continues to be in the race, i support them. that's flattering. when people mention your name and something like that. but i think it's a reflection of all the good things going on in kentucky we should remember that also, what's rough isn't about a supreme court decision or joe biden's mental acuity or so forth. it's the people watching the show, right now when they turn off their tv, they're going to drive to work and they're going to stop and get a biscuit or a doughnut coffee. and i can be upset with what a cost. and if they didn't do that, they're going to go to a grocery store? yes. they're going to go to grocery store. people's lives are rough right now because they're paying for more and they're not having this larger watch. the smaller washington conversation. they're focused on what's going on in their lives and they're not happy with the direction of the country big problem for joe biden. >> but anything that goes to this point that the conversation that is happening in the country maybe very different than the conversation we've been having since last thursday. here in washington. and we ought to hear what people have to say. yeah. i mean, it's and that's what, of course we're going to wait wait for those numbers because

as you heard, my quickly say, it's probably the only thing out there that might change president biden's mine. all right. thanks to our panel. thanks to all of you for joining us this morning. i'm casing hot, don't go anywhere. santa new central starts right now and now the fallout after the supreme court ruling on presidential immunity, donald trump makes us first moved to toss his new york criminal conviction there are no kings in america. >> president biden issuing a forceful warning in the wake of that ruling about the dangers of a second donald trump presidency, how his campaign it is using the supreme court's decision to try to rally voters they thought they were going to die. >> that is what passengers are saying and describing the terrifying moments they experience. princeton board a flight that had severe turbulence, injuring at least 30 people. i'm kate bolduan with sara sidner in john berman. this is cnn news central brand new this morning.

>> what can a president get away with? it might not be the exact framing of the supreme court was after and it's blockbuster ruling providing an expansive view of presidential immunity. but it is a question highlighted this morning and new legal filings, new campaign statements, and new political threats. this was president biden's warning there's nation was founded on the principle that there are no kings in america each, each of us is equal before the law no one no one is above the law not even the president united states in, fact the ruling cast a new light on statements endorsed by trump on social media calling to try and jail political opponents. >> chief justice john roberts says, courts cannot question discussions. a president has with his justice department.

arguably at all this concerns what a president might do as for what a former president is already doing, donald trump is trying to, trying to get his new york criminal conviction thrown out just days before sentencing. are katelyn polantz is here with the latest on that, caitlin, what can you tell us? >> john, they're going to take this supreme court opinion and they are going to run with it in any way that they can in any of the cases that donald trump has against him still pending. so he is convicted in new york by a jury, but it's not final yet because there's a sentencing on the calendar. and so what donald trump's legal team game is saying now, in a letter that they have filed with the court up there in new york. they're saying that they want to challenge this conviction because there were things that happened in trial that the judge allowed in presidential tweets or tweets that they say we're part of the presidency and should be protected. and also some testimony money from hope hicks, who was a top adviser.

she testified against trump at that trial his team is going to challenge that and say that shouldn't have been part of the trial and the whole thing should get tossed and the sentencing perhaps should be delayed as well. here's a little bit more of that argument from trump's attorney will scharf speaking with kaitlan collins last as night what we have in new york is a situation where a substantial number of official acts of the presidency, things that we believe are official acts were used as evidence to support the charges in that new york trial. >> we believe that that corrupts that trial. that indicates that that jury verdict needs to be overturned. and at the very least he slowly deserve a new trial where those immune acts will not come into evidence remember this is a state court, the judge up there is going to have to look at this. >> there will very likely be some responses that pushback on this coming in from the district attorney's office in new york. but this is just a glimpse into what the strategy she is now going to be going forward they got a little bit

out of the supreme court here on getting presidential immunity. and they're going to try and use that any way they can in every chord, john. >> yep, just the beginning. kayla polantz, thanks so much great to see you this morning. sir. all right. so that was the legal fellow. let's now turn to the political retribution donalds trump seems to be referencing cnn is alayna treene joining us now, lina trump was very active on social media following this decision, praising the court being very happy about it. is he offering a preview of what's to come? >> he could be sarah luck. i mean, you're totally right yesterday i following this decision, we did see donald trump really ramped up his rhetoric, calling for retribution against his political opponents. and of course, i think the big thing to keep in mind here is what this means in light of that supreme court ruling. now that the supreme court has ruled that essentially presidents have absolute immunity for official acts. many critics are

