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politics i am the president, but i am also a dad joe biden, in the complicated pander and chief candidates for reelection and concern father as his son sits inside of delaware courtroom facing criminal charges brought by it biden, justice department plus file and error. donald trump's conviction on criminal charges rallies republicans to his side while democrats are divided on this question, is branding trump with a convicted felon label, help or hurt their chances at stopping has returned to the white house and capitol hill flash at this hour, republicans are grilling dr. anthony fauci on his tough and controversial decisions during the covid pandemic. >> i'm dana bash so let's go behind the headlines and inside politics we start right now. we
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are going to go right up to capitol hill and we're going to get into that hearing. marjorie taylor greene is questioning dr. anthony. >> good okay. we'll we'll take that as a you don't know what you represent. this as director of the nih, you did sign off on these so-called scientific experiments. and as a dog lover, i want to tell you this is disgusting and evil. what you signed off on, and these experiments that happened to be goals, paid for by the american taxpayer. and i want you to know americans don't pay their taxes for animals to be tortured like this. so the type of science that you are representing mr. fauci is important and it needs to stop mr. fauci, you also represent the type of science that you where you confess that you made up the covid rules, including which six feet social distancing and masking of
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children. >> i never said i made anything else. you admitted that you made up you might say, well, i made it up. >> there. were you saying was fake news, mr. now, let's say i made anything up. >> what did you say? i said that it is not based in science and adjust appeared, but this is science what is dogs have to do with anything that we're talking about today is your scientific experiments. >> this is what she signed off on, but you also told the american people they had to distance by six feet. they had to wear mask but let's also talk a little bit further about the type of science that you represent nih scientists made $710 million in royalties from jug, drug makers. >> a fact that been hidden. >> let's talk about the fact about is it right for scientists and doctors getting paid by the american people government taxpayer paychecks to get patents where they're paid millions and hundreds of millions of dollars and royalty
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fees especially when the nih and these government agencies must powerful agencies he's in our country are recommending medical suggestions and advice and making up guidelines like six feet, distancing and masking of children. do you think that's appropriate to the american people deserve to be abused like that, mr. fauci, because you're not doctor, your mr. fauci and my few minutes no, i don't need your answer. i want to talk about this right here mr. chairman. >> objection objection. >> i reclaim my time. i reclaim my time. >> mr. rafah, lady wearing the border end mr. chairman of order, just in terms of the rules of decorum, are we allowed to deny that a doctor is a doctor just because we don't want him to be a doctor yes because in my time that man does not deserve to have a license is a matter of fact, it should be revoked and he belongs in suspend the gentlelady should recognize the
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doctor as a doctor okay. >> we're going to come out and talk for a minute with our panel here specifically with manu raju. and we have a lot to fact-check. we're gonna get to that in a second. >> manu. >> this is something that republicans who are in charge of the house this is sort of one of their top issue. >> and he is one of, if not the top bogeyman separate and apart from the president of the united states. and now they have the gavel. and even though anthony fauci is retired, they do have the ability to call him before congress, which is what is happening. i should say, the dog picture and some of the other things that she was pointing to we will look into, but what are your thoughts? you talk to these republicans all the time of dr. are on the way in and she said a lot of this is very similar things and she went on to call him a mass murderer or even going going as
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far and as extreme that kind of rhetoric, blaming him for the pandemic and every, all the millions of deaths and people who are ill throughout the course of it. of course, the question is, how much of that is actually true? a lot of it is republicans running with very little and trying to cast anthony fauci blaming him for everything that essentially went wrong. you're right. he is essentially been the boogie man all along. these hearings are essentially what they are, is the address right against a member of congress, a chance to rail about whatever subject they want a real about. not really give the witness a chance to respond. they're calling him mr. not calling a doctor, not giving fauci any opportunity to respond. we'll see how much more he does as the democrats come. there'll be an opportunity for the democrats to robot. what marjorie taylor greene has to say i'm going to just away. >> yes. and we're going to we're going to come to that as soon as that happens every is that happening now, ben okay
