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world's news no, me just coming into us from jamaica where hurricane beryl is hammering the island nation with heavy rain, sustained winds of about 130 miles per hour to make us prime minister is cautious, but remained optimistic, said the worst that could have happened so far. has, not happened. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, breaking news, biden's fight for survival. >> the president right now, meeting with democratic governors inside the white house as a second democrat now calls for biden to step aside the heels of last week's debate, plus biden one-on-one. i'll speak with a radio host just spoke to the president. what de biden say about the debate we have the audio and larry saboteur, one of the nation's most trusted political voices, just downgrading two he states for biden which states, and why.

let's go out good evening, america hill in for erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking he was president biden, fighting for his political life. at this moment, he is now meeting with more than 20 democratic governors, many of whom demanded the meeting. after not hearing from him in the wake of the debate. and there's a lot riding on this meeting. the president scrambling to shore up support as more members of his own party that openly question whether he is fit to serve other four years, a second house democrat tonight calling on biden to step aside congressmen role, ghraieb a lot of gravida of arizona saying, quote, what he needs to do is shoulder the responsibility for keeping that seat and part of that responsibility is to get out of the race and just moments ago, reed hastings, the co-founder of netflix, one of the biggest donors to the democratic party, telling the new york times, biden needs to step aside to allow a vigorous democratic leader to beat trump and keep us safe and prosperous all of this as a sources telling cnn that in private, president biden has

acknowledged these next few days are crucial to his campaign. those next few days include his first sit-down interview since the debate at a rally in wisconsin, will that though be enough, former president obama is reportedly telling allies in private that biden's path to realize flexion has grown more challenging. the white house, rejecting that idea, the press secretary, once again today facing a barrage of questions about the campaign the president's health and the presidents latest excuse for why he struggled at that debate, jet lag, though it's important to note, he arrived at camp david for his prep nearly a week before the debate you didn't mention probable the jet lag, the foreign trips. so i think you can understand why it was a little bit puzzling to hear the president mentioning that as his explanation for the first time last night, i'm just yeah. can you clarify whether when you took the podium yesterday, did you not know that i wouldn't say that is my bad. that is part of that as part of definitely part of the

explanation of what had occurred mj lee is outfront live from outside the white house, md. >> you also have some new reporting. now about these growing doubts within biden's own administration in terms of being able to hang on. what are you hearing? yeah. we'll erica all day long that we've seen president biden, his white house, his campaign all digging into say, the president is the nominee. he is going to keep running. he's not going anywhere. and is in this until the end. but the reality right now is that even at the highest it's levels of the president's own administration. there is some serious doubt that is starting to set in on the question of whether he can ride this one out. one senior official that i spoke with so that they see the current trend of the erosion of support within democrats as waves crashing into the shore they went on to say, first it's the donors and then it's elected officials. now, it's going to be pulling it, just breaks down the resistance. there's get started small and

is getting bigger and bigger. and we're clearly seeing that demonstrated in the recent days this official was also saying the president is clearly going to need some time in the coming days to reconcile the push and pull that he is going to feel as he speaks to some people who are clearly going to encourage them to keep digging in and other we're going to say, look, it's time for you to get out for the good of the party we are learning. as you said, that in private, he has acknowledged that he knows that the next stretch of days are going to be so critical for whether he is able to save his campaign and ally who spoke with the president yesterday directly, so that the president was clear-eyed about what the scenario would look like if he determined that he wasn't able to turn this ship around. so as you noted, the president is now just starting his meeting with a group of democratic the governors, of course, some of them are really looking to just directly here from the president on how he's doing and also what the path forward

