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next. and amanda knox is back in italy more than a decade after having her murder conviction overturn. this time for a slander trial we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central right now, hunter biden's federal gun trial is on a break for lunch, but shortly before court what adjourn? >> one of hunter biden's former girlfriends took the stand as the prosecution's third witness. she's been testifying about how she met janiot, a gentleman's club where she worked in 2017 and now he would smoke, crack almost constantly in private later in their relationship when they were together, she says before her testimony, hunter biden's ex-wife, kathleen buhle, took the stand. prosecutors using fuels testimony to try to help prove that hunter biden was using illegal drugs when he purchased a gun in 2018? she
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described how she found drugs and drug paraphernalia in hunter biden's car on multiple occasions including the year that he bought the gun. she also talked about how she would check his car for drugs before their daughters use the car. cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez is outside of court in delaware. evan, what's the latest? >> but we're on a break right now. briana, but the two witnesses certainly have the jurors attention. our team in there tells us that the jurors paying very close attention as a herd to testimony from caffeine v0 first, his ex-wife, she really didn't spend that much time on the stand or her relationship with hunter biden ended before this episode before he bought this gun in october of 20 he 18. >> and then after she took the stand, we've been hearing from zoe casten, who is going to continue her testimony after the lunch break. >> now the point that prosecution the prosecution is
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using these two women's testimonies to drive home. the point that hunter biden was a regular user all drugs that he was struggling with addiction during the period that he bought this firearm that he should have known that he did not qualify to buy this firearm? since against obviously for him to buy this gun was against the law for on the part of the fence they're trying to sow some doubt she is someone who saw him using drugs, saw there the jury saw pictures of him in the bathtub, a width what appeared to be a crack pipe that's what she said. it was and what the job of abbe lowell for him to do here is to have jurors have at least a little bit of doubt that during that day, that day when he bought the gun, that he was not using drugs or that the prosecution doesn't have any
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proof that he was using drugs, that particular day. boris briana evan perez live from outside the courthouse in wilmington, delaware thinking so much, let's dig deeper now what cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, elliot williams, eliot, thanks so much for being with us how do you see this case shaping out? >> so for as prosecutors are using portions of hunters memoir, just these giant chunks that the jury is listening to outline their case. >> it's the defendant's own words in this particular statute among criminal statutes, broadly, is not that complicated. prosecutors simply have to prove number one individual the defendant possessed a firearm and that he was addicted to or using drugs two things. it's not like donald trump's trial that was far more complex. now here's the thing, this whole and the language is who is an unlawful user of or addicted to. now, that's kind of vague, doesn't say you gotta be using on the day you bought it or possessed it, doesn't say when, how
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long. and i think the defense is poking holes in that a little bit, saying, well, certainly he struggled with addiction and nobody disputes that. but the prosecution can't establish clearly that at the time he procured this weapon, which only had for about ten days these are 11 days that he was addicted. >> so how and that's really what it comes down to. and i'm not sure the law is clear on this how close in time to the actual date of the gun purchase do prosecutors need to convince the jury that hunter biden was actually using drugs? >> they have to convince the jury until the jury's convinced i mean, that's it, briana. it's so open-ended and this is two weeks. why we could make used their good sense. i mean, what's the what's the measure they do i mean, i think prosecutors will seek to say that both before and after the possession of this firearm, he acknowledged to addiction, but even that's kinda vague. for the, reasonable doubt standard, which we know is very, very high, getting over that can be tough as part of his defense.
