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athletes from naomi osaka to michael phelps, and on it goes caitlin clark has a confidence about her that is very much in keeping with someone born in 2000 to getting full blast title nine she is also so comfortable in insider skin, so composed. i met her for the first time on friday. interviewed are for the first time and i was even more impressed and i had been from watching from far. do you think there's any chances were running out of time that they reversed this decision. >> i i think we should predict i won't put words in your i think they're going to reverse this decision. >> well, they're announcing it tomorrow and i don't think they'll do it then she would be an alternate and there could be injuries. in fact, one of the guards is injured, right now and that could be tuition. to keep an eye on because you're right. there's such an outcry and i don't think usa basketball i know for a fact, having interviewed these people, they had no idea the national outrage that they were going to unleash. there's outrage, and that is i can tell. >> well, kristie, great
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reporting as always. thank you and thanks for putting up with me at this late hour. >> it gets a little psalter whereas the hours go on. thanks very much for watching. i'll see you tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. i might be a little certainly than two right here on cnn, anderson cooper 360 as next, have a great tonight on 360, real warriors and people don't. trump is now calling warriors, namely the violent mob that storm the capital, keeping them honest on the difference. also tonight, hunter biden's fate now in the hands of the jury how the defense and prosecution did and making their case. plus the latest in a string of cnn exclusives on decades of sexual abuse. the coast guard academy tonight of coast guard official break silence and says she was part of what she now calls a cruel coverup good evening. >> thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep romanness was something the former president has been saying a lot lately. and what it says about him. sunday is president biden was visiting the american military cemetery outside paris and frehse from marking the 80th anniversary of d-day. and
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at normandy donald trump was saying this there's never been people treated. >> more horrifically. then j six hostages. but those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened. all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing and then the police say go and go in, go in, go in, water is set-up that was that's the former president of the united states sunday in las vegas. and just to refresh your memory, these are the people he was honoring specifically the ones in prison for crimes they committed on january 6, or jail awaiting trial. and it's certainly not the first time he's called these people hostages ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the harb unfairly treated. >> january 6, tass ditches
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it's now part of his routine that recording he's standing in saluting four features him saying the pledge of allegiance while these inmates, whom he calls hostages sing the star spangled banner by the way, the former president began calling them hostages in november after actual hostages were taken by hamas, four of whom were freed in a daring military operation in gaza after almost eight months of mental and physical torment at the hands of hamas. and we'll have more on that tonight. >> but those are actual hostages. >> trump would have you believe the january 6 inmates are hostages and also warriors and victims? he said that to victims he also claims were invited in by police. so they're warriors and their hostages and their victims, and they're also according to him, lovers the love the 11 year i've never seen anything like it. there was also a love fest between the police, the capitol police and the people that walked down to the capital so stir that in with all the rest. and here's the former
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president is reshaping the attack on the capitol. peaceful protesters full of love invited into the capitol by police who loved them and return. but who somehow tricked them and made them victims, who then turned into warriors who are now being held hostage. let me introduce you to one of these man who's presumably a warrior and trump size. daniel rodriguez. this is his photo was posted on social media by username deepstate dogs. rodriguez was part of the mob that attack police with metal poles and bateson stolen riot shields and chemical spray. and in his case has stun gun he attacked officer michael fan-owned with it, who later suffered a heart attack and traumatic brain injury rodriguez pleaded guilty like so many others have and was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison. his is one he's one of the people, the former president is calling a hostage and it shouldn't come as a surprise that trump is unfamiliar with what a warrior actually is. casey's watching, here's one from d-day technician fifth grade john jay pender junior he waited through machine gun and artillery fire carrying a vitally important
