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former top aides to both candidates i'm on a, rod you in for dana bash. let's go behind the headlines and inside politics three days from now, the cnn presidential debate, it's the earliest general election debate in modern political history. it could shake up or race that has been basically tied. >> all your logs. >> now the biden campaign has promised a focus on abortion rights in today marks the two-year anniversary of the supreme court overturning roe v wade vice president harris is speaking about abortion right now, university of maryland here she is this morning. >> and msnbc, that would be called an admission everything is at stake. >> and fundamentally, on this issue it's about freedom and every person of whatever gender should understand that if such a fundamental freedom, such as

the right to make decisions about your own body can be taken be aware of what other freedoms may be at stake all right, cnn's mj lee is live outside the white house, so mj tell us more about the president's and his campaign's plans on this day well, manu, for democrats, there's really nothing celebratory about this two-year anniversary of the dobbs decision, but for the biden team, it is certainly a moment that they are trying to seize to deliver a political message. >> and that message, of course, is that abortion rights productive rights have been taken away from people because of donald trump. and also that those very same rights could be eroded even further if donald trump were to return to the white house for a second term. now as you mentioned, vice president kamala harris, who has really taken the lead role for the ministration on this issue has just taken the stage at a campaign event in maryland. focus on this issue, where we expect her to once again warn that this is about

fundamental rights being at risk. and then we also saw a new campaign hey, an ad by the biden team release today that features a louisiana woman who says that she was turned away from two separate emergency rooms in her stayed after she suffered a miscarriage at some 11 weeks pregnancy. and she says in that ad that the pain that she suffered is the direct result of donald trump. take a listen i was right around 11 weeks when i had a miscarriage the pain that i was feeling was excruciating. >> i was turned away from to emergency rooms. that was a direct result of donald trump overturning roe v. wade he's now a convicted felon, trump thinks he should not be held accountable for his own criminal actions, but he will let women and doctors be punished now this is all just part of a campaign wide effort today, we expect a number of the biden campaign surrogates to be fanned out across the country deliver a similar message. >> and while we don't expect to see president biden himself in

public because he is at camp david still with his advisers doing debate prep. >> we do know that a abortion rights certainly isn't an issue that the team is very much preparing for. >> and it is one of those top issues that they expect they can use to draw one of the sharpest contrast that they can between the president and the former president. lotto. all right. mj lee live outside the white house. thanks for that. and let's bring in our great reporters, laura barron-lopez, the pbs newshour, matt vies of the washington post, boston globes, jackie consent, and cnn. steve contorno thanks guys for joining me. nice to see you all. >> i'm. >> laura, you covered the white house took a little bit about the strategy of the biden campaign just today harris, as we noted, that she's speaking right now and the university of maryland, she was introduced by k. cox was of course a woman who fled the state of texas to have an abortion. harris later than flying out to arizona for yet another event on this issue. obviously, this is central well to their message, especially heading into thursday. how does it bind? but is isn't going to be they

believe is actually gonna be decisive come november. this is worked as an issue in the last two election cycles post-dobbs, but general election, presidential election is to have the same effect. >> they think that it will, they think that this is going to be one of the biggest issues come november, and that's why now you're seeing them lean-in so heavily this week and a lot of other weeks, but especially this week, i mean in the country, they have the second gentleman traveling the country, first lady jill jill biden, was in pennsylvania over the weekend talking about exactly this. and so this is something that they say when they talk to voters especially those independent voters, those more moderate voters, it's something that they're still very concerned about because even though donald trump has said he doesn't necessarily support a 15 week ban, he has also said he will allow states to do whatever they see fit fit, and be able to restrict abortion. however, they want to. and so you a lot of voters, when i've been on the trail, talk about what they see other states doing since dobbs, we

have seen really still a significant amount of americans poll say, support. the idea of keeping abortion legal poll, a recent poll had from cbs show that, yes 60% of americans believe abortion should be legal, 40% say no, but then the question also is will this be a major factor in your vote for president economy in this same poles still 82% there as you can see, inflation similarly, right up there, democracy, a pi, abortion, 51% so yes, they support it. but the ones we're drawn, voting or they already voting democratic, are these the ones who the biden team can pick up and flip? i think it's trying to motivate some of those democrats who may otherwise be luke lukewarm about a second biden presidency i think you'll also hear biden as he talks about it. he usually talks about it in a wider frame to try to incorporate the threats that trump poses to not only

