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is the panic in the democratic party now turning into a kind of paralysis tonight on laura coates live so after days of now staying low donald trump finally emerge tonight in florida. he was downright almost giddy that democrats appear to be divided over president biden's future as their nominee the radical left democrat party is divided and chaos and having a full scale break down all because they can't decide which of the air candidates is more unfit to be president sleepy crooked. >> joe biden or laffin kamala well, actually her name is kamila, but somewhere deep down inside i know that former president trump knows how to pronounce her name. >> now, the reason democrats are divided at the moment is because they desperately want to make sure that the person

who was just speaking, donald trump, does not win in november but what, 12 days now since the debate, the party does not seem to be fully and comprehensively convinced that biden is capable of winning now there was a bit of a shift today after democrats met in private and some who were previously skeptical they came out and say that they are supporting biden and full throatedly. but there are still some who appear to be on the fence. and according to sources, senators jon tester and sherrod brown and michael bennett told their colleagues today that they doubt the biden can win. as senator bennet. well, he expanded on that tonight on cnn donald trump is on track. i think to win the selection. and maybe win it by a landslide and take with him the senate and the house, the white house in the time since that disastrous debate, i think has done nothing to really demonstrate they have a plan to win the selection now, let's be clear, bennett did not call for

president biden to step down at the top of his ticket. and in fact no senator has done that. and those public calls so far i've only come from the house. you've got congresswoman making cheryl today became the seventh house democrats say that biden needs to exit the race now, just to put all this into perspective, there are 200 and 213 democrats in the house, 213 the number seven doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of a majority or really even make you think it's statistically significant? at that congresswoman, she cited hearing from voters who said that they want a leader who was quote, able to turn the nation's attention to the urgent threat that trump presents to our democracy, to our freedoms, and to our country. she told reporters that she thanks and thanks vice president harris would be fantastic nominee if biden stepped out and in fact, harris today in nevada did exactly what she wants the ticket to be doing donald trump wants to turn our democracy into a

dictatorship. trump's advisers have created a 900 page blue to print. they're calling project 2025 detailing everything else they plan to do in a second term including a plan to cut social security to repeal are $35 cap on insulin do we eliminate the department of education well, meanwhile, president biden, while he's busy precedenting living off forceful speech at the high-stakes nato summit in defense of democracy and in support of ukraine ukraine can and will stop putin especially large full collective support may have our full support as he

this is the part that strikes me and many people as a bit odd, this question of how you unring a bell at this point, by my count, we're president biden has spoken wet more than 16 times now since bait and nothing close the criticism we're concerns that were raised at the debate have even remotely appeared. >> yet, we are still getting reporting from some democrats that more is needed by him to prove something. and many are complaining about a double standard whereby trump's missteps and there are many are not judged in the same universe by his own party as biden's the goal post seems to move again for biden's critics and the next test is two days away. and what the white house says will be some kind of a big boy press conference a kind of unscripted event. the democrats have been urging him to hold an effort to maybe put all of this far in the rearview mirror. but you had the new york times snipe and they're reporting that some quote, party loyalists are now hoping for a

serious stumble at that event in order to convince biden to drop out and see call me a skeptic. but if that's true, was the debate performance even a real concern or some convenient pretextual excuse? and how will voters judge all of this in the end? well, joining me now, vocal supporter of president biden and democratic congresswoman jasmine crockett. she is also a member of the congressional black caucus, congresswoman. thank you so much for being here this evening, but there are so many issues and it's very high-stakes. we are 100 and what 18 days away from a presidential election? voters want to be hearing about immigration. they want to be hearing about project 2025. they want to hear about the economy. there's a laundry list of things and yet there is still reporting that is coming out that suggests that at this crucial time all democrats are not on the same page about biden being the messenger to convey all of these it's things. do you think that you

have the right messenger to counterpoint all the things republicans are saying to try to get him out of the oval office. >> listen, i think even a school child can do the messaging because the republicans have not only laid it out in their manifesto known as project 20 25 of what they want to do. but they've actually been doing good. i've been arguing that project 2025 has been underway. they have talked about cutting social security and medicaid and medicare. these are things they've talked about repealing the affordable care act. it's only been democrats they'd have pushed back and highlighted those things. they're talking about, things such as making sure that there's a nationwide abortion ban. and you saw that they got a little rattled. so just a couple of days ago, they said, well, let's change the platform. it's been 40 years strong and the republican platform. but let's take it out because we already got it in project 2025. anyway right. we know that there now going to go after contraception. we know that everything that they claim

