laughter welcome everyone here in this cnn newsroom, i'm omar jimenez in washington. we're going to begin this hour with fierce fighting in eastern ukraine as ukrainian troops say they've successfully countered or they are successfully countering russian advances around the town near kharkiv, right along the russian border, which is turned the town itself into a front line in this war, you can see vovchansk highlighted on the map there. now the extent of the damage is pretty staggering, as you can see, there from ms drone footage over her head, much of the fighting in the last few weeks has reportedly centered around an aggregate plant, which usually produces materials for construction. now it's a combat zone we're ukrainian troops have tried to isolate russian units to cross the border as part of a recent offensive, one ukrainian commander referred to russian troops in the town as surrounded and one of the biggest this shifts on that eastern front is the us permitting ukraine to use some american weapons to strike targets across the russian

border in russian territory it's allowed ukraine to counter some of russia's gains as of late now, it's indicative of how this administration, the biden white house, treat support for ukraine, especially as compared to biden's opponent in this year's election, donald trump. both candidates striking very different tones this week when it comes to this war we're going to stand with ukraine. i think he zelenskyy is maybe the greatest salesman of any politician that's ever lived. every time he comes to our country he walked away, it was $60 i will have that settled prior to taking the white house as president elect and that obviously has major implications for the war ahead. >> let's talk more about this with former defense secretary under president bill clinton and the ceo of the cohen group, william cohen now, i'll first, what do you make of these comments from trump yesterday on zelenskyy, let's start there

oh, i'm sorry. >> what do i make them? i think that he's perhaps the greatest salesman and the history of political leadership or non leadership. of the factors that don't to linskey, i think has emerged as one of the strongest leaders in the world today, given the fact that he has been attacked by russia by vladimir putin, he's had thousands of people killed. you have potent who is sent missiles into hospitals in a maternity wards and two were school yards in schools themselves that killed thousands of people and cause millions to become migrants. and so for zelenskyy to stand up and say, i'm fighting for freedom. i'm fighting for my freedom as an independent country, and inviting for europe's freedom because because if putin is allowed to take ukraine, which former president trump has said, do whatever the hell you want, you can take ukraine, you can take anything else you want in europe, as long as they don't pay their bills. well, for someone who has filed

bankruptcy multiple times are not paying bills that's pretty rich coming from the mother, former president. but in any event, you at the european stands strongly with ukraine and president of president, our president biden stands really strong with them saying we're with you for years and years to come. that's provided that president biden is still president and that's the danger that we face. that former president trump will take office again and sell out the ukrainians in a nanosecond that's what the europeans are worried about. that's what we, as believers and freedom should be worried about. >> well, that of course, those are the stakes. he added stakes that many, many see heading into this election. and to add into that discussion, obviously, president biden returning from g7 when summit in recent days where it's clear at least in some cases, us allies are worried that, that all of this progress that they may have made in solidarity, of course, in supporting ukraine

may be undone if trump we're to win a second term. >> so just on the global stage what happens if some of the perspectives that trump is putting out right now actually make their way into policy. >> if you read it, takes the white house i think we'll see geo, political instability first of all, present president trump is should he be reelected? >> he will pull the money and the support from new all right that will help destabilized nadir, which he has also said he does not favor. so if nato justin have the united states, we are the biggest contributor. we are the backbone of the nato alliance. if you pull us out, the nato organization probably won't survive for any length of time that will destabilise europe and put potent in a very good position to dominate the european theater and such. secondly, it will undermine support by our asian allies because if we won't support ukraine, which is in europe

what are we going to do if china's should ever move against taiwan? all of those asian allies will say, wait a minute person trump has threatened to paul support from salt, from south korea. is also pulled some once a pull support from japan, you pull our troops out of japan and south korea. what's right, what's the rest? of our alliances in the, in the asia-pacific or indo-pacific region, what do they say at that point? we live in the region united states. you don't, we'll make the best deal we can. and that will be with china so this has global implications for us in terms of our european allies. >> and if we don't have our european allies, when it comes time to challenging china economically, diplomatically, who's going to be with us, european sign, you jumped us went out with you and going after china would not with you should you ever have to go to a conflict and war with china over taiwan? >> you'll be all alone. you won't have us with you. so there are great implications for our security, for

