but holley also testified during cross-examination that sometimes hunter would lie to her about his whereabouts. the last witness that the jury heard from today was an older gentleman who found the gun in that dumpster. now he testified he was rummaging through the dumpster trying to find recyclable materials to sell, to earn some money when he came across a firearm farm at the center of this case a prosecutors say they'll have two more witnesses, then it will be the defense's turn to put on their case. they say they have two or three witnesses but they still have decided if hunter biden will take the stand. >> anderson. >> all reed. thanks so much. quick programming note, prison biden speaks tomorrow morning from normandy, d-day ceremonies, continuing their and the president expected to talk about threats to democracy. it should get underway. we're told her about ten eastern time and you can see it right here. of course, the news continues tonight. the source and kaitlan collins starts. now see you tomorrow so

for the source tonight. maga flame thrower and former trump aide, steve bannon, order to surrender to prison by july 1 he could be behind bars until just before election day. with no chance of a pardon. this time, speaking of what president biden pardon his son hunter, if he's it's convicted. he just answered that question about a sons ongoing trial. >> what he said in moments and too close for comfort. >> russia is sending warships in a nuclear powered submarine, two americas doorstep. what is flawed over putin up to now? >> i'm kaitlin collins and this is the source one of the loudest voices defending donald trump is now on the verge of losing his microphone tonight at least for the next four months. that is steve bannon, the former senior white house

aide, turned right-wing podcast firebrand, has just been ordered to surrender to prison by july 1st by none other than a trump appointed judge. that means voters may not hear as much from one of the biggest voices and the maga ecosystem. and that crucial stretch before election day after ben and learned his fete today, he exited the dc courthouse and went straight for the mics all of this is about one thing. >> this about shutting down the maga movement, shutting down grassroots conservatives, shutting down president trump. there's nothing that can shut me up and nothing that will shut me up. there's not a person. there's not a prison, there's not a prison built. there's not a prison built. our jail built that were ever shut me up but that's a real question tonight. actually fanon will not be able to have access to his maga microphone and prison to whip up an influence the trump base. >> he will be able to host his popular far-right podcasts from behind bars.

>> you'll recall he was sentenced to four months in prison after he defied that subpoena from the january six congressional committee as did another senior trump aide, peter navarro. as we've reported, peter navarro is currently serving a four-month sentence at a federal bureau of prisons facility in miami for also stonewalling congress but you may over why the committee wanted to hear from bannon himself when it was investigating that attack on the capitol here is in part what he said that sparked that interest on his war room podcast, the de before january 6, all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> it's all converging. >> and now we're on as they say, the point of attack. all i can say is strap in more recently, bannon has been one of the voices who is urging other republicans to use all the tools available to them for retribution as they frame it following trump's indictments

we're a group of insurgence this insurgency. >> they're going to be in prison. yes, prison of course, as we know tonight, barring some last-minute reprieve, bannon is going to be the one reporting to prison we have a slew of sources here tonight to join us, former assistant us attorney elie honig is here plus former trump white house communications director, who famously had some choice words for steve bannon once. >> anthony scaramucci, whose new book is from wall street to the white house and back also here is national correspondent for puck tino when her book is the maga diaries, my surreal adventures inside the right wing, it's so great to have all of you here, and le, steve bannon is threatening to essentially try to go to the supreme court here with this, to try to either get the dc court of appeals the district court to weigh on it as or go to the supreme court. the supreme court did not get involved when peter navarro asked for that help. what do you expect them to do here? >> they're not going to touch this. and steve bannon will be

in prison, i believe as of july 1st, he's just about out of options here. now, the reason he's been now he got sentenced to four months. he was given what's called bail pending appeal. and by the way stash that term away because donald trump will be be asking for sale pending appeal after he sentenced in july. and that means what it sounds like. you get to stay out a prison until you're appeals over, but to get that you have to show that you have a substantial likelihood, potentially of winning your appeal. will bannon's losses appeal now, so he's down to the hail mary's. he can ask the entire dc circuit to rehear the case. they almost never do that. i don't think they're gonna do it here. he can go to the supreme court. i don't think they're taking it. and then he's got to surrender. >> he already had a bit of a period where peter navarro has been imprisoned for some time now the way through steve bannon has not. so i think that was also part of what factored in today. but what was also interesting is what bannon's attorney, david shown who are viewers will be familiar with said after the judge, he was arguing with the judge after he said that you do need to report july 1st, and it got to the point where judge nicholls said, quote, one thing, i think you need to learn as a lawyer is when a judge has decided you