that they want to do in project 2025, a lot of it has already been underway. the problem is that we have colleagues that are scared of their own shadow. number one, they are not thinking clearly or they have their own specific motives and why they are not standing by the president. but if if republicans can stand by somebody with 34 felony convictions who incited an insurrection, and then republicans said, you know what, don't believe your line as those were just patriots on a tour, then i'm sorry. we can look at what the president was going through because he was not sitting in a criminal courthouse or chilling at mar-a-lago. instead, he was tired because he had been out in the streets on the road taking his message directly to the people and honestly, i don't think that any presidential campaign runs just on the person at the top of the ticket, you played a clip of the vice president for everybody that says that they are so in love with the vice

president, which i have some questions about some of these people. but nevertheless, she is on the ticket. if that's who you want to vote for, vote for because if anything happens, there is an unnatural succession plan in the fact that she is the vice president. if you don't want to vote for joe, vote for camila. she's on the ticket, but at the end of the day, we have to win it's not joe and camila that or the enemy. it's not them that are the threat. it's this supreme court that will become worse. it's also maga that is proven themselves to be ineffective and ignore the people we know congresswoman, you make a very compelling case as you often do, some of the concerns people have is they want to hear that compelling argument being made universally. and yet, you do have colleagues across the senate who are not in the same vein that you're speaking of, who we're not talking about, the laundry list of concerns that you have raised or the reasons that many people are hoping that trump will not be in office now, it's voter's decision to make that call but

what you're intimating about the motive as to why they're not, why are they afraid of their own shadow? what is the reason that if 118 days from now and biden is saying he's not going anywhere and it will assume that's true based on fact. he said he's not but why aren't they on the same bandwagon less than politicians are going to be politicians. now must start with that. also, democrats like consistently looking for perfection and i've got news forum. it doesn't exist on this earth. they want the absolute perfect candidate, but they aren't thinking this all the way through. what type of precedents will sit that you have a democratic process. you go through a primary, you have millions of people. they vote, and then you say, well, wait a minute, the polling is bad. we need to go ahead and throw this person now that is not what we do especially when he has a record to run on. this, isn't just a matter of propping up any old democrat. we're talking about somebody who has 50 years worth of a record to run on. and after a 90 minute debate in which he provided

more substantive for the american people than donald trump could ever wish to provide when people say the number one issue is the economy. and this guy decided that he was going to ignore every economic question. yet the president has a plan for those people that are saying, you know what housing costs are too high. he wants to provide a stimulus but he can't do it by himself because at least until the other day, we don't have kings, we have a democracy. so you need team blew in place. you need a democratic house, you need hakeem jeffries as the speaker of the house. you need to have a democratic senate and you need a democratic president. if we're going to get thing down for the american people, what congressman that congresswoman, excuse me. the concern and what i'm hearing from reporting. and like i said, it's been 12 days now since this debate. yeah. and the drumbeat seems to be steady. it's also being talked about by republican to talking points are clear, they're accusing democrats of doing some of the things that democrats accused republicans

of having done in the past. number one, they're suggesting that democracy be, they're in support of one person, that there are get his gaslighting going on for the american people but there's not transparency and their medical, and the medical records and that somehow you are lying to the american public for political gain. what do you say to all of these talking point that frankly, they are out there and voters, you know? our always inherently skeptical about the political process. the couch is always an option for voters. sadly what do you say to them, who are hearing those republican talking points and saying? what's your response? yet, consider the source is the first thing that i say, you know, listen, republicans will say and do anything. they will lie as we know that donald trump lied over 30 times in a 90 minute debate. and so until they actually provide receipts i'm a neat them the pipe down and that's what you need to start requiring because we know that the republicans are

consistently pushing misinformation and disinformation. they just need an opening, right? the fact that joe may slip here are many say the wrong thing there. and if people run the record on joe haven't necessarily been the guy they didn't make gaps. in fact, i think that that's been part of the problem that his team is so nervous and they have tried to keep him in this bubble. but if we think back to when he was vice president, joe biden was making gaffes back then, we'll i don't want to cut you off, but gaffes are not something exclusive to president joe biden and statements. and certainly during the debate, and thereafter, and he will in the future again, former president trump will make those same mistakes as well. but i do wonder when, when voters are looking at the different ways in which the parties react to it. yeah. you don't oh, have republicans coming out, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing talking about their candidate stepping down. you do have some members of your own colleagues talking about it.

