dash.com and see how much you can save laura coates live next on cnn what was captured and brought to you by rula law, iconic brands up to 70% off retail at rula law.com at rubella you never pay for friend sees the deals on trump before their car south today well, democrats are asking joe biden, is being the nominee. really your final answer tonight on laura coates live so that tiktok you're hearing that's kind of maybe the agita that's forming because i'm actually frustrated tonight and i don't think we're actually getting straight answers. we're back to the frustration that i often tell you about the one i've having to preface statements with what people are saying in public, what they're saying in private frankly, i absolutely hate that say what

you mean when you mean to say i know it's politics as washington dc, but say what you mean, period, you've asked for a chance to lead say what you think in front of a camera? instead, it's a waiting game to see, which is the next straw to fall on the proverbial camel's back. and here's the next floating straw if that 90 minute debate wiped out president biden's reelection campaign. well, tomorrow he may get 30 or so minutes to actually try to save it it either put out the fire in the party or if it goes left it could feel it. arguably. again, the most important press conference of biden's political career may be until the next one. unscripted. taking questions from the press. right now though the fire is still being stoked by a slow trickle of daily, what maybe i'm being too generous here almost hourly trickles of news of yet another congressional democrat telling biden to say, uncle we're now

up to, i think ten total at this point including the first us senator to come against biden and say, it's time to go. peter welch of vermont and his reason is the same as the others. trump is a threat to the nation and they don't think biden can beat them but here's my question why is there presently given the number of democrats who we have not naming who were in office why is there the refusal, at least publicly, to take biden at his word that he's not leaving. my question sincere. really is it was literally in the first paragraph letter that he sent them and i'm quoting here when i say i am firmly committed to staying in this race to running this race to the end, and to beating donald trump now, i'm not naive as to why there might not be the convincing but democrats just don't seem to believe that his decision is final or or maybe just maybe they don't want it to be it's up to the president

to subside if he is going to run we're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. he has said he has made the decision. >> he has said firmly this week, he is going to run do you want him to run i want him to do whatever he decides to do. all i have complete confidence with joe biden will do the patriotic thing for the country and he's going to make that decision was never disappointed me is almost feels like as a mommy, when i asked my kids what they want to eat for dinner and i have an answer in mind and they see something else and i go, you will think about it. >> well, think about what you're saying in the long run. and they had the same answer and i have the same answer. you know, i'm going to win but this is not so clear. i don't run this particular household. and again, the people who won't take yes for an answer, they're the ones that his own party and there is still a frustrating gap between the private talks and what is said in public. take for example, what carl bernstein told cnn tonight that senator schumer

wants to get a group of people to meet with biden to discuss the situation three or four people who love joe biden in the senate, in the house, among his friends, meet with biden, not an ambush him, but have a full discussion with biden. >> maybe including nancy pelosi about the repercussions of his decision that he is running being in a case closed now you see why we have the whole who wants to be a millionaire sound and beginning of this, he said what he wanted then you haven't public all schumer saying that he's width biden not talking about just elected officials donors to are included a massive inviting, he lost georgia clinic today. >> the op-ed, you got to read it. and that's the man who helped him raise $30 million in los angeles last month. by the way, he now says that biden needs to quit but it's how he said it. that may be doing the most damage. clooney wrote,

quote, it's devastating to say it. but the joe biden, i was with three weeks ago at the fundraiser was not the joe big effing deal button of 2010 he wouldn't even the joe biden or 2020. he was the same man we all witnessed at the debate. i note, of course that was several weeks ago you see my point about the gap in-between. well, joining me now, biden, ally, and hawaii is democratic governor, josh green. he was part of the biden governors meeting one week ago. today. governor green, thank you so much for joining. look, it's been a week since you and other governors met with the president, while many of you expressed your support for biden, that is not stopped the debate as to whether he should stay at the top of the ticket, given all that we've seen, do you still support him? >> yes. the president was very well-spoken when we 25 democratic governors were together. and we know he had a terrible debate. he's had three great years and, i'm still

