thrusters. >> the two may be related we don't really know the problem is they develop these helium leaks as they got up into the air. they're one of the thrusters went out, some others were then shut down. now, only one out of 24, i believe is believed to be not working. all of this is tied to the ability to undock and safely deorbit, to get back to ground here safely. so if this were considered a test drive there halfway through the test drive and now they're kind of parked several issues here that are really important. remember, when a spacecraft like this it's docked to the iss, that spacecraft is serving a very important role. it is innocence, an emergency exit for anybody who's on the spacecraft from the iss. in this case, the emergency exit itself is not going anywhere. it's simply docked there. now, they say it's out an abundance of caution. the two astronauts who went up on it. so the spacecraft handled wonderfully.

they feel very good about this but there are very serious questions to wonder about this as they try to figure out they work around these spacewalks. they have going on up there. they can stay up there for quite some time. it's not like the clock is running out really fast. >> but you know, there have to be serious questions here about is there any inherent danger and bringing it back do they have the autonomous ability to bring the spacecraft back? >> this one back without these people on board. >> and then somehow change the entire schedule to get those two back later on. >> this is more serious than it appears older to be fair. nasa and boeing are trying to say right now, they're working through it. they hope it's not serious at all all right. >> tom. form. and thank you so much. a new our cnn news central starts right now. >> three days to go until earliest presidential debate in

general election in history. it is right here on cnn every minute between now and then counts a pro-palestinian protests turned violent outside of los angeles synagogue and prime minister, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the intense phase of fighting in gaza is both about to end gate is out today. i'm john berman with sarah sign. you're in this is cnn news central let's crunch time, perhaps underway just three crucial days to go uil first presidential debate right here on cnn, president biden is putting abortion in the spotlight as the administration marks two years since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade and directly claims donald trump for that the pain that i was feeling was excruciating. >> i was turned away from two emergency rooms. that was a

direct result of donald trump overturning roe v. wade. he's now a convicted felon. trump thinks he should not be held accountable for his own criminal actions. but he will let women and doctors be punished the biden campaign launching that new ad while the president remains a clustered at camp david, he's been working with a team of aids and exports to prepare for thursday's debate, with donald trump. >> trump meanwhile, has been having informal policy discussions with close lawmakers and allies and but spent part of the weekend in philadelphia where he mocked biden for his debate preparations. cnn's alayna treene joining us now, alaimo, we're seeing these new ads from the biden camp on abortion that is definitely a hot button issue at the debate. what are you hearing from? donald trump on this issue will luck donald trump does not really want to be talking about abortion, especially as we head into the debate. >> however of course this is what they are preparing on. this is one of the lines i'm told from my conversations with donald trump's advisers, one of the themes that he's been

sharpening his rhetoric on and workshopping with vice presidential contenders senators policy experts behind the scenes because they think that this is one of the most vulnerable issues republicans face. and mainly donald trump faces as they look forward to november. and we did hear donald trump talk about this over the weekend he was attending a christian conservative conference called the faith than freedom coalition, road to majority conference and he did address and what we heard donald trump do on saturday was toe the line on abortion that we've seen him do in the past, which is to take credit for stacking the supreme court with conservative justices that led to the overturning of roe versus wade, but also trying to play a little more politically safe on the issue. now, i do just want to turn your attention to more of what we're seeing donald trump's team do in the lead up to thursday behind the scenes, they have been i'm told donald trump has participated in more than a dozen what his team has dubbing policy discussions to prepare him. he is not going to

be doing mock debate, something that at the biden campaign, i believe is planning on doing but they are workshopping answers, focusing on things that they think he again, could be more vulnerable on. and it's not just abortion, it's also his handling of the january 6 attack on the capitol, as well as discussions over american democracy more broadly. now another thing there also trying to do is manage expectations and we heard donald trump get at that during his rally in philadelphia on saturday. take a listen to what he said. >> how should i handle him should i be tough and nasty or should i be should i be? she said, should i be tougher, nasty and just say you're the worst president in history or should i be nice and calm? and let him speak now sarah, i can tell you that that line is actually something that is reflective of what's happening behind the scenes with donald