don't stand up and yell at them. let me just repeat what i said at the beginning. this is a trump-appointed judge who's deciding all of this. >> i'm going to defend david shown if i can't for a moment, i've gotten to know him just from his appearances here at cnn. i looked at what he said. it's it was after the whistle, the judge had already decided you're not supposed to do that. you're not supposed to say anything, but he didn't swear he didn't launch any personal attacks. he made an impassioned speech on behalf of his client. he was venting a little bit. it happens. i've seen people do worse. lawyers do are some core i maybe have done a little worse than that. and courtois once in a while. so i'm gonna give him a pass on this. he was speaking on behalf of his client. he was speaking to the issues he was passionate. judges. sometimes it happens, they smack you down. i'm not worried by that. >> that is scaramucci. you obviously famously had some, shall i say, colorful language about bannon during your brief stint? as the white house communications director when he was still there as the chief strategist, what do you make of bannon being told to show up to jail and less than a month well, listen. >> i said that seven years ago

and just look at it was like a research report on a stock or a human being and look at this guy. but i'm just going to tell you he planned this just so you know, he thinks he's playing four-dimensional chess. he wants to go to jail so that when he comes out of jail, he can say this is lawfare all that nonsense. he was spewing in front of the court and he wants to have a retribution movement that isn't grounded and due process or isn't grounded in facts. and so that's right out of a fascist playbook. he has to be called out on that every step of the way kaitlan, but that's really what the game plan is. and he thinks he's playing four-dimensional chess hopefully he ends up in the slammer a lot longer than four months. >> i mean, you know, this world you're wrote an entire book on this world. what do you, is that how you see it? is that what he's doing here absolutely. >> this is a situation where being in prison for saying things that are political in nature, but also reflect the

atmosphere and the feelings of a large part of america that january 6 was a little too overblown and just a bunch of peaceful patriots for him to be jailed for that just confirms what they believe like literally it's clout building at this point the question though for me is whether trump is actually going to swoop in and and try to help ban and out here, or at least argue on his behalf like right now, between now and july when he goes to prison, bannon is going to be showing up at a rally for a congressmen who endorsed ron desantis and trump is door saying his opponent because he doesn't like bob good at this point. so if bannon shows up to do this is trump going to suddenly have a moment where he thinks, oh, no, i really don't like steve bannon today. is he going to swoop in? i have no idea. >> yeah. that's a good question, bob. good. >> we've seen him on the show before, but bettina in this sense the maga ecosystem, if you watch to bannon's podcast,

you'll see a lot of far-right lawmakers going on it. >> he targets speaker mike johnson. he's very involved in what's happening just in republican politics in an on capitol hill generally, if he is though in prison for four months, he wouldn't get out until right april for the election. and i wonder what tina, you think of that ecosystem looks like without steve bannon's voice, i think it's still survives. he has a rotating crew of people who show up on his podcast. i'm sure he could pull a couple of favors and say like, hey, matt gaetz, do you want to guess toast the pod for this week? i'm sure he'd say yes. he'll just constantly have that publishing schedule over and over again with other voices who will repeatedly say, hey steve bannon's a murder now steve bannon's a martyr now, there's not really going to be much of any publication schedule that gets shifted as for what steve bannon himself can say directly from jail. i would not know so in the first place, i don't think that's been laid out yet, but his message is still going to be

out going to the number of people who ascribe to this podcast. >> if you're just looking at this, this is now a two senior white house aides who were in the west wing are regular presence had the ear of the president of the united states at that time, maybe not so much now that are both in prison and having to have these that are going to be in prison unless seabed and gets a last-minute reprieve, which elie said seems unlikely. >> and i just wonder in the world were nothing is normal. what you make of that i know this is like a weird thing to say, but just watch how this plays out. trump doesn't like this because this puts a tension on steve bannon and trump likes all the attention on himself and you may remember when steve bannon left the white house, trump call them sloppy. steve bannon they have a truce now. >> but you'd never really hear donald trump's say much about steve bad. >> and moreover, there was a book written in 2017. i can't

