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business if you ever miss an episode of the lead, you can listen to the show once you get your podcasts happening now, breaking news, hunter biden's historic guilty verdict on three felony gun charges, becoming the first child of a sitting us president to face conviction we're getting new reaction from the defense team. >> the special counsel, the first family, and the trump campaign, plus new tails, new details are emerging from donald trump's probation interview that could weigh on judge juan merchan, sentencing decision. what trump told officials about a firearm, he didn't turn over to police he's after his indictment. and what that means potentially, now that he's a convicted felon also tonight, secret audio recordings to taken by a liberal activist are raising new questions about the neutrality of the us supreme

court. justice samuel alito's comments about religion are raising eyebrows welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm will blitzer a year in the situation room the skis cnn breaking news the breaking news tonight that president biden in delaware right now after a jury convicted his son, hunter biden on federal gun charges, are chief legal affairs correspondent paula reid has the latest developments of the conclusion of this historic trial president joe biden's son, hunter, left federal court in wilmington, delaware today, a convicted felon, a jury of six men and six women, took less than three hours to find him guilty on three counts related to a 2018 gun purchase a few jurors spoke to cnn after court adjourned. >> one question, whether the case should have been brought

in the first place, saying it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars, but another juror told cnn that this was a legitimate pursuit. do you think that this was a legitimate use of taxpayer resources to bring this case? >> yes. >> i do believe it, despite feeling badly for hunter and his battles with addiction, the 12 jurors agreed that they had no choice but to convict all 12 jurors vid agree that yes, he know on lng bought a gun when he was an attic or he was addicted to drugs and the jurors interviewed by cnn said politics played no role in their decision. pressure, inviting never really even came in to play for me. >> his name was only brought up one store in the trial. and that's when that's when it kind of sunk and a little bit. but you kind of put that out of your mind president biden released a statement after his

son's verdict saying, in part i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill, and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. >> and i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal, hunter also issued a statement after court thanking his wife and supporters saying, i am more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from melissa, my family, my friends, and my community, than i am disappointed by the outcome. special counsel, david weiss made are rare statement defending the case ultimately, this case was not just about addiction a disease that haunts families across the united states, including hunter biden's family. >> this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction this conviction comes to the possibility of a decades

in prison, hundreds thousands of dollars in fines. >> but that is the upper range of sentencing possibilities. it is widely expected here that hunter biden would face something far last. one of the jurors that we spoke with today said he doesn't believe that hunter biden should go to jail at all. but the decision ultimately rests with the judge and we'll find out what she decided hi, is worn back here likely in october for sentencing. there is no date set at this point, but it is expected that it will happen before election day. >> wolf hall, rita, delaware for us. thank you very much. i want to go to the white house right now. that's where cnn's kayla tausche is standing by kayla. what more can you tell us about how president biden is handling this? conviction? >> well well, if we can say that president biden is handling this emotionally and with his family in person. although the biden family has in the past, sought privacy during events related to hunter's legal battles. but today, choosing a very public show of support at the delaware air national guard. where you

saw president biden in hugging hunter, hugging his wife, melissa biden, and giving a kiss on the head to bone melissa's toddler son hunter and melissa's toddler son, beau. before hunter greeted the secret service members and many white house staff members before getting into his own car. and leaving that scene. but this of course comes as president biden is seeking to wear two hats, one of both dad and president. and in that role of president earlier in the day, he delivered remarks at a gun safety event every for gun safety is gun sense university where he was talking about all of the new protections put in place by a bipartisan gun law that he and members of congress, a promoted back in 2022 following the uvalde school shooting. and he was expected to announce a high volume of doj prosecution's on new gun crimes under that law totaling more than 500. that statistic appeared in a doj press release, but it did not appear in the president's remarks, the white house, when asked about why not? they chose

instead to point to the overarching message that president biden delivered. there. now, as for what happens next, president biden has already been asked about the powers of clemency that he possesses as president and whether he would seek a pardon for his son. he has said no. here's how that response came in. >> will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. >> you have? >> he was not asked about a potential commutation of a potential sentence, but the sentencing is currently expected to take place in the weeks before the election. wolf kayla tausche at the white house for a scalar. >> thank you. i want to dig deeper right now with our legal and political experts and uncus khardori or former federal prosecutor, i'll start with you. what do you make of this fascinating, fascinating information? we've learned at least so far from jurors about how they reached this guilty verdict. >> well, you may think it's a testament to their honesty that