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okay. and as we wait for that to change, we're also hoping to get lauren fox, who's a reporter covering this up there you hear a lot. kristin from the trump campaign and from republicans in general about dr. anthony fauci he was in charge of the covid response when donald trump was president, donald trump put him there. i mean, mike pence was the was in charge of the task force, but he listened to anthony fauci particularly at the beginning. yeah. i mean, i think by the end it was clear that there was a rift between them, but donald trump is continue to blame everything that went wrong with the pandemic response on anthony fauci. >> he has become a villain, as you said, and four indictments and a conviction ago before all of this, donald trump was planning on running really with fauci being the boogie man because they were more concerned about the covid response, particularly during the republic i can primary when
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desantis was saying he kept the state open and donald trump closed it we know that donald trump is still asked about this all the time. he was asked about an interview with meghan kelly. do you regret listening to anthony fauci? do you regret giving him an award, a metal he said, i don't know who gave him that. what was the presidential medal? so he really came from the white house. i'm gonna go up to capitol hill now, lauren fox is with us. lauren, you have been listening to the whole hearing so far? and there has been a lot of back-and-forth about a lot of different things separate and apart from what we just heard briefly from marjorie taylor greene give us a more fulsome some sense of what is happening in that hearing room. >> yeah. >> i mean, the room is really tense. i was in and out of that hearing room over the course of the last several hours. and obviously the test steam one, you just heard from marjorie taylor greene really gets at that tension in the room, but it's not just her who's questioning doctor found cheese time at nih has legacy at nih.
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his time and management of the pandemic specifically getting the vaccine from the beginning to the end we could get shots and arms just within about a year's time, almost every single democrat who talks to dr. fauci before they begin their questioning. thanks him for his time and whose service meanwhile, you have republicans really questioning every decision he was making during what we should point out was a very chaotic and uncertain time when the pandemic no began and that is everything for masking guidelines to distancing guidelines. and you heard dr. fauci outlining it was not ultimately his decision to decide that six feet was the proper distance. he said that that was a decision that was made by the cdc republicans questioning why he wasn't publicly questioning decisions from the cdc. and i think it is just important and democrats have been pointing this out as well to lay out the fact that at the time in 2020, there was a lot that was unknown about the coronavirus pandemic. there
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still is some questions about the origins of this pandemic, and that is another area where republicans are going after dr fauci. meanwhile, democrats arguing that it is irresponsible to say that dr. fauci isn't any way responsible for the origins of this virus and this pandemic all right, and i'm just getting a text from somebody who was working on these issues inside the administration, the trump administration reminding me that it was dr. burke's deborah burks, who was in charge the doctors like anthony fauci were under her leadership life for everybody. covid is kind of kind of a blur, but incredibly important. lauren, thank you. please keep us up to speed on what's happening in that hearing room. we do now want to go up to delaware where it is a historic day. president biden's son, hunter, is in a federal courthouse, joined by the woman he is called moms since he was a little boy, the first lady of the united states, jill biden today, jury selection is beginning setting
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in motion a courtroom drama that will captivate republicans and make life harder for democrats. hunter biden is facing gun charges, charges brought by his father's justice department the president is not there, but he did release a statement. mine does straddle the line between his oath of office and promised to stay out of justice department business and his duty as a father. he said, quote, i am the president by him, but i am also a dad. he wrote jill and i love our sun and we are so proud of the man he is today. hunters zillions in the face of adversity and the strength he has brought to his recovery or inspiring to us as the president, i don't and won't comment on pending federal cases. but as a dad, i have boundless love for my son, confidence in him and respect for his strength when you get right to cnn's evan perez, who is outside the court where jury selection is underway. evan, what can you tell us well, then i worry about three-and-a-half hours into this jury selection some processor about 250
