denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump a person like bobby kennedy who is really a messenger of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters from both sides that's back on deal's farm. i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. >> if we don't make some changes and find somebody who has creative solutions and somebody we can trust who wants to bring us together? we're gonna be on a world of hurt even rfk junior seemed to be pulling more votes away from biden or trump based on who you spoke to anderson kennedy's coalition of voters, they've really span the political spectrum polling data does indicate the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate in 2020. a lot of his support comes from the so-called double-haters. those holding unfavorable views of

both biden and trump anderson, even mechan thanks the news continues here on cnn front next the breaking news, trump's interview with a probation officer wrapping up the first first of its kind in history, we have new details about the questions he faced and how his answers could affect his sentence, as well as who was in that room. plus a secret new recording tonight is supreme court justice samuel alito. >> this is the former republican governor kristi todd whitman breaks her silence about the man that she had publicly supported an introduced to the united states senate she now. regret backing alito, and it's the hottest stock on the planet. >> a little known company forcing apple today to play catch up we have a special report. >> let's go outfront and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett, outfront tonight. the breaking news, former president trump, just wrapping up an interview with a probation officer. this is a first never in american history has a former president had to sit down with a probation officer well, because a former

president has never been convicted of a crime. but here we are. this meeting was mandatory for trump as he is now a convicted felon in the state of new york. trump answering questions from his home and mar-a-lago. now, according to a source, the question answers lasted about half an hour and trump was asked we understand some of the basic questions that other convinced it did felons must answer those questions for regular felon would include questions about family background, financial status, living situation, and crucially, it chance for the defendant in this case trump to say why he thinks he deserves a lighter punishment now there is no pleading. the fifth year and the answers trump gave will influence judge juan merchan, who will formally sentence trump in july. here's the range trump is facing anywhere from probation two up to a maximum of 20 years in prison after being found guilty of all 34 counts in the new york hush money case. now, one of the most important drivers into whether which extreme this ends up on or where it ends up in that in that band is whether trump expresses remorse. and that of course is not happening trump today posting online, i

truly wish people would remember that all of these trials in quotes are concocted and run by the crooked joe biden white house and doj for the purpose of election interference and damaging crooked political opponent me as much as possible. of course, it always bears noting in a moment when he says that the biden doj could have prosecuted this case and explicitly chose not to. and the white house, the white house officials privately call this case the run to the litter. but trump is going to melt this trial for all its political worth. and it comes as his top political ally today, rudy giuliani is now facing some justice of his own, charged with allegedly conspiring to overturn arizona's election. this just came out moments ago. what you're looking at on your screen is the mug shot of giuliani america's mare turned into trump's fall guy, and that is his mug shot in the state of arizona, maricopa county tonight brynn grasp begins our coverage outfront live in new york and brynn, you've got new reporting about this interview between trump and probation officer so what are you learning yeah, that's

right. >> so aaron is interviewed, took place around 330 today, as you said, it lasted for about a half an hour, a bud source in new york city's who was familiar with the actual interview that took place over a virtual meeting telling are john miller that trump was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating, answering all the questions asked of him. now, we've reported that todd blanche trump's attorney was with him in mar-a-lago on that side? the virtual meeting by here in new york are understanding from this source is that the commissioner of the new york city probation department would need a homes was present. the general counsel for that department was present, as well as the probation officer that is assigned to trump's case. of course, this probation officer now will likely stick with trump and this will be the person who does the follow-ups. this are saying though that as of now, like i said, he answered all of the questions that were asked of him. and right now, there doesn't seem to be a follow-up, but of course there is always that

option to should they need it. so one of my more details of how that probation interview went as we've described before, many questions could be asked of certainly about trump's background, his financial history, has he abused drugs or alcohol in the past? it's certainly not much ground covered in a 30 minutes, but of course, we're talking about a defendant like the former president here. now what happens next the defense it's her attorney, todd blanche, his team. >> they're going to submit a sentence recommendation to the judge. the probation officer, who conducted this interview is going to conduct. it's going to compile hello report. and these are just two elements that are gonna be factored into judge juan merchan's decision when he makes that sentencing done, which of course we know the days next month in july 11, aaron, are i brynn? >> thank you very much. in new york outside the courthouse, michael jacobson and our team join me here. michael, let me start with you because you are the former new york city correction and probation commissioner. so when need homes now doing that now.