worried about whether this means that frankly, donald trump could be untouchable if he is back in the white house. take a listen to what the former president said about steve abandon reporting to federal prison. yeah. mr. day for contempt. contempt of congress. he said that he thinks biden is going to pay a big price for it. take a listen what they've done in this country is unthinkable and biden is going to pay a big price for it, i believe because i think that the people dug going to say, wow, you've opened up a pandora's box, is a terrible thing that they've opened up. >> they've unleashed this. this is the third world countries. now they've, they've wanted to silence, see ben and the only way they could do it recently putting them in jail now, sarah luck, this language from donald trump isn't exactly knew. >> we have heard him call for months that he would potentially seek to prosecute his political opponents if he is back in the white house. and

just last week on the debate stage, he was asked about this by our colleagues and he said, look, i think revenge, my revenge will be success, but then he went on to say that potentially biden could be convicted as on a felony counts if he wants, he leaves the white house. he's also remember last month he told dr. phil in an interview that he thinks retribution is justified. and so i think in light the supreme court's decision it has a lot of people, particularly democrats, on edge about what this could mean and if he is reelected, what this would mean if he could be going after his political opponents, what he seek or see any sort of pushback from the court of law? it's still a question that i think many people are grappling with. sarah it is interesting because this presidential immunity case came up because of donald trump, but it means presidential immunity for official acts for all presidents that would include, you would think president biden. >> so we will see what happens when it comes to the retribution alayna treene. thank you so much for your reporting. appreciate it.

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either hi sharon, bb wrexham, the killers, and many more go for it in america thursday, july 4 and seven eastern on cnn right now, category five hurricane beryl is headed toward jamaica with winds of 165 miles per hour. >> this is a record-breaking storm and it's also not only dangerous, it's huge huge, it's the strongest hurricane to pass for the eastern part of the caribbean. the eastern part of the caribbean, since 18, 51 storms already left a trail of destruction across the island of grenada, st. vincent, the grenadines are powers still knocked out in many places this morning. seen as at least rafah and patrick oppmann there tracking this all for us. elisa. where's the storm right? now finally, exiting some of those windward islands saturday, just devastated yesterday, continues to look like a healthy, strong storm. >> you have that huge, crystal clear. i that's perfectly symmetrical signs of monster category five hurricane when 165 mile per hour for wins,

it's still sitting about six to 700 miles east of jamaica, and it's been able to rapidly intensify multiple times because these ocean temperatures are in the middle and upper 80s, acting like late august, early september. that's why we're in the early july and we're acting like its peak hurricane season as arrow continues to work its way east and will run into some dust which can eat away at some of that intensity as we go into the day today. but it's still going to remain a major hurricane as it heads towards jamaica, you've got hurricane warnings in effect where hurricane-force conditions will start as we go into wednesday looking at storm surge up to three to five feet, you've got watches in effect for the cayman islands and then eventually it will get towards mexico as we get towards the end of the week, we're looking at rainfall totals of three to six inches, maybe even up to a foot and parts of jamaica especially in those higher elevations, like i mentioned, we're looking at hurricane-force winds in jamaica, but tropical storm-force winds will scrape haiti, the dominican republic, again, worried about hurricane

came. force conditions in the cayman islands. what happens after all of this? well, it really depends on this area of high pressure that's bringing some heat to the south in the u.s. depending on how weak or strong this high pressure is, will determine if this thing continues to work its way east and if it kinda nudges north or south, somebody want to have to watch closely in the next couple of days? >> absolutely, lisa, thank you so much, patrick, what kind of damage are we talking about that we've already seen in these islands that it's firms already passed over you, know, we're still just getting in some of the first images because of course these islands, windward islands, war hit so hard to hopefully airports will begin to reopen today, which allow people who were strapped trump there to leave also allows aid district coming in. >> we know at least one person died in the aisles and st. vincent and you she trees down, you see roofs that are damage powers out. many people were left without water. and of course the concern is, as this incredibly powerful hurricane

heads towards jamaica, that is most populated island that is hit so far and so the potential for damage is just so much greater as a result of that. and course from their head onto yucatan and mexico, where are you can expect significant flooding, but of course, it's only a, be store second storm, first hurricane. so far this season at a powerful or category five, it does not bode well for the rest of hurricane season, we have a long way to go and certainly to see a storm this powerful, so early is pretty much unprecedented absolutely. >> and if anyone knows you, patrick, you have covered many a storm over the years. we've known each other. so this starting out like this is going to be a long, long hurricane season could be a long season for you it's hard to see if i didn't dry this time this time, this this time this time. it's good to see you. thank you so much, john. >> or at a hastily called nighttime statement from president biden on the supreme court ruling. did he look and sound different from his shaky debate? and then fractures to