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prospective jurors who are in the building and we already seeing a lot of the themes that will be at the center of this trial already showing in the questions that jurors are facing and in some of their answers, the issues of addiction and recovery that you just mentioned, and of course, gun rights there was a moment, a short while ago where hunter biden's lawyers, abby, abby low and stickler, signaled that he wanted to strike a juror move a juror from the pool from consideration because he said that he believes donald trump, but not democrats or victims political prosecution. >> he is a retired wilmington police officer. he brought up donald trump's new york trial. he brought up the trump russia investing the asian and said he believes that prosecutors, as a result of this, he believes prosecutors pursue some cases for political reasons. we also heard from a member of
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potential juror who told the judge about her parents suffering, struggling with alcoholism and trying to get clean and she said she believed it would be easier for her to adjudicate a case like this because she understands those issued. another man whose voice broke because he talked about family members struggling with this issue down evan, thank you so much. really appreciate your reporting and my panel is here with me, including kevin lip tech, who covers the white house for us and kevin, i just want to read for our viewers part of the story that you wrote this morning, you wrote for the president, the legal problems facing his son had been reason to pull him close rather than push him away. joe biden has paid a little mind to some of his allies who questioned the approach instead, his concern for his son's well-being surpasses any potential political fallout. >> adviser said in some cases, you could look at that and say, oh, that's spin. >> in this case, it is it seems
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to be by all accounts exactly what is happening. yeah. and i think the reason for that is this case centers so much on such a painful moment in the biden family we history. it was around the time that beau biden has passed away. it tells with the darkest issues of addiction that we're really grappling that family was grappling with at the moment. and what you've seen, the biden family do really over the last several days that we've notice very specifically is hold hunter biden very closely, for example, they were at church together over the weekend president biden and his son went on a bike ride in rehoboth. really, there is no attempt to put any distance between themselves and, you know, when you talk to people president biden is sort of consumed by this. he has been consumed by this over the last several years, really with a concern for his son's well-being. they talk almost every day either on the phone or by text. this is a very, very close relationship, and i think for president biden certainly he is going to
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continue his job as president, for example, he's going overseas end of this week. but as a father, this is something he's paying very close attention to. heat, isn't wilmington today? he's spending the day there and certainly i think as a family there watching this very close and just as or maybe state the obvious when you say hold i'm close and other members are holding him close he he's an addict and he's he's recovered. >> he is recovering but this is something that is quite typical if you know, anybody who has people who are in recovery and their family making sure that you are in close contact with them, particularly under timess times of stress is really key and i should remind, our viewers that this is a trial that wasn't supposed to happen because there was a plea deal. and the deal fell apart for lots of reasons. now, you see him in the court there in wilmington at the beginning of a long process. >> yeah. and normally a trial like this with people were not
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charged necessarily with this and this in cases like this, unless they use the gun in a crime or things of that nature. >> so this is also unusual in that case and that there are some who would say that if hunter biden was not the son of a president, he would not be going to trial right now but, you know, i think that over these past couple of weeks we have seen that no one is above the law with this state law or federal law. and even though this is a political show, i do think this is really, it is something we're going to talk about is worthy of being discussed, but it seems like by all accounts, biden, this is his son and so regardless of the political implications, he seems to be thinking of this. this is my son. this is who i love, and i'm going to stand beside them and not really think about the political implications of it. >> and then i talked to a bunch of democrats this morning about whether they've concerned about the prospects of a conviction, whether have an impact on joe biden and they
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are making the case that this is hunter biden. he's not running for president desert. jamie raskin told me he said hundred button is not running for president donald trump is running for president. he said that they're trying to make a distinction that they respect the judicial process, they respect the judicial system. it does come down to an conviction and they're not going to necessarily real on the judge, real and everything the way that we have seen donald trump and republicans do on that side. so we'll see how much voters actually give them credit or non-credit for, and how they handle this. >> yeah. all right. everybody standby up next the aftermath, the political world is still taking stock of donald trump's felony convictions with republicans unsurprisingly rushing to his corner, democratic trying to find their political footing on how to react. we're going to explain after a quick break the increase in wildfire there's is exponential unpredictable, uncontrollable with overwhelming consequences. >> the need to do something is urgent with birth we have
