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time, very publicly he's also laying the groundwork in case he doesn't do so well in the debate stage by making completely wild claims that a good biden performance will be drug enhanced he's going to be so pumped up. he's going to be pumped up you know, all that stuff that was missing about a month ago from the white house what happened? >> who who left is somebody? but he left it. they i wonder let's see, somebody left the laptop in an office of a gentleman was supposed to fix the laptop from hell. he never picked it up and somebody didn't pick up hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine. i wonder who that could have been so just as a point of fact, the bag found in the white house viscera stores can be last summer contain less than a gram of cocaine according to a staunchly conservative republican congressmen who was briefed by the secret service on it, a hundreds of thousands of dollars for cocaine would weigh dozens of panel also, taking up the idea that prison biden will be medicated for the debate. >> congressman ronny jackson, running jackson was the former
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white house physician who was allegedly so free and easy prescribing drugs without a prescription, he became known as the candy man, which the congressman denies jackson also administered a cognitive test to the former president, which the former president claimed he aced, that we couldn't remember congressmen jackson's last name. he kept calling him johnson the other day joining us now with the new debate prep reporting, new york times senior political correspondent maggie haberman. so what do you view heard about how trump has taken this as you know, there are ample opportunities for trump to make flubs as much as he tries to point out what biden does trump is taking this more seriously than people allow publicly, right? i mean, in public, his aides often downplay the prep that he does. he's been doing not standard debate prep. he doesn't have standing this as of now for biden in these debates. >> so he's not doing mock debates, not doing mock debates. know that could, that could certainly changed. but he's been doing what they've been describing as policy time, where they bring in different people to brief him a bunch of senators have come on, come in last week. senator marco rubio and senator eric schmitt both briefed him at the rnc headquarters after his meetings
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with lawmakers around capitol hill, which was his first major meeting with party members since he became the presumptive nominee and they are focusing on various issues that could come up. abortion, health care, energy covid, and then very specifically in this was one thing that came up last thursday what trump will say when asked january 6 related questions, particularly his statements about pardoning some of the people who were arrested in connection with the violence that day. so willie, do we do know willie tried to be vague and not be pin down on whether he'll pardon them all on that one what they are hoping he is going to say. and again, who knows what he'll actually say, but what their homes hoping he has to say is some version of it depends on the case. he has left it much broader in the past and said he'll likely pardon people again across the board. i think that they're going to try to have him point to specifics, including people who were arrested where they were not that close to the building. >> do you know in past did he do mock debates? did he have
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somebody playing somebody? >> oh, chris christie, i mean, played a version of hillary clinton and he played a version of biden in 2020. and then in 26 to 2016 before that. so yeah, i mean, those those were luck trump doesn't like prep. i mean, he considers its school. so the fact that they've gotten him to do it this way is actually pretty revealing and also speaks to the fact that i think he knows that this has to go well for him. he has said to people multiple times that he knows that he interrupted too much in the first debate with biden in 2020, and having just re-watch that debate recently it's really striking. i mean, we all talked about it at the time, but biden could barely get a word in edgewise and biden was smiling throughout as this was happening. >> maggie, stay with us. i want to bring in from white house foreign biden white house communication structure. kate betting field, also sarah longwell, publisher of the bulwark longtime republican strategists are critical. the former president, what is your reaction to maggie's reporting that trump is apparently doing more of these policies sessions while biden sticking to more traditional debate prep with your old boss, former white
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house chief of staff, ron klain actually not surprised to hear this from maggie because i think donald trump recognizes that she said that the first debate in 2020, which was essentially a free for all where kind of his his worst characteristics were on display. >> his most chaotic energy was on display. i think he knows and his team knew that wasn't good for him. and i think there's every reason to expect that a more disciplined version, of donald trump makes you up at this debate. mean think about it. the format is actually, i would argue probably to trump's benefit no. audience, the mic it's being cut off. it means he's not going to have the sort of rambling rafah, the rambling rally. donald trump, that we get at as rally isn't it? >> it will potentially be an opportunity for him to it'd be a lot more discipline. >> so i think that it certainly makes sense if you're somebody who's strategizing on behalf of donald trump to try to convince him to show up and be that version of themselves. i think it's reasonable to expect that we'll see that version of it and you think not having an audience play, it helps donald
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trump i do because i think the thing that will be the most problematic for him is the angry energy, the chaotic energy, the interrupting he feeds off crowds. >> he gets whipped up into a frenzy and i think part of what biden should do in this debate and what i think he wants to do is try to kind of put the worst of donald trump on display. but that chaotic energy on display, and i actually think a more sedate room that will bring trump's energy level down is probably actually a good thing for donald trump sarah, i know you do focus groups, the gop voters, do you think many of those voters will be impacted? >> by this debate or opinions already baked in yeah, we'll look for the base voters opinions are baked in and for a lot of those people, they think that joe biden has dementia, right? >> because that's what they hear all the time from the right-wing media ecosystem. but what biden needs to focus on are these swing voters, these independence? even right-leaning independents and for them, you what i hear in the focus groups, and we talk a lot about double-haters, them being the persuadable group.