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radio assured omaha beach which he did despite being wounded once then again, making several trips back through enemy fire to get more equipment ashore until he was wounded a third time and died. technician pender was awarded the congressional medal of honor posthumously. president trump refused to visit the same cemetery that president biden. so many other presidents have over the years. and according to to his former chief of staff from being corps general kelly, quote, in the atlantic, he said, why should i go to that cemetery? it's filled with losers. >> had he gone, he might have learned what being a award are truly means separately, the former president now convicted felon, met by video conference de for a pre-sentencing interview with the new york probation officer, joining us tonight, former republican congressman and house, january 6, committee member adam kinzinger, also seen and chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, congressman. >> first of all, what is your as somebody who was actually what is your reaction to the foreign president calling the riders warriors and hostages and victims i mean, it's, it's
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thick and disgusting. >> obviously. i think we have to be careful to not allow this outrage to just numb us like this really should be. and thank you for putting this at the top of the show. there should be at the top of but every new show anywhere in the country at how agreed justs and terrible this as they, they're not warriors. the ones that went into the capital. most of them, if not all of them, have been arrested and tried. and interestingly, anderson, at the beginning when they started to get arrested, they were remorseful. and then this right-wing ecosphere put their arms around them singing the national anthem and stuff. and in that process, convinced them that they were victims and have made them martyrs and heroes. this is not something americans that aren't completely sold out to the cult should be, should accept and we should have this be a fresh outrage every day when he does stuff like this. >> it's also entering andrew. i mean, i know some actual warriors. they're not people who usually view themselves as victims or just sort of
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helpless victims. very often, how dangerous do you think it is for law enforcement and andrew and the public when you have the former president gaslighting his supporters because, i mean back in 2022, there was a guy upset about federal authorities searching mar-a-lago i'll go for classified documents. he was killed after trying to shoot his way into an fbi field office in ohio. it feels like du the congressman's point the former president just says this stuff and people just kind of ignore it. but i mean it has repercussions potentially yeah. >> so let's get the facts out first on this warriors claim. so as of january 6, 20 in 24, which is most recent numbers, i could find. we've got 1,200 and 1,265 people have been charged in as a part of that january 6 case, 718 of them on that by that de had already gone into court. raise your right hand, sworn to tell the truth, and then said did it i'm guilty to the whether it's trespassing or
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obstruction of official procedure or assault on police officers and others. so the idea that these people are somehow being held against their will for political reasons is absolutely absurd. >> and donald trump knows that's absurd. >> he knows it because he spent four hours that day watching the video tapes from behind the cloistered walls of the white house in the warm embrace of his secret service security team. >> so he knows exactly what happened that day. >> he knows those people were rioters and it's directionless and many of them have to their credit stepped up and taken responsibility for that. the thing that i cannot get past anderson is how many people give him a pass for saying absurd and secondly, false things like this. and you're right, these falsehoods that he, that he throws out in front of his rallies in support first, it is for political advantage, but it comes at the cost of driving up risk to
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people in the system. law enforcement prosecutors, and others. and you made the perfect example. ricky schifflin, who was outraged by what he undoubtedly heard the president say after the mar-a-lago rate decided to take it out violently on the fbi's cincinnati field office. that could happen any day anywhere around the country to any fbi agent or other federal officer by somebody similarly misguided. >> also, i'm congressman. it's just i mean, it's kinda it's just i mean, it's sickening that the former president basically solve this so the october 7 hostages being held by hamas and islamic jihad and others as a branding opportunity and i think according to the washington post in november is when he started using the term hostages for the for those who have been found guilty of crimes on on january said x and re-brand braise, branding them january 6, hostages. i mean, it's
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it's really worked it is really warped in that was various student view to notice is that he never used hostages until there were real hostages. >> some of which are still being held, some have been killed that are being held against their will. i mean, look, i'm probably started with marjorie taylor greene two she she came up with some of that, but i think the biggest thing to take off of what m'kay six stood up, lindsey graham, i'm done with this guy. we had a hell of a run, but i'm done. you think of like marco rubio, all these people that know better, that just keep their heads down and don't say a word. this is threatening the very fabric of democracy because all we have to have for democracy to survive is a basic compact that your vote, you can vote, your vote will count and the person that wins wins. that's what donald trump was tearing apart that basic