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use them this fathers de, given the gift that's built for dad right now, save $20 on the ms 162 gas-powered chainsaw real still i learned thoughts on capitol hill and the jury has spoken, donald trump is a convicted felon. >> now, it's the voters turned to decide whether that matters. cnn's haryana and joins me now from the magic wall for a closer look. on how they are reacting in the polls we have seen so far, harry yeah, i think there was a question of whether or not we would see any real change in the horse race. we haven't yet. all right. so this is trump versus biden margin pre newark, new york conviction todd, where are we now? biden up by two. but again, that is well within the margin of error. there is no
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clear leader that's what i want you to take away from this very minimal movement. now we'll see what happens if this is replicated across polling, if it is, well, a two-point move might be statistically significant, but at this particular point, not we had a close race before the conviction after the conviction, we have a close right now. why would it be that we haven't seen that much movement? well, part of it has to do with the fact that this is basically what americans thought should happen and in fact did happen. all right, trump's new york hush money case before the verdict, 56% of americans thought that trump he was guilty. >> now after the verdict, 57%, which looks an awful bit like that, 56% said that they think the jury made the right verdict. >> so basically no real shift in this, no one who is convinced that wasn't convinced before on either side of the aisle. now, i think there's this real question now is whether or not trump's messaging got shortest true that this is quote unquote a witch-hunt against donald trump to try and keep him from the white house. well, trump's
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messaging isn't really necessarily getting through without outside of his own base. so new york hush money case was mainly about enforcing laws fairly to uphold the rule of law that is the majority anterior, 52%, although a pretty high hi percentage, 46% believed that these charges in this case was politically motivated to hurt donald trump. but again, the majority position here was that this case and the outcome was about enforcing laws to fairly uphold the rule of law. of course, there is a big political split on this. all right, the new york hush money case was mainly a politically motivated attempt to hurt trump. look at this large percentage of republicans. my goodness, gracious 87% believed that that was so trump has certainly locked down his base. that's a big reason why he was able to raise all of that money. but the fact is independence and democrats don't bite independence 44% believed that in fact, the new york hush money case was mainly a political, politically motivated attempt to hurt trump. and of course, very few
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democrats, just 9% believe that was the case, dana. so overall, not a lot of movement, basically what we expect it to happen, and the american public continues on in this campaign that just seems to keep going and going and going, not necessarily luck having their choices for president, but having to deal with it nonetheless. >> harry, thank you so much always good to see you. >> thank you appreciate it. and let's talk about this more with our panel you heard him say at the end there that voters aren't necessarily loving their choices. well, let's look at another poll from abc among, and by what they call double-haters. so people who just don't like either and the question is, was the verdict correct? 65% trump should end his campaign 67% what does that tell us? mano? >> i think this is uncertain, you know, i think that this still needs to get fully into the public consciousness. is this an issue that voters will
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actually cat howell castle about and november? i think that some of those polling, even if the voters to say, i'm not going to vote for a convicted felon maybe they will end up voting for a convicted felon, or maybe some of the voters who say it doesn't matter. maybe will matter come november. so i just this is such an unprecedented situation that is i think the polls are not fully capturing. there's because we've never seen anything like this before. what is the sentencing? what does the messaging or the convention? well, any of the other issues verdict is going to trial. all huge questions. >> i know you have some new reporting, kristen on what the trump campaign is thinking and doing and the candidate himself so well, that's about sentencing in particular. >> so we can talk about that one second. i do just want to add to what monitors eggs. i completely agree with this. i don't think anyone has any idea what's going to happen. i think even if you talk to donald trump's advisers who are telling you how much money that donald trump is making. and that $58 million that was just in small-dollar donations haven't even released the soft money numbers that's going to his various map because you're talking about that. let's just put that up quickly. this is