going to love george clooney movies. but we are a country about democracy we've got to get, we got to get past it it's because donald trump is a threat to our way of life had the luxury of being with the president several times these last couple of years because we had this tragedy on maui, the wildfire, the president came in, walked the mile of front street with us with the first lady and my wife, jamie then he greeted 300 people and look, these guys are old president biden is old. donald trump is old. they're going to have some bad days. but you have to have a good heart. and that's what our president is. and he can win this election. but i do think the democrats across the spectrum need to either rally behind him or just accept that this is his choice to make i mean, you care a drip, drip, drip instead, one-by-one, people are coming out and again, it's nowhere near the actual number, total number of democrats that are in the house

or the senate. but what does the white house say? have you been talking to them about what their plan is to get back on track and stop this slow drip i have, yes. so they were with 200 mayors. it went very well. they were with the union leadership. it went well, you know, one of the problems i think laura is that excuse me. >> what does that mean? well, what i want understand what does it mean? it went well, what are they saying about how they're going to course, correct? >> well, the course correction is joe asked to have mostly good days and people have to ultimately judge between two people. they have to judge between an elderly president with wisdom, who has some bad moments and they have to choose the other against the other opponent. i would hope, which is an elderly gentleman who is a sociopath and when you put that question in front of union leaders or mayors that have to look out for their people or people in hawaii who saw one president care for our people when we had the worst disaster in history versus the other

president, who threw a molotov. molotov cocktails at me on the press and criticized everything about hawaii it's an easy choice. i don't think that people realize that when ronald reagan was running for a second term, he was not at his best and by the last two years, ronald reagan was very diminished, but people loved him all the same and his values we are what carried the day for his team and what joe's values are will carry the day for our team and just by the way, we do have an awesome backup quarterback in in the vice president because he picked her. so i think people will have to see joe a few times in a in a decent setting but i believe in people for the breadth of their career. and look, we don't put people out to pasture like our parents or grandparents when they aren't at their best, we actually have them be with the grandkids and

share some of their wisdom. we just might not do it for 20 hours a day so i believe in people and so there may be weaknesses. there could be other i do find example a reagan curious given way that history often looks back at the end of his presidency and who people believe may have been in control or not. >> but i take your point that the idea of there was a point in time when an elder statesman, so to speak, was one that was thought of to have the institutional knowledge. but on the issue of mental acuity, i do want you to listen to what michigan governor gretchen whitmer told my colleague, abby philip just in the last hour should he has, some people have suggested just go ahead and take a cognitive test and demand that donald trump do the same. i don't think that it hurt to be honest at the end of the day, you know, you think that he should take a compton. i don't think it would hurt do you think it would hurt the president goes through lots of tests. i think that i think that the governor made a very good point and that point is

this. if we're going to judge president biden, we must judge former president trump, but the same kind of assessments. and i am a physician and by the way, gretchen, you know, she she recognizes that people want these answers. if you do cognitive tests of both presidents, you're going to probably get similar results if you do psychiatric batteries of tests, you will find that you have a very, very solid human being in president biden, and you will definitely find a malignant narcissistic person natalie disorder and former president trump and when you have that personality trait and disorder, that's when you yank the reproductive rights away from women. that's when you treat transgender people terribly. that's when you dismiss the value of minorities that's what you've got from the former president's. so i would be very interested to see what the psychiatric battery of tests would also look like for the two comparative candidates. but look, i'm just a lowly family physician and i can only