trump and his team. >> they have been discussing his rhetoric as well, not just policy in these debates russian is trying to determine whether or not donald trump should be aggressive, which i'm told his advisors are telling him not to be they want them to focus on the issues. and so we're seeing that play out publicly in some of these speeches. and i think it will continue to be a theme this week as they look forward to thursday. >> sorry, i should note, when you saying should i let him talk that the mics will be muted if you were not the person then the question is being asked two, so it'll be interesting to see how he handles that. all right, alayna treene. thank you so much for your reporting. john wright with this. now, the governor of michigan, democratic russian governor. thank you so much for being with us this morning it is the second anniversary of the supreme court decision to overturn roe versus wade in your mind, how responsible is donald trump for that decision? >> absolutely responsible. he appointed three justices to the supreme court and went into congress. and lied. they said that roe was the settled law of the land they be trade that oath of what that they took when they went into office and

they would we would not be in this moment. but for donald trump, he's the one that put these justices on the court, regardless of the 18 different positions, he's taken over the years. he is absolutely front and center as on the road to an all-out national abortion ban. and that's why we've got to get joe biden elected this fall he says he's not on the road to an all-out abortion ban federal because he said he wants to leave it up to the states, right? he said he would not support a federal ban. i'm not arguing with him being responsible for the overturning of roe versus wade, but just on that specific position, he wants it left up to the states. he says, i want to ask you either an interview with the new york times where you said in 2028, you hope that americans can choose a gen. xor to be president in 2028. once you, they have to wait till that while because look at the cannes under constraint and how john, i mean, i think that we've got a wonderful president who's delivered and i am wholeheartedly a part of the biden campaign and

supporting him. i can tell you, people are back to work manufacturing his growing. we have seen so much great investment from fixing the dam roads to making sure every household has access to internet. so this president has delivered, i am supporting him and working my tail off to make sure that he gets a second term and can continue this work. but i think as we look to the future, i'd new generation of leaders is an exciting prospect. there's a deep bench on the demo the cardiac side of the aisle, and i think that there are a lot of great people who could do it. and so that was one comment i made it an hour-long interview, but that's really what it's all about. >> well, look, i read the whole thing. >> it was at least everything that was published and it was, it was fascinating to read that, but you talked about the future. >> i mean, why should the future be now, we aren't hurricanes concerned about the future. now absolutely. >> and we've got a very stark choice in front of us. we've got two men who are both in there, right about 80-years-old. one is the guy wakes up every morning. it says, what can i do to make people's lives better? the

other is a guy who what just wants to settle that. is running on grievance. i think it's a very stark choices we think about everything from the right to make our own decisions about our bodies to american manufacturing to an economy that is growing and more people who are in work getting paid well, there's still more good work to do and that's why i'm thrilled to be supporting president biden. but i think that that's the choice that we have today is the choice between two baby boomers. one is incredibly good person with integrity, works as tail off for us and another wants is simply settle scores. we can't afford that. >> so we're gonna have a saman coming up today. harriet harry, it's gonna talk about these double-haters, people who don't like either candidate, whatever age they are as 60% i was peaking at harry's data are kind of double-haters, right now why do you think that they look at these candidates and don't see someone they can connect with. >> i think both candidates are very well known, right? and so i know that there's never a

candidate who perfectly represents all the things i care about. i can tell you that, but i want to extend an invitation to people who voted for nikki haley who understand the real present danger that donald trump could be in a second four-year term where he's not tethered to the prospect of needing to get reelected come on over. i know that joe biden might not be everything you want in a candidate. his agenda may not reflect your personal values on every front, but there's no such thing as a perfect candidate. this is an existential moment our fundamental freedoms about our economy, about where we are headed as an asian, about climate change and common sense gun safety. and we can find common ground around some of those issues and right now we're hoping to earn the votes of these former nikki haley voters and uncommitted voters alike. >> so michigan, so important in the general election here and in a way it's a microcosm of what the whole election will be in some of the challenges facing president biden when you

have a lot of younger voters university all, all the great universities, there are a lot of younger voters. a large african american vote. you've got jewish vote, arab american vote. these are all groups in some cases that president biden is underperforming where he has in the past and the democratic coalition. so he takes that debate stage in three days right here on cnn. what does he need to say to those voters in michigan who might be wavering i think we need to remind people why he was elected in the first place to bring some sanity back into washington, dc to make sure that we've got quality people in cabinet positions who are staking out a future for our country, whether it's gina raimondo and commerce or pete buttigieg and transportation or tom vilsack and agriculture. >> he has surrounded himself by incredibly competent, smart people who are leading our country forward. i think that the chaos of the trump years we'll come back into focus for people. it seems like a long time ago, but four years ago a lot has happened and i think that this opportunity is one to