is. and we'll see as some of these government there's come out once that meeting ends, whether any of them are going to be reassured and convince that the president really can write this one out. yeah it is it's fascinating how quickly everything seems to be shifting and changing. mj. i know you're staying on top of it for us and will continue to check in with you. thank you. out front. now, democratic congressman gerry connolly of virginia, sir, good to have you with us tonight. you just heard i'm sure mj is new reporting great to have you in addition, one democratic lawmakers, just telling cnn quote, it's over. we're just waiting for the announcement do you agree that it is in fact, over and it's time for the president to step aside. >> no but i do believe the white house has a shrinking window in which to turn this around if it can be turned around. and they've got to do two things and do it very quickly. one is they've got a massively in improve their outreach to stakeholders donors

governors, elected officials, members of congress delegates to the convention they've got to really reach out at senior levels of the white house, not campaign, talking points. and a two-way dialogue, a dialogue is two-way communication, not one way communication. they need to do that quickly and broadly. and secondly, they got get joe biden out to basically prove he's got it that was a really bad night, but it doesn't characterize him or his behavior or his ability to carry on. and that means really getting public and exposing itself in very substantial ways. and he's got the nato summit next week there'll be opportunities for interaction with the public and with those leaders of other countries and with the media. he's planning a press conference that's good, but he's got to really step up that game and disprove what is setting in, which is the perception that he no longer

has it but certain to that point, right on the second point that he needs to be out there. we are our six days now. pass this debate it is surprising to many people. i have certainly been told us by a number of folks that there has not been more of an effort to put the president out. and the message that that sends if he's not being put out, what is the reason? is it? because there's concern that he can't handle those moments. is that the message that is being sent perhaps with the best of intentions. >> i don't know. i believe that senior white house officials are unwittingly contributing exactly as you suggest to the perception that he's not out there because he can't be i don't i hope that's not true. and i want to sort of take a pause here. i think democrats should make decisions, not in haste and panic, but with calm calculus and with lots of input from the white house and lots of reflection we need that kind of

family dialogue. we need that family therapy. but we needed quickly because time is running out. we don't have a lot of time here to make some really critical decisions. and ultimately that decision rests with the present who is 3,900 pledged delegates to the national convention. you talk about the need for a conversation. you all so noted in your first answer, the one-way dialogue we're hearing a lot of one-way dialogue from people who are saying, okay, it's time for the president to step aside one of the most recent reed hastings, co-founder of netflix, one of the biggest donors to the democratic party. just telling the new york times tonight, biden needs to step aside and he is not the first big donor to sound the alarm. i wonder the polling, not great perhaps, but when it comes to money, that's another thing. can the campaign continued to ignore these very public, please, especially from their donors? >> everybody's opinion has to be factored in. let me just say, this is a consequential

president he passed more legislation than any president since lyndon johnson. he took us out of the pandemic he tried to right the ship of state after the disaster of donald trump he deserves respect and dignity and not drive-by shootings calling for him to step aside. i don't think that's the way to treat joe biden and i know for sure, knowing the man, it's not the way to get him to reflect the way you want them to reflect on what happened last week to that point, then there have been more public calls, as i noted, two now, house democrats have called publicly for the president to step aside. what are the conversations? privately about how best to address this, to have that family conversation that you mentioned? >> as. you might imagine, i think there are a lot pockets of condensation all over the place. i do think that there is a real danger if the white house doesn't step up its game

in communication with the house of representatives there are lots of people who are processing what happened but if they're left to their own without any real serious input from senior members of the white house they're going to make a decision based on what they think they know, what they've been given what they perceive, and what they think is in the best interests of their constituency in their own future. congressman gerry connolly of virginia, really appreciate taking the time to join us tonight. so thank you my pleasure, archon, thank you. i'll front now, former democratic congressman max rows of new york and david urban, former senior adviser to the trump campaign and good to have you both here congressman, i know you've had concerns about president biden where do you stand tonight? >> do you believe it's time for the president to step aside if the precedent is in serious irreversible cognitive decline. absolutely if he is not, i think he still stands as the best person to beat donald trump. now, it is the