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this election cycle and the good news for joe biden is they don't actually hate joe biden. those voters. they're just they're worried he's too old. and so when he has performances like he had at the state of the union, and if he has a good performance of this debate, he shows up, he shows command to the policy material. he goes on some offense against donald trump around the conviction around january 6. they just want to see that he's still got it that he can do the job. and i think if he clears that bar he can do a lot to take these voters who are pretty unhappy about this choice and move them into his column because while they don't hate joe biden, they do many of them hate donald trump. and so i think the more that these voters see of donald trump the more he comes back into their frame, the more they think. oh yeah, i really don't like that guy and i don't feel comfortable putting him in charge of the country at biden's just got to hold the line, right. keep that anti-trump coalition together that you understand, according to reporting, trump's from
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working with senator haggerty? he's one of the senators who has been in they've had this rotating cast of characters who have come in to talk about different policy. >> what's interesting about haggerty is that his name has come up in the context of the vice presidential stakes in the last couple of weeks as i mentioned, marco rubio. rubio is one of the people who was with trump last week. he is one of the top tier candidates. i don't think haggerty is, but it just speaks to the degree to which number one, the republican establishment is coalesced around donald trump and trying to help him in this election. and number two, that they see advantage in having direct time with him this way, it is interesting that he's having all these people come and talk policies, policies, obviously not something that's front and center when you think of donald trump or even in his long rambling rallies, he has a series of agenda items that he can point to you from when he was president and that's what they're trying to focus his mind and on two-year point, a lot of what he has talked about over the last two years has been grievances. >> his court cases. i think he has been so singular and was
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during the manhattan trial. so singularly focused on what was taking place there that they're trying to get his mind back to what he can talk about, about what he did. there are things that i think he can speak to about policy, but there's also a lot lot of stuff that is going to be a problem for him. the january 6 related questions, i think are going to be a problem. the pardons question is going to be a problem. his promises of retribution are going to be a problem when those come up. and i anticipate president biden will reference his criminal conviction. now, i'm quite confident based on my reporting that donald trump will then point to hunter biden's criminal conviction. and this could be an uglier debate than we have seen in a very long time, omega0 referenced the 2020 debate between trump and biden. let's just play some of that vote now going back to make sure you in fact, let people know. he doesn't want to senator question. i'm not going to answer the question because the question is the question of justice the left would you who is on your list?