remind people. we've got a president who is really seeing the resurgence of american manufacturing on onshore in supply chains giving people opportunity in this economy to make a good living at the end of the day, i think that's the most important thing that people will be reminded of in this, in this matchup bad. as we think about abortion rights, where we've made so much great progress in a state like michigan all of that is at risk with the prospect of a second trump term, and that's why that's why i think this is such a high-stakes moment. >> governor gretchen whitmer, as i said, i enjoyed reading that interview with the new york times. i look forward to reading the book that you have coming out as well. and again thank you for joining us this morning. appreciate a true gretsch right there. but the book up. thank you so much, governor thank you. all right. new course. you can join cnn as president biden and former president trump meet for this unprecedented historic debate. the earliest general election debate there has ever been jake

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protesters away from the temple these were fights that broke out in the street and then went off into side streets as well. police officers going and trying to contain people, trying to keep them apart from each other. and you see those protesters. >> there there's one part of it where you even saw in the video just two people that appear to be wrestling and people all around them kicking them. this was extremely violent. there were people that were being punched and shoved to the ground. you saw in many of these videos, people who had blood on their faces, their mounts, there was in one of the videos where you saw a pro-palestinian protester being thrown, an egg there were people that were chased and punch to the ground. they were by standards, who were trying to keep people apart to trying to pull them apart and keep them apart and not succeeding so again, just really violent

and horrific images out of los angeles. we know that at least one person was detained for having a spike it's unclear if any others were arrested and it's unclear exactly what the injuries where we do not know what escalated things. but as you see their things, absolutely only escalated. and the mayor of los angeles, karen bass saying that she now wants additional police patrols in the pico robertson neighborhood, but also in houses of worship around los angeles. there been a lot of reaction from leaders who say this is horrific. and of course are hoping that this does not happen again, sarah. >> all right. camila bernal and you'll be watching all of that thank you so much for your reporting. coming up. it's been two years since supreme court overturned roe versus wade, ending the constitutional right to an abortion to hide court now set to rule on another abortion issue when it comes to what doctors must do in a medical emergency i'm

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supreme court did in 1973 was actually something that it did not have the authority to do medical procedures like abortion or actually regulated at the state level, not the federal level so what we're dealing with right now with abortion is that the states are going to weigh in they're going to decide how abortions are going to be restricted in how they're going to be managed throughout the various states. california is going to have their law, florida is going to have their law. tennessee, texas, new york. and then as things evolve in our country will figure out the place where abortion is going to and in the united states and some states are banning abortion altogether, it sounds like you agree with gretchen whitmer that donald trump is responsible for overturning roe versus wade. he brought up the supreme court justice is donald trump even said after 50 years with failure, with nobody even clumping coles, i was able to kill roe versus his way. you agree with that well, those are his words, so i'm trying to figure out what the purpose of the question is. i just want to know if you think donald trump is responsible for fundamentally changing access

to abortion in this country? >> what he's responsible for is for people being able to weigh in on abortion, abortion is very personal topic is the most divisive topic in our politics. we all know this and for 50 years the supreme court took away the ability for the american people to weigh in on one of the most personal topics that does deal with politics in the united states. i think the one thing that's clear from the dobbs decision is that abortion is not a federal issue is an issue that belongs in the states. like i said, states are the ones that regulate medical procedures, not the federal government. and so this is going to be a situation where every state is going to make their decision and citizens in those states have an ability to discuss abortion, figure out abortion regulation with their legislatures and with their governors. >> so as i said, we've reported that donald trump is talking to some of the potential running mate's and you're one of them about policy issues? >> i'm curious if you have discussed the chilean model of social security with the former