international stability. we believe in freedom, we believe in the rule of law and donald trump doesn't, he doesn't believe in the rule of law. he believes in the rule of power our power of rule. and so he wants to be more like vladimir putin inside of trump doll is a potent all he wants to be more like qishan paying. he wants a more like kim jong moon. he wants to be more like them so he can have an military that pays fealty to him, swears loyalty to him yeah when you and i pledge allegiance, it's not to a president is to the flag of the united states and the republic for which it stands to the constitution of the united states. that's what donald trump doesn't want to hear from anybody serving in public office come 2025 and you mentioned you mentioned putin, and we have seen at least this past friday, russian president putin outlined his terms for the end of the war in ukraine, which include the withdrawal of

ukrainian troops from multiple territories, the abandonment of ukraine's application to nato, the lifting of western sanctions as well. >> these, these terms are obviously a shot in the dark based on where things stand right now, long-shot, i should say, without both parties coming to the table, but i guess the question is to take the premise of where those answers came from. how do you see this war ending i don't see it ending soon unless donald trump becomes president of united states. >> if that happens, then i think he will pull the rug out from ukraine. he will tell potent, you can have whatever you want to do with ukraine it's your territory and we're not going to support ukraine a longer. i don't support so linskey, i don't support sovereignty for the ukrainian and we have to remember putin has invaded a sovereign, independent handan country. we can't allow him to get away with it, so to speak, because he never pays a penalty for

violating international rules of law. and so if he's not, he went after georgia, got a piece of georgia, he's gone after crime mirror taking crimea. he joined after the donbas. he wants laugh so he keeps taking a chunk at a time of an independent country and we say it's okay, you can have whatever you want. i don't think the american people should want that. i don't believe they do want that, but you have supporters on capitol hill who support putin who support whatever he is doing because they believed that he's a strong man. and they want a strong man in the white house, a strong man in the white house made you lose rights. it means you don't have the freedom to speak your peace of mind. you don't have the freedom to challenge of power. that's what i living with a strong man means i don't think in the americans should ever want that and we have seen as you bring up capitol hill, how increasingly difficult it has to pass funding for the defense in aid of you the crane, and it's a process that could be threatened, again, based on

what donald trump has said to this point, william cohen, we got to leave it there, but i appreciate the time and perspective. >> thanks for all right. >> breaking news tonight in california, we're a wildfire in los angeles county has now burned 12,000 acres and strong winds are likely to keep stuff okay. and the fire with the national weather service predicting gusts of up to 70 miles an hour. camila bernal joins us now in gorman, california where the fire started about an hour north north of los angeles. so camille, i know you've been out out and about today. what are you seeing there hey, omar, i wanted to show you exactly right now. >> they are doing some of those water drops will have to wait and see exactly where the helicopter goes and where that water drop happens. but we're seeing a lot of the water drops. we're seeing the crews on the ground here behind me, you see some of them now, what they were doing was preventative work, trying to keep that fire away from the areas that it has get of course, are saying heavy

machinery also buy right now and they're so a lot of hotspots, so a lot of the airdrops are targeting those hotspots were only at 2% containment at the moment, with 12,000 acres at least already burned. there are people under evacuation she orders 1,200 of them in fact, and others who were under evacuation warnings, people are being told to be extremely careful and to be ready to go. here behind me. my photographer was telling let me the airdropped, the water drop, excuse me, might be coming there you go. >> you see it there as they're targeting those specific areas. >> so very active if he know, there are firefighters working around the clock. >> so many crews out here trying to keep that containment. their biggest concern right now is the width because day throughout the day, we can see 45 to 55 mile per hour wind gusts, and then later on tonight, there's huge concern because we can see fit 60 to 70 mile per hour or wind gusts. so take a listen to what the forest service is saying

