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daughter was killed in a car crash. a scholarship was created in her honore. but now it's one of more than 100 130 scholarships that have been changed or on hold now because of a ban on diversity programs at public universities in texas. and we've all heard about the 40 acres and a mule promise made after the civil war but did any freed slaves actually get any acres? i'll speak to an investigative journalists about what she found with her team. so that's coming up all right. >> looking forward to it, we watch you. all right. let's get to it right now well first of all, atlanta is hot right now. yeah, it's gonna be in the 90s today, but that's not what i'm talking about. the debate is here in five days, president biden, former president trump, their campaigns, the surrogates all here for the biggest moment yet of the 2024 campaign,

cnn's presidential debate. it's right across the hall, actually but there is another big event that politicos are paying close attention to copa america. it's a soccer tournament some of the biggest stars in our hemisphere are playing and it all started thursday in atlanta and the biden campaign sees an opening here to reach latino voters. they have a new ad airing during the games with a football theme four years ago, we were shut down stadiums were empty. trump failed us. >> but then joe biden took over trump talks talks. joe biden gets it done so that ad is about leadership and the economy at the top issue for latinos, often followed by immigration. >> now, just this month, the president made two major moves on border issues. this week, he announced executive action to allow certain undocumented spouses and children of us citizens to apply for lawful permanent residency without

leaving the country. earlier, the president announced limits on protections for asylum seekers who cross the border illegally in the white house and the biden campaign have seen the recent polls that suggests republicans even third parties here are gaining ground with latino voters, is any of this likely to have an impact? let's now talk about this with mike madrid. he's a veteran political strategists and author of the brand new book out this week, the latino century, how america's largest minority is transforming democracy. also with us is daniel garza, president of the libre initiative surbatovic hispanic group. thank you. both of you, mike, let me start with you. you warn democrats that their continued loss of latino voters specifically could be the key to a trump reelection. is it that democrats are getting it wrong? or is it that republicans are getting it right primarily question it's

actually a great question. >> it's actually a function of both, although most of the movement towards the republican party, which has been happening for about a decade now since the high of 2012 and the obama years it's happening despite republican efforts, not because of that. most of the evidence suggests that there's a larger demographic shift that's happening with third and now even fourth generation latino voters. that's where most of the voter growth is. and there's clearly an economic populist strain that is driving most of the the sentiment voters. the presence exactly the right one. the answer is it is probably a function of both but the opportunity for both democrats to bring a lot of the latino voters back into historical range is as great as it is for the republicans to push for even higher historic levels. >> daniel, let me get about trump campaign. latino voter outreach, because with black outreach, we see the events that the former president is

attending the church event, the roundtable in detroit the cigars and cognac that several members of congress have attended. what is the latino outreach from? from the trump campaign? i know they changed the branding from latinos for trump to latino americans for trump. but what's, what's it look like? practically well from my observation, viktor or what i'm seeing is that they're going where latinos are, they are connecting in a very real way in the sense that i think whether the sentiment that you have to get across one is that you care and second is that your ideas are superior to your opponent and so it's just so important that showing that you care means you show up, right? >> you understand what our priorities are. you willing to listen? you don't come to impose your own agenda. but you want to get a feel for where latinos are at. and right now, the messages that biden is not delivering for latinos. and so trump is pouncing on that, right? the reality is that

working latinos are not getting a square deal. they are bearing through the ravages of reckless spending, high inflation and high interest rates we just had an anemic 1.3 gdp growth in the last quarter. and that's what artificial economy that's been inflated with 6 trillion in spending. >> so this is what the trump campaign is, captain into and economic message above an immigration message, because the economic and inflation message regardless of race and age group, is really what we're seeing at the top across polls. >> and mike, let me bring that to you because as we're talking about i mentioned that the trump campaign rename they're out reach from latinos for trump to latino americans for trump. i read that you have concern or criticism of the biden campaign's latino outreach. it's called latinos con biden harris. and what that suggests about they're strategy, what is your concern

well, the whole premise of my book is that the massive growth and latino voter latinos in the voter rolls is happening with third and fourth generation american, latino americans who view themselves by two-thirds margin more as americans than with a latino ethnic identity. >> so what donald trump is making this to literally add that the name americans, it's not a coincidence. it's research-based. they know what they're doing. that's where the massive voter growth is happening. the biden campaign is resorted to sort of an old 1970s, 1980s model of this stereotypical caricature of a spanish speaking more recently migrated latino voter. there's nothing nefarious about it or bad about it. it's just probably not very effective anymore that's kinda the full tactic again, with used more last century than this century. so both campaigns are really speaking to two very different motor groups in the latino community. and for right now,

