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common. >> i agree. we do i'm not sure calm record. >> a verbal stumble from the president at a time when his every word is subject to incredibly intense scrutiny. this as a hollywood heavyweight calls on the president to step aside just weeks after raising millions for his reelection campaign and millions left picking up the pieces from hurricane beryl in record-breaking life-threatenin g all right. 6:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at the white house on this thursday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us president biden started this week writing to leaders in his own party, demanding they stop questioning his position at the top of the ticket. it's time
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for it to end. he wrote. but on this thursday morning, just hours from when he'll take the stage for what is perhaps the highest stakes press conference of his half-century career in politics. it has not ended. nancy pelosi is still asking questions. so is democratic senator peter welch and george clooney yes. that george clooney writing this brutal assessment just weeks after he posed for this photo with the president, who says this quote, it's devastating to say it, but the joe biden, i was with three weeks ago with a fundraiser was not the joe big effing deal biden of 2010. he wasn't even the joe biden of 2020. he was the same man that we witnessed at the debate. vermont's peter welch on wednesday became the first democratic senator to say that biden should step aside writing quote for the good of the country, i am calling on president biden to withdraw from the race. those comments make senator welch the tenth
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congressional democrat to call on biden to step aside with similar statements on wednesday from representatives pat ryan and earl blumenauer, it was these comments wednesday morning from the former house speaker nancy pelosi, who is someone who's council biden actually values. now sounding open to the possibility that biden could change his mind it's up to the president to subside if he is going to run we're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. i want him to do whatever he decides to do. >> cnn has learned top officials from biden's campaign will brief senate democrats during a special meeting this afternoon. and axios now reporting that senate majority leader chuck schumer is privately signaling to donors that he is open to a democratic presidential ticket that is not led by president biden. at least three other democrats in the senate have indicated it in private meetings that they don't believe that biden can beat trump there are others
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though, publicly supporting him, but you can really see the division at this point, i think he has a strong campaign and a strong message to deliver. i believe he's going to move forward. i'm supporting i'm proud to stand with joe biden and i'm showing up tomorrow with brass knuckles i am deeply concerned about joe biden winning this november. >> he's gonna be our nominee at the convention. he is going to be our candidate for president the fall. he is going to be our next president, united states all right let's bring in our panel, cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny former white house communications director kate bedingfield, and republican strategist sarah longwell. >> are all joining us this morning. good morning. all good morning. kate bedingfield look, i want to start with you. you also as all of this was kind of cascading yesterday, you tweeted this to those that you used to work with at the white house. if they have data that supports the path to victory
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that they see, they should put it out there now and help people who badly wanted to beat trump rally around it people want to see the path you've been here several days this morning. we have been following this bouncing ball together, where biden has been up and now biden seems to be down how difficult was yesterday for him and how different is the situation now than it was 24 hours before them yeah. well, it definitely felt like the mood shifted a bit on capitol hill, obviously, when you saw nancy pelosi come out and essentially put the conversation back on the table and say, let him get through nato this week and then we're going to essentially chile she's signaled, we're going to have another discussion about this so obviously that's not, that is a weaker position than he was in the day prior when it seemed like he had kind of put all of that to rest i think they are in a position right now where there are a lot of people when you heard obviously senator fetterman has stood very strongly by him. you've heard others say he can win this race. i'm actually somebody who believes that he still can win this race this is
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a moment where people want to rally behind him. i think. and the campaign needs to give people a reason to do that. i mean, i think all of this anger and frustration, it all comes from a shared desire to beat donald trump democrats feel that trump isn't it's essential threat. they are scared about the prospect of losing this election. they want to win. i think the biden team would serve joe biden well to put forward some data that shows, here's our path and help people rally around the idea that he can win because the public data right now isn't good for him. and that's influencing the way people are thinking because this politics, yes. sara, you you talk to voters all the time, including many voters who would also like to see donald trump not get reelected. what are they telling you about the debate? since the debate i've done nothing but focus groups. i've just listened to voters. i've talked to black voters to swing voters to democratic voters who voted for hillary clinton and then joe biden and are now on decided and here's the main takeaway from the voters that joe biden desperately needs these swing voters, these