tell you this guy was able to answer my questions. he has a great team around him and he really has right policies for our country. that's ultimately what should carry the day. i know that people want to make sure that the debate wasn't kind of the baseline. now, we're going to have that chance. there'll be another debate. there's going to be many interviews. there's going to be 1,000 public events where people are going to stream them live on social media i think if the president rallies a little and he has rallied these last 13 days since that debate really look into their hearts and say, look, the country cannot afford to go back to donald trump. and let's rally around and support this president. that's kinda what i would like to see my democratic colleagues do. honestly we should not be putting people out of their misery because they had won 90 minute bad debate and in truth, i did ask the president how he was feeling because i was worried about him. he was sick when was the last time you felt terrible

and you wanted to go on tv i ask a question. >> i worked 24/7 oh, yes. sure. i get your point governor. thank you so much for joining this evening. i can't imagine the pandora's box that would be opening of having the battery of tests you just described across the board. thank you so much. >> you bet. take care well, data data data. >> everyone believes data will play a crucial role in whether president biden decides to stay in the race. and again, he said he's staying in the race, but some prominent democrats want the white house to show the internal data if it shows a course forward. kate bedingfield, former white house communications director under biden and cnn analysts writing on x today, quote, if they, meaning the biden campaign, have data that supports the path to victory that they see. they should put it out there now and help people who badly want to beat trump rally around it people want to see the path

well, the white house isn't showing all their cards yet. and while most of the conversation centers around democrats, we know that independence could very well decide this race. senior data reporter harry enten joins me. now. harry, always good to see you. how does the data reveal or what does it reveal about biden support among independents? now you know, laura, we have looked at a lot of national data post-debate among the electorate at large. but the fact of the matter is this election is going to be won or lost in the middle. it's not going to be won or lost in the partisan extreme. so i want to take a look at how independents are viewing this race between joe biden and donald trump. and i want to sort they give you a timeline here because i really think it just illustrates the deep trouble that the current incumbent is in. alright. so if you go back to november of 2020, what do we see in the matchup between joe biden and donald trump among independents. well, joe biden won that group in 2020 by 11 points. it's the reason he won that election because back in 2016, donald trump won dependent. but where were we pre-debate? well, we already saw some trouble for the

current incumbent, joe biden because donald trump was ahead by two points among independents. but look at where we are today post-debate, donald trump has opened up a six point advantage among independents. that's an even larger margin than he had back in 2016, when of course, he was able to defeat hillary clinton. now of course the question is, what is going on with independents? why are they shifting towards donald trump? and away from joe biden? look it comes down to the question we've all been talking about over the past week. and that is joe biden's age and whether or not independence he'll that joe biden is too old to be an effective president again, the timeline here is so important. you go back to 2020, mid mid-june, right around this point in the election cycle, perhaps a little bit earlier, but still right around this point, get this only 38% of independent voters said that joe biden was too old to be an effective president. you go to pre-debate 2024. look at that.

it already launched up to 75%, but look at where we are now. is 79%. we've even gone up from that 75% pre-debate to 79 now. and that of course, is more than double where we were four years ago at this point, laura, i do not understand how someone can win an election when 79 of the middle of the electorate believes that that candidate is too old to be an effective president. when you put it all together, these are just horrible numbers for joe biden well, harry enten, stay right there. i have more questions for you. i want to bring in our conversation in our panel with national reporter for axios, alex thompson, former deputy assistant to president biden, ashley etienne, and also former republican congressman joe walsh but those numbers, are not great news for any campaign. there are those who'd be skeptical and say, okay, well, the best polls are election day and i can show you a poll to fit anything. those numbers show you a great deal of things. actually begin with

you here. you heard earlier today, former speaker pelosi, who you've worked for, by the way leave perhaps a door open or a glimmer of consideration people are interpreting that she wanted biden to maybe make a decision. he's made a decision. why do you think she said though, things she did isn't being misinterpreted no. i mean, she also said today that she thinks that he can win in november, but i think what she's trying to do is give the caucus some space to deliberate for members to make their grievances known, and also give the president some room to two also engage those members and so the question is whether or not that's actually happening right now, i think the question was, you asked the governor, how do you stop the bleeding? it's not so clear to me that they're stopping the bleeding, but let me just let me tell you a couple of things. i do know about the speaker here. she does not mince words and she's very intentional about everything she says and she is