responsibility of the white house as well as the president's campaign to vary obviously and clearly and forcefully show the american people that the president is not in fact in cognitive decline. unfortunately, what i feel like they are not understanding the president's staff or his campaign. is that every day that they don't do something clearly obvious and repeated over and over and over again. it looks like they're lying or hiding something and that's what really has it's to change and what will happen next week. i think congressman connolly pointed to this is you're going to see some serious activity from the house. most especially the front liners. who are those sitting democrats in very difficult seats? there's potential for a letter to come out. there's potential for more individuals to stand up and they don't care about anything rightfully so other than keeping their seat and

right now, the facts and the stats could point to them having to do something like that. unless the president's campaign markedly shifts which in many ways goes back to our own mj. lee is reporting that these next few days really are consequential for the resonant david, you don't think joe biden is going anywhere? why lesson. >> i don't do this point, erica let's congressman rose has it exactly right the democrats in the frontline, those front-line house races are going to be the people that and reed hastings against david mccormick those are the people are going to squeal. but, but right now it appears that joe biden is surrounded by praetorian guard of his family, his wife, who's on the cover of vogue magazine with the let them eat cake moment appears not to be concerned about her husband's well-being or the country's well-being for that matter and letting the president continue on in this state, and erica, there's been

exhaustive reporting now all of a sudden just popped up for the new york times and other places that the president that people have had concerns about the president for quite some time. let's win the president turned down a softball interview for the super bowl, right? everybody does that it's a softball and probably huge crowd people were questioned even then. well, maybe he's not up to it, right? maybe he's not up to it. so as long as his family's taken advice from hunter and joe biden joe bloggs not going anywhere. and interestingly, if the democrats have congressman rows and others think that donald trump is an existential threat to democracy. they're not going to just wait for joe biden to make a decision about whether he's going to stay. they're going to go to the white house, are going to pound on the door. they're going to say get in the car, we're done with you if you believe you can't have it both ways. if you believe donald trump is the end of the world, then you want your best candidate for, you can't say, well, we don't want to. joe biden, a nice guy and he's done some good things and what might

let him ride off into the sunset? you go there, you say pack your bags and you're gone. you either want to win or you don't want to win. >> in terms of what could potentially be next, there is new cnn reporting tonight that president biden is keeping the vice president close. congressman, he wants to send this message that he is with her highlighting their relationship as a possible succession plan is being developed. if she steps aside if he steps aside rather should the vice president automatically moved to the top of the ticket? >> yeah, that's most likely the way it should go. i think it opening convention is something that we might want to avoid and also i think that it would send a very clear and wrong message you just skip over the vice president in that regard. but i do want to go back to this idea that our friend just just put out there. that's somehow it's joe biden or bust for the democrats donald trump is such indeed, he just said it in existential

threat to all the values that we hold dear. and let's not forget during that debate, also showed himself once again to be a total psychopath with absolutely no regard for the constitution or any of the values that we all collectively hold. and i have no doubt that whoever the democrats would put up under this hypothetical that you're putting out there, that there would be a resoundingly success because that's not where the majority of the american people are. okay, that's it just isn't. i've got so much faith in the american people that i do believe that irrespective of who was put up there that you would see a dramatic win on the part of the democratic party. and that'll be a win for the american people. >> david house republicans wrap yes. go ahead. i'm sorry. no, go ahead. i was going to say i was going to say listen you know, congressman, clearly that's not correct because in poll after poll after poll biden-harris the biden-harris ticket is getting drugged drug by donald trump if he's such an american, people think he's such a threat, they're not

convinced of it. people probably in staten island, your district aren't convinced to that. they're not convinced of it in long island are not convinced the bint and lots of places so if he's so terrible, why is he doing so well and so many states and so many swing states in so many places that the you know, what law affair and all these other moves again, him off the ballot, right? maybe maybe everybody knew something about joe biden. this was the case way back when and they figured biden campaign we've got to get them off the got them off, get him off the ticket oh, listen. bring kamala harris the nrcc has an ad out today, eric, i think you're going to talk about right. in which they highlight the vice president's role in the border and other things. let, let's not forget kamala harris during the primary just to say what the congress were talking about, skipping over a barak obama skipped over joe biden when he was vice president, right? two for? hillary clinton, to be next up in the hopper. so vice presidents gets skipped over all the time. they do. and homolytic come with

