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heels and resisting calls from members of his own party to step aside. and the first televised your interview since his shaky debate performance last week, biden once again dismissed the debate as a quote, bad night denied the polls showing him losing to trump and wouldn't commit to taking a cognitive test the american people than watching yet their concerns about your age and your health are growing that's why i'm asking you to reassure them. >> would you be willing to have the independent medical evaluation? >> watch me be to use a lot of time left in this camp over 125 days. so the answer to the right answer right now is no. you don't want to do that, right? i've already done that what tonight more democrats are calling on the 81-year-old candidate to suspend his campaign with one lawmaker telling cnn, quote, we are screwed seen as our lead sign joins us live from wilmington, delaware where the president is spending the day before heading back to the campaign trail. >> so r, lead, the campaign

really wanted this abc interview to kind of help turn the page right to get the focus back on donald trump, not on joe biden, but even after this interview, you had another house democrat calling on joe biden to step aside. how is the campaign responding to all of this today well, pamela, the biden campaign healy expressed optimism after this interview as they viewed this as a key step in trying to reassure voters that president biden is up for a second term in office. but it does not appear that it fully quelled some of the serious doubts within the democratic party about president biden moving forward with this 2024 race. now, president i didn't was defiant in his answers insisting that he is not backing down from the campaign, even as there are questions from some within his own party about whether you should continue and the president also pushed back on the idea that top democrats want to see him leave this race. take a listen everyone oh

said i should stay in the race, stay in the race. >> no one said not on the people i should leave. but if they do it's like can we do that? you're sure yeah. i'm sure. look, i mean, if more than mighty cannot sit yogurt out the race, i gather race and lord when he's not coming down now so far, at least five house democratic lawmakers have publicly called for president biden to step aside and the campaign, the most recent one being angie craig from minnesota, from a swing district. >> she wrote in a statement that it was the president its performance, but also what she viewed as a lack of a forceful response in the days after that led her to this decision as she believes that the president cannot effectively campaign in beat trump in november. now, prior to this interview, cnn had learned that senator mark warner was trying to assemble a

group of democrats, grad iq senator paris to try to get on the same page relating to the president's candidacy with one source familiar with the situation telling cnn that warner was close to reaching a point where he believed president biden also needed to step aside. so we will see whether any of that comes to fruition within the democratic caucus in the senate. but there have been these increasing calls from but there's holes within the president's own party for him to step aside, even as he's trying to take these various steps to try to reassure voters. it's just not clear whether it will be enough as the pressure has been mounted on him in recent days certainly. now we're finding out about the radio interviews of the president did right after the debate are a couple of days after the first pair of interviews that he did, where for the radio host spoke to see it as victor blackwell this morning and reveal the questions were provided by biden aides. let's play that clip questions were sent to me for approval. i approved to them okay. >> so the white house sent the questions to you ahead of the interview? yes okay. thank got

several questions. eight of them. and the four that were chosen with the ones that i approved so our left the biden campaign is responding to this unusual practice tonight. >> what does it say? >> yeah, it isn't unusual practice and the biden campaign did not deny that they had provided some recommended questions too. >> these radio show host, they did note that the interviews were not conditioned on the fact that these questions be used. but today a source familiar with the booking operation, with the campaign told cnn that they will be changing their tactics going forward. they said the source said, quote, while interview hosts have always been free he to ask whatever questions they please, moving forward, we will refrain from offering suggestion questions. it all comes in a very interesting time when the biden campaign has said that they want the president to strike, started engaging in more off the cuff, unscripted moments. that is

something that many of his allies have called for, including senator chris coons. i spoke with him a bit earlier today. he was on a call with president biden with a co-chairs of the campaign for more than an hour today, he said that in that phone call, the president really tried to seek honest input and advice about the path forward. and it was his expectation that president biden moving forward will engage in some more of these unscripted moments, perhaps town halls or press conferences, but uh, certainly there has been a very questionable spotlight shines around the practice relating to these radio interviews, especially since they were the first interviews the president was conducting in the wake of that debate. >> all right. thank you so much. arlette saenz joining us now is former republican congressman joe walsh. so joe, you're a radio host yourself? i'm just wondering first, what your reaction is to the fact we're learning tonight that the biden campaign provided questions to these two black radio hosts who would conduct the first interviews after

