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pivotal moment between president joe biden and former president donald trump in their rematch for the nation's highest office, each will make his case to the american people would just over four months until election day good evening. i'm dana bash, anchor of cnn's inside politics and co-anchored of state of the union are jake tapper, anchor and cnn's the lead heat and co-anchored state of the union. dana and i will co moderate this evening. our job is to facilitate a debate between the two candidates tonight. before before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home former president trump will be on the left side of the screen president biden will be appearing on the rights of coin tossed determined their positions. each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals an additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderators discretion. >> when it's time for our

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gentlemen. thanks so much for being here. let's begin the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say, is their top concern. the economy president biden inflation has slowed, but prices remain high since you took office, the price of essentials has increased for example, a basket of groceries that cost $100, then, now costs more than $120 and typical home prices have jumped more than 30% what do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under president trump. >> we're going to take a look at what i was left. i became president who went mr. trump loved me we had an economy that was in free fall. the pandemic are so badly handled many people were dying. all he said was, is not that serious, just inject a little bleach in your arm. could be. all right economy collapsed, renewed jobs unemployment rate rose to 15%.

it was terrible and so what we had to do is try to put things back together again. that's exactly what we began to do. and created 15,000 new jobs. we brought out and a position where we have 800,000 no manufacturing jobs but there's more to be done. there's more to be done. working class people are still in trouble i come from scranton, pennsylvania. i come up household where the kitchen table if things weren't able to be met during the month? there's a problem. price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing, the price of a whole range of things. that's why i'm working so hard to make sure i deal with those problems and we're going to make sure that we have reduced the price of housing. we're going to make sure we build to 2 million new units. we're going to make sure we kept rents. so corporate greed can't take over the combination. when i was left with a corporate greed with the reason why were those problem right now. in addition to that, we're in a situation where if you take a look at all that was done at his administration he didn't do much at all by the time he left are things that are in chaos literally chaos

and so we put things back together. we create an i said those jobs we make sure we had a situation where we now we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people to $15 for insulin shot as opposed to $400. now, senior has to be more than $200 for any jug all the drugs they conclude beginning next year. and the situation is, we're going to make that available to everybody. all americans so we're working to bring down the price of around the kitchen table. and that's what we're going to get done thank you, president trump. we had the greatest economy in the history of our country we have never done so well every everybody was amazed by it. >> other countries we're copying us, we got hit with covid. and when we did, we spent the money necessary so we wouldn't end up in a great depression. the likes of which we had in 1929. by the time we finished. so we did a great job. we get a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things.

everything was rocking good but the thing we never got the credit for and we should have is getting us out of that covid mess he created mandates that was a disaster for our country. but other than that we had, we had given them back a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-covid. and nobody thought that was even possible. the only jobs he created to refer illegal immigrants and bounced back jobs have bounced back from the covid. he has not done a good job. he's done a poor job in inflation's killing our country. it is absolutely killing us thank you, president biden homework the greatest economy in the world. >> he's the only one who thinks that i think i don't want anybody else. he thinks he's agree here, the greatest economy in the world and the fact that the matter is that what are you proud ourselves in a situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy. he had the largest tax cut in american history, $2 he raised a deficit larger than any president has in any one term. he's the only

president other than herbert hoover who was that lost more jobs then he had really began since herbert hoover the idea that he did something that was significant and the military when he was president, there are still killing people in afghanistan he didn't do anything about that. when he was president, we are still find ourselves in a position where, you had a notion that we were this safe country. the truth is, i'm the only president the century, but it doesn't have any this, this decade that any troops dying anywhere in the world, like he did president trump, i want to follow up if i can, you want to respond to him? >> well, i'm going to ask you a follow-up. you can do whatever you want with the minute that we gave you. i want to follow up. you want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the u.s how will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher? now going to drive them higher, it's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years like china and many others in all fairness to janet, it's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously, and give

us a lot of power for other things. but he, he made a sale but the only thing he was right about as i gave you the largest tax cut in history, i also gave you the largest regulation cuts in history. that's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and then they bounce back and he's taking credit for bounced back jobs. you can't do that. he also said he inherited 9% inflation. know, he inherited almost no inflation and it stayed that way for 40 pertain months. and then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing and they don't know what they were doing. it was the worst probably the worst administration in history. there's never been as far as afghans is concerned, i was getting out of afghanistan, but we're getting out with dignity, with strength with power. he got out. it was the most embarrassing de the history of our country's life president trump, over the last eight years under both of your administration's the national debt soared to record highs and according to a new nonpartisan analysis, president trump, your administration approved $8.4 trillion in new debt, while so

far president biden you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt. so former president trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year. you want to extend them and go even further. you say with the u.s facing trillion dollar deficits and record debt, why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they? they do now, because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to covid and even after covid, it was so strong that we're able to get through covid much better than just about any other country. but we speared that tax spirit. now, when we cut the taxes as example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39% plus us beyond that, we took in more revenue with much less tax and companies we're bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country the country was going like never before, and we were ready to start paying down debt. we're ready start using the liquid gold right under our feet the oil and gas right under our feet, we were going

to have something that nobody else has had. we got hit with covid. we did a lot to fix it. i gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with. we gave him something great. remember, more people died under his administration? even though we had largely fixed it more people died under his administration than our administration. and we were right in the middle of it, something which a lot of people don't like to talk about. but he had far more people dying in his administration. he did the mandate, which is a disaster mandating it the vaccine went out. he did a mandate are in the vaccine, which is it's the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine and he did a very poor job, just a very poor job. and i will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country. they don't respect our leadership. they don't respect the united states anymore. we're like a third world. there should between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his

political opponent. all of the things he's done. we've become like a third world nation, and it's a shame the damage he's done to our country. and i'd love to ask him, and we'll why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country president trump, we will get to immigration later in this block. president biden, i want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt. >> he had the largest national debt of any president, four-year period. number one number two, you've got to $2,000,000,000,000 tax cut benefited the very wealthy when i'm going to do is fix the texas, for example, we had 1,000 trillion errors in america. i mean, billionaires in america. and what's happening. there are in a situation where they'd fact pay 8.2% taxes if they just paid 24% 25%, either one of those numbers, they've raised 500 million billion dollars. i should say, in a ten year period, we'd be able to write

wipe out his debt. we'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do childcare, elder care, making sure that we continue to suffer strengthen our health care system making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do with the with the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with look if we finally beat medicare. >> thank you. precedent by biden, president trump was right. he did beat medicaid, beat it to death, and he's destroying medicare because all of these people are coming in. they're putting them on medicare, they're putting them on social security, they're going to destroy roy social security. this man is going to single-handedly destroys social security. these millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on social security. he will wipe out social security. he will wipe out medicare. so he was right in the way he finished that sentence. and it's a

shame. what's happened to our country? in the last four years is not to be believed. foreign countries. i'm friends with a lot of people. they cannot believe what happened to the united states of america were no longer respected. they, they don't like us. we give them everything they want and they they think we're stupid. they think we're very stupid people. what we're doing for other countries, and they do nothing for us. what this man has done is absolutely criminal. >> thank you, president trump, dana. >> this is the first presidential election since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade this morning, the court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue. an idaho despite that states restrictive ban, former president trump you take credit for the decision to overturn roe v. wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states, correct however, the federal government still plays a role in whether or not women