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contact contract. that is the only requirement for democracy to survive. and he is turn these people that violated the rule of law into martyrs. and by the way, if we don't have rule and law in this country, democracy can't survive either. and he is just an absolute il, fit mentally flawed is probably the nicest way i can say it. former president and candidate for future president in america has to reject him. >> john i know you have new reporting on the former president's meeting today are interviewing with probation officials, which is a normal part of this procedure. what happened? >> so today, donald trump with his lawyer, todd blanche, over a microsoft teams connection, had this virtual meeting to prepare to assist probation department in new york city with preparing the pre-sentencing report that goes to the judge it was an unusual meeting in that present there was the commissioner of the new york city department of probation wanted to homes her general counsel, bridget hamline, and the probation
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officer who would normally be there by himself or with another officer who would do the interview. the interview was led by commissioner homes and a city official who was briefed on the interview afterwards told me that at all times donald trump answered the questions which were things about what are your living situation any health issues, family history, where do you spend more time? new york or florida? a lot of things that don't while trump, but thank everybody already knows. but commissioner home said these are the normal questions we're going to put you through these questions. they said he was polite, he was respectful and that at the end of the meeting he wished them well and ended the call with be safe and we just got speaking in new york city mayor giuliani, former mayor giuliani's mug shot from arizona authorities. he's been he was hard to get a subpoena a subpoena to fund. they finally did. this is his his his mug
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shot that's not the mug shot. >> will try to get it he's pleaded not guilty there to charges of trying to overturn the 2020 election results what what happened to him i mean, well, this has been an amazing rise and fall from a prosecutor built on the image of thomas dewey going after the mom i've been crooked politicians to a mouthpiece for donald trump as president. >> and then the lead counsel. >> by the way, this is the mug shot that was another mug shot of his, which clearly he's gotten the lesson from that prior mug shot because this one is smiling at least that's right. the prior mug shot was from the georgia cases. so now he's on his second mug shot, but he has he has he has hitched himself to the donald trump wagon, but he's also been through multiple breakups
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and divorces. he's lost millions and millions of dollars. he's in bankruptcy, has apartment is up for sale and it was amazing to see someone who was the face and the voice of law and order in new york city for so long and then the mayor for two terms. a law and order meir, be someone who's going on his second mug shot and who has been disbarred and barred from the practice of law in multiple places endrew in a series of interviews over the past week, the foreign president has talked about, been asked about this whole retribution seeking. >> he talked about running. i am your retribution. he had said two months ago oh i just want to play some of what he said well, revenge does take time. >> i will say that does. and sometimes revenge can be justified. so i have to be honest, sometimes it can look when this election is over
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based on what they've done. >> i would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's joe biden but very terrible thing. >> it's a terrible precedent for our country does that mean the next president does it to them? that's really the question so in terms of if he is president using the levers of the justice department, the fbi, to go after political opponents in a second term, how would that how would he go about that? >> i mean, how how feasible is that? >> well, i think it's entirely feasible. i mean, it's it's interesting to me that across those interviews interviews with people who are like dr. phil and others who are trying to kind of get him to walk away from those claims. >> he soft petals it a little bit, but then you get down further in front of the rally crowds and really hits at home it is absolutely clear, said it many times in front of many different people. >> he intends to take the levers of power if he is reelected and use them for his own personal retribution,
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goals, which in and of itself is so unbelievably offensive should be to any american than any american president would purport to do such a thing. can he do it? sure, he can do it if he follows through with the plan that he's already laid out, this 2025 plan that they've talked about. >> you'll replace those folks insignificant positions. the department of justice and the fbi and other lawn federal law enforcement entities with flunk who will do whatever he says so the first steps in this process of trumping up charges against people baselessly and throwing them in jail could actually happen. >> i think it gets tougher when those cases start to make their way through the courts but that takes a long time. and so i think it's reasonable that people who think they might be on the former president's enemies list start thinking about what does that look like?