what do you say to voters who are hearing this and saying, well, you want me to trust, but you don't have one united front in front of the cameras? no, i absolutely can understand any voters level of concern and at the end of the day, i need voters to just decide, are you going to vote in your best interests? and what is your best interest? and while we have so many distractions that are going on and so much noise at the end of the day, there is a real existential threat that exist in the idea that trump has a supreme court that belongs to him in the idea that trump plans to put two more supreme court justices on the court in the fact that we have lost so many freedoms and guess what, they are trying to make sure that we lose even more freedoms at the end of the day. this never should have been about one individual. it should be about which team is looking out for me i can guarantee you that when you look at it, when you look at the fact that we don't have a farm bill because the republicans have decided they want to cut 30 billion

from snap benefits when people only get $6 they to eat from snapping in the first place, you have a party that has sided with the supreme court. this said it is ok to criminalize homelessness and it's okay for people to go hungry in the streets of america if that's the america that you feel like it's great. can you do have a candidate and you do have a party that will give you all of that hail, but i'm telling you right now that that is not what i consider to be greatness, and that's not living up to the promise of america, the beautiful so you have an option. it may not be the perfect options that you were looking for, but i can guarantee you one is closer to knocking on the doors of heaven and the other is absolutely going straight to hell. congresswoman jasmine crockett, as always, thank you for being here. >> thank you look, there is no question that we are in uncharted territory here. >> so i want to charted that basically every democratic dragus with the platform is throwing ideas against the wall

of what they think will happen. what they think should happen, what might it happened next? and some say that president biden is still the best bet going forward. you've heard it from congresswoman jasmine crockett here this evening. now, others are calling for him to make room for vice president kamala harris, someone a group of party leaders to decide who's the best to go against trump. and then there are those floating something like some kind of a mini primary. and what exactly would that look like surprise, surprise. there's no consensus there either but since we're in the realm of the total unknown, it's really fantasy land when it comes to proposals for what it could possibly look like and some kind of like this happy hunger games and may the odds be ever in your favor? others, maybe more like this but let's

get them work bit more specific. you know, i love a good movie reference. starting with one from veteran democratic strategist james carville let's call it the town hall primary. now he wants the democratic party as a whole four townhalls one in each region of the country. but get this, he wants barak obama and bill clinton to lead those discussions. and that's not all so carville also suggests the two former presidents have united states select eight leading contenders to participate? at the convention. delegates will hold a formal vote for the best candidate then there's the plan. well, from jon stewart and i'm calling it the sales pitch primary. here's how he explains it. >> we could get everybody to fly into some midwestern town. maybe like one adjacent to important swing states. let's call it chicago and they could

spend i don't know four days there because nobody works friday's anymore on monday anybody who wants to give their sales pitch of how they can make democracy more responsive to the people. it is supposed to serve. you can bang it out the window, could move on to the next round and then face biden they could face biden. biden had a by wednesday would be an off day bus tour to find the restaurant from the bear thursday, the party emerges energized unified sanctified. you could televise the entire proceeding for four days. you could call it. i don't know the apprentice well that may sound somewhat organized really narrowing down a pool of candidates bracket style, ultimately, the final face off against biden but there is the other end of the spectrum more like that gladiator battle i showed you. >> will charlemagne tha god proposing what essentially

amounts to a convention free for all. he says, any democrat who wants to should make good on biden's threat to take them on all are here in eagle and i hope they take him up on his offer. every single democrat will feels like you noted democrats can win and president biden is the nominee needs to challenge him into convincing let's bring in former senior advisor to the bernie sanders 2016 and 2020 presidential campaign. chuck rocha, with a hat that looks really good. also, former congressman from pennsylvania, charlie dent and congressional reporter for the hill mychael schnell, glad to have you all with me. he i'm sorry with you. i complimented that. although you guys have good too. thank you. thank you. there. go check on me. ask you about this. first of all the absurdity of the different throw spaghetti on the wall and see if that might stick. i mean, this is not for years out from a presidential lectures not even really a full half a year from it. we're talking about 100 plus days away from election. and i wonder how will this all play out? is any of