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our passengers with fractures and injuries to their arms, faces, and legs. there about 30 people injured it was a pretty horrible feeling. we thought we were going to die there, but thank god, it didn't happen who terrifying moments joining me now, seeing and transportation analyst and former inspector general for the department of transportation, mary schiavo. we have to close. you work for a law firm that it's pending litigation against boeing and of course, you've represented families of airline crash victims in the past. mary, welcome to you this morning 30 people injured because of strong turbulence. are these incidents happening more frequently or are we just hearing about them more? >> well probably a combination of both. there have been some studies that have come out that has shown that over the years from about 1979 until now that the incidence has risen, one british university said it has risen in those years, about 55%, but there's also better reporting, more mandatory they're reporting. so the

jury's still out, but certainly this year and especially because of the weather, there have been a lot more incidents that is for sure i've always wondered this and should have asked a long time ago when you're on a flight and you're looking out your window and it's perfectly clear and everything's fine and the pilot says make sure you put your seat belts on. >> we are going to be experiencing some turbulence. how did they figure that out? what is it that they're looking at that tells them, hey, you might not be seeing it, but we're about to hit a pocket of turbulence that is a great question. and the best point of all, because at that level of this plane and several other aircraft were flying above 15,000 feet, usually like 30,000, 40,000 feet often the problem with what's called clear air turbulence and it's often the effects of movement between two jet streams are air masses. and you can't see it coming. and when you've hit it, it's wind shear, but very high up in the air and it's like you've hit a trough. and often the only way pilots can know about that as reports from

other pilots that have hit it further ahead, other flights that have hit it. and so they rely a lot on reports from other pilots because you equipment isn't there at this point to detect clear air turbulence because it's clear thunderstorm convective activity. other things you're a weather radar, your airlines radar, and the radar on the plane, they'll get that. they'll pick that up and you could be warranted on this flight, the one that happened yesterday they'd actually had a warning and they had been through some rough weather. and just when they thought they were going to relax, that's when this big drop hit and they were injured so clearer turbulence and you have to rely on controllers to tell you what other pilots have said yeah. >> so it sounds like this was basically a weathered issue, not a pilot issue, but there's been a lot of talk about boeing. there has been a lot of criticism about bowman, even boeing criticizing itself when the ceo was on capitol hill answering questions is there anything about this plane, the

787 dreamliner? minor that would have helped make this worse well, you know, i think that's one thing that the investigators need to be looking at and because people were injured and there was damage to the plane, this will be counted as yet another accident, although caused by turbulence, so they need to look at that because there have been reports so this year, we've had a triple seven bowling triple seven couple 780 7's last year, there were also reports a triple seven is 780 seven, et cetera. >> but when you go back and look at other reports, there also reports an airbus even smaller planes, but it's a good point if this plane, for some reason a response differently to the turbulence or to the drop, and the recovery from a drop, an altitude that is something investigators will look at so at this point we can't really say that that has anything to do with it, but i think the investigators will want to know does a boeing respond differently, especially fall on autopilot when you

encounter this wind shear his flight levels, and that's a good question. they will probably want to answer the same thing for other aircraft models two, so we know what to expect and the pilots most importantly know what to expect when you hit this very high level wind shear that can cause these severe turbulence injuries passengers on board. >> yeah, it's really scary because you don't see it coming and it just this happens. but you have always said, i don't even have to ask you this question, wear your seat belt. wear your seat belt, wear your seat belt as much as you can and maybe we as passengers have to start thinking about not getting up as much as we'd like to on some of these slides because you just don't know, right? >> right. especially when there's weather about you don't have to be in a tab. the effects because it's just giant streams of temperature differences and wind differences. and so absolutely you may not see it, but it could be there and your seat belt friend on the plane? >> alright. thank you so much. and i'm glad you got the memo about wearing blue mary schiavo. we are a matching set. this morning. i appreciate you

