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judge in alec baldwin's manslaughter trial handing the defense a significant victory as they are on the eve of jury selection all right. 6:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at the white house on this tuesday morning morning, everyone, i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. the president defiant with his party divided and just a few hours house democrats will meet for the first time in person since joe biden's disastrous debate performance so far, six of them have publicly called for biden to withdraw from the race with some implying that many other democrats privately shared their position that is quite a few. >> they have to come to terms with that on their own. i know it's a tough choice. i suspect you'll be hearing from quite a few this week on monday, president biden went on the offensive, making it clear in

public remarks and private meetings that he intends to stay in the race and expressing anger at those opposing him i'm getting so frustrated by the lease. now i'm not talking about you guys, but bought the leash in the party, who they know so much more with any of these guys, don't think i should run against me go ahead and now, announcer president charles manson convention late last night, biden held a virtual meeting with the congressional black caucus, a source telling cnn, biden, ask them for their support and received no pushback from members on the call later today, democratic senators expected to spend the regular lunch discussing the president's future ahead of today's meetings democrats are far from united this president is fit and prepared to continue to serve. i think you should step aside, but it's support president joe biden and the democratic ticket. >> he already won the nomination. so if there were to be any change, would african from him if he believes fully that he can do this, i will

respect that judgment. my focus, your raising some questions i need to get into a we got to be dark would you give your placed nominee and he's been he's paying his intention all right, our panel's here. let's bring in molly ball, senior political correspondent for the wall street journal for her white house communications director kate bedingfield and jonah goldberg. he is the co-founder and editor in chief of the dispatch. welcome to all of you molly ball. it seems like the president yesterday did. he had a better day? hey, than some of his other days and that he had this he had this letter. he did. we played a little bit of that interview that he did on morning joe had this call with the cbc. there seems to be some shoring up of support there, but he still has high-profile tests looming this week. i'm just wondering what your latest reporting is on where this where this stands and the level of pressure the president is facing right now well, i think i think that interests ended up well, actually, which is that the party is divided and that for a lot of people, a lot of democrats is the worst-case

scenario of people were hoping to get through this one way or another without having the party at odds. >> but now you do have these warring camps emerging where there is a group that is saying let's stop arguing think about this. he said he wants to stay in and it's his decision. and other groups still hoping that they can get to him still feels and i think it's concentrated in the senate in particular we heard a lot of senators yesterday as they trickle back into town saying that they have serious questions that they want answered before they are ready to reopen firm, they're support for the president i don't think it was lost on anybody that all of this work he did to shore up support yesterday was without leaving the house. so people want to see more of him, want to hear more from him, people want answers, particularly in that camp that is still not sure if they can support him going forward. so i think that this is still a very fluid and people will be very much watching the president take part in nato, the nato meetings this week and see how he does there. yes. so speaking of

senators we also had we heard a little bit from senator joe manchin, who had seemed to be one of those people who was eager to get out on this and then was convinced to pull back. but here's a little bit of what he said on monday i think, if you just wait until this weekend, there'll be more comes out. i believe there will be able to have better clear view of what's happening. his health and well-being. i think it should be everyone's first and foremost concern his and his family's and all of us and he's fine. he's been doctors are saying he's fine, so i'm going to take that for its word saying doctors are saying he's fine. >> jonah, we can also put up a list of some of the other things that we have heard from democratic senators that were not on camera, of course reporters were talking to them as they came back on capitol hill. if you guys popped up. so that's john tester. he's in a tough race. biden's burdens got to prove he's up to the job. patty murray biden must do more of that one sticks out to me, merkley serious issues have been raised. tina smith, i have a lot of concerns. dick durbin has a lot of questions. these