the math is starting to benefit where the trump campaign is heading. but we're gonna have to wait and see which which, which is going to battle i'm more for turnout and b. most successful in november. >> yeah, my god, i read an excerpt from your book and where you says that they need to step up and talk to latinos like real people, not props in an old movie or pay the consequences daniel, let me come to you because you've long been critical of former president trump's messaging on immigration. i want to play something that he said in the 2016 campaign and then something he said in this campaign and then get your reaction. >> sure. >> the sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems with us they're bringing drugs they're bringing crime they're rapists. and some i assume are good people. >> they come by the millions and millions and millions they come from mental institutions, they come from jails, prisoners

some of the toughest mean his people, you'll ever see you wrote after trump said that in 2015, that it is our hope that mr. trump reconsiders his insensitive rhetoric focuses on sensible and effective immigration policy position and contributes to a more positive and constructive dialogue. >> the american voter deserves better. well, he hasn't reconsider sinner. he hasn't offered anything different by your frame working isn't any better. what's your assessment of his rhetoric today i mean, it's still the same course, uncouth narratives but what's interesting is that i think some folks find that appealing. >> i mean what they want is to get to the truth deal with the with the problem, and find the solutions even so, for example, that you started the segment talking about this sort of clever campaign with a copa america. and i think it's smart actually that biden does that. but if you're not connecting on the top priorities impacting our community pointing to the real outcomes, real increases

in opportunity and productivity. >> i think it'll be seen as window dressing and shallow ping at a politics. >> they don't see that with trump to trump just get sort of gets to the point and tries to find the solution. i think he's a fighter as well. phenols will tell you not this campanian, the cheap for this mere pandering campaigning with no real substance in which you're not earning our vote by talking about the merits of policy. it like you would with any other constituency just seems like it's superficial and this is where biden gets in trouble to make madrid's point all right. >> mike madrid, i also did not mention you're one of the co-founders of the lincoln project as well. >> and daniel garza. thank you for being with us. mike's book again, the latinos century is out. now, i remember thursday, jacob dana will moderate the cnn presidential debate live here in atlanta again, right across the whole. it begins at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn and streaming on max so diversity,

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aubrey were star players on the women's basketball team at texas a&m commerce. they were killed in a car crash in 2014 in a statement of the dallas morning news, the state senator who authored the bill banning dei at state school said the law makes clear that taxpayer funds should not be spent conferring special benefits based on race, color, or ethnicity joining us now is devin oliver's father, richard oliver, sir, thank you for being with me. and first, i just want to be clear here so people understand this scholarship is not funded by taxpayers. this is not public money. this is funded by donations, am i correct? >> that is correct. this ship is funded by local local communities and alumni and local businesses. there's no tax funding whatsoever. >> so some of the requirements here for recipient is that it'd be a black female with a

gpa of 3.0 or higher end an athlete tell me why you chose or why those requirements, those criteria were chosen? >> so those requirements were chosen particularly because it's fits the profile of my daughter's devin oliver, and awkward both who are african-american females both had high academic achievements both play basketball and the same team and so our primary focus was to honor who they were as individuals and what better way to do that than to establish scholarship that fits who they were as young lady and i wonder now, what is your reaction now that it's been put on hold and what you think about this now, becoming as political as it is relating to this scholarship? yeah i just think that there's just too much hypersensitivity hypersensitivity to this dei

program. and its, it's frustrating because in my mind, it dishonors spoke mark daughter, and arbery to two over politicize and hyperscale the situation, it's, it's just not necessary. it's not appropriate, and it does define our daughters and their achievements and what the university, texas a&m commerce university has done in established in scholarship. and there's just so much more than the university done. jason burden, their head coach there. the university established a an academic center and within that academic center, there's run one room. it's named after devon an opera next in addition to this scholarship, more expansion, there was one element of this story that i found i'm pretty disheartening. it's how you found out that the scholarship was even on hold. tell everyone how you did she have. >> so i had no clue about that.

i think it was maybe last week that a local reporter in dallas gave me a call and ask if i had heard of that, told him we'd never heard until actually receiving that kopan here. that was disheartening broke more harm to hear what these political, local political leaders here in dallas, texas, what their approach to this whole thing is. yeah, it said that you didn't even get any heads up from and i know you are grateful to the university for their support, but that no one even called you to tell you that this was on hold. >> i wonder if the requirements have to change and you remove that. it has to be a female, it has to be a black female. to receive this scholarship does that change the honore does that change this fundamentally for you well, i mean, it would because it's going to take away from who are children were

and the whole idea behind is victor is, you know, when you think about the situation when african-american here in these united states and the focus is on, on young lady's black females who were on those under-privileged and privileged and disadvantaged communities. >> and we'll just want to reach out and help those individuals to help level the playing. and that's developed go now if the scholarship is subject to be stricken, are removed from the program. >> that's the last thing that i'd want to happen. and that would completely dishonor our daughters, our be willing to accept any student and you can remove the race aspect of it. >> alright. richard oliver, i thank you for sharing your story with me thank you the group of voters. democrats need to win the white house. they know this black women a new survey reveals their top issue heading into the 2024 race and how they feel about choosing