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>> the other thing that abbe lowell is trying to do is argue that he knowingly had to be deceptive on that forum. >> that keyword knowingly doing a lot of work for the defense. >> so when we talk about knowingly, willfully, these are things called mental intent if you want to be fancy at cocktail parties, say mens rea is the latin term, and prosecutors always have to establish what the mental state of the defendant was. >> now here, the law says knowingly possess so the question is, well, he thought this is the argument for the defense. he thought he was no longer addicted or he thought he wasn't using any more therefore, he was not knowingly possessing a firearm unlawfully. now that sort of strains logic a little bit, but this isn't about proving whether something did or didn't happen. it's about poking holes and the government's case. and it could be a successful way to do that. that's what defense attorneys and good defense attorneys do and abbe lowell has been doing this a very long time. >> there's a lot of talk about the use of cash to pay for things and prosecutors are trying to establish that cash
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withdrawals are tantamount to purchasing drugs. the defense is making the case that hunter biden didn't have a credit card he was using cash for other things, including to pay if a rehab. what does that do to the prosecution's argument? i think both cash helps in hertz both sides. >> now, certainly this is a across different forms of prosecution. you make an argument that you use cash when you're trying to hide your tracks. it's also tough for for prosecutor just because you can't track cash in the same way if somebody is writing checks are having backstage or wires or venmo, even there's a record of it, cash is just harder to track, but certainly there's it's well established in the law that prosecutors often point to the use of cash as a means of concealing misconduct part of this it's a bit heavy and emotional and personal. >> you're having people that you were close to in your life testify about things that i'm sure hundred biden regrets and certainly doesn't want out publicly, but i'm curious about how you think the jury absorbs what's being said in court. we know that one juror was
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actually crying during opening statements and there are several jurors that have acknowledged that through family, they've had experience with folks that have struggled through substance abuse. how does that play with the jury? >> let's go back to the very first thing i said, which is that these cases are very straightforward to prove. you've got approved see with things the prosecution's job is very easy with one caveat, they have to not go too far. and at the prosecutors are seen as having vilified or targeted or abused, or pushed on people who are addicted to or seemed to be callous or not caring about people who struggled with addiction as millions of americans do, and probably people on the jury and their families. that's the kind of thing that can turn off a jury when a case is so sensitive like this. and so it's really on the prosecution to sort of step up to the line, put all improve their case, but without going too far so interested in people who have this experience, maybe with family members, they may also think accountability is a very important part of the process. >> it's really interesting to know where this is going. in a fall, elliott. thank you so much for that. we appreciate it. >> president biden is in
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france. he is preparing for tomorrow's commemoration of d-day thursday, marking 80 years since allied forces descended on normandy which was of course a major turning point during the world war ii. and as biden remembers, the past, there's a new report out yeah, wall street journal article is raising questions about how biden will handle a potential second term. >> it calls into question the mental acuity of the 81-year-old president behind what is the white house saying in response to this piece wellbore some briana, first of all, the wall street journal does say that it spoke with some 45 people over the course of several months including republicans, democrats administration, officials, who met with biden or briefed on some of the meetings that he participated in. >> and that some of those people said that the president did themes lower, less sharp, and that he was essentially
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starting to show his age. he is of course, 81-years-old. he is the oldest person to serve as president. and importantly, the story did say that most of the people who were critical of the president's age and acuity did happen to be republicans. now, as you said, the white house and allies of the president in the in the story. and since the publication of the story have been really forcefully pushing back on the story. one person that was quoted in the story that clearly annoyed the white house is kevin mccarthy, the former house speaker, who of course spent a ton of time behind closed doors with the president negotiating on a number of different things. he said in the dory that the president rambled always have to use cards. he's not the same person as when he used to be vice president. and the white house is response to this it's has basically been that is bs because this is the same person, kevin mccarthy, who at the time publicly praise the president for being mentally sharp. now, i think the bigger picture, pushback for the white
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house on this story has basically been that this represents republicans really trying to use the age issue to politically criticize the president as not being all there. they also pushed back on the reporters for downplaying some of the more positive stories that were shared by democrats in the course of the reporting. but look, there's no question that the issue of age of mental acuity are really sensitive issues for the biden white house and the campaign. and i thought there was a really telling moment from this story where it said that several democrats shared with the white house either a recording of an interview or details about what was asked by the reporters and some of those lawmakers spoke to the journal a second time. once again, emphasized biden strengths and we have congressman gregory meeks, new york democrat, telling the journal, they said that i should give you a call back. they being the white house. now the white house knows that the president is all ties and under elderly man, nobody is denying that but i