are i mean, biden spent so much of his career in the senate. i think molly may be right that this could matter more. what are you? watch him for? yeah. look, i mean what i'm watching for is joe biden i mean, i think molly put her finger on. is that what the white house wants to treat? that they performance as if it was like bill clinton and an intern and event in the past that will shrink in the rearview mirror as you move on. the problem is the event is joe biden joe biden is not going to get better. and the assumption is that like somehow he will not have a another distressing event in public or around enough people in private that they can't keep it secret. i've watched two parents go at that age or younger. i have lots of friends in similar situation, i have to in-laws wind in similar situations the idea that joe biden can run for president and reassure

everybody, everyone's says go out more, go out more, do more stuff, do more live interviews. every good interview doesn't mean a thing. if you know, there's one really bad one coming and the idea that you're going to bet there's not a really bad one coming from a guy who says when he has a good interview, he needs to get more sleep and do fewer things after 8:00 is a wildly irresponsible bet for the country and for the democratic party. >> kate, i kind of wanted to just let you come button here because i know you obviously talking to a lot of democrats. there is so much concern right now. there is this division. how do you feel like things are solidifying or not for the president in this moment and again, i mean, i think jonah's right, everyone supporters of the president. we're watching that debate with bated breath dreading something happening. and now every single appearance is going to be like that. >> i look yes. is he going to have to perform and reassure people and go out and be with voters and show that he has the

energy. he absolutely is. that is the task going to be a big task for him over the next, what, almost four months, a little under four months but look, i think if you look at what's going on on the hill, you see those kind of stalwart support that has been both. there's both the bedrock of the democratic party, but it's also been the bedrock of joe biden's political support. me, you see the cbc standing strong. you see leaders of the chc have come out in support of him if you look back two times in 2019 when his candidacy was imperiled, it was it was black leadership in the party and then black voters who stood behind him and and. so i think he has a strong case to make that he is he is rallying the base of the party and that's important as we move into an election where trump's base is going to be motivated for him, you need somebody who's going to be able to turn their base out. i think he's trying to make the case this week, you can do that. you're seeing some evidence that that's true. we'll see how it plays out this week. i agree with somali that things are fluid, but i think you're seeing that support solidify and for him,

the challenge now is to go out, take the narrative back to trump. we're about to roll into the republican convention next week, get the spotlight back on trump and wage and aggressive campaign. i think president biden can do that, but that's the task ahead of him look i think it's just it's a wildly irresponsible bet and the idea that it's, you know, i get the whole arguments, the base, whatever. >> but like the idea that joe biden, who's a total creature of washington dc political elites. he was he's been in washington for 50 years as a politician is saying that somehow it's him versus the the elites. it's gaslighting on a trumpian level has been derided by the elites. i mean, look at, look at 20:19. he was told he was out of touch with the base of the party. he could never be the nominee. he was told that if i were running against it got him the nomination clearly together. around him to make him the nominee. i'm just saying he spent a lot of his career with a chip on his shoulder about the way that the intellectual thinkers in washington view him he is channeling that right now. that is a very i think you

can argue whether that's fair office saying that whenever he's knocked down, he gets back up and he never count. joe biden that he lost running for president twice there were unique circumstances why he won in 2020, that he cannot recreate, but he's the president united states right now. so he got back to early, became president of united has barely mean, i don't think it's up to the job. i think questioning i'm questioning his fitness right now to serve as president barely barely president, you're suggesting that he's not capable of doing the things that we've seen him accomplish in these, in these past few years, being nothing to me, nothing to me. and it's i think it's a crazy argument. if financial markets financial firms are required by law to say past performance is not predictive of future results that same principle applies to politics if you watch it, george stephanopoulos interview and were reassured that he's up to the job. then i think you kind of in a bubble because that was not reassuring when he says and democrats say this election is about democracy and the future of the country and

