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his dreadful debate and two days after his high-stakes news conference how much trouble is. joe biden still in then the clock is ticking washington and the political world still wondering who will donald trump pick as his vp and check it out targets new policy which does not make me happy. the panel is here and ready to go. so sit back, relax, and let's talk about up first, president biden is spending the weekend with family at his beach home as doubts continued to cloud his political future despite an all out effort this week to answer democrats concerns. there are still questions about his fitness and some in his party keep pushing him to drop out then another candidate would
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give us a much better chance to win. democrats still divided over whether joe biden should keep running, should that conversation continued no, it shouldn't. >> he's earned that, right and i am going to give him that much respect. the president's still firm. >> he's staying in i believe remember the best qualified to govern and i think i'm the best qualified to win. >> but with his party watching every move and word biden still committed some embarrassing gaff. president of ukraine. ladies and gentlemen, president putin. i wouldn't have picked vice president trump to be vice president i think she's i qualified to be president. >> we can't have a situation where every day we're holding our breath, a poll this week shows two-thirds of americans think biden should drop out all i can do is look at the numbers right now. no president has ever won with a 37% approval rating. but the window for a change is closing with just weeks left before delegates
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officially nominate biden. this needs to be resolved. i don't know in the next five to seven days, the president doesn't seem concerned if all of a sudden show up at the convention. everybody says we want somebody else as democratic process stock can happen here with me today, podcaster and author kara swisher, reihan salam, president of the manhattan institute and national review, contributing editor, new york times journalist and podcast host lulu garcia navarro. >> and conservative pollster in new york times columnist kristen soltis anderson. welcome back everyone. kristen, how much trouble is joe biden's still in? >> he's still in a lot of trouble because even though he gave a performance after the nato summit, that some people said was reassuring, he nevertheless, that night had a couple more defections from members if his own party in congress saying it's time to step aside the reality for joe biden is that every single thing he does from now until election day and beyond is going to be under incredible scrutiny. the slightest
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missteps are going to keep people being nervous. and it's going to make it hard for him to pivot to any kind of positive message that he will need to turn the polls around to make this a more competitive race that is truly winnable for him. >> but lulu, i want to focus, forget the election. let's focus first on the nomination. back in 1968, i saw a party turn on a president lyndon johnson and forced him to drop out of the race for reelection. i just don't feel that same urgency, that same unity as i did back in 1968. >> there is no unity. i think the democratic party right now is in a state of almost civil war. i mean, it's not pitchforks and a lot of anger, but there's certainly is a lot of i think feeling that they just don't know what the way forward is right now. they don't know quite what to do. the best-case scenario would have been if biden had said, you know what for the good of the party and the good of the
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country, i'm going to step down. i'm going to allow this process to go forward and it will be an organized process and war we'll have someone who will take over what lbj did in 1968. but this is not what clearly president joe biden is willing to do. and so that leaves the dissenters feeling that there might not be a path forward to removing him. >> let's get to this question of the party and what had house the will to do. there was a moment earlier figure this week when it seemed democrats might revolt. the president said, he was firmly committed to staying in this race to running this race to the end and to beating donald trump. but former speaker nancy pelosi refused to take that decision as final do you want him to run? >> i want him to do whatever he decides to do and that's that's the way it is kara will democrats force biden out, or will buy fall again, as i've said, biden leaving biden wants
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to leave and i think that was very deaf nancy pelosi, when he decides to do he did decide what when he decides to decide another decision, right. essentially, which she so clever in that regard, speaking of someone who is older, but she's a sharp as attack. he's got four options. one is he steps down and they win, right with a new thing. he's a hero one is he steps down and they lose. no one blames them. one is he doesn't step down and they lose. his legacy is diminished rather significantly. and the other is he wins, which is like, well great. were all wrong. jolt and joe, great, fantastic. >> so do you what's your feel right now? are the democrats going to get at the rack together and force him out? or are we going to see this civil war it's, it's kinda having a parent like this. >> i have apparent like this like it's just like you can't convince them unless they want to do it. and it's very, very difficult. so everyone's being very polite and try to push along the edges. i don't know. i think if he doesn't want to do it and the influence of 100 biden joe biden is really
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struggling, you know, sometimes the kids take the keys away from, you think i think contra biden should be in any of these meetings? >> i do not. nobody. no. but i'm not talking literally. i'm saying in other words, so nuns people stand up to the man, tried to get the keys away from but doesn't get all. this is the nuclear never we're all talking about this as like this elderly man that we need to respect and he's the president, but it's you know, he's the head of the fan. i was very struck by his comment during the press conference where he said the only thing that will make me step down as if the polls say i will lose and i thought i am very glad i am not joe biden's pollster right now because that woman who i know who's a lovely is the most powerful woman on planet earth right now this is insane, but ryan, do you see the democrats get biden to drop out movement? >> moving on or fall like folding, well with every day that passes, it becomes less and less likely that he can in