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but in the battleground, state of michigan support for biden has dropped compared to 2021 and five black women there, according to the survey, 18% plan to vote for former president trump. >> adria gillespie is with us. she is an expert on polling and associate professor at emory university has now achieved friend of the show status. you've been on so many times, so i appreciate having you with us this morning let's start here with a disbelief because there are plenty of people who are watching. i'm sure you have heard it. you may also believe it and when they see these numbers, the high teens, low 20s of black voters who say they'll vote for trump there are people say there's no way that's going to happen. it would be historic and they discount the numbers you say to that what wael, one of the things that i would keep in mind is that the sub-samples of blacks in these surveys are still very, very small. >> so for surveys from the kaiser family foundation, for instance, that just came out the sample size is a black and brown women are between 14195

so there's still a lot of variability in these surveys. and so these numbers due suggests that the true number of might actually be kind of on the low end of what the projected scale is that being said, if you're the biden campaign and this is all the information you have. i think these numbers suggest that there's possible room for growth. and if you don't want to take anything for granted, then the message here is to make sure that you redouble your efforts to reach out to communities of color, particularly african-american women even on the low end though considering how tight some of these states have been or were in 2020, michigan, georgia arizona, i mean, that could be enough to end the biden administration. how do they get to the enthusiasm gap? specifically for black women? >> well, a lot of voters are dissatisfied with the options of having to relitigate the 2020 election with joe biden and donald trump. and until this summer, they're going to have to make their peace with the fact that the nominees

might not be the ones that they want, but they've got to make a decision between the ones that they have and so the probability of somebody's turning out to vote as a combination of how close the election is, how much you care about whether or not one candidate wins the cost of voting. and then these unspecified factors that could include things like civic duty or whether or not you were mobilized. and so what i suspect the biden campaign is going to do is they're going to try to draw straight sharp contrast between biden and trump i expect that donald trump or biden is going to say a lot about trump's felony conviction this thursday in the election to try to convince these skeptical or tired voters that look seriously, there are real differences. this is not tweedledee. tweedledum. and they're also going to play into moles publication and they're actually going to call on people to exercise their civic duty and to remind them of the responsibilities of citizenship, even if you don't necessarily like the choices that are available to you, andra as it relates to issues according to the kff survey? at

the top was inflation and the economy we know that the democratic party has been focused a lot on a woman's right to choose abortion since the dobbs decision, give us an idea, just gauge the messaging that works specifically for black black and hispanic women as they tried to to excite these voters to come out. >> well, black and brown women are not mandalas. and so one message is not going to be sufficient to reach these voters or to persuade them to vote. so if we think about abortion, the reason why democrats are talking about it so much is that they've noticed that it is increasing since salience for democratic voters in ways that abortion used to be able to add to activate republican voters when they were advocating for the end of roe versus wade. so they hope that that reaches some segment of the population. but given the fact that kitchen table issues are at the top of many of voters minds president biden is going to have to come

up with a plan and a message to show what he's done and to show that he's actually sensitive to and responsive to the concerns that people have about rising prices. and it's not just to say prices are going down or inflation isn't as bad as it was last year or two years ago. he's going to have to demonstrate empathy and then he's going to have to demonstrate action as well. >> andhra. we've i think at least twice we've talked about how sometimes it's hard to know what the different groups within the community of color believe about a specific issue. i looked at a poll today and there was a category specifically for white suburban within women with a college education and if you look over to the people of color, it's blacks hispanics right? why is this considering things are so tight and these different groups are so crucial to a win that we're not seeing better representation in these polls. >> well, i mean, the sample sizes are restricted by size.

