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airports we've rushed to getting, there, getting out how many hours have we waited? how many calls have you made how much could jolene and talking? how did you come to know me so well time passes and memories fade. but i hope i never forget all that we've shared and all that you've been will forever be to me trolley and i spend more than a month reporting from new orleans and the gulf coast and the difficult days after hurricane katrina the last show we did was from a badly damaged street and it was all deserted and it was charlie and mean maybe seven or eight others cameramen and engineers and satellite truck operators we've finished around midnight. we broke down the equipment, we wrapped up the cables are other people did neal halls worth one of my cameraman took out some beers from the cooler on his truck and pass them around we lingered there for time talking, remembering the things we'd all just lived through, not wanting that feeling. we
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had to end, but it had to everything does charlie and i got into our car and we drove through the pitch black streets and we didn't speak we didn't need to i'm very thankful. the trolley is still going to be at cnn, but i'll miss that feeling. driving in the dark, heading toward a new adventure side-by-side with charlie the news continues right here on cnn outright next trump. rants behind closed doors as the gop gets in line behind him, the senate majority leader, chuck schumer raise my exclusive guest here in our studio tonight. and j.d. vance now on trump's vp shortlist, new kfile reporting tonight chose he liked tweets, calling trump a monster. a quote, douchey celebs. and that's just the beginning. plus president biden breaking his silence on his son's conviction, saying for the first time he will not commute a prison sentence. let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. trump behind closed doors, ranting today, we are
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told about taylor swift and nancy pelosi. now, this was what he chose to do on his first trip to capitol hill since the insurrection. >> here's what he said. >> this was a great meeting. this tremendous unity and the republican party, this is an outstanding group of people. i'm with them 1,000% there was me, 1,000%. we agreed just about on everything. and if there isn't, we work it out those are his comments after and, you know, when he talks about this thousand percent think about this, the republican leader mitch mcconnell, who had said trump was responsible for january 6. today, shook the hand of the former president and called the meeting, quote entirely positive. a lot of weight on that adjective. >> and he was far from alone and supporting trump's grievances restoration over the file. >> you can imagine justify is my view, pointed out that this is a it's a terrible thing and i i agree it's a terrible thing
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now, according to a source in the room, in addition to complaining about the legal situation, trump also took on other enemies at one point, he called former speaker nancy pelosi's daughter a wacko, saying she wants told him that he and nancy pelosi would have had a quote, great romance in another life, uploads his daughter denies the interaction, but there were a couple of new things that happened in this room for trump. first, he actually tried to calm down tension with his own party. he tried to connect congressmen, marjorie taylor greene and house speaker mike johnson here's how she put it he saw me in there and he was like, hello marjorie, he's always so sweet and recognizes me and he said, are you being nice? >> he was joking in nicest speaker johnson. and i said and he said, okay, be nice to him and i'm not in my head all right. >> so that was the first thing trying to, you know, instead of sowing discord actually create some sort of peace but second, trump talked policy and front and center on that was
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abortion. blocking his own party, urging republicans not to quote be two radical when it comes to abortion he said that abortion is left now into the hands of the people. and that we need to talk about and correctly though, that he pushed for exceptions for rape decimate life of the mother republicans have paid a steep price in elections since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade, and they have paid that steep price even in deeply red states. and democrats now want to insure it costs republicans again in november today, they forced to vote in the senate on a bill that would guarantee access to in vitro fertilization nationwide. now republicans blocked that bill and the senate majority leader, chuck schumer is here with me for an exclusive interview in just a moment first, so i want to begin with manu raju because he's out front on capitol hill tonight and trump, you know where i'm sorry, monday where trump went for the first time since the insurrection big show of pomp and circumstance stance and unity within the gop. >> was there though manu dissent behind the scenes.