remember the author's name, but it was called the devil's bargain and the leak was steve bannon, basically explaining donald trump was his hand puppet and steep bannon was the puppet master. and so i'm telling you, donald trump's not come to his aid donald trump lets him have his show, but he really doesn't like the attention that steve bannon is getting. and so i think this is a nightmare for navarro and a nightmare for bannon. and it's not going to end up the way they have originally intended this to end up even though trump's coming out and calling this a total and complete american tragedy. i mean, he appointed the judge in this case well, he asked to do that for the base. he's not he knows that he has to say things like that, but i don't see him stepping past a few messages on truth, social, and doing much more for steve bannon than that because i'm just telling i know

trump, but he's into two things into attention for himself. and money. and it depends on what de the week he's waking up. one has the focus over the other, and that steve bannon guy eclipses them. sometimes he does not like it. >> well, and of course he doesn't have the pardon power anymore, lan. this is far from steve bannon's only legal issue. i mean, he's got an upcoming trial here in new york on the charges that he defrauded trump's supporters in this scheme to pretend to be building a wall on the southern border, which they didn't actually do he was pardoned by trump when trump was about to leave the white house. those are on federal charges. trump does have that power anymore. it also can i note the judge in that case one more, sean, the judge that we've just been talking weeks, he was supposed steep and it was supposed to be on trial in that case last month, but it got bumped for some other trial. remember what it was some other trial in front of judge merchan. get a lot of coverage. that's a bigger problem for steve bannon. actually, then the four months on content that he already has because he's charged with defrauding his own

donors to this rebuild the law fund. he's looking at substantially more time than four months. if and when he's convicted in that theft case. so he's got bigger problems. one quick thing to tina's point about bannon's ongoing media enterprise. you can actually communicate quite a bit from federal penitentiaries now from the federal bureau of prisons, inmates can communicate over the phones that a lot of them now have email, believe it or not, you are given monitored emails, so i've seen people, michael avenatti has been in prison. he has been communicating quite a bit with the outside world. >> can you host a podcast? i'm looking to do logistically? yeah you don't have an angel? >> i'll tweet from prison that it says that someone else is tweeting it on his path because he's in prison is just huge caveat, right? >> yeah. i don't think they've figured out podcasting from the bop just yet, tina i just as someone who's covered this so extensively and you know, this orbit, so well from before, steve bannon was the white house chief strategist and two, when as scary he noted when he was fired to where he is now, i just wonder how you're looking at all of this i think this is a situation where the idea of

who gets to be quote, unquote, martyr in the era and the time of maga gets put to the test right now. >> one of the big memes theories, what have you going through? maga voters and the america first movement is are we being targeted for our political beliefs? are we being targeted by the fbi for showing up at this rally that's why you really haven't seen a lot of other trump rallies to the scale of january 6 ever since that happened, it's because they all believe that the fbi is secretly in the crowd trying to catch them but every time a person gets put in jail for a january 6 related charge they are suddenly hailed as a martyr. trump literally throws a big rally with a choir singing about how persecuted they are and it's also ties into the rhetoric coming out of the republican party now of we are going to have retribution against democrats who are

trying to put us in jail. this is a moment where a person who is definitively maga and loud about it is being put in jail. now is that going? to float among the base if trump puts his seal of approval on that line, maybe i have no idea. >> yeah, it trump was blaming the biden justice department for it tonight, though, of course, republican lawmakers who also defined a subpoena, nothing happened to them to know when it's fascinating, great to have you on the show for the first time. anthony scaramucci, elie honig is always q. and speaking of course, of democrats, that trump is calling for revenge for, he is now asking to indict the january 6 congressional committee. we're going to speak to a former member of that committee, right after a quick break? also, russia up to something sending warships and a nuclear powered submarine quite close to the united states, the white house says, is watching closely it's, like