about this concern everyone of us is concerned with the wind that's the single most driving factor of this fire. >> it does. it burns fairly frequently along this corridor, which keeps it from their phenyl very large brush component however, now we have more light flashy fuels to the fire can move quickly and then when the, when lines up with the drainages and research ribbon right through them. it's it's definitely concerns. so that's what we're looking at. if hopefully these winds that are forecasted tonight don't materialize to the extent they're supposed to, which is 60 mile an hour. and maybe tomorrow will be more common. okay. >> so you heard it there from the fire service. they're concerned about how quickly this fire can spread so far they've been able to keep it away from homes and structures only to have been destroyed. so far. so hopefully they're able to contain the fire around the areas that are specifically more populated. but again, they're very concerned about what could happen tonight. and

they say it's the high temperatures, it's the low humidity, and again, that wind that is really making it difficult for all of these firefighters that are working around the clock to de omar gwynne, usually a complicating factor in these situations at an active scene as community for now just showed us i really appreciate stay safe out there. all right. still ahead, president biden doesn't hold back at a star-studded fundraiser in hollywood. we're going to tell you what he's saying about the sun prim court as he warns about a second trump presidency. plus police say a terrifying mass shooting in michigan was random. nine people were shot but out of splash pad park, including two children, we have new details next and juneteenth, the holiday commemorating the end of slavery in the united states is coming on wednesday. we're going to bring you the story one man who says his father was born before slavery was officially abolished. how he went back to a small georgia town to find his room. you're in this cnn newsroom there's

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moderated by jimmy kimmel, the biden campaign says the event rates $30 million. that's the most successful single day event in the party's history. jury cnn correspondent priscilla alvarez joins us now. all right. so priscilla biden, obviously you had some pretty sharp criticisms of trump, which i think was to be expected, but also the supreme court yeah, this was a scenario in which he warned about a second donald trump presidency, but he focused it's specifically on the supreme court saying that its potentially it's possible that in the next four years are we openings on the supreme court? >> and what does that mean if donald trump? is in a second term during that period of time, he called it one of the scariest parts. take a listen the next president is likely to have two new supreme court nominees two more two molar. >> he's already appointed to that. >> have been very negative in terms of the rights of individuals the idea that if

he's reelected, he's going to appoint two more foreign flags upside down is really, i'm i really mean it. this fee could this be the scariest part of all of it? >> well, i think it is one of the scariest parts of a look. the supreme court has never been as out of kilter as it is today after the decision that overrule roe v. wade the dobbs decision, you had clarence thomas talking about the fact that there are going to be other things we should reconsider including in vitro fertilization, including contraception, including all these things so two points there, he talks about the flag controversy surrounding alito and the flying set are flown outside of his homes, but he also talks about abortion and this has been a galvanizing issue for the biden campaign, one that they anticipate leaning into more especially ahead of the dobbs anniversary. and so you heard the president talk there about what could

happen moving forward if more conservative justices are added to the supreme court, foreign president barack obama, who was seated next to president biden, also talks about the vowel i'll use of each candidate and that that should also be taken into consideration by voters. but this was also an opportunity to rake in more money and they certainly did that with a more than $30 million that were raised. that was the largest ever democratic fundraiser. so they are setting a record. there and clearly trying to build momentum going into november and look i mean, they are obviously in full campaign mode right now. >> you've got to raise money, obviously what i would say almost testing out some talking points and seeing what might translate to actual voter doozy asm. >> but part of this as well as also first lady dr. jill biden. and where she has been throughout all of this, we saw her at points in the hunter biden trial, obviously supporting supporting him there, but where she been throughout all this. >> well, it's certainly plays a key role in supporting the family, but she just came off with three-day campaign swing where she visited multiple states and she's a very unique position to tackle the issue of