ruthless when it comes to winning and protecting the interests of this country. and no one is above reproach with her when it comes to that and. absolutely not a personal thing. it is putting the interests of the country before. so if i had to read between and listen between the lines, i'm hearing her say what you said at the top of the show, which is reconsider her, would you said but i need you to think about it. a little longer. but i think a lot of this is going to rest on his performance tomorrow. i'm also hearing that leadership is coming together, rallying thinking through alternatives. and if he doesn't have a good performance on thursday, is planning to actually stage some level of an intervention with the president by the weekend. i'm also hearing from the white house that they feel like they just need to make it to friday. he needs to have a solid performance on thursday by friday, everything shifts to the republican convention. they can get back on the offensive and in turn, the page on this thing and then democrats will have to settle down, temper

their anxiety, and refocus on donald trump and agreed to give ashley a show called i'm also hearing because i'm asking you for a second to ads on this point because you broke the news that the republican led house oversight committee is actually a subpoenaing three top jill biden aides to try to assess what they think of the president's mental fitness. they're not going to be letting this go when you think about that. and if history tells us anything, the subpoena process in congress is going to be dragged out is the point. the request to use it to at a talking point or is there a request the actual information could be balls, right i mean, even if they turned it down or if they, exercise executive privilege this is going to continue the story through election day. i can tell you even before these subpoenas came out, there were democrats in and outside the administration that we're anticipating that james comer, who issued subpoenas, was going to do something with you know, do to keep this in the news throughout november so i think

that's another thing that's giving democrats can see it is that they, they're not gonna be able to get away from this. there's no pivoting from this. republicans are republicans haven't, haven't had to do anything right now, but they're going to do stuff to keep it in the news cycle. you know, the other thing that was really interesting of your earlier interview with the governor that stood out to me as he was mentioning that he talked to the mayor's he talked to the governor's you i talked to several offices of the maratha were on that call and they were really struck by the fact that it had a very staged pep rally feel. the governor, the mayor is could not unmute themselves. they couldn't ask spontaneous questions. if i like all the questions they took were just pre-selected. what you've done it's a great job. what else are you going to do in a second term? there was not really addressing the elephant in the room of mental fitness. and i think that continued scripted notice from the president and his team is driving democrats crazy because they really want to see him. hey, if you can do this job in their foreign half years, be spontaneous, go off script any he has not done that

yet, laura, that's the problem. and it's like the two radio interviews he did and they gave the radio host the questions to ask. look, this is on the president and the bigger problem to this point is it's actually not even the debate anymore. laura it's the almost two weeks since the debate. we're still talking about it. biden has got to get out there. he's got to be unscripted, being yourself, joe, why hasn't he done it in the last two weeks? he could have put this gone to the caucus meeting. we could've gone to the caucus meeting. he could have met with every he could have gotten in wait could he have gone to the caucus meeting? it was there some invitation and he rejected it or you're saying theoretically he could have arrived. you're radically, he could radically, yeah, he could have gotten he could call them i'm coming thinks that a bit invitation. yeah. >> it's the president says, it has always been on him to address this issue he had a bad debate. >> he's had two weeks to prove something. he hasn't done that yet to ashley's point, hopefully he can begin to prove that tomorrow night or tomorrow

the news conference. it's on him. well, to play devil's advocate for a second because maybe it's the former prosecutor consistently cynical and i wonder the debate is one moment in time. >> but surely people have realized that he's used a teleprompter before then that has been unscripted or it's been scripted before that moment that he's been criticized for gaffes before that moment, a lot of the woods is now being exposed. it was not novelty in some respects. why do you think this now was the moment this proverbial straw, what is it about this one was the viewing audience, or was it being viewed by some as now that it's open, we got a problem i think now is open because this was a moment when he was complete on his own. he had no crutch, he had no teleprompter. he had no aides. it was 90 minutes and unfiltered and it made it so for democrats it became undeniable. and also for democrats, it made them really fear that this will make him unelectable. now that being said, i think you're completely right. and in some ways, the beltway is catching up to where voters already were. i mean, i