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you this is on you right, gentlemen. i think friends pax6 court get benningfield. >> i mean, it wasn't on presidential and it is interesting for maggie is reporting that he has said to people, he thinks that was a mistake or not that moment necessarily, but that he was two negative yeah yeah. >> well, two negative and also just the constant interrupting. i mean, remember the audience that matters here at the television audience and watching that on television was unbearable. it was unbearable to watch him just continue to interrupt, continue to berate the moderator. >> and i think again, like it really, really helped joe biden do do the work biden was trying to do there and really kind of showcase. >> this is not the guy that you want in the oval office is temperament, isn't right he's disrespectful and it was really we saw in the data biden campaign after that debate, it was really a turn-off for swing voters, for moderate voters, for suburban voters. so i think to sarah's point, earlier in this conversation, i think this
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is joe biden's task for the debate to connect with those people you saw in that clip, there looking directly to camera, i expect that something he'll do a lot of during this debate as well to really connect with those particularly moderate suburban voters who just can't stomach donald trump maggie haberman, keep betting fields or along well, thank you so much for coming up next. vladimir putin and kim jong-un will show you the young, young pump, but fitting red square and the cold war days and the cold war chill their new defense treaty, chondrule there's also take a lot to moscow and we're lives well in the fire lines in new mexico where hundreds of homes and buildings have now burned a second person has now died. there's also now the threat of flash flooding the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one state i want you two very different visions for america's future. this cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> would white writers lady the
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north korea for the russian president pyongyang thank central square, tens of thousands cheered, waving flags and balloons is their own ruthless autocrat, kim jong stood shoulder to shoulder with the kremlin strong it's been 24 years since putin's last visit here now the national sanctions and have driven him back to the two leaders signing a strategic alliance treaty unwavering. >> they called it heralding a new dangerous phase in cooperation between moscow and pyongyang giotto do not ask them, can you can each level of no. >> this powerful treaty will be very constructive, declared kim jong-un strictly peace-loving and defensive. he said, but it's only see when you go over
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everything clarified the partnership includes mutual assistance in the event of aggression. that's similar to nieto's article five, raising concerns ukrainian attacks on russia could invoke the clause ready. us officials say russia is using north korean ammunition. >> to sustain its barrage on the ukrainian front lines moscow and pyongyang deny arms transfers, which would be in violation of un sanctions. the kremlin needs all the help it can get to win its conflict in ukraine what north korea may get in return, is also concerned. it's space ballistic missile and nuclear programs used to threaten the us and its allies would benefit from russian technologies kremlin says pyongyang has an even asked for help in the most sensitive areas back in pyongyang, the only tech being
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transferred so far it seems to be automotive. the kremlin gifting kim, a russian made limo in which putin then drove him around during a brief into but then it was bad. back to the business of state-sponsored flatter and kim stone-faced at times, sats as the captive audience claps too low to patriotic russian and korean songs leaders opposed to the us and its allies are isolated and sanctioned by the west in pyongyang get least neither looks like a pariah and matthew chance joins us now from moscow. >> so prudent has now moved to vietnam. do we know what is hoping to accomplish in that part of the truth? >> yeah. >> i mean, it's going to be a lot less ambitious. i think that those dramatic scenes that we saw in, in pyongyang, the kremlin says that it wants to
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establish closer cooperation on the nuclear issue nuclear power generation in vietnam. it wants to boost educational exchanges, boost tourism. in other words, a lot more about increasing trade and business ties, lot less about fighting the united states and its allies. anderson had the chance, thanks so much for spectral now from cemetery, former cia in north korea analysts and currently a senior fellow and korea chair at the center for strategic and international studies how significant do you think is this partnership now between russia and north korea? it's significant in this is a big deal. this was, it was leading to this and i think a lot of korea experts were warning about this because north koreans have been supplying russia with weapons, right? they've sent 10,000, over 10,000 containers of munitions and artillery shells and rockets and ballistic missiles and so on to be us and ukraine. and this was very concerning. and if you remember kim jong un winton, russia met with putin