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chapter report, you can read it yourself online. the committee also held multiple televised hearings that you saw here on cnn and they also release transcripts of the interviews with these witnesses, which you can read online tonight. let's get straight to the source on capitol tonight with a member of that committee, democratic congresswoman zoloft grin, and congresswoman, i just what's your response to the former president saying that you in the fellow members on that committee, including he cited specifically liz cheney and adam kinzinger should be indicted well, i mean, he's really off the deep end. >> i don't know whether the president ex-president's ever actually read the constitution. if he had, he would know that article one, section six basically provides that members of the house and senate can't be prosecuted for doing their legislative job. number one. >> number two, we did a good job and we referred matters to the department of justice where

we found evidence. >> in some cases, the doj has moved on but all the evidence is out there as you've just pointed out, that transcripts can be read right now, we posted an variety of places hoping that it couldn't be suppressed in any way that the ex-president is threatening to arrest people shows he does not understand or does not care about our system of justice. i mean, an order to be arrested, a warrant has to be issued upon probable cause. you can't be held to answer for a serious crime absent a grand jury indicting good say last december, he intended to terminate parts of the constitution on truth social. he said that he didn't say which parts but maybe it's those parts. >> who knows what he's saying that the committee and is accusing the committee of deleting information can you

just clear that up? was any thing that was nothing deleted know it's garbage he he is not that familiar with the truth we've seen that throughout this whole thing on bannon. >> bannon was held in contempt because he didn't honore subpoena very simple. he could have come in. it could have played the fifth. he just blew us off and he was found guilty of criminal contempt. and then he appealed it. and he lost the appeal. and now a trump trump-appointed judge has said it's time to serve your sentence. this isn't about suppressing speech or anything else. it's about contempt of this subpoena. they are making wild claims do they believe that who knows, but they're trying to whip up their base and americans to believe something that is not true well, also what's at the heart of this is it was claiming

executive privilege over that, even though he wasn't working for donald trump when at the at the end of his time in the white house and certainly not during january 6, correct when does that's why he was he was found guilty of contempt. he had no he had no excuse for not coming in to testify and there were things we wanted to know from him. we still don't know what kind of things did you what did you want to ask? see ban if he had come and he could have pleaded the fifth. as you noted, but what would you have wanted? to be able to ask suit? steve bannon the day before and his podcast. >> he basically predicted the disorder and the riot that happened the very next day. we do know that there was from the telephone records that there was substantial communication between the white i'd house and bannon, as well as roger stone the day before we needed to know what role he played is

clearly the riot in the attempt to overturn the election, to overturn the constitution was premeditated it was led by trucks bump but also involve many others and we think mr. bannon as well, based on his statement in his podcast, but we sure wanted to know more about that based on what we're hearing tonight and what is kinda been this emerging theme where republicans and trump's allies are not even really disgusting. ising the fact that they would like to use the tools available to them that justice department maybe to go after his political opponents and enemies. i mean, does that give you concern? does it give you pause? i know you decided to the constitution, but how do you feel about that if he is reelected? >> you know, what is concerning to me is that some of my colleagues in the congress who know better, are falling into this bizarre rhetoric that

somehow they're going to arrest people who are their enemies that's not the way the law provides. they know that but they are i think i guess, afraid to stand up to trump and they're undermining the rule of law in america. and that's a very dangerous thing to do. they're undercutting the very principles of our constitution and are orderly system of justice and today of all days, when we're remembering the americans who saved america, who saved us from from nazism and on d-day, that this kind of rhetoric to undercut our constitution and our system law should be out. there's, it's really disgraceful congressman zoloft. >> grand. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you meanwhile, president biden, who is overseas, was just asked a big

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the outcome of the trial and also pledging not to pardon his son. this, of course, is the first time in us history that we've ever seen the child of a sitting president on trial? the second time will be in a few months from now and september when hunter biden is back on trial for federal tax charges, i want to talk about all of this with democratic strategists, laura think and also seen political commentator s. e. cupp, who has a brand new show that we'll talk about in a moment. but on this statement from president biden, what did you make of his answer tonight? >> i thought it was smart and i thought it blended well with all of his previous statements about the rule of law. he had to toe the line and it's got to be really painful because a hunter biden and his son, he's watching him get dragged through the mud and his drug addiction be on for all eyes to see. so the challenge for him is really to continue to live up to his values when it was really personal and he did that today. it seems like a pretty normal, straightforward answer, but it takes new weight when we see what trump is saying, oh, outcome of his trial or hearing