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there really was not inside. i asked many republican members in the house and the senate, including some of the critics of donald trump whether they had any concerns, rather they raised any concerns in the answer uniformly was no in the senate meeting, some of the donald trump's critics did not show up and are susan and collins of maine someone who voted to convict entrepreneurs second, impeachment trial said she had a conflict that was the same reason that senator lisa murkowski gave her. this is just not to show, but some other critics did center mitt romney didn't raise any concerns or didn't speak out. we are told i add that meetings that are bill cassidy, another one who voted to convict, also said it was not awkward to beat there's he believes trump is going to win. so that's why he showed up. and i put that question also two number centers about january sex, as well as whether or not their concerns about how trump acted in january 6 was part of the discussion and they said no did he talk about january 6 little january 6 that come up in the
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house republican many was earning dissension. oh, no, i saw nothing but overwhelming support for president trump. >> no, i didn't. since any dissension, but i didn't catch everybody's response either. >> it was a pep rally environment for president trump. >> he is the leader of the party and he happens to be the guy who was chosen by the overwhelming majority of republicans to be the nominee. >> who are we to say no? >> and one of the key moments too, was his interaction with senate republican leader mitch mcconnell after years of feuding after mcconnell blamed trump i'm very pointedly for what happened on january 6. they have not spoken since december 2020, but we're told that donald trump actually credited mitch mcconnell for his work in trying to move ahead and the elect more republicans, senators that happened according to a source in the room and mcconnell, i asked him about it afterwards. he said it was a very entirely positive meaning. it shook each other's hands but didn't raise any concerns alright.
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>> thank you very much. on capitol hill. and now, is promised the senate majority leader, chuck schumer, is here for an exclusive conversation. so sender, i just want to start there. you heard that the congresswoman, who are we to say no. but mitch mcconnell, you know, him incredibly well, hasn't hasn't met with trump. we understand since december of 2020 goes today comes out, says it's entirely positive shakes hand. >> does that surprise you knowing mcconnell the way you do well, let me just say this. i think there are good number of republicans, mcconnell included who know deepen their hearts and deepen their minds what a danger he is to democracy. and what a disaster it'd be as president. but none of them seem, or very few. a couple didn't show up. as you said, but very few including mecole mcconnell should have had the courage not to show up. he knows i think he knows deepen his heart. what trump is like and what trump would do. >> no, he said those things before so he i guess who are we to say? no in some sense by his actions? >> i want to ask you about the bill today, though. >> this was on ivf, it failed
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ivf in vitro fertilization after the vote, republicans released a state payment and they accused, you, senator and democrats of a summer of scare tactics. and it was senator bill cassidy who said this about the bill today. curious today's what is disingenuous, pushing a bill haphazardly drafted and destined to fail, does a disservice to all who may pursue ivf treatments center k brett, senator ted cruz, they've got their own bill. they're putting out to protect ivf, so they're saying, well, look, we're on the same side of this. we want it to. so democrats block that. so is this a stunt? >> not at all. they're calling it a show vote. it's no, it's a show who you are vote every one of them except the two courageous people who voted the other way. susan collins, lisa murkowski, showed who they were, that they are against ivf. look, they should have been the easiest vote in the world ivf is so important to so many millions of people to be able to have a child personally
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is important to me. i have a grandson who came about through ivf and it's a beautiful thing. but they have the hard right pushing them and so they are afraid to say what the right thing to do is. and they say they tried to say, well, we had a better idea. well, we gave them a chance. we said, just vote to get on the bill and we'll discuss it. they all voted no because things like people like the heritage foundation, susan b. anthony league, even a sudden then baptist convention, they've come out against ivf, who would have thought that would be against so many people would be pushed against ivf, the republican should have had the courage to do the right thing here. they knew what it was, and that's why they're signing these letters and all that. but it's not what they say. >> aaron. it's what they do. it all but two voted no i said maga hard, right so but what i want to understand here because trump has made a clear he supports ivf. >> so have a lot of the ultra