abortion rights, but to democracy or the economy. he tries to talk about it a little bit more broadly. that's also a recognition which is why i'm interested in how it comes across on thursday that an ad he one 1-year-old grandfather, who was a lifelong catholic how he talks about abortion, he struggled with this in the past. he often doesn't even say the word so how does he motivate people on this issue given his, his own history with the topic. and you'll see the ad had testimonials. you see joe biden out, you c kamala harris out other people are sort of surrogates and chief surrogates on this issue in a way that biden isn't. i think there's something very interesting about that ad, because that ad is as much about health care as it is about abortion. i mean, this is someone who said she was 11 weeks pregnant and all the sudden she started to miscarry. that's a very different frame than i think you heard democrats take about abortion before dobbs and the other thing that's really interesting when it comes to polling, because even in 2022, going in like weeks right before the election abortion

wasn't pulling anywhere near. it was like in the bottom with some other issues, democrats really didn't want to talk about, especially in swing states and the like. >> but after people voted, we look at the exit polling inflation and abortion are the two issues why people said, when they came out of voting, cast their votes. i think it's gonna be very interesting to see if that's the case this election, because it is, there's a disconnect there. >> and you mentioned the campaigns and how they're speaking or this is how the biden campaign, they put a video today, talked about this issue, and then listen to how trump spoke about abortion on saturday when speaking before christian conservatives decades of progress shatter just because of the last guy got four years in the white house know what will happen to be guessing another floor or maga republicans row is just the beginning. >> they're going to try to ban the right to choose nationwide for coming for ivf and birth control next what produce extremism? send me back to the white house and i'll fight like calvary store, roe v wade, and protect american freedom. thanks to these justices, we have also achieved what the

pro-life movement fought to get for 49 years and we've gotten abortion out of the federal government and back to the states. if the radical democrat extremes get their way, they will have a federal law, four abortion to rip the baby out of the woman. the seventh, eighth, and ninth month, and even execute the baby after birth. this, it's now up to the will of the people in each state. some states will be more conservative, other states will be more liberal steve you wrote about this saturday. >> what was your takeaway from the wind? the former president has been talking about this issue and particularly in front of the voters who on the right and care about this deeply well in privately, he's very aware of what happened in the 2022 minutes in terms and he has been critical of how republicans responded to dobbs and said that they were quote, stupid and how they responded. and you have seen that thread run through how he has contorted himself around this issue in the year since i looked, donald trump has been on every side of the abortion issue during his time in the public eye. i think we counted 15 times these changed his view

on abortion over the years. >> he has been equally tough to pin down since the dobbs disease. >> this isn't even after he came out and said that distribution issue left to the states, he then criticized arizona and florida for how they have handled abortion when you saw yesterday or excuse me, saturday, where he touted his role in getting these justices that he said had courage in overturning roe v. wade. but he also told the crowd, quote, you have to get elected so clearly, trying to have his cake and eat it saying that the applying those justices for overturning roe v wade, then saying it should be left to the states, but that not owning any of those specific state laws, that's always going to be his wife, the republican support for having overturn roe v. wade. he doesn't want any of the political fallout. yeah. well, good luck with that. speaking of the for the current president and what he's been doing this week. he is at camp david is we're not gonna your experts actually see joe biden and dove thursday, just the amount of advisers that are

there with them right now looking on your screen, there are at least 16 by r reporting and our account are people who are there with a match and you cover the white house. what are you hearing about joe biden's preparation and has plans heading into thursday. >> i mean it's interesting in part because it's such a contrast with donald trump. it's methodical, it's mock debates. it's sort of batting around different policy ideas and sort of workshopping different lines that he may deliver and as you point out, there's a wide number of advisors. there's a couple on that screen that are the most crucial that are have his ear at the last minute, who mcdonald win, we'll be one of those ron klain has been evolved heavily in his debate preparation throughout his career, really those guys really will be speaking to them closely. anita dunn is sort of a messaging guru at the white house. so she's going to be heavily involved as well. what are you hearing laura real quickly. i mean, pretty much the same ron klain is leaving the debate preparation and that