from other republicans who say they don't accept the jury's verdict here in new york. >> the contrast is profound, and i did a piece for cnn.com just on this today for joe biden to sit there and say, well, i'm not going to intervene and the legal process and i wouldn't pardon my son i argue that requires more restraint than if you were talking about himself, which is what trump does, right? it's talking about himself and then contrast that with all the republicans calling every trial rigged and a witch hunt attacking judges and their families, dressing up in matching costumes to go down and alive for trump in front of the courthouse. i mean, it is a very profound contrast. you have one side democrats and joe biden protecting the justice system. and on the other, republicans and trump protecting trump. >> yeah, it's remarkable to hear that. it also to say he won't pardon him because i didn't. the white house had said that, but we had not heard it from president biden himself yet. and the other thing it would trump is he's back on the campaign trail tonight. it's the first time he's been on the campaign trail. since he

became it convicted felon and he did an interview with dr. phil, laura, and he said this part about what we were just talking about, what the congresswoman they're getting revenge on his political enemies. he said revenge takes time. i will say that in sometimes revenge can be justified. but as to be honest, you know, sometimes it can. i just this is recurring theme that we are now seeing. >> the political consequences of focusing exclusively on his own victimization. >> it may, may show up at the ballot box to come back to haunt him because he knows that this is something that he does by default. >> but that's not what voters are focused on constantly to be moan his plight when the reality but he is even with all of the right-wing ecosystem weighing in in the same way, we see a majority of voters that trusted the verdict, trusted the jury, thought that the system worked in this case. so that was with democrats largely silent on the matter as well. yeah. and biden himself weighed in on this verdict. this is what he had to say.

>> stop undermining the rule of law stop undermining institutions. touch with his whole effort is all the maggiore republicans are coming out saying this is a fixed, this was a jury that this was a good judge. set up to get trump. >> there's no evidence of any none he's trying to undermine that low-key. got a fair trial. the jury spoke like a speaking all cases and should be respected listen, biden's in a tough spot. trump is leading the story, the narrative, right? you wants to talk about the trials. so biden has to talk about the trials if trump were talking about the issues that would force biden to talk about the issues and the issues do not favor joe biden. mostly if you look at crime, immigration, and the economy. so none of this makes any political sense, but we're in such a warped political environment where we have such so many unprecedented stories. both of these trials are

unprecedented. it's dominating the news and laura's right, this is not what swing-state undecided voters care about. i care about issues. >> and at the turning point event tonight, the president that form and it trump was that he did talk about the executive order that president biden signed this week on immigration. and he's pledging to reverse it on day one, if he's reelected though, which is interesting because you're seeing progressives on the left criticizing biden saying these are trump policies and then trump's onstage saying, well, i'm going to reverse this because i don't like, let biden has done here for saying it's not enough essentially. right. and he was sort of if you do if he didn't because he really was processing the executive order trying to make sure that it pass legal muster. and what he said in the interview tonight, i thought was compelling. he said, look, i want but the bipartisan deal that i cut with conservative colleagues from state-like error, like oklahoma. so we want to he wanted to see the bipartisan deal. he was holding back on the executive order. we see him releasing it. now because he has he said something needed to be done as

we as we move ahead and as we look at the insecurities that are on that border, what did you make that comment? sorry, which comment? which one? >> trump's segment hill, reverse. >> i mean, listen, it's so absurd. what republicans were offered was more than they had ever been offered before from democrats they made the political calculation to not take it to save trump. now, they got something that, would solve a problem and now trump is san while it's no good on, i would reverse. i mean, it's absurd. no one's interested in solving problems anymore. it's all for political gain and people are sick of it. >> indeed, law fig se cup, who i should note is the host of the new election show, battleground that starts june 10th on fox stations. be sure to watch i'm not sure hear on the source as well. thank you both. >> also tonight, the war over reproductive rights is heating up on capitol speaking of no solutions. >> this is the election is drawing closer. democrats that's want to put pressure on republicans to go on the record. this time when it comes to birth control, one of the lawmakers leading that charge