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think observers, including reporters who cover the president day-to-day, we do see moments where the president will slip up at times mixing up people, mixing up places where he does seem at moments, at less energetic or less focus. but i think it is all the more sensitive for this white house because he also has an opponent who is also an elderly man, who is very eager to really seize on any one of those moments where the president appears to be slipping the article does outline instances of former president trump also having these verbal slips and confusing moments while out on the campaign we should note that soon we're actually going to speak to one of the authors of this piece of stay tuned for that mj lee live at the white house for us. thanks so much. i'm john. >> so president biden's new executive action targeting migrants who cross the border relief philly is now an effect we're going to take you to the southern border to get reaction on what the impact of these restrictions on plus top biden administration officials
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you want to laugh can ban eric. i want to be world heavyweight champion and be with my family the iron claw, now streaming exclusively on macs just hours after president biden's new asylum restrictions went into effect. we're learning that some cities along the southern border are already turning away migrants the sweeping new policy severely limits the number of migrants who illegally crossed the us-mexico border from seeking asylum. >> this measure, which can be turned on and off kicks in once the number of daily encounters reaches a certain threshold on average, that number 25 let's turn now to cnn's rosa flores, who is live along the border he's in hidalgo, texas. rosa, what impacts are you seeing there the easiest way for me to explain it imagine border security on a rocket ship. >> and this is the federal government using a lot of the processes that are already has
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barring asylum and expedites those processes, let me set the scene for you. what do you see behind me is the international bridge here and you go texas. this crossing goes into mexico and you can see that the ports of entry or not impacted. you can see the free flow of cars here. this does not impact trade or commerce. this impacts the elite eagle entry by migrants were entering between ports of entry. and here's what happened crosses the border if they do not express those agents, though, migrants are very swiftly returned. >> what does that look like? we have video of what it could look like. take a look because what you see here is a wide government boss that normally transports migrants. you see that bus go into the port of entry that you see behind me and then you see federal agents esquire, migrants back to mexico. that little walkway, that road that you see is the way back into mexico now what
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you're seeing there is a slip return. those migrants are being returned to mexico, whether through either expedited removal or voluntary return. now this fear briana and boris and this is important than that migrant gets a credible your interview, whether it happens at custom, customs, and border protection. and i'm told i need to wrap back to you guys. >> yeah. sorry. sorry. rosa, we're having some problems with your mic and obviously you have some really important information to share with us. so we're going to try to get that fixed so that we can get that from you let's turn now though to tension in the middle east, top biden administration officials are traveling to the region this week to work on the potential deal for a permanent ceasefire and release of hostages between israel and hamas. >> all of this is happening. is there a signals the israel-hamas war could expand beyond gaza? and into lebanon's border with israel. the area there has experienced wildfires ignited by
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cross-border attacks. now a high-level official and israel defense forces and the israel defense forces is saying the military is ready to attack targets in the north. and today, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, he's visiting a city right by the border cnn's jeremy diamond is in jerusalem forests. so jeremy, how would you say that how close would you say that israel is to launching another major offensive well bores it's really hard to tell at this point what we've been witnessing over the course of the last eight months, of course, is these continued cross-border exchanges of fire between hezbollah and israel. >> and at this moment, there's no question that there has been an uptick in those strikes from both sides in terms of the rockets coming from hezbollah towards northern israel as well as the attacks from the israeli military in lebanon. and recently over the last couple of days, something else has really brought attention to all of this. and that is the increase his in the wild fires that we have been witnessing
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over the last couple of days that have really brought national attention in israel to the situation in the northern border where at least 60,000 israeli residents our currently displaced and today hey, the israeli prime minister visiting that area where thousands of acres were burned by these wildfires resulting from the rockets being fired up by hezbollah. he said that israel is quote, prepared for very intensive action in the north one way or another, we will restore security to the north we know that today as well. he's really military increasing the cap of people that he can call up for reserve duty he from 300,000 to 350,000 questions about whether or not that may be preparations for a northern a war between israel and hezbollah there's no question that there is enormous pressure on this government to get those residents back to their homes in northern israel. and israel has said that it will accomplish that one way or another, whether through diplomacy or through war, or let's turn now to the ceasefire plan. jeremy, between israel and hamas. the president