then he says, well, if i lose, i gave it my best shot. he can carry think that is a terrible answer. he was clearly prepped and he still gave a terrible the last three years mean nothing to you when you have a president who has gotten more done in a bipartisan way than anybody thought was possible has gotten meaningful gun legislation done, has gotten an infrastructure bill. if he had a heart attack, you say, well, what did the last three that's that's like saying it doesn't it doesn't matter who's president because it doesn't matter what happens when this person is in office that saying that only the campaign is the only thing that matters. i don't think that's true. i don't think that's true. that's then it doesn't pence campaigns are about the future that's fine. i'm just saying saying the last three-and-a-half years don't matter, it all. don't know whether or not he could do the job for the next 4.5 years you honestly think he can serve 4.5 more years? i do. i think that should note attack. i really do. i think it's moon attack, like he can actually serve. you are entitled to i have to say this is a sharp version of the conversation that i know

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first and i haven't made a final decision, but i have some ideas as to where we're going and a little bit, we wanted to see what they're doing to be honest, because, you know, might make a difference. >> i don't know. i'm not sure that it would, but there are those who say trump's waiting until he finds out what's going to happen with crooked joe biden we'll see what happens with biden. but you i think probably within the next week we can have of course, there are a handful of vp hopefuls vying for trump's favor. one of them, florida senator marco rubio, who is scheduled to appear at a rally with trump at his golf club near miami tonight in a recent appearance on cnn, state of the union rubio supported efforts to change the party platform in favor of trump's positions do you support changing the official party platform to trump's position that it should be a state issue well, i think our platform has to reflect our nominee and our nominees position has actually happens to be one grounded. in reality. the reality of it is

the supreme court overturned roe v. wade. and what that basically means is that now it's not states its voters at individual states who will get to decide how and to what level they want to restrict abortion if at all, some states have restrictions, some states will not of course, they're talking about abortion there as rubio noted, jonah goldberg, the trump of it all is, i mean, obviously he's holding off because he's been letting democrats kind of eat their own in the wake of the debate performance. >> but he also is very uncomfortable out of the spotlight. and now we're starting to hear this conversation about how he's trying to grab it back at how if at all do you think what's going on with biden has affected trump's decision on vp or other kind of major ways they're looking at the race. yeah. i do think it's important to remember that he's also dragging out the vp selection process that's because there's more self humiliation. he can impose on the protects potential vps, right? he wants to see them beclowned themselves even more that said look, i think they think it is not dumb to wait

and see how the biden situation plays out. the more convinced i think i think the more convinced trump is that he's going to win, the more likely he picks vance the more he thinks it's going to be a real race it's either burgum or rubio or person x. i still think a total surprise, not on the shortlist that everyone keeps talking about is still possible. i don't know exactly who that would be, but, you know, trump thinks about this like a reality show. what's the big reveal? who's gonna be holding the rows kind of thing, right? >> well think none of us should actually report the vps. so it comes out of trump's mouth because god knows it could change at any moment. alright, up next here, millions of texans in the dark, hurricane beryl delivering a deadly and destructive diplo plus cop president biden's inner circle tried to keep science of his aging under wraps i wouldn't really happen to give land to

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the idea. on too old credit over 15 million jobs in the days since cnn's presidential debate, joe biden has said his performance was an exception. >> one bad night for an otherwise healthy if elderly man interviews that he's done since then have not always buttress that argument, but cnn has now learned they top parkinson's disease specialist held a meeting earlier this year with president biden's physician at the white house. according to visitor logs, that same specialists has visited the white house at least eight times over the past year on monday the press secretary karine jean-pierre, was asked repeatedly about these meetings and she's struggled to answer the questions has the president been treated for parkinson's know is he being treated for parkinson's know? he's not. is he taking medication for parkinson's? no. i'm not going to confirm a specialist any specialists that comes to come to come to the white house? i am not sharing confirming names from here it is a security