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what could that, how can that actually play out? in your lives? and i think people are having those conversations just trying to figure those things out as we speak. >> interim cave, adam kinzinger, john miller. thank you. coming up next closing arguments in the hunter biden federal gun trial. and what jurors are now deliberating. and later the rescue of those four israeli hostages from gaza. how it went down, who helped? and more viroid that the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher, biden democracy is on the back hello, your freedom is on the ballot. trump, there is nothing we cannot do. we will make america powerful again, the president and the former president. one day two very different visions for america's future. the weight only cnn can bring it to you moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate thursday, june 2789, live on cnn and streaming on max. >> though bike riders some
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of support, hunter's family members and pastor taking up three rows in court today have known the family you don't abandon your friends and family in closing arguments prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said, those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that no one is above the law. the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury
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that when she returned her father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any other but in some drugs. but why is reminded the jury, hunter's former girlfriend hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow, had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand, pay no attention to the other one. >> hey, accused prosecutors of cherry picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that federal form. >> lowell attacks two of hunter's former girlfriends, who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not
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in the key month of october 2018. he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car? and noted hunter was the one who told hallie to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case, a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will be back here in court tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. to continue their deliberations. it's impossible to say how long it it will take them to reach a decision on these three counts. but i was important earlier today, and then we're also attentive as the judge explain the instructions page by page line by line. these are of course, the rules that they need to follow as they undertake this historic decision anderson. all right. >> thanks so much more now. and how pros and biden mishandling
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the weight for the verdict and the biden family presence throughout the trial, including the first lady, who in back and forth during the french visit to be in court with her steps on cnn's mj leaves at the white house for us tonight. what are things like at the white house as they await the jury? >> well, you know, the trial of the president's son has been an extraordinarily sensitive issue for this white house. and the president. and it is not a coincidence that the president himself has barely commented on the ongoing trial. we heard him, of course, make a statement at the beginning of the trial thing that he loves his son and that he he is proud of him for showing resilience as he has fought addiction issues and then the other rare exception, of course, was in a recent abc interview where the president was asked asked whether he would pardon his son, whether he would rule that out actually, and his answer, a one word answer was simply yes. he would rule that out. >> the president anderson so it has been really clear that he is going to accept the outcome of the trial no matter what happens, and that he's just not going to comment on his
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son's case as three is deliberating that of course, is in line with the president sort of broader view that you just don't comment on a trial or a legal proceeding when it is still making its way through the legal system. and i should just note that that is an important area where the president had sought to draw a contrast between himself and the former president whom he has accused of trying to put his thumb on the legal system on an influence in a political way. other areas and other issues at the former president has dealt with this. of course, the president has made clear he sees as being wholly inappropriate. >> mj lee, thanks so much at the white house tonight joining us now cnn legal analyst norm eisen and jennifer rodgers, also former federal judge. sure. shannon lynne norm. what do you make of closing arguments? do you think he's going to get convicted? >> i thought both sides did an able job in closing arguments. the prosecution hammering the evidence that hunter biden and
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it was using or addicted to drugs before and after this key october 12th, two 23rd period. >> they don't have actual evidence about the de, but they have yes. >> and the judge instructed that you don't have to prove the de you have to show that hunter biden was actually engage aged in using or was an addict around that time and they have him checking into rehab before and after the various witnesses. but anderson, abbe lowell is a very capable defense lawyer and he leaned into that critical gap and the state of mind question this has to be knowing. that means it, hunter biden had to say on purpose, not by mistake i'm not an addict. i'm not a user. and low argues, well, he thought he was not an addict at that time. there's no proof he was using prosecution ahead on points, not impossible. you get a defense verdict or a hung