think the beltway in some ways was discounting the fact that polls have consistently showed 70 to 80% of americans who can't agree on anything had a long agreed that joe biden was too old to run for a second term. and now all of a sudden they're like, oh, so there is a potential that the polling, the second round of polling that's going to come after the july 4 may not be as bad as some democrats fear, because this had already been baked in, but it is going to be bad. you are going to see joe biden probably fall behind. and the question is, is it enough behind that joe biden is convinced that he is no longer the most electable democrats harry's number before the debate, 75% thought he was too old to be effective. >> before the debate. this has always been his one issue that he had to prove. >> but you know what, before the debate, he was the presumptive democratic nominee there is that rub as well? we'll see what happens. i'll be a series of events and interviews as well. thank you to all of you. if so much. well, george clooney, he is getting heat for urging biden to step down, including from

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save your options going on. right now. what are you waiting for? >> i had hanako montgomery in tokyo and this is cnn while testimony is now underway in the involuntary manslaughter trial of alec baldwin, the actor sitting in court flanked between two of his lawyers and listening on all as the prosecution tries to prove that it was his actions that killed rust cinematographer halyna hutchins. in opening statements, prosecutor erlinda johnson, trying to paint baldwin as reckless as someone who did not care about safety. and as the person ultimately responsible for what led to the tragedy on that movie set the evidence will show that someone who played make-believe with a real gun and violated the cardinal rules of firearms safety. is the defendant alexander baldwin. you pointed the gun at another human being

the hammer and pull that trigger in reckless disregard for ms hutchings safety well, if that sounds different from what you've heard before, is because it is this is what baldwin claimed in a 2021 interview the trigger wasn't pulled and pulled the trigger for the prosecution insisting today that he didn't pull the trigger and that the evidence will back it up. >> now, asked for the defense attorney, alex spiro says it was not baldwin's responsibility to make sure that no live rounds were in that gun, which jury? there's got to see today jurors also saw video from an earlier rehearsal showing baldwin pulling the gun. baldwin don't tie in playing the video actually arguing that it shows that people onset or telling him to do it and there was no danger the defense instead, blaming the armorer and the first assistant director who declared the gun was safe to

use a baldwin's lawyer says, he could not have known what was in the chamber he was an actor acting playing the role of harlan rust, an actor playing a character can act in ways that are lethal that just aren't lethal on a movie set, he did not know or have any reason to know that gun was loaded with a live bullet? that's the kid that live bullet is the key. that is the lethal element the defense also trying to temper the prosecution's claim that baldwin pulled the trigger, spiro saying, no one saw baldwin intentionally pull it. >> but even if he did, it's not against the law while filming on a movie set, you're allowed to pull the trigger. so even if even if he intentionally pulled the trigger like the prosecutor just demonstrated, that doesn't make him guilty of homicide now, you know, baldwin faces up to 18 months in prison if he is convicted in march,

armorer hannah gutierrez, reed, she was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 18 months while the trial is i to last about two weeks. >> and joining me now, neama rahmani, a former federal prosecutor and president of west coast trial lawyers. neamah. thank you so much for being here. i mean, you've heard a little bit from both just even tonight, the prosecution side, the defense side, the prosecution is arguing that baldwin used the gun irresponsibly. the defense saying he just an actor, he had no no way of knowing it was loaded. who gave the more convincing opening statements i think the defense did. >> and this is why i'm going to prosecution. we knew that they were going to lean into the argument that baldwin pulled the trigger. that's what the fbi ballistics report says and baldwin famously told george stephanopoulos that he did not. but i think the defense had a compelling argument that there are more culpable people here, hannah gutierrez-reed, of course, is the armor she was