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right maga type republicans. i mean, here are just a few of them after the alabama supreme court ruling, of course, which put this whole issue front and center here they are starting with trump i strongly support the availability of ivf for couples who are trying to have a precious little beautiful baby to wrongly support continued nationwide access to in vitro fertilization. it needs to be legal all across the country and i support ivf pro-life means in pro ivf if they were for it, they should have voted for donald trump should have urged them to vote for it. this was a simple bill that said the right to an ivf procedure should be available to every american. we saw what the alabama supreme court did we've seen these right-wing groups all come against it. and these are the very same people who pushed to get rid of row in the dobbs decision. we know what they're up to. they want
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to get rid of ivf, they're afraid to say it but they're literally lying when they say that. >> i say they are deceiving the american people because they're afraid the hard right wing of the maga republicans will come down on them if they vote and believe me, if they get power they have said they want a national abortion ban. they have said they will follow the mega hard right? no one anymore can believe that they defend any women's reproductive rights after what they've done. and today's vote proved. >> so on this, going away from ivf to the issue actually have abortion. this is an issue where voters, as i pointed out in deeply red states have, again and again voted against abortion restrictions. okay, so trump has taken his party on this issue. we understand that meeting today that he was telling them to back off, that this is not a winning issue. if you go too far right on it, are you worried? liter that he might connect with voters on this, that this could be a breakthrough issue for him if he wants, again, becomes the donald trump who said things like, i don't care what
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bathroom you use there used to be a trump like that. >> arnold trump just a few months ago, brag that he put the three justices on the supreme court who got rid of dobbs. it defend eagle got rid of row and put in dobbs. yeah. donald trump can not be believed. he says one thing, one day, one thing, the next, everything they have done as a party including the dobbs decision through the mega right republican justices, they all voted for right-wing mega justices has been against women's rights. no one leaves gives them, if you ask hm, at the average american, where does the republican party stand on abortion? they'll say they're against it because that's the way they vote all the time. some somebody is saying something today, whether it's trump or another congressman or senator doesn't matter if they're going to vote to get rid of ivf which is what they will do should they get in power today if they had a better bill? aaron we gave them the opportunity to amend that. they said no, they don't even know what the bill does. the same thing. will you
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support it? it doesn't do the same thing. they're bill which ted cruz tried to do because he's running for reelection and he knows where even the voters of texas or doesn't come close to protecting women all right. >> so you mentioned supreme court justices. i want to ask you about justice alito in the flag issue and obviously the two lags, as you know, one at his vacation home, one does home was the upside down flag both were carried by insurrectionist on january 6, he said his wife did it and and and they were they were here she was upset i just want to emphasize that the interaction that happened on february 15th is the one that they're using as an excuse for why they flew the flag. >> and i really want to hammer home the fact that that happened on february 15 and their flag went up two or three weeks before that, at best, he's mistaken, but at worst
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he's just outright lying the supreme court is so, so mired in ethical and scandals the bottom line is very simple justice, chief justice robert has a responsibility to put ethics rules in place to not let them take trips, to not let them get gifts, to not let them deal with the appearance of bias. >> and he's done virtually nothing. he should be a guardian of this court so that americans believe it's equal justice under law and he has disregarded all of this, this what you heard here today, it's just one of many, many examples where the supreme court has lost its moorings in terms of ethics and in terms of projecting being fair word says not done. any of this he supposed to be a guardian the court's let me about a liter, though on this issue when she refers to there was this incident and there were slurs, epithets don't around. there was actually a police report filed that the new york times
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obtain that shows it was on february 15th, the flag was fine for because they got a picture and it was weeks before but this a very serious question about a supreme court justice, even separate from the ethical issues you're talking about is he mistaken or is that just an outright lie? and he wrote this letter laying this out to congress. you're not allowed to lie to congress. looked the bottom line is, as i said, the supreme court has so many ethical issues and it really, we will are working with the speaker or leader durbin of the judiciary committee with sheldon whitehouse to see because can congress has the right to do things for blocked by republicans? most of the time. but roberts has the ability on his own to deal with recusal if there's bias to deal with ethical issues, he hasn't done any of this i want to ask you one other thing about what trump said today. i mentioned at the top of the program and so he he was talking about nancy pelosi, likes to talk about her. he called her daughter a wacko and he said she wants told him that he nancy pelosi would have had a great romance it's another life. >> all right. you know, trump, you've been, you can imagine something like this being said