have access to abortion pills. they're used in about two-thirds of all abortions. as president would do, block abortion medication. >> first of all, the supreme court just approve the abortion pill. and i agree with their decision to have done that. and i will not block it. and if you look at this whole question that you're asking a complex but not really complex 51 years ago, you had roe v. wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states. everybody without exception, democrats, republicans, liberals, conservatives, everybody wanted a back religious leaders and what i did is i put three great supreme court justices on the court and they happen to vote in favor of killing roe v. wade, and moving it back to the states. this is something that everybody wanted now ten years ago or so they started talking about how many weeks and how many this getting into other things. but every legal scholar throughout the world, the most respected, wanted it brought

back to the states. i did that. now, the states are working it out. if you look at ohio, it was a decision that was an end result that was a little bit more liberal than you would've thought but kansas, i would say the same thing texas is different, florida is different, but they're all making their own decisions right now and right now, the state's control it. that's the vote of the people. like ronald reagan, i believe in the exceptions, i am a person that believes and frankly, i think it's important to believe in the exceptions. some people you have to follow your heart, some people don't believe in that but i believe in the exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother. i think it's very important. some people don't follow your heart, but you have to get elected also. and because that has to do with other things you've got to get elected the problem they have is their radical because they will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth, after birth, if you look at the former governor of virginia, he was willing to do this. he

said, we'll put the baby aside. i will determine what we do with the baby, meaning will kill the baby what happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue. it's been a great thing. thank you, president biden it's been a terrible thing once you're done the fact is that the vast majority of constitutional scholars supported row when it was decided supported row and i was this idea that they were all against it. it's just ridiculous. and this is the guy who says the state should be able to have it. we're going to state we're in six weeks. you don't even know what you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see the doctor heavier and have him decide on what your circumstances are, whether you need help. the idea that states are able to do this as a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states. but each state have a different rule. look, there's so many young women who have been including a young woman who was murdered and he went to the funeral idea that she was murdered by a y, by an immigrant coming into they talk

about that. but here's the deal. there's a lot of young women to be raped by their mother in-laws by their, by their spouses process the sisters by just it's just ridiculous, and they can do nothing about it. they tried to rest of my across state lines. thank you there have been many young women murdered by the same people. >> he allowed us to come across our border we have a border that's the most dangerous place anywhere in the world. consider the most dangerous place anywhere in the world and he opened it up. and these killers are coming into our country. and they are raping and killing women. and it's a terrible thing as far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states, the states of voting in many cases frankly, a very liberal decision in many cases, it's the opposite. but they're voting and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted. including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which frankly they didn't but they would have everybody wanted

brought back ronald reagan wanted it brought back. he wasn't able to get it. everybody would get brought back and many presidents had tried to get it back. i was the one to do it. and again, this gives it the vote of the people. and that's where they wanted it every legal scholar wanted it that way. staying on the topic of abortion, president biden, seven states. i'll let you do that. this is the same topic, seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy. i supported roe v. wade, which had three trimesters first time is between a woman and a doctor. second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation a third time is between the doctor i mean, it'd be between the woman in the state. the idea that the politicians at the founders wanted to politicians to be the ones making decisions to my woman's health is ridiculous.

that's the last no politician making a decision a doctor should be making those decisions. that's how it should be wrong. that's what you're gonna do. and if i'm elected, i'm going to restore roe v wade so that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month, and even after birth, because some states democrat run take it after birth. again, the governor, former governor of virginia with the baby dad, then we decide what to do with it. so he's he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the woman the ninth month and kill the baby. nobody wants that to happen democrat or republican. nobody wants it to happen that is simply not true. that roe v. wade does not provide for that. that's not the circumstance. only the woman's life is in danger. she's going to die. that's the only circumstance in which that can happen. but we are not for late term abortion period period, period under roe v. wade, you have late term abortion. you can do whatever you want depending on the state. you can do whatever you want. we don't think that's a good thing. we think

it's a radical thing. we think the democrats of the radicals, not the republicans, are 51 years. that was a law, 51 years constants for scholarships said it was the right way to go 51 years, and it was taking can away because this guy puts couldn't very conservative members on the supreme court. he takes credit for taking it away. what's he going to do? what's he going to do? in fact, if the, if the maga republicans, he gets elected and the maga republicans control the congress and they pass on universal van, on abortion period across the board as six weeks or seven, or eight or ten weeks, something very, very conservative. you're going to sign that bill. i'll veto it. he'll sign it. >> thank you. >> let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security. president biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on your watch overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as new york and chicago. and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns. given that, why should voters trust you to solve this crisis? >> because we worked very hard to get a bipartisan agreement

that not only changed all of that and made sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they can come across the border with the number of border police are now, we significantly increase the number asylum often significantly, by the way, the border patrol been endorsed me endorsed my position in addition to that, we find ourselves in situation where when he was president, he was taking, separating babies from their mothers, put them in cages, making sure that the families were separated that's not the right way to go. what i've done since i've changed the law, what's happened, i've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where they're 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally has bedroom. he left office and i'm going to continue to move until we get to total ban on the total initiative relative to what we're going to do with more border patrol and more asylum officers president trump. i really don't know what he said

at the end of their sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either. look we had the safest border in the history of our country. the board only had to do was leave it only had to do was leave it. he decided to open up our border, open up our country too. people that are from prisons, people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum terrorists. we have the largest number of terrorists coming into our country right now. all terrorists all over the world, not just in south america, all over the world, they come from the middle east everywhere, all over the world. they're pouring in and this guy just left it open and he didn't need legislation because i didn't have legislation. i said close the border. we had the safest border in history in that final couple of months. have mike presidency, we had according to border patrol, who is great. and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but i will won't say that. but they endorsed me for president brandon. just speak to them. but look, we had the safest border in history. now, we have the worst border in history. there's never been anything like it, and people are dying all over the place, including

the people that are coming up like arizona trump, president biden hey, only terrorist done anything cross the border is wondering, came along and kill three and administration, kill an al-qaeda person coming in administration kill three american soldiers, killed three american soldiers. that's the only terrorists is there. i'm not saying i know terrorist every got through with the idea. they're emptying their prisons. where we're welcoming these people as simply not too. there's no data to support what he said. once again, he's exaggerating. he's lying president trump staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out the largest domestic deportation operation in american history, unquote. does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in america, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses, our citizens, and including those who have lived here for decades. and if so how will you do it? just one second. he said we killed three people. the people we killed are al-baghdadi and salah

manny, the two greatest stairs, biggest terrorist anywhere in the world. and it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything he's the one that kill people with a bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying. and also killing our citizens when they come in. we are living right now in a rat's nest. they are killing our people in new york and california and every state in the union, because we don't have borders anymore. every state is it's now a border. and because of his ridiculous insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never, we call it migrant crime. i'd call it biden migrant crime. they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before. and you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days one of them i just spoke to the mother and they just had the funeral for this go 12-years-old. this is horrible. what's taking place, what's