harris is even. she's even less popular than joe biden. >> she's actually pulling better in some of the cnn polling and a head-to-head matchup that just came out yesterday. hey, would you likely saw david? she actually does a little better than joe biden in a head-to-head with donald trump real quickly. we only have about 20 seconds, but the gop has sent so much time attacking kamala harris, putting this ad out. now, does that actually show that perhaps there is some concern among republicans that she may be more difficult candidate for donald trump i don't know one republican who is concerned about kamala harris running at the top of the ticket, not one alright, gentlemen, we have to leave it there. >> it is a busy night. appreciate you both being with us. thank you. >> thanks. thanks. you have this hurricane out front next the breaking news continues. president biden, just sitting down for a radio interview. we now are getting audio in of what he had to say about his debate performance. plus, biden says he isn't going anywhere. i'm gonna speak with a longtime democratic donor. however, he says he feels he's been deceived. he's been lied to about the president's fitness for office. and also breaking

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serve.com. i had to montgomery and took and this is cnn tonight. president biden is speaking out a brand new interview with a wisconsin radio hosts as he tries to quiet the growing calls for him to drop out of the president and she'll race. his messaging consistent with what we've heard from the white house and a bad night. >> and the fact of the matter is that, you know, i i screwed up. i made a mistake that's 90 minutes on stays. look, what i've done in 3.5 years out front now is a person who spoke with the president earlier today, early and grim host of the url ingram show url, it's good to have you here tonight we heard they're the president, president biden addressing his poor debate performance a second democratic congressman tonight is now calling for him to step aside. major donors also joining those public calls what was your sense url after speaking with the president today, is he fit to continue and to keep running? >> i think that's a decision that will clearly have to be made by himself and his family

in those and political arena who know him best. he certainly didn't appear to show me the signs of a guy who's ready to throw in the towel. he was as combative as he's been in the last year or so so he's not a guy who's ready to throw in the towel. >> i know you give a daily radio show there in wisconsin. this is a crucial state. i know i don't need to tell you that come november and this has been dominating the conversation. your listeners, as i understand it, they're mainly democrats. how did they feel? what are they telling you well, you know, this morning before two hours, my phone leinz or completely jammed as we had the conversation and debate on whether or not this is something that should occur. >> and i can tell you that the majority of the listening

audience thought that we should leave it as it is, and it's a big mistake for the democratic party but he to attempt to force this on them, as well as joe biden. and i think the operative thing is on them many of these people had dug in. they loved joe biden. they think that it's too late. they think it's a mistake. there are so concerned about donald trump. they want to focus to be on donald trump. and they somehow think that what we're doing is missing the opportunity to get people to understand that this focus is on donald trump, and it shouldn't be on president biden, which i disagree with by the way disagree with how with the fact that we should not have a conversation it's part of the political system to say that things that you can't discuss when we're talking about who is going to be two most powerful person in the world? doesn't make any sense to me. and so that's not part

of the democratic process, and it can't be about emotion. it has to be about reasoning what's right and what's wrong. and that only comes through debate. >> i know you asked the president today about donald g debate regarding what he referred to as in black jobs here's part of what the president had to say you know what he's doing is shameful. >> he's talking about black jobs, meaning only things in flax can do manual labor, being menial labor actually do. and that's how it looks in it. >> what else did the president bring up with you? did he did he touch on that? he seemed concerned about in the wake of the debate in terms of the conversation well, you know, there's a plethora of things when you look at the conditions that exist and have can have existed in in black america. >> i'm 70-years-old we, just celebrated, the 60 year anniversary of the civil rights