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jury what do you think yeah, i agree. i mean, i think they'll probably get a conviction here. there's a very narrow path for the defense to win this. they really do have to lean into this knowingly and they can't prove it on these days, but prosecutors always say, follow your common sense, right? like the guy has been in rehab, people around that time, there's these text messages about dealing and the hallie biden testimony about paraphernalia in the car. and so use your common sense. >> that argument does that make sense to you that well, i didn't think i was an addict on that day. and therefore, i signed this document, say i'm not an addict. >> i think it's the only argument that the defense has. the question is, can the jury accepted? >> and i think contrary my fellows here, i friends here maybe maybe some jury juror or more jurors who are sympathetic to what he's gone through. >> and may have experienced something like that. sometime in their life i'm going to cut him a little slack and say
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well, on that day, maybe you didn't use so that takes care of the use and as far as being an addict, well, maybe that day he thought he'd come out of it and was no longer an attic because he was doing better even if felt if he fell off two days later so they might have a basis to draw that distinction if they want to, in your experience on the bench, i mean, is it tough for juries to see past this is the son of the president or someone to be famous, very tough, very tough. >> and the fans is a cut one way or the other. >> i mean, i think well, i think it could cut in his favor the families there. it's a high-profile family. somebody might indeed think that he's going through this because of that. and again, as we all know, it only takes one to cause a hung jury. so i'm not as confident as my colleagues that there's going to be a conviction here, but i wouldn't put my money on a non conviction either. >> you the prosecution is aware of this risk because the first thing that prosecutors said in
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closing was all those people sitting behind the defendant are not evidence that's pretty unusual in my area is that that actually i thought a little aggressive i mean, here are these people there to support him? lots of people on the jurors, the jury have had addiction in their families. and here's his loving family there to support him and they're going to point out of and be like, don't pay attention to those people. i thought it was a little overly aggressive, if anything, it could have i liked it. it could have been it can boomerang because they're going to look over it when he said that, look right over at those three rows. think about parents and sisters and children and all the rest of it. they could just override this if they want to know and there's also some breaking news in trump's classified documents. kids, judge aileen cannon denied a defense's effort to dismiss the indictment, but she also struck a paragraph from jack smith's indictment anderson this was a motion that the defendants had brought attacking this
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indictment every which way from sunday they lost almost everything. >> and the question we should ask is, why did judge cannon for these relatively easy unexceptional challenges take so long dragging it out. she didn't give one gimme to the defense it's one paragraph, paragraph 36. it has to do with what happened at bedminster that conversation about iran documents. it's there as to give notice that the prosecution is going to introduce prior bad acts, but striking it was virtually or nothing, judge. >> judge. judge, what what's going on? >> well, in my mind, i was pleased that she got this done so fast from may 22 to june in tenth for her is practically speedy. so i was impressed that she didn't sit on this. obvious motion for very long. i
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have to tell you that motion is made in every case and it's never granted duplicitous snus multiplicities never works but they make it to preserve the record. nobody expects to win those motions. you do it to preserve so it didn't take her all that long to get this one done. >> i mean, given the history of other things, she has been delaying on, are you surprised by the length this thing is dragging out of in general in all the motion. but this motion was relatively fast. that's a good sign. maybe she's hearing us talking about her and she's getting her work done. who knows, but this thought was relatively fast. and as far as that foro for be the similar act is very clear that she had she is saying but at trial, there may be a basis to offer this evidence justice, and belong in the indictment. get it doesn't relate directly to the charge. >> jennifer, does this impact the chance to this thing moving forward faster i mean, the problem is we have so many outstanding motions that are complicated, time-consuming problematic seep emotions, the classified information,
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protection actin, and so on. >> it's just we're not moving forward in a way that it's good for going to trial. there's just so much should have saved those pages and all those words. >> to resolve the other leg gig motions that she has on her show, she's trying to get one off of her death. that's good. >> judge. edelman. thank you. jennifer rodgers, norm eisen. thanks so much. i've next new video that dramatic rescue of four israeli hostages over the weekend plus their condition and the latest on attempts to secure a ceasefire what do you want to laugh? >> can ban eric. >> i want to be world heavyweight champion and be with my family the iron claw now streaming exclusively on max in three seconds. >> why this couple will share a perfect knowledge but we got to solar houses. >> well perfect. don't worry, just sell directly to open door
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freed hostage says she wants israel and hamas to accept a ceasefire deal has been publicly supported by president biden also tonight we have new video and details of that rescue. >> your cnn's kylie outward this is the view from the helmets of the israel defense forces. >> they unleashed heavy gunfire searching for israeli hostages held by hamas a daring daytime raid that freed four of those kidnapped by hamas on october 7. and held captive ever since it was an operation that took weeks to plan after receiving intelligence that the hostages were being held in apartment buildings inside the nuseirat camp in central gaza, on the way out from gaza, all forces rescued our hostages israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks. and is rarely air force pilot involved in the mission told the jerusalem post that is one of the hostage it is noa argamani got into his