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fact be replaced as a practical matter, you're also seeing a really interesting ideological cleavage alexandria ocasio-cortez is making no bones about being very supportive of president and biden, if you look at ilhan omar, she's being very, very clear. she is not equivocating. she's not playing footsie with the idea of booting biden from office. it's really striking to see who is advantaged by where biden is right now and where the democratic party is right now. and who is disadvantaged by that? if you look at 20:28 contenders west more, they're very charismatic new governor of maryland. he's out there campaigning with joe biden, gavin newsom is nowhere near the idea that he is going to be the white knight who is going to save democrats. i think a lot of folks have decided that they would rather have donald trump back in the white house democrats romped in 2026 and then a lot of these folks believe, hey, wait a second. i'm going to have a clear shot at the presidency myself in 2028. that's a very
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sensitive folks that's a very cynical reading of what is going on in the democratic party i don't, i don't think that that i don't think any of them some are thinking about their ambitions. they don't think anyone saying that they're not thinking about their ambitions, but i don't think that anyone truly would like to see donald trump in the white house, the democratic party. and i also think the most interesting thing to me talking about sort of who would, who wants biden to stay is that donald trump and his team are desperate for biden to stay you have seen this over and over in statements that they've made quietly, they want to run against joe biden. they think they can beat joe biden and they do not want to see the democratic party switch horses. kara, i got to say that. i don't think the biden campaign has been especially effective so far. this last week, i thought they were brilliant in terms of won on monday coming out with that very strong statement, which i read earlier minute, i'm not leaving, i'm going to be trump. than reaching out to the congressional black caucus, which is called the conscience
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of the party on capitol hill. in getting their support. i mean they are making it as hard as possible for the democrats to coalesce around a get biden now, because you've got to come for them. you've got to come for me. what he's doing is waiting them out and that's that's the strategy. it looks like because it's very hard not to wait him out and someone's got to move and a lot of these people that i agree with you in part because i do think everyone's mind how do you letting figuring out what's four years from now, i assume. >> let me just break in. i want to get on one more subject, assuming that biden stays in and gets nominated, one of the questions is, can a climb out of the hole that he is in now that you talked about earlier, kristen? since the debate, the respected cook political report has moved its electoral college ratings in six contests away from biden towards trump can biden, turn it around by november? >> absolutely. anything is possible because we have an
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economy that could be getting better. donald trump could do anything between now and then. and an awful lot of americans don't like donald trump either. the best thing going for joe biden is the fact that he is not donald trump and that he's running against donald trump in an alternate universe where it's joe biden vs almost any other republican. i can't even imagine agile what the numbers would be. but it's always possible. anything's possible. we live in such polarized times that even with that absolutely disastrous debate performance, there were polls coming out this week that showed the race tied or chose not and so it is it is absolutely possible for joe biden correctly can biden turn this all oh, round. stick in, get the nomination and win reelection i think it's going to be a really tough slog. >> am i again, i'm with kristen that anything's possible. i read the polls and i'm like, i don't know what's going on half the time. i mean but i find it all very
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confusing. i am sort of like what, what should i be looking at? what should i be thinking? i respect pollsters very much, but i just think it's going to be very, very hard for him to win while biden's been dealing with his future, donald trump's been moving more to the middle on staunchly conservative issues. how long will he stay in the center lane then overruled. the new fissure, push in congress to limit the supreme court's immunity decision. and later, are you not entertained will find out who on the panel is excited? about a heavily anticipated sequel me raila go in your house we've heard all the pundits seen all the hot takes and read all the headlines but what's it like to hear from the people actually living the news? >> i'm audie cornish, long time journalists and my cnn podcast will break down
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milwaukee. cnn is live from milwaukee as republican unite behind their nominee, his vp, and their plans to take back the white house, follow cnn for complete he covered the republican national convention, starts monday at seven on cnn i'm melissa bell in paris and this is cnn all eyes will be on donald trump next week because republicans gather for their convention in milwaukee. and anxiously await trump's vp pick. but it's what trump has done and not done since the cnn presidential debate. that's raising some eyebrows democrat party is divided and chaos and having a full scale breakdown, donald trump reveled in joe biden's political firestorm at a rally this way. >> but since the cnn debate, two weeks ago, trump has kept a remarkably low profile. thank you. i am i hitting only one other campaign stop with a