bill. and here it is 60 years later. and the the income that disparity gap in this nation is a bismol black americans on average $45,000 a year. white americans, well over $260,000 a year is absolutely unconscionable. that after all these years that still exists to joe biden's credit, these attempted to address those issues he certainly is made it a priority, but he hasn't been able to make these things all the reality because he's had a couple of democrats, kristen cinema joe manchin, who interfered with what he was attempting to make happen i can tell you that he's been able to accomplish some things that have made it more palatable for the poor. and people of color and downtrodden in this nation

to have an opportunity to let people realize that, hey, there's somebody who does care about them early and grim really appreciate you taking the time to join us tonight and sharing a little bit more of that conversation. and especially what we've heard from your listeners that full interview of course, airs tomorrow on the url ingram show. thank you thank you very much. out front now, whitney tilts in a longtime democratic donor who says, it is time for biden to step aside. so what you just heard from url ingrid in gray, i'm talking about what his listeners are saying. majority black voters in wisconsin, they say biden is their guy. they do not want to rock the boat. they want him in this race, you want him out. why because i think donald trump represents an existential threat and we should do whatever is maximizes our chances of defeating him in november i agree with president biden. >> that is a year ago when he decided to run again, that he represented the best chance

unfortunately, over the past year, father time has caught up with him and the american people. i don't think he should listen to me i don't think he should look in the mirror and listen to himself. i think he should ask the american people and what mr. ingram said is not consistent with the latest polling data just today, both the new york times and the wall street journal came out with polls showing that 74 and one called 74% and 80% of americans said joe biden is too old to be an effective president. so it's no wonder that he has fought, gone from three points down to trump nationally to six points down. now, in multiple high-quality polls which basically tells me that with four months to go until the election if, if joe biden remains as the presidential candidate, he is going to lose possibly in a landslide. and i know he doesn't want that, so i believe that he will do what

he is always done, put his party and most importantly, his country first and step aside you have said, i know that privately. a number of democrats have shared their concerns with you, reed hastings, one of the party's biggest donors, just told the new york times, he now thinks it's time for biden to step in aside. do you think these more public pushes from yourself, from other donors, from lawmakers will bring more people forward publicly i think that the dam has broken and the more and more people will come out publicly. i can tell you with certainty that as recently as last friday and saturday after the debate, there were quite a few people who felt like it was just an off tonight as of today, there is i can't find anybody even the i am a hard hardcore democrat and biden supporter. i love joe biden. i respect the fact that he's an optimist, that he's a fighter. and that is served him well. and then 52 years since he was first elected to the senate but it's different

today. i'm afraid the ship has sailed and there is there is basically no almost no support remaining for him as a candidate, not against him personally, but because nobody thinks he can be trump, but i think unfortunately, that's correct. >> so so that's that point then what do you think the timeline is here i actually think, you know, it reminds me about what hemingway in for whom the bell tolls. >> i believe where his character was asked, how did you go bankrupt in the answer was well, at first slowly and then quickly i think we've reached a tipping point where from everything i'm hearing, both in the polls, talking to donors, seen what politicians are saying behind the scenes. only very few have gone public, but trust me they're all saying the same thing privately. they just don't want it. they just don't want it. they actually think by going public that joe biden will dig in his heels and it will be contrary to what we all want so i didn't get to but i

know you had said you thought it could be as soon as friday. i only have time for a yes or no. do you stand by it? okay. >> i think i think we are certainly not talking a matter of weeks. it's a matter of days. i think before joel biden will do the right thing, whitney. >> thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight my pleasure. i'll front next one of the country's most trusted election forecasters, just downgrading two key states for joe biden. so which sites and why larry sabotage so 0s here next plus jill biden is and has been one of the president's fiercest defenders. she is leading the charge to save his political career answered every question at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets bhole, new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and

