probably a pretty cynical way trying to exploit this very popular star but we still see that today. again, like a lot of famous rockstars, pop stars, people take what they want. it's like a rorschach test really it really is always reminds me of the james baldwin statement, right? i love america more than any other country in the world. and that for that reason, i reserve the exclusive right to criticize it. steven haydn. thank you so much. nice to see you thank you. >> thanks for having me welcome to a second hour of laura coates live on this wednesday night, 124 days until the election. >> and right now, joe biden's presidential campaign finds itself on a cliff edge. i mean, one misstep away from a free fall that could end his campaign. president biden in

private now appears to recognize at least some of that sources say that he is told allies and he knows the next couple of days will be so critical for him to prove to voters that he can do the job but in public, there's none of that. he told staff today on the call that he is running and is an erase to the end, his white house press secretary made it clear when she was asked it's president biden considering stepping down? absolutely. absolutely not now, before biden can try to convince the american people that he can do the job. but the debate was just a bad night. he's got to convince his own party that he may have missed the kick that night, but he can still make the field goals that count earlier tonight, he faced democratic governors and top congressional leaders at the white house and the governors, they asked for this meeting to see and hear from the president directly the three of them said the conversation was candid met. they left hopeful governor

tim walz, have the president was fit for office well, we saw it in there today was a guy who was the guy that all of us believed in the first time who could beat donald trump and did be dominant but all the public got to see from the president today. >> well, was this president biden at a medal of honor ceremony reading from a teleprompter he, also collected to radio interviews one of the host told me last hour, which is fine. he was very lucid and he was answering quickly. now, the president often says, watch me when he's asked about his age the problem tonight, it seems to be that he is not offering the public that immediate chance to really watch him and that has everyone from party members to the all-important donors to the extraordinarily important voters perhaps worried new tonight, we're told several democratic lawmakers told hakeem jeffries that he needs to go tell biden to drop out so

far, two members of congress have now openly called for biden to quit the race and reporting suggests the number who feel that way, but i haven't actually voiced it yet, is much, much higher which of course is having sort of frustrating for voters who just want a straight answer, an opinion from their representatives. how do you feel in public and in front of the camera? and the polls are trending in the wrong direction in a minute, harry entin will walk us through new data on that in just a sack and then then there's the money donors appear fed up. the co-founder of netflix, reed hastings says, biden has got to go and perhaps he's not alone the new york times reporter who broke that story will be my guest as well. so to recap tonight, biden facing signs that he losing support from voters and donors and some of the elected leaders in this country and his own party. arguably three groups at any candidate needs desperately in order to win an election, 124 days out. and it really, it

begs the question, how does joe biden fix this? and caddie course, correct. in time for insight tonight, we turn now to chris whipple and award winning author who covered joe biden in the book, the fight of his life. inside joe biden's white house. chris, good to see you again. a lot has taken place over the last week. i mean, the times reported that biden quote, understands that he may not be able to salvage his candidacy unquote, if he can't convince voters. so what does that tell you about where his mindset is? >> well, color may skeptical about that report. i think it's quite possible that biden might have said the first part of what was reported, namely that he has to do well this week but i can tell you that contrary to the drumbeat of reporting suggesting that joe biden is about to drop out he's not going anywhere, at least as of now i'm thursday

night, there was consternation within the family there was finger-pointing at the debate prep team but they are really all in with joe biden, ongoing forward. and i'm not even aware that there has been a discussion of dropping out of the race, much less joe biden somehow coming to grips with that fact it's his call. >> he's got the delegates. we've had primaries. he is the presumptive nominee off, but the confetti is fall on the shoulders in his head well, we are learning tonight that several lawmakers on a leadership call, we're telling minority leader hakeem jeffries that he should tell biden to leave the race. and we also know that hollywood and some megadonors are also speaking out to any of these figures. move the needle now, not, not, not yet. in any case, look, this is not 1974 where barry goldwater is going to lead a delegation of senior senators and tap joe biden on the

shoulder to step aside, at least not yet. i think that's we would really need to see a critical mass for that to happen. and frankly all of this just gets joe biden's backup. i mean, the biden and his family have always felt that he's been underestimated time after time after time. this kind of thing thing just makes them want to prove what's more that joe biden is a winner and that he'll prove them wrong look, i am a subscriber to the notion of underestimate me. >> it'll be fun. but look, i'm not trying to the present united states and so you've got people who are looking at this idea. and i do wonder whether we'll be motivating or demoralizing in the end. and the voters will make that call. but we're also hearing from the east wing tonight. the firstly is communication director telling cnn that the president has plenty of political and policy advisors. that's never been jill's role.