biden's debate? and the radio host approved the questions that ask them in that quote, unquote interview, what, what do you make of that hamlet as a former radio host, it's it's stunning and it's, it's not an interview. >> and if, if the prerequisite to me interviewing president biden on my radar you show was here are the questions you need to ask him. i would have turned down that interview look, this is just the latest evidence of how poorly the biden campaign has handled this thing. since the debate pam i always need to say this at the beginning the only thing that matters is donald trump needs to lose because donald trump is a threat to our democracy joe biden has always had one thing and one thing only to prove he's not too old and he's up to the job at that debate last

week, he didn't not only did he not prove that he demonstrated that is too old, but to your point, pamela their behavior in the eight or nine days since the debate. i think has been a bigger fail than the debate. biden should have gotten out there friday and saturday and sunday and monday and tuesday and wednesday, and to add a two hour press conference every day, a two hour unscripted town hall every day. he shouldn't have gotten out there this past nine days. in this would have i think quelled this inevitable rush that he's just not capable it's interesting because i was speaking to a democratic strategist yesterday and this person echoed that basically questioning why was invited in working the phones immediately after the debate rather than go into the waffle house at north carolina and so forth, then camp david for several days and to letting the narrative kind

of fester so you say, look, he had he just had to show everyone look, i'm not too old. i'm capable. that's what he was trying to do on this interview with george stephanopoulos on abc. what do you think? do you think his performance alleviated any of those concerns about the president's age no. >> and again, pamela, i say that as a never-trumper who will support who ever the democratic nominee is if joe biden stays in this race, i will run through a wall to help get them elected, but eight days later, eight days, he has a 22 minute interview and the interview to me didn't really go super well and didn't really alleviate a lot of fears, but it's the eight days pam, it's the eight days you get the sense that joe biden is in denial and doesn't fully realize how bad things are, and

that he's heats insulated by people who aren't giving him correct information. >> and we should note that the white house for its part, the press secretary has given conflicting information from what we're even hearing from joe biden right? i mean, it's been all over the map in terms of his last physical exam and mental exam and when that happened and then he said during the interview that, oh, actually at before the debate, he was checked out by doctors. he was tested for a virus and infection. he didn't have what i mean? we can't get a straight story out of the white house right? in terms of him seeing a doctor during the abc interview, biden was asked about how he'd feel in january if he loses the the election to trump. here's what he said and if you stay in an trump is elected and everything, your warning about comes to pass how will you feel in january as

long as i gave it my all you could just chops. >> i know i can do. that's what this is. the bow so in your view, what will be biden's legacy if he loses come november pamela, when i heard that answer last night, i literally was drinking a glass of water. >> thankfully, it was a plastic cupp and through the cup against the wall, are you serious? joe biden has rightly been telling us that donald trump is an existential threat to our democracy. that if he's elected, we will lose our democracy. he will be a dictator, by the way, i believe that george stephanopoulos asked him if you stay in and trump wins, how will you feel? and he says, well, i'll feel like if i did my all and i gave it my best, i'll feel fine. either he doesn't get it or he hasn't been straightforward in what he believes about trump. i just i think something's going

to happen fast and when i say fast, i think in within a week or two, we're going to get a decision. but if joe biden doesn't get out there and show the american people still, he's up for this. i don't know how he stops it. >> look like you said good decision because biden's i am not going anywhere. so what do you mean by that do you think you could just yeah, he has to say that until he doesn't because if he didn't say that then then watched the barn door, then then, you know, everybody buddy would run from him days ago. so he has to say that but i do not believe there isn't a party. him and his advisers that no, that may not be the case. >> well, it's interesting too, because he had this call with campaign co-chairs, including including chris coons, where he was apparently asking them for their thoughts that's on it the path forward. so that does indicate what you said that he's still exploring whether

