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streaming on max, the very first debate ever ever between a president and a former president. the newest continues on cnn with wolf blitzer in the situation room happening now vladimir putin wraps up, is pomp-filled visit to north korea claiming is ties with kim jong-un have reached a new level. we're breaking down their new mutual the defense treaty and how this partnership of us adversaries threatens the west. >> also this hour, a state of emergency as wildfires rage in new mexico and turn deadly. cnn is on the scene where flames have been consuming holmes and forcing thousands of people to flee and donald trump's ability to make or break republican candidates is being tested in a congressional primary in virginia. that's still too close to call trump's anger and bid for revenge, leaving a key house republican incumbent in
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parallel tonight welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer a year in the situation room tonight, vladimir putin is in vietnam after leaving north korea with a new partnership deal and a fresh commitment from kim jong-un to support russia and its battle in ukraine. cns matthew chance has more from moscow this was carefully choreographed, pomp and ceremony a lavish welcome in north korea for the russian president keon gangs central square tens of thousands cheered, waving flags and balloons is their own ruthless autocrats killed i'm john stood shoulder to shoulder with the kremlin, strong it's been
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24 years since teens last visit here now, international sanctions and have driven him back later the two leaders signing a strategic alliance treaty unwavering, they called it heralding a new and dangerous phase in cooperation between moscow and pyongyang totaled will not ask high year till then on. you can each row, evan, i've no dank this powerful treaty will be very constructive, declared kim jong-un strictly peace-loving and defensive. he said, but this is only she wanted to go. off in clarified the partnership includes mutual assistance in the event of aggression. that's similar tomatoes clause five raising concerns ukrainian attacks on russia could invoke the clause ready us officials say russia is using north korean ammunition to sustain its
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barrage on the ukrainian front lines moscow and pyongyang deny arms transfers it would be in violation of un sanctions. the kremlin needs all the help it can get to when its conflicts in ukraine what north korea may get in return? he's also concerned it's space ballistic missile and nuclear programs used to threaten the us and its allies would benefit from russia and technology kremlin says pyongyang has and even asked for help in the most sensitive areas and kim stone-faced at times, sats as the captive audience claps hello to patriotic russian, and korean songs leaders opposed to the us and its allies are isolated and sanctioned by the west in pyongyang, at least neither looks like a pariah
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wolf. >> tonight's vladimir putin is on the second leg of that asian tour visiting communists run vietnam and other older lions, the kremlin wants to shore up, but then expect to see any he of that official enthusiasm that we saw in north korea. top of the agenda vietnam is business not fighting the united states and its allies back to you. >> all right, matthew chance reporting from moscow. >> thank you very much. let's go live to vietnam right now. as soon as will ripley, who's covering trip to hanoi. well, you've reported from inside north korea several times what is putin hoping to achieve with these visits well, obviously, the tangible benefit for putin is that he ensures that there will be a steady supply of weapons and ammunition made in north korea. >> some of the ballistic missiles made with american parts, wolf even though both sides have denied that their arms exports happening, there's clear evidence european independent think tanks that have actually picked up pieces of north korean
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missile debris. that's been used to kill civilians and soldiers and injure scores of people in ukraine's. so putin wants to make sure that there's gonna be that, that weapon and ammunition supply that he needs to keep the fighting going. and so right now, it's crucial to continue to grow that relationship with kim jong un. but also the welcome that he received something the supersized socialist celebration that he's not going to find almost anywhere else in the world. much of the west, certainly regarding him as a global pariah one thing that strikes me wolf is that those north korean people waving those flags. yes, of course, they're compelled to be out there by their neighborhood leaders and whatnot to line the streets by the hundreds of thousands. but also in north korea is arguably more restricted now than it has possibly ever been, or at least since the cold war, people there have no idea of the realities of putin's brutal war in ukraine because their state media only tells them this glossy version. and so they, they genuinely might look
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at somebody letting vladimir putin as a strong hero, unaware of the true reality of what muscle so the world thinks of him. now he's landed here in hanoi and has matthew mentioned, it's all business here. certainly the vnet vietnamese are not thrilled by the fact that just after that spectacle in north korea, he's now landed here, but they're honoring a decades long friendship with russia by welcoming the russian president. where he is hoping to get some, some business deals made potentially in energy cooperation, maybe some military deals because wolf, russia ironically is actually the number one weapons supplier for vietnam and they have been for very long time, will ripley reported from handel in vietnam. >> thanks very much for that report. let's get some more on all of these developments joining us now, cnn, political and national security analyst, david sanger, he's the author of a new book entitled new cold war's, china's rise, russia's invasion, and america struggled to defend the west. also with the historian and