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the trump campaign and rnc fundraising together $70 million. and this is an i should say, this is according to lara trump, who even seen the fec, right? we haven't seen the fec reports. >> we won't see get them for some time, but generally speaking, they don't lie about these numbers because it's more of a story if they do lie about the numbers, then then if they say 70 million now, let's see it. it's $70 million that is just coming from winred. or their online digital donations. so they're talking about this while dollar donations. some of them, they've said at one point, which is something that i don't believe we actually can ever verify, but they say one-fourth is new donors. >> but what they haven't given us as the larger soft money numbers which is going to come from the ceo schwarzman, the rules yes, we're talking about giant checks that are being written millions of dollars. >> we know he went to dinner with wall street ceos and be big time donors everyday loss. so you, including the night of his conviction. >> but again, despite the fact that they're rah rah about the numbers, they have absolutely no idea what this does. >> the voters and they will tell that to you. >> i mean, sentencing. so when it talks about sentencing,
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donald trump has said that he doesn't care if he goes to jail, that he would be portrayed as the white nelson mandela. now, anyone who knows donald trump knows the donald trump might say that he wants to be the white nelson mandela, but he doesn't want actually do any of the things that nelson mandela did. and donald trump himself is a germaphobe. >> the idea of him going to jail at all, he wouldn't even use the restroom when he was in court all day long because it was a one communal restroom because he thought it was disgusting. >> so serious, you got there for user the first day he walked in and he went and then he defines the restroom. >> now, can i say that every single day there hasn't i don't know oh, i don't want to say this conversation took a turn point in the dermal phobia is not somebody that we know anytime in prison. okay. let's look at the other side of the aisle. yes. and democrats and the fact that they are trying to figure you're up particularly based on how we started this conversation, that it's really unknown if trump being a convicted felon will
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move the needle or not, how much to sort of lean into that. let's listen to some of the democrats on that i think the president needs to campaign on his record and what he's delivered for the american people. >> i think people see it. they feel it and in their heart, dave, internalize it so you don't have to go out and beat the drum on that. >> i think that's gonna be a decision on. the president in his campaign team, but i for 1:00 a.m. have no quorums bringing up the fact that that a jury of his peers found him guilty you might notice that gentlemen talking to the members is the same way the distinguished gentleman from chicago the democrats are dealing with the fact that this is unprecedented. they of course they're going to be trying to run on the record, but what what what joe biden wants to do is he wants to make this a referendum, not on his record, but on trump. and so the more that you can focus on
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trump, and the more that you can focus on what. what people don't like about trump, which is the drama, the accusations of corruption, things of that nature like that. the hope is that that could maybe wake up some of the biden's base, which is very sleepy right now, you know, sleep job, then his basis sleepy, they're not there not activated. and so it's like, is this something that could activate them? i think there's a realization that they're not going to be able to win just by saying that trump is a felon. that's not gonna be enough. i think they realized that real quick before we got to where striking the reaction you've got how mixed it? >> yeah, really was. there's some democrats said to me, could you imagine if the shoes on the other foot, if it was joe biden who had been convicted and what donald trump would be zing about joe biden. he would be banging the drum, going after it all the time, but then some say could be a backlash given how divided this electrode is. and then, but this may not be the driving issue. remember, economic issues you need to take head
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on. and so it seems that the biden campaign is still trying to figure out this messaging to going forward, okay. >> everybody sandbar because we have our resonant fact checker, daniel dale, who is going to bring us a lot of important and interesting information. don't go anywhere first lady, the american here, because i'm afraid of the trunk like this is your light play my life. the great lillian harb streaming exclusively on mac, we have a garage door that doesn't lift. >> so i went on. angie took me just a handful of minutes in there. >> as he will knowledgeable, they did high-quality work. >> they wanted us to be happy with the work done as well. it is a beautiful ghraieb. >> get started today at angie.com kennedy want okay.