do you think that she would be sitting on the sideline i had time, i guess i would imagine as his life partner. and how much he has respected her and has respect for her. that it would be her who could be as influential as his own voice yeah, look hats off to jill biden, wanting to be modest about this. but the reality is that she is his most important and influential adviser, period that's just simply a fact. and frankly, if joe biden where to drop out, it would it would really be the result of some kind of family intervention led by jill and perhaps a hunter biden and foul and some influential friends like his old friend ted kaufman, mcdonald on perhaps. but there's just no sign that they are anywhere near that kind of decision as i say, both the family and the inner circle, i believe are all on board. and there isn't at this point, no

plan b. i mean, joe biden intends to be the nominee well, what do you make? i know we have to go, but what do you make of that reported that we've heard earlier this evening that he is keeping vice president kamala harris close to him and she's attending various meetings, including the governor's meeting today to show and demonstrate that he is with her. there seems to be an intimation that is because if he were to pass the baton it would elevate her almost immediately. is that just because she's the vice president and his running mate well, i don't know about that. >> i don't know that he's trying to send a signal that he's supporting copula in the event that he should step aside but look i don't think there's a plan b, but if there were i think that it would have to be kamala harris. i mean, does anybody want to seriously suggest taking the nomination away from the first black vice president in the history of the united states how would that play with the democratic base? i think it would be a suicide mission chris webb ball. thank

you so much for joining good to be with you polls, polls. polls, one of the barometers that made tip the scale of whether president biden steps aside. so let's go to cnn's harry entin at the magic wall for the very latest number is harry good to see you? what are you seeing in the latest polls? yeah. i think good for the incumbent president joe biden, as i note here, biden's awful polling week and there's a reason why i use that descriptor. i don't use it loosely. take a look here. biden versus trump margin. we've got a bunch of paul's that have come out post-debate. muslim are not good news for joe biden. they are very good news for donald trump former president united states. look at this, uh, six point lead in the new york times, sienna college poll for donald trump, a six-point lean the wall street journal poll for donald trump are cnn ssrs, paul another six point lead for donald trump. the only good paul, for joe biden and i use good in quotations is a tie and the hipsters, ipsos reuters but

when you average it all up, you have all of these paul's what do you see right now post debate between john, donald trump and joe biden, it's donald trump up by three points. that is a jump from where we were pre-debate, where trump was up by just a point. but i honestly think that comparison pre and post debate loses a big part of the picture. the idea that donald trump is ahead by any percentage points is amazing, is astounding if you go back through history because four years ago at this point, joe biden had a lead of nine points. we've literally had a 12th switcheroo and a matter of four years at this particular point, donald trump is polling better than he has as at any point in either the 2016 2020, or 2024 campaign, these numbers, if you've shown them to be four years ago, i simply put, would not have believed them i'm so i'm so glad you put that up there, that plus nine points because you have to wonder what happened to the six and over the, over the course before the debate even happened, correct?

>> what the voters are thinking about and is the age question inescapable problem for the biden campaign? i mean, in my opinion, it's you know, it's a big problem. age is a huge problem for joe biden. look at this. biden is too old to be an effective president. look at this number 74% of the electorate post-debate i don't know how you escape a number like that. i should note that that is up from where we were pre debate when it was 69%, but 69% is still pretty large. compare that to four years ago when it was just 36% at this point, this dumb, this number has more than doubled over a four-year span. this is a big reason why joe biden is behind at this point. and i should note only 42% of voters say that donald trump is 12. and one little last thing for you, laura, you have these numbers here. we showed you how different from where we were four years ago at this point. i want to put this in a little bit. of historic context for you. who lead in early july

presidential polls right now, and has donald trump, you go back 2020, 2016, 2012, 2008, you have to go all the way back to 2000 bark to walk all the way to this side of the screen to find a time in which a democratic nominee was not ahead in the polls at this particular point donald trump is not just in a good position for republican. he, for himself, he's in a good position for a republican. the best position since 2004, there are people who are going to vote in this election, weren't alive to see a republican as in a stronger position at this point in the cycle, is donald trump? >> that's fascinating. harry anton, thank you so much for bringing that perspective yoda versus jabba the hutt well, that's the analogy that some donors are latching onto as they tried to keep money flowing to the biden campaign. according to the wall street journal, some donors see biden as the yoda frail, yet wise and influential and trump as a