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helicopter, has units, quote, mantle of composure melted away the magnitude of the moment struck then he quote, immediately reported that the diamond is with us and in good health some of the special forces were disguised as displaced palestinians and members of hamas military wing. eyewitnesses told cnn we're also reports of large gunfire after the hostages were rescued at least 274 palestinians were killed in the operation, and hundreds injured. >> that's according to the gazan the 30s who do not distinguish between civilian and military casualties the israel defense forces dispute that number, saying the death toll was under 100 i want to say thank you. thank god. >> in israel, the families of the hostages express their overwhelming joy and having their loved ones returned safely after eight months in captivity. >> i haven't stopped smiling since my mug was returned to
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me. >> now is work continues for a ceasefire and hostage deal with 120 hostages still held by hamas there are some fears at this rate could be a setback. >> it's a legitimate question. it's hard for me to put myself in the mindset of a hamas terrorists. we don't know exactly what it is is that they're going to do as secretary of state, antony blinken travels to the middle east to continue ratcheting up pressure on hamas to take the deal. he also isn't sure what hamas will do. >> i can put myself, none of us can put ourselves in the myosin of hamas for its leaders. so we don't know what the answer will be but wall in egypt blinken also said that his egyptian counterparts had been in touch with hamas quite recently. i can't go into the details of our conversations today. except to say that artists and counterparts were in communication with hamas as early as recently as a few hours ago. >> now, during his meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu today secretary of state antony blinken can
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reiterated that the united states and other world leaders stand by that comprehensive proposal that president biden laid out ten days ago, and they say that israel has put on the table for hamas to accept. but so long as this period of uncertainty is extended, as us and other countries are waiting for hamas to respond to that proposal, the united states is concerned about the possibility of netanyahu changing his mind and deciding to reject that proposal, even though keys signed off on it for it initially went to hamas anderson, probably i would thanks. coming up. cnn exclusive, a us coast guard academy official resigns and breaks her silence about sexual assault allegations. and a decades-long cover up at the academy aldrich james is cold calculating cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets and spies,
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what's next? >> i'm summons her body in washington and this is cnn ahead of what could be an intense congressional hearing tomorrow involving testimony from the command into the us coast guard academy official there has resigned and spoken exclusively with cnn about what she says was her unwitting role in a decades-long cover up of sexual assault allegations at the academy one. >> so per say, persuade excuse me, pervasive. it prompted a detailed report that was eventually kept confidential even from congress tells cnn reported it's disturbing findings last year this former official tells cnn she believes top officials used her to convince victims not to tell their stories to members of congress. it says she has proof. sunland safadi has the exclusive interview they put me in a terrible position. how dare they do this to me. they had me standing up in front of cadets for 11 years talking
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about honor, respect, devotion to duty, whereas there where's the respect to any of us? i'm disgusted. >> shannon norenberg spent more than a decade as the sexual assault response coordinator at the coast guard academy, it felt like an honor to be there and help them with this thing that is so hard and awful and difficult and awkward and the coast guard did tell me they were taking it it's seriously. i felt like they meant it until she says she recently discovered leaders had used her to lie to victims, making her an unwitting accomplice to a massive coverup of decades of seconds sexual assaults at the coast guard academy. >> i had no idea that what i was telling those victims was not true. >> it started several years ago when norenberg was asked to take part in informing victims about a sensitive investigation, code named operation fouled anchor coast guard leaders had discovered that dozens of cases of rape and abuse from the 1980s to the mid 2000s have been ignored and covered up. the attackers
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usually left unpunished. >> i got a phone call from someone at headquarters for saying, hey, we want you to help out. they told me at that time that all of those investigations had already been done and that at this point, we were going to call everybody up an offer them an in-person meeting so that we could say we were regretful all the things that actually sounded amazing. i took these to every single meeting. the coast guard gave norenberg talking points to go over with the former cadet's who had been sexually assaulted. >> an apology tour where they were assured their cases were supposedly being handled properly after all these years, members of congress congrats and staff and dhs have been briefed on the general outline of the investigation, what was found, and what disposition decisions were made. we assured them the hey, we're handling this. we've got this, we're taking this seriously. thanks for coming forward but it turns out actually the coast guard