ultimately, yes. president biden is taking this very seriously and it is a big in contrast compared to trump because we know about president biden, he likes to fine tune things even to the last minute as well. and so he's gonna be sharpening those attack leinz, i mean, i think you're going to see him try to hammer trump really hard on abortion, also on immigration something that he president biden himself has been trying to balance heading into november, we'll see the voids, the curse of the incumbent president who tends to struggle in the first debate we will check more, talk more about that later. first, be more disciplined, prepare for multiple scenarios coming up more and how the candidates are making their final preps before the big debate. >> the most anticipated moment of this election, and the stakes couldn't be higher the president and the former president, one state two very different visions for america's future. they're cnn presidential debate thursday night at nine live on cnn and streaming on max with the price of just about everything inflating these days, you may

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sleeping now because they want to get them good and strong. >> so a little before debate time, he gets a shot the and that's they wanted to strengthen them up all right. cnn's kristen holmes isn't west palm beach, florida, so kristin, which isn't going to be is it going to be tough and nasty trump are nice and calm trump well, not always anyone tells you that what they think it's going to be there likely lying to you because the only person who actually knows that they're going to behave on that stage is donald trump. >> now when it comes to letting biden speak, i will say the debate rules will mute donald trump's mike, so it's not going to be a he traditional kind of debate that you've seen donald trump do, where he continually tries to interrupt the person that he's sharing the stage with. but as you mentioned, donald trump's team says that they avoid even using the word of preparation when it comes to donald trump. and this debate instead, they say they are hosting policies sessions. they've had more than a dozen where they've gone over issues like immigration, like abortion

particularly democracy, how to handle what he has said in the past about that riot insurrection on january 6. these are all things that donald trump is taken to account as team also says that his various appearances in rallies taking questions and interviews, as well as from the crowd and other events. that's all part of this quote, unquote, debate prep. but whether or not donald trump is going to stay on message, which most of his the advisers, allies, and anyone who is rooting for donald trump really hopes that he will do, again, will remain to be seen. you heard him trying to lay out platforms this weekend, add and events last week, but then also going off script, take a listen but i said dana dana i have an idea for you to make a lot of money. you're gonna go and start a new migrant fight league. migrants only migrants and then at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion. and i hate to tell you, dan, i think that migrant might win.

that's how tough they are. >> now obviously, immigration is something they've talked about in these policies sessions, but i would venture to say that that kind of language and rhetoric is not something that they went over for they're talking about answers when it came to migrants, donald trump, again, is going to say whatever he wants to say once they come on that stage, but i will tell you, you mentioned this talking about tempering expectations. we have heard from a number of surrogates who have really tried to amp up this rhetoric, tempering expensive tensions we heard from doug burgum on our air over the weekend saying that donald trump, that biden was a formidable opponent. we also heard just now from a j.d. vance on a podcast saying the bar was set too low for biden. so you can hear what the messaging is coming out of trump's orbit right now, manu? >> yeah. all right. kristen holmes, the west palm beach florida tracking all things trump, thanks for that. and it's trump prepares to the debates. he's not shying away from his grievance fueled rhetoric. here he is on saturday before a group of christian conservatives the wounds, all of them body. if i

took the share of you'd see a beautiful, beautiful person. >> but you'd see wounds all over all over me. >> i've taken a lot of wounds. i can tell you more than i suspect any president ever he told them he's been treated worse than abraham lincoln, who of course, was shot in the head, are great reporters are back, okay. >> so what do we this is obviously different than a rally because there's a live audience area and to defeat of the audience, he goes off script a rambles and the leg. this time, hizon be constrained by the time limits and the fact that there'll be a muted mike. and they'll not be a live audience. so you're talking to the trump campaign. what are you hearing about how he plans to approach this? >> well, it was interesting when he asked the audience at that philadelphia events if he should be naseer, nice. >> you could hear one person scream out in the crowd, beat presidential, and there are a lot of people in his, one person, one a lot of people love the redmi, but, but it's clear that there are people around donald trump who is hoping that this stage brings