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last fall in september and two months after they successfully launched a satellite or so, when they fail to do so previously. so then there was also a question of, okay, north korea supplying russia with weapons but what is russia now supplying russia? north korea with so now they meet, and now they have this treaty so this is very big deal in vladimir putin was asked about cooperation on atomic issues. >> he said nobody's asked for, they haven't asked for anything. that is obviously the biggest concern. and i would think yes put in giving sensitive military technology and there's a lot the russians can provide because north korea is right now, david, david advancing their program, devyn diversifying, expanding their missile capability, but they need a lot of sensitive technologies to really perfect their capability. >> and that's it's what can juggle. we'll be looking for from putin and the key question is whether putin will do that
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or not. he has some reasons not to do that. he doesn't want to just give away sensitive technology, but his, very desperate. >> there's a reason why putin has not visited north korea in 24 years. he was already sorted dismissive of north korea in pat and pants state russia wanted this north korea is like hundred 98 ranked economy in the world it's a poor say that because when feed it's people, there was a reason why i put into an visits. >> so the fact that now he has visited shows his desperation level. >> you think though this is just sort of a temporary alliance while they're useful for russia. and then once ukraine is resolved, one way or another, that he turns away from them again, people who make that argument because in the past when you look at it in the right i can north korea relationship. there were times when russia practical played no role after the collapse of the soviet union. they to kind of stay away but now, so it depends on what happens with ukraine if the war goes on
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putin will continually need kim jong-un. but if the war ends, does it still need congestion, but still the fact that now they have signed this treaty is still very noteworthy as you warn, in our recent article in foreign affairs, that the us and its allies in the asia-pacific region could face new provocations from north korea. as we get closer to the us presidential election well, typically in a presidential election year when you just historically, north korea likes to act out and conduct provocations and then this is also a year, maybe from kim douglas perspective, he would warn president trump back. >> and once you make trouble for the biden administration and international environment right now is favorable for north korea. there's absolutely no repercussion to whatever north korea does because we have complete inaction at the united nations security council china and russia, obviously, russia is now not. they're not implementing sanctions, they are not playing ball. they're not helping the west at all. so there's no repercussion for north korea. if i'm kim jong-un
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myself, if i'm advising you, don't what i would say, go ahead and perfect your nuclear missile capability. so to increase its leverage. so when north korea does get down with united states potentially trump when he comes back then they have more leverage. north korea has every incentive in the world to continue ramp up its wmd capabilities. >> you read her. thank you so much. appreciate it coming up more on what to expect next week, cnn presidential debate. i'll speak with man who played the role of donald trump during prison. biden's practice two sessions back in 2020 they are unpredictable sleeping giants. every volcano has its own personality. or if we don't understand them, they are windows into in part of our planet lives will be lost. >> violent, earth would liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn, the bike riders, i built this club out on some people would rather crack then slow down like writers we did are
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>> you are. >> an american saga only in theaters given 28, bridget, our today louisiana became the first state in the country to require the ten commandments be on display in every public school classroom from kindergarten to state funded universities under a bill signed by republican governor jeff landry under the new state law, which will take effect in 2025, the commandments must be poster size and a large, easily readable font in a joint statements of liberties groups and other opponents, including americans united for separation of church and state say, they'll file a lawsuit challenging the law, calling it bluntly unconstitutional. joining us now, proud son of louisiana democratic strategist james carville and cnn senior political commentator scott jennings, who served in the george w bush administration. i should have said, set proud son of carville, louisiana. so james what do you make as new law in your home state? >> well, i think given storm season is coming up with ten commands, we need to hail mary. >> there would be much more appropriate, but what we face
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right here, and i don't know which one it got put up as ten different versions at a time. and commandments and our schools are so underfunded that i'm not sure happening. kids even know how to read them, but if one of the dumbest waste of time to ever seen in my life, the schools in louisiana traditionally have very low in the rankings of schools in america mercalli, it's gone up. i think free k through 12 has gone up a little bit in recent years, but has not by much company adwords. john bell did a great job i mean, he take goddess often bottom, but government landry's content on partners back on the bottom, it seems like, but i'm serious ship when i look at this storm season in the summer, coming ahead just going to be a fundamentally different country come get october of this year. it's going to really be bad. >> scott. i mean, is this a violation of the first amendment? is establishment clause separation of church and state i don't know. >> i mean, maybe maybe not. i mean, that's for courts to decide. i don't have a particular problem with this. if somebody wants to hang up a