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will continue two republicans, senators, they're weighing in after two republicans senators voted yes on a bill that would guarantee the access to birth control nationwide on capitol hill yesterday, democrats meanwhile are trying to make republicans go on the record on this issue ahead of the november election? >> round two of what happened in the senate could soon happened in the house i source tonight is behind that effort. she is the number two democrat and house minority whip, catherine clarke, and cars, but it's great to have you here because let's talk about in this vote that you're going to try to do. it. would it would be a discharged position which is for those who don't know this kinda complicated process. but you would need 218 votes for you to get it on the floor. do you think you're going to get there that is going to be totally up to the republicans. >> and i did agree with one of the senators comments. there this is a show, this is a show me where you stand. do you stand with freedom with american women or do you stand

with extremism? and what we're doing in the house by trying to force this boat by collecting 218 signatures to bring it to the floor for a vote is to show the american people where you stand. and what we have seen time and time again is the republicans, the house gop, the republican party overall? caters to extremism and so we're saying american people deserve to know, are you going to stand with access to full reproductive health care? are you going to say no to what we are witnessing in states like texas? where women who have had miscarriages are being denied care, having their lives threatened undergoing sepsis, and infections that are life life-threatening and can leave lasting infertility. and disability and so we understand

exactly where the republican party is trying to hide and say this is just a messaging bill. and my answer to them is it sure is show the american people. you're clear message that you stand with democrats you stand with president biden and saying, this is a fundamental right for people to have contraception and make these incredibly personal decisions themselves there are some house republicans who this could be a tough vote for because it house republicans who are representing districts that president biden one and 2020 and find themselves in this situation with other votes. have any of them indicated to you that they would be willing to vote for this you know, they say lots of things when they go home, they'll say things in private conversations. >> what matters is how they're going to vote, and what we've seen so far this week is we've had zero republicans sign this, this procedural tool to bring a

vote. so you can say what you want. but when we come to congress, it's your vote that matters. and time and time again, they show their fidelity to donald trump they come to new york, they wear matching outfits to show that they stand with him no matter what. we're seeing, american women and families saying we want to make these decisions about if and when and how to have children. now, politicians in washington america chins understand as i traveled, but country this is about fundamental freedom. >> well, on that point and what you just said about it being a messaging bill. >> i mean, they're always messaging bills. whoever's in control. we see it all the time. we've seen it from speaker mike johnson. but but honestly, governor glenn youngkin's of virginia, who obviously poles very well in his own state was on with jake tapper earlier today. it was critical of this effort and this is what he said don't

think democrats really want a bill they don't really want to make policy. >> they just want to have talking points he says they just want to have talking points. how do you respond to that is that how a views women's health care in this country? >> that that's merely a talking point. we are almost two years this month from the dobbs decision that set women back 50 years in their right to access health care to make there own decisions. so you bet, i want to put republicans on record. the american people deserve to know where they sat. and every day they march towards a nationwide abortion ban. there won't be safe states because they have a plan. they are writing it down. they say it and contraception fertility treatments are part of this plan this is about control. it is about extremism. and to have the governor of the state of

virginia say that somehow this is just a political stunt is insulting to every single woman in this country. >> what catherine clarke, thank you for joining us around set tonight. thank you. caitlin. >> great to have you up next. a warning that we talked about at the beginning of the show, a nuclear powered submarine i'm washing russian warships or cutting close to america. they're going to cuba. the question is, why and also with all of the beautiful remembrances that we've seen for the 80th anniversary shrey of d-day, you are not going to miss this phone 101-year-old tiktok star well, it's hard if i decide what the biggest

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going to own info wars, which is this conspiracy empire that he's used for years and years to peddle all saltzer, all sorts of lies conspiracy theories. he's eventually going to lose control of that. it is a little bit confusing because his companies in bankruptcy court and he's personally in bankruptcy court, but because he owns the company, it's part of his personal assets. this does mean he will lose control of the company well, and can we just play this we're all watching this moment of him on, on info wars other day he was seeming to cry about this situation that he was in i believe my parents i believe he got his copy. >> people gotta be stopped pop up. >> the other day. we're going to beat these people i'm talking about the future of this company. >> i think he sees the writing on the wall there, kaitlan and he was talking all weekend