he should stay in or not. i've interviewed two democratic house members on the show today. neither of them are calling for biden to step down. we should be very clear, but they do have different opinions about how the perception of biden after the debate is sticking with voters. take a listen we had a two person majority and the senate was either one person or it was a 50, 50 senate extraordinary understanding of how to move the government he did he lose that in the last month? absolutely lost not he did not he's still has that capability. i am not about to throw him overboard because of a bad experience. i want to give him every opportunity to try to recover. having said that at the end of the day, we cannot afford to make a mistake about donald trump so i think i'm going to i think i know where you're gonna go with

this. >> but who should biden be listening to? i mean those opinions he's he's hearing. it sounds like from what he said in the abc interview is hearing more from what the garamendi is, right of, hey, it didn't really make that much of a mark on the voters and not maybe the jerry connolly's who are saying, i'm worried like this is making a dent and our rotors and this could hurt us in november somebody pamela, somebody's got appears the small circle that is protecting him right now a barak obama a nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, a hakeem jeffries somebody has to pierce that bubble because i can tell you as a former house candidate, who worried about who was at the top of my ticket. >> any democrat right now running for election or reelection in the house? in a competitive district is scared to death right now. that biden is going to speaking out, because like only one of the five that i have spoken out asking for him to step down

isn't a swing district. >> so why aren't the others why why are we seeing that so i think you will house the house comes back this upcoming week. >> they're going to be asked, now, this upcoming week, everything is going to be here. they're going to be asked, they're going to have microphones in front of them. so i do think you're going to begin to see a real sea change this week because they can't pamela, they'd been told you know, they're they're leaders in the house. have clearly told them for now, stay quiet but you can only put your finger in that dike for so long and it'll either break this week or joe biden is able to get out there this week and show that he is capable. >> all right. so whilst thank you so much. also tonight, tropical storm beryl now closing in on texas, likely to make landfall as a hurricane. cnn meteorologist chad myers is in the weather center time and

it out chad what is the latest while the airplane's you're in it right now trying to figure out whether this thing is getting stronger or not. we don't that the pressure has gone down a little bit in the first pass of that airplane. it's in very warm water here are the airplanes one coming in from the north, one coming in from tampa. and so yes, they are going to be in it all night long trying to figure out whether it's growing. because really this is going to be a category one in the forecast, but a four to six foot surge in places that have quite a few people that could be in the way more than 74 mile per hour winds in the all those little red areas there like a death valley yesterday, 127 degrees temperatures up and down the west coast again, in the 102 110 degree range and more fires going on out there. i have a friend who works at the weather service in los angeles. he's working the thompson fire. he said that the firefighters will be working in 115 degree heat today. so when you're having a bad day at work, think about that really presented a perspective, chad. >> wow. thanks so so much. well, vice president kamala

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about lowering the cost of insulin. she raised the issue of black maternal health and said that it was a real priority for the the administration. what she did not do, pam she did not seem to be angling at all to be at the top of the ticket. that is a conversation that is happening nationwide. but throughout this controversy, the vice president has indicated both publicly and privately, that she is completely committed to being president biden's running mate. she told voters at this election is pivotal. let's listen you have the former president who is running to become president again, was openly talked about his admiration of dictators and his intention to be a dictator on day the one who is openly talked about his intention to weaponize the department of justice against his political enemies, who has talked about being proud of taking from the women of america a most

fundamental right to make decisions about your own body and pam, i have to tell you there are black voters here from all across the country, you know, well, that they are corps coalition for democrats, black women often referred to as the backbone of the party. and in my conversations with them, no indication that they want president biden to step aside time and time again. they say they support biden. they support harris is biden's running mate and ultimately, what is of most consequence to them is the former president not getting reelected. pam. all right. eva mckend, that's really important, reported. thank you. joining us now is bettering california journalists dan marine, he's the author of the biography, camilla's way so you've said people should not underestimate harris. why well it's happened many times before and people