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spurred 1,000 theories. and now it's likely going to be retried. this, the emotional end of the high-profile murder trial of a massachusetts woman accused of killing her police officer boyfriend. defendant karen read hugged her family. you see there and supporters in court after the judge declared a mistrial in the case, the jury simply could not reach a unanimous verdict even after days of deliberations read was accused of drunkenly driving into her boyfriend, john o'keefe with a car on a snowy night in 2022, and then leaving him there to die. she insists she is innocent. prosecutors plan to retry her. however, here's what reads attorney says about that. >> this is what it looks like when you bring false charges against an innocent person, the commonwealth did their worst. they brought the weight of the state based on spurious charges, based on compromised investigation and investigators and compromised witnesses. this is what it looks like. guess what? they failed they failed

miserably and they'll continue to fail. >> the prosecutor say they are going to try this case again, court tv anchor julia grant joins me now you've been following this very closely. can you give us some sense of this case and what some of the key evidence was that you think left the jury just unable to determine a verdict in this case? >> sarah, good morning. great to be with you. yes. both sides font hard. and i think a lack of continuity really from both sides was problematic. from the defense. we heard a narrative on the courthouse steps long before the trial ever began, that karen read was being framed the commonwealth did not speak out, and there's a good reason for that. prosecutors are held to higher standards and private attorneys, they can't make extra judicial statements that could prejudice the defendant. so the commonwealth was quiet. we were only hearing one narrative and when it got time for trial, it seemed to like the commonwealth was doing doing everything they could to combat the narrative

that the defense put out more so than just focusing on their case, which element by element they were trying to prove a homicide by a vehicle while dui, and they kind of tried the case backwards, sarah, they started calling all sorts of witnesses who were out that night with victim john o'keefe and defendant karen can read and they told the story in a way that was confusing for the jury. and then the defense was speaking very loudly prior to trial about a third party culprit defense, which means they're going to point the finger at multiple people and blame them for the crimes that their clients was charged with. but it never happened in the courtroom. so people who kind of waiting and waiting to hear who these perpetrators were. and the defense never put forth that burden of what's called production. so i think on both sides sarah, it was a well-thought case, but there was a lot of confusion in both the stories and in the evidence i do want to ask you about a couple of things that are sort of outside of court that were mind-blowing. there was this

sort of twists and turns that included a blogger whose nickname was turtleboy. what can you tell us about how he played a role in this case? >> sarah, he's also a criminal defendant, like karen read is. and there's currently a separate state investigation going on right now. there's a grand jury inquiry being done as to whether the two of them colluded for witness intimidation. aidan kearney, who goes by turtleboy, is currently charged with 16 felonies and the cases are inextricably linked because the victims on his case we're witnesses and karen read's case. and so right now, there's a grand jury investigation going on to see if there was any collusion between the two of them. we know that an affidavits that were made public, those two were on the phone for hours upon hours and had numerous phone calls. so investigators know that much that there was heavy communication prior to trial between karen read and aidan kearney, and he has a

following and he's largely encouraged his followers to create this movement to quote unquote, free, karen read, even though sarah is, you know she's out on bond, she's not jailed as a defendant you also have this other issue of a state trooper who helped lead the investigation. he was actually relieved of duty because of some of the text messages that came out where he was talking about her body and what she looked like. do we expect to hear from him in a mistrial? after the mistrial, sarah, that after the mistrial or perhaps that's a great question, sarah. michael proctor, the lead investigator on this. this was a tough one because his conduct was disgraceful. the things he said his unprofessionalism, it was inexcusable and the massachusetts state police, you have to wonder if they felt as if he had any role in this hung jury if his misconduct in terms

of names, he called karen read, had any part in this the one thing that is key to understand about procter is there's no proof that he tampered with anything. so yes, he said terrible things. he was unprofessional. he was discussing the case with people in his family, friends, people who should have no knowledge of it. but when it comes to the actual framing that karen read's defense team claims happened. there's no evidence that michael proctor did any of that, so i wouldn't be surprised to your question if he has a lawyer and if he speaks out in that regard and sarah, the state or the commonwealth, i should say rather, may have to call him in the second go around even though he's been fired if any other witness saw him collecting the pieces of karen reads broken taillight at the scene, then the commonwealth is okay. they can call that witness instead of him and leave them out of the case entirely. but if he was the only one to collect that evidence they're gonna be stuck with them. sara. >> and then of course, the defense is going to go after him on cross. so this will be