taken place in our country will literally an uncivilized country now, he doesn't want it to be, he just doesn't know. he opened the borders. nobody's ever seen anything like and we have to get a lot of these people out or we have to get them out fast because they're going to destroy our country just take a look at where they're living. they're living in luxury hotels in new york city and other places are veterans are on the street. they're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans. here's a case, unlike the military at all. and he doesn't care about our veterans. nobody been worse. i had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the va he has the worst he's gotten rid of all the things that i approved choice that i got through congress are all of the different things i approved they abandoned. we had by far the highest and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did. and i think he did it just because i approved it, which is crazy but he has killed so many people at our border, but all of these people to come in very sad day in

america, biden you have the mic, every single thing he said is a lie every single one. for example, veterans or hell of a lot better off since i pack past the pact act 1 million of them now have insurance and their families have it their families have it because what happened, whether it was agent orange are burn pits, they're all being covered now. and he opposed his group, oppose that. were also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans. my spent my son spent a year in iraq living next to one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma. i was recently in france for d-day and i spoke about those heroes had died. i went to the world war ii cemetery where we're once amateur, refused to go to he was standing with his four-star general and he told me said, i don't want to go in there because they're much a loser and suckers. my son was not a loser, was not a sucker. you're the sucker year. the loser president trump first of all, that was a made up quote, suckers and losers. >> they made it up. it was in the third rent magazine.

that's failing like many of these magazines. he made that up. he put it in commercials. we've notified them we had 19 people that said i didn't say it and think of this who would say i'm at a cemetery or i'm talking about are veterans because nobody's taken better qarrah. so glad this came up and he brought it up there's nobody that's taken better care of ourselves is that i have to think that i would in front of generals and others say suckers and losers. we have 19 people that said it was there's never said by me. it was made up by him just like russia, russia, russia was made up just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up, just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking. it's the same thing. 51 intelligence agent said that the laptop was russia disinformation. it wasn't that came from son hunter. it wasn't russia. this information he made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to be right now. four star general

standard, your side was on your staff who said you said it? period. that's number one. and number two, the idea the idea that i have to apologize to you for anything along the line we've done more for veterans. any president has an american history american history and now or their family, the only sacred obligation we have as a country, is to care for our veterans may come home and their families and equip them when they go to war that's what we're doing. that's at the va is doing now, they're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history. >> alright, thank you so much to the topic of foreign policy. i want to begin with russia's war against ukraine, which is now in its third year former president trump, russian president vladimir putin says he'll only end this war if russia keeps the ukrainian territory. it has already claimed and ukraine abandons its bid to join nato. are putin's terms acceptable to you? >> first of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand

this guy. they can't stand him. they think is the worst commander in chief if that's what you call them? that we've ever had, they can't stand him. so let's get that straight and they liked me more than just about any of them. and that's based on every single bit of information. as far as russia and ukraine. if we had a real president, the president that knew, that was respected by putin he would've never, he would have never invaded ukraine. a lot of people are dead, right now, much more than people know. they talk about numbers. you can double those numbers may be tripled. those numbers he did nothing to stop it. in fact, i think he encouraged russia from going in at tell you what happened. he was so bad with afghanistan. it was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, that when putin watch that and he saw the incompetence that he should, he should have fired those generals like i fired the one that you mentioned. and so he's got no love loss, but he should have fired those generals no general got fired for the most embarrassing

moment in the history of our country afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind, we lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated. and by the way, we left people behind two, we left american citizens behind when putin saw that, he said, you know what, i think we're gonna go in and maybe take my was his dream. i talked to him about his dream. the difference is he never would have invaded ukraine, never just like israel would have never been invaded in 1 million years by hamas you know why because iran was broke with me, i wouldn't let anybody do business with them. they ran out of money. they were broke that no money for hamas. they had no money for anything, no money for tara. that's why you had no tara at all during my administration this place, the whole world is blowing up under him president biden never heard so much malarkey my whole life. >> look the fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where let's take the last

point first iran attacked american troops kill or cause brain damage for a number of these troops. and he did nothing about it recently when he was president. here, they tacked, he said, they're just having headaches. that's all it is. but he didn't do a thing when the attack took place. number one. number two, we got over 100 thousand americans and others out of afghanistan during that airlift. number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what trump did in ukraine he's this guy told you told trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want and that's exactly what trump did to food and encourage him do whatever you want. anyone and listen to what he said when he went in it was going to take kyiv and five days remember, because it's part of the old soviet union that's what he wanted to re-establish. kyiv. and he in fact didn't do it at all. he didn't want unable to get it done and they've lost over. they've lost thousands and thousands of troops,

500,000 troops president trump, i never said that for one minute. i just want to go back to my original question, which is, are putin's terms acceptable to you? keeping the terror and you know, they're not acceptable but look, this is a war that never should have started if we had a leader in this war, he let everybody along. he's given $200 billion now or more to ukraine. he's given $200 billion. that's a lot of money. i don't think there's ever been anything like it every time that zelenskyy comes to this country, walks away with $60 billion, is greater salesman ever. and i'm not knocking him. i'm not knocking anything. i'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war. and we shouldn't be spending, it should have never happened. i will have that war settled between putin and zelenskyy as president elect before i take office on january 20, i'll have that war settled people being killed. so needlessly, so stupidly. and i

will get it settled and i'll get it settle fast before i take office when you have a minute. in fact, is that putin is a war criminal. he's killed thousands and thousands of people. and he has made one thing clear. he wants to reestablish what was part of the soviet empire, not just a piece of wants, all of ukraine. that's what he wants. and then you think you'll stop there. do you think you'll stop when if he takes ukraine. what do you think happens the poll, what did they get? baylor. what do you think happens to those nato countries? and so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do. because if in fact he does what he says and walks away by the way, all that money we give ukraine and from weapons we make here in the united states. but given the weapons not the money at this point, and our nato allies are produced as much funding for ukraine as we have. that's why, that's why we're strong. >> thank you. moving on to the middle east in october, hamas

attacked israel, killing more than 1,000 people and taking hundreds of hostages. among those held and thought to still be alive are five americans. israel's response has killed thousands of palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in gaza president biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict. but so far, hamas has not released the remaining hostages and israel is continuing its military offensive in gaza. so what additional leverage will you use to get hamas and israel to end the war? you have two minutes. >> i'm a warrant hey, everyone from the curious. security council, straight through to the g7 to the israelis and netanyahu himself has endorsed the planet put forward, endorse the plan. i put forward which has three stages to it. the first stage is trade, the hostages for a ceasefire. second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions.

that third phase is no, the end of the war. the only one who wants the war to continue as hamas. number one, they're the only ones stand out we still pushing hard from to get them to accept. in the meantime, what's happened. and israel were financing the only thing i've denied israel was 2000 pound bombs. they don't work very well populated areas. they kill a lot and some people were provided israel with all the weapons they need. and when they need them and by the way, i'm the guy that organized the world against iran when they have a full-blown in a mostly ballistic missile attack on israel. no one was hurt, nobody one is really was accidentally killed. and it stopped we saved israel. we are the biggest producer of support for israel of anyone in the world and so that's two different things mosque cannot be allowed to be continued. we continue to send our experts and are in tones people as to how they can get a mass, like we did bin laden.