>> so what's your take of what happened today? >> we've been obviously probation or regular probation officer assigned to the case, but it sounds like the commissioner herself was in the room as well as the general counsel will certainly expected someone more than just a probation officer to be in that interview. i mean, it's so unusual for 1,000 reasons. most of them obvious but just the fact that it was remote. and that trump's attorney was there. those are two very odd things in enough themselves. so given all that, it certainly made sense that you would want someone other than the probation officer it certainly makes sense to me for the general counsel to be there the sort of equivalent of trump's attorney on the probation? and the commissioner runs the agencies. so i think she thought it was appropriate that she was there. >> now, i know these can often go up to 90 minutes or two. i then go longer. this went less than 30, and obviously this isn't a case where the judge needs to be reminded about the details of the defendant or anything like that as would be the case in normal situations. but what do you think they got out of it?

>> well, it's just the beginning of what can be a pretty long and sometimes intrusive process. so you shouldn't take too much that it was just a a first polite interview. probation officer has wide berth here to get into, as you said alcohol and drug use. talking to pass as victims can examine trump's behavior in terms of the violation of the gag order revisit the finding that he sexually assaulted jean carroll. all that is open, fodder for a pre-sentence investigation. they wanted to sort of paint a broad picture. so this was the start of something at certainly not the end, which is important thing, right? it's not as if this is done and then we wait a month, right, terry, this is this is a part of it, but you've watched the judge so closely in that room, judge, that trump had referred to looking like an angel, but he was really the devil was the way trump put it but a judge who his demeanor was always positive, serious, he never never betrayed any

sort of emotion how much weight do you think he will give this report, this interview that's the report that's going to come out of the interview that michael's talking about. i think he's going to take it very seriously, but like you said, aaron, he knows this defendant, he knows trump. >> he saw him every the day he saw trump violate the gag order ten times and he imposed the fine for that. and i think he's going to really want to see whether there is remorse and he's going to take what's been going on in las vegas, the rally, what he's saying and all of the things that he saying now really don't show remorse. and i think that is going to have an impact. i'm not saying he's going to incarcerate him, but i do think as to whether it's probation or house arrest or community service he's going to go with something that's a little more serious. so mark the way that it was described, brynn reporting, the way that trump handled himself today was that he was polite and respectful and accommodating to the probation officer. and the obviously the commissioner in the general counsel, who were also present for the new york

parole commission. i'm sorry, probation commission. >> but this is the first time of foreign presidents ever been in a situation like this. >> mark, you've been in situations like this hundreds of times with clients. so does the judge already have his mind made up when you hear a accommodating, polite and respectful. does that mean anything considering what trump says about this, judge? pretty much daily i think it was a pragmatic approach that he should be respectful to probation officer interviewing him. >> i've never had general counsel show up at the hundreds that i've ever been on. i've also never had the commission shouldn't have department of corrections show up. so obviously, everyone's looking at this very, very carefully. but aaron, as we talked about last week, i do think that this judge as most judges who sat through the trial before sentencing, have most of their mind made up 90% or so. this is not going to, i think move the needle very much because everyone knows who don't trump is. everyone knows about the facts of the case, which really interesting is whether or not they took this opportunity to give a written statement or a verbal statement of his position. i'm almost surprised