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but what should we actually sort of thing even now being sent, let's talk about the serious things that happen. the contrast today between the democrats helping protect women's rights and the republicans helping protect what they talked about in their helping protect very wealthy people to get more tax breaks. that's the real contrast. to this party, not trump's gibberish, but what he and they have stood for nine, 80% of the american people want to see the tax system made pharaoh want to see the wealthy pay their fair share, their while we objecting women marker, you know, he got rid of salt and did the largest tax increase based on wealthy new yorkers that they've perhaps ever had salt. >> they, the, the overwhelming majority of his tax cuts went to the wealthiest people. >> very little went to anyone else. when you look at them as a whole, and they went against the blue states because we actually do something to help for people, working people, et cetera. that was not a fair thing to do. overall, the tax rates plummeted down for the
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wealthy. if you made lots of money, you did much more and then they stopped the auditing of all these very wealthy people we're using loopholes. so there make no mistake about it. they are for helping the wealthy pay fewer taxes. and again, i just want to say it once again far more important than trump's gibberish and that is the contrast. the democrats protecting women ends, writes, the republicans protecting the right of the wealthy to more tax breaks, who are the american people going to side with? i'll bet in november they're going to side with us. all right. well, senator, i appreciate your time and thank you very much. great to see or measure. >> all right. next jd vance, the senator vying to be true trump's vp back in 2016, though, it was a totally different person it didn't want to vote for him i might have to hold my nose and vote for hillary clinton that is new reporting from our k filed and president biden says for the first time he will not commute. his son, hunter's sentence sticking it further than not
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better results. >> the cnn presidential debates, june 20, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> tonight, quote, monster, nemesis of the gop ohio senator j.d. vance, a top candidate to be trump's vp publicly agreeing with scathing comments about trump on twitter. vance also calling trump loathsome and kfile tonight uncovering incredibly damaging texts, tweets, and audio advanced trashing, trump over and over again in 2016 and 2017. but what if you did not hear what you're gonna hear from kfile, you might not know any of this because the j.d. vance, you see now is totally different the trump record of peace at home and prosperity that is an incredible thing to run on it. kfile senior editor, andrew kaczynski is with me now to walk through all of this new reporting and andrew, i mean, this is, you know, people some people may remember the j.d. vance felt a different way, but you have uncovered a trove of information of vance's criticism on trump yeah,
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that's right. and we've reported on a j.d. vance's past anti-trump comments before this is somebody who suggested that trump could be america's hitler. he compared him to opium and heroin for the white working class. but before he apologized for those comments when he ran for senate in 2022, with trump's backing. but i think what's really interesting about these, these twitter likes it shows a side of jd vance that we really didn't even necessarily see publicly when he was such a big trump critic because he was this trump he was a public intellectual and people flock to them to sort of explain why trump was doing so well with the white working class. but we, when we see these likes, we see the sort of things that he'd agreed with that he wasn't even going to say publicly and i want to walk our viewers through a few of them. so take a look at this one, and this is from october 2016 this is after the access hollywood tape one public and he liked this tweet that said maybe the
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central park five could take out a full-page ad to condemn the coddling of thug real estate barons who commit serial sexual assault. you liked that too. he liked that tweet then there's this other one. well, from february of 2016, where he liked this picture and it's trump and oj simpson with two women and it says here is a picture of one of the usa's most hated, villainous, douchey celebs also in the picture, oj simpson. and then we also have this one again, which is right after that the access hollywood tape, where he liked a tweet that says does any dad or future dad want to look his daughter in the eye and explain why he voted for trump instead of the first woman president. so there's even indicating some support for clinton there. and in our story, there's actually fleet that he liked suggesting he would might even serve in a clinton administration, which is incredible, by the way, it was around that time he was having had his first child it's
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incredible to realize that this is truly what he felt at its core. >> but it is far from the only thing that he said about trump over the years, right? right. it's far from the only negative trump comment that he made. i did reference a couple of them. in that intro there, and it's really the big hit on j.d. vance because he does check a lot of boxes for trump as a potential vice president. but i want to play some of these comments where people and then show how he's explaining them today. take a listen to a few of them. >> i'm never trump guy. i think there's a chance if i feel like trump has a really good chance of winning, that i might have to hold my nose and vote for hillary clinton. it's not just that donald trump doesn't speak to issues as special concern to minority voters are black voters it's said he seems to like actively antagonizing a lot of the black vote of now, i want people to read what he said to the new york times in an interview that published just actually this morning with ross, do that one of their columnists, he said like a lot of other elite