and so the kaiser family foundation surveys usually had somewhere between 700 and about 1,300 respondents, depending on which one we were looking at here. and then these were not focused specifically on for can american women are latinas. and so as a result, we're looking at small subsections. and when you only have 140 responses or you only have 195 responses, you can't bifurcate that further with any type of statistical power to be able to say anything so what's needed are more surveys that are done where the focus is exclusively on voters of color. so that we can get that type of granularity and get that type of subgroup variation. so one example of a survey that does have larger sample sizes that's been recently reported, was a survey that piu conducted in april where they had where they focus exclusively on african-american some voters and where they had much larger sample sizes, where we can kind of dissect the vote based on other types of group characteristics other than just engender. >> andhra gillespie, always

learn something when you're on. i appreciate your time. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> president biden and former president trump will get the chance to answer questions on important is she's jake and dana will moderate the cnn presidential debate live here in atlanta, thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn and streaming on max. so last year on juneteenth, i heard from so many people who are moved by what i discovered when i looked into my family history street thanks to the international african american museum and charleston, south carolina. i was able to trace my lineage back to my ancestor, sarah, who sued for her her freedom from slavery. and one, well now there's a new discovery to tell you about. after i looked into the origins of my last name, that's next the most anticipated the moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash.

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my family learned about a astonishing history that brought me to tears this is i was covering the opening of the international african-american museum in charleston, south carolina. and through the genealogists in its center for family history, i learned that in the late 18th century and enslaved woman in northumbria county, virginia named sarah my seven times great grandmother, sued her enslaver for her freedom and the freedom of her descendants and one dr. shelley murphy is the centers director here, line started out in slave in became free to up until where you're at right now yeah. >> hi how are you good to see recently, i invited dr. murphy to baltimore to meet my mother and my cousins all overwhelmed by the discovery we all black all beneficiaries of sarah is groundbreaking lawsuit women's

step up. >> and speak out about their freedom back. then it was just incredible that threat of being killed or sold unbelievable unbelievable. >> and that's something that should go generations that just blew me away, that this was in our blood line, you know, sometimes you think it but, you know we are bow and you know, as said that our parents especially are far yeah. who will blackwells? >> not and i didn't know it. >> it would've been a story that they would have been so proud and would have passed it all to us yeah, they know. >> and last summer, my mother and our cousins drove to the county where sarah won her freedom to pass that story on while, we took a trip down to noaa family county? yes. last summer blackwell reunion. we

didn't know how the n again met fan i'm long and then find out more about the blackwell said, unfortunately, we didn't know much about outside of the family growing up that journey begins here in montgomery alabama with brian stevenson. >> he's the executive director of the equal justice initiative, and it's new massive national monument to freedom. >> it's created by reviewing the 18, 70 census and the 18 70 census. in the united states was the first time that formerly enslaved people had an opportunity to claim a surname that the government would recognize more than 122,000 surnames on this wall, front and back, about four stories tall and about half the length of a football field? >> yes. we want to tell the story about the jr.'s and the degradation and the violence of slavery. but we also want to tell the other story about the resilience of enslaved people, about the courage, the strength

perseverance there you are just jumped out at there it is. yes, it is. >> i'm about the seed that name with the 120 32,000 yeah. >> it is both humbling but also gives my family place. yes. that's right. >> 40% of the people who went to slave claim names that were associated with enslavers, not two honor the enslaver, but they were just trying to create kinship and community with brothers and sisters and parents that want to give up on that. so they adopted those names. >> we've been sold off putting exactly the blackwell line came in to the virginia colonies and 60 in 36 joseph blackwell up in to north number month. dr. murphy and other genealogists traced three blackwell family lines coming into the colonies. but murphy was only able to connect my line to the start of the 19th century there's a mishnaic blackwell and amishi

junior blackwell. and the first one was born about 18:10. >> my great, great, great, great grandfather, just because of the area virginia, nine times out of ten but have been enslaved. >> i've never really heard much about the blackboard so to hear this, and they get information on this is 60 value there are so many more questions to be answered, but the more we look, the more we learn, the more we appreciate our ancestors. >> and their will to persevere. >> i think to know you are the heir of people who found a way to survive who found a way to overcome all of the hardship is something that, that should generate pride yeah, this journey to find out more about my ancestors has fueled curiosity throughout my family. >> look at this. these are

pictures of the copy of the lawsuit that sara filed in the late 18th century that's the one in my home. that's the one in my mother's home. the others are in cousins homes. it's not only a marker to show our gratitude to sara and filing that lawsuit against her enslaver. but it's also an acknowledgement and remembrance of those who suffered through and survived slavery so you probably learned in school about the 40 acres and a mule promise to freed men and women after the civil war but did anyone actually get their acres? >> this is a fascinating new series that i want you to listen to and read. >> i'm going to bring it to you next historically, the soviet union killed tricks i started to run to kgb cars had come behind us, i guess. >> i didn't know what to do. secrets and spies. a nuclear game tomorrow at ten on cnn.