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take his place. but now that that seems closer to reality than ever before a possible reality, they are left to figure out what exactly that would look like. and they have spent millions of dollars in modeling in data in you searched, going after and looking at a race that puts trump against president joe biden and not anyone else. if you look at the one of his quotes, i want to pull up here. this is from a gop pollster. i think it says at all, which is he'd rather go with the devil. he knows than the devil he does know. but talking to a lot of trump's advisers, they say this race is going to be determined by the issues they don't think the candidate is going to matter. in fact, one senior adviser says this to me. the issues are the issues and that's what people care about every person on the potential list. and that is to replace joe biden has been complicit in the decisions of the biden administration obviously saying that whoever is at the top of the ticket, they are going to continue to try to link to the current state of the economy and inflation, immigration, the issues that trump pulls better

at than president joe biden. but again, this is a new turn of the wheel and it doesn't seem as the trump campaign realized how devastating this was going to be for president joe biden the debate until monday, and that's when they really started making calls, not just two democrats that are friendly, but also to reporters. i'm talking about really everyone in trump's orbit. i'm getting calls from all corners of trump world trying to figure out what exactly is going to happen next. they say there'll be ready, but they also say, and this comes from senior advisers. they're not going to do a single thing until this plays out. they're not going to spend money trying to revamp a campaign until they see what actually happens with president joe biden. interesting, although there is one neutron bad out as we know, i'm going after the vice president, so that too much money, but maybe just a little courage appreciate it as always. thank you out front now, larry sabotage, the founder and director of the university of virginia center for politics, and he's also of course, the man behind the very closely watched political ratings report saboteurs, crystal ball, which predicts the likely outcomes of races across the

country. so larry, you just downgraded to key states for biden, michigan. now a toss up. you had previously said it leaned in democratic and minnesota also slipping here from a likely victory for president biden to just leaning, blue. why? >> we'll certainly the debate played a role, although i need to stress as others have, and that president biden had already slipped behind before the debate he was behind president trump before he got on that stage. and it's only gotten worse since it's pretty stunning to see the cnn poll and a couple of other polls today showing that trump has a six point lead over joe biden and its eight points, if you consider the entire pool of registered voters, a joke. i tell you what shocked a lot of

democrats and democratic donors and others it's the fact that donald trump for the first time ever, is on the edge of 50%. he's right there. we thought four years that his high watermark was 46%, which is essentially what he gotten 2016 and 2020 this is serious business and it has got worse. and i think people also are taking it more seriously because

>> what about as you point out, importantly, there is a lot of time, but there are a lot of questions. does do things change if kamala harris becomes a democratic nominee? >> yes, it's very interesting. the focus has been on biden and the republican attacks have been almost exclusively on biden. it's actually significant that they have released and add about commonly harris you see, they've let her go for awhile and others have to because a vice president tends to disappear, a better move to the back of the stage. and so her ratings are a bit better and sure enough, she's coming closer to trump and biden is two weeks ago on to show you said you're already hearing from worry democratic

officials. they were asking before the debate, what would happen if president biden was two? are convinced with only one exception that president biden has to step down. >> they don't agree about who should succeed and how to do it and whether there should be an open convention. the more they think think about it, the more i think they'll realize that harris has access to the money and the the legal justification for using it and other things as a part of the ticket, it would probably be easier and smoother if she's simply ascended to the nomination, assuming president biden will move along. and who knows? >> lesson, as you said, a lot can happen in the next hour. this is politics larry always appreciate it. thank you. keep that crystal ball close thanks, erica out front next, jill biden. ease. the president is closest confidant and advocate. the president is future, may well depend on what she believes is the correct path forward for her husband. we have a special report s-plus, more breaking news, a monster