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conservatives and liberals, i allowed myself to focus so much on the stylistic element of trump that a completely ignored the way in which he substantively was offering something very different on foreign policy, on trade, on immigration. >> and we should probably know he did actually criticize trump at times on policy on trade. and immigration. but i think what's interesting here too is that some of those tweets he liked that one about committing serial sexual assault. that's not really that's not a policy that's a moral judgment and i don't think we've really and that's not stylistic does not set stylistic serial. ricky's implying the man is sexual predator, and i or indicate liking the tweet that imply that, yeah. and i don't think we've really seen him explain that. no. no, not at all. i don't couldn't say that was stylistic. all right. andrew, thank you very much. the latest reporting from andrew and kfile. i want to go out front now to the former republican congressman fred upton on the back of andrews reporting. congressman upton, this kfile report comes the reason this is so important, right? is vance is under serious consideration to possibly be the vp for trump. a person who said he
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would serve it in props like clinton administration, how likely do you think it is that he'll be trump's pick? >> well he's on the top with the short five, i guess you could call it. i don't think the things that he said back in 2016, maybe 2017 really matter much. he's a maga republican he's been as loyal as can be. >> did donald trump and all that is in the past and for given, i don't think he's going to be the vice president. >> i've been wrong before. i think marco rubio, i think at least the phonic i think tim scott are all ahead of him, but he's hizon the shortlist. there's no question about it, but i don't think his comment from 2016 have any bearing in terms of the vetting that trump is doing now he's okay. >> he's an a plus in the trump book right now, you know, it's interesting, i guess you could look at it from two sides congressman, you could look at it if the fact that what it says about trump, that he can get past this if he does. with
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people. and then on the other side of it, someone like j.d. vance, who is an incredibly intelligent person, right? hillbilly elegy, right? this it thoughtful and nuanced person is able to go from where he was too, where he is now, that how one person can do that is truly stunning. it has been a short time where he's made this transformation and you know, always criticism of trump, congressman did range from harb some of the stuff andrew was sharing to frankly much more thoughtful nuance, things like he told me once when he was criticizing trump's exaggerating and his shortcomings as president. he put it this way. >> well i think, it may have worked as a tv show personality. i don't necessarily think that it works for him politically when people see the president really going after a major health care form effort and then failing. and when people are still obviously frustrated about the way the health care system is working right now, that leads to this sense that the president just isn't able to deliver congressman, do you think that there are voters the voters, serious voters who will look at
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that and say that you can't go from that to this and hold it against jd vance or that ticket if he's on it yeah. >> well, a couple of things. first of all, and i don't know a j.d. vance, i've not met him before. i've watched him on tv on the watch him on cnn. he does connect with people. he is a populist. >> you have likey. >> he has good language, communicating with people one of the things that really i think echoed with the trump campaign was when he took the same standard as trump going to the munich conference month or two whole earlier this spring and talk about why we should not arm ukraine. yeah he took the prompt playbook and hit a home run as it related to the trump new. and i don't think he took any questions, but he was out there on the front lines willing to take the shots across the bow and that got a lot of credit in trump's book, but they're close. they
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traveled together or i was a big state big republicans state in one of the things that probably hurts j.d. of getting on a ticket is trump doesn't need ohio. he's already wanted yeah, he's got to win with the suburban women he's got to win the swing states like my state here in michigan yeah, those are the states where he has to really connect j.d. can help there. i think but his home-state when you think about a traditional vice president and bringing, delivering the state, it's already there for trump the red lights because he is a maga problem no question about it. >> all right. what congressman upton, i appreciate your time and thank you. next trump weighing in on hunter biden's struggles with addiction and you actually may be surprised by what he's saying on that tonight. and putin showing get off the russian warships just miles from the united states coast, even as his navy suffers major losses at the hands of ukraine. we have a special report yeah, please.