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we'll send you a free book to answer questions you may have called now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 you might have first heard about reparations when you're history class covered the 40 acres and a mule promise, while the new series makes plain that the promise of 40 acres was a lie a team of reporters led by the center for public integrity used artificial intelligence to sift through records to find 1,250 black men and women. they actually did get acres of land as reparations only to have it taken away. alexia fernandez campbell is a lead reporter on this series and joins us alexia. thank you for your time. thank you for this series. and you told one of my producers that there are reconstruction era historians who've long known that there were some of freed men and women who got this land. >> i don't think most people outside of the profession knew that some people got the promissory or possessory notes

for just a period tell us what you found as you went back to some of these communities in georgia and south carolina, and spoke with the descendants on both sides of ownership or possession of this land yeah, it was it was really a fascinating story, especially trying to figure out what happened to that land where it is today, we found it made many gated communities because this land was on the coast. so you can imagine it's expensive coastal real estate today. so i went to a gated community that were nearly 100 people had gotten land titles and no one there had any idea that land titles had been given. so yeah, it's been amazing. a colleague of mine went to south carolina, interviewed also the descendants of the freedmen's and slaver who got their land back and had some really difficult conversations. >> yeah. and i just tweeted out a link to the 40 acres and

ally, a report i listened to part one. part two is just out today. i want to play just a clip that you provided of part two, and this is when you go to i believe it's skin away hey, island in georgia and present some of the documentation from the 19 century. let's why so here i'm showing you two different land titles of two friedman who got 40 acres on the plantation. >> that is where your house is located. >> so we didn't know that they were paperwork involved in that. it was paperwork involved in it. it was just sort of spoken from the field that was how we perceived it just spoken from the field. so never did we think that anything beyond that happened and my brother who was a captain anomie, he he understood feel orders and then he was in a tiny he didn't even know it is it surprising to you to see that there were these actual land titles given but his, you know, you could feel chills. >> they know that they had it

and then they just pulled it. the role from under them, so to speak. >> yeah. this is breaking news really for some and it just took me and briefly, how was that land than revoked yeah. >> you know, people were living on it for a long time. they were they were planting rice and cotton and selling it in savannah, thinking this was their land because they act, they were told it was so eventually the freedmen's bureau agents, who were federal agency told them, sorry president johnson, pardon the former slavers you're going to have to either leave or get enough to work for your former enslavers. so you can imagine what that must have been, what kind of news i must have been yeah, the land is in georgia and south carolina, as i said, but the impact obviously is far broader than that because of what that wealth would have meant for families that spread beyond those states, how should this inform our conversation about reparations? >> today yeah, there's one

number that really jumped out at me. >> one of my colleagues particular paul, is trying to figure out how much is 40 acres, just the land worth in that gated community that you heard linda, she was one of the only black people who lives there. but it's a very wealthy, many golf courses. so try to determine looking at the line values, 40 acres there today is worth about 22 million without a on it, without anything. so that just gives you a sense of the kind of generational wealth that was lost when it wasn't passed on. and it sweeps found descendants of the friedman who got land in the 40 acres region. have migrated all over the united states, found people in descendants in michigan and ohio and new york, virginia, alabama. >> so it's just shows you that this is something that affects people today all over the united states. >> black americans alexia fernandez campbell, again, it is a fascinating series and i've only listened to the part one. thank you so much for your work. all 1,250 names and links to the documents found are

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before the tribute game and rickwood field in alabama, he played there for the birmingham barons before he moved to the mlb now, reggie jackson also played at rickwood field decades ago and he was asked how it felt to be back coming back here is not easy the racism that i played here when i played here the difficulty of going through different places where we traveled fortunately, i had a manager and i had players on the team that helped me get through it, but i wouldn't wish it on anybody. people said to me today, i spoken a zed. you think you're a better person? you think you you one when you played here and conquered, i said, you know i would never want it to do it. i want to do it again. i walked into restaurants and they good point at me and said, danny, here i would go to a hotel and

they say that can't stay here at the same time, had it not been for my white friends? had it not been for a white manager? and rudy fingers and duncan and lee meyers. i would've never made it. i was two physically bind ireland i was ready to physically fight some auto got killed here because i had a beat someone you just saw me in an oak tree somewhere so. why did that resonate this week on social media? a lot of people called it a history lesson. they said it was chilling. they said it was emotional. maybe the easiest explanation is that it was the truth a reminder that this history is recent history and it's not just black history, it is american history 60 league players attended that tribute. the mlb says it was the largest official gathering of the league's players in nearly 30 years. so to reggie jackson and in those men i see you thanks for joining me