the president's status as our commander in chief, apparently, i did not weigh into their deliberations in any serious way. i do share the view of one of the jurors who described this as a potential waste of taxpayer money but nevertheless, that juror voted to convict hunter biden understanding evidently that it's not that person's decision to decide whether or not the case should have been brought. but it was brought. they judge the evidence and reach the conclusion that i think what but as largely unavoidable, jamal, let me get your thoughts. jamal simmons is with us. hunter biden, of course, is not a candidate. he's just the president's son. so what do you think the actual political impact of this conviction could be? >> i don't think that's going to be that ghraieb political impact. most people are not going to be swayed by this because most people have had some experience with their lives as the tragedy of addiction and gone down the road of what happens if people

and their families who are addicted. so on one hand, you've got the president's on who? who is an addict, two substances on the other hand, you've got a former president who has been convicted of 34 counts of hiding hush money payments to as pornstar mistress to keep her from going public during the midst of a presidential campaign. they're not the same thing. i think most voters know that alyssa farah griffin is also with us. alyssa, i want you in our viewers to listen to the house speaker mike johnson's reaction earlier today to this verdict. listen to this mr. speaker you've been saying two tier system of justice for some time here's the president's son being convicted on three counts as that undercut your client doesn't every case is different and clearly the evidence is overwhelming here. i don't think that's the case and the trump trials and all the so charts that have been brought against them have been obviously brought for political purposes. a hunter biden is a separate instance does this verdict elicit take the steam out of the republicans baseless claims about the weaponization

of the us justice department of course, while it absolutely undercuts said just taking a step back, we're in uncharted territory here were the same department of justice that indicted donald trump in the mar-a-lago documents case. and in the january 6 case, also, just convicted the sitting president son of a crime through a jury. this, if anything underscores that our justice system works without fear or favor despite the imperfections of it, it is something that works to be objective and i think it dramatically undermines this claim that it's a weaponized system. if you're an undecided voter, who'd wasn't really sure what to make of the trump conviction. you her on the one side on the right, that this was a weaponization and on the left that no jury of his peers found him guilty. you're seeing this and i think you're saying, oh, wait, the system does seem to work regardless of who's who the name of the person that is on trial on kirsha, you were in the courtroom my for much of this trial hunters sentences seeing as we know, will likely take place in the fall before

the election. how much time, if any, is he read? get elastically, realistically looking at and does he have a chance on appeal look, i would think he would be looking realistically at potentially months in prison if the prosecutors decide to seek a prison term and the judge is seriously considering it that would be consistent with sort of a first-time offender in this space. >> i'm sure he will be arguing for a probation and he would have a good claim to probation given his history and the uniqueness of this prosecution. but i think at the sort of the extreme he would looking at months, not not multiple years in terms of its appeal prospects, look, i do think he has a colorable appeal here based on his argument that the second amendment basically renders this prosecution unconstitutional and a prohibition if not, generally speaking, then as applied to him unconstitutional. i have no idea how that issue will be resolved, but the supreme court has issued some very pro gun rulings in this area. and if you were to follow the logic of the bruin decision to a t,

there is a pretty good argument here. the laws under which biden was convicted are also unconstitutional as applied to him under the second management, two very interesting jamal or the timing of the verdict today created a rather bizarre optics situation with the president biden delivering a previously scheduled speech, speech about gun safety. >> what just hours after his son was convicted? i'm felony gun charges. the white house also later canceled the daily press briefing. is this a bad look for the administration? what do you think listen, it's a bad day for the immigration. >> but more importantly, it's a bad day for the president and for his son, but it's a bad day in a personal way, not really one about the administration and its policies. the president's policies aren't guns have been clear for a long time. he passed the assault weapons ban. but it's gonna go back to something we were at a minute ago with alyssa can you imagine a world where obama prosecutor, when after don junior or ivanka trump, while barak, while,