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arlette saenz at the white house. and this is cnn right now, dr. anthony fauci finds himself back on capitol hill. >> hill facing some of his fiercest antagonist members a
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republican-led house panel, who are accusing him of helping set off the worst pandemic and a century, not everything that they are saying is true. i want to bring in cnn medical analysts, dr. jonathan reiner in his scrubs. thank you. i know you're actually going to do surgery very shortly. the first thing i want to get at with you is what happened live on our air at the beginning of this program, which is marjorie taylor greene alleging that dr. fauci personally approved funding for experiments that tortured dogs does that fit in with what you know about how they nih funds experiments no, actually, the care and handling of animals is something that is very strictly regulated by nih and also by fda. anyone who worked at nih for anyone who works oh, with a grant sponsored by nih has to abide
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by very stringent rules and regulations that cover the humane handling of animals. so that makes zero sense and she also alleged that fauci admitted that he did quote, makeup, covid rules your response? yeah. well well you know, ever since covid was a brand new novel, virus everything that was done was had to be created from scratch and at the beginning of the pandemic, as we're learning that the virus was not just transmitted by aerosol droplets, but also basically floating in the air we had to figure out how to try and prevent transmission. so yes, we had to make up rules for masking. we had to invent ideas for how to separate people to prevent the transfer mission of this highly transmissible virus. so yes, everything was,
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quote made up, but only in the sort of with best of intentions in real time thank you so much for coming on quickly. >> in fact, checking your busy man, you are a doctor, anthony fauci is a doctor and i should say that she was also on our error saying that she was going to call him mr. fauci, and it was the republican chairman of the committee who reprimanded her saying that she needs to be respectful and i know quickly you have a feeling on that too. >> that's that's really funny because i grew up and so many thousands of positions around the world grew up with the textbook of internal medicine that was literally written by anthony fauci. so not only is he a doctor, he's actually written the book okay dr. >> jonathan ryder. thank you so much appreciate it. good luck in your surgery thanks for jumping on. my pleasure. thank you. >> coming up, we'll voters care about donald trump's
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>> i want to bring in republican strategist, sarah longwell. she's the publisher of the bulwark host of the focus group podcast and executive director of the republican accountability project. in addition to all of those jobs, sarah, you have a lot of jobs you were also a never-trumper. so i have to ask were you on the phone with tim scott, anyone you know in the never trump world getting on the bandwagon for trump yeah, i don't know who he's talking to. i don't think there are a whole lot of never-trumper is i mean, it is in the name when we say never, we mean never because donald trump has been on fit from the beginning. >> but look i don't know who he's talking to you, but i will say for me, i do focus groups all the time and i did want on friday with two times trump voters, many of whom rate trump is doing a very bad job. this is a specific category of voter who's they voted for trump because they're republicans, but they do not like it. they do not want to vote for him
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again, in that group of nine voters, five of them said that this made them less likely to vote for him. and in fact the majority of the group was going to go biden so i just i think that republicans are circling the wagons. >> they know that being a convicted felon will have an effect on marginal swing voters. >> and so they're doing their best to build a narrative that this is good for trout, sorry, i just sometimes people i'm sorry to interrupt. i just want to play for our viewers some of the focus group that you're talking about nothing's move in the middle. >> middle for me, trump is unfit for office, and so i've got the trial highly politicized, but in the hands of the jury, both sides had the chance to present their case. and that's ultimately how it should have been done. >> i don't believe i would stand up in a sale bomb over $60 when when they put me all over the news for exactly what we saw on the news yesterday so
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i'm here for i don't know what i'm going today so based on that and the broader discussions that you have regularly with these voters, the swing voters do you think that this verdict? >> could have an impact in swing states yeah. >> look, i have always believed that trump's committed base is anything like this. trump getting convicted. it's going to make them want to vote for trump harder, but they still only have their one vote. it is these marginal swing voters in swing states that are going to be critical and that are going to matter and a lot of these voters are what we call a double-haters are doubled doubters or a pox on both their houses. they don't like biden and they don't like trump. >> but for a lot of them, things like the conviction as well as trump just coming back into focus, turns this election from a referendum on biden to them. >> remember i'm boring why they disliked trump so much in the first place. why many of