convicted and sentenced to 18 months. but assistant director dave halls, he was the one who said it was a cold gun. there was a 911 video that was played excuse me, an audio theo that said that he was the one who was responsible and the defense was able to get that in. and he of course, got a no time misdemeanor deal. so i think the defense has the edge so far and of course, remember the judge has already said that the jury cannot hear about baldwin being a producer as a part of this cutting off some of the ammunition, so to speak momentum about who would have oversight of all of this. >> but the defense is also saying that police and investigators mishandled the gun and ordered a test that actually damaged it. how does that play for the prosecution? >> i think the prosecution is still will be able to prove that that trigger did go off and i think that defense has been have to step back a little bit, baldwin, of course, said that he didn't pull the trigger. i think ultimately we'll see the defense argue

that it accidentally discharged. there were reports of ms but things on set firearms and we don't know if there's this specific firearm, but at least one firearm that a discharge maybe even more than one. so i think ultimately that's the direction the defense is going to go in here and take a step back from baldwin saying that he didn't actually pull that trigger well name of one of the strongest things for the defense is having somebody already been convicted of similar charges in your client was not trying along with them, but the prosecution, they have a burden to meet. >> will they meet it? the jury is going to be hearing so much. we'll follow this trial it's an important one, neama rahmani. thank you so much thanks for having me, laura, up next comedian deal hugely calling out george clooney. >> he'll tell us why he's taking issue with the movie stars latest political message after this just go at morgan

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call 187786 68555 i'm pete muntean at reagan national airport this is cnn day-by-day there's a bigger reaction across the country about whether or not biden should be on the presidential ticket. now hollywood is weighing in. as we mentioned, george clooney was urging the party to move on from biden after the debate, writing the new york times quote, our party leaders need to stop telling us us that 50 million people didn't see what we just saw. we're also terrified by the prospect of a second trump term that we've opted to ignore every warning sign. now, some hollywood big wigs are sharing in that perspective and others are really criticizing him for taking that position and publicly. and one of those critics joins me now now actor and standup comedian d l hughley. well, i'm glad to have as a part of the show this

evening, dl you blasted clooney over his decision to call on president biden to quit this race. tell me why you think he was wrong what they said? >> well, i think he obviously has a righteous opinion, but where i stand on it as this precisely the republican national on monday and we have a republican nominee who is picking a vice presidential candidate, that he has to replace because he had to have them kill. he tried to have him killed. and rather than talking about that we're talking about replacing a nominee who had whether you like this are not president biden has had the lead stay virginia that were rival fdr. and so i think that while people have the right to voice their opinion, they should be rooted in some level of sanity if you look at where, for instance, if you look at where george w bush and john kerry were at this time, in their rates in june and july of that year kerry was seven points ahead of him. if you

look at where barak obama and mitt, mitt romney were in that race october 16th, 2.5 weeks before that election, care romney was four points ahead of obama. so, and they tell two people have in common is the power of the incumbency so you have openly people advocating for a president to give up the power of the bully pulpit and the incumbency months before a presidential election, which is ridiculous. i don't historically, no president has ever gave up and come see. no party has ever gave, didn't come see at present? and won the election. it's just never happened it was interesting point. >> i hear you in the trickle references. it gives great context to understand how these members can shift. but there was a point in this in this op-ed and when he talks about how and now, i'll read it here. he's talking about how there was new and upsetting information. he talks about, well know what we all think

republicans should abandon their nominee now that he's been convicted of 34 felonies. and so i just wonder from the perspective of the timing aspect of it. did you see anything with respect to president biden and the power of the incumbency that would give you the same level of concern about republicans trying to replace their nominee because 90 convictions and biden's 90 minutes i think that i interviewed the president on may 29 a few weeks before the debate at the white house and on air force one. >> now, obviously he's an older man. obviously, there's no disputing that. but let's be clear the democrats should be focusing on what's at stake. in terms of what they running against the one thing that i didn't hear george clooney mentioned was was a project 2025. and i think we have a decidedly different vantage point. if you look at who project 2025 affects the most, it is communities of color it is the people who have less than. now if you're straight