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is dispatching some of his top officials to keep negotiations going. what are the chances? says that this bears some fruit yeah, cia director bill burns is in the region once again and we know that he often comes to the region necessarily just when they have a potential breakthrough ahead. >> but certainly at moments of importance in these negotiations and the cia director is indeed currently in doha, qatar meeting with the here of qatar, as well as the prime minister of that country who have been speaking intensively in recent days with a hamas officials and bill burns is there to get debriefed on those conversations and to see whether or not this latest israeli proposal that is on the table for a potential ceasefire and hostage negotiation can indeed move forward. we've heard, of course, the israeli prime minister in recent days emphasizing that this proposal will not lead to an end to the war unless hamas is first destroyed. and that point of emphasis has certainly raised concerns within the israeli
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government that it is undermining the posel the way in which the mediators are trying to sell it to hamas, very much trying to frame it as a way to ultimately end this war in gaza. and so all of that is happening as we await hamas is formal response to this. we understand that it will be delivered to the qatari mediators, but so far it has not come us official say that they are checking in with the cutters by the hour, keeping track of this hoping that hamas says yes and of course, if they do, then the question will be, what will the israeli prime minister do? we'll, he's sick with this posel, the site criticism from the far right of his government ministers, itamar ben gvir, bezalel smotrich vehemently opposed to this deal or will he followed through and and deliver this deal that could free dozens of hostages and result in a weekslong, if not months-long ceasefire in gaza we will be watching those next steps closely. >> jeremy diamond line for us from jerusalem, then you so much still to come. we're playing russian roulette with our planet. those words coming from the un secretary general
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talk about this point that we're at, we have bill nye, the science guy, and bill today happens to be world environment day, but really, we're here on this highway to climate hell. just put this into perspective for us. how bad is it? >> well, it's only getting worse and worse everybody. it's the latest research is that there is not going to be this mythic tipping point or turning point, or point of no return. instead, things are just going to get hotter and hotter and worse and worse. and while this is easy to say, what are we going to do about it? well, as you know was born in the us. i grew up in the us and so my perspective may be strongly influenced by that. but i claim the united states has to be in the lead. the united states has to lead the world in dressing global climate change in order to do that, we have to reduce our emissions and come up with new
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ways to provide electricity to more and more people are around the world. these are easy things to say. but difficult things to do. the longest journey begins with but a single-step. so let's go build to that point. and this isn't really a question about politics, but it does involve politics winning you're talking about the us leading when there's so much disagreement among leaders on capitol hill about whether climate change is something that needs to be addressed as urgently as some scientists are calling for it to be addressed. i'm wondering what your messages to those folks that are still skeptical well, i would say of course, listen to the scientists, but also listed your constituents. the same states that are being being affected today by very, very hot temperatures and very unpleasant living conditions when it's hot and humid are the people that are going to vote. and so this will, sooner or later they're going to vote
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for people that are going to address climate change is especially true in the us south in the sunbelt and in florida, georgia alabama, where you have this ocean states dealing with rising sea levels and, and increasing hot, increasingly hot and you've been conditions and big storms and of course now fires on top all that. these are all things that have been predicted by scientists today's climb environment de united nations intergovernmenta l panel on climate change has made these predictions. the predictions are coming true so let's get to work people and as you point out you wouldn't think it would be a political issue. you wouldn't think it would be a red or a blue thing. you think, right? let's face this problem people and get to work. and so i think this election, this coming election
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is really going to be a turning point. we're going to have to decide what we're going to do as a nation to address climate change bill, the secretary general was talking a lot about that parrot paris climate threshold of a one-point degrees celsius increase. >> and he says the difference between 1.5 and two to could really be the difference between extinction and survival for some parts of the world. i wonder what you say when there's this sense, i think among some people of there's an inevitability. maybe we can do everything that we want to try to fix this. but some country, china, india someone over there isn't going to get on board. and this is just going to happen. i mean, what is what is your message to that kind of mindset? >> well right now, the term of bart is due missed the due mists got no time for it.