some gravitas in some remembrance that this is the highest office in the country that he's running for. at the same time at that speech, he also went on a long explanation mission for why he causes so much in his speeches these days, even though franklin graham doesn't want him to. so these tip, but the tempering of expectations that we have been seeing from his campaign rally has been quite dizzying and it doesn't necessarily project confidence going into this debate that he has the upper hand over biden in some ways, trump has a low bar to clear two because if he acts presidential or avoid some of the things that he says that could go over well with a lot of voters who have not been paying attention, have not focused on everything that trump has said over the last four years. i mean, frankly for god, all the controversies, low information voters. so in some ways he has a low bar to clear, but he could trip up by getting back into some of his petty grievances. this is gonna be one of those the best laid plans kinds of debates. >> i mean, we'll see both of the campaigns are trying to prepare their candidate to be the best they can be. and you're right, both have fairly low bars in part because when

biden side because they've meant the how many months talking about it, how senile and how frail he was and how he's not gonna be able to do this but when it comes to trump, yes, if he gets up there and it doesn't take the bait biden will tried to examine both of these candidates are prone to taking the bait and two, going off the rails if they're if they're triggered. and so i mean, we'll see also we have seen is actually what he says on the policy, right? which is that i'm sure jake and dana are going to try to pinpoint him more on abortion. how exactly does he handle those questions? how exactly does trump answer questions about his rhetoric about migrants, including what you just played it saying that he proposed a migrant fighting and the mics being cut off could very well benefit trump just as much as they benefit biden because of the fact that in the 2020 debates, trump was seen in focus groups afterwards that i said i non, they called him a believe they called him rude. they thought he was unprofessional and cutting off

the mics potentially makes it so he doesn't appear or come off that way, but don't you criminal cases are going to be more of fodder for making trump angry, right? because we know how angry he was for this conviction. i'd be shocked if that is not a question in this debate that seems to be not saying you're absolutely right, there will be abortion questions. there for the discussions about that and potentially about that migrant fighting league. but it seems the criminal cases or something he takes very personally. yes. and could be potentially tough for him to answer and as we talked about trump odd message versus not on message, advisers want him to say things like he did on saturday in philadelphia when he was talking about the economy and about joe biden less than four years ago, our border were secure inflation was nowhere to be seen. >> the world was at peace. they're respected your country in america was strong. like

never before. >> now under crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of our country the world is inflamed our borders over run inflation is raging, crime is out of control europe is in chaos. >> the middle east is exploding around, is emboldened china is on the march i mean, that is the trump that this virus was. >> how does biden's team respond to that? >> i mean it's interesting. >> trumpet biden do not share many characteristics between one and one another, but one that they do is going off script from what their advisors want. >> and i think that's so much of what this debate is going to be about trump's advisers want him to speak like he was just speaking, trying to prosecute the case against joe biden and joe biden's advisers are going in with the certain things that they want him to say. but both men frequently veer off script and advisers have to clean up after both of them often spin

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an individual becomes an adult. but opponents argue that in addition to violating the civil rights of trans youth the laws are conflicts with parents rights to make decisions about their child's medical care and the biden administration, along with families of transgender minors, challenge the tennessee law and a similar law in kentucky, but the supreme court's specifically agreed to hear the challenge out of tennessee and monitor the case, will be heard in the fall. >> another significant case, but the supreme court and big decisions as weak as well. all alright, paula reid, thanks for that and we're just three crucial days to go until the first presidential debate right here on cnn will ask over what as communications directors for donald trump and joe biden for their advice? to their former bosses debate in america as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage unrivaled access, and exclusive pre and post of beat analysis follows cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america, thursday at 7:00 p.m.