reasons. in fact, going to do that, ed it doesn't matter how hard you push me. it doesn't matter how angry you get with me. i'm not going to confirm a name. it doesn't matter if it's even in the log. i am not going to do that from here. i am telling you that he has seen or in a rally just three times while he has been in this presidency that's what i'm saying yeah kate bedingfield, i mean, look, i think this is the central issue at hand on display, which is that there are a lot of american voters out there who don't feel like the understand what's really going on with the president's health and it was very clear that the press secretary didn't have good answers for reporters yesterday. >> yeah. i mean, look, this wasn't a great exchange and talking about it last night i was i was saying, you know, the job of the press secretary is incredibly hard and there oftentimes when you aren't able to put forward information that you as a communicator haitian staffer would argue and probably they were arguing

internally it should be put forward and you're constrained by different other factors that prevent you from being able to say something that seems pretty straightforward however after we were discussing this last night, the white house then put out the letter certainly president biden has not seen her rollo just out side of his physical. many military personnel experience or logical issues related to their service. the doctor regularly visits the white house as part of this general neurology practice, right? so i'm not sure why she couldn't say that at the briefing or why they weren't prepared or hadn't hadn't anticipated that they would get this question and did not arm her or she did not or herself with that very simple explanation why? it's sort of bubbled up into a big combative back-and-forth. i don't i don't really understand why jonah do you think i have no clue? i really don't get it. i do think just sort of getting to my point is that this is going to be replayed over and over and over and over and over again for the next four months because while joe biden wants to put as he put it, a bullseye

on donald trump as long as there are any of these lingering questions and a lot of the white house press corps feels burned by all of this. they're going to make the issue. joe biden's health, whether he's up to the job, whether he's been honest with people, whether people rounded have been honest. and that is can make it very, very difficult to make this campaign a referendum on donald trump, which is the only way even biden people concede. they can win it seems clear that there's so used to being able to obfuscate this issue that they are not prepared for the calls for more transparency. >> and i think on the one hand, you have the transparency issue of what do they know that they're not telling us, right, such as this letter that they belatedly put out after refusing to answer so the question and thinking that they could get away with it, and now they are acknowledging that more information is needed that people do want to know what the nature of these visits was. but there's also the question of whether joe biden is being honest with himself when he said to george stephanopoulos that he hasn't had any of these types of cognitive tests. i think that raised a lot of

questions people of, well, why isn't he given what we have seen, given the questions that so many people have, why not have further testing, why not have more disclosure to put people's worries to rest. and that is also something that doesn't seem to be happy well, one thing too, that biden has asserted present biden has asserted in the wake of this debate is that he is the only person that can beat donald trump is kind of how he's framing it. >> but back in december when he was under pressure about his running for reelection, he he didn't say that let's flash back to that for a second. >> there any democrat would beat donald trump other than you only 50. you do believe that there i'm not the only one, but i will you know, and i just kind of play that as, you know, we've we've shown that this has all played out the way it has. >> and molly, your reporting in the journal to that the inner

circle did work to keep the signs of his aging under wraps. some donor said they wanted to keep their concerns quiet because they didn't want to risk their access or influence. no one wanted to jeopardize a chance to become an ambassador, host a fund-raiser said one la based donor some who have spent time with the president after not seeing him for a while, said they were surprised by how much he had slowed last summer, a former top biden advisor who has met with the president told an associate the meeting was not good and that biden had noticeably aged since they had last seen each other. and of course, you're seeing reflections of, the way this was reported in the press, in the way that the biden team interacted with the press on questions. i mean, it was the journal that wrote this big story about biden's age. a couple of months ago or a month or so ago and it was met with derision. quite frankly, they fired back very aggressively to the point of actually monitoring the interviews are reporters were doing. and then forcing some of those democrats to call us back and revise what they had said. it was a very aggressive effort to control

the narrative and control the story line around this issue. and some of but also was as our story today says just people not wanting to grapple with what they had seen and things looking different in retrospect after the debate. so a lot of people who had interactions with the president that maybe at the time they found a little bit troubling, but weren't sure what to think of or thought might have been a one-off or an anomaly in light of the they have gone back and thought about those interactions and now have further questions. >> yeah. i mean i guess i just keep coming back to this we saw biden there say, oh 050 democrats could beat donald trump. we've also heard biden repeatedly say that beating trump is an existential challenge for democrats. and he seems dug in now that he's the only one that can do it. how is he going to reflect if he loses to donald trump? >> i think in his mind, i know he gave that answer to stephanopoulos where he said, you know, i feel okay. >> and i got to tell thank you.