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them voted for biden, or why they don't want to vote for trump. and so this conviction is raising the salience of trump's on fitness. and i do absolutely think it'll have some effect as long as democrats are capable of prosecuting this case against trump. you got it, can't you can't be afraid to tell people that this man is a convicted felon and unfit to be president. okay. so you've kind of answered my question, but i'll ask it a different way and my question is, how much democrats should be talking about it? do you believe based on the conversations that you've had with these voters, it should be the candidate himself, the president of the united states, joe biden, prosecuting the case to use your words, or should it he leave it to his surrogates? >> well, look, i think that biden should do it himself. i know that there's a lot of hand-wringing about this, but i don't think anybody should shot. and i'll just put it this way. i come from the republican side. if this cases were reversed and this was a republic a republican going after democrats, they would not hesitate, no, they would not hesitate to prosecute this
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case. but hello biden does need more aggressive surrogates. joe biden is not going to be his best messenger. there are a lot of democrats that should be out there going on offense and it's time for democrats to really occupy an offense posture on these things sarah longwell, always good to see you come back soon. thank you. >> up next, sorting fact from fiction, republicans have a lot to say and they're rushed to defend their candidate after his felony convictions. what's true? >> what's not? >> we'll tell you in minutes the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> the pressure and the former president, one stage to moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn. and streaming unmanned lumina whitening strips know brock's, i know pain. i can use them every day if i want. what i want drink what i want, probably aluminium strip and l0 my smile is back on point easy it was structured
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daniel dale to break down some of the claims republicans are making about the trump hush money trial, daniel. thank you so much for being here. i want to start with a couple of things that lara trump told kasie hunt yesterday on state of the union he donated this judge to the biden campaign. his daughter raises money for the opposition for debbie asked you about the jury's specifically should james i'm not i'm not done. you had a judge who told the jury that they did not have to be unanimous in their decision? >> go for it. >> there's a mix of true and false there, so it is true. the judge donated to present biden's campaign, although it's important to note, it was $15 donation. it is true the judge has a daughter who was the democratic political consultant. i have not found evidence that the judge's wife works for ag james, a woman that right-wing media purports to be the judge's wife used to work for the state ag's office not sure if it's actually his wife, regardless, does not currently work for the state ag. and then this claim, more importantly, i think that the
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judge did not require jury unanimity is just not true. the jury unanimously agreed was asked unanimously agree that trump falsified business records. unanimously agreed that he did so with the intent to commit another crime which had to be unanimously agreed to be a violation of state election law. what the judge said they did not need to be unanimous on was the so-called unlawful means by which he intended to violate that election law. so there was a non unanimous component, but the key parts of that verdict had to be unanimous. >> and he the judge went through each individual juror as after the foreman delivered the verdict, and they all agree that they support all of the verdict it's on all 34. another claim is that donald trump can ask the supreme court to step in he's made that claim. apparently, others, even the house speaker, is that even possible? this is a state issue. >> it would be wildly unprecedented because this is a state issue. i'm loath to offer a definitive fact check
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on what the supreme court court may do it to the supreme court. they make their own decisions, but the supreme court simply does not intervene in state criminal sentencing matters. it just does not happen. okay. >> another thing that we're hearing over and over from trump and his allies is that the judge shouldn't have scheduled his sentencing to be on july 11 because it's four days before the republican convention begins. >> should they be surprised by this? >> they should not because you can go look at the transcript of what what happened in court. trump's lawyers asked for a sentencing hearing in mid to late july. that is right. when the republican convention is that they said, oh, we have some commitments in fairness in the transcript, there are some examples, so they said, look, we have obligations in june because we have this other trump criminal case in florida, the documents case. so could you please schedule it mid to late july? bass said nothing about that convention when they made that requested the judge and so now the question is whether or not donald trump is going to end his lawyers are
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going to push to have a change now that they realized that this is an issue, although you could also argue that politically, if he thinks that this is such a boon maybe he'll keep it perhaps it could go either way for sure. >> yeah. all right. daniel, thank you so much. thank you. >> great to see you. appreciate it and thank you for joining inside politics attacks. cnn, news central starts after the break do. 19th, cnn celebrates juneteenth, which special performance is by john legend, had he lewbel, smokey robinson. >> everyone should celebrated juneteenth celebration he didn't freedom and legacy. wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn skin craving next level hydration, neutrogena hydro boost, water cream, a vital boost of nine times more hydration that's clinically proven to boost your skin's barrier for quenched, dewy skin. that's full of life.
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