president no, we have not discussed that have you talked about entitlement reform at all with him? no we've not discussed entitlement reform. president trump has been clear. he wants to make sure that social security and medicare are protected for all of the americans who had been promised something by the federal government in the past, you have supported the chilean model for social security. is this something you do hope he considers? >> well, i'll also say i'm also 45-years-old, so i've grown up in america, not even thinking social security would be there for me and if you ask a lot of people in my age group, they are skeptical about social security being around. nothing like that. what do you want him to show anything can just my statewide privatizing state parity. >> okay. >> i think that if you talk to him younger americans, they will tell you they are highly skeptical of whether social security and medicare will be around for for them. if you listen to the congressional budget office, there's saying right now that both of those programs will be insolvent in

nine years congress is going to have to make some modest adjustments over the next several years that actually still protects seniors protects the benefits that they have been promised and that they will continue to get those benefits but for younger american like myself, for my sons who were not my, my oldest son is 20-years-old for him, there are going to have to be some changes to those programs. very modest changes. so that way those programs can still be afforded going forward, you have to understand that right now. he number two, spending item in the federal government is interest on the debt. it is number two in our government, it's more than we're paying for the department of defense. so we have some serious questions as a nation that we're going to have to confront and playing. politics is not going to answer those questions. >> there was a report just out today than you were science which cited a new analysis which showed that over donald trump's term in office, the 10-year projection on debt grew by eight $8.4 trillion under president biden is 4.3. sorry,

trillion it's really dollars. the federal debt grew by $8.4 trillion. attend your protection biden $4.3 trillion. that's the projection you take out covid. it's still two-to-one trump over biden. so you just talked about the debt situation. there is what it is partisan from said to you about how he intends to cut the debt well, first of all, let's go back to what you just said. >> you said if you remove covid, that the tenure debt window between donald trump and joe biden is still two to one. i will tell you right now that math is simply not add up most of the debt incurred by donald trump does come from covid-19 because the entire country's economy was shut down. and at that point, yes, congress and the white house had a responsibility to step into that gap to make sure that americans did just have their in their lives completely destroyed by covid-19. it was a very tough period for our country that being said, the trump agenda when it comes to economics and when it comes to federal spending, is one where we will have larger growth

projections than we have today under joe biden because his growth is anemic. number two, we will be cutting inflation. joe biden doesn't even want to talk about inflation except to say that right now, the year over year growth is 3%. but if you look over his presidency, prices are up 20%. that is devastating for working families. it's devastating for seniors. this is why americans are demanding a change from joe biden to donald j. trump. but number three, if you want to talk about debt projections it is crystal clear. joe biden has no concern about about taxing and spending on the backs of the american people. donald trump will have a plan in order to be able to curtail federal spending to get our debt under control, covid-19 was an anomaly, not just in terms of what a different public health, but also what it did for our debts and foreign deficits. that is something that we should not continue. and i will add, it is joe biden and his administration that once a continue elevated federal spending using the covid-19 spending levels as a model for federal spending going forward.

that's simply not sustained the congressman, i appreciate you being with us just to be clear, the math is the math by this organization that did this report and axios and the new york times today it was a committee i will tell you that organization one is wrong because i'll capitol hill, that organizations all right. >> well, they'll put their math up against yours. you guys can fight it out. but the fact of the matter is the budget debt projections grew more under donald trump according to them. then president biden reps. byron donalds. thanks so much for being with us. i appreciate thank you. a major announcement from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he says, the intense phase of the war against hamas is about to end et me introduce you to

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minister since october 7, about where the war is going in gaza. so he said that the most intense phase is over. but this means that the military can now focus on the northern border with lebanon where we have seen an increase in cross-border attacks over the last few weeks between hezbollah and the israeli military now netanyahu in this interview with channel 14, did also say that this doesn't mean the end of the war in gaza. what it does mean is that the current stage in rafah, where we have seen the most intense fighting over the last month has come to an end. now, he also said something interesting that he supports and is ready to sign up to a partial deal with hamas, saying that that would be a deal to release some of the hostages, saying that after a ceasefire, the war in his mind, would continue you because he wants to continue to try and eliminate the group hamas group

saying he hasn't given up on that idea. now on the face of it, it does appear to be at odds with this ceasefire or deal. the us back to deal. that the biden administration has said israel signed up to. and we have heard from some but the hostage families saying they condemn it. it's it's simply not good enough. it has to be all of the hostages or none ball hancocks. >> thanks so much for being with us this morning, sir. >> all right will the supreme court further limit abortion access this time in emergency rooms? >> a decision from the court may come down this week. today marks two years since the supreme court release the dobbs decision that overturned roe versus wade, ending the constitutional right to an abortion. since then, 14 republican controlled states have passed near total bans on abortions with limited exceptions. in 2023, abortions reach their highest point and more than a decade but now more people are traveling to access care or relying on self-managed abortions at home. cnn's senior