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my son, hunter. he is overcoming addiction. he is he's one of the brightest, most decent man i know. and i am satisfied that i'm not going to do anything. i sat i said i'd vide by the jury decision. i will do that and i will not pardon him mj lee is out front. >> she is with the president in italy and pooley and mj, you just talk to a senior white house official. so what else do you know? biden was in a moment where this was shouted question. he didn't need to answer, right? he was turning to meet president zelenskyy. >> instead, he chose to know with an exclamation point it would not commute his son's a sentence what did that senior official tell you about his decision to say that now? well, aaron, what i'm told is that white house officials expected and suspected that the president could get questions tonight at that press conference about his son, hunter's conviction. >> it only happened two days ago and he had yet to publicly weigh in on the issue and they
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knew that there was a good chance that he would be asked us specifically about the question of whether for he would commute hunter sentence. you might recall that yesterday, white house press secretary karine jean-pierre was asked by a reporter whether she would rule out that possibility, and she wouldn't say yes or no. and the white house knew that that answer that exchange had taken on a life of its own when in reality the issue was at some aids actually hadn't discussed that matter with the president directly. we heard john pierre telling reporters on air force one, i haven't talked to him about it i'm just not going to have anything to say on this but it was nonetheless a really remarkable moment, aaron seeing the president on the global stage with the eyes of the world on him having to address in such a manner what has been such a painful issue for his family to deal with. and i was checking in with some white house and campaign needs after the press conference, just asking how they thought it all went. and a couple of them
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said, look, i think he accomplished what he sought to accomplish the press conference, accomplish what? eight so accomplish basically that they wanted the focus to be on ukraine, and that was interesting to me because there was a moment in the press conference where the president seemed to bristle when a port are asked him a question about the ongoing ceasefire negotiations in the israel war. he said something to the effect of, i wish you all would stick to the rules and of course, there are no rules when it comes to a press conference like this. >> no, absolutely none. all right. thank you very much. mj and i want to go now to a man who knows president biden as well as anyone, evan odds knows the journalists, the author of joe biden, the life, the run, and what matters now, among your extensive work. so evan, when this happened today first you saw the president say that he would not pardon his son. now this issue of commuting a sentence and he said he wouldn't do that. i mean, just to give everyone the context here, right? of course hunter biden could be facing 25 years in prison. there are many say you won't be be sentenced to
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any prison in this case, but he's got a case in california with the tax violations that definitely could carry prison time. did it surprise you that he would come out and so aggressively say he wouldn't come you to sentence you know, honestly, aaron, i was struck by the moment the fact that he said it in passing, but it was very clear that he was ready to say this and had the question been posed to him directly during the press conference, he would have answered the same way. >> he's now been pretty emphatic over the last few days that he does not plan to pardon or commute his son. but that really is him saying is i don't plan to use the powers of the office, the powers of the presidency to provide private relief for my family and a sense he's staking out a pretty bright line between being, as he says, a president and a dad. and that's not just an emotional expression. he's in effect saying, i don't think that i should i have a right even if it's legal and god knows, it must be tempting to use this power in a way that is not available to so many other americans facing similar kinds of struggles. >> no to any to anyone else.