if he didn't just because of who he is, although i tell my clients never to give a written or verbal statement at this stage wait until you get in front of the judge all right. >> well, we'll see the mark. i want to ask you about one other thing here because it trump obviously was in this interview today means i'm rudy giuliani, right? who was at the helm of this, his efforts to overturn state election results was he had his mug shot taken america county and arizona a process in phoenix after pleading not guilty to charges of trying to overturn the election, they're just looking at this picture and he's got a blue and a white star tie on. i tried to smile, i guess. i mean, mark, what's your reaction looking at that mug shot? >> it's insulting to the process to be honest, i remember rudy when i grew up in new york and all of that good stuff, america's mayor, like you mentioned, it's just sad that we're getting to the point where on the same day from a president, maybe a future president is getting your

probation interview. and the former mayor of america is getting a mug shot taken heavy, said that he knows the respective should give the process he hasn't done it recently, but he knows and you don't smile, you don't look away from the camera. you give the respect even at the process of a mug shot, to respect the process that quite honestly, he was sworn to protect for decades and it's when will you say right? >> i mean, he's mocking it by the smile. it's not, not of a state of mind, it's a mocking. >> my goal when we talk of trump allies, it's actually very relevant here in the context of the probation conversation because florida governor ron desantis, they obviously were rivals for a time. >> they were allies, then rivals. and now here we are but desantis could actually be the one who oversees whatever sentence trump gets, right? >> right. so the way this works is a little known part of probation national e coli interstate compact. and if you're sentenced in a jurisdiction, but you happen to live in another jurisdiction, which is the case here, right.

sentenced in new york lives in florida most of the time through the interstate compact, the supervision of that case will be done in a jurisdiction that the person lives in. so under normal circumstances, if he was sentenced to probation, they would make a request to be transferred to florida probation. right? >> those requests are normally fulfilled. i think this one there may be a little more of a discussion then they're normally is, but that agency is, as you say controlled by the governor and floor. >> so how he really has to check in or the way he's treated that would could potentially be the decision of governor to potentially the that compact gives wide berth to the receiving agency as they're called and the general rule is that agency treats this person as they do similar people there are no services, no similar people and it's a terrorist.

>> what's the process here is my mega is point out this is the first step. it's a month from tomorrow that we're actually going to get the sentencing unless it's delayed. >> so the process here is what then trump's team files for what they think the sentence should be. and there's a whole lot of back-and-forth exactly what one of the things that the probation officer will be doing. they don't just have to interview some thinking interview family members. they can talk to prior victims if there were any victims in this case, it's victimless, so to speak, but they're going to be continuing to do their investigation. the judge is doing his research by the way, he is looking at how many similar people have had these types of charges and what has been their sentence. so he's doing that. >> and meanwhile, the attorneys obviously are working on their recommendations. >> both the prosecution and the defense. all right. well, thank you all very much. next we do at breaking news on the jury, deliberating in the hunter biden trial tonight, his family turning out in force today. the prosecution warrants the jury about by this family presence

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could have a verdict biden facing three charges tied to the purchase of a gun while abusing narcotics. if the jury finds them guilty of all three counts, the president's son could serve up to 25 years in prison he could also be forced to pay up to $750,000 in fines now, when you think about that, just speak declare here as father or the president, the united states has made it clear that he will not pardon his son if he's found guilty. i've impressed has been following this trial since the beginning. he's out from the courthouse and obviously you've spent nowadays in days inside that courtroom, evan so the jury has this now, what can you tell us tonight well, aaron, i was in the courtroom this afternoon as both the prosecutor fusion and the defense. >> did their closing arguments, you could see some jurors nodding off during the 90 minutes defense closing arguments abbe lowell the lawyer for hunter biden, really focused his arguments on trying to direct the attention of the

jury on things that he says shows showed shortcomings in the government's case, who pointed out that because there is no direct evidence that hunter biden was using crack cocaine in october of 20 me 18 when he bought the firearm that that is reasonable doubt as to whether he knew he was lying on the form that he filled out when he bought that gun. now, in response to that, there are kinds the prosecutor said someone who holds a crackpipe to his mouth every 15 every 15 minutes knows that they're an addict. so that's really the concise nature of this case. this is a very simple case and so now that the jury has it, we anticipate this is not going to take too long. however what we know is this, once he wanted we get a verdict from this hunter biden faces up to 25 years, possibly under this law, we don't expect that as a first-time offender, if he is convicted that he would get that much. we also anticipate that the that the judge will