supreme court analyst, joan biskupic is joining me now the supreme court still deciding on that other case that could impact abortion access tell us a bit more about what that means to the public. >> sure, sarah, it's good to see you and it is startling to consider all that has happened in just two years. in addition to those 14 stay sick outright ban abortion. there are several other states that have imposed restrictions and just think of how much that dobbs decision has it's altered the debate over even in vitro fertilization, how much it's altered the dynamics of political campaigns. and we'll probably factor into this year's presidential election. the court itself has said little about dobbs in the past two years but you're right, that with this new case, that's pending right now, that we could get as soon as wednesday when the justices returned to the bench, there's a major test of access to abortion what it does is pitt, an idaho law against federal

legal safeguard, having to do with medical treatment, the idaho law, a defense of life act that was became enforced, right after dobbs prohibits makes it a crime to either perform or assist in an abortion except to prevent the death of the woman. so it's a pretty strict ban on abortion meanwhile, there's a federal law enacted back in 1986, but which the biden administration and after dobbs tried to bring new energy to for reproductive care that emergency law shorthanded with the phrase emtala, which is the emergency medical treatment and labor act of 1986 requires emergency rooms that at hospitals to take medicare funds, which is vast majority of hospitals nationwide to provide

stabilizing treatment to any patient. it was originally passed to prevent patient dumping of needy, needy patients through across the country. but the biden administration says that that law should ensure that a woman who comes there with complications from pregnancy can get a board and abortion to protect her health, not just to be handled in the event of preventing a debt. so there's a real clash between these two provisions and the justices right now are deciding if at all, law should prevent some of these state bands. i do have to add sarah, the supreme court did allow the idaho law to take effect so that's not a very good signal for the biden administration. but who knows, and we will probably learn over the next couple of days. how the supreme court comes down on this next chapter in abortion rights. sara and biden administration, or biden campaign already sending out an ad on abortion this very day. >> thank you so much. joan biskupic will be waiting for

that decision here. >> all right. in case you did not know there is a big presidential debate in just a few days right here on cnn, three days away. here, he says, yes, i'm right about this second source right there. listen, one of the key vote and groups who could be watching this debate or voters who say they don't like either of these guys, the so-called double-haters senior data reporter, harryette and is going to stop doing the mime and start actually talking here yeah. >> double-haters. i mean, how much of the vote to they makeup. >> yeah. so i'll just say they make up 16% of all registered voters. so it's a significant chunk, but i think the real question who are these folks, who are these folks that potentially could be reached on thursday night? and here's the two key things to keep in mind. number one, they are disproportionately non-white. their 44% dislike biden and trump 44% of them are non white versus 35% of voters overall. how about under the age of 45 overall, under the age of 45? voters make up 41% of the electric. but among those who

disliked biden and trump, look at that and they make up the clear majority, 56%. they are groups that lean democratic or at least have historically lean democratic interesting younger in non-white disproportionately to how they have been otherwise 60% of the overall population, how they kinda changed. >> yes. so we mentioned that 16% of registered voters, and this to me is a group that joe biden really wishes that he can break through with on thursday night because why the voters who disliked biden and trump today, who they vote for in 2020, they voted for joe biden by get this 21 points. that's a very wide margin. look at how they lean today though, who they say they'll vote for in 2024, they only leaned for joe biden by four points, which of course makes sense, john, with what we've been seeing among non-white voters and younger voters generally, groups that have traditionally lean democratic but have been trending in this election cycle to be more republican. so these numbers kinda line up with it with being much more pro-biden 2020 verses today, basically