about how this was likely possible that he was going to get shut down and now he is agreeing tonight in court to liquidate his personal assets, which again will mean that he's not going to own when this conspiracy empire, he's owned since the 1990s and really used to poison the public discourse. >> yeah, i don't think he insofar as much sympathy with those tears, oliver darcy, thank you for joining us on the breaking news. speaking of our other story tonight, a group of russian navy ships are now on their way to cuba. and a nuclear powered submarine. >> this comes just one day after the united states gave ukraine permission to use american made weapons to strike inside parts of russian territory as a defense mechanism. joining me your tonight's in an anchor and chief national security analyst, jim sciutto and jim, obviously this is a big question of that shift in policy on ukraine. we've talked about that and what that looks like. we've heard from president biden talking about that as well. but on what we're seeing here with these russian naval ships, this nuclear powered submarine that are

going to be going to cuba, they say is a sign of friendly relations how can concerned are us officials about this ships have gone there before. it's been some time since a russian submarine has gone there. >> it's a nuclear powered submarine, not nuclear armed, but that's different. and i think we should put it together with other signals and movements. russia has been sending over the last several months and years closer encounters to u.s. aircraft over and around alaska, for instance, more frequent and closer. >> we've seen them in asia. we've seen russian ships operating alongside chinese ships in these china sea, for instance challenging us ships up close there. and now you have similar kind of movements, 90 miles off the coast of florida. it's not militarily significant in that the us does not expect a strike. but it, but it is certainly signals to ending and it shows that russia is willing to stick its thumb

in the eye of the us as case of power projection. the other piece of this kaitlan, anytime you have russian forces in close proximity to us forces, it increases the chances of miscommunication and therefore, at least some chance at potential escalation that's not what either side wants in a case like this, but we have to look at all of these together. as a measure of where this relationship stands today and where the danger of small lots altercations turning into bigger ones increases over time. are us officials worried about that, that kind of misinterpreted signal? >> absolutely. and it's one reason why, for instance, when i speak to the cia director bill burns, that they are frequently talking about the importance of military-to-milit ary communications. in particular, we have deconfliction lines with russia, for instance, given you have us and russian forces operating over syria and they speak to each other, so they're aircraft and their forces on the ground get. too close to each other. but the trouble is

the other side doesn't always pick up the line right? and that increases the risk in this case, they're not expecting an altercation here, but it is definite signal sending by russia. and whether one other piece of this caitlin, it doesn't get a lot of coverage, right? you have venezuela with close ties to russia in a potential conflict with guyana. again, right in america's backyard. i mean, it's a measure of where this relationship stands between the us and russia globally right now. >> yeah, and we've seen how reliant cuba has become on russian oil and gas. but what about jim, what your thoughts were on president biden's? comments tonight on president who knew saying he's a dictator, he's not a decent man. i mean, as we've just, we know it's unknown quantity, but it's still two hear what he said. >> i think that in particular, i heard that as establishing a difference between him and donald trump was, as you know, is often expressed admiration for putin or at a minimum said that he can work with them joe biden saying particularly on this de as we mark 80 years

since the us stood up to a dictator in 1944 with the d-day landings. it's a through line that president biden and the administration is making frequently to say the us stood up to a dictator than it needs to stand up to this tape dictator. now, by the way, is it propagates, the largest war we've seen in europe since world war ii. >> yeah, jim sciutto, a lot to keep our eyes on on the next few days thank you for that question. and finally, before we go tonight, a 101-year-old veteran who stormed the beach on d-day is back in france to mark 80 years since the allied invasion. this is papa jake larson, eci is known, he has become a huge star on social media thanks to his great get grandchildren. and he took his nearly 1 million followers it's on tiktok along with him for the journey back to normandy hi everybody. >> this is debate day of my life going back to plants and this is the start blessed papa

jake told cnn that like many young men on that day, he actually lied about his age when he first enlisted. >> he was just 15 15-years-old. he returned to normandy two honore, those who fought alongside him i don't think i was a here. i was just like anybody else we are all in this together 31 of us your horse prepared to give our life to keep couplers, laughs, lotto europe just a remarkable scene to see him sitting there in front of all of those, those young men who did die on that beach that day, holding cristian's hand and reflecting on this moment, you can see here president biden met with him and many of the others from the greatest generation in france today to thank them for their service on that historic day. >> hey of course, their unwavering commitment to freedom and justice will never be forgotten. certainly not by us tha y