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third scheduled for later today on characteristically letting his opponent had the spotlight amid calls for biden to step aside. the truth is, it doesn't matter who they nominate. >> trump also appearing to move more to the center on policy. i head of the republican you can convention approving a new party platform which drops the call for a federal abortion ban and removes language condemning the supreme court's legalization of same-sex marriage. a move many see as trump's way to win middle of the road. suburban voters that targeting moderates, it's common sense trump also distancing himself from project 2025, the 900 page conservative manifesto put together by trump allies, the calls for firing a federal employees and replacing them with trump loyalists. >> donald trump knows that what is written in this plan and so extreme that it is damaging to his possibility of getting elected so kara is trump has
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really changed, is he more? >> he certainly seems more disciplined as a really somewhat more moderate know he's just being more mendacious and he's just going toward the center because it suits him at the same time, i interviewed gretchen my governor whitmer from michigan this week and i asked her about the abortion shift, this exact shift, and host which version of donald trump do want to talk about? i think whatever he decides to do at the time is what he does and he probably doesn't remember them. so he's trying to do that, but no one believes that he knows about project 2025 e. there's video now with him saying he knows about it. he just whatever suits the moment he says and he's hoping for people not to remember, which is actually a good bet in america. sometimes lie khan has trump really changed or is he just listening to a bunch of really smart campaign advisors who were saying, you can't keep wanting the base over and over again, you got to expand you're appeal. >> well my sense is that he is now fully in charge and so this platform really reflects his
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fixations, obsessions, and sensibilities. he is not changing. he was always more moderate on these issues in the party and back in 2016, when he made mike pence is running mate. he felt he needed to accommodate those elements lens as someone just coming from outside the party and wanted that legitimacy one of that support. now he feels rightly or wrongly that he has such thorough going control over the party that he can shift the party in the direction of his gut instincts. but what will actually get him to win? i'll also say briefly on project 2020, donald trump isn't saying that he does not know oh, about project 25. he said that he finds aspects of it absurd and ridiculous. so he did say he didn't know about project 2025, but i also you said that parts that he saw, i don't know what it is he said, but i also want to also southern else we want to just say something else, which is i do think that there is a genius and the gop platform that he put out, which is especially on the issue of abortion. >> this idea that he's moderated, that this is somehow a new version of the gop platform out of now you should
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no conversation she kept up what he talked about in that was fetal personhood. he talked about the 14th amendment, which is this idea but it is going to be a federal issue if on abortion, he said it specifically easily bring it to the state, know that was but no there were both things in there. they said they were i literally just read this. they're both things in there. and the whole point of that is that appeases both sides. if you talk to people who are pro-life, they are ecstatic with what that said because it was a nod and a wink to a federal abortion ban. and then of course they put the states in there too. so that people who might have a more moderate position can also be john, who understands donald trump better. so look, he said that this is a 14th amendment question which is why it is up to this states, which is what he has consistently said. >> but what do you that's not what i think is what the constitution, you can't have something that a states rights and also a constitutional issue.
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>> so what he's saying and what you're seeing from the pro-life movement is an effort to get on the right side of the person who is the central most important figure in the republican party party right now, what i've heard from a lot of folks on the pro-life side is frankly, anxiety, panic frustration, and disappointment because he's very much in charge. okay. this raises the question, however, this is the campaign. >> now, we're talking about what happens if trump wins in november the party platform he just pushed through is more moderate on social issues while hard line on immigration and tariffs. but the aforementioned project 2025 calls for a sharp limits on abortion. and for instance, giving the white house more influence over the justice department. so kristen, if he wins who, which trump are we going to see campaign trump or first-term trump in front to, you know, when it comes to governing personnel is policy to the extent that they're entities out there who are accumulating people who believe in donald trump's vision or
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want to have a lot of policy or power and the federal government that will have a big impact. the president himself does not decide everything at the same time. i think donald trump is somewhat more moderate than what we think of as a classical conservative. he's exposed that in his first term, but he's not moderate in terms of temperament. so when it comes to things like, am i going to go after my opponents he's been pretty clear that yes, he intends to do that even if on the policy stuff he is a little bit more choose your own adventure, won indication. you're talking about policy being personnel. he's got to pick a vice president than the next few days. and we have a record of where all you guys were back in may. let's take a look, right. hon you said doug burgum, governor of north dakota in may. do you want to change your mind? >> there are many, many indications pointing to ohio senator jd vance. i'm still going to stick with burgum so i do think the bergen brings a lot to the table. i think it's going to be burgum, but man all of the smoke as jd vance right now, lulu, you said darker