politicians who do underestimate or tend to lose you know, she, she is very smart, she's very talented, she is she's a very good politician and i understand that she has had difficulties early in the administration but you see her kind of hitting our stride kinda the right time right now she's not going to call for joe pine to step aside. >> she she would be the last person who would do that i think it's clear that she's very loyal to the president but she is but she is becoming more of a force and it's not surprising having watched her run three statewide campaigns out here in california, it's not surprising at all. >> and it's interesting to, to see how joe biden has been seemingly keeping her closer. and maybe it's five or vice

versa too. she's keeping him close, but just this week, the vice president has joined the president i didn't for his call with president prime minister netanyahu and all-staff campaign meeting. and at the closed-door meeting with governors. so what do you make of that? the fact that she is making more frequent appearances with biden, does that indicate to you that they may be putting her in a position to replace them or are we just reading two? much into that yeah. >> i think i think he understands that she's a valuable asset of political asset, and she's and so he's he's wise to have her there with him you know, i as i'm in california there in washington for the most part, i'm a long ways away that said he would clearly he clearly benefits from hurried bennett. that's why he picked her in the first place, she brings energy, she brings youth, relative youth.

she brings fundraising capability she energizes crouch. she can energize the crowd. i've seen it happen and also in an debate she's very good. i moderated debate when she ran for attorney general first time in 2010, out here in california and if there was any one reason why she won, it was not debate so then how do you think she would do going toe-to-toe against trump, given his style of insulting his rivals well i think i mean, he's he's already insulted her persistently appears as as have his allies she was a trial lawyer she was a prosecutor. she understands the given give-and-take in a one on one debate. i think she would be

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reform politician and elections held after the previous hardline president died in a helicopter crash back in may, the new president is calling for unity and a new chapter for iran. >> and he could shake its relations with the u.s and the west cnn's per apply kin has more from tehran either pamela will pretty interesting election results there in iran in that runoff election, vote one of the things that of course we were looking at was the voter turnout and normal billy, it's the case that if the turnout is fairly low, that the conservatives do quite well. >> but in this case, the turnout was 50%, which is still pretty low, but the moderates managed to take the election and masoud pezeshkian, the president-elect, he actually won by quite a significant amount of votes against saeed jalili, the conservative contender. now, masoud pezeshkian, during his election campaign and even before that has said that he wants better relations with countries in the region, of course right now the middle east he's in a lot of turmoil, but also better

relations with countries in the west. now in order to achieve that, he of course, has to not only negotiate with the country's of that region or end with the west, but also of course, internally as well as far as foreign policy is concerned, everything that happens needs to be signed off by iran prim, leader ayatollah ali, khamenei, but also the military in iran, especially the irgc, the islamic revolutionary guard corps, is very influential as well. so that could certainly be an uphill battle for masoud pezeshkian nevertheless, as far as voters are concerned, many had said that they believed the economic situation needs it's to be improved. and of course, one of the main ways to do that is with better relations, with countries around the world. and for iran to try and get some of those crippling sanctions lifted. pamela all right. thanks so much for pleitgen among the country's congratulated the new leader of iran is russian president vladimir putin, saying that he helps to quote, expand cooperation between the countries of ron has been an

important supplier of weapons to russia and its ongoing invasion of ukraine joining us now a cnn contributor, jill dougherty, she is the former cnn model scalp bureau chief and an adjunct professor at georgetown university. so gel what's going on here? do you think that putin is, is basically lately trying to curry favor with the new the ronnie and president. do you think it's going to work well, i think definitely, you know, iran is very, very important and if the new president is going to be as fred just pointed out, establishing better are hoping to establish better relations with the west. >> then putin is very interested in that because of course he doesn't want that so i would i would say obviously it's a transactional relationship. they need russian needs, iran, especially for drones and equipment for the war in ukraine. so he's covering all bases and trying to keep that relationship very strong. >> then you have hungry and