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double-haters. he was already behind with them. they already had concerns about his age that has now calcified into a belief from these voters. that he cannot do the job for four more years and they are desperate for a change. they actually think that a change signals strengths not a weakness and they're begging for an alternative i mean, and look, the language that they use as tough, they are extremely unhappy with this choice and they say things like we've got an insurrectionist on one hand and somebody who's not there on the other hand, or they even they use much more unflattering terms in that. and it is, it is all around this sense that biden can't do it. and the thing that i'm seeing in the public polling as well, that's got me more concerned that i don't think people are talking about enough is the race is tightening in place? this is like minnesota in places like virginia, in places where the map is expanding for donald trump in ways where as somebody who's also a strategist who is actively running a campaign,
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republican voters against trump, who was trying to rally people to vote against trump to build an anti-trump coalition. i am watching states that we're not on the team table, not on the map that were that were not even thought about his competitive getting competitive. and that is a huge problem right now really, really very remarkable when you put it that way. tim ryan said this on twitter, the voters will not believe us about january 6, talking about the stakes with trump. if we don't tell the truth about june 27, which is of course the date of the debate. is that a sentiment you're getting to peter people feel like people understand what damage control looks like. the voters will say things like i watched that george stephanopoulos interview that wasn't any better. and they're just trying to walk this back, but we all saw what we saw. this is the thing the frustrating thing is that voters have eyes. there's a lot of people telling you, just grab your sword, go out on offense and look, i believe in offense, i wanted this campaign
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to play offense for a long time, which you cannot ignore the fact that these everybody saw it if they didn't see it on the actual debate, though lots of people did they saw it in social media and people are not, they are going to believe their lying eyes are one after the insurrection, like they know what they saw, right? well, and if they saw it on social media, they're not going to have seen the back half of the debate where democrats say, well, biden came back and are you jeff? i want to let you get in here a little bit with your kind of reporting and what you're hearing around what sara said and also what you're hearing from the white house look, i mean, as of now, it's becoming clear man, a more clear where democratic leaders and party elders are. it's less clear whether any of this has changed. president biden's thinking. obviously it was very busy yesterday with the nato leaders and other things. but at the end of this week, whatever he decides to do, it's still his decision. this is a much more complicated race for him to sara's point, i was talking to a democratic advisers in minnesota yesterday. they are very worried about minnesota. you might ask, why minnesota think back to 2016, minnesota was the
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closest defeat for donald trump to hillary clinton by about 1.5 percentage points. so i always call it the reddest blue state in the country. so i'm going to set as an issue new hampshire is an issue. virginia, new mexico's we're looking at potentially a map. biden does i mean, maybe they're new york new york like critical party we need a party officials are looking for money in these districts. it's not going to be a runaway, but speaking of money, we spent a lot of time yesterday talking to donors and yes, president biden sort of dismissed them as the elites in the party it's a real issue. they've built a very big campaign, a robust biden campaign with these offices and a huge advertising budget. right now, they will not be able to keep the lights on with the amount of money coming in. so at the the end of the day, does a press conference, even change this i'm not so sure about that, but my eye is on the senate launch. we've all covered a lot of those, been to a lot of them. it is absolutely loosely pivotal today when jen
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o'malley, dillon, and steve rachetti and mike donilon, three top biden advisors go to the senate democratic lunch the message they get i think as one that we know because we've talked to these senators. so yesterday, a tough day for president biden it's really hard to see that changing. but again, it is his decision and we don't know if this has changed his thinking. >> well, i'm we're going to we're going to talk next about this big press conference. he's got on the horizon up next, it's really all anyone is talking about here in washington should he stay or should he go? ohio's democratic congressman greg landsman here with his take on the president's reelection bid plus a verbal stumble during a nato toast is joe biden ready for tonight's big press conference? and this governor, the wall street journal numbers are unemployment is down all right direction van, are you still single campaign governor correct george clooney, not a