take at least a few weeks to set a possible sentencing. again, if there is a guilty verdict, again tomorrow, the jury is back here at 9:00 a.m. and we expect that there'll be here all day tomorrow. >> alright. evan, thank you very much. i mean, we'll see when that verdict comes. and that could be tomorrow, and evan will be there in that courtroom, which was packed today and notably, a number of people in the room were related to a hunter biden, including the first lady, jill biden france over the weekend, she was back. prosecutors have been telling jurors not to be swayed by the president, the presence i'm sorry, of the president's family in the courtroom saying, quote, this is not evidence tom foreman's out front as the jury headed into deliberations, hunter biden's family was there in force his mother, his wife, and others packing the first rows of the courtroom this even after a brutal week of testimony, full of painful details of his infidelity, divorce for this drug

addiction, and grief, all of which he acknowledged long ago i made mistakes in my life and wasted opportunities and privileges. >> i was afforded for that i'm responsible. >> women in his life had played a big role in court. ex-wife, kathleen buhle, testifying that she searched hunter's car before their daughters got in and found drugs or paraphernalia on approximately a dozen occasions, his former girlfriend, zoe kestan, whom he met when she was a dancer at a club, said he appeared to be smoking crack on their first evening together. his daughter naomi tearfully took the stand in her father's defense, only to be asked by prosecutors about this text to him. i'm really sorry, dad. >> i can't take this and first lady, jill biden has been in court to holding hands and the family line. >> i love hunter and i'll support him. and i in any way i

can. and that's how i look at things hunters, deceased brother beau has also loomed large. >> witnesses have talked about the devastating impact of beau's death or cancer in 2015 hunter has said the grief was so intense it spurred or romantic relationship with beau's widow, hallie and that grief turned into a hope for a love that maybe you could replace what we lost. and it didn't work it didn't work. >> indeed a trial, haley said hunter introduced her to crack it was a terrible experience. she said, i'm embarrassed, i'm ashamed. i regret that period of my life through it all the unstoppable refrain, drugs, drugs drugs with segments of his own audio book played as evidence i possessed a new superpower, the ability to find crack and anytown at any time, no matter how

unfamiliar the terrain, it was easy. >> and of course, president joe biden is hovering, not in person, but in spirits. his decision already made will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes this would be a difficult bit of testimony for any family in this country to endure. >> i am sure, but with a member of that family seeking to hold onto the white house knowing the whole nation is watching, just makes it more so. aaron, tom, thank you very much. and ryan goodman is here, so ryan just going through that, how many people were in the room when you think about it ex-wife, sister-in-law, former girlfriend his his stepmother, joe biden, all of them in that room. what does that do to the jury? >> so, i, think it can make the defendant to look like a more sympathetic character, especially because you've got this audio tape, which i think

some of what they're playing, it makes him seem very creepy. and he's talking about criminal conduct in a sense. but here you have the family that's showing love and support for a person who is giving the image of being rehabilitated and so that could be sympathetic to the jury, and that's why the prosecutors maybe felt like they had to say something to try to defuse that, to say that's something separate from whether or not he's criminally guilty of the alleged right, which they're trying to say, don't look at who's in the room. it's not about the case, but is defense attorney abbe lowell as devin was referring to, said during his closing closing statement that hallie biden, who was bows wife, who at one point, as hundred talking about was hit dated hunter after beau's death, did something incredibly stupid. that's how abbe lowell put it when she threw out hunter biden's gun and your source, with the things you do for love in that instance, is that a good move with this jury? >> do you think i guess the context here is they were nodding off during his 90 minute closing all right. so i think he might need to say certain things to try to charge them up and focus back in on