it's prime minister viktor orban, who by the way, is an ally of trump and putin, who went to moscow yesterday. >> and that with putin angry his fellow eu leaders hungry is just now taking its turn and the rotating presidency of the council of the eu. what do you think that happened? do you think that the, you could penalized hungry over this well, you know, if you look at the reaction right now, i would say the allies in the eu are furious and the criticism nino putin is exploiting the situation you would have to say and ursula von der leyen, who's the ecb president, calls it appeasement another european official from lithuania said that he's dealing with a bloody dictator. >> so you can see the response. now, how they can get back at him or punish him for doing this after all, he really is breaking ranks to say the least he is meeting with putin when

putin with the eu is supposed to be a pariah, nobody is supposed to be meeting with putin so there's a lot of concern that, or ban right now is trying to either undermine or somehow weaken the unity of the you and whether they can punish him he just became the head of the eu cancels. so it's not clear, but there are some indications, almost like veiled threats that perhaps the eu could take some type of step. it might even be just diplomatic, but to show that it is very very angry with the prime minister of hungary we should note this is the same. viktor orban, who was essentially dismantle democracy in his contrary, and who also met with donald trump earlier this spring. this is his first visit there since 2022. why now, do you think i think you

have to look at the timing of coming into the presidency of the european council. >> they have a moment here where they can get a lot of attention certainly look at what or ban did. i think it was five days after he became president. he headed to kyiv, knowing that zelenskyy will never go along with what or bound is calling his piece mission. alaska is never going to accept that and then a day or two later hey, there he goes to moscow. this gets attention and you have to say, look at the history of orban and ukraine, or ban has tried to make ukraine make concessions. he's stopped any attempt to have any weapons coming through hungry aid to ukraine and, he's interfered really in in ukraine's trying to join the eu. so he is no friend of ukraine and bringing that up as a piece program or pitting a

peace mission it's not going to go anywhere, but it gives him a tangent and it carries favor with vladimir putin, who is you'd have to say an ally of oregon yeah. >> that's that's the bottom line right there. and you'll doherty. thank you so much. well, it's hard to imagine and during temperatures and the 110, right, without any electricity, that is still the reality for folks. and one community. but there is enough to change that this election season stay with cnn, with more reporters on the ground and the best political team in the business follow the voters, follow the results, follow the facts follow cnn every everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. they want that hollywood white smile, new censored in clinical white rights two sheets, whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity of

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and wonder for 70 years, he's lived on this patch of the navajo nation in new mexico without electricity, seems like a life life-changing moment for you it is hideous. his going to be real good his family's home will soon be connected to the power grid that means air conditioning in the refrigerator and it comes as the summer heat intensifies yeah. >> yeah. it's getting hot and hot and hot drier and drier and that's dangerous, brings the sun comes down right first this summer, power line crews have planted 55 polls stretching along four miles through this rugged landscape. the work is part of a non-profit partnership known as light up navajo. the goal is to bring power to 13,000 families who live without electricity in one of the poorest places in the country, the crews come from 46 different power utility companies in 16 states this

group of lineman signed up for this assignment. and as the planet gets warmer, they sensed the urgency of their mission. to me, it's just some thinkable that here where the greatest country in the world and we have americans are living without power or water. >> all that. >> it's crazy that, that still happens in american 2024. >> so will your less than 20 24 hours away from giving electricity at your house? yeah. yeah. exactly this is william tom's last night living without power. >> tomorrow, crews will connect his home to the newly installed power leinz, reaching his house he's lived here 15 years and often slept outside because it's cooler did you ever get frustrated? did you ever think that this is a hard way to live yeah, of course. yeah. there's there's frustration this summer though. we will feel different with a flip of a switch good on around the

breakers. you read, right? yeah. when you're ready ready here we go there we go. awry all that's pretty good light bulbs working. yeah. yeah. levels working now you can go buy an air conditioning unit. i need to i need to, yes, i do the light up navajo project started in 2019, almost 800 and 50 homes have been connected to the power grid. navajo nation is roughly the size of west virginia with home spread out across rugged and isolated terrain it will likely take decades to finish the project. while one family celebrates, it's a reminder that thousands of others remained disconnected, left struggle going through the painful summers, or lean henry's house has a small solar panel that provides a few hours of electricity. but her son needs around the clock oxygen they use their car as a power source. you'll come here just to cool off yeah. >> cool. often hear two was our