while donald trump was president, and he allowed that prosecutor to go after them, indict them, see them committed, can see them convicted, and then said he would not he would not pardon i can't imagine that world we all know. that's probably not the case down from what i think we just lost. we just lost. that has a commitment to the rule of law that we just have never seen before. >> guard jamal stem by alyssa, the trump campaign statement reads in part, and i'm quoting well, we read it. this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family. >> is this verdict something that trump campaign can seize on politically? >> what do you think? >> so, i actually see this totally different than jamal does. i actually think this could be a boon for biden. it certainly doesn't help trump. and i think this sort of the statement afterwards spoke to the fact that if anything, it proves this point that the system is not weaponized, that donald trump's own conviction

was legitimate. 52% of americans approve of the conviction, as many as 16% approve of the trump conviction. so when you start filling in those realities electorally, knowing donald trump's name is the ballot, not hunter biden's. i think they're realizing that this might undercut his biggest vulnerability, which is the fact that he is the first convicted felon to be running for president. >> all right. good point to all of you. thank you very, very much. just add we're getting new developments that are coming in right now. donald trump's life as a convicted felon, including an effort to find and sees an outstanding firearm registered to the former president. we have details on what we're learning that's coming up plus secret records go public. a member of the us supreme court and his wife coming under scrutiny right now for new comments. stay with us. you're in the situation room the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> the president and the former president, one stage two, very

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state on may 30, donald trump has been a felon in possession of a firearm now, you don't have to have that firearm on you. it just has to be somewhere where you have what they call constructive possession, where you have access to it, whether it's locked away or not but that would be a serious violation of not just a us federal law, but also florida state law for a convicted felon. now, let's set that aside for a minute authorities say this is a complicated defendant he lives a complicated existence. he doesn't carry weapons, he's guarded by secret service. but this is a detail that they want to resolve and make sure that that gun is accounted for all right. good reporting. thanks very much. john for that report. let's discuss this and get some analysis from former federal prosecutor, at least adamson and cnn, senior law enforcement analyst charles ramsey. elise could trump's admission that he still holding onto this gun impact potentially his sentencing. it's coming up. what july 11,

how soon does he have to turn this gun in? >> well, that's a good question. well, if i think technically he should have already turned this gun in as was just reported donald trump was convicted of a felony. and so at this time, he would be considered a felon in possession of the firearm her arm. now, new york has a very clear road map to how a defendant needs to surrender their firearms post-conviction, it's a little bit different when we're talking about federally or other jurisdictions, when the conviction happen elsewhere however the by the letter of the law, once he is convicted, he can no longer be in possession. so it is odd to me that todd blanche would have sat there as he made this admission and not thought of this before the interview, we need more information when he says it's in florida, is it it is, house. did he surrender it? where is it? but assuming argue window, it's in mar-a-lago. that's a potential problem now, directly to your question,

will as to whether or not it will impact sentencing. again, it's the facts and circumstances is the former president holding onto the firearm and just refusing to relinquish it. i think that would be a data point. the judge merchan would take into consideration, but is this really just a case of figuring out how to surrender it or is he in the process of transferring ownership? all of those details we will matter. come sentencing day. >> chief ramsey, as you know, in new york official said this information will be passing along to florida police to quote, and i'm quoting now, take whatever steps are necessary if trump doesn't voluntarily return his gun what are 30s do you believe have to step in well, you know, i think not at this has come to light that they'll work toward getting that gun. >> he's not supposed to be in possession of the gun. he is a convicted felon. but this is a situation where, you know, he's really living in two different places. i mean, he spends a lot about a time in new york, also in florida. the

one gun is in florida and now he had two others that he surrendered last year shortly after he was indicted so he's already given up to the guns. this is the one that's outstanding i really find it hard to believe that they would not make every effort i tried to turn that in as soon as possible he leases trump potentially at risk of being criminally charged for illegally possessing a firearm yeah. so i don't think he is now, again technically, could they charge him perhaps if the circumstances are correct, if it is in mar-a-lago, if it is within his constructive possession, then yes. it's a very serious charge. they could charge him federally i just looked into it prior prior to speaking with you, it carries a term of a potential ten years in prison of slightly old statistic. but from 2021, the united states sentencing commission said 96.9% of