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>> i mean, pretty incredible to say that. >> now he does. of course, as you know, initially when his first comment came out about this or the statement, evan, it was really just about i'm not going to comment on the system. i'm just going to comment as a father and he never has shied away from talking about his children, his love for hunter. and frankly, how the tragedy that hunter biden has gone through has brought them together. and you heard what he said today is something he said back at a town hall. i was with him at an iowa in 2019 right before the election. here's what he said. >> my mother used to use an expression which i thought the first time she used was so cruel. she said out of everything bad something good will happen if you look hard enough for and i watched the relationship that i had with my two boys was like a steel belt running through our chest today lost her mom and i watched the relationship. my sons and a daughter, surviving son and daughter have with one another i mean, do you think he sees
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this the same way, evan? >> i mean, it is it is almost impossible, i think for anyone to imagine if you had that power especially given this this gun trial as it was, right. first-time offender almost certainly charged that wouldn't have been brought against somebody else. it wouldn't have bothered. but because he is the president's son, they bring it for him to come out and say that he won't commute the sentence. do you think he really is prepared to see a sun behind bars and see that as as he did here as for something good, if you look hard enough for it look, i think there's no question. >> erin doing are both parents i think we look at this. anybody looks at this and think my god faced with that decision how do you say no? and it can seem cold? cool except that there is, as you heard a moment ago in that quote from him, there's a kind of old school sort of flint core to his conception of how you are to be in the system, how you are to be as a person of a moral person and ultimately how to contend with questions of power. one of the things that anybody who spends time around joe biden comes to know is that
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he's had this long running focus on how much he is bothered by abuses of power. you see it come up over and over again over the course of his career when he fixates on somebody abusing their power. now look, you can always find moments with a senator might enjoy the privileges of the office yet, but this would be a moment in which which using the power of the presidency would be i think too many americans, it would feel like it claims against the person that he wants to project evan. >> thank you very much. great to see you. >> my pleasure. thanks next, the age old question. >> how do older voters really feel about biden's age what do. >> they say that to ad is the new 60 plus shockwaves sent through putin's economy, united states slapping new sanctions on russia major banks, even the ones used by oligarchs, reportedly preventing people from withdrawing cash. what is happening in moscow the most, anticipated moment of this
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trump is berrigan loud, he doesn't come off as old as maybe biden does at 86 gsc ferris spends no time worrying about the ages of the oldest american presidential candidates for those who do this loyal president biden's support order has this to say about donald trump. he's weigh less capable in the brain area. >> in a brain area delicate way to put it as trump turns 78 on friday, just three years younger than biden's at one age is an unmistakable part of the race, but the biden campaign is suddenly bracing it in a different way. >> i'm a senior and i vote turning to faris and other seniors to build a critical piece of his coalition. i never thought i'd be one of those people home political scion are being involved, but i can't sit back. thank you. >> linda van orden, a retired real estate agent, is now
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training democratic volunteers, get out the vote, becoming politically active for the first time after trump won in 2016, we could determine who sits in the white house. >> grand rapids, and surrounding kent county is a bellwether within battleground, michigan, biden one here and statewide in 2020, after trump narrowly carried both four years earlier, biden is working to become the first democrat in nearly a quarter century to win those 65 and older in an election where baby boomers now comprise a wide majority of the senior vote they're at a point in their life where they've seen how politics has changed and recognize that it's a priority for them. >> as other parts of the biden coalition or fraying the campaign is putting seniors front and front-and-center energize your neighbors, invite them out to pickleball and devote at the same time, yet deep disappointment ways heavy on other seniors here like barbara howard, who voted for biden four years ago, but won't this time, i feel betrayed. >> right now. i'm not hope for precedent. the palestine thing is a red line and his he's not
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he's not there judean nick herik, both eddie and retired, say biden, steady hand inspires them to volunteer. what do they say that at is the new 60 often canvassing and registering younger voters in grand rapids. >> what's exciting for me is the opportunity for seniors to talk with young folks and say, can we really look at this? what is this? thank two, and defending the president's age, i look at his thinking in his approach to things. looks pretty good to me, especially when you you at, in contrast to what the alternative is, that contrast with trump is what the biden campaign is investing millions on ads like this, drinking bleach to tear gassing citizens and staging a photo-op that delight voters like faris i love the one ray talks about how he drink a drink bleach that we care cove, holding up the bible, how downloads that the senior generation values