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people cut the hand-wringing. let's go, let's have the eu and lead hi, ironically or a point of remarkable interest china, the chinese industries are leading the world and producing renewable electricity sources, solar panels, solar hot water systems, electric vehicles, and so on. >> and the reason everybody the reason we're advocating for electric vehicles is because we've created all these roads. we have all this vehicle infrastructure. so we got to use it. it's not that electric vehicles or some sort of panacea to the problem, but we have all these roads, we're going to use them. let's use them as efficiently as possible. well, that's the whole electric vehicle idea so the united states has to lead. and so let's get started. this with respect whining about what other countries are or not doing is important, but it is
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not what will motivate global change when it gets too hot, you can't live. you can't a human can't get rid of enough heat to survive. so we're going to have to make changes and what we wanna do is make changes as quickly as possible. so as few people as possible have to move because we're going to have these displaced populations. where are they going to go? what are they going to do? we've been talking about this for a long time. so everybody two things you can do about climate change. talk about it and i'm not kidding. >> we were talking about climate change. we were talking about these other important issues. we'd be getting to work and the second thing everybody is vote vote with the climate in mind, with the environment in mind. this is true for people in the us, canada, mexico, people in north america. we can make these changes. >> let's go all right. and
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with respect, no whining says bill nye always great to get your perspective, bill. >> thank you so much for being with us all right. >> it's still to come nearly a decade after being acquitted of killing her roommate man to knocks returns to italy for another court hearing. this time it's for a slander conviction. what the court ruled and what it means for her. >> and safari scare a giraffe snatches a toddler during a drive through wildlife excursion. >> we have details next on cnn news central june 19th, cnn celebrated juneteenth, which special performance is by john legend eddie lewbel, smokey robinson. >> everyone should celebrated juneteenth, celebrating freedom and legacy wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with par sega because their places like to be for
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today believing that she would be vindicated. she was not an fact, was far too distraught even to speak to media according to her lawyer, what did this entail? a reminder here? she was found in is after being found guilty after spending four years in prison in italy, she was found innocent in 2011 and then completely exonerated by an italian court in 2015. that was in relation to the murder of meredith purchaser, but there was that charge of slander against her former boss, patrick lumbar. >> that charge of slander stood and in 2019, a european court of human rights said that in fact, when she implicated this man, a man who was proven to be completely innocent, he was days in custody but had nothing to do with this crime when she implicated in the european court ruled that, look, she did it under duress, under hours of questioning from police without a lawyer, without a translator. >> and for that reason, they reverted it back to italian courts will unfortunately, the italian courts had their say
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today that is for amanda knox. i want to point out here that many innocence were ensnared in this entire thing, but none more so than the family of meredith curvature, right? the exchange student who was murdered and every time this comes up again, her family really does not have any piece of justice. one man was convicted of crime, he was set free in 2021. riana or alright. paula newton. thank you so much for following that for us we want to look now at some of the other headlines were watching this sauer, a new look at national wastewater data suggests that the h5n1 bird flu outbreak in dairy cattle is largely contained a states that have already been reporting affected herds. >> most detections we're found in texas and michigan. however some detections also appeared in minnesota and iowa where no known dairy herds are infected and a texas toddler is recovering after a giraffe pick up out of her parents car
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moment for spaceflight in general. we're seeing a lot of competition mission across different types of launches and different organizations how do you feel about what we saw today no, i think it's a great step of proven capability and that's really important. >> i mean, as you say, it's been a huge week. china landed on the other side of the moon this week and just blasted off over the moon with a robot, which still bringing a sample back our rocket lab down in new zealand. just launched a nasa payload up into orbit to monitor the earth's health and tomorrow spent sex is launching starship on its fourth test flight. so i mean, it's a huge week for what can happen when we all put our minds together and try and do hard things but this specifically getting a new human rated vehicle with two friends of mine onboard safely into orbit. and on the right of space station that's a whole new kind of step of capability for the united states. and i'm
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really pleased to see it. >> all right. tell us about these folks. tell us about your friends. >> sunny williams are full first name is sanita and then butch wilmore, i think is full name is barry, but i've never called him very in my whole life they were both tests. they were both test pilots in the navy butch flu fat in sunny flew helicopters so experienced operational pilots and then they trained and worked as test pilots. actually, i flew with butch at pax river and then they both open astronauts for a long time and they've been helping to invent and make this flight say spaceflight safe today. for gosh, better part of a decade so this enormous pyramid of life, of them gaining skills and competence, building their own personal lives around being the type of person that could be trusted to fly a brand new spaceship. and taking a huge risk, no one's
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for not just exploring the moon, but settling the mountain i mean, all that's happening right now and so to have another vehicle that can safely take people to orbit and back i mean, you can stage it as a competition, but what it is, is a step function that's almost unprecedented of all of human history. and everybody who it's been working on it, tens of thousands of people can feel a lot of satisfaction today yeah, we're exciting new era here. >> and chris, thank you so much for talking with us about it. chris hatfield, we appreciate it. >> thanks briana, thanks boris, good to cavity. >> of course. >> the white house and democrats are defending president biden against a wall street journal report that claims the president is slipping mentally as he gets older. we're going to speak with one of the reporters who is behind the article after a quick break the increase in wildfires is exponential, unpredictable, uncontrolled
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