defendants charged with that crime. we're we're sentenced to prison. so very, very serious, risky, which is why i don't know hawaii todd blanche would have not made sure that the gun was surrendered to authorities prior to the psi, but very unlikely because he's still in between the conviction and sentencing. and there isn't a clear legal requirement of when and how he surrenders the gun in florida? >> chief ramsey are the former police chief here in washington dc, former police commissioner in philadelphia is trump getting more leeway right now or is it standard for convicted felons to take time to return their guns? >> well, is that standard for convicted felons to take time to turn into gun i've not aware of that occurring with any degree of frequency, but i do think that they will make some allowances to give him an opportunity to turn the gun in i'd be surprised if that doesn't happen. now, he is guarded as john miller said, by secret service 24 hours a day,

seven days a week, he has a nice guy mean, he's got butt a rest of his life. he will have that kind of protection. and so there's a lot going on. this is unprecedented. we've never had a formal former president convicted of anything. and so now this is just one of those things. it's very serious. i'm not trying to make light of it, but i would doubt very seriously if this is going to be something that's going to go beyond a day or two before that gun is located, turned in chief ramsey. thanks very much. at least adam sinned. thanks to you as well. just ahead, the us supreme court back in the spotlight today. here, what two justices are heard saying and secret recordings. i'm controversial topics this election season, staley with cnn, with more reporters on the ground. >> and the best political team in the business follow the voters follow the results, follow the facts follow. >> cnn dan made progress with

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where he also addresses the current polarization of the country i know that we can go for the polar i think it is a matter of like the winning. i think you're probably right now one side or the other, one side or the other i don't know. there can. be a way of working, our way of living together it's different because there are differences one fundamental things that while you can it's not like what the difference this society condemned the secret recordings, saying attendees are advised not to discuss anything from the event. windsor defended her actions today in an interview with cnn there's nothing illegal in dc about recording people so long as one person is a party to that conversation, to people

who want to pearl-clutchers about this yeah. >> please tell me how we're going to get answers when the supreme court has been shrouded in secrecy. and really just refusing any degree of accountability whatsoever. >> cnn has not independently obtained or heard the recordings in full, but they come after recent ethics concerns involving the court including controversial flags flown at homes of justice alito, flags that the justice said were put up by his wife martha, and alito also heard on the audio where she addressed the flag controversy head-on know what i want. >> i want sacred heart of jesus glad because i had to look across the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. >> exactly. >> and he's like, oh, please don't put up a flag. i can i won't do it because i'm deferring to you. >> but when you are free of this nonsense, i'm pulling it up and i'm going to send i'm a message every day, maybe every

week. >> i'll be changing the flags. >> windsor also secretly recorded chief justice john roberts, who rebuffed her when she made a case for a more christian society we live in a christian nation r3 court to be guiding well that we live in a christian nation. >> i know a lot of jewish and muslim friends who would say maybe not and it's not our job to do that job to decide the cases, especially and so far, no comment on these secret recordings from the supreme court or from the justices, or from justice alito's wife. >> now the supreme court historical society, they hosted this dinner where the recordings were made. this is a yearly event and it's held inside the court building. were members of the society are allowed to buy tickets for themselves. and one guest. and then of course, the gathering provides members this rare access to the justices, as we saw in the secret recordings, wolf, it'll be interesting to see if any of their rules change hinge after the secret

recording. >> yes, it will. let's see if that happens. jessica schneider. thank you very much. i want to discuss this with our cnn legal analyst, steve vladeck. he's a professor at the university of texas school of law. steve, do you see these comments from justice alito specifically inappropriate. and is it reasonable to question his impartiality? >> wolf, i think what i'm struck by in those recordings is the contrast between justice alito, who you know, for better, for worse, took the bait and who had no problem expressing views on subjects that you probably shouldn't have versus what we heard from chief justice roberts, which is basically what they teach in judge school, ought to be the answer when judges are asked to weigh in on contemporary political debates. so i think justice alito's remarks are probably right up, if not over the line, wolf, the problem is putting them in context where this is not a one-off, where we're seeing so many examples of justice alito saying things like it's in public suggesting that he has very strong