gluttonous and powerful gangster but sources suggest the forest is not on biden side, right now. the new york times, teddy slipher reports big donors are turning on biden quietly. you know what he joins me now, don't worry, i won't ask you i mean analogies for star wars if you want i make you know, i mean ask many questions i could, but i won't. teddy netflix co-founder, was calling for biden to step aside and a top hollywood producer is proposing, quote, a dem vargo dunbar go no checks written no act blue links clicked for anyone until there's a change at the top of the ticket. this is just two weeks by the way, after that star-studded fundraiser. how bad is this that this is happening now? >> so immediately after the debate, let's say friday, saturday, and sunday it was hard to find a democratic donor who is not overcome with anxiety. what's happening now over the last 48 hours based on my calls and my colleagues calls to major donors is people

are beginning to act on that diety. we're seeing things like boycotts. we're seeing things like promises to hold money aside for a replacement candidate donors are acting on this thing. zaidi and donors also speaking on the record reed hastings who just a year ago gave $100,000 and support. joe biden, 2024, him in his wife have given i've been over $20 million. democrats over the last five years. he's coming out and saying that joe biden should not be the nominee. he didn't have to say that. people will couple of days ago were scared. we'll move wrote that donors were quietly feeling this way that's so 24 hours ago. now, people feel empowered and this is just the first of first getting started i think it's very possible by the end of the week or when after this debate, after the interview that joe biden does that we might see most major donors speaking up one way or the other. so what about grassroots? don't is that obviously the manama you just articulated can far surpass what any individual person, the average person could ever give

is it could it balance out? are these donors than enough to put their thumb on the scale to influence not only biden, but the pressure campaign against him that's a good point. >> i mean, i think lots of major donors right now are unsure of their own powers be partly because there are tons of small donors who see joe biden getting attacked and this age partisanship. they rally to the flag and the biden campaign has posted some of its best fundraising days and the entire race on some of the worst days of the entire campaign for joe biden. that's not a coincidence. and then the fact that all these small donors are coming to beat up trump and boost up their guy makes all these major the donors, billionaires, and people who are so used to being kings in the universe question, like, can we even do anything, right? and that's it pretty unusual position for these pretty arrogant people. i'll say to be in where they're, they're looking for jill biden cell phone number, just like anyone else's and look, this is not a

vote of joe biden's donors. this is a dictatorship where joe biden and jill biting into the side to do whatever they want and whether or not there's pressure from these major donors it's interesting and i think it sets the context that joe biden is making this decision under within but they don't really have that much control. and that leaves wealthy donors to threatened boycotts. we're going to set aside money for kamala harris the biden breast says, who cares, this is up to him. >> get to follow the money that's the symptom would say the oversize role of money in politics, but it does do a lot of talking and you're right to describe it tonight. thank you so much teddy cipher, for your time. well, if president biden stays on the ticket, could it keep democrats from winning the house? one democratic candidate running in colorado says yes adam frisch joins me next, plus cnn learning a potential succession plan may very well

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white house. and this is cnn president biden getting a much-needed boost from democratic governors during a meeting at the white house tonight president joe biden is in it to win it. and all of us said we pledged our support to him because the stakes could not be higher but fears are mounting that a ticket led by biden could cost the party the white house, and perhaps a chance at controlling congress one democratic lawmaker told cnn candidates running and competitive districts are bracing and fearing for the worst, quote, they are saying they are going to lose if they have to run with joe biden for joining me now, adam fresh, democratic congressional candidate from colorado's third district. >> and he has publicly called for president then biden to withdraw from the race adam, thank you so much for joining me this evening. you just heard some of the governor's coming out after meeting with president biden tonight and

they were enthusiastic and their support. they said they understand that this is all about winning what is your response well, if it's about winning, we need to find a new candidate listen, i'm not a political pundit, but i have driven 40, 57,000 miles over the past couple of years in the boots on the ground democrats, independents, republicans, no full well that what these 27 polls were saying. >> and unfortunately the president is not fit to serve and he's not gonna be able to win. i'm not sure when i spoke out publicly about this, whether it's good for my campaign, but it's certainly good for the nation and that's what i'm focused on. it is really bad that not only republicans and democrats are saying one thing publicly in a different thing privately. and that is why so many people are frustrated with both parties. and i'm trying to run based on the country, not a party, and has really, really disappointing to see what's happened over the past couple of weeks you're right voters to refresh rated for years about the idea of what people