you don't have to do it. and by the way, they've been greatly weakened. tomas greatly weakened, and they should be, it should be eliminated. but you've got to be careful for what uses certain weapons among population centers it's going back to ukraine for one second we have ocean separating us. the european nations together, have spent 100 billion or maybe more than that, less than us why does he call them? so you've got to put up your money like i did with nato. i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars a secretary general of nato said, trump did the most incredible job i've ever seen. you wouldn't they wouldn't have any they were going out of business. we were spending almost 100% of the money was paid by us he didn't do that. he's getting all you got to ask these people to put up the money were over $100 billion. more spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between, you got to ask them as far as israel and

hamas, israel's the one that wants to go. he said, the only one wants to keep going as hamas actually israel is the one and you should let him go and let him finish the job. he doesn't want to do it. he's become a palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad palace city. he's a weak one. >> president biden, you have a minute. >> i've never heard so much foolishness. this the guy who wants to get out of nato, you're going to stay in data. you're going to pull out a nato the idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well. maybe a big ocean, but we've never, ever able to avoid a war in europe, a major war in europe what happens if in fact you have put and continued to go into and tomato, we have an article five agreement attack on one is attack on all you want to start a nuclear war. he keeps talking about, go ahead. let putin go in and control. ukraine and then move on. on to poland and other places she see what happens. then. he has no idea what hotel he's talking about. by the way, i got 50 other nations around the world to support ukraine, including

japan and south korea, because they understand that this was, this kind of dislocation as a serious threat to the whole world peace note, no major war in europe has ever been able to be contained just to europe president trump, just a follow up. >> would you support the creation of an independent palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region. i'd have to see, but before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money. >> so they kill us on trade. i made great trade deals with the european nations because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically, their economy is about the same size as the united states. and they were written no cars, no, they don't want anything that we have, but we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything. there agriculture i changed that. but the big thing i changed is they don't want to pay and the only reason that he can play games with nato is because i got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars. i said, and he's right about this. i said no,

i'm not going to support data if you don't pay they asked me that question. would you guard us against russia at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time. and i said no, if you don't pay, i won't do that. and you know what happened, billions and billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next month's but now we're in the same position. we're paying everybody is bills. let's turn to the issue of democracy. >> a former president trump, i want to ask you about january 6, 2021, after you rallied your supporters that de some of them stormed the capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes. as president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect, and defend unquote the constitution. what do you say to voters who believed that you violated that oath? through your actions and inaction on january 6, and worried that you'll do it again. why don't think too many believe that and let me tell you about january 6, on january 6, we had a great border. >> nobody coming through very few on january 6, we were

energy independent on january 6, we had the lowest taxes ever. we had the lowest regulations ever on january 6 were respected all over the world all over the world, we respected and he comes in and when now left, that would like a bunch of stupid people that what happened to the united states is reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which i'm sure at some point you'll be talking about where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat them fair and square you have 80 seconds left. my question was, what do you say to those voters who believed that you vital it violated your constitutional oath through your actions in an action on january 6, 2021, and worried that you'll do it again. well, i didn't say that to anybody. i said peacefully and patriotically, and nancy pelosi, if you just watched the news from to today's ago on tape to her daughter, who's a documentary filmmaker. they say what she saying. oh, no, it's my responsibility. i was

responsible for this because i offered her 10,000 soldiers are national guard and she turned them down and the mayor of in writing, by the way, the mare in writing turned it down. the mayor of dc. they turned it down. i offered 10,000 because i could see i had virtually nothing to do. the sp to go make a speech. i could see what was happening. everybody was saying they're going to be there on january 6. i gotta be there. and i said, you know what, that's a lot of people coming. you could feel it. you could feel it too, and you could feel it and i said, they ought to have some national guard or whatever and they offered it to her and she now admits that she turned it down and it was the same day she was i don't know. he can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar. she said, i take full responsibility for january where six president biden he encouraged those folks about by capital real number one, i sat in a dining room off the oval office. he sat there for three

hours three hours watching begi bean paid by his vice president and a number of his colleagues and republicans as well to do something to call for a stop, to end. it instead, he talked there, talked about patriots and great patrons of america in fact, he says he will not forgive them for what they've done they've been convicted. he says he wants to commute or sentences and say no. he went to every single court donation i don't know how many cases scores of cases including the supreme court and they said they said no, no, this guy, this guy is responsible for doing what is being done. he did do a thing. and these people should be in jail and they should be the ones are being held accountable and he wants to let them all out and now he says if he loses again, such a whiner annuity is that it could be a bloodbath. thank you, president biden. president trump where they've done to some people that are so innocent he ought to be ashamed

of yourself, what you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people when they ripped down portland, when they ripped down many other cities, you go to minnesota minneapolis, what they've done there with the fires, all over the city of i didn't bring in the national guard that city would have been destroyed. when you look at all of the they took over big chunks of seattle. i was all set to bring in the national guard. they heard that they saw them coming in. they left immediately what he said about this whole subject is so off peacefully patriotic. one other thing the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible republicans that are all gotten now it out of office. and democrats, all democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right we were right, and they deleted and destroyed all of the information. they should go to jail for that. they've are republican did that. they go to thank you, president trump,

president biden, i want to give you a minute. >> you're only person in this stage is a convicted felon as man, i'm looking at right now and the fact of the matter is he is what he's telling you is simply not true the fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up on capitol hill and all those people everyone of those who are convicted, deserves to be convicted. >> the idea that they didn't kill somebody, just win an broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices turned over desk to turn them over statues the idea that those people are patriots come on. when i asked him about first of two debates, we had the base, we had first time around. i said we denounced the proud boys he said, no, i'll tell them a standby. the id. he's refusing way you denounce these guys. we did announce the people we're talking about now it announced the people attack that capital. what are you going to do i'm going to give you a minute.