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mantle to save him answered every question the first lady is all in a source tells cnn saying that she was still committed to her husband, remaining in the 2020 breaking news, as you see here, the governors just coming out from their meeting with the president. >> let's listen in your radical forgotten reach serve with donald trump was president and the threats to our nation were real so those concerns are real to us and what we understand was a trump presidency was chaos destruction of biden presidency was dealing with covid using the science investing in infrastructure and working to the middle-class and all of us are trying to figure out and just just wanted to make sure as governors were on the front line of many of these things. we're in state. so whether they're swing states or not where folks karen are giving us feedback and the feedback was we are all looking for the path to win all the governors agree with that. president biden degrees that he has had our backs through covid through all of the recovery, all the things

that have happened, the governors have his back and we're working together just to make very, very clear on that path to victory in november is the number one priority. and that's the number one priority of the president. so that's what we're trying to get done. the you back was good. that conversation was honest and open and the action that will come out of that will make sure that we're getting that message out with that, governor moore. thank you so much. it was a great. conversation with the president, a vice president because it was honest. there was candid. i think that we always believed that when you when you love someone, you tell him i think we came in and we were honest about the feedback that we were getting. were honest about the concerns that we are hearing from people. and we're also honest about the fact that as the president continued to tell us and show us that he was all in that. we said that we would stand with him because as as governor walz said, the president has always had our backs. we're going to have his back as well because the results that we've been able to see under this administration have been undeniable and all of our individual states. but the thing that makes us most

optimistic and most hopeful is not necessarily that we're great of an alternative, but also is that we're hopeful for the future and so we know we have work to do. we know that as we're standing right here, we're behind, but we also know that that path to be able to make sure that we can pull ahead and november is real and it's going to take all of us in order to make it happen and to make it work. and we're grateful to hear the level of excitement and the focus that the president, the vice president have about being victorious in november and with that, i'll turn it over to govern home. >> thank you representing states like new york and all across america. we came together tonight to listen to president biden tell us in his own words what his plans were. i'm here to tell you today president joe biden is in it to win it and all of us said we pledged our support to him because the thanks could not be higher on the eve of the 4 july celebration, we talked about how we transition monarchy and

tyranny that our founding fathers fought against. that we risk right now, descending back into that very same place. we will stand with the president, doesn't fight that force, that force being donald trump and together, we'll make sure that americans know not just what joe biden did for all of us the list of what he did for my state of york is extraordinarily lot where he's going for the future and where it's going to take this country. we feel very confident in his abilities. we talked about the plan and how he's gonna be very focused on issues who's the matter to americans. and i felt very confident coming out as meeting as well thank you. >> split. yes. tip or office president asked 3.5 three-and-a-half years of delivering for us going through what we've all been through none of us are denying thursday night was a bad performance. it was a bad it was a bad cat, if you will, on that. but it doesn't impact what i believe he's delivering the games

aisle know, i always say this in november, we've got a clear choice. >> the president was very clear that he is in this to win this and the president is going to present is our nominee, the present are part is our party leader and the president has told us and he was very clear back there that he is in this to win this. and so for people, i would say and listen, we're governors, we don't do hammering that's not what we do governor's work and get things done governor say tell me the objective and we're going to make sure that we accomplish the objective. and so for people who who are, who are concerned, i just want to be very clear on something and come november, we've got a binary choice. and the binary choices between someone who has continually delivered for us in our states and the people of our states. and frankly, someone who's vision for the future of this country is downright dangerous. and so i would tell people, it is time to mount up and it's time to get serious. and understand what's we gave a great example

when he said, look, i'm worrying about numbers on this. it's about people. it's about their lives. this is joe from scranton he talks about building the middle-class. he did it, he delivered and i think this idea that you get in your own head, you get a little bit cycled up on that. what we saw it in there today was a guy who was the guy that all of us believed in the first time who could beat donald trump and did be dominant so just hearing their from three of the governors who were in the meeting, their governor tim waltz, governor kathy hochul, governor wes moore all of them at talking about standing with the president, saying it consistently, he's had our back. >> will have his governor tim waltz saying they were there because they were trying to figure things out, noting that the governors are on the front lines there they are hearing feedback from the people in their states. their hearing