said in private versus in public. and that can sour voters about participating overall and democracy and god knows, having the couch as a third-party candidate. eight segments to our entire democracy. but i wonder about the down-ballot races like yourselves, are you really concerned about other democratic races of people aligned with biden or do you think that voters are getting distinguish the nuance between those who might be in congress and those who would be in the oval office no. >> thanks for asking that question, laura, listen first. first, starting off running against lauren boebert over two years ago. it's been a story about focusing on team colorado's third district, not team red or team blue or team democrat team republican i am out there trying to talk about securing the border, trying to get inflation under control, and tried to figure out how to get more mental health care in rural parts of america and so i'm not really that focused on who's on the ticket on the presidential, whether it's republican or democrat, i'm just focusing on convincing

people that i'm the best person to be in the house of representatives, rep presenting them and their families in the businesses. >> i do wonder about the clock. obviously, time is not on any one side when you think about the overall ark of one's life. however, there is a real clock, a political one, right now, if biden decides to step aside it could create some chaos of a contested convention that could, on the one hand, be a catalysts, people leading in all the more and hearing the speeches, hearing galvanizing messaging as well. on the other hand, it could show some uncertainty, which is not what either party it really wants going into a convention or an election do you have concerns that this fallout and continued conversation about that debate performance is creating chaos among voters, even if race is like yourself yeah, this is what i'm hearing. again from democrats independents, republicans as i drive around southern and western colorado, and it's why i said two years ago that i was i was with a 75%

of the people in the country that do not want to rematch the republicans went through an open competitive primary. the democratic party should have done it in itself and now it's coming back to bite them and there's still time to figure out how to have a different candidate. i'm not going to get into horse racing in different levels of that conversation. i'll leave that to the pundits. i can just tell people that the current president, with all due respect, needs to step down from the race and try to figure out how this next-generation of candidates can can rise. and that's what we want to focus on. there's a lot of exciting things out there. listen, i would love both candidates that are running for president of the major parties to go to the convention and step aside. i know that's not going to happen with one. we need to figure out what to do on the democratic side before the convention for sure. and that's why i've asked president biden yesterday with a heavy heart that he needs step down. >> democrats are sometimes accused by their own voters and eating their own there is a circle, circular firing squad mentioned by former president obama during the 20, i think 2020 debate process and beyond.

and there's a concern that democrats often look for the so-called political, moral high ground over what might be in their own party's best interest compared to republicans. i do wonder if there is an unfair focus on 90 minutes versus 33.5 years of governance or do you think that's the absolute appropriate thing to consider given the timing of another four years prospectively laura, this shoe is this only in politics is stating the obvious so hard to do i just don't get it. i mean, this was not a one off night. it was obviously a horrible night, but there's a reason i guess the president did not want to go up for what is considered a softball interview on the super bowl ball and has duct most a lot of press conferences compared to the last presidents. again, this is the punditry conversation. i'm just relaying back that this is not a one-off thing. it's obvious that the president with all due respect is not ready to be able

to serve another four years and as well, he can't win and we need to figure out from our deep bench of a wide variety of personalities and perspectives to get out there. i'm not going to get involved and who that is. i'm not really focused on that. i'm very excited after this last conversation i've been having over the past de and a half with a lot of viewers out there to get back in the pickup truck and start talking again to the pueblos steel workers and the people that are producing energy in the western slope of colorado. and it's party it's truly time to put party away in both sides. and i wish more people did that running for congress the polls that matter, the voters themselves. >> thank you. adam frisch happy 4th of july. laura thank you president biden is publicly saying that he is going to stay in this race but cnn is learning a succession plan may be taken some shape if he steps get the details for you next