>> president trump for follow-up question. i have after a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if reelected, you would quote, have every right to go after unquote your political opponent and then she just talked about members of the select committee on january 6th going to jail a year. main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight. can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents well, i said my retribution is going to be success. we're going to make this country successful again because right now it's a failing nation. my retribution is going to be success. but when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level. his son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times. should have been convicted before, but his justice department let the statute of limitations laps. and the most important things, but he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office, you could be a convicted felon with all of the things that he's done, he's done horrible things. all of the deaths caused that the border telling the ukrainian

people that we're going to want $1 billion. your change. the prosecutor otherwise, you're not getting $1 billion. if i ever said that? that's quid pro quo? that we're not gonna do anything. we're not going to give you $1 billion unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the sun. this man is a criminal. this man, you're lucky. the lucky. i did nothing wrong. we'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting. i did nothing. well, thank you, president trump. president biden, you have said, i'm coming right to you, sir. well, you want to respond? go ahead. i'll give you a minute to respond. >> yeah. idea i did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous. it's simply a lie. number one number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any american just because your president is wrong it's simply wrong. no president's ever spoken like that? for no present in our history has spoken like that before. number three, the crimes you are still charged with and think of all the civil penalties europe, how many billions of dollars duo

and civil penalties for molesting a woman of public for doing a whole range of things i'm having sex with a pornstar on the night while your wife was pregnant. what what what are you talking about you have the morals of an alley cat get mad, sir. i didn't have sex with a porn star. number one. number two, that was a case that was started and move they moved a high-ranking official, a doj, into the manhattan da's office to start that case that case is going to be appealed and one we had a very terrible judge. what horrible judge democrat. the prosecutor were all high ranking democrats appointed people and the both the civil and the criminal. he basically went after his political opponent because they thought it was going to damage me. but when the public found out about these cases because they understand in a better than he does. he has no idea what these cases, but what they found out about these cases, you know, what they did, my poll numbers went up way up,

you know that because you're reporting it. and we took it more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in the history of any campaign. i don't think any campaign has ever taken hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring because the public knows it's a scam and it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square. >> thank you, president trump, president biden, you have said, quote, donald trump and his maga republicans are determined to destroy american democracy do you believe that the tens of millions of americans who are likely to vote for president trump will be voting against american democracy more they know about what he's done. >> yes. the more they know about what he's done. and if not more common he's got a lot of cases down the road coming out. he's got he's got a whole range of issues yes. to face. i don't know what the jury's will do and what i knew. and i do know he has real problem and so the fact that could you ever think you hear any president say that i'm going to seek retribution? do you ever hear a president say

that i thought hip right? some good ideas. what got me involved the run the first place after my son of data decided in iraq because of iraq i said i wasn't going to run again until i saw what happened in charlottesville, virginia people coming out of the woods, karen swastikas on torches, torches, and singing the same anastomotic bile. they signed when back in germany. and what and the young woman got killed, i spoke to the mother and they asked him, i said, what what do you think of those people, the people who wanted to got killed, wanted to try to stop it. and the ones he said, i think they're fine people on both sides. what american president, whatever say nazis coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the same madison medic, bile carrying swastikas we're fine people. this is the guy assess it. there's done some good things. i'd like to know what they are. the good things get much done. that's what he said. this guy has no sense of american democracy president trump, jake, both of you know

that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said 100% exoneration on that. so he just keeps it going. he says he ran because of charlottesville, didn't run because they charlottesville he ran because it was his last chance he's not equipped to be president. you know it. and i know it's ridiculous. we have a debate. we're trying to justify his presidency. his presidency, his without question. the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country. we shouldn't be having a debate about it. there's nothing to debate. he made up the charlottesville story and you'll see it the bumped all over the place. every anchor has every reasonable actor has debunked it. and just the other de it came out where it was fully a debunked. it's a nonsense story. he knows that and he didn't run because of charlottesville. he used that as an excuse to run president biden and debunk it happened. all you have to do is listen to what we said at the time and the idea that somehow that's

the only reason i ran i ran because i was worried a guy like this guy can get elected if he thought they were good people coming out of that all that forest. kerry knows what karen knows, tortures that he didn't deserve would it be president, didn't his surgery president at all and the idea that he's talking about all of this being fabricated. we saw with our own eyes, we saw what happened on january 2. we saw the people breaking windows. we saw people occupying there. his own vice president. look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused endorsing this time. as vice president has endorsed in this time. so why, why they know him well, they serve with them. why are they not endorsing him? >> thank you, president biden, we're gonna be right back with more from the cnn presidential debate here we, got again.

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causes. and black americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white americans. what do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress. >> knowledge he made a lot of progress, number one, the facts of the matter as more small black businesses that were started in any time in history number two, of wages of black or black unemployment is the lowest level of span in a long, long time number three, we find him in friday for friday, housing for black americans and dealing with text segregation that exist among these corporate cocoon, these corporate ratios are collude to keep up people out of her house in addition to that, we find that the impact of on the choice that black families have to make relative to childcare is a incredibly difficult when we did the first major piece of legislation in the past. i was able to reduce black childcare

costs, cut them in half in half. we're going to make sure we provide for childcare costs. got to make sure because when you provide that child care protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market so there's more to be done, considerably more to be done. but we've done a great deal so far, and i'm not letting up and they know it. >> you have 49 seconds left. what do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far? >> i say i don't play in the for being disappointed inflation is still hurting them badly. for example, i provided for the idea that any black family first-time home buyer, she got a $10,000 tax it's credit to be able to buy their first home. so they can get started. i made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families, black individuals provide it to head to take out student loans that were bologna, that a favorite and guy gaze and nursing doc and anything having to do with

volunteerism? if they paid their bills for ten years. and their student debt all the rest of us are forgiven after ten years minutes have benefited from that and we're going to do a whole lot more for black families. >> thank you, president trump. >> and he caused the inflation. he's blaming inflation and he's right, there has been very bad. he caused the inflation and it's killing black families and hispanic families. and just about everybody. it's killing people. they can't buy groceries anymore. they can't. you look at the cost of food where it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled tupled they can't live there, not living anymore. he causes inflation. i gave him a country with no essentially no inflation. it was perfect. it was so good, only had to do is leave it alone. he destroyed it with his green new scam and all of the other all this money that's being thrown out the window. he caused inflation i sure. as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the

millions of people that is allowed to come in through the border. they're taking black jobs now, and it could be 18, it could be 19 and even 20 million people, they're taking black job and they're taking hispanic jobs. and you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history. thank you, president biden there was no inflation when i became friends. >> why economists flat on his back? 50% unemployment. he decimated the economy. absolutely decimated the comment. that's why there's no inflation at the time. there were no jobs. we provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who are involved communities including minority communities. we made sure that they have health insurance we have covered if the aca has increased, i made sure that their $8,000 per person and a family to puckett written off and health care. but this guy wants to eliminate that. they tried 50 times. he wants to get rid of the aca again and they're going to try again if they went we find

ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing i've put more we put more police on the street and any administration has. he wants to cut the cops were providing for equity equity and making sure people have shot to make it there's a lot going on, but inflation, he caused it by his tremendous mt fees. and so the way handle the pandemic. thank you. another persistent challenge is the climate crisis i said 2023 was the hottest year in recorded history and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels former president trump, you vowed to end your opponents climate initiatives, but will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? well, let me just go back to what he said about the police how close the police had him, almost every police group

in the nation from every state is supporting donald j. trump. almost every police group. and what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for ten years he called them super-predators. we can't in the 1990s weekend forget that super-predators was his name and he called it to him for ten and they've taken great offense at it and now they see it happening but when they see what i did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities where i funded them and got them all funded. and the opportunity zones with with tim, as you know, tim scott was incredibly did a great job, great senator from south carolina. he came to me with the idea and it was a great idea. it's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country opportunity zones and the biggest beneficiary or blacks. and that's why we have the best numbers with them maybe ever, they're saying ever i read this morning where ever the best numbers he's lost much of the black population