this realistic or people in la-la-land? >> i think a lot of them are in lala land. we have a process, we have a democratic nominee unless he decides he doesn't want it because we went through a primary already. i've been to every democratic conventions that was the youngest delegate from the great state of texas in 1996, when i still had here and could fitted some totter genes, understand it was a long time ago but nothing has changed in the process. we pick the nominee in, the nominee gets to be the nominee until they decide they don't want to be. and everybody else is out here just trying to figure it out what to your point. i think they're hurting him the more this goes on, the more they're going to damage him. the best thing that's going on for joe biden right now is he gets to run against donald trump if he was running against some 80s movie star back to your movie references from the 90s where the harry can yes. and a great mustache. it'd be different, but he's running against donald trump. so he can still win this in the longer this goes on, the more damage we're doing to joe biden is tom selleck suddenly everything is okay. i are with you never move on i get here you been in the halls of congress and you've

been covering this. i do wonder about, and i was asking congresswoman jasmine crockett about this if democrats themselves are the ones to be putting out there, there are concerns and they're concerned about the down-ballot races as well. what are you hearing in the halls of congress about how this is impacting those races as well. >> it's still an open question i was, for example, i was talking to a house democrat just earlier today who told me he that they think biden should step aside as the nominee, but they're not coming public yet because they first want to look at some of this polling to see if biden at the top of the ticket is going to drag down some of these lawmakers who are running for reelection and put the house in jeopardy. now, i will note that this lawmaker said that july 4 was sort of a tough time to do something that post-debate polling, because people are off, they're on vacation, but he says that folks are waiting to see what the numbers look like, what the data looks like, to see if president biden is really an issue for those down-ballot candidates. now he said, if they are, they're going to come out publicly and say that

we need to move on because look with the house, possibly going for foreign president trump, especially death for that debate, the senate looks like it's in republican hands next year that helps could be the only firewall left to prevent that trifecta in washington house lawmakers are very aware of that dynamic and they want to make sure that they're not throwing away, they're throwing away a potential majority for months out. >> what's really frustrating for voters and everyone is the idea of this public, private dynamic. we've seen this for years. republicans have criticized a great deal about this very point about how in private they were all critical of trump. and then in public they were all supportive of. now obviously, i'm being hyperbolic in generalizing on that point. but you get my drift. the same thing is playing out with democrats and i wonder which is true. well, the real slim shady, please stand up on this point. i want to know what republicans are saying behind the scenes. you think, knowing how much they were criticized on this front i think republicans are enjoying their schadenfreude a moment right now. they're going to be

as quiet as they can because they want they want joe biden to be the democratic nominee because i see him as extremely damaged, but you're right and even before this debate, i've said for a long time behind closed doors, republicans would tell you, yes, we don't like trump. he's terrible, he's crazy. we need a different nominee publicly. it's go team democrats. they privately yet, joe biden's too old, he shouldn't be our nominee. publicly. go team. well, then the debate happens and what we've seen is both parties really have not listened to the american people who are telling them that one candidate is too old. and ones too dangerous. and so the parties nominated these two folks that we're in this conundrum where democrats know that the reason for their party is to actually advance candidates who can get elected and these down-ballot races, they want a win and they realize that joe biden now is an impediment to them winning the house and the senate and probably the presidency. and that's why they're going through this. and the members in these frontline districts, these battleground districts are the ones who are going to have to speak up so far it's

been guys like mike quigley and lloyd doggett were good people, but they are in very safe seats there when their election, no matter what jasmine crockett, she's gonna win an election either way but these they need to listen, put more weight into those folks who are really on the cusp the ones who are really at risk we'll see if that happens this week you know, i do wonder about it was a comment that was made by congressman congresswoman jasmine crockett about the lack of enthusiasm and we all talked about in terms of maybe prior races voters are not having the same at least outward enthusiasm, but she was talking about vice president kamala harris, who's been out on the trail and xi he seems to be the person who is bringing the not foil to president biden, but she is distinct and unique in her approach and messaging, and she is out there publicly. >> do you think that she is? going to be able to carry a lot of the water for now as all of this similar sound she's going to have to, and it's not surprising to me that you heard some smart from a great woman, from the great state of texas back to that theme from dallas. that's where ms crockett is