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under intense scrutiny as he attempts to reassure democrats that he is fit to run. >> again that pressure will reach a peak tonight as the president holds a solo press conference wrapping up, the nato summit the we. were, talking as we were coming into this about whether it's fair or unfair, you know, he has some he's a man who stumbles over, has stumbled over his words in the past kate but this moment for him tonight is they've set it up. the white house has set it up. is look, these are two tests. george stephanopoulos interview the nato press conference. you now got pelosi out there saying, hey, you got to reopen this question of what you're gonna do is there a is there a way for him to is there an upside here? i mean, it's it seems like if he gets through it fine, they're still going to be all the questions. but if he trips up that's potentially it. well, there's look, there is definitely scrutiny on the press conference tonight. there's obviously scrutiny on his performance overall, given
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what happened in the debate understandably i do think though, things like, you know, like we were just watching this clip, he said, do not, instead of do and corrected himself the way anybody reading off a paper as i imagine everyone's sitting at this table at some point on television has worked for the grace of god, but so, but this is also in some ways that's an opportunity for the biden campaign. the base is fired up about this. they feel like biden is being unfairly attacked. that there is an over-talking on every last thing that people are piling on, that it's people who are sitting in washington and criticizing him there is an opportunity here for some of this piling on to energize parts of biden's coalition that he frankly needed it's to energize me. we've seen him over the course of the race so far seems to be underperforming with some of the key constituencies that helped him get elected in 2020. and there is, there is energy for this because people feel like you're picking on him for saying do instead of do not and correcting himself. i mean, it's there there's a little
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bit of like give me a break there. so i think that there's an opportunity city for the biden campaign to kind of put their armor on and kind of weaponize that piece of it a little bit very briefly. do you agree with that? do you think i think look, these there is some energy from the base is certainly get attacked on twitter anytime i really just focused formation that it says and look, it's great to see whitmer out there forum in surrogates are suddenly out in force like there is there is the circling the wagons, i think has given some energy around the base. the problem is just the swing voters, the even sort of soft democrats, all of the people you need in these swing states, they're falling off a cliff and i think that's the problem yeah. all right. coming up next on cnn this morning and i can tell tell you without hesitation being president of this country is entirely about character hollywood a-listers lining up to as president biden to step aside actor michael douglas, who played the president there, andrew shepherd, i believe the
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over and over and over and over and over again. record breaking temperatures alright, let's get straight to our weatherman, derek van dam with more on this, derek, good morning yeah. kasie, i just returned home from houston where the heat wave has settled in, but there's still 1.3 million customers without power. a large majority of them in and around the greater houston neria harris county heat advisories there in place, heat indices. this is what it feels like as you step outside up to 106, just absolutely brutal, especially if you don't have that opportunity to cool yourself off without electricity and obviously air conditioning now it's not just texas, it's also over the western us. we've been breaking records, sounding like okay broken record here in las vegas five consecutive days where the mercury in the thermometer climbed at 115 or even higher. so all time record highs set for that city earlier this week, daily record highs continue to be broken for that location. and other locations
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to in fact, 100 or more record highs possible through the course of this weekend. i remember hurricane beryl, that's what brought the power outages to texas. well, guess what? it tracked through northern sections of new england. this is coming out of eden, new york's and tornado damage. and it's from the remnants of what was hurricane beryl. and this is just incredible to see the path from this tropical system that moved all the way across the eastern seaboard. there were 54 tornado warnings issued yesterday by the upstate new york office and record-breaking number of tornado warnings across portions of louisiana with the system earlier in the week and that's just really saying something you're going to say goodbye and good riddance. this is what's left of beryl. and we can't say goodbye soon enough. case. indeed, we also have had 28 suspected heat-related deaths related to all of this derek van dam for us this morning, derek. thank you very much. >> all right. coming up next here. we're going to talk to