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242424 i'm melissa bell in paris, and this is cnn well, the ground is rumbling beneath the biden white house, but while the president is adamant that he is not leaving this race, see i had learning tonight that biden is keeping vice president kamala harris pretty close? several party officials and advisers say a succession plan is starting to take shape. and if biden steps aside, he will immediately throw his support behind harris and release his democratic delegates. it top campaign adviser saying of biden, quote, keys with her let's break this all down now with meghan hayes, former specialist. and did president biden. and so if he announced in a cnn opinion contributor and former house

gop investigative committee, council, we begin with you tonight. meghan, on this, are you concerned that these conversations or even taking place than they really are, or is he keeping her close because she's the vice president. i think she's keeping her clothes because she's a vice president and of course he's with her. he chose her to run as his running mate and they successfully beat to beat donald trump in 2020. so of course there's a succession plan. he will get reelected and then she can run and he will support her and four more years like this is not i don't understand why this is a surprise to anyone. i do think that but people don't see behind the scenes. it's the vice presidents always been around. she's always been part of our part of their administration, excuse me, my former former boss and so i just think i think that people are just reading into the tea leaves a little too much here. and i think that people just need to give him space. let him do his interview on friday and let the chips fall where they may and just let him decide what he's gonna do. but he's making it very clear there and she's also been making it very clear that she is supportive of him. >> is this much ado about nothing. it doesn't feel like that performance is that shakespearean, nothing listen tomorrow is our 248th birthday.

i see by your alphabet a very serious moment i'm going to take the president at his word that he's running again, they put out a statement that's what they've said. i believe him, but i think to answer your question, this is not much ado about nothing. we in the fourth estate have a duty to question the fitness of the president after a performance like that. however we also have a duty to question the fitness of the other candidate running. and i'm concerned and i've been frankly upset over the last number of days because i feel like it's a pile on to president biden. it's good to question him, but we're not questioning donald trump in his fitness. these epstein files as something we in the media have got to cover i know we're busy with other things talking about naps and things like that. but the reality is donald trump has a moral character problem. he's a convicted felon. the supreme court has gone rogue. our article three branch out of control. the congress has been out of control and now the

executive is in question. were in a crisis as we head into our 248 birthday tomorrow. and i think this is a very serious moment. well, many would look at this, not as a pylon, but as a mountain of concern that if there is a chance for the reasons you speak about, if the opponent is donald trump as he is going to be the republican nominee then one must climb and overcome that mountain to make sure he does not become a president. again, is it piling on anything that people are piling on, i think to your point, the criticism is fair, but i think also the president sense. since thursday night has gone out every day and ben in front of the press and done an incredible job fighting for the american people and showing the people that he is capable of doing this job. i think i understand the criticism. it's totally fair to do that, but also, he needs to show the voters that he is capable of having that job. he doesn't need to show the chattering class that he is capable. laura, why i agree with that? the other guy has to show that

he's deserving of the office and sitting there and hurling names and tweeting ungodly things. and just again, i'm going back to the epstein files. i'm not going to talk about i'm on tv because they're distressing, but we've got to take seriously these type of allegations against someone that wants to hold this office january 6 has happened indictments have happened convictions have happened donald trump is not morally fit to be president, so we ought to be on that every day and we ought to be having questions of his campaign staff every day about what is going on with your candidate. and we're not doing that. that's why i feel it's piling on. well, walking into and gum is possible. you're certainly right and there are also a number of top democrats, sophia, who are calling for a kind of i guess you'd call it a speeded up many primary and an open convention perhaps i want you both to listen to what they're saying i do think we need to have an open democratic process. if joe biden is not the nominee, and i do think vice president harris would be a very, very top contender in that process. >> we need to have the kind of

competition and open process rather than some backroom deal to get us the best possible candidate that process is already in place to make it a minute primary. and i would support that absolutely. >> meghan, are there risks of having a kind of mini primary because some would question that sort of the backroom deal. okay. i voted for one person you've got delegates. my handing somebody else well, the problem there is that the vice president's name is on those ballots. >> and so they also voted for her. she also was entitled to the financial fruits of the labor that they've raised all this money together. so i just i mean, i don't actually know what the rules are, what the convention, et cetera, but i just think that we have to take she has a higher name id. she's beating him in some of the polls that early polls that have come out, she had the financial advantage here. and so i'm not sure that doing up split primary are having that kind of conversation is really what the party needs. the party needs to focus on beating donald trump and they need to let the president decide because right now he is not stepping aside. so this is like all premature conversations and

kind of just eating up airtime that we should be focused on how they're going to be donald trump well, i think i've been the politics of a hypothetical become relevant when the voters are mistrustful of the fact that is really a hypothetical. and that's the investigation of every prudent journalists to figure out what is really being told and what it means. i want to play for both of you and add that's made by a super pac for kamala harris back in 2019. and by the way, according to politicos, jonathan martin, it seems to be floating around some democratic circles. now, listen i'm asking you a very direct question, yes or no i don't think i'm not remembering i do want you to be on. >> i'm not able to be rushed. this fast. it makes me nervous. >> kamala harris exposes republicans. she makes them nervous and leaves them unable to defend their lives and corruption. she'll do the same to donald trump of course,