ac. >> she's lived like this for 56 years whereas this out yeah. it's too hot. >> that scary like now it's too hot in there because it's almost almost 100 degrees today yeah. >> i get scared so i i'm scared for my son i was withheld. >> it's not clear when the light up navajo initiative will reach arlene's home until then her family will find refuge from the heat by chasing the shade cast by their home as the sun passes over. ed lavandera, cnn, the navajo nation in new mexico that is a heart wrench or arlene, we're thinking about you. >> we hope you get that relief soon. well, with the paris olympics just weeks away, we are looking back at one of the greatest all-time olympic performances when jesse owens travel to the heart of nazi germany and went home with four

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and a sort of heavyweight battle of long jumpers on august 4, 4, 1936, right under the nose of an in the face of adolf hitler. what unfolded was something that no one would have predicted. my grandfather. and let's long through their competition actually became allies, became friends yes, eventually my grandfather did, when the gold, but let's got the silver. i think just as, or more importantly, what came from that was a bond, a brotherhood between two world-class athletes on the highest stage of their particular event or sport you've referred to him as formerly the fastest man in the world, but he's famous not just because of that in his accomplishments, but because of what he did and where he did it in berlin in front of adolf hitler there may be people watching this interview who don't know much about jesse owens because this olympics was

almost 100 years ago now. so i mean, how would you describe his legacy in its entirety? >> you're right. a lot of people watching may not be as familiar with his accomplishments and those olympics were made particularly famous because those were the olympics in berlin, germany. and of course, hitler's philosophy and mindset was that his area nation was a superior nation tune in that all other nations and all other people were inferior. so my grandfather is accomplishments of four gold medals, was quite a thumb in the eye of his philosophy and i know it added a bit of additional fuel for my grandfather to perform well but primarily he wanted to perform well for him and the united states of america. >> how did that performance in 1936 change the rest of his life and therefore all of our lives within the family most immediately when he returned from the games, it didn't

impact his life as we would imagine, it would nowadays, because he was returning to 1936, united states of america which candidly was not a very good place for black americans so my grandfather's accomplishments, i don't think we're fully recognized and appreciated until later in his life. >> can you remember the first time that you realized that your grandfather was kind of fast and very famous? >> despite growing up as his grandson. it wasn't something that was talked about a whole lot in the family. he was really just a normal everyday grandfather. i did eventually learn that he had at one time been the fastest man in the world. and i remember with that because i was a pretty fast kid as a kid, i thought, well, wouldn't it be neat if i beat in a foot race the former

fastest man in the world. and so i challenge my grandfather to a foot race once. fully expecting to be able to beat them because i was i was probably five. i don't know exactly how old i was at the time, but to me he seemed like an old man, so i figured i could be in an old man and a foot race and we set off, ready set go, and we took off and i thought i had them for a moment, but then he pretty easily caught up to me and pass me and won the race. so i was really upset. sorry that i didn't have a story to tell that i was hoping to be able to tell. to my friends at school that i'd beat the former fastest man in the world in our thanks to don riddell for that would have fun interview that was well, the greatest athletes in the world now have a very good boy to help them deal with stress guess who that might be. >> the u.s. olympic gymnastics teams. well, they have a therapy dog. this right here is

the four-year-old golden retriever named beacon. he was a minneapolis for the olympic trials this week, beacon and his trainer joined erica hill earlier this week though for some, they've said it, it's just a nice, healthy distraction from the intensity of competition for others, it's best it's just a calming experience for them to be able to sit and have hands-on the dog just sometimes they're sometimes they talked to him sometimes it's just quiet moments of them heading. >> there, you jealous of erica forget to do that segment. what a cute little boy. the u.s. is trying to get beacon approved to go to paris and time for the games opening ceremonies are delight 27 thank you so much for joining me this evening. i'm pam lebron. i'll actually see you again tomorrow night starting at five eastern. the

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