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democratic congressman greg landsman of ohio about how president biden can dig in or not, plus how the biden campaign is responding to losing the support of actor and mega fundraiser george clooney thank you all for, coming et
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the gave him this clooney wrote in an op-ed in the new york times. it reads in part quote, it is devastating to say it but the joe biden, i was with three weeks ago at that fundraiser, was not the joe big f and deal biden of 2010. he wasn't even the joe biden of 2020. he was the same man. we all witnessed at the debate. clooney, apparently not alone. the actor michael douglas says he agrees with clooney that it is time for democrats to do something different but i think it's a valid point. >> i mean, i'm i'm i'm deeply deeply concerned i mean, especially it's difficult because the democrats have a big bench. i mean, a lot of heavy hitters all right, panel is back and of course, this is the cover of the new york post this morning, doesn't have a clooney. >> lots of fodder there. politico now reporting this morning, jeff zeleny that george clooney ran this op-ed by president barak obama, who you will know, we can put that photo backup on the screen i was in that photo with george clooney and julia roberts. and the interesting detail they say
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is that obama didn't encourage or advise clooney to say what he said, but he also didn't object to it. which is remarkable. it does feel like there's something coordinated here. then there's gambling in the casino. yes. this is something that is absolutely makes sense because things do not happen this week in a vacuum. the fact that that nancy pelosi said her very calibrated words yesterday. and what's remember what she said last week that really frames the discussion. is this an episode or a condition? she intentionally kept the discussion open yesterday morning, a couple hours later, this op-ed came from george clooney is all of this coordinated it's no coincidence. i'm told. and the obama things specifically look, former president barak obama is has been very loyal to his vice president and his current president, but he also has not come out this week and said,
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anything supportive in terms of guys back off he said he's running, he's running, he's not said that he is waiting on the sidelines in the wings like many others to allow this conversation to percolate and things if he wanted to stop georgia plenty from doing this, i'm guessing he could have done that. they are friends the obamas have vacation that their house in italy with them in years gone by. but the thought of obama sort of orchestrating this through clooney. i don't believe that, but i do believe that this is something that conversations are happening at these high levels and look, i think the root of all of this is someone talked to me yesterday that president biden could go from sort of villain in the party, villains probably strong to hero immediately if he took this off-ramp, the question is how difficult is it for him to take this off ramp and is any of this changed his mind? he's wrapped himself with the the pillars of the
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party, the cbc and black voters labor yesterday. so in the internal structures of the party, he's still fairly strong, but clearly he's losing support external on the obama peace. also don't forget there's history here, 2015, 2016, president obama and his team want discouraged joe biden getting into the race. >> joe biden wrote about this in quite a lot of detail in his book and there's lingering, there, lingering feelings about that, you know, biden felt like he had a good lane look. ultimately, he decided not to run because he was not emotionally in a place after his son, beau's death where he felt like he could give it his all but there were lingering scars from president obama and his team really trying to dissuade biden from getting into the race. so that's another that's another layer here in terms of as people are thinking about how best to try to try to influence joe biden's decision here. and i would have to imagine that's in the back of president obama's mind as well. yes. cars with jill biden to i'm told president obama. yeah. yeah. no
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it's it's it's all very, very layered. it can we just remind i just want to play it because i want to take a look back at, but also reference what george clooney was talking about that big fn deal. joe biden moment with with obama, we have that look, let's just look at it. this is again, when these two men were serving together gather in the white house, joe biden was vice president and before what kate describes when obama thinks that joe biden is not the right person to basically succeed him and gives that nod to hillary clinton instead, watch ladies and gentlemen, the president of united states of america morocco bomb the passage of the aca 14 years ago. >> now, 2010 was when that happened, and you can see the difference i mean, you just can oh, well, you could see the difference if you go back and watch joe biden debate donald trump in 2020, it is startling anytime you look back at joe biden, there's i know people say well, you know, he's always