replayed all over again. if prosecutors do indeed say what they're going to do, which is retry this case the court tv's julie grant. thank you so much for walking us through. what is a spectacle if nothing else, other case. i appreciate your time this morning. >> sure. is. appreciate you, sarah. thank you for having me knew this morning and bright spot perhaps for the biden campaign today, the campaign importing it, hold in $127 million in the month of june, a strong showing after some signs that it's fundraising was slowing, the campaign touting it as june marking the campaigns best month of the cycle is obviously does not yet factor in the real impact of the president's debate performance as democrats. so fear at the same time, president biden is trying to turn the page a little bit, rally voters with a new warning about the danger. he says donald trump presents to democracy in the wake of the supreme court decision today's decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no

limits. >> or the president can do this a fundamentally new principle and. it's a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law, even including the supreme court in the united states the only limits will be self-imposed by the president alone. i know i will respect the limits of the presidential powers i have for three-and-a-half years but any president, including donald trump we'll now be free to ignore the law cnn's arlette sizes at the white house for us are, let is the biden campaign hoping this brings them something of a course correction okay, president biden is trying to use this supreme court ruling on immunity to try to turn attention back to one of the key tenants of his presidential campaign at a time when his team is continuing to grapple with the fallout after biden's halting debate performance. now, the president and remarks here at the white house last night warns that donald trump

poses a threat to american democracy. he said that this supreme court ruling, a fundamentally impacts the power of the presidency and said it would embolden trump to do whatever he pleases whenever he wants. the president said that voters should look at this ruling and dissent at the ballot box in november at the same time, the biden campaign has also seizing on trump's legal team indicating that they want to challenge the verdict, that hush money trial after this immunity ruling, a campaign spokesperson saying quotes, today's decision isn't a front to the rule of law. and the very ideals our country was built on. but it has nothing to do with donald trump being convicted of 34 felonies for paying hush money to a porn star and then breaking the logic, cover it up. it comes as the biden campaign is looking for some type of reset the president really trying to turn the focus refocus the campaign debates around donald trump and the threat that he poses to democracy. instead of having everything focused on himself

after that bad debate, performance last thursday. now, it comes as the biden campaign behind the scenes has been working the phone, trying to ease concerns of many anxious democrats. something that biden's team has been hearing from allies as they want to see president biden out there doing more non scripted moments, things like who's conferences or town halls. we know senior advisers are considering the possibility that biden could hold a major interview, that no final decision has been made but clearly the biden campaign is looking for ways to try to reset the conversation at this moment that is part of what they're hoping with that those remarks from last night, i'll also note they do have that one bright spot when it comes to fundraising, raising now, 127 million in june and ending the month with $240 million cash on hand. that's important because that will help them buy advertisements, open campaign offices hi, or more organizers but still many questions loom for president biden and his campaign about the path forward

at a time when many democrats are anxious about what it would mean to he biden at the top of the ticket in november good to see you, arlette. >> thank you so much. john. with us now, jason osborne, former senior advisor to the trump campaign in 2016, and cnn political commentator paul by gallup poll, i do want to start with you because of new comments from congressman mike quigley democrat from illinois. we just heard from a lot about how the biden camp pain is trying to calm nerves among the democratic party. i'm not sure it's working with congressman quigley. he just told cnn, quote, what i'm stressing is it has to be his decision. biden's decisions, but we have to be honest with ourselves that it wasn't just a horrible night, but i won't go beyond that out of my respect and understanding for president didn't you biden the very proud person who has served us extraordinarily well for 50 years. i just want him to appreciate it this time. just how much an impact, not just his race, but on all the other races coming in november. it wasn't just one horrible like