age. this is clearly front of mind for voters, for both candidates, they're both unpopular and voters are concerned that they are up there in age. and so she being the spouse of president joe biden, but also being a senior herself has talked about the benefits of aging. so she has been an aggressive surrogate for them who has gone on the campaign trail it essentially made the argument on campaign stops that look both of them are up there in age. they're both seniors, but the end of the day, who is going to preserve democracy, so she is in that unique position to do that as the spouse and is the first well, if there is doubt that the campaign was in full swing, i think we are seeing that now. so alvarez really appreciate you being here. >> we've got a lot to talk about on this and that's why i've got larry sabato who joins us now he's the director for the center for politics at the university of virginia and editor of the book return to normalcy, the 2020 election that almost broke america can't wait to see what happens in 2024. >> all right, let's start with the cash advantage that we just talked about, their $30 million. obviously, a record

for democratic race seeing here, i mean, but put it in perspective how much does that level of cache help someone like president biden omar? it helps. it is not going to be the critical factor in the election. if you look at the totals, you can even say that trump has been doing better than biden recently, but a where's that doesn't allow for the fact that so much of the money that the rnc is raising and the trump is raising is being drained off to all of trump's lawyers and legal expenses. and that's only going to continue as the appeals go forward and potentially the other trials emerge to so it's a plus for biden, but that is not something that's going to win the election for him in a presidential election, big things matter, big things, the economy international relations, and other issues like that. >> and one of those things that we that we heard him mention and i guess time will tell if it ends up being one of those

big things is the supreme court he called it quote, out of kilter in regards to where the american people are, is making the court part of one of those big things, part of what's at stake in this election. and effective message you think to get out the vote yes. and it has to be if biden is going to be reelected, it absolutely has to be over many decades. >> those are those who follow politics have learned that republicans will often vote on the supreme court as an issue. what they might do, what they have done democrats in general have avoided the issue or ignored it i think that's changed. i think it's changed because of the overturning of roe v. wade and dobbs and other things too. we at least in my lifetime, we have never had a supreme court that was so clearly ideal logically driven. you have six republicans and three democrats, and on any ideological and partisan issue,

that's pretty much the way it turns out. it's six to three and they can deny it all they want. we know how partisan they are. so this is an opportunity for democrats using the abortion issue potentially the expansion of it to other things like contraception. this is critical for democratic chances of success in 2024. >> and on that last point, obviously, with the overturning of roe roe v. wade that ignited a whole bunch of different fallout factors. but along political lines if things it's been a big motivating factor for democrats. and we saw the results of that, of course, in the midterms that came right after that do you see that though? >> the enthusiasm around that or the doozy asm going against that, being enough to propel voters in the same way across the finish line this november that maybe what it was in the first elections after that decision well, in a presidential election, i think

you have to put together a coalition of people concerned about different issues, different items on the agenda. so is it sufficient no. isn't a necessary part of the democratic message absolutely. without it, things would appear grim. i think for president bush, but he's got that issue other democrats have the issue. this is going to be reinforced by democrats running for us senate and house and governor and state legislature so it really matters other things matter too, including potentially the debates and how the candidates come across. >> yeah look as we talk about individual little things that each candidate is maybe trying to piece together or use to potentially gain more support. >> we've seen trump tried to make a fresh appeal to black voters. i mean, he was campaigning at a black church in detroit this weekend, though. it's not really clear how many black people were actually there. and that's a discussion for a different

time. >> but his efforts clearly seem to be in the graphics that we're showing right now is biden is still based on polls, still has a clear advantage among black voters, but the margins sort of changing again, at least on what's been pulled so far. >> and so my question to you is based on what we've seen to this point and based on what's been put forward by trump, do you think he can cord enough black voters to make a difference in the margins? then some of these swing states where that could actually make a difference we'll trump is clearly trying to unsettle democrats. >> and so far he succeeding. if you listen to what democrats are saying, they are worried that the fundamental part of it is that president biden's approval level is in the mid to upper 30s. >> he can't win with it. they're evening with those independent third-party candidates, he needs it to be in at least the mid 40s once that happens, if it happens, i think you'll see the level of support for biden among black voters, among maybe hispanic