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had the stutter or hasn't always found the correct word quickly. but his energy, the ability to understand what he is saying, all of that is different from four years ago and people who talk about, is it a condition or is something wrong with him? no, he's just 81-years-old like the reason that george clooney is writing this, the reason that brock obama is not stopping him is everybody's going, he's 81-years-old, but one of the things that focus group so voters say is they say somebody's got to take the car keys from him because people understand what it's like to have an aging parent and how they get stubborn. and so the taking the car keys as a theme, we're starting to hear throughout the group's yeah yeah, it's it's tough. it's a tough conversation to have, which i think is why this is so, this is so difficult, especially for people who do love joe biden, right so let's put up, we've got some new polling data that came in this morning from abc news. if we want to kind of cycle through what we have, there, i think the top line number here, and this is all adults. it's not
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registered voters or likely voters. it's the number of people that think joe biden should step aside side and that stands are actually here. this is a choice for president, so this is very tight. donald trump 47, joe biden, 46 this is plus or minus two points. i'm not sure if that's a registered voters or likely voters. but look at that is a candidate too old for a second term biden at 85%. yes trump 60%? yes, we should acknowledge these men are three years apart in age, but then here's that should biden step aside number and this again is all adults? yes, 67% no. 30%, or these kind of numbers that are going to make a difference to biden know this is not going to drop five has decision. >> these polls are basically are tracking what our poll said after the debate and others, the bottom, the polls that i think the data that could be persuasive. certainly democrats are what is this whole situation doing to the ticket? look at house races, look at
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some senate races. and without question the wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, those senate races are harder for democrats to hold those seats than they were just two weeks ago. never easy necessarily. but those are the numbers. if any numbers or data are going to drive this decision, it will be those but i think one thing that does the biden team can point to that. look, he is still neck and neck within the margin of error with donald trump, the overall number hasn't changed for him, but down-ballot, that's where the worry is. >> it is changing though. i mean, like to a lot of these national polls is incredibly misleading because right now like in a place like wisconsin, there's a massive gap between the senator, tammy baldwin and how she is polling and where biden is pulling. he's like ten points behind her. you can't argue with gaps like that? >> you know, they're humungous and they were big before the debate like from what i understand, talking to my sources on the hill, they have just ballooned. >> all right. coming up next
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sake where these roller skates president biden's political future in the balance this morning as the number of democrats publicly calling on him to step aside has reached ten. >> and one of biden's closest allies on capitol hill, stunning allies and colleagues with this equivocating answer on the president's political future it's up to the president to subside if he is going to run we're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. i want him to do whatever he decides to do and that's that's the way it is. >> all right. joining me now to discuss democratic congressman greg landsman of ohio, congressman. thank you very much for being here this morning. they what the former house speaker said yesterday. what did it mean to you as you weigh whether or not you think you're going to call on for biden to step aside? >> she is a just a giant and we all have an enormous amount of
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respect for her. >> so that was a big deal, though not surprising. i think she and i feel very similar, which is that everything is on the line here. the stakes are so high that trump in a second term would be a dangerous to our democracy. hill, upend our lives and the only thing worse than that would be if he was in control of all three branches of government, which is but becoming more and more likely to happen. i mean, that's, that's where we're headed. and i think that's why she did what she did and she's she's saying the right thing, which is it? it's his decision president biden has to make this decision and he's got to make it very soon. he doesn't have much time and the idea that he'll come back and keep saying, well, i've already made a decision. this is it. i'm staying in i think what she's saying there are at least what i would be hoping he would read from that is well,
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there's time to change that decision. if you can't pull this off, it really sounds like you feel like she opened the door for him and you want him to walk through it? >> yeah. i mean, i i'm getting closer and closer to appreciating that that as much as i respect joe biden and what he's done that what would clooney said yesterday was we're really powerful and that he saved democracy in 2020. he's got to do it again in 2024. now, i had hoped and still do to some extent that he can go out and make the case that donald trump is unfit to be president. that he yeah, it's going to undermine if not destroy our democracy but i think that's becoming more and more less likely. i'm sorry he could be. and this is a sorkin line an american hero, joe