political views and that he's having a hard time checking those at the door. well, i think it's the aggregation of all of these public statements by justice alito. that's really the source of the cause for concern, as its name. >> this is the second controversy involving a martha-ann alito, ginni thomas, also as let's face questions about her political activities. >> so how does that impact perceptions of the us supreme court yeah. >> i mean, i think there's no question that it has some bearing on public perception of the court. i mean, we really ought not to be judged by the actions of our spouses that certainly my wife's position about me. but i do think it's worth stressing that the real question here is not can justice x participant in case why the real question is, are the justices behaving in a way that is enhanced in public faith in the integrity of the court as an institution or not. and so for as much as justice alito has tried to just that the entire flag controversies

are basically his wife's fault i think his responses have not suggested that he is especially concerned about the message that the flak sent. his responses at the supreme court historical society suggested he's not particularly concerned about being publicly associated with deeply, intensely divisive political comments and so wolfe, i think again, the question is whether if you look at this as a whole there's reason to worry not about individual justices in individual cases, but about whether there are justices on the supreme court who really do cede part of their job as picking a side and who are karam about winning versus what we heard from chief justice roberts, which is their job is to basically toe the line politically and decide the cases before them. we don't expect the justices to be saints, but we do expect them to at least appear publicly as if they are completely uninvestigated. and i think that's the concern that all of this behavior by justice alito, by justice thomas, by their

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free lmx with purchase per deals end sue i'm alex mark part in washington and this is cnn breaking news, the gaza ceasefire talks are in turmoil tonight after hamas responded to a us back proposal, which the israelis have characterized as a rejection of the framework. cnn international security correspondent kalisa out when is traveling with secretary of state antony blinken in the region. she has all the latest on the negotiations tonight, a high-stakes life and death waiting game heats up in the middle east, hamas has responded to the latest ceasefire proposal for israel, but more talks are now expected

as an effort to set piece into motion i don't think. >> anyone other than the hamas leadership in gaza actually are the ones who can make make decisions that's what we're waiting on. >> secretary of state, antony blinken, who is traveling in the region, said that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment to the current deal on the table that was detailed in speech 11 days ago by president biden. the pressure now increasingly on one man alone who started this war and could end it yahya sinwar, the military leader of hamas sinwar helped mastermind the horrific october 7 attacks and is suspected to be hiding out in the tunnels under gaza exactly where is unknown are fresh report out today from the wall street journal, details, messages between sinwar and hamas officials participating in the ceasefire talks in doha. the exchanges show that the terrorists leader thinks he may have the upper hand in the current negotiations. quote, we

have the israelis right where we want them, sinwar allegedly said in recent messages, these stunning messages, which cnn cannot independently verify, reveal his frame of mind this war drags into its ninth month with the palestinian death toll climbing sinwar row quote, these are necessary sacrifices, and this is why us officials believe sinwar has had little incentive to broker a deal, not only with israel, refuse to stop fighting, but the pressure will continue to mount on israel daily, which sinwar believes is to his benefit. these israeli military responded to these messages saying quote, hamas leaders don't care about gazans. how many times did they have to say it for themselves before the world believes them? and as blinken continues to push for a deal that could eventually end the war, he took aim at sinwar. >> are they looking after one guy? you may be for now safe, very i don't know ten stories underground somewhere in gaza while the people that he purports to represent can you

to suffer in a crossfire of his own making or will he do what's necessary to actually move this to a better place now the early response from israel, wolf is not setting a tone of positive momentum here, according to cnn contributor barak or veto israeli official characterize the response coming from hamas as a rejection of the hostage deal that was put on the table according to another source that hamas put forth multiple proposed amendments, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and complete israeli withdrawal from gaza. >> of course, it making it clear that that permanent ceasefire, which israel has resisted coming to any sort of agreement that it would lock it into a permanent ceasefire remains a sticking point tomorrow. we'll see what secretary of state says on this as the us has not given, it's evaluation yet, will critically sensitive moment right now, kylie atwood in amman, jordan