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piece of paper in a school room says, hey, kids don't murder, don't steal don't lie and respect your parents. you and that doesn't bother me. i'm not out here crusading for it and i certainly don't think public school teachers should be preachers but these are the fundamental tenants of western civilization. they kinda underpinned our entire criminal justice system in a look, if they're part of a historical display, if they're hanging up there next to their constitution, the mayflower compact, the declaration of independence i don't have a problem with that. i do think it's sort of amusing that there are people out here. so enraged by this today, who had the same time would love to use public schools and public libraries and other public facilities to distribute information that more matches their own agendas so i think people are overreacting to this and the courts are going to have to get involved and see what the see what the interpretation of the laws are james that mr. difference between having something a book in a library and something posted? >> student every classroom from the lock book barnea talking points. >> all right. >> these people want to burn books, take about a libraries you can't substitute greed and
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writing arithmetic. >> we're like i say yeah, but the courts, i have to flush this out, but thousand founding documents kentucky had a similar law of complementary can read them, right who knows what this court will do, but the blame it up it'll go right up the legal system or what i find passing nightmares, the book burners really want to ten commandments give me a break. it's got how much of this really is about quality public i'm sorry, go ahead. it's i i worry about, i worry about the quality of public education everywhere. >> i worry especially about it coming out of the pandemic when you you have an epidemic of kids who have just disappeared, they can't find kids, right? >> but is this really about the quality of public education or is about election year politics and trying to get another so-called religious freedom case in front of the supreme court but i don't i don't necessarily think teaching basic, fundamental values of western civilization is in
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congruent or in opposition to also having quality education in a school system. >> and if i might, i do respect the hell out of james carville. he's a legend in our business and for people who do what i do but you are not going to set on this television at night and called me a book burner i do not believe in burning books. i strongly believe in the first amendment. i have no interest in restricting any the information, and i straw i strongly reject the ad hominem attack. we could disagree on this, but you're not going to come up with her own tv, right well, the correlation between book burners and paste but i want to ten commandments is high. >> i can tell you that your warrant, but 80% of the book burners want to be now, there's a high correlation there. and he wanted to talk about fundamental american value he was trying to first amendment but that's me. >> for the record, i will say i have not heard scott jennings talk about burning any books anytime that i've a lot a lot. there's a lot of bananas at what i hear, what you're saying. in james correlation. james carville. appreciate your time. scott jennings as well. thank you more. now, on our top story tonight, presidential
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debate prep with the first showdown right here on cnn, eight days from now, as new york times, maggie haberman told us moments ago, the former president is taking part in policy sessions loose with his advisers rather than mach, debates. for now whereas frozen biden will reportedly once again to be undergoing more traditional debate prep back in 2020. my next guest helped in that effort for them, candy biden by playing the part of trump let's prison biden's personal attorney, bob bauer there, who was the white house council during the obama administration. the days by bowers, the author of a new book, the unraveling reflections on politics without ethics and democracy in crisis. i spoke to him earlier mr. bauer, thanks for joining us. you wrote in the book, you said, whatever happens, i will have the memories of the biden trump debates in which ai is donald trump played my part lying and blustering and bullying my way through the mock sessions. i was expected to be at my trump worst as personally insulting and unhinged as trump can be. and quote how did you go about preparing for that any debate
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prep involves immersing yourself in whatever the candidate who you are playing immersing yourself in whatever they have said videos of their interviews, videos of their speeches speeches, so that you can really seriously, i mean, not by way of doing some sort of comic impression, but seriously model out what the experience of debating will be like. >> and that's how you prepare, you prepare intensively by just exposing yourself to that material, video and writing, audio as extensively as you possibly can be for the prep begins how in the debate perhaps that i have done oftentimes when you know, everything a candidate has said it is very effective as preparation because they often do repeat the same leinz literally in some of the same intonations. how accurate were you in your debate prep?