him. but that's especially using that kind of language against hallie biden that could come across as a sexes trope to identify her as such. and then the defendant is not somebody who's engaging in stupid but the woman someone exactly. and with that many women on the jury, it's not a good move and it's just wide wave and say something like that. they could just say, look, i don't like this. i don't like this. defense council. i don't trust him and part of his narrative that he's trying to sell me on includes that element in it and that's not persuasive. >> so again, interesting, as evan said, a few of them were nodding off during that closing. one hour of deliberations today, how soon do you think we got a verdict? >> i think we could get the verdict tomorrow and not in the way in which when if you get a very early verdict, you often think it is they're gonna be a guilty verdict. that's just having a manhattan with donald trump. i think the case is very straightforward. it's only a week's worth of testimony for both sides. and the law is very straightforward as well. so

it's three charges all around the same set of facts over lemon day period i think they could come back tomorrow with guilty or acquittal or hung jury, and we surprised that president biden said he would not pardon his son. >> i don't think so. i think that he really has to the ground of that. he needs to be separate from this and that he's trying to restore faith and the justice department and in some ways, our criminal justice system. so for him to suggest anything other than that would be a mistake, right? >> right. all right. thank you very much, ryan. next, we have breaking news of massive protests breaking out tonight across one of america's major allies after the far right is pulled off, a major and historic victory could this be a warning sign for biden meet the ceo taking on apple's tim cook and winning. and what he's creating. wait till you see it changed the world this election seasons stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. >> and the best political team in the business follow the

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donc swa less some blurriness, you macone immediately dissolving french parliament and calling for snap elections in france. so this is young the decision is serious, a hard one he said, but it is above all, an act of confidence, confidence in you, my fellow citizens the call came is the far-right as somone, as soon as one around twice as many votes in the election as macron's party sluggish economies in many european countries and the migration crisis similar to the southern border in the us, where the top issues for voters across europe many of the right-wing parties gaining ground, also sympathetic to russian leader vladimir putin like my thinking lappin of the asam, the mona's you now, who's been a kremlin out? for years. >> they processor. so this premier, the french have spoken and this historic election shows that when the people vote, the people, when she said in germany, chancellor olaf

scholz's party also suffered a beat down coming in third behind the right-wing alternative for germany or afd, the afd with big gains even after their main candidate claimed there were decent people and hitler's buffon, ss and employed and accused a chinese spy in his office during the election campaign we had a bumpy start to the election campaign and then really caught up in the final sprint, the party chairman said after all the prophecies of dual after the barrage of the last weeks, we are the second strongest force europe's far-right, often skeptical of relations with the us. will be a strong force in europe's parliament, hungry. and one of former president donald trump's strongest allies in europe viktor orban of hungary, also an eu skeptic at a strong show i guess to sum up the results of the european parliamentary election, we can send in a telegram to brussels

saying migration, stop gender, stop the war, stop soro, stop russell's stop. he said and aaron in various european countries, the centrist forces lost ground to those far-right parties and just i'll give you an idea of how dire the situation there isn't some places are here in germany, normally, the green party attracts a lot of young voters, but this time around, the greens actually lost a lot of young voters. >> and many of them went to the right alternative for germany. >> aaron, we'll questions and raising real questions here in the us, fred, thanks. thank you. and i want to go out adjacent van tatenhove. he's a former spokesman for the far-right oath keepers group, testified before the january 6 select committee, and he's also the author of the perils of extremism. how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war well, jason, i'm glad to be speaking with you again because you can put real perspective on this. >> you know, the far-right movement in the united states. >> so well how emboldened are they by what we are now seeing