because he's done a horrible job for black people. he's also done a horrible job for hispanics. but why do you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs. and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet. it's a disaster. >> 38 seconds left, president trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis? so i want absolutely a immaculate clean water. >> and i want absolutely clean air. and we had it we had h2o, we had the best numbers ever and we did we were using all forms of energy, all forms, everything. and yet during my four years, i had the best environmental numbers ever. and my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before i walked on the stage. actually i don't know where the hell he band the idea that any of the he said it's true. i've passed them most extensive most

extensive climate change legislation in history. in history we find ourselves and by the way, black colleges, i came up with $50 billion or hbcus historic black universities and colleges because they don't have, they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories in the life any black student is capable in college, you're doing any white student can do. you just have the money, but now there'll be able to get those jobs and high-tech, we're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water the cleanest water he had not a thing that environment he out of the paris peace accords climate accord, i immediately joined it because if we read hate 1.5 degrees celsius at any one point where there's no way back. the only existential threat to humanity is climate change. and he didn't do a thing about it. you must undo all although i've done the paris accord was going to cost us $1 and china

nothing, and russia, nothing, and india, nothing. it was a rip off of the united states and i ended it because i didn't want to waste that money because they treated us horribly. we were the only ones that was costing us money. nobody else was paying into it. and it was it was a disaster. but everything that he said just now, i'll give you an example. i heard him say before insulin, i'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors. i took care of the seniors. what he's doing let's destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody and i have i have the biggest heart in the stage. i guarantee you that. and i want to take care of people, but we're destroying our country. they're taking over our schools or hospitals, and they're going to be taking over social security. he is destroying social security. medicare here and medicaid the ideas that we in fact, we've were the only ones of consequence or not. were not members of the paris accord how

can we do anything? we're not able to, the united states can't get this under control one of the largest polluters in the world, number one, are making significant progress by 2035, we will have cut pollution and af we have made, we have made significant progress we're continuing to make progress. we set up a climate corps first, thousands of young people will learn how to deal with cupp just like a peace corps. and we're going to we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution. but the idea he claims that he has the biggest heart up hearing is really concerned about about pollution and about climate i've not seen any indication of that and by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which i was calling for one voluntarily. i made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company can not have to pay and by the way so every day,

millions of americans struggled just to make ends meet for many older american social security provides a critical lifeline president biden, if nothing is done to social security seniors will see their benefits cut in just over ten years. will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep social security solvent? yes. make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share right now, everybody making under hundred and $70,000 a 6% of their income, of their paycheck every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one that yet when 18-years-old, the idea that they're going to ivory proposing that everybody they pavement millionaires pay 1%, 1%. so no one after i've raised the cost of social security for anybody under $400,000 after that, i began to make the wealthy, begin to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life

so you still have at two seconds left. are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep social security solvent or is just that one enough? well, that one enough will keep us solvent. >> but the biggest thing i'll do if we defeat this man because he wants to get rid for security he thinks there's plenty to cut social security. he's wanted to cut social security and medicare both times. and that's what and if you look at the program put forward by the house republican caucus that he supports. is in fact, wanted to cut it as well. the idea that we don't need to protect our seniors is ridiculous. we put and by the way american public has greater health care coverage today than ever before. and then they see, as i said, you're. in a circumstance where 400,000 people, for me, 40 million people would not have insurance because they have a preexisting condition. only thing allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they in fact are part of the aca and by the way,

the other thing is we're in a situation where i talk about education for black communities. i've raised the number, the amount of money for pell grants and other $8,000. anybody making under $70,000 year are going to be able to get $15,000 towards the tuition he just doesn't know what he's talking about. >> thank you, president biden, president trump. >> so i've dealt with politicians all my life. i've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years. i've never seen anybody lie like this guy he lives are never seen that. he could look you in the face so so many other things to and we mentioned the laptop, we mentioned russia, russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, ukraine, everything he does is ally. it's misinformation and disinformation the losers and sucker story that he made up is a total lie on the military. it's a disgrace. but social security he's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and

they are putting amounts of social security. the pudding amount of medicare medicaid. they putting him in our hospitals, they taking the place of ir said this ends there. what they're doing to the va, to our veterans is unbelievable. veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels. he doesn't know what he's doing and it's really coming back. i've never seen such anger in our country before. >> president biden. the idea of veterans are not being taken care of. i told you before by the way, when i said suckers and losers, he said he acknowledges after that he fired that general that gentle got fired because he's the one that acknowledged that that's what he said. he was the one standing with trump when he said it number one, number two, the idea that we're going to be in a situation where all of these millions and millions a way talks about it. illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs. there's a reason why we have the fastest-growing economy in the world. the reason why we had most successful economy in the world

we're doing better than any other nation in the world and by the way those 15 nobel laureates he talked about being phony us 50 nobel laureates, economists. they all said that if trump is reelected or lactic acid recession and inflation is going to increase the go up and by the way, worst president history, hundred and 59 presidential scholars voted him the worst president in history of nine states america president biden, thank you so much. let's turn to the cost of childcare, which many american families struggle to afford president trump, both you and president biden have tried to address this issue, but the average cost of childcare in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child for many families, the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent in your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable just go back, the general got fired because he was no good. >> and if he said that, that's why he made it up, but we have 19 people that said i didn't say it and they're very highly respected much more so than the

other thing is he doesn't fire people. he never fired people. i've never seen him fie already, but i did fire a lot. i fired comey because he was no good. i fired a lot of the top people at the fbi drain the swamp they were no good, not easier to fire people, get pay a price for it. but there were no good i inherited these people. i didn't put them that would call me there. he was no good. i fired him. this guy is if fight. anybody? he'd never first, he should have fired every military man that was involved with that afghan. the afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country he didn't find it. you fire anybody. did you fire anybody that's on the border? that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world. did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from from mental institutions. that you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed? joe, our country is being destroyed as you and i sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate. this shouldn't be

a debate he is the worst president. he just said about me because i said it. but look, he's the worst president in the history of our country. he's destroyed our country. now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border. he come out came out with a nothing or nothing deal and it reduced it a little bit, a little bit like this much. it's insignificant. he wants open borders. he wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters and i don't think we just can't let it happen if he wins this election, our country three doesn't have a chance, not even a chance of coming out of this rut we probably won't have a country left anymore. that's how bad it is. he is the worst in history by far. >> thank you, president trump, president biden we are the most admired country in the world we're the united states of america. >> there's nothing beyond our capacity. we have the finest military history of the world, the finest in the history of the world. no one thinks we're week, no one wants to screw

around with us. nobody. number one, number to the idea that we're talking about worst presidents. i wasn't joking. look it up or gone why hundred and 59 or felt 58 on home in the exact number presidential historians, they've had meetings and they voted, who is the worst president in american history one from best to worst, they said he was the worst and all of american history. that's a fact that's? not that's not conjecture. he can argue the wrong, but that's what they voted. the idea that he is knowing doing anything to deal with childcare. if he did very for virtually nothing to talk here. we should significantly increase the child care tax credit, which is significantly increase the availability of women and men are single parents to be able to go back to work. and we should encourage businesses to hold, to have thank you. precedent president trump, the question was about, what would you do to make tout care more affordable if you want to take you're minute just you understand. >> we have polling, we have