white male in this country, you could be disappointed in their lesson, but you wouldn't, it wouldn't have disastrous results. i think that's sadly a different thing, but communities of color and i think that the vantage point they speak from, i don't think that he speaks for the people that i speak. that's the amazing people every day on my radio show. and that's the, that's the sentiment i hear. that is that is kind of banded around. and so i just think the one thing i can say for sure is the reticence that a lot of young black men have with the democratic party is the cowardice. at every turn. the hand-wringing effects is this and they exhibited it all the time and it's just a lot to take you know, i'm a fan of your show and listen to it all the time and i'm wondering, unpack a little bit more about what you're hearing on that idea of the artist, because one of the criticisms i often hear is democrats eat their own, that there's a circular firing squad absolutely. >> they attempt to have high ground. it's to their detriment and yet and yet there is something to be said about having a moral compass, about having the high ground and

about calling out wrong wherever it may be. but tell me about what you're hearing from people about how they view these last couple of weeks? >> well, here's the thing lbj had, the moral compass he left richard nixon became president, and that for black people became the onslaught of mass and carper. because conservation. and the war on drugs. it had disastrous consequences for when donald trump won, it had disastrous consequences for black people. if you look at who suffered the most under those policy, if you look at what is culver reaction, who died the most. so this for me, is that a whimsical conversation for me, it's not a it's not a conversation about what is what is uncomfortable. it is what is necessary look at project 2025 and tell me for sure, i once the mass media and no one as interviewed, anybody seriously with the fervor about biden's age and they do about project 2025, no one no one who does it affect if they disband are absolve the department of

education who does affect primary environmental rollbacks, who does affect primarily all the things that are good dei, or if they are black history, who does affect because the truth of the matter is in 2020, it was black and brown people then fired donald trump more white people voted for him in 2020. they voted for him in 2016. black and brown people fired him and as a result of this, we have these draconian measures that it's probably, it's scoring, 25 and more rather than democrats focusing on that, they focusing on the age of a man by the time this is over, one thing is for certain joe biden will be older and project 2025 will still be the platform that is running behind all of this you know, this has been one of the big criticisms of the people have not gone after what are the obvious achilles heels of one's opponent? and you mentioned that you also interviewed vice president harris, i believe about a month ago as well, and i didn't want to get your take given probably 2025 has more than a few dog whistle, shall we say? and there's also overt saban is i said, more, more than over dog

whistles. i'm saying in terms of thinking about and there are also moments when people are using race and having those discussions to criticize the vice president of the united states. and i want to get your take on something that she's recently been facing. well, been facing for quite some time, but especially now that she's being named as possibly someone to top the ticket. listen to what the former trump official sebastian gorka, had the nerve to say about her she's a dei hire. >> she's a woman, she's colored that for. she's gotta be good. and at least her brain doesn't literally freeze in mid center now, i don't know if you can see who's on that screen, but one of them on the right. matt whitaker, who is the former acting attorney general of the united states, with that smile on his face, what do you make of these attacks? >> it's an interesting thing, 17 centered has gone on to become president. she was one of them. she's one of those vice presents very few people. she's been an attorney general of the largest, most populous,

most wealthy state in the country. so there is this notion more, more america has been more damage by gci, than dei the greedy corrupt incompetent white men have cause more damage to the united states of america, than diversity equity, inclusion, who caused boeing, who calls the mortgage crisis, who calls the reaction, and our lack of reaction to covid it wasn't because what people we'll do, is blame the things they can't control. kamala harris is more than qualified to accept the presence of the united states of america, which is interesting because her chest to be present wasn't fealty. it wasn't much like donald trump's. whoever he selects will be. it has her it is her professionalism and her actually ability it's around the country and in another point is if if joe biden as a lot of people worried, can't complete his term, who's more better qualified, dented, completely, its termed in