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and character are important to us now, older voters are always one of the most prize slices of the electorate. >> they're reliable. they turn out to vote an air on the ones we spoke to hear at least are the least concerned about his age for all the questions about the pieces of biden's coalition, the young voters, the voters of color there's a silver lining and the pole, at least for senior voters the president's own age air is jeff. >> thank you very much and very significant because harry anton's with me. i mean, people who are his age are best able to judge what it is like. yeah. and they understand. so it's significant that that jeff is seeing this and that they're saying that. but he also mentioned, of course, the other parts of the coalition, the flip side of the older voter is the younger voters older and there is a flip side there is absolutely a flip side. >> i mean, you could just take a look at the polling data comparing where we are now versus where we were at this 0.4 years ago. and this is joe biden versus donald trump. joe biden london the polls at this
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point among 18 to 29 year olds by 29 points at this particular point, look at where we are right now. it's just a five-point vantage among voters under the age of 30 at this point, you've seen a 24 point drop in joe biden's lead among voters under the age of 30. and so, yeah, he may be doing better with senior orders, but the reversal of that is he's doing significantly poorer with younger voters. >> all right, so what's behind this and does that necessarily mean they're going not? being into biden may not necessarily made me into trouble. yeah essentially, what we're looking at here is what's the big difference between senior voters and younger voters? >> and that is, do you want to bring normalcy back to this country? or in fact, do you want to change things up in fundamentally changed this country. look at this among voters under the age of 30, 65% of them say they want to fundamentally only change america just 29% said they want to bring politics back to normal. compare that to senior voters. you see the exact opposite. look at that 72% using, isn't that amazing? 72% say they want to bring politics
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back to normal compared to 70% who say they want to fund them fundamentally change america. of course, the big question, okay. is the big question? question is, who do they see as the change age? >> what fundamental changes do they want? the other thing, oh, well, here's your answer. here's your big answer would bring major change, 58% of voters under the age of 30 say that trump would bring major change compared to just 11% for joe biden. i think that's one so the big reason why younger voters have been shifting away from donald trump away from joe biden to donald trump. >> that's incredible. 58%. and someone who's already been an office, but they see big change. >> all right. thank you very much, harry. and next, peut putin show of force off the coast of florida, even as the russian navy has suffered incredible loss, we're going to show you kinda riva support your brain health. >> mary janice, hey eddie know appraiser, franck. franck, bread. how are you? fred fuel up to seven brain health
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yet to have is urging his country to do to the united states. to avenge the us treasury department's new sanctions on russia now, these sanctions have sent fear and anxiety through russia's financial system, state media has reported that major banks were blocking customers from withdrawing cash and that was coming from state media. so consider that it comes as putin is sending a nuclear-powered sub and other warships to havana, just 90 miles off the florida the coast. but what is so striking about russia's massive so forth. so we can all see right now off the us coast is the truth, the reality of putin's navy, a fleet that's been decimated since the beginning of the war with ukraine, fred pleitgen is outfront ukrainian sea drones racing to attack or russian warships near crimea in the black sea. the cheap unmanned vessels have allowed ukraine to decimate vladimir putin's black sea fleet was boring or with their weapons are not designed to deal with such small sea drones. the soldier says, in most cases, they use anti-ship guns. it's a far cry
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from the power moscow was trying to project, not far from the us so shores sending some of their most advanced warships to cuba. russia's ministry of defense saying that the frigate and a nuclear powered sub quote, practice the use of high precision missile weapons by computer-based maritime simulation at the ship based groupings of a mock enemy platinum or putin has invested heavily in russia's navy, which now has a permanent base in syria and boasts hypersonic missiles it's no paper tiger, but also so not an invincible force as ukraine has shown, ukraine's sea drones as well as sabotage and air launched missiles, have destroyed about one-third of russia's black sea fleet since the spring of 2020 to ukraine says including large landing ships like this one lone up in crimea at the end of last year. and submarines destroyed and a doc the russians have even lost the flagship of the black sea fleet, musk far to what key of
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