meghan's point, she was on the bow when they're voting as well for the biden harris ticket. >> and you have written about this as well, and the idea of her being a force to be reckoned with if she should elevate to that particular role. but as a vice presidential candidate, she already these, these discussions are already happening. remember nikki haley is saying a vote for biden is a vote for nikki kamala harris as well. what do you make of this sort of thing floating around even now, i think the vice president has been clear, she is the vice president. she's backing her running mate joe biden. she's been firm and loyal look, obviously, i believe what jim clyburn said, you cannot go around the first african american woman vice president and just skip over her. if he steps site, i think she's the person and she's the one we will say thank you to you, both. the communists and definitely will continue. next. the other big case for fulton county de a finding willis and it's running into just as many problems as the one against donald trump and his co-defendants young thugs, gang, trial on pause after a series of delays and the

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any loving dad talking about his son especially one who feels partly to blame for getting them into trouble. >> asieh to indictment is bogus because i taught my soul and loyalty instead of friendship. this is why he's going through this because he was loyal to people jeffrey lamar williams has taken that idea of loyalty and turned it into a worldwide image as the artist's young thought, a grammy award winning rapper promotes his ysl brand. >> young slime life prosecutors alleged the term is euphemism for a life filled with street crime young thugs, dad claims it's a gangster rap gimmick. and the reason fulton county de a fani willis wants to make an example out of him he recalls with prosecutors have used testimony from co-defendants already tried for their crimes, as well as rap lyrics from young thugs own songs as purported evidence. the violent crime times we're committed at the rapper's behest. he denied

the charges. >> it is our allegation that they operated as a criminal street gang and commence to do havoc in our community. >> willis and her team are juggling a lot, including prosecuting donald trump in his separate racketeering case in the same courthouse, just five floors above. why do you think the de is trying to use jeffrey williams as an example if he didn't have a name who wouldn't be having this conversation, speaking to us from his podcast studio, williams senior said his son is no gangster or crime boss shot color involved in a street war as alleged by investigators, he insists his sons only wrongdoing was hanging with the wrong crowd. is there any merit to this indictment? was there ever a war going on between young dog and why offend lucy? were you ever targeted? was your safety ever at risk? >> iran? by myself, every day. i go to i go to every part of the town everyday. i can go anywhere in this sitting by

myself every day, young thugs trial is already the longest in georgia history. the jury selection process alone took nearly ten months. the rico case has been unwieldy, featuring no shortage so bizarre moments, a codefendant accused of a hand-to-hand drug exchange in the courtroom. another co-defendants stabbed multiple times inside the county jail. and earlier this month, a secret meeting with the prosecutors, the judge, and a key witness without any of the defense attorneys. that's attorney-client privilege, which led to the case being paused indefinitely while motions are heard on the judge's possible recusal. the president of the georgia association of criminal defense lawyer says the meeting itself is grounds for a mistrial. ashley merchant represents young thugs. attorney brian still in the matter has gone off the tracks. there's too many charges. there's too many defendants being charged. to many witnesses being called. and obviously the state has a right to prove their case, but they also have to ensure that there's due process. the case

has dragged on for months. >> that's a major concern to some defense attorneys who spoke to cnn, who wonder if da willis is miss applying the rico statute fulton county district attorney's office told cnn, they can't comment on the case at this time, but former fulton county prosecutor, tanya miller says, casting a wide net with a rico charge was the right move it allows you to get at crimes that perhaps were committed in the past, right? >> even if someone has already been convicted of murder extortion yeah. they're alleging that they all happened at the behest of your son. >> what my son, not a convicted felon. >> and as any loving father would, he hopes for his son's case. it stays that way. millions across the country have followed this case closely. hundreds of thousands of whom have tuned in to watch this case live to see all the twists and turns currently, a superior court judge here in fulton county has been assigned to review whether or not judge glenn ville will be allowed to stay on this case? if he is recused, that would be a

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and the democratic party, this following the debate that happened just last thursday, and they're deriving the performance of the president united states should biden step aside, should he remain on the ballot? president biden is our president. he will be our nominee and he will be our president in 2025 well, i love that you have very, a lot of confidence about this issue and i do wonder briana, from your perspective when you hear this and think about not just this particular race, but if there is a lack of enthusiasm at all in number of issues, you have a concern about voters wanting to turn out an actually vote and i know one of the reasons you all have been so instructive about getting people motivated is about turning to social justice movements and why they've been so important. >> and i have to commend the wm bpa for doing that. these set past at least few years. this time, it's about reproductive rights. why did you choose this message at this moment?