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took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. >> i went to a number of women's groups and said, can you help us find folks and they brought us whole binders full of women and some missteps don't even require candidate to say something wrong during the first presidential town hall, george h w bush got caught checking his watch is a voter asked him a question, he would go on you asked him a question then of course, you'd go on to lose to bill clinton a month later so to help us talk through all this are and how can make it's what prepare for these moments, tried to steal that are moments on the debate night, we have seen in political commentator and former biden, why does communications director came benningfield and former trump white house communications director might dub game. >> thank you both for coming in. >> how much should you guys have obviously dealt with various aspects of post debates? >> hello spin and all the rest and how much of the debate is when you'd prepare for it as a candidate is about creating

those positive viral moments or just simply just avoiding harmful ones or i guess both especially in this time where memes and social media and these quick ten second videos can drive the perception after the debate. >> yeah, well yes, a lot of debate prep is about driving toward the things that you hope you're gonna make the overarching narrative coming out of the debate focused on, right? >> but there's also a risk of overpreparing, i think for a lot of cantina, ronald reagan famously had that moment. >> i'm bringing was also an actor and a terrific performer. and so sometimes over cranking on trying to create are fabricated in a moment that feels real can be a mistake, can be a trap. really the goal of prep is for your candidate 20 on the three or four arguments that they really want to drive throughout the night. and then you work through different situations. how do you pivot back? how do you really go in with a knife when necessary? but it's more about prep, is more about internalizing those arguments, being ready to make them. and then also working through how you engage with the camera. i

mean, i think that's one thing that's going to be interesting and unique about this debate this week. >> no audience essentially solely playing to the cameras, solely playing to the tv audience at home. >> that's something that biden historically he has been good at. if you go back and look at the 2020 debates, he had a lot of moments where he really went straight to camera and talked about how what he what he was proposing to do is going to impact you at home. so a lot of prep is is working through how to work the camera. and i would expect you'll see some of that on display this week two, how do you see it? >> no, i couldn't agree with you more. i think the worst thing that can happen is overpreparing for these debates because of that your wooden, you're cold, you're afraid of making mistakes. so these viral moments will be seeing many more of these. i was going to check my watch a five-minute. i didn't i didn't know. i didn't know your want to show that yeah, exactly you really can get kinda frozen in place. >> so the key is to stay loose, to be ready to have your three 3234 things that you want to

convey and then take advantage when you can. >> so over the weekend, trump is it. was talking about gdb nasty at the debate, should he be not nasty the debate, there's a little look of what his past debate performance, at least one of them look like 1,800 nuclear warheads. and she's playing chicken look what might, from everything i see has no respect for this person. >> well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president and no props today, no, it's pretty clear my social security payroll oh contribution will go up as well, donalds, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. but what we want to do is to replenish the search and font you work for trump. >> do you expect them to come out like that? well, i do expect him to come out with like that. the problem for him is going to be the microphone's being off and the fact that there's a benefit. well, i actually do think it's gonna be a benefit. and as i

was thinking about this, this may be more problematic for the biden campaign then really four for donald trump. a lot has been made of the debate and 2020 when it was seen that president trump was interrupting candidate joe biden at the time way too much. and it became this kind of that was the story of the whole debate with the microphones off, he's not going to have that ability and without the audience, you're not going to get that kind of background noise. i think it's i don't know that we've had a debate with the microphones off of the opponent for the entire debate. i know it's happened in parts of debates. so this is going to be a very interesting, i think first look for this june debate before we get into the real campaign. and what trump comes out very disciplined that interrupting and measured how biden respond to that. well, look, i think there's reason to expect that we're going to see that. i mean, both again, because the mics are gonna be muted in the format is just not going to lend itself as much

two the overbearing shouting, interrupting, but also like the fact that you see donald trump asking his crowds should i be nice, should i be nasty? and we've seen other reporting that suggest he's while he won't really fully admit it, he is taking prep little more seriously this round and he knows this is a big moment for his campaign. and i think there's every reason to expect that he'll be the most disciplined version of himself. i think what the biden campaign has to do and then what joe biden has to do, obviously is go at the substantive weaknesses donald trump has, regardless of stylistically, how he's presenting himself. donald trump can present himself as the suave as debater of all time. he still has to defend january 6. and the things he said about january 6 abortion, the fall of roe, the fact that he's bragged about the pudding justices on the supreme court who brought rode down. i mean, these are substantively issues where he is out of touch with most of america, but certainly with the moderate swing voters we're going to decide this election but joe biden's got to drive the two, the substance there regardless how trump is