other things that they read them the worst. >> because what he's done is so bad and they raped me, ya show you, i wish. and they raped me one of the best. okay. and if i'm given another four years, i will be the best i think i'll be the best nobody's ever created a economy like us, nobody ever cut taxes like us. he's the only one i know he wants to raise your taxes by four times. he wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times. he wants to trump tax cuts to expire. so everybody including the two of you are going to pay four to five times. nobody ever heard of this before. all my life, i'd grow up and i see politicians talking about cutting taxes when we cut taxes, as i said, we did more business, apple at all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country the worst president in history by far. and everybody knows it president biden, look fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about he's increased. >> tara, he's increased. he will increase the taxes on middle-class people i said i'd

never raised the tax upon anybody making less than $400,000. i didn't in this tariff is 10% terrorists, everything coming into the country, you know what economists say, that's going to cost the average american $2,500 a year more because they're gonna have to pay the difference. food and all the things that are very important. number two, hizon a situation where he talks about how he is not raised he's he's he somehow helped the middle-class lower-class have been devastated by you now you want a new tax credit, $5 over the next ten years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country. you have the largest deficit of any president in american history. number one, number two, you have not in fact made any contact, any any any progress? with china. we are the lowest trade deficit with china since 2010. thank you. present you lost a good precedent, but let's discuss an epidemic impacting millions of americans. the both of you

have made a top priority in your first term. the opioid crisis and for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has gone up under your term. it went up under your term. it has gone up. a former president trump, despite the efforts at both of you have made more than 100,000 americans are dying from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids what will you do to help americans right now in the throes of addiction, who are struggling to get the treatment they need to finish up we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under this guy, we have the largest deficit with china he gets paid by china. he's a manchurian candidate. he gets money from china. we have, i think he's afraid to deal with them or something. but do you notice he never took out my terrorists because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that i imposed on china. he never took them away, can't because it's too much money. it's tremendous. and we saved our steel industries and there was more to come but he hasn't done that. but he hasn't cut the

tariffs because he can't because it's still much money, but he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country, and he's got the worst the worst situation with china. john is going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country, they are killing us as a country. jail. and you can't let that happen. you're destroying our country president trump, you have 67 seconds left. the question was, what are you going to do to help americans in the throes of addiction right now, who are struggling to get the treatment they need jake doing very well at addiction until the covid came along, we had the two-and-a-half, almost three years of like, nobody's ever had before any country in every way and then we had to get tough and it was the drugs pouring across the border where it started to increase. >> we got great equipment. we bought the certain dog that's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen the way they can spot it. we did a lot and we had we were getting very low numbers, very, very low numbers. then he came along the

numbers. have you seen the numbers now? it's not only the 18 million people that i believe is even low because they the got-away is i don't even talk about gatto ways but the numbers of the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women coming across our border. the worst thing i've ever seen at numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the border so bad but the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far. president trump. thank you, president biden fentanyl. and the byproducts fentanyl went down for awhile. and i wanted to make sure we use them machinery, they can detect fentanyl is big machines rollover everything, it comes across the border and it costs a lot of money. that was part of this deal we put together as bipartisan deal more fentanyl machines, more, more, be able to detect drugs, or more of a numbers of agents, more numbers of all people at the border, and bring when we had that deal done he won. he called his

republican comics and don't do it. it's going to hurt me politically. now, he never argued it's not a good bill. it's a really good bill. we need those machines. we need those machines, and we're coming down very hard and every country in asia, in terms of precursors from fentanyl and mexico is working with us to make sure they don't i have the technology to be able to put it together. that's what we have to do. we need those machines. >> thank you, president button, president trump. and again, the question is about americans in the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need. >> this because this does pretended to it he ended remain in mexico. he ended catch and release. i met a catch and release in mexico, not catch and release here. we had so many things that we had done hard negotiations with mexico and i got it off and nothing. it just like when he have a hostage whale is based 6 billion for every tebor is a hostage now, we have a hostage. the wall street journal reporter, i think a good guy, and he's over there because

putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter, i will have him out very quickly as soon as i take office before i take off, as i said, by literally as soon as i win the election, i will have that report are out. he should have had amount of long time ago, but putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time we had two cases were paid $6 billion for five people. i got 58 people out and i paid essentially nothing. >> thank you, president trump, dana let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you president biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term how do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s well, first of all, i have my career being criticized, being the youngest person in politics. >> i was the second youngest person ever elected the united states senate and now i'm the

oldest disguise three years younger, a lot less competent. i think it's just look at the record. look what i've done. i've turned around, they're horrible situation. he left me as i said, 50 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs foreign investment in america over million, billions of dollars in private investment in an enterprise is that we are growing. we've invited way, we brought off a lot of people the whole idea of computer chips, we said 40% of the market we invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to cheap find the cheapest jobs overseas and bring home a product. so i went and i went to south korea. i convince samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the united states and guess what, those fabs they call them, that took to build these chips those fabs pay over $100,000. you don't need a college degree for them. and there's billions, about $40 billion

already been invested in being built right now in the united states, created significant jobs for americans all over from all over the world. >> president biden, you have 40 seconds left. would you like to add anything? yeah, i would the idea that somehow we are failing country i never heard a president of talk like this before. we were the nba were name me a single major country president wouldn't trade places with the united states, america for all our problems in all our opportunities where the most progressive country in the world and getting things done where the strongest country in the world, where country in the world who keeps our word. and everybody trusts us all of our allies and our, and our op those who he called us up to from kim jong un, we says love letters to uproot and et cetera. they don't want to screw around with us. >> thank you for president trump to follow up. you would be at two at the end of your second term what do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities? it's to serve.

>> well, i took two tests, cognitive tests, i paste them both of them as you know, we made it public. he took done i'd like to see him take one just want a really easy one. light go through the first five questions. he couldn't do it but i took to cognitive tests. i took physical exams every year and, you know, we knock on wood wherever we may have, would that i'm in very good health. i just want to club championships, not even senior two regular slept championships to do that, you have to be quite smart and you have to be able to hit the ball along way. and i do it. he doesn't do it. he can't hit a ball 50 yards. he challenged me to a golf match. he can hit a ball 50 yards i think i'm a very good shape. i feel that is in good shape as i was 25, 30 years ago, actually, i'm probably a little bit lighter, but i'm as good as shape as i was years ago. i feel very good. i feel the same, but i took i was willing to take a cognitive test and you know what if i didn't do well, i aced them dr. ronny jackson, who's a great guy. what he was white house doctor. and then i took another one, a similar one. and

both one of them said they'd never seen anybody acm. >> thank you. president biden you can see he is six foot five and only 223rd found are trying to 35 pounds well, you said 64200 well, anyway, that's it. you're just take a look at what he says. he is. take a look at what he is look, i'd be happy to have a driving contest with him marine, i got my handicap, which when i was vice president down to a six and what by the way, i told you before, i'm happy to play golf with if you're carryon bag thank you. can do it that's the biggest lie that he is a six handicap of all hours at aid handicap. now eight i have. how many have seen this way? i know you swing. >> let's president trump. we're going, let's not actually like children civic concern that voters have about you will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been

exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election regardless of who wins and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable well, i shouldn't have to say that, but of course, i believe that it's totally unacceptable. >> and if you would see my statements that i made on twitter at the time, and also my statement that i made in the rose garden, you would say is one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. in addition the speech i made in front of i believe the largest crowd i've ever spoken to, and i will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. they talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the capitol. and in many cases were ushered in by the police. and as nancy pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. she said that loud and clear but the answer is, if the election is fair free, and i want that more than anybody. and i'll tell you something i wish it was a great president because i wouldn't be here right now. i'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself. i

wouldn't be under indictment because i wouldn't have been as political appointees opponent because he indicted me because i was his opponent. i wish she was a great president. i would rather have that. i wouldn't be here. i don't mind being here, but the only reason i'm here is u so bad as a precedent that i'm going to make america great again, we're going to make america great again. we are a failing nation right now. we're seriously failing nation. and we're failing nation because of him. his policies are so bad his military policies are insane. they're insane. these awards that will never end with him he will drive us into world war iii and we're closer to world war iii than anybody can imagine we are very, very close to world war iii and he's driving us there. and kim jong lan and president xi of china and kim jong un of north korea all of these potent, they don't respect them. they don't fear him. they have nothing going with this gentleman and he's going to

drive us into world war iii we want to world war iii him follow and when and i put and say do what you want. nato, just do what you want. there's a thing called article five attack on one is attack on all required response the idea, the idea, i can't think of a single major leader in the world wouldn't trade places with what job i've done, what they've done because we are powerful nation, we have wonderful piece because of the people, not means because he's american people. they're capable of anything and they step up when they're needed. and right now, we're needed or needed to protect the world because it our own safety is at stake. again, you want to have a war, just let putin go ahead and take kyiv, make sure they move on. see what happens in poland, hungary, and other places along that border. then you have a war president trump, as i come back to you for a follow-up the question was, will you accept the results of this election regardless of who

wins just to finish what he said, if i might russia they took a lot of land from bush. they took a lot of land from obama and biden. they took no land, nothing from trump, nothing he knew not to do it not going to play games with me. he knew that i got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games. he took nothing from me but now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here. that's a war that should and never started. it would've never started, ever with me. and he's going to take ukraine and u.s. a. question before would you do this with he's got us in such a bad position right now with ukraine and russia because ukraine's it out winning that war he said, i will never settle until such time. they're running out of people, they're running out of soldiers, they've lost so many people. it's so sad. they've lost so many people and they've lost those gorgeous cities with a golden domes that are thousand years old, all because

of him and stupid decisions russia would've never attacked the question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? >> yes or no, please. >> if it's a fair and legal and good election absolutely. i would have much rather accepted these but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous that if you want well, have a news conference on it in a week or we'll have another one of these a week. but i will absolutely. there's nothing i'd rather do. it would be much easier for me to do that then i'm running again. i wasn't really going to run until i saw the horrible job he did. he's destroying our country. i would be very happy to be someplace else and a nice location someplace. again, no indictments no political opponents stuff, because it's the only way he thinks he can win. but unfortunately it's driven up by numbers and driven of up to a very high level because the people understand it let's series, you're numbers

are in this election is over. let's see, your whiner. when you lost the first time, you see, you continue to appealed an appeal, the court's all across the country not one single court in america. said any of your clients at any merit state, or local, none. but you continue to promote this lie about somehow there's all this miss misrepresentation , all the stealing, there's no evidence of that at all. and i tell you what i dealt with accepted because there's such a whiner the idea if you lose again, you accepted anything, you can't stand the loss. something snapped and would lost last time we'll be right back with more from the cnn presidential debate live from georgia every week good

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have to make sure that we have a fair tax system. i ask anyone out there in the audience, i really went out and watching this debate. do you think the tax system is fair? the fact is that i said, nobody even making under $400,000 had a single penny increasing their taxes and it will not. and if i'm reelected, that'll be the case again. but this sky is as increased your taxes because of the deficit. number one, is increased inflation because the block when he left after way he handled the pandemic. and he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything comes nine states, america when i did, when for example, he wants to get away with it and get rid of the ability of medicare to for the ability to hit for the u.s to be able to negotiate drug prices with a big pharma companies well, guess what? we got we got it down 15 excuse me, $35 for insulin instead of

$400 no more than $2,000 for every senior, no matter what how much prescriptions i need. you know what that did? that reduced the federal debt. debt by 100 160 billion over ten years because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices. i'm going to make that available to every senior all all along and it's happening now. and everybody in america, he wants to get rid of that. we have i'm going to make sure that we have childcare we're going to significantly increase the credit people have for childcare. i'm going to make sure we do something about what we're doing on lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country. we're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break thank you president biden, president trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement like so many politicians, is met, it's just a complainer. >> he said we want to do this. we want to do that. we want to get rid of this tax, that tax but he isn't doing anything he

doesn't do oily. does this make our country on safe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in our military doesn't respect him. we looked like fools and afghanistan we didn't stop. israel. it was such a horrible thing that would have never happened. it should have never happened. iran was broke. anybody that did business with grant, including china, they couldn't do business with the united states. they all passed a red was broke. they had no money for hamas or hezbollah for tara, no money whatsoever. again, ukraine should have never happened. he talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it for three-and-a-half years. we're living in hell we, have the palestinians and we have everybody else writing all over the place. you talk about charlottesville. this is 100 times charlottesville, 1,000 times show the whole country is exploding because he, you because they don't respect you, and they have to respect their president and they don't respect you throughout the world. what we did was incredible. we rebuilt the military, we got the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulation cuts in

history. the reason he's got jobs is because i cut the regulations that gave jobs, but he's putting a lot of those regulations back on. all of the things that we've done, nobody's ever never seen anything like even from the medical because standpoint right to dry. well, we can try space-age materials instead of going to asia or going to europe and trying to get when you're terminally ill. now you can go and you can get something you signed a document they'd been tried to get it for 42 years. but you know what we did for the military was incredible choice for our soldiers were, are soldiers instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up, and take care of themselves. and they're living and that's why had the highest approval rating of the history of the va. so all of these things were in a failing nation, but it's not going to be failing anymore. we're going to make it great again thank you. former president trump president biden, stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate. anderson cooper

and erin burnett starts now on cnn the president and former president, making their way off the cnn debate stage. >> that's like jill biden, the first lady, has come out from president trump walking off the stage. the first debate of the 2024 campaign, and the earliest presidential debate ever now, in the books and in front of the voters tonight along with erin burnett the first word on what those voters might make a bit from our political professionals, from our cnn flash poll and swing-state focus group. will be talking to sort of gets included vice president harris getting fact checks from or daniel dale and new reporting from inside both campaigns would be here, cnn political commentator scott jennings, kate bedingfield, david urban van jones. so let's far griffin, a news nine anchor, abby phillip, david axelrod, and cnn chief national correspondent john king. john, let me start with you. your thoughts? anderson. this was a game changing