from this, make sure everybody gets that straight up. what we're seeing in the house is a little bit different. and what i'm seeing, i'm actually one of those old school commentators who still work on races every single day and in polling and focus groups, folks are separating their house boat from the president is a president and some trouble in some places absolutely. but the congressman's themselves, the republican congress has went to the forest, were the biggest congress who haven't done anything in the history of doing anything in congress, congress has not very popular. probably the only thing less popular than donald trump or president biden. no disrespect to the former congress because i'm sure they were very popular. but this 18 popular at all. and so folks are looking for other alternatives. >> well, we'll have to see what the alternatives might be, right now. this is the ticket and until i hear otherwise, this is the ticket and we'll see what the voters really think about it when they turn out to vote. thank you so much. all of you. well, the next question i have is does marco rubio's appearance at tonight's trump rally tell us anything about his vp pete chances, and how it is jd vance is beard play into the veepstakes i'm bringing out the details on it next so i hear

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its closed. the campaign sees monday as the deadline to make his choice. and so far, we know the short list includes ohio senator jd vance the right to cota governor doug burgum, and florida senator marco rubio. and tonight, rubio was with trump at his rally in doral, florida. trump building suspense and saying this about the press to his potential vice president, listened look at all of them back there. oh it's a lot. marco that's a lot. martha i think they probably think i'm going to be announcing the market is going to be vice president because that's a lot of press that's a lot of press we had a vicious campaign for a while and he was tuffen. he was smart and i got to really know him well over the years and he's a fantastic guy, senator marco rubio. marco

well, i want to bring in marc caputo, who is a national political reporter at the bulwark, and he was at tonight's trump rally. >> i got to ask you mark, first of all, with that moment, i mean, what does it tell you that rubio was with trump night at that rally and actually got some compliments from them more coincidence than it is sort of stagecraft that is, this rally was planned number of months ago for this period of time and rubio lives 15 17 minutes drive away from the doral golf course in the miami area. >> so if rubio wasn't there, it would really send a message. she will really sort of been a suspicious or eyebrow raising. but otherwise, you know, this is just kind of donald trump being donald trump. we didn't really expect donald trump to name his vice presidential running mate. he's probably going to wait as long as possible. one of the reasons that donald trump doesn't want to do it now, he not only doesn't have to, but you're

joe biden and democrats are engaged in the mutual self-destruction loop, right now of just reinforcing negative stories about each other the democrats who wanted to resign him digging in, causing them to want him to resign more or their selves leave the race and trump doesn't really want to step on those headlines. he prefers to let joe biden just catch on fire or democrats catch on fire as he sits back and watches. >> well, certainly the second he announces, who his running mate will be. the scrutiny the spotlight perhaps the raf, and the praise will all come down on that person as a direct comparison will be made between whoever he chooses and vice president kamala harris. and we know that that is probably what he's trying to delay. and there's somebody who wasn't there tonight, but it's senator jd vance and when it comes to him in particular, you have reporting out that there might be one key reason that trump might not pick them to be

the by pete me up and i can't help it kind of smirk a little bit at this point as i touched my own face for some reason, it has to do with his appearance what's going on don't trump doesn't like facial hair all the guys that he has working around them are clean-shaven. >> in fact, john bolton is former national security adviser, sort of squeaked in the, you know, under the radar with a mustache. and i talked to him about it for my story. so this is a buzz in trump world. look, you know, trump doesn't like facial hair. jd vance has this beard. and who knows, maybe it will be hang-up for trump. now, the wait time she do we know why he has this? it's just one of those things okay. >> just doesn't like it. in fact, his son, don junior, in 2020 had a podcast or he had his dad on that. the president to talk to you on father's day? donald. trump told a sunlike, i would like to be at least a year so well-documented thing