concern from the people in their states. they are looking for a path to win and they wanted to speak to the president and the vice president about that. governor wes moore saying it was an honest and candid conversation where they shared those concerns and that feedback. but ultimately all three of them saying that they do stand with the president here that they were grateful for his focus. a governor walz was asked whether the president addressed his debate performance. he didn't address a directly said, yes, he did. but then went on to say he was the guy. all of us believed in. governor hochul saying very clearly she feels confident in his abilities. so this of course, a sharp change from some of the other comments we have heard tonight, a second, congressman, democratic congressman earlier, calling for the president to step aside as well as one of the democratic party's top donors. as we continue to process all of this information, there are also questions about the conversations that are happening between the president and the first lady lady, we know she is his number one confidant. she is his number one cheerleader. she has been out there stumping for him. my

colleague semblance or fatty joining me now with more about her role. and the role of the first lady moving forward here you did such a great job at the most critical moment of president joe biden's political it is jill biden who is assuming the mantle to save him answered every question the first lady is all in a source tells cnn saying that she's still we'll committed to her husband remaining in the 2024 race i love to him from the start i saw him then the same character that i see in him today in the sixth day since the debate, her flurry of campaign events and outfront public statements has signaled that resolve. there is no one that i would rather have sitting in the oval office right now, then my husband waging a public display of damage control, telling

fundraisers that her husband said of the debate, i don't know what happened. i didn't feel that great in attempts at narrative setting, telling vogue they will not let those 90 minutes to find the four years he's been president. we will continue to fight this is a role jill biden has had for nearly five decades. >> my name is joe biden. i'm joe biden's husband. >> as a president's chief confidence, staunchest advocate, and fiercest defender after nearly 50 years of marriage, all in the political arena where they have been battle tested together. she does not want to give up this position. it doesn't want her husband to give it up and i think it says a lot about her belief in him that she that she was the first person we heard from, but that outsized influence in this crisis is being scrutinized as questions over president biden's fitness for office are mounting some are pointing a finger at the

first lady of texas republican musing, who is the commander in chief with a video of the biden it's hand-in-hand after the debate, another republican member of congress accusing jill biden and the campaign of elder abuse and a wall street journal opinion article says jill biden should ask herself whether her admirable loyalty to her husband will serve the best interests of our country adding that fate has given mrs. biden the power to shape if history meizi use it wisely presidential historians drawing comparisons to pass first lady's protecting the legacy of their husbands around sensitive issues. there were allegations are rumors of president reagan's condition are some signs of cognitive difficulty or perhaps no early dementia. she dismissed that. again, was focused on his legacy. what he could contribute, and his presidency, the white house says that is not what is happening here. asked if the first lady is covering up a medical condition

of the president's, the first lady's communications director. tell cnn, know an infant paddock no so an emphatic no, there there's also been some criticism that the first lady is shielding. the president sunland. how does the white house respond to that? yeah. erica, source close to the bidens telling me that's ludicrous. the first lady also lady's office, there's tried to push back on that and they say are trying to argue at least that that's just not what's happening here. they say that she is, they are just to support her husband, that he has his own political and policy advisors and that politics they say is his lane. but certainly anyone who's observed the bidens and certainly multiple sources confirm that. again, to me that their bond is so close that this is something she has turned into something of a de facto advisor it's hard to him over the years. an ally of the president and the first lady's also tells me that she will continue to be his biggest defender, but that essentially the blame for all of us, they say can't fall solely on her back here. they say, quote, it's unfair to put the future of the democratic party on a

spouse. this source tells me certainly significant also today, erica that she was out on the campaign trail opening a campaign office in michigan, and she said joe biden will be the nominee sunland. appreciate the reporting is always thanks for joining us. the lead starts now welcome to delete. i'm jake tapper in a moment. the dire situation in which president biden finds himself plus donald trump's miami rally plan. is he close to making a vp announcement? and then there is the independent presidential candidate, robert f. kennedy jr. who is currently denying are rather devastating article in vanity fair describes how he wants eight a dog? apparently, he's also not denying a much more shocking and hideous accusation, one of an alleged sexual assault, leading this hour democratic governors standing binds, meet with president joe biden in the next 90 minutes. some of them will do so virtually. others will do it the person at the white house as a source told me yesterday many govis