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biden and say, look i've got, i've got to step down now for me i represent a district that is in my mind almost perfect. it is equal now number democrats, independents, republicans and it is a place just like most of america where the anti-trump coalition is big. it is a majority of voters and my hope is that biden appreciates that neither you know, uses these last few days or weeks, i guess before the convention to prove us all wrong. those of us who think, hey, this is maybe too big of a challenge for them but to say if that's not the case, if he can't pull this off, that he's not going to allow that to happen. he's not going to allow trump and the rise of fascism and authoritarianism to
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take root here and to allow trump to become president and control all three branches of government do you think that there is any way that president biden at this point could regain that trust and confidence that you are talking about. is that even possible? now, i think it's possible i'd like to go home where all general, you know, when we're all in dc we like to go home, but i we all leave today. who go back home? i want to go back home and check in with folks maybe one last time but yeah, he could and as the nominee, i hope he does. however it's becoming increasingly likely that that this is, this may be just too high of a hill for him to climb. and by the way, this isn't about being president as much as it is making the case
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that donald trump is unfit to be president united states. he tried to overturn an election. he stole reproductive freedom away from tens of millions of women and girls, including my daughter's what or who is less free now he gave trillions of dollars to billionaires at the expense of the rest of us. and that's why the economy is the way it is in my opinion he will upend democracy and up in our lives. everything, everything is on the line. by the way. he also was held liable by a court for rape he also trump was also it was also convicted on 34 felony counts i mean, to be able to make the case against this this this person, the former president should not be that hard. biden has to do it if he can't do it then he's got to let somebody else do it. >> do you feel like you can plausibly say to your constituents right now that the man that they saw on the debate stage is a better person to be
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in charge of the country, is that a hard argument than donald trump's sure. i mean you get what i'm saying, like if you're trying to convince someone who maybe voted for trump in 16 biden in 2020, trying to decide what to do now how much harder did the president made? it's bad argument for you on that debate stage, much harder and quite frankly, i think he's made it even harder since the debate because instead of saying, look you know, let me show you, i can do this he just kind of went at us and i don't think that helped him so you think he did more damage to himself? we're getting this week with that letter. he put out on monday but no. but at the end of the day, we're all adults, so but the letter aside, the question is about the future of the country truly, right and, and, you know, he cares deeply about the country. he does, he cares deeply about our democracy, cares deeply about freedom there are a lot of
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people who have a lot on the line right now. i mean, a lot, millions and millions of people and he cares deeply about an economy that works for working people. and we're not going to get any of that and we could lose a lot if not everything if trump is re-elected and he has control of all three branches of government. that is a, i believe a nightmare scenario, not just for me, where the democratic party, but for the american people and those most vulnerable or those who have everything on the line, which is millions and millions of people. and i know that the president deeply cares about that. and so my hope is that when i go home back to ohio and listen to folks that you know, he he is spending the next three or four days really listening to folks and either deciding, you know, what, i can i can make a turn here. i can i can make this happen becoming
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increasing legged, less convinced or to say, it's time what would you like to see happen in the event that he does step aside? >> would you like to see commonly harris would you like to see an open convention either one yeah. >> i would congressman landsman. >> thank you very much. for being here and tell you what. come back monday after you. i've talked to back home we'd love to hear your news first. at the table. thank you very much for being here. all right 54 minutes past the hour. >> let's do a quick morning roundup. a jury will soon decide the fate of new jersey senator bob menendez, and just a few hours closing arguments were wrapped up in his corruption trial. the senator is accused of taking bribes in exchange for his influence an american airlines flight from tampa to phoenix forced to abort its takeoff because of multiple blown tires. you can see this smoke billowing from the wheels. no injuries were reported. the twenty-five-year- old boeing 737800 had 174 passengers and six crew onboard no one was injured and costco