voters, and also among young people. i think you'll see it go up again. it may not get to the levels of 12 2020, but it may get enough to give biden the energy he needs to get over the finish line, but it's all connected, it's not just the attempt by, trump to win some black votes. he's also playing the same game with hispanics and it seems to be succeeding more than it is with blacks and with young people. in part because of what's going on in the mideast yeah. larry, i always appreciate you taking the time to come on. your perspective is always greater than topic. i'm sure we'll have you back soon. levs sadow, everyone really appreciate it. >> thank you, omar all right. >> still ahead. we're following mass shootings across three states that have left two dead and dozens injured this weekend. we're going to tell you what we're learning about a shooting at a summer splash pad in michigan were nine people were shot. we're going to bring you the details ahead

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>> yesterday, shooting nine people, including children cnn's gloria pazmino is live on the latest on that investigation. gloria i mean, police are calling this apparently a random shooting. what more do we know yeah, omar, the investigation is still ongoing. >> we have not yet learned about any kind of motive, but we do know that it appears to shooting as bad as it was, could have been a lot worse. there were a total of nine people that were wounded by the gunfire, including several children two. of them, just a four and 8-years-old, one of them shot in the head remains in critical condition and his mother, a 39-year-old woman who was shot in the leg and the stomach. >> she is also in critical condition. >> police telling us they are all members of the same family. this happened as saturday today afternoon at a splash pad just during what is usually supposed to be a fund normal weekend de for kids and families. but

that's when police tell us that this gunman who's been identified as michael william nash, 42-years-old from shelby township drove up to the location, got out of his car and opened fire several times, 28 times, reloaded his weapon continued to fire and then fled from the scene. he took cover at his mother's house that's where police say they found him dead from a self-inflicted wound along with more weapons, they believe might have been used in perhaps another attack, another shooting that this gunmen might have might have planned, take a listen to both the sheriff talking about how there's shooting could have been a lot worse porsche and a witness who heard the gunshots when they run out over cl no patio and we heard we heard we thought was firecrackers and it

was i guess it was gunshots because we because we heard people screaming, like help us help us. what i believe that because we had quick containment on him, that if he had planned to do anything else and wouldn't surprise me because having that on the kitchen table isn't in everyday activity that there was probably something else. >> a second chapter, potentially how omar you were mentioning about theferent as shootings that have happened around the weekend you're seeing there an image of that other weapon millis military and style weapon that was found inside the house by police this is the 13th mass shooting so far, just this weekend alone. >> that is according to the gun violence archive, which track these kinds of incidents and just shows how this continues to be such a problem. and so many different communities across the country country all

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when she was forced to flee habitat for humanity and several other organizations refurbish the house, and that celebratory moment credit one all right. president abraham lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation in 18, 63 to clearing all people held to slaves to be free. and juneteenth represents june 19, 18, 65 when the final slaves were notified about the new law. but even then that didn't end slavery in the united states. it wasn't until december 18, 65 that georgia became the 27th and last state to ratify the 13th amendment, meaning the necessary number of states for the us to officially abolish slavery. >> i spoke to one man who says his father was born in georgia before slavery was officially abolished as he journeyed back to where his dad was born rafah of the river memories in this northern florida graveyard wilbur bell is visiting his dad cornelius bell, etched in the

gravestone. >> it says born in may 18, 65, which would mean his father was born before slavery was outlawed in the united states his father was 75 when wilbur was born. now only he and his sister are still alive. >> as we speak today we might be the only people me, it is really can say that their parent or parents were born is so he's retracing that history going back to where his father was born born homerville, georgia, a town of a little over 2000 at 83-years-old, wilbur bell had never been until now walking alongside his nephew and daughter, reflecting remember talking to my problem and he was a hard worker. >> he was a farmer and i guess he was a businessman also and while slavery may be a tie to their history, their mission in this journey is family they