happened tonight across europe? >> well, i think it does play a part. i think you know, what happens here. >> ripples across the world in that happens back-and-forth those victories are going to be seen as a victory here too, that there's momentum growing and i think we need to take it as kind of a dire warning as to where we really are right now, even with a front runner that is just been found guilty of so many charges it just doesn't seem to matter. >> there's certainly momentum growing you see it as a dire warning. i mean, we have seen jayson to your point a disturbing rise in rhetoric, violent rhetoric and threats since trump was convicted, axios reported another far-right group, the proud boys, wrote in a website hope these jurors face some street justice and don't be surprised, you know, this was going to happen stand back and standby. >> this is far from over. we promise. so stand back and stand by. of course, the words

that trump himself had used in 2020. and someone told the pro-trump right-side broadcasting network, which is something many may not have heard of who watch this program, but it's out there and at a trump rally over the weekend, they said this we're in a, third world nation now. so yeah, i would expect it at some point that like it'll break out into violence. i mean, at this point there yet they're using the courts against their opponents we've seen that before, so we know what's next yeah we're a third world nation now, and i would expect it'll break out into violence what are the threats and the talk of violence that you are seeing and hearing right now that were you most you know, really what worries me most is where it's coming from and my thought process. >> that's from trump this really seems to have evolved past what i would call stochastic terrorism, where you have a message that goes out. it seems to be passing a

threshold where i think really he's just putting out this messaging and if you look at the emails that have been going out last week or so, the rhetoric is getting more extreme it's according that line of direct violent action more and more and unfortunately that audience, there, members of that audience consuming those messages that may take action that looked to be preparing to take action and that's a very concerning to me. >> when you say looked to be preparing to take action, do you really believe that there is sort of i don't know how organized you would describe it as, but that there really are those preparations that stand back and stand, stand back and stand by i think we would be foolish not to take them at their word i think that absolutely there we saw kind of an evolution of tactics after

january 6 and during the prosecution's that happened with the people involved where it kinda it moved away from these, these big national groups and big national events to hyperlocal going after the drag storytelling hours and such. >> but now i think we're seeing a shift again where we're going back and there is a reorganization happening and i think we're going to see more coming from that national, those national groups that they are definitely ready to reappear. >> i will jason, i appreciate your time sobering warning. as you say, a dire warning that you're putting out are but thank you. >> next, a secret new recording of justice samuel alito, plus i'm going to speak to the former new jersey governor, christine todd whitman. she put her reputation on the leinz. she endorsed alito during his confirmation hearing. she was the one there her face was out there. does she now regret it plus apple trying to play catch

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the other there can be the way of working our. >> way of living together, please it's different because there are differences. one fundamental things that really it's not like what the difference this comes as a leader was embroiled in controversy after the new york times reported that an upside down american flag flew outside his home in northern virginia in january 2021. >> it was, of course, a standard flat a standard bearer of january 6 protesters, as well as the second flag, one carried by the insurrectionist on january 6, it flew outside his vacation homes. so two different flags, both used on that day, out front now for republican governor of new jersey, christine todd whitman, who introduced alito at his confirmation hearing back in 2006. recommended him to the senate judiciary committee. so

governor whitman, i really appreciate your time and obviously it's been a long time, nearly 20 years since you did that and you publicly vouched for alito you spoke out for him? and now time has passed and you see him things he has done. you see his defiance admits this flag controversy. >> does this make you see him differently or regret your support? absolutely. without question i mean, i was willing to support him because i looked back at his record and when i was appointing justices particularly the supreme court or any of the judge's. what i look for is how many times said they've been overturned? did they write clear opinions and were they able to judge cases based on the facts presented to them in that case. and i actually saw a case that judge alito had actually had decided in favor of a plaintiff. it was clearly against what his personal convictions were relative to the matter of choice send abortion. and so my