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senator marco rubio in may. now you say now i say senator marco rubio is similar to him. there's a lot of discussion about jd vance, but i think rubio brings more to the ticket again, same reasoning. he's latino. he is, you know, is a good talker and is someone that people trust christian. two months ago you predicted congresswoman elise stefanik are you striking whether well, i feel like this has turned into a fantasy football drafted just left the number one draft pick on the table. so i'm changing to jd vance. i believe that all of that discussion that we're hearing about him as somebody who can really be a torchbearer for trumpism in the future is probably accurate. the lineup for the rnc that that night seems to be very ohio trumpian. i'll just say i think vance kara senator tim scott, and i know how much you like to admit. you're wrong. so are you sticking with scott? >> no, no, no, it's gonna be jd vance really? i think one point
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i did say jd know. >> you said scott. scott just got which for bud point about how much you right. saying. >> no. i think it's jd vance. it is interesting that one of his biggest backers comp, is, is donald trump jr. and he's gonna be speaking that by just before the vice president he's? >> confident he's going to win right now that jd vance is the pick of a candidate who's confident they're going to win burgum is, we've really appeal in the midwest at wakes we don't, you won't want to miss the panel's hot takes on the republican convention when they hit me with their best shots later in the program but first, not so fast, the supreme court's immunity decision. >> now the target of a longshot move on capitol hill oh, i'm good. you just hear scurry
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prosecution for official acts during his tenure in office donald trump called it a big win while the case was directly related to trump's role in the january 6 insurrection. the court's decision is having a ripple effect on all of the trump prosecutions for instance, trump's team has now looking to use the ruling as grounds to throw out his criminal conviction and the new york hush money trial reihan, should congress overrule the supreme court on presidential immunity? >> i think the challenge for congress, that challenge for leader schumer is that i don't actually think they can do this. the fundamental problem here is that attorney general merrick garland was really reluctant to bring a case in the first place to come two-and-a-half years to do it when they fall finally, did they basically put together a case that was really hard to sustain and i think the supreme court would have been totally fine with a prosecution had it been under a well-defined, clear statute instead, it's
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something that did involve acts that the president took that we're already clearly well i'll defined as official the president can actually sack people that he's appointed under his executive power. so that was the big problem here. the case itself was a mask and they forced the supreme court's hands, given the filibuster in the senate and republican control of the house, schumer's effort will almost certainly fail but we've lived without presidential immunity for the life of this country kara should congress step in and overrule the core? well, i think your first part is that they're not going to whether they should or not possibly charged can do anything he wants. and that's the whole that's the role of the legislature to do that, but they're not going to it's sort of reminds me of tech regulation. it's just not happening. they showed, but it isn't so chief justice roberts not only wrote this decision back in 2016 he wrote for a unanimous court overturning the conviction of former virginia governor bob mcdonnell for accepting big loans and expensive gifts roberts said,
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our concern is not with tawdry tales of ferraris, rolexes, and ball gowns. it is instead with the broader legal implications of the government's boundless interpretation of the federal bribery statute lulu, when you look at the immunity ruling and you look at the mcdonald ruling, which very sharply limit aid the ability to prosecute bribery is the supreme court basically giving politicians of get-out-of-jail- free card. yeah. i love that quote. it's my it's just this wonderful quote where it says you know what, if you give people all the rolex's, ferrari's, it doesn't matter that isn't bribery. it doesn't matter what, what our political elected officials do. i think that actually speaks for itself where this supreme court puts its emphasis. it is more concerned with federal overreach than it is with actual corruption preston, when
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you look at what the court has done on presidential immunity, what it's done on corruption cases have they gone too far in protecting politicians? well, what it feels like these opinions are always saying is the supreme court begging legislatures to write better laws and whether it was with this bribery case or i think about things like them throwing out chevron deference. i mean, this is not a court that wants to be in the bill business of making big decisions that their overriding elected officials, they want the legislature to be legislating clearly and us and they're begging chuck schumer to much on interference is not an official act. well, what they have been saying is that actually they there's a supreme court. we're uninterested in the decision of what constitutes an official act. same way that they're handling that institution away, abortion business. they wanted to get out of the abortion business with when they overturned roe. and of course
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that's not right, that they wanted to add it back to state legislatures out. what's happened is indeed what's happened. and i think that when you're looking at this case in particular, there were better on the abortion business than they've ever been. there been more abortion cases since they they ended roe versus wade whenever whenever you move on to a new legal regime, just nothing you saw. there. there's going to be a moment when you are going to settle it. but fundamentally what you're seeing happen is this is being settled through the political process in state after state, you're seeing referendums, you're seeing laws that are being passed to clarify the law. and that i think one of the supreme court to challenge it. i want to move on. trump's lawyers now say the hush money conviction should be thrown out because the jury heard