let his word i guess, but i think for him the way he needs to be thinking about this, if he's powering forward, which it seems like he is, is that's not an option. it isn't an option. this is a campaign that he has to win. he has to do everything in his power to win and so i think for him, if he doesn't view this as an existential site, which i believe he does obviously, you know, look, you gave that answer to george and people got to take it for what it is, but i think based on everything i know about him, i think that he does view this as an existential fight then his attitude has to be losing, isn't an option. but we have to see that in the way that he campaigns. we have to see him out there with some of the vigor that we've seen over the last 48 hours directed at trump, not directed at hill democrats. jonah, you're no fan of donald trump how i mean, what's it like to watch that? i mean, i think for a lot of people that i have spoken to who really above all, they want to be trump. and there are a lot democrats out there who are way more motivated by being

trump than they are by joe biden. know i'm not but it does seem like those are the people that i'm talking to who are angry about what the president is doing? >> yeah. look, i'm one of these people who thinks that the cult of the presidency has become a form of idolatry in this country, where we imbue the presidency with me. so personalize it is essentially a monarch democracy. in, america historically is contest between parties, not necessarily personalities and joe biden is not that important if the democrats believe and i think a lot of them sincerely do that. this is an existential threat to democracy and all that stuff. whether i think some of that is overblown or not, doesn't matter. the only relevant question to ask is, what is our best shot at winning and saying we owe it to joe biden, that he deserves this deserves gotten nothing to do with it. and neither is the last three-and-a-half years. what matters is what's

happening, what whether you can do the job next, and whether it can do their job for the next four months as a campaigner and as a president and whether he can serve as four more years as president and i think that there were a lot of people who are getting caught up in a motion in all of this, and including joe biden, who's digging in and sees it as a personal affront and i think it is a slow moving disaster for the democratic party all right, up next here, former democratic congressman max rose of new york joins us to discuss this this divided democratic party and president biden's candidacy plus in round up a plan to give new parents a cash bonus for having a baby more breaking news, we need to share with you this morning. multiple wildfires burning and the texas panhandle a government shutdown is still on the calendar cnn news central. next eid.

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800 a31, 3,700 hundred all right. 47 minutes past the hour. here's your morning round up today. jury selection begins in the involuntary manslaughter trial of actor alec baldwin the actor accidentally shot and killed a cinematographer on the set of the movie rust, a judge ruled yesterday that baldwin's role as a producer of the film will not be considered during the trial closing arguments resume this morning in the corruption trial of senator bob menendez on monday, prosecutors called the new jersey democrat a quote, bribed man and quote, who sprang into action for cash and gold california's lake fire is still only 8% contained after burning more than 21,000 acres since igniting a few days ago, the neverland ranch made famous by michael jackson is in the official evacuation zone. yeah and a new ballot measure spearheaded by a group of baltimore teachers would give parents a $1,000 bonus for having a baby if it passes the

bill is designed to combat child poverty. an estimated 31% of school aged children are experiencing poverty in baltimore alright. turning back to this get on board or shut the cup, it is not a particularly compelling pro democracy bumper sticker nor is money going to do contestants on. the bachelor 11 even met yet that will get married and divorced between now and the a little perspective there from mr. stuart on capitol hill, president biden is trying to stave off more defections among democrats who are trying to determine whether 119 days is in fact it's enough time to replace him on the party's 2024 ticket. democratic lawmakers remain divided, some continuing to back the president, while six publicly and even more in private or calling for the president to step aside as