beating a dead even split between joe biden and donald trump. >> so are they gingival on thursday night for president biden, right. >> so are they get a ball on thursday night? so this is to me sort of one of these slides that went, you know, at this time kinda make sense a little bit. but say that they'll follow the june 27 debate between joe biden and donald trump will watch overall, the overall voters look at this 65% of voters overall say that they will watch. but amongst those who say they disliked buying or trump just 37% say they will watch. but here's where it gets really interesting, will follow the news afterwards. that is may be susceptible to the post debate spent just 22% say that will be the main way that they will follow the news afterwards. but among those who disliked biden and trump, look at that the plurality answer 39% say they will follow the news afterwards. so perhaps it might not just be what happens on thursday night, but how the campaigns spin have the media digests it and then feeds get back to the public. that will be very, very important to this key group of voters who disliked biden and trump even this number is big enough to be important. you'll hear this

number absolutely, absolutely right. merryman. nice to see it. thank you very much for that, sarah. all right. thank you, john. thank you, harry. we're getting new details about how president biden is preparing for thursday. cnn prudential presidential debate. biden is getting ready for it two different versions of donald trump that could show up, including what they're saying is we're very disciplined, donald trump with me now, it's todd graham, debate director at southern illinois university, carbondale. i used to work there years and years and years ago. and cape gerardo and near carbondale. todd, i'm cure chris for you. how does one prepare for two different versions of their opponent fine question and welcome back to the region. >> i think that you can prepare for donald trump to be interrupting you. i think you can pay are for donald trump to go a little over, but muted eclipse on certainly did help in the last debate. so i think if you're biden, you just go and prepare with your strengths. i've always told my do 18 that we shouldn't worry about the opponent strengths.

we should always debate to our own strengths. so that's what i would do. i wouldn't worry as much about trump, but i wouldn't go back and know exactly what he usually does either you are the knower of all things debate. you've been doing this for a long time. >> can you discuss what is a pitfall for incumbents in their very first debate? i'm glad you asked that because i've actually talked about that before. the incumbents usually have a poor debate because they haven't been practicing. so you're incumbent president four years ago was trump's. he hadn't been practicing with biden's had been because he had to go through the primaries. so usually, i think there's a little sleeper effect in the first debate. hey for the incumbent president. if you remember, obama had it when he debated against mitt romney, when he came out very soft and almost they thought like he was little sleepy and then mitt romney took care of that debate and had a really goodman. so i think that's important that both biden and trump who have

not debated is the first time we'll have a debate between two debaters who haven't played it in four years. this first time this happened a long time so what we need is both of them to go over their old notes and try to get better because unfortunately, every time i watch them in a new debate after four years, no matter if it's a primary or general election, they usually have a very poor first debate i do want to ask you about the preparation. joe biden's doing mock debates he sort of hunkering down with his close aides, don't trump on the campaign trail. but also, of course, talking to advisors about how to handle the debate is it, is it a mistake not to do a mock debate? >> i do think it is mistake. however, i think that's more of trump's style. and one thing that i do teach people is don't change whatever you're doing if it's been relatively successful. so would i, as a coach have a mock debate? yes, i would by trump had them in. i don't know if we have them in 2016, but i know adam 2020 and people in that debate prep talked about how it wasn't

very useful if you can get a lot done, et cetera, because he didn't want to be criticized. and so that's just one of the things that he's used to. so i think he should practice what he's good at and then not worry about the rest of the prep because the bag preferably new to him and the word is he just doesn't like it. how traditionally done. >> you alluded to this the rules for this historic debate are different. there is for the first time going to be a couple of commercial breaks staff is not allowed to interact with their candidate during that time uniform podiums, you're seeing the less they're the mics. as you mentioned, will be muted throughout the they'd unless it is that candidates turned to answer the question. there are no props or notes and no audience. when was the last time there was not an audience for a debate? and how might that affect each candidate? >> i'm trying to remember if the second debate between biden and trump i remember at the after trump that covid in the middle of the debates four seasons ago, i'm trying to

remember if there was an audience for their final debate. and i'm not sure, but otherwise, there's been an audience for the last couple of decades, as long as i can remember. and i'm really against it today. for presidential base. so i think this is a wonderful turn of events. what happens when you don't have an audience is they're not always getting in the way. sometimes audiences clap that. what's frankly wrong answers. and so all of a sudden candidate thinks they gave a good answer. so without an audience there to give feedback, trump is especially used to feed back and rallies, et cetera. but without the audience there, i think it makes the answers more naked by themselves. you have to listen to their policy because there won't be an audience. their audiences of also interrupted the moderators before and just boot them out of asking particular questions. so without that, i think your moderators are going to be sharper. i think the answers will be clearer in that we'll know if one of them understands the question. so i'm all for it to know audience. >> all right. todd graham. thank you so much for chatting with me this morning. i appreciate it. and of course so