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>> well, and all the debate perhaps that you do, you absolutely hope to achieve accuracy. you're trying to be helpful. to the debate prep process. and so you're looking to provide an experience that is close to what will actually happen as possible and i'm sure i missed a few steps along the way. >> each debate prep is different. >> each session within debate prep is different. but you're absolutely right. the key is to be accurate and then you judge yourself by how the candidate that you played actually turns up how that candidate actually performs when the debate occurs. >> your book, the unraveling, it's about politics without ethics and a democracy and crisis you write in the book, and another presidential campaign is underway and the democracy is being tested once more, trump and his confederates face prosecution for the events of january 6. and yet his party has embraced election denialism, proclaiming that the political system is fraudulent to the core rig to disfavor republicans and steal votes for democrats. trump is running for president on a
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platform with this claim front and center in a solid majority of his party stands behind him just on saturday at a charlie kirk event. the former president was once again railing about stop the steal and about mail-in ballots and how dangerous they are. i mean, is faith in america's democratic traditions? is it a reverent copley undermined in your view i mean, it's if it's unraveled, is there a way to get it back together to tie it together yes. absolutely. there is. i think it's a bipartisan effort. i mean, the book is written of course by me as someone who's been involved in democratic party politics for a very long time. but i wrote it. i think with the intention of looking over experiences that i've had and thinking about how we possibly got to this point. and i conclude by giving examples, were democrats and republicans have come together recently.
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and attempted to find common ground around the basic defense of democratic institutions and norms like our elections i've had the opportunity to talk to election officials around the country, including republicans. they're very serious about their jobs. they care profoundly about are voting systems and the communities that they serve care about them too. so i think there's a foundation of fundamental devotion to those sorts of principles of democratic self-governance that we can continue to draw on and cultivate even in the face of this very difficult polarization that we're facing in the country's politics the fundamental point that i'm trying to get across and i use my personal experiences to try to give this point some life. >> is that everyone in public life and government and politics in journalism have choices to make. >> what i call ethical choices. and those choices have to be made, have to be considered then made with a view toward their impact on democratic practices and norms and institutions. now, more than ever, by bearer, the new book
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is the unraveling reflections on politics without ethics and democracy in crisis thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me coming up next. we're breaking news to fast-moving wildfires, taking aim at one part of new mexico, thousands forced to flee and the death toll climbing. >> i love live report from the scene when we come back the most anticipated moment of this election and mistakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president's one stage moderated by jake tapper for an dana bash, the cnn presidential debates thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> what if we don't get down in time to get a birthday gift for zoe, don't panic with etsy. we can find the perfect gift and send her a preview right away thanks guy don't panic, just easy with etsy did read this i did i get my keys memory and thinking issues, keep piling up. it may be due
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watch all do episodes of in practical jokers on a new network july 11 tds you're breaking news from new mexico were second death was just reporters, officials tried to battle fast spreading and still uncontrolled wildfires. >> the pictures they're just extraordinary. they're tearing through tribal land and villages. the south fork fire as it's known but 115 miles by air south east of albuquerque has forced 8,000 people to flee their homes it's already destroyed about 1,400 houses and buildings. ed lavandera, joyce's now from there. ed, explain what you've been seeing, where where you are well andersen the challenges for first responders and firefighters on the ground here continued just to pile up, we'd had a brief thunderstorm that rolled through here. >> the hope had been that it would begin the process and rainfall of trying to tamp down these fires, but it is created. other problems, the national weather service is reporting up in the mountains. you see behind me mudslides, there's also been widespread flooding