anxieties mount over changing voters sentiments about the president after that debate, performance we just need fresh leadership, new leadership i like joe biden as a person, you know, i think he stands for good things, but i'm just not sure he's he's there anymore to lead the country. >> i think that's last week hurts so much that he's really got to think of the party and the country for he thinks of themselves. >> i mean, it's something's got to change. we need a logical party all right, joining me now is former democratic congressman max rose of new york congressman. >> thank you so much for joining us. and you know, you are standing behind the president. you wrote an opinion piece about the president's morning joe interview yesterday, you called it, quote, exactly what everyone had been waiting and wanting to see from the president. and quote, just great politics. and that that interview will be a market shift. the catalysts that the president's campaign

needed so i've tracking you thought that this was good this clearly seemed aimed at your former colleagues on capitol hill do you think that the president has done enough at this point to put his age concerns to rest. and i guess i'd put it this way when he walks to a microphone or a podium, do you feel 100%? thank confident. will you feel 100% confident that he's not going to have another episode like the one he had on the debate stage look, i think it's important to actually reconsider the way we're framing this campaign. >> these concerns will never go away and guess what? the concerns were there? for the debate? and despite those concerns, there is a resounding belief in joe biden's capacity to lead and his extraordinary record. but i would definitely urge the campaign too. really have this deep sense of

vigilance and to stay hyper aggressive and to be old school what you saw yesterday morning, joe was the president, just calling in and doing a freewheeling interview? i think that's what the people are looking for. some of the anger on capitol hill right now is actually not associated with the debate, but associated with the silence of the campaign in the days after the debate. so they certainly should not go back to that point or to any sense of complacency that they've got to keep pushing forward so speaking of how they're handling things now at karine jean-pierre was at the podium yesterday with reporters who were trying to get a pretty basic question answered about whether the president had been seen by a parkinson's specialist who was on the visitor logs is going to see his personal physician. >> here was a little bit of what karine jean-pierre said in response to those questions i am not sharing confirming names

from here it is a security reasons. i'm not going to do that, ed. it doesn't matter how hard you push me. it doesn't matter how angry you get with me. i'm not going to confirm a name. it doesn't matter if it's even in the law i am not going to do that from here do you want an answer to those questions? they did put out a statement afterward, but she could not say when she was standing there yeah. i'm sure everybody to include kareem herself regrets that interview. right there's really no issue here as it pertains to the president's health that doesn't require the ultimate form of transparency by the way, though so that also applies to donald trump and his own health. we're not talking when it when it comes to him to a particularly young man or someone that would strike anybody as saying or consistent so i would certainly urge the white house to be transparent

and not ever get back into that type of back-and-forth. and i think the fact that they put out a notice after that press conference shows that they agree with that sentiment. but look, this whole notion that there's questions around whether or not joe biden is the nominee. that's going to go away in the neck a couple of days. i think even the most vociferous opponents of the president in congress right now on the democratic side agree that when joe biden is the settled nominee, they're going to get significantly behind him at that point, the attention it has got to focus, refocus on the extraordinary liar, the fraud that is donald trump and all the ways in which he is a danger to the values that we hold dear. and i suspect that at the conclusion of this week, the democrats will be able to unify and refocus their messaging on that exact issue

briefly, sir, do you really think it's plausible that president biden can now defeat donald trump in the fall absolutely. >> it's plausible. and you know what, what's ironic in a way, is because the president's campaign was by no means perfect. well, i've been think up to par in the run-up to the debates. and i think there's a good chance of what we're going to see in the coming months is a freewheeling joe biden doesn't have the shackles of an overbearing campaign. staff or whitehouse but able to go direct to the people that i don't need it you know, hold unquote elitist forms of any type and you might see a cafe and i think you're likely to see a campaign that's even more successful. >> all right, former congressman max rose. thanks very much for your time this morning. i really appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me all right. >> i want to talk to the panel now about this democratic strategist, james carville, arguing that it is only a