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atlantic staff writer and applebaum, she also has a new book that's coming out entitled autocracy inke, the dictators who want to run the world and putin, as you know, is trying to prove he's not an international pariah. but how drastically has the power dynamic change for him when it comes to north korea? >> i think this trip is actually a sign of real desperation russia had a very good relationship with south korea, had a huge trading relationship. i think south korea was rushes fourth or fifth largest trading partner. it looks like putin is ready to just give all that up, give up his normal connections give up relationships that have lasted a long time just in order to get these weapons from north korea. and i think that it shows you exactly where he's at. it also shows you how the the, these connections between russia and north korea and china, which is of course north korea's main partner, are beginning to solidify as they
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identify as kind of victims of sanctions, as enemies of the liberal, liberal democratic ideas coming from the west. it's a pretty dangerous moment david that putin and kim jong-un agree to quote, mutual assistance in the event of aggression, close quote, what does that mean it's a great question, wolf. >> and this, what we're trying to figure out tonight, i'm the one hand in sort of a back to the cold war moment, right? these countries had a similar agreement they signed in 1961 when the power dynamic was completely different, north korea was flat on his back, was just eight years after the end of the korean war, they had nothing to offer the soviet union and the soviets, of course, had nuclear weapons by that time. and they had much greater wealth and the north did in this case now for the first time, kim jong-un has
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something that putin needs lots and lots of ammunition, mostly artillery shells some ballistic missiles. >> and he has beginning to make use of that turning the screws on, putin first to get food and oil, two things and north is always been in short supply of but the big question woolf is whether or not that, that line that you cited means eventually more help in the missile nuclear, and space programs to get kim over those few hurdles that he is not yet mastered interesting, and i want to get your thoughts. how much do you think north korea's continued support will help putin wages war on ukraine? hey well, david just said he just pointed to the most important piece of this, which is that north korea has been producing ammunition for many years in preparation for the war with south korea that has never come and so they have warehouses full of it and
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they're willing to give it to putin i mean, it doesn't win the war for him. >> it's not sophisticated ammunition, apparently quite a lot. it doesn't work. >> but it has kept him going. i think he he might well have run out many months ago if it wasn't for this. so these alliances that he's made with north korea iran, his economic relationships with china, with india. he's clearly trying to build one with vietnam these are what he's now he's these, these are how he's trying to keep the war going, which has already lasted two years longer than he expected. >> david, you report that the west ust used to be able to rely on putin to help contain north korea's nuclear ambitions how troubling is this current shift on all of this in sometimes, often news is in the silences and the silence here was that nowhere in their comments? >> today was there any
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discussion of the russians urging north korea to restrain its nuclear program or its missile program, both of which have been under un sanction for years. that's a big shift. remember that 20 years ago when george bush was beginning, the six party talks with north korea, diplomatic effort to get them to give up couple was still a nascent nuclear program. >> the russians and the chinese were on the american, japanese side of those negotiations. >> in iran in 2015 the chinese and the russians were on the american and european side of the negotiations with iran to force it to stop its nuclear fuel production. and that succeeded if either of those negotiations were starting up again today and they won't be it's a fair thing to say that the russians for sure and the chinese probably would be on
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the other side of the table at this point russia and needs the weaponry you just heard an discuss so desperately that they would have basically given up trying to convince the north koreans to give up their weapons. >> and that is also disturbing. david sanger and an applebaum to both of you. thank you very much. >> just just ahead. new election results as fresh insight into the state of the gop what is still undecided race in virginia says about donald trump's hold on. the republican party but first, a live report from the deadly wildfire outbreak in the west. one resident describing the scene as apocalyptic, as people are scrambling right now in huge numbers to evacuate the situation room with wolf blitzer. >> he's brought to you by progressive save when you bundled motorcycle rv, and boat insurance visit progressive.com everywhere, but the seat the