congressman quigley says, and he missed it biting his tongue there. what do you read into that i don't have to read anything. >> i've not talked to congressman quickly, but i've talked a lot politicians and a lot of members, democrats course that's what they're saying i think the key moment, the peril of this debate, collapse for biden is not over. the key moments are going to be as we head into this fourth of july weekend, every members going home, they're all going to march in their terrific community. fourth of july parades. what they hear from their fellow democrats in their districts is going to matter a lot. maybe they will here. hey, he's a great guy stick by joe, don't stab in the back. he delivered us from trump. he can win. but maybe they're going to hear more like mike quigley, st is, look, it wasn't just a bad night. it was a collapse. and we got to get a new candidate that they will come back after this fourth of july and you're going to hear and i think that's when this thing well, one way or the other is going to be resolved. >> and paul, what about what people are hearing from the

biden campaign and the white house when they do raise concerns, which is bed wetter, pearl culture how effective is it to call names of people who are raising concerns about the present debate performance it is very effective if what you want to do is alienate your allies it is it is i'm trying to say it more stupid or more petty. i think it's more stupid because they need to be strategic here. they need to reach out to people who are upset. look, obviously, i'm one of them. they need to make their case. and if you insult people on your team they tend to not want to be on your team. i'm sorry, but i've been through a lot of crises with politicians and you don't go after your allies who have what they have legitimate concerns. i mean, i don't i don't know if you were watching vermont your early a bad guy, but that was a bad debate for joe biden and any democrat who says otherwise, was just not watching i was part of a historic audience who tuned in to cnn across many different platforms to see what was truly

historic debate jason corps, it's not all days as a unicorns for you, right? because president biden last night did hit on something which may be an effective argument against president biden for the trump rather former president trump. at least in terms of framing where things are after the supreme court decision, expanding presidential immunity, what president biden actually says, you have to be extra careful now about electing donald trump, because there are no guard rails, isn't there an audience for that? oh, absolutely. but i think it also kinda falls on deaf ears a little bit when you have president biden out there saying that the supreme court can't stop me when i do stuff with regard to the student loan debt repayment. but look, i think in terms of democrats in the house and the senate, and we're down ballot races. i think they should be probably embracing this a little bit in their own campaigns in saying, look, we are the only stop gap to prevent president trump if he wins, if he beats joe biden, where the only thing stopping

him from doing everything he wants to do to the detriment of the u.s not that i agree with that, but that would be the better play, i think for democrats as opposed to going in attacking and trying to replace the nominee because sometimes the grass is not greener on the other side. and who knows who would take biden's place? i can tell you that is an argument that's being made by members of congress running. they may be doing both at the same time, but many of them were saying it makes it all the more important now they say that we elected democratic congress to serve as a bulk work against president trump. you think that's effective? >> i think that's more effective than actually stayed going on the news and putting out statements saying that biden needs to step down. >> i think the reality is at the end of the day come if biden stays in the race three weeks out, two weeks out the base is going to come home to buy i just like the base is going to come home to trump. and so you're really targeting that ten to 15% of the swing voters who were with biden last time and would come back to trump. but biden really has like, he has no more rope to

give. if he makes another gaff, if he has another episode like you did in the debate he's pretty much done and the democrats are going to stop. is there any be careful what you wish for if you're a republican, would it be harder for donald trump to beat another candidate or do you like the disorder if you are republican? absolutely. i think you'll like the disorder. i mean, we've been through this before we work through this in october of 2016 so fall, you talk about july 4th here. what are the other than listening to people in july 4 parades, which i really do hope they go to because they are a wonderful thing. but besides the july 4th, berates what are their grandmother intervening events in the next seven to ten days which you think could crystallize the decision for president biden will notice we're analysts are looking at polling but i'm telling you that the lifetime ines politicians are often ahead of the polls. they really are. they have good antenna and their prime objective is to be reelected okay? political parties they're not a church which welcomes everyone.

they're not a family like robert frost said, write home is the place where when you show up they have to take you in. party, doesn't have to do at parties exist when and that's what those members are going to look at polling. they'll listen to donors and other influencers. but i'm telling you a couple of folks out of the american legion hall on 4 july, they're going to have huge impact on democrats. democrats are still aggressive roots party. and i think that's where biden's greatest either asset or parallel well, is i don't know yet. i mean, i have my suspicions. i think that members are going to hear really negative things about biden as the top of the ticket, but i could be wrong, but they're going to bring all that back to washington in a few days. >> all right. we will see in the next few days, public allergies and osborn great to see you here in person, jason, appreciate. thank you, sir. >> john, stick around because we want to see this because or celtx are back in the news again any who you see that face that is a face of victory it is also a face of wealth. we will talk about how he has become the richest man in the league. plus y, a congressman. woman is