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hadn't told congress. >> norenberg didn't know it, but the investigation was quietly closed. so the decades of assault were kept hidden from congress and the public until a cnn investigation revealed at all last summer, victims were never given any recourse. i trusted the coast guard implicitly and i assume that the talking point document they handed me was true i would never have considered that that might be ally. >> the cnn reports about operation fouled anchor have led to multiple federal investigations congressional hearings in an apology from the head of the coast guard, we fail to provide the safe environment that every member of the coast guard deserves. norenberg says, after seeing cnn's report, she feared she had been used in the cover-up. she found the talking points in our files recently, which confirmed it and start to read it. >> and i was like, that's not actually that's not what happened they lied to me. they lied to us they had me lie. oh, my god. they had me lie to them. and actually that's when
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i lost it because at first i was like, wow, that's crazy. the light and then i was like, wait they used me to. lie bow they planned it as far back as 2018, not to tell anyone about this. >> to protect the precious institution, they be trade the victims of fouled anchor over and over and over. >> this is my boot camp photo. >> norenberg says she was raped by a supervisor when she was an army recruit in 1988 and says she knows how it feels to be told there's nothing that can be done. she is resigning and going public about what happened. the public needs to know this is happening. people sign up to serve their country. this is how they're treated like trash. it's not okay in response to a cnn request for comment, the coast guard says the talking points were created months before the meetings with the cadets. >> and we're not updated then another former coast guard official who was present at the meeting said no victim was
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informed that congressional notifications occurred. >> i want to tell the victims of fouled anchor how sorry, i am to be a part of this terrible scheme. >> but let me try to make it right now. i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry something mr. >> product joins us now. what morning can you tell us about this hearing tomorrow? >> yeah. anderson, the head of the coast guard admiral live. linda fagan, should we testifying before the senate intelligence? committee tomorrow? so be talking about the changes that she promised to make in the wake of cnn's previous reporting. and she has repeatedly said that she wants to learn from the past. she wants to move forward, but shannon norenberg account here certainly adds the whole string of controversies showing that this sexual misconduct remains pervasive across the coast garden and definitely underscores that this is far bigger issue than she has publicly acknowledged. and we certainly expect that she will get some questions about normal bergs accounting of all this tomorrow as well. >> anderson, mr. friday. thank you so much. >> next to independent
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party candidate gives me some concern and it's to be taken seriously. >> we're now from cnn's even weekend, who spoke with kennedy's supporters on a 17 acre tree farm in suck ville wisconsin. dells stan braunton rides around the land with hope. the 2024 election will bring monumental change shape in 2020, i voted for trump, but now he says the former president's sounds like a broken record. >> it's all about the election was rigged and the court system is ray, this year, the wedding venue owner who plans to eventually transform his property into a wellness retreat is all in for independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. bobby's the first candidate who i've i actually felt good about. >> i think a lot of people are very frustrated with voting for the lesser of two evils. is that how you view the major party candidates? yeah,
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absolutely a self-described conservative, independent stan braunton shares kennedy's vaccine skepticism, and learned of him through kennedy's work with the anti-vaccine group, children's health defense the 62-year-old typically votes for republicans, but he's attracted to kennedys anti-establishment message. ending the form was the financial corruption within our government agencies. and the fact that we can't trust our government agencies to do their jobs because they've been hijacked by corporate interests. >> you don't think are government agencies can be trusted. >> know why? >> because they're bought and paid for. >> i found a video rfk jr. on youtube. >> recent college grad katie zimmerman voted for president joe biden in 2020 but now she spends her saturday mornings tabling at farmers markets like this one in wahba tulsa for the kennedy campaign he's coming to
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all voters and saying like, if you vote for me like you'll be able to afford to buy a house. first is i haven't necessarily heard biden safe things like that, that appeal to me if ultimately trump gets reelected how would you feel about that? >> i would not feel really great about that if he was elected into office, but i i wouldn't necessarily feel any guilt because i was able to have a choice and who i wanted to vote for dog denticola is a long democrat who never thought he would find himself lobbying trump's supporters. just switched to kennedy. >> what do you think this guy's go to 24. go watch when he's going to do you haven't even given him a chance because he doesn't i have a chance anyway, because it hard to convince trump's supporters to vote for kennedy. >> yeah, i actually just appreciate that he was willing to stop and talk to me, fed up with political polarization,
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denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump a person like bobby kennedy who is really a messenger of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters from both sides that's back on deal's farm. i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. >> if we don't make some changes and find somebody who has creative solutions and somebody we can trust who wants to bring us together? we're gonna be on a world of hurt even rfk junior seemed to be pulling more votes away from biden or trump based on who you spoke to anderson kennedy's coalition of voters, they've really span the political spectrum polling data does indicate the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate in 2020. a lot of his support comes from the so-called double-haters. those holding unfavorable views