>> we're athletes in a woman's league. we play in 12 different states across the country. so we know it's such an important issue. we know our rights change depending which state we're playing in which said you're in. we already know that for the state's we currently play in have either totally banned or restricted heavily restricted abortion access so he went on to make the voters know the fans know that our bodies are on the ballot this fall. >> this is the first presidential election. stacey, where roe v. wade has been overturned do you think that it's still going to motivate voters to get out knowing that supreme court justices aren't really on the ballot in terms of the consideration of who there'll be appointed will people really still be motivated in spite of roe v. wade no longer being the law of the land in the last presidential election, we had a candidate, joe biden, who stood up for women's rights, believed that women should be protected at all costs. we had a president who was sitting at the time who had put in place three supreme court justices and those three justices helped

overturn roe v. wade. so it is not a the hypothetical that reproductive freedom that a woman's right to control her bodies on the ballot. we have seen it happen. we saw the last time that trump was in the white house. he stripped women of their bodily autonomy. and because of his decisions, women in 21 states cannot make decisions about their reproductive choice. we know that if he is reinstalled in the white house, he intends to strip let's of access to ivf, access to contraception. and this is not hyperbole, it's what he said. and so it is absolutely on the ballot because the president of the united states signs those bills that will take away our rights, appoints those judges that will deny us our rights. but we can also have an opportunity to put in place a president who is protected those it's rights expanded access to contraception, expanded access to reproductive choice, and believes that a woman's right to choose is inviolable. so it's not only on the ballot, it's going to be on the hearts and minds of every woman casting a ballot. and if we do our work led by the women of the wnba, we will get the job done and we will make certain

that we can protect our right to choose let me turn to you on this issue, briana, because you know, many people would shy away as either a league or as an entity in neutral players as well, would want to extend a ten foot pole away from politics. they don't want to be rolling in the mud are being perceived as such. and yet the wnba and the wnba pa has been very resolved to lean into matters of such consequence. why have you all chosen to do that we believe their reproductive rights and human rights. >> this doesn't seem like a political issue to us. this was just in human and shoot us. we want we want to advocate for people to have rights over their bodily autonomy. i mean, we're asking it's in a women's league, these impacts impact us so much and we just see it as a human's issue. it's not even political for us, it's just speaking out for human rights briana, the whole point of democracy really is to get people to participate in their own destiny, to have a say, and this is a time when you've used your platform in a variety of ways to shine

spotlights on various issues. >> and there's also a huge spotlight right now on your league, at least since the entrance and the arrival of players like caitlin clark and your own teammate angel reese do you have any strong feelings with how people have been perceiving this rivalry and the impact the bit on your sport and league. >> i think for me, just watch them. i see two competitive players just want to go out there and win and do it all for their team. i think a lot of people have tried to pit them against each other and say and compare them. but i really did comparison is the thief of joy. i mean, these kids just come out of college. they both cross this stage a couple of months ago and now they're excelling. i think they're really taken advantage of the moment that momentum and the movement. and i think they're just excelling and really bringing a lot of eyes and fans for a league. and i'm really excited to see how their career progresses. >> i'm gonna write this down comparison is the thief of joy, and i'm going to staple it and tape it everywhere. i find that that's maybe the thing i would say to everyone from now on. i'm so glad that you're both here and you're using the platform in a way to inspire people to engage and

participate and be the change they want to see. and again, that t-shirt now, i want to come in comparison is the thief of joy stacey abrams brad turner. thank you so much. thank you. thank you and thank you for watching our coverage continues tonight on 360 democratic governors just left a meeting with the president at the white house and now voice their support for him and his fitness for office even as new cnn reporting from the highest levels of the administration indicates that series previous doubt among some is setting in about his candidacy. >> also tonight in our ongoing series of 53%, how president biden's debate performance affected undecided women in the swing state of georgia plus a whistleblowers new allegation that boeing put parts painted red. that means bad onto