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what it means for donald trump, his legal team now, moving to leverage the decision granting present since immunity from prosecution for official acts to get this to get his conviction in new york thrown out. trump's legal team already filing to seek permission to challenge the guilty verdict. here's how one of trump's attorneys explained it on cnn just last night. >> what we have in new york is a situation where a substantial number of official acts of the presidency, things that we believe are official acts were used as evidence to support the charges in that new york trial. we believe that that corrupts that trial. that that indicates that that jury verdict needs to be overturned. at the very least, we deserve a new trial where those immune acts will not come into evidence as the supreme court dictated today joining us right now is former lead investigator for the january 6 congressional committee, tim havi. >> and michael gerhard, constitutional law professor at unc chapel hill. thank you both

for being here, michael, before we get to the impact of the hush money trial. i want to hear your reaction, michael, to the majority opinion of the high court. you say it goes beyond being just wrong. what do you see here i think this is an example of the court clearly exceeding its authority and creating new law unprecedented without any support in any legitimate source of constitutional meaning. >> the court goes well beyond its authority in trying to suggest new immunity for the precedent or former president's for example, the court talks about how there's a presumptive constitutionality for anything the president says or suggests is official that means for example, if the president were to order seal team six to go kill his political rival, as long as the president claimed, oh, i'm doing this as commander in chief, then that act is constitutionally its presumed

constitutional. that's a whole new development and constitutional law and it's a very disturbing one. there are other mistakes i think the court makes along the way. and so this decision is not i think as the chief justice tries to assure us, nothing new and nothing all that radical instead, i think the chief justice articulates a number of things that under really underscore how radical this decision is ten, you led the investigation into january 6 for the congressional committee that spent months investigating you and i have talked many times since and what you've learned and seen in the evidence that you've collected and you've talked to me about seeing evidence of crimes what now do you see is the way forward for the judge and the case that the special counsel has brought, what could happen or should happen now yeah. >> kate, nice to see you. first of all, thanks for having me. i think what happens next is of

full-on mini-trial in a pretrial proceeding before judge chutkan. so the supreme court has articulated a test that judge chutkan now has to apply. she has to literally go through the allegations in the indictment and consider the evidence that the special counsel intends to present and determine whether or not it should or should not be admissible or bear upon the presence the former president's culpability, given the fact that there is this son of immunity, i think that opens the door for the special counsel to present essentially, his entire case in a federal courtroom in washington soon late this summer or this fall. so all of the evidence that we developed and the additional evidence that the special counsel develop because i do believe they have a bit more than we were able to obtain with the congressional investigation should be presented in a federal courtroom this fall michael, i played with trump's legal team is now very quickly saying they plan to use the supreme court's decision to channel

challenges. guilty verdict in the new york criminal trial. what do you think of that? >> i, think it's a really poor argument. i understand why they're making it they get some politicals sort of positive development by trying to challenge every criminal prosecution or in this case a conviction using this new case as cover but the problem is that the case brought in new york was based on pre presidential misconduct and the supreme court has been very clear ruling unanimously, the case called clinton versus jones, that they a sitting president or former president, has no immunity from a case based on pre presidential misconduct so i think that's a nonstarter insofar as the appeal would be concerned, some of the things we heard his attorney pointing to last night were official white house communications is how it was described, and he was saying even tweets that came from the

president of the president's twitter feed that were put into evidence is part of the new york trial, which raises the question, just how far the tentacles how far reaching, and what do, what is official and not become? obviously is a huge, huge question now, tim, if trump's effort to get the justice department to go along with his false claims of widespread voter fraud is definitely protected and that's it has to be out of the special counsel's federal election subversion case how much is left of the case against trump then do you think yeah that's the question the judge chutkan will have to answer that. >> special counsel will argue, kate, that the vast majority of the conduct was undertaken in his role as a candidate for office, not as president and justice roberts opinion actually explicitly says there are things that they president does that are not official undertaken in his role as a political candidate. this is the argument that mark meadows