matter of time before president biden drops his reelection bid. carville wrote this new york times quote, mark my words. joe biden is gonna be out of the 2024 presidential race, whether he is willing to ready to admit it or not, we need to move forward, but it can't be by anointing vice president kamala harris or anyone else is the presumptive democratic nominee. we've got to do it out in the open the exact opposite of what donald trump wants do panel is back, molly ball. this does seem to be a little bit, you know, he says, well, the president is out, even if he doesn't know it it's up to the president and the president seems pretty dug in, excuse my language. he does he does and this is, i think as democrats in the house and senate meet today there's going to be a lot of discussion about where to go from here because they had hoped that they could get to him subtly, you know, send messages where you sort of read between the lines they're not saying anything, they might regret later, but they're offering him a gentle nudge and it became clear over the past week that that was not going to work because that he was that

he is digging in and frankly, some people feel that he he's being irresponsible in the way he seems to be putting the party at risk here, whether it's by insisting on not just insisting on staying on the ticket, but the insults that he is lobbing at the people who are trying to get them to stay the way that he's dividing the party potentially on class and racial lines while the arguments that he's making these are potentially damaging whichever way this turns out whether he is or is not the nominee. come november and so potentially this could be entering a very ugly phase because there are a lot of democrats who are not ready to simply declare this episode over and get on board. but you do have a faction in the party that is saying we do we need to stop talking about this and i just don't think it's going to go away anytime soon i mean, honestly, jonah democrats need anti-trump republicans as well to join with them if they want to win in november and i just

really struggled to see how they get over this. i didn't do i think it's a hot mess. i mean, i don't i don't one of. the reasons why the republican party was taken over by an allen trump, and we're now seeing how the republican platform is just basically becoming long truth social post and one of the reasons why joe biden can be in there and stick it out. i think wildly irresponsibly is because the parties are so unbelievably week. we have strong partisanship in this country because we have weak parties that cannot police their own. the cannot think about their long-term value of their brand, their fiduciary obligations to all of their candidates that cannot invest in the sort of decision-making mechanisms that gives them control over how to run at campaign and election and this is what you get, is you get things reduced to fits of peak from two very old men who should have no, it should not be on the public stage anymore kate bedingfield, this circle back to this carville

op-ed, carlos obviously been on the stage quite a long time as well, in which he has been out there like to say is like, i've said, no business running an election campaign anymore. >> but you heard i think the president laughed yesterday when he was asked about david axelrod's criticism, for example all how does something like this land in the white house i look, the president is not going to be persuaded by that. we can argue about whether that's a good thing or not. we are arguing about whether that's a good thing or not. but, i know he's not going to he's not going to take a look at that, didn't say and changed his calculus. i think he believes he has a path to victory, i think based on the support that he has been able to generate the democratic party and the success that he had with moderate swing voters in 2020 shows that there is a path for him. he's got to work to get there. i think if the election were tomorrow, he'd been a lot of trouble, but i think he has a lot of work to do. i think he can do it. and i'm not sure that a flight of fancy of fantasy football notion about how we should run this would, would be practical

in the real-world. all right, fair enough all right. i want to leave you with this little palate cleanser, taylor swift, and the chiefs tight end, travis kelce, marking an era for them. one here ago this week, kelce went to see her concert at the chief's home stadium in kansas city with a friendship bracelet featuring his phone number. it's a story that he told on his brother, on their popular podcast. >> i was disappointed that she doesn't talk before or after her shows because she has to save her voice for the 44 songs that she sings. so i was a little butt-hurt. i didn't get to handre one of the bracelets i made for misconnection, eventually made its way to swift. the rest is history. she became a fixture at his games, including the chiefs super bowl victory in february. of course, he's been a regular attendee at her era's tour shows, making an appearance as a backup dancer show in london just a few weeks ago banning himself, kelce side gig may have to