presenting himself stylus. >> i want you to take me. you guys are operatives skilled and veteran operatives take me inside the war room and a night like this, there was of course that you mentioned the there was the side the infamous sigh of al gore in 2000, he let out a big sigh and it became a several sides and then became a debate afterwards. this is our friend and colleague nemo ganesha, wrote about the perception shift in the aftermath of that, is that the post debate spin effect. we turned it debate night. victory into a loss for gore in the days that followed calmness mocked him and pundits had a talking point. so as a former communications director, what. do you looking for that night to change the perception and the bright aftermath? >> well, i think it comes after the debates. so this is i'm sorry, i'm saying this on cnn because you're hosting the debate. but sometimes i don't even watch these debates. i read the spin afterwards because the spin is almost more important than what's said on stage especially if there

isn't a viral moment, if there's not that one thing that somebody can point to where that one interaction between the candidates winning the post debate in my mind is almost as important if not more important than actually winning on stage that night. you great. >> well, i will say as somebody who's been involved in a lot of these debate war rooms, they are moving in real time. they're moving very quickly. you have teams of people who are watching, waiting for the moment where trump for the biden war room stumbles in a way that illustrates the point you want. and then you just seize on it. i would really explain to your viewers there you can't imagine how many people move very quickly to write a talking points, get a statement out, start calling reporters, put together talking points for the people who are going to be in the spin room following the bait, the debate to mike's point, helping shift and drive the narrative. there is an operation that that makes that suggest that now it's all the memes, all the video, all the everything else that comes out not just trying to spend reporters absolutely.

>> digital is very well integrated into, into the word blood are inboxes i want you all to watch the debate this one, so historic because it's so early and so we'll see how this one works in it. >> we'll see the impact. it will have. thank you. both recovering a. reminder. we're just three days away from that first presidential debate of the year, of course, hosted by cnn, don't mess president joe biden, former president donald trump, may go ahead. wednesday or thursday at 9:00 p.m. we'll be right back assignments are going on. and the tornado here. >> i'm thinking i'm going to die. and i thought that was it. >> finally earth with liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn you've built something people want now they want more of it this to credit helps you get the funds you need make sure your inventory is buttoned up this to credit funding. what's next see idp disrupts

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los angeles intimidating jewish congress congregants is dangerous unconscionable anti-semitic, and unamerican. he was talking about this scene yesterday proposed to be an act pro-palestinian activists were chanting anti-israel slogan in front of a synagogue in predominantly jewish neighborhood that led to violent altercations. there was at least one arrest now, anti-semitic incidents in the the us have skyrocketed since the october 7 attack in israel. more than doubling in 2023, according to the adl, cnn's camila bernal is following the latest from la. so camila, what can you tell us? >> hey, manu, another violent clash here in los angeles between pro-palestinian protesters and counter counter-protesters. and this time, as you mentioned, outside of a synagogue, i want to show you some of the video of police in riot gear pushing these protesters out of this area. they were trying to get everyone out of the temple. and you could see just how violent some of that god as those

police officers tried to move those protesters, there's additional video that i want to show you because it also gets a screamingly violent at some point when in a video you see two people who appeared to be wrestling. there's obviously shoving and screaming and violence all around. and you see them there on the ground and people around them kicking them there's also videos of people who have bloody faces and mouse and it's just incredible when you look at these images just and just what happened there outside of the temple. there's also another video that was circling on social media where you see a woman who is being thrown an egg. this was a pro-palestinian protester. you know, there's people who were chased, people who were punched to worth rome to the ground. and so again, just very violent let's scenes of people who were yelling and shoving. this was both verbal and physical, as you're seeing there on the video, we know at least one person was arrested we're having a spiked flag and

we were told that others were injured and went to the hospital. it's unclear exactly what the severity of those injuries were, but i spoke to the volunteer security director at the synagogue he told me that people were taken to the hospital. and who said that people came looking for a fight. manu and they got one. so again, just violence that is now being denounced and being essentially called out by liters here in la and really around the world. >> leaders denouncing anti-semitic i can since it's have been on the rise since october 7 camila bernal. >> thank you for that report from los angeles. and thanks for joining inside politics, cnn, news central starts after a quick break the most election, and the stakes couldn't be higher. the ake tap the cnn presidential debate thursday night at nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> we decided to put in an end

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