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along the main evacuation route that heads east out of the ruidoso, new mexico area as well. so you know, just other problems that have resulted from just what it was it's a brief storm that blew through here. there is more rain expected at some point, either tonight or into tomorrow as well they would need that because if you look out there in the distance that is the main fire that has now consuming between the two fires, 23,000 acres and all of that smoke continues to build out there in the mountains. >> you spoke some people add two back the way it was their experience like it's just treacherous and endangers. you're talking about this. you were mentioning the second death has been reported that was someone who was found in there car according to officials here in new mexico, other people who just told us just just terrifying stories as they were scrambling to get out. we spoke with michael scott who left his home with his wife, three dogs, and he was able to drive to another neighborhood and pick up his
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mother and they left the scene. this is what he describes scene on his way out we've reached a point where it was just a solid black gown. i've never seen anything like it, but the thing that kind of startled me more than anything, my trick was the being hit with chunks of ash. i could feel them hidden the hood and the gray almost like a gray rain hitting my truck but i understand tonight, you know, this city of mountain village of ruidoso, new mexico, just still we'll feels like a smoked out ghost town. anderson, 11 derek, thanks so much coming up next, how major league baseball is paying tribute to one of the greatest athletes ever played the game. we remember the iconic willie mays, this juneteenth holiday there's destiny about verizon on june 28, horizon arrives in theater if you're strong long enough, tough enough, you can make what's out there. you
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cnn celebrate juneteenth with special performances by john legend eddie lewbel, smokey robinson. we still have a lot of work to do juneteenth celebrating freedom and legacy. next, don't see a baseball is lost. the legend hall of famer willie mays passed way tuesday at the age of 93, got to start in the leagues before becoming first is sensation than a superstar? all right, then a
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legend would the giants first in new york and later in san francisco. willie mays no. to generations of fans as the say, hey kid is widely considered to be among the best ever to play the game, if not the best the league had been set to honor him tomorrow night at a game in alabama as part of a series paying tribute to the leagues meant to coincide with juneteenth cnn's ryan young is in birmingham tonight outside rickwood field. were a teenage willie mays launch, one of the most remarkable careers in baseball. what's the scene they're like time you're talking about an ultimate superstar here, anderson, you got to think what baseball means this country and the fact that the african-american men who broke the color barrier in baseball stood for more than just the sport. they meant something to the entire community at juneteenth into that and baseball really has come up with a pretty good rest to be here. if you look behind us, the history of the leagues is behind us. and now there's a conversation that's happening. there are so many people who have come here, white and black who are talking about june
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he's but at the same time, they're getting a chance to mix in the history. >> this is the oldest ballpark that's left in america. >> and we're better else to celebrate a man who lived so long, but so fruitful of a life that not only did black people celebrate, my people celebrate, and of course, baseball fans across the world celebrated willie mays we will, always cherish the memory of the great really a standing ovation for willie mays tuesday night in birmingham during a minor league game at rickwood field son crowd learning of the passing of the birmingham native hall of famer and american icon who died tuesday at 93 just to hear this present dollars to will amaze them that hurts rickwood field, the oldest professional ballpark in
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the us is the same field where mays began his career as a player in the leagues thursday and honor of juneteenth major league baseball is set to host a regular season game at rickwood field between the st. louis cardinals and the san francisco giants, mays, former team the game which is set to include tribute to the league. and mays will now be a national remembrance to mays, willie, he is my idol and when he passed last night, i had tears tears coming down may he rest in peace? >> baseball always come easily view? >> yes. yes. i never had a problem with best known as the say, hey, kid may started playing with the leagues birmingham black barons in 1948 at the age of 17 in 1951, he made his major league debut with the new york giants at the age of 20. one of the most
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memorable plays came in game one of the 1954 world series mays making a truly miraculous catch and deep center field over his shoulder he would go on to play in 24 all-star games winning 12 gold gloves awards before retiring in 1973 and 1979, he was inducted into the house hello fame. in 2015. then president barack obama presented mays with the presidential medal of freedom is because of giants like willie that someone like me could even think about running for president recently mlb incorporated statistics of former league players into its record books, which added ten more career hits camay's mlb record from his time playing with the birmingham black barons earlier this month. >> mays reacted to that news in a statement to cnn, say never expected. i'd get ten more career hits this year. it must be some kind of record for a 93-year-old his gods barry bonds, posted a tribute to mays