it's just one of his things. now that having been said, i mean, he's certainly probably going to overcome his aversion to the beard if he does pick jd vance. jd vance does seemed like a consensus favorite. it's either him or doug burgum kind of the insiders and the predictive betting markets are suggesting with rubio and third, but you never really know what trump is going to do until he does or who he's going to choose until he announces who chooses. one thing about vance's beard? is that it does make him look a little older, a little more rugged of vance is 39-years-old. he turns 40 next month if chosen, if elected, he would be the third youngest vice president to serve in history. and trump wants his vice president, who at least sort of looked the part will be a little more season perhaps a bigger knock on vance. is that he's only been in politics, has only been in the u.s. senate for two years. he doesn't have as much experience as either burgum are rubio. and as far as being

vetted, no candidate in the republican side except for trump has been as vetted as marco rubio was a three-term senator and also someone who ran against trump in 2016. and what you played their trump and pointed out was a pretty vicious and brutal race. >> yet, senator jd vance, even with that limited experience compared to trump, has more in politics than trump did when he secured his first nomination. marc caputo. thank you so much for joining me this evening. we'll see who he picks. were all waiting to see and of course, there is the one who will actually officially pick the democratic nominee. we know not all dnc delegates are united in supporting biden in two with different views. join me next i love milwaukee cnn is live from milwaukee as republicans unite behind their nominee, his vp, and their plans to take back the white house follow cnn for complete coverage. the republican

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guys, don't think i should run against me now announced for president, challenge manhunt convention with me now to dnc delegates with different views. rishi kumar, who believes biden should step aside and will jawando who believes biden should stay in the race? well, let me begin with you here. i mean, you've been around biden throughout his career, even at the white house within the last few weeks. and we know you fort biden. do you have any concerns look, i think one thing that was true before the debate was that americans have concerns about the age of both candidates, right? >> and obviously once a criminal ones done everything right in his presidency, i worked for brock obama and vice president biden this presidency of the president biden and vice president harris has been successful on all accounts. the economy is doing better we've come out of covid infrastructure, gun control, go down the list but those concerns are valid, right? people see someone that had an

issue at the debate but he's going to beat donald trump. he has the delegates you just showed it, look at his schedule, the last eight days since the debate, he's been all over the place, black church in philadelphia going all the way 24 hours schedule. he had a bad night. he's admitted that he's got the delegates we need to rally around him and they are a team. this is the thing that people forget. vice president harris. so you had earlier in the show, it's the biden-harris ticket they are a team. they're going to win together. they're going to govern together. that's the strongest team, the sycophants that trump's going to put forward to implement project 2020 five, to take away my daughter's rights and your kids rights. that's what we're fighting against in president biden has demonstrated that he can do it well it rishi, let me turn to you because you told cnn that us started researching democratic national committee rules for placing a candidate a year ago, you're researching that, tell us why you think biden should step aside well

firstly, i think president biden had promised that he would run for a single term and you remember that. and clearly he's held is failing potential parkinson's and just to be clear, i don't want to i want you to finish your response, but just to be clear, the white house did put out a statement just last night from a doctor explaining why there had been been hit by a neurological specialist to the white house. and as part of an annual exam, he had met with one, but there is no indication of parkinson's. but please finish your point yes. >> so essentially, if biden ends up running potentially, the democrats could lose the senate, the house, and the white house and it's gonna be a bloodbath. the blue states that we have held for many decades. might potentially turned red. trump is doing well when he runs against biden in those states and then the swing states, the battleground states. they're looking terrible. so at this point, all

the polling indicates that trump is going to win. we need to send the best and the brightest are there to run against trump. he's, he's beatable, but we need to send somebody who has got the energy of a commander in chief here in silicon valley. we have had great leaders and companies thrive because of good leaders. at this point, it's debatable if biden can, can lead our nation carrying the nuclear football is a huge deal and you're not sure right now if biden's going to be able to do his job are you concerned well, in hearing the concerns that russia has raised, i mean, 14 million people, did vote for president biden. they believed that he should be the person at the top of the ticket that obviously the presidency of a matter of extraordinary consequence but you can turn that having delegates possibly not vote in favor would undermine the democratic process. >> will look, i signed the loyalty pledge. i was elected

in the state of maryland to be a biden delegate. i presented myself as a biden delegate. i think there is that issue, depending on how how the delegates are found in different in different states but look, i think with all due respect to rishi, he's in the severe severe minority. i think most, if not all, of the delegates that are going to show up in a few weeks to chicago. that are pledged to president biden are going to vote for president biden and he will be the nominee unless he chooses not to be the nominee. it is his decision as you had previous guests on he would have to step out. these scenarios that are put forward. i think are were for months away. the president had a bad night in some of the polls, in some of the swing states, yes, some of them aren't as good as we'd want to see, but there hasn't been a major change in the top line polls and the margin of the margin of error in some, if you look at wisconsin the independents actually, it's doing a little better. so i think he's going to be the nominee. he should be