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wildfires as crews desperately tried to contain the flames and the danger, at least one person is dead. >> cnn is 11, has more from the fire zone michael scott escaped rio dosa, new mexico just in time through thick smoke and an orange glow as a massive wildfire consumed his mountain neighborhood. my trick was being hit with chunks of it was almost like big gray rain hitting my truck scott and his wife and his mother were able to make it out with a few belongings and they're three dogs. >> we met them at a motel 50 miles away where all they can do is nurse the shock that everything they own might be lost the not-knowing is a numbing feeling. he says are incredibly helpless feeling where there's literally nothing you can do. it really is and for the past 24 we've been in this little motown when i think well, we don't have anything left. now, where did we go? >> to massive fires around
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congressional races. and a new gauge of his quest for political revenge. ryan tata's on the story for us, brian are key house, republican incumbent is in peril right now, right? wolf republic welcome, congressman bob good is now in a position to lose that race in virginia, given his politics, you think that good would be a favorite of donald trump. but one move from the congressman change that dynamic republican congressman bob good in a nailbiter as he fights to retain his seat in virginia's fifth congressional district after tuesday's primary night. good. trails his opponent by eraser for thin margin and the race could be headed for a recount. good, normally checks all the boxes for being a far your mega republican. he's an election denier. support strict immigration measures, opposes all abortions, but he now could lose because of one moon i just wanted to congratulate and thank governor ron desantis. good. initially endorsed florida governor ron desantis in the republican presidential primary drawing rage from the man who ended up dominating the race, bob good, who is actually
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bad for virginia and who will stab you in the back like he did me. it didn't matter to former president donald trump that wants to saturday that's about out. bob good went back to endorsing trump. good even made a pilgrimage to trump's hush money trial to curry favor. >> we are president trump's voice. we have his back. >> none of it mattered. the marker of betrayal had been laid down. i think it's safe to say that donald trump holds a cryogen. >> we've seen that if anyone, whether they're inside of his administration when he was president or there are republican in congress, that if they do anything that he considers disloyal, then he will go after them. >> trump endorsed good's challenger for the nomination. virginia state senator john maguire, a former navy seal known for his expertise in commando tactics, but good also drew the wrath of former house speaker kevin mccarthy by being one of eight house republicans who voted to oust mccarthy from the speakership last fall. >> and so because of that, kevin mccarthy put some weight into this race as well behind bob good's challenger, the
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good maguire race isn't the only battle drawing attention to virginia and the trump dynamic in the state. eugene vindman, a whistleblower who served in trump's white house and raised alarms about trump's infamous 2019 phone call with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy that led to the then-president's first impeachment will win his democratic primary in virginia. cnn projects both presidential candidates are focusing attention on the commonwealth, even though president biden handily won virginia in 2020, biden held a fundraiser. there last night that included bill and hillary clinton, at which biden implored attendees to support abortion rights. trump recently campaigned in the steck republicans really want to really think that this is a state that is ripe that if there is a wave or if there is a strong republican birth in the 2024 election, that will include virginia but donald trump's reach in this primary season seemingly extends everywhere. brian jack, a former aide to trump in his campaign, and his
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administration and wayne johnson, a former department going to education official in the trump administration, have both just one republican nominations for us house six in the state of georgia, wolf, todd reporting for us, brian. thank you very much. i want to bring in our political experts right now have van jones, i'll start with you, congressman good it's one of the most conservative members of congress. what does it say to you that he's trailing right now by a little, but he's trailing in this primary democratic party. >> i mean, it just shows that this is a republican party, certainly in the house is just degenerated into personality over politics. this guy has terrible ideas already ease against abortion for anybody he wants. people have been raped by their uncles. they have their babies that should be terrible enough for the republican party. that's not terrible. well enough because he doesn't get along with donald trump. >> the republican party in the house has degenerated if a reality tv show, professional wrestling, and as soap-opera had a baby, it might look like
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the republican caucus is all nonsense all the time. >> this is, these are not serious candidates and the problem that you have now is a donald trump then get all the credit if good loses, but don't forget good is good in name only. he's not a good politician. he's off everybody in the party. and so, but here we go. everything is about donald trump and no matter how terrible these ideas are, they're not terrible enough if you don't like donald trump, we get along with him every, every minute of every today anna navarro is with us as well. >> anna, if good loses this race, what message will send two other republicans listen, this is just the latest case. >> trump has been sending this message over and over again for many years, and that's why people sometimes ask why don't these congresspeople turn on him? why don't they turn on him over january 6? why don't they get somebody else and it's because donald trump knows how to exercise power. donald trump punishes people who are not 100% loyal to him.
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it is not about ideology it is not about who will make the better general election candidate. it is not about keeping the majority, it is about loyalty to donald trump. i have seen donald trump get involved in local races in miami-dade, where i live, and it's all about rewarding loyalty. and punishing those who haven't been even, even in the case of this guy, who tried to suck up to him, a lot by showing up at the trial after initially endorsing ron desantis with whom donald trump has made up. >> so he seems to have forgiven ron desantis. ron desantis has agreed to do some on racing for him. they've met and had some coming to jesus, but he won't forgive the other guy. he won't forgive. good. >> scott jennings is with us as well. scott, does this result at least so far show the power of trump's endorsement or could the small margin reveal some weakness? >> and i think we already see
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the power of trump here. this race wouldn't have been on the radar had it not been for donald trump. the only reason this challenge to congressman good was even viable was because of donald trump's intervention. so the fact that this guy is in a tight race are slightly ahead and might win is 100% thanks to trump. he's got a great resume and i'm sure it'll be fine congressman, but make no mistake. it's about trump, but also there is one other issue in this race which i think we don't talk about enough, and that is yes, bob good is conservative and yes, he's been a part of the freedom caucus, but he has been one of the most divisive republicans in the conference. it was made mention of, but he did vote with every democrat in the house to throw the republican conference into chaos and the house into chaos when they got rid of kevin mccarthy. this made a lot of people mad. i don't think trump liked it i certainly mccarthy didn't like it, and he was one of the people that really said, i'm going to check my republican car today and joined with all the democrats do something that's completely counterproductive that hurt him badly and put him on this path. and probably deserves to lose
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over it. >> van today, the biden campaign released a blistering statement, marketing juneteenth at attacking trump, and it reads in part, let me quote from the biden campaign statement, donald trump has spent his entire life denigrating black americans he spent his entire presidency harming black communities, and he spent his entire campaign this cycle engaged in empty racist gimmicks instead of meaningful outrage clearly those are very, very strong words. what's your analysis? >> well, i think that biden is, i think he's speaking. what are you actually believe? i think there's a big chunk democratic party that when they hear donald trump, they think racist and on trump, unfortunately, given a lot of reason to think that way, because he does say and do these things that are racially offensive and is a part of his brand at this point. and so i think when you behave that way, the democratic party and joe biden are going to hold you to account for that. i think donald trump is probably more a racial opportunist. i don't
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think he particularly likes or dislikes any group except for himself. but he opens the door and people are going to keep slamming his face at it as long as he conducts itself in that way anna, why do you think trump has seemingly been able to make at least some gains with minorities in some of these recent polls, especially with ben i think there's something about trump. >> i don't understand that, but there's something about trump that appeals to some man, i think they see his the way that he talks as tough as somehow equating it to masculinity. but i can't agree more with them regarding trump's record and just a few days ago oh, he wasn't a church, a black church supposedly in detroit where there were actually very few black people in attendance from the photos and videos that were released. >> and he went in there and he painted latinos against blacks told the supposed black people, the handful of black people that were there, that the latino immigrants coming in,
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we're coming in to take their jobs, which is a way of offending both communities. >> because what he's referring to is low level jobs is manual jobs. and there are black people who are surgeons and there are black people who are lawyers and there are black people who are on the supreme court. and there are black and latinos who are also highly trained. professor officials. so no donald trump, not every black is low level and know that not every latino immigrant is in a low-level job. all right. >> guys. thanks to all of you. thanks very much. up next, new tensions right now between the united states and israel, a top us official calling a recent statement pi prime minister benjamin at time yao unproductive and completely untrue night cnn celebrate juneteenth, with special performances by john legend, eddie lewbel, smokey robinson. >> we still have a lot of work to do. juneteenth celebrating freedom in legacy good night at ten on cnn recipes recipes that
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it's inconceivable that in the past few months did ministration has been withholding weapons and ammunition students. >> we generally do not know what he's talking about. we just don't let's go to our senior white house correspondent, mj lee. she's joining us from the white house. what are you hearing over there? mj. >> well, wolf, those comments that you just played from the prime minister accusing the us of withholding weapons fins, and ammunitions from israel, did not sit well with us officials. once you knew your official telling me that they were perplexing and they were simply wrong. and what we are learning is that us officials actually privately conveyed that sentiment to the prime minister directly in a meeting yesterday us envoy almost hochstein tool prime minister, according to a source that those comments were unproductive, unproductive, and completely untrue. and we're also learning that the us ambassador to israel, jack flew in that same meeting basically walk the prime minister through
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the list of arms. but the us is delivering to israel to make the point that he was wrong on this now, there is an israeli delegation that is currently in washington for a series of meetings with us officials. and we are learning that one meeting that was slated for morrow appears to have been postponed, but one official said that this was directly a result of what the video message that the prime minister put out. but other officials said that it was simply a scheduling issue, but either way, we are seeing those tensions between us and israeli officials continuing to mount as its war continues on, will mj lee reported from the white house, thank you. coming up. cnn's debate between joe biden and donald trump is just about a week away. we'll discuss the stakes with someone who has been critical of trump by dow supports it's campaign. the new hampshire governor chris sununu debate night in america as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post of beat
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now just eight days away. the window for candidates to qualify for the debate closes just after midnight tonight, so far, only biden and trump have met the requirements, joining us now the republican governor of new hampshire, chris sununu, who has been critical of trump adopt supports his bid to win back the white house governor, thanks so much for joining us, both candidates. as you know, are sharpening their knives right now, biden essentially calling trump a racist earlier today, trump repeatedly questioning bytes, mental fitness is, this a preview of what we'll let we're likely to see at the debate unfortunately, yeah. >> i mean, i think a lot of us would like to see more substantive things talked about and don't get me wrong. i think jake and dana are going to do a phenomenal job. they are i mean, there's quite sincerely, there are two of the best debate moderators out there, but folks are going to be mostly tuning in to see you all land at how outlandish trump is, and how much energy biden brings to the table. i think trump will keep it in check for the most part, i
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think biden will bring some pretty good energy similar to what you saw in his state of the state speech, something like that. but that's gonna be the nuance can jake and dan are really kinda pride to make their answers on some of these really serious issues. a little more interesting, a little more substantive. and given that there's no audience, i think they're going to have a chance to do it. so i think it's going to be a great debate. i think everyone's going to be watching grabbed the popcorn buckle in. it's gonna be it's gonna be a very highly anticipated, highly watched event to be sure. yes. state of the union address, you meant to. cnn has learned that trump has been huddling with it advisors on how to handle likely debate questions, including on the january 6 insurrection, governors that an admission that trump's sees this potentially as a major vulnerability well, i think it's always been a vulnerability of his and i would hope that his team would would understand that the one thing i'll say about his campaign this time around, it's much more professionally run. it really is then his pretty then 16 or 2020. so i'm
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not surprised to hear that they're kind of putting them through the paces, making sure that he has the right answers. i imagined biden teams is doing the same thing on the substantive issues of how to explain the back-and-forth messaging on the border. how do you explain trying to tell people inflation isn't is temporary and not a bad thing yet they have the highest credit card debt ever. so both sides are going to have to really bone up because this is where they have to just look at america and and answer the question and it'll be interesting. i keep going back to the fact that there's no audience, right? i think the biden team asked there for there to be no audience, but i actually think it helps trump, believe it or not more than biden trump tends to play into the audience, like if he gets a response from the audience, he, he gets a little more outlandish and a little more abrasive so the fact that there's no audience, i think helps keep trump and check a little bit. but it also will help it not be as jarring and maybe confusing to biden. and help him focus. so either way, i think both teams are taking this very seriously. they're not just walking through it or anything like that. and i think
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at the end of the day, that's good for america, right? that makes for a more, hopefully a more substantive debate. hey, folks, can actually use this to see where they want to go in november with their vote. >> let's open substantive potential republican vice presidential candidate. north dakota governor doug burgum said today, and i'm quoting him now under joe biden were living under a dictatorship his word a dictatorship. do you agree no, no, no. >> by the way, governor burgum is terrific. i'm a huge fan, is a wonderful governor would love to see him as vice president, but no, i wouldn't use the word dictatorship. i think there's obviously some hyperbole in there. i think it's just really, really, really bad policy really bad policy that ultimately the judge of that is where are we better off now than we were four years ago? most people will tell you that they're not getting better off mostly because of their financial situation. and the issue that i keep always going back to is all these different issues that people might have and we all have different priorities on those issues. which ones are keeping americans awake at
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baseball is honoring the late great willie mays with a moment of silence at every game across the country today. the sports icon trailblazer died yesterday at age 93, joining us now on the phone and the veteran sportscaster and cnn contributor bob costas. bob, thanks very much for joining us. first of all, explain what by willie mays was one of the all-time greats. and what will you remember most about him well, he could do everything that a non pitcher position player could possibly do on the field at the highest possible level? >> and even though the statistics are staggering, they don't do him full justice because you had to see him play to appreciate his flare, his honest flare. he had style in everything he did. he was exciting to watch and the exuded his own joy. and he made people either bigger fan tens, or if they weren't fans to begin with he made them fans because his joy was infectious
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and he even had that boyish quality about him, wolf into his 80s and 90s, there was a twinkle in his eye when he talked about baseball or any other subject that interested him? he was just an extremely appealing person and an extremely exciting player to watch when i was growing up in buffalo, i loved watching on television. let me read to you and our viewers, bob, this wonderful anecdote involving you and willie mays. let me read from this. we discovered this willie mays admitted to wearing ill fitting cannon apps to ensure that he would run out from under them as he dashed around the basis or chased along flyball. he told you in 2008 and i'm quoting him now, you have to entertain people. that's what i wanted to do all the time and as you and i well know, he certainly succeeded that didn't he? >> yeah. yeah, that high pitched voice. and i can remember saying, you have to entertain the people. >> and he also said, once is a
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great quote from him. yeah, i can make a hard play look easy, but i can also make an easy play look hard meaning that he would make a play that was fairly routine. look more exciting and spectacular. he knew he'd catch the ball anyway, any entertain the people by doing that. >> he was so amazing, he was such a wonderful ballplayer on a great human being, bob costas. thank you very, very much. right now i want to get to a celebration of freedom cnn is airing a very special program later tonight in honor of this juneteenth, a holiday commemorating the end of slavery in the united states. cnn's victor blackwell is joining us right now. he's the host. he spoke with singer inactive as john legend about his work for civil rights and social justice. listen john, you could sing, release music, and then go home. >> yeah, and not do the work. >> what compels you to engage and do the social justice work?
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hello, part of it is i've always been inspired by the tradition of particularly black artists over the years realizing that when we have this opportunity, when we have this platform, we want to use it to to stand up for what's right fight for justice support activists and organizers who out there doing really important work to secure freedom for all citizens i come from a tradition of that. i believe when i think about my mentors and my heroes like harry belafonte and others they invested in the civil rights movement. they spent their money, they spent their social capital, and they use their platform to try to make the world better and i always thought that was what an artist was supposed to do. so i feel like this is part of my calling as an artist victor, tonight's juneteenth special is a celebration of freedom and legacy, but john legend and your other guests say they're still much more work to do,
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right? and john legend acknowledges that the work will never be finished, but there is some effort that can be made to reduce the disparities his work focuses on ending mass incarceration and reducing recidivism. i spoke with smokey robinson as well, who's now been touring since he was a teenager. he's now at 4-years-old. he talks about making sure that people go out to vote. that is what he's focused on. patty lewbel, also who performs? they all perform, but in her interview, she talks about making sure that the younger performers, the women in this industry, have leg up, have the support they need. she also does a lot of work around the lgbtq community and fighting hiv aids. so they all are both pairing there. they're fantastic performances with these stimulating conversations coming up tonight. and the program tonight to dives into the legacy of these artists and others who are creating amazing things in america. >> today's america, why is it so important? they mark this
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holiday by speaking out? >> you know it's a really a through line through all of these conversations. is that this is a holiday for all americans. that this is a holiday that is not just for black americans, but for everyone to celebrate freedom. opal lee, who is the grandmother of juneteenth, to walk to make it a national holiday? hey, says that july 4th celebrates the freeing of the land, juneteenth celebrates the freeing of the people, and that this is a time to speak out a season to speak out to further the efforts of freedom for people across the country. >> victor blackwell, thanks so much for doing this and to our viewers, be sure to join victor later tonight, 10:00 p.m. i'm eastern for the cnn special event, juneteenth, celebrating freedom and legacy and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett outfront starts right now

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