feeling was okay, he's shown that he will put aside his personal convictions to judge and decide a case based on the facts presented in that case unfortunately, since he's gone to the supreme court, that's just seemed to have gone by the wayside. >> yeah. i mean, obviously i wrote that wrote that opinion in roe v. >> wade in the letter to congress about the flag, alito said his wife flew the upside down flag because she was greatly distressed. those were his words by disputes with a neighbor and explaining his wife's motivation to fly the flag. he wrote, quote, house on the street displayed a sign attacking her personally a man who was living in the house at the time trailed her all the way down the street and buried her in my presence using foul language, including what i regard as the violet epithet that can be addressed to a woman. now, i spoke to emily baden. she was the neighbor and the dispute she put up the sign alito refers to which he said didn't refer to mrs. alito at all her husband are now husband is demand and alito mentioned in the statement, but she by the way, was the one who used the epithet in alito's

presence. it was not her husband, as he said, but i want to play for you, governor, specifically, something crucial. she told me about alitos claim about the flag i just want to emphasize that the interaction that happened on february 15th is the one that they're using as an excuse for why they flew the flag. and i really want to hammer home the fact that that happened on february 15, and their flag went up two or three weeks before that, at best, he's mistaken, but at worst he's just outright lying the flag was flying before the altercation that alito says was the reason that the flag was put up, right? >> that's what she lays out very clearly. he wrote his version of things, governor in a letter to congress you're not allowed to lie to congress or they're serious penalties to that should he address this contradiction? >> well, first of all, it gets very tired and you see these

guys pulling their wives. i mean, khan really it besides it is disrespectful of the united states of america. that's america slag it's not if you have a controversy with your neighbor, you deal with it with your neighbor, call the police if you want, use the courts, he should know about that. but you don't fly the american flag upside down. and as you mentioned before, it's a very clear signal two people who were part of the insurrection, and then how does he explain the other flag at their, at their other home? i mean, is his wife just doing that without his knowing and without his caring. when you assume a role like such as the supreme court justice you have a certain standard. you set a message, you set a standard for the entire court. the court comes under scrutiny when this kind of thing happens as it has already anyway, for a couple of other issues and they're having and the lack of it seems standards while his wife, isabel, quite for my wife is

fond of flying flags i am not. my wife was solely responsible yeah. >> you find that jarring really? yeah. come on. man up at least. and if your wife did it, you should have seen it when you walked in the door and said, that's got to come down and then make an apology. say that was all a mistake. but say she put it up upside down by mistake for pete's sakes, but you don't you don't ignore it. let it hang and let the other one fly as well. you deal with them immediately. you're held to a different level of it. this is just a basic thing. i don't care whether it's a supreme court justice or not. that is so disrespectful to the, to the american flag. >> i mean, he won't rigueur some january 6 related cases he did write an opinion in 2021, actually, for the supreme court about a flag outside boston city hall. >> and in it he said that anybody who is looking at it would conclude that all of those flags convey some message on the government's behalf. he wrote that he was saying, if you fly a flag outside the

boston city hall, people are assumed that's the view of the boston city hall government. >> but yet when it comes to himself, he says, it's my wife's fall it is their real hypocrisy. >> there is one statement oh, absolutely. >> i think it's very clear the unfortunate thing is, no one seems to really care and it doesn't appear is if the chief justice is going to do anything about it i mean, they've adopted supposedly standards of content of conduct, but they're going to be judging themselves and somebody inside they're gonna be looking at each other to say what's appropriate and clarence thomas is a whole another issue. so the court right now is not in the best odor, shall we say with the american people and the real tragedy here is that when the american people lose faith and the justice system, we're going to really dangerous place. and we shouldn't, we shouldn't be here. it's not a good place to be. we have to have faith in our justices we have to assume

that they are going to judge cases based on those facts before them in that case. and to have this kind of thing going on on the outside is undermining and demeaning to the court itself. >> all right. well, governor whitman, i appreciate your time and thank you my pleasure next it started with three friends in a denny's and now their company is worth more than apple. that's right, more than apple today, the iphone maker tried to play catch up. i'll give you the inside story when the competition is it's a nuclear competition, spying is extraordinarily important the russians were trying to spy on us. we were spying on them it's very difficult to determine whom you can trust i was studying right everything got out of control this is a war the secret was secrets and

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