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charger khloie liber mays fiance had grabbed it from the bedroom wall of their airbnb, thinking it was hers the airbnb host had called us on the phone and told us that we had taken a charge or that did not belong to us and that we needed to return it immediately. at what point did you think? this isn't really a charger? >> he became increasingly paranoid when am i getting this charge are back? i think it was like a light bulb moment that we all just went oh my goodness. is this a hidden camera across north america? police have seized thousands of images from hidden cameras at airbnb rentals, including people's most intimate moments. what happened when you realize that there was a camera in that charter it's so eerie and so creepy, then your brain starts thinking what did they see? what we're, what happened while we were in that room in a small town in maine, a couple

found a hidden camera at their airbnb listen to what the host told police. >> they had sex and you recorded that took some screenshots. the host admits he set up a camera hidden in this clock next to the bed to record unsuspecting guests there there are there's a couple of couple a couple playing around are getting changed. >> so okay. so there's there's pictures of people that are in intimate situation yes. >> okay. >> it's more than just a few reported cases. an airbnb knows it's a problem in this deposition reviewed by cnn and airbnb rep. said 35,000 customer support tickets about security cameras or recording devices had been documented over a decade. airbnb told cnn a single complaint can involve multiple tickets and a cnn investigation found airbnb not only fails to protect its guess

it works to keep complaints out of the courts and a wave from the public why don't we know about this? >> they're trying to keep it secret. and if everyone knew what was happening they would not be using their website. >> airbnb wants to wash their hands, clean when they have a host who does something illegal or suspicious, they want to say we are simply a website we are not responsible for this host. we are not responsible for this property florida attorneys belk is plata and shan and shot say trying to sue airbnb if something goes wrong is extremely difficult. it begins when you sign up on airbnbs website and click agree to its terms of service. you're agreeing to assume all risk the person going to rent the property agrees that if something happens while they're saying at this accommodation, they're actually prohibited from suing airbnb. they must go a different route, which is a binding arbitration. it's a way to strong arm someone. >> is this about controlling?

implicity? hundred percent absolutely once they've settled a claim, airbnb has required guests to sign confidentiality agreements, which cnn obtained that keep some details of legal cases, private for you to get the check, you must sign that piece of paper so that no one will know this will be swept under the rug that's exactly what happened to this man how did you feel signing that confidentiality agreement? this man asked us not to show his face and we've masked his voice he and his wife were recorded during a romantic getaway footage of my workflow you search for you and your between two people circle. >> you thought was extreme violation. ovo miller which she tried in this case and others, cnn found at airbnb does not contact law enforcement once hidden cameras are discovered. >> even if children are involved recording someone

without their consent is illegal in every state your people are showing no stores of holy womb britt victimized to the showbiz. >> she's real b&b nobody's going to want to crush them this man only found out he and his wife were recorded because police called him months later after another guest found the camera explain are more single one house had cables every campus smoke detectors part, of the challenge is that the technology has gotten so advanced these cameras, so small that you can't even see them in this one bedroom. >> we have put multiple cameras all around and they're hidden in plain sight. this one is in the smoke alarm an alarm clock, and even an outlet, and some of

them like this one. i can control remotely on my phone and even livestream well, would you like to tell airbnb? >> but about your diligence bill helming infrabulge the shoal for schauffele, making a lot of money will be with airbnb, declined an interview for this story, but told cnn incidents of hidden cameras are exceptionally rare and when we do receive an allegation, we take appropriate swift action, which could include removing hosts and listings, airbnbs, trust and safety policies lead the vacation rental industry after cnn began reporting this story, airbnb created a new policy that no cameras are allowed inside airbnbs at all. but it has long been against airbnbs rules to put cameras in bedrooms. anyway, and as you just saw, it hasn't stopped some hosts from doing it anyway, laura kyung lah. thank

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