president vice president harris. so you have to you have both the incumbent, the power of the incumbency and somebody who is more than willing capable and able to run the pregnancy, should he see or should he should not be able to complete the thing. so what men do, what what, what mediocre white men do is blamed things. they have no excuse for their failures. the reason that donald trump did not get a second term is because he's so mishandled covid that he was fired by the american people he only their ability to turn the call their nose and keep running, keeps him in the office to attack a woman's. we can take our policies we can attack the things that you do. but her competence is above is above the pale we get we don't even have that conversation. i guarantee you this. you have never seen a more accomplished and competent and ready vice president you know what i'll tell you what i'd rather vice president, ready to step in, they wanted somebody tried to hang dr really knew i wanted to

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now, when police officers eventually arrived at the scene, mitchell was unresponsive and pronounced dead despite lifesaving measures that police say were taken now, it is still unclear what led to mitchell's encounter with the security guards. and how long it took police to arrive on the scene. and what mitchell was doing at the hotel. the preliminary manner of death is being called a homicide according to the milwaukee county medical examiner, but the final manner of death is yet to be determined. i want to bring in now ben crump, he is the attorney for dvontaye mitchell's family. mr. crump,

so glad to see you, but not under these circumstances. it is hard to watch that video, to hear his words and know the outcome. and i understand that one of the family's attorneys met with the da's office today where they revealed new video what did they see and learn in that new video? >> where attorney will salton and some of the family members met this morning with the da and looking at the video, the rest of us will see tomorrow and it shows him being hunch kicked, and beaten with a metal. the time biden security guard and it showed them dragging him to the hotel. and so we just see the bus and the video outside. they say is far worse. the video that's on the inside the walkie da, we now know is investigating the death as a homicide. do you expect charges to be brought against

security guards and mind you there is a distinction. we normally hear about officer involved cases. the security guards themselves, could there be charges brought against them? >> well, laura coates, we don't take anything for granted. but what this video the fact that we have an affidavit from one of the employees who was holding his legs parents encouraged this man, you come forward and tell the truth and what he said was he told a security guard because he thought that this was excessive. he couldn't breathe and they ordered him to keep doing what he was doing. and that's so troubling on so many levels because that young man feels that high employees are the franchise own employees were responsible for the senseless dell up to devonta in mitchell who is another black man and a prompt pedestrian face down, having breathing issues at the george floyd we thought that we'd see these

many matters like this. >> you know, in one video of the incident, you can hear a security guard saying something like, this is what happens when you go into the ladies room at your press conference today, you said that that's character assassination of mitchell do you have any idea of what triggered this encounter at all where we know that he had mount to health issues, but the one thing that video cleared up for us was that he didn't arbitrarily go into the ladies room as if he was some kind of probe which was false narrative that was initially put out there that justified as he was running from them and he ran into the gift shop, ran into the ladies room, but at no point was he trying to violate anybody in fact, they said on the video, you don't see him hit anybody. >> he is the only one being push, kick we'll for merit or billy club. where is the humanity i mean, it's just

troubling and charges should be bought because you have video, you have witness statements, you have affidavits. how much more do we have to give the da to bring charges? laura but the roles were reversed. and it was the vontae mitchell that did this to the security guard he would have been arrested, charged, and sit in a jail while the rules different when unarmed, black man as the victim dead on the street you and i have been in this moment together far too often, and i will continue to follow. and thank you so much for bringing this to light. it is so tragic to see this unfold the way it has been crump. thank you so much. >> thank you marc copes and thank you all for watching. >> anderson cooper 360 is next oh man. i love a good hotel, breakfast aide. >> so close to the state. i

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