went to the town's genealogy library doesn't happen very hoping to find more. my dad passed last year when he passed that was one less person that could say what my uncle can say it was kinda hitting me or china hold myself. right? right. >> they looked through a lot of the library verys records, history, names of previous bells in the area from around the time his father would have lived there. >> there's some name correlation like there's a wilburn bill here. i'm a wilbur bell, so they forgot to put in on my bells shared with us a copy of the 1940 census showing his father, then this picture of his dad believed to be from 1939. and while they didn't find everything, they were looking for at the library, just to see the town where his father there was born, was discovery enough especially ahead of juneteenth, which commemorates the end of slavery

in the united states. he's happy the country now recognized the day official with the pushback on history what the country's been going through for the past, i guess eight years juneteenth new day we'd like we've gotten the call, it brought people closer the other, his nephew doesn't just want to commemorate the past. he at times, once freedom from it wish we just that parking of us. >> we can't do anything horrible thing to some extent, perhaps we still we still fail the effects of what we can't grow can't move forward. if we don't let it go wilbur bell tends to agree it was about moving forward but he also needed to honor his past, not just visiting where his dad was born, but in that a direct link to it the time many thought was

generations and america's past for everyone. >> i'm one generation out of space. >> i'm too. >> and getting closer to his dad the process will probably was going to use bill. he will survive they are incredible to spend the day with now, look a cnn review of federal census records from 19401950 along with his gravestone, an obituary support that bell's father was actually born in 18 65 but census records from 1930 show him as being born after 18, 60 by which is really part of what's been known as a challenging record keeping dynamic when it comes to census records, especially between 17, 17901940, according to the national archives, and especially so for black people. >> and a programming note this wednesday, cnn will air a special program celebrating juneteenth. you can watch juneteenth celebrating freedom and legacy at 10:00 p.m. wednesday, right here on cnn. and you can stream it on cnn

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joining us now as cnn presidential historian and senior research scholar at columbia's school of international and public affairs. >> tim naftali. so tim, you also got your starters actually is unintelligent history and i'm just curious from your perspective, what was the biggest lesson learned from the 1980s and double agents well, one of the biggest lessons was that human agents can matter in a big way. well, like already ascii played a very important role in helping the west move back from the precipice of an accidental nuclear war with the soviet union and agents can also ruin things aldrich ames in the cia, and robert hansen and the fbi both undermine the united states. >> and by extension, the west stability to learn more or about what was happening in the kremlin. and the 1980s, there's a big change in the kremlin beheld. gorbachev comes on the scene and it took the

united states a little too long to understand the meal he, gorbachev really wanted to end the cold war yeah. >> and look, obviously the relationship between espionage and administration's is a key one over the past decades. and so how do you either use of espionage in inspired tactics change throughout different presidential administrations well, the game doesn't change. >> the targets change president's care about intelligence every president, including roosevelt and from franklin roosevelt on, has used intelligence to the extent they can to determine the intentions and the capabilities of adversaries. and indeed of our, some of our friends so president's care about the information they get the information can come from all kinds of sources occasionally comes from human agents. that's what we call espionage. in the 19 espionage played it unusually important role in helping the west in this case,

great britain and the united states understand the soviet union yeah. >> now, it's fascinating stuff. i think a lot of what you're talking about is going to play out. obviously in this new episode of the original series, tim, tim naftali really appreciate you taking the time for everyone else. the new episode of the original series, secrets and spies, airs tonight 10:00 p.m. only on cnn. and we're right on top of all the breaking news for you tonight as well including the dangerous wildfire rapidly growing just about an hour north of los angeles, we're going to take you there live, stay with us. you're in the cnn newsroom debate in america as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage unrivaled access, and exclusive pre and post of beit analysis follows cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america begins june 27 at seven from medium, rare well done so

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