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hiking membership fees by five bucks. that's not going to cost you to $65 to join the increase in packs 52 million customers starmer's me among them, i will say the good news, the hotdogs still a buck-fifty for now and desperate times, desperate measures i want to talk a little bit more about our big story this morning, a democratic delegate from california tells cnn that he received a call from the biden campaign that was designed to quote, shut down, talk of replacing the president at the top of the ticket listen to this superdelegate, describe what happened after biden's disastrous debate performance when 51, 50,152 million people watched that debate. and a lot of us were dumbfounded by what we saw i started getting phone calls, text messages, emails, i get stopped on the street or since i'm in hawaii stopped on the beach and people say, what can we do to save this situation? and i'm hearing a
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lot of people who want to at least discuss and a lot of people who are leaning towards trying to get joe biden to step aside very interesting panel is back jeff zeleny conference. just get your reaction with the congressman said here because he did say it was getting closer to calling for the president to step aside. and really didn't leave a lot of room for the didn't they didn't seem to be a lot of space in his mind for the president to recover. >> look really echoing the sentiment i think of what many members of congress have said privately, a few have said publicly, there's not much difference between the ten democrats who have come out versus others who've said he can't win don't see a path, et cetera. so i think if this point members are being a little bit i guess hesitant to go all the way because if the president does not make the decision himself, why be on the record saying that? but despite all of this, i think the question still remains. has any of this changed president biden's mind, change the mind
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of first lady jill jill biden. we don't know that. so that is something that i think is really the only question we need to answer it over the next 72 hours or so that we have little visibility on fair? absolutely true. but still, kate, it's very interesting to me that they are calling delegates to the convention. i mean, that would imply that they are concerned about that on some level. well, i think you would expect to see them do that. there was obviously an enormous amount of concern following the debate they are trying to help people stay on board. i'll say it that way. they're trying to they're trying to help people stay on board. so i don't look i don't think it's not surprising that you would see the campaign reaching out to try to shore up the people who suggest that they have some power over the president that the delegates have power whether or well, i mean, ultimately they determine whether the president becomes the official nominee. although joe biden and has enough committed delegates at this point from the primary process to become the nominee on the first on the first ballot. but if you're the biden campaign, you don't want superdelegates out there saying, i'm not sure i can back him, so i don't i
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don't think it's an unreasonable thing for the campaign to do their legwork to try to ensure that the people who aren't currently committed remain committed. >> he's you know, what was interesting to me about what the congressman said was this idea of joe biden has the opportunity to save democracy a second time. >> he was quoting george clooney, i think this is really true. this joe biden look, i've been a republican my entire career who then went to bat really hard for joe biden in 2020. i thought he was the best person to take on donald trump. i think he has been a good president and i think he has a decent person i also have been totally flabbergasted by the way, that in light of the debate, they have decided to attack people to put a ton of pressure on people in congress to try to hold the line as opposed to sort of reckoning with what's in front of us and i think that joe biden could do the country. what is just an enormous service by recognizing what the voters recognize and giving democrats in his party and opportunity to re-energize things to turn this whole thing
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around. and he would go down in history as a selfless champion of democracy. and i think he risks his entire legacy by holding on on as tightly as he's trying to hold on right now. it isn't it was interesting to me, jeff, that the congressman said that the full court pressure campaign from biden has in some ways backfired with some members it has, but i think also important to keep in mind it's seems to have worked with other members like the congressional black caucus and others. >> so that potentially is the more complicated step here going forward. how does the unwind some of that support should that happen? but again, i know i'm repeating myself. this is still president biden's decision to make. and we can talk about it too. we're blue in the face and members going to get that guys. thank you very much for doing just that this morning with all of us and thanks to all of you. of course, for joining us this morning as well. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere cnn news central starts right now

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