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department. but does that potentially approach does that approach come with some risks? >> i think gestures, growling, attorney general garland is a patriot. i mean, he's a judge. he's devoted his life to public service. he started out at the justice farm to he's standing up for the civil servants. most of the people at the justice department are not political appointees. and he's saying, let's administer the rule of law fairly don't attack them on another issue, a hunter biden's felony gun conviction. >> today, you sit on the house oversight committee shortly after the verdict, your committee chairman james comer, said, and i'm quoting him now until the department of justice investigates everyone involved in the bidens corrupt influence, peddling deems it will be clear department officials continue to cover for the big guy joe biden. how do you respond to the committee chairman? >> it said that he's politicizing this look, the verdict is very sad. a hunter biden faced addiction jenny

overcame addiction and the president has said that he respects the process, but this has nothing to do with what comer is invested one was about that covered know wrongdoing. and i think most americans will say, we know someone who suffered addiction. we understand that and it's just a sad situation. >> do you think hunter biden's conviction congressman, will have any political impact on the president no. >> other than showing the american people that a, he follows the rule of law. you haven't heard him criticized the judge. you haven't heard him criticize the jury. and be his loving father, and that he really cares and respects and admires a son who's overcome addiction, went through incredible grief at the loss of his brother. and he is a decent father let me quickly turn while i have you congressmen to the israel-hamas war, the us backed ceasefire plan appears to be in turmoil right now as mediators are parsing through hamas his response and push for

prime minister netanyahu to publicly sign on what we're leveraged. >> does the us have to get each side closer to accepting a deal? >> well, the united states i think has laid out a very reasonable, pragmatic position on a permanent ceasefire, one that i wholeheartedly support. i hope hamas except said even if sin, sinwar is an accepting and maybe the other hamas leadership will accept it. it's going to save pelosi allies and i hope netanyahu hello, accepts it because it is the only way to get the hostages out. and it's the only way to start to bring peace in that region and have new governance and palestine with the saudis, uae, jordan, and egypt the president has been right and putting this forward. and i hope secretary blinken will prevail on both hamas and israel we shall see congressman ro khanna. thank you so much for joining us and we'll be right back the most anticipated moment of this election. >> and the stakes couldn't be

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donald trump was asked his thoughts about pop superstar taylor swift. trump gushed saying quote, i think she's beautiful, very beautiful. i find her very beautiful trump then digressed saying, i think she's liberal. she probably doesn't like trump, but then he went back to talk talking about swift's appearance, quote, i think she's very beautiful, actually unusually beautiful. >> these are very donald trump quo, you know, he obviously doesn't know much about taylor swift. so it's easy for him just to turn and look at her looks and comment on what she looks like one democratic strategist says, this could be a case of trump trying to get on the good side of the wildly popular singer. i think that he doesn't want to upset the swifties. i think we all know what happens when that when we awake a giant of the swifties. >> this comes as many in the political sphere are wondering, will swift endorsed joe biden as she did in 2024 years, analysts say swift was reluctant to get into politics or data it was really scared for her to step into the political arena because we know

that comes with a lot of backlash no matter which side you're on in 2018, swift finally jumped in endorsing to democratic congressional candidates in tennessee, where she owns property, hoping that i know is right. >> and you guys i need to be on the right side of history in a netflix documentary about her swift is captured in an argument with her father about getting involved in politics. >> she was critical of republican marsha blackburn, who ended up winning that senate race in tennessee. she votes against against fair pay for women. she boats against the re-authorization of the violence against women act, which is just basically protecting us for divest to abuse and stocking stocking political analysts say both trump and biden need to cultivate the taylor swift voting demographic. >> this is one of the more popular entertainers and musicians in the world right now. and it comes at a time where both candidates are also fighting for that younger vote for the younger generation some trump supporters may already be skeptical of taylor swift and

her politics in january pro-trump broadcasters and politicians put out conspiracy theories implying that the nfl had rigged games and favor of the kansas city the chiefs to promote swift and travis kelce and give them a platform to endorse president biden, none of which of course, was even remotely close to being true. >> wealth. >> how instrumental has taylor swift been in getting out the vote? >> this is why the biden and trump campaigns both want her on their side, wolf last year in september, she put out a message on instagram asking young people to register to vote according to tracking agencies. as a result of that in just one day, about 35,000 people registered to vote. that's how much sway she has especially among younger voters, trump and biden both desperate for that demographic. >> very interesting, i, brian tied reporting for us. thank you very much. brian. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. i'll see you tomorrow morning, 11:00 a.m. eastern for cnn newsroom. and of course, back here in the situation room, 6:00 p.m. eastern until then? once again, thanks for watching. erin burnett outfront sta