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the talking yesterday. tickets for the game in chicago average more than three-fifths deep per ticket. clark said a franchise record with 13 assists and became the first rookie in the w ever to notch at least 15 points, ten assists, and five three-pointers in a game. but race, she's scored a career-high 25 giants, 16 rebounds, aliyah boston, last second shot. there was no goods so recent, this guy i'm back from 15 down to win 88, 77. that was reese's eighth straight double-doubles. she said, i'm from baltimore. that's just what i do here. she is how much you can do whatever it takes to win and everything so being able to see the energy even if her dad even if that's what that's what i do are this guy if you're a neat one more time and the regular season august 30, but we don't have to wait that long for the summer olympics in paris now, just 32 days away, the us olympic track and field trials in eugene, oregon yesterday, we technically only need 9.83

seconds to show you this highlight. know a lyles lasing to a first-place finished in the men's 100 meter final, the world chant pulled away at the midway point is bye-bye. see in paris and checkout mom watching on he cv excitement there. john, but also a little bit of relief. kennedy been there. it came in second tokyo you'll silver medalist red curly and third, they too will represent the us at the olympics and as we'll sha'carri richardson qualifying for a first olympic games after winning the women's 100 meter final on saturday, she one with a time of ten 10.71. that's the fastest time in the world this year. the 24-year-old won at the last trials back in 2021. but remember, wasn't able to represent the u.s. in tokyo after accepting a one month ban for testing positive for thc, she says that she acknowledged that at the time she was using marijuana to help cope with the passing of her mother, which happened a week before that qualifying race. for the tokyo games. john, that she's taken her adversity and she's now using these new opportunities.

she's become a face of the games. >> yeah, overdue but it'll be great to see are out there competing this time in paris, coy wire. thank you very much i can't wait. >> all right. the two astronauts on boeing's starliner spacecraft will spend at least another week in space to starliner's launch for its mission to the international space station was delayed until june 5. the entire trip was only expected to last about a week, but helium leaks and issues with the thrusters have delay the space return. now, nasa says the craft and it's two person crew, won't return to earth until at least july 2, joining me now is former astronaut and retired air force colonel terrie verts. thank you so much for being here, sir. what are your concerns when you hear the couple of things that they're saying are wrong with the craft about this particular delay. >> i wouldn't, call it concerns this is a test flight and you're always going to have issues that happened during test flights. so during my last flight on the space station, when i was commander, we have three different cargo ships blow up at different times and when the russian one blew up, we ended up getting stuck in

space. so i understand what this boeing crew feels like getting stuck on the space hey, station, they should be coming back in a few days. and i think there'll be a lot of lessons for boeing and nasa to learn how long can the astronauts remain there when it comes to things like supplies and other issues? my understanding is the starliner capsule. capsule has a 45 day battery. the problem on the space station is not supplies. there's plenty of food and water and oxygen, so they could stay there probably for as long as they needed to. but the capsule cannot stay there forever. so i don't think there's any immediate concern that they can't come back the earth. they just want to take time to understand what's happening. >> and also the space station is a busy place. >> they have to spacewalks coming up there are other vehicles coming and going. you can't just do an undocking any day. plus they have to wait for the orbit to go over there landing sites. so the problems with the helium leak in the jets are not the only reason why they can't just come back tomorrow and just lastly,

because you've been in this situation before, what is it like? >> what do you do with that extra week in space? >> what i did, i worked in an imax movie called a beautiful planet and i shot a lot of that film. so i was actually relieved to have some time. >> we didn't know how long it was going to be. >> we also relocated a big module, so i am sure that the space station crew was putting the boeing crew to work. they're happy to get some free labor for a few days and perhaps the astros were assertive. it's such a beautiful scene, happy to be there for a little bit longer, although there may be a little bit of nerve cell with the problems that they're saying with this craft kernel terrie verts. thank you so much for explaining your incredible time in space. and we hope everything goes off properly. all right, a new our scene, a new central starts right now brand new reporting on the preps for the cnn debate. >> donald trump's advisers who