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on instagram saying i'm beyond devastated and overcome with emotion. i have no words to describe what you mean to me. you helped shape me to be who i am today with mays passing on many hearts and minds. the mayor, birmingham says, his spirit and legacy will never die look, i think every city has a hero. >> are heroes? let's be very clear about this. willie mays is a hero to birmingham, alabama, not just on the field, but what he meant to little black hi boys and girls. feel and for generations to come i'm in a true hero for so many have the celebrations they taken on new significance lighter willie mays, his passing they've been quite fantastic actually, anderson, as a kid, i remember getting willie mays autograph. i can remember my father but are talking about with amazing what he stood up for. you see attributes like this. he's up here ever standing over. i
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would say more than half the people wearing his jersey today we're white americans and of course, you don't have to say it that way anymore. you can just say american. so you think about the ultimate sacrifice that he made playing fields that people would scream at him having to go to separate bathrooms. all these things he conquered. he never took the no. for an answer. so that will always stand and you put all this together with where we are right now. it's a wonderful place. to see the sugars that are being paid to him. and you know, there'll be going on for quite some time as they say, the greatest of all time. >> ryan young, thanks so much. next, dr. sanjay gupta, on-call paul with the answers to your questions about preventing alzheimer's this is no secret, war, secrets and spies sunday at ten on cnn copd hasn't been pretty it's tough to breathe and tough to keep wondering if this this is good as it gets metrology as shown me that
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sanjay is latest documentary, the last alzheimer's patient, which is now streaming on max part of our parent company. we asked you to submit your questions last night and sanjay, who's a neurosurgeon, our chief medical correspondent here with answers to some of them. so sanjay gita from houston asked, can daily mental exercises are doing words with friends or paper-based crossword puzzles to reduce your odds of getting dementia yes. >> so this is one of the most common questions we get and there's all this focus on brain training, sorts of exercises. and what is interesting is if you look at the de bound, this things like crossword puzzles and word games and things like that mainly make you better at doing crossword puzzles and word games they may improve your working memory to some extent, but not really. a lot of evidence that showed they decrease your risk of dementia. what they did find was doing activities that are a little different for you. so painting for example, learning a new instrument, learning a new language, those types of things make a much bigger difference in terms of the potentially reducing your risk of dementia.
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the best evidence anderson was really around movement and brisk exercise, not necessarily intense exercise. that was the best shot at growing new brain cells and doing it with somebody else. so you have that connection probably even better. so i always say take a brisk walk with a close friend over a crossword puzzle that's probably going to do a better job at reducing your risk of future dementia. >> jesse from atlanta asked you suggest those that have a family history of all timers get the screening, the test that you took as a baseline. and at what age are not necessarily a lot of people want to know how they can test and what early warning signs they should look out for yeah. so the testing that i did that you saw some of this last night. we have some images of this. i did this with dr. isaacson, done in boca that was part of a clinical trial. i do think that that's sort of testing which i got to tell you anderson was actually pretty intense i mean, like quickly, name as many words as you can starting with the letter t go,
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how many animals can you name? the longer the animal, the more unusual animal, the better things like that, but also things like your, your, your bone scan and all these other sorts of things. they all make a difference. there is a website called retain your brain.com. you can go to that website. and i'll give you an idea of the sort of cognitive testing that's available out there. if you're worried, you have a family history, you can do that sort of testing on your own. >> i know there's a lot of backlog and a lot of places for those tests. leinz from north carolina very quickly, he says, my mind my mother and grandmother had alzheimer's. should i be tested for it? >> what do you think i'm a fan of testing. >> i think that the testing has there's genetic testing. the vast majority of people who develop alzheimer's do not necessarily have a strong genetic family history of this. only about 1% of people will have a genetic thank mutation that's directly passed down but there's a lot of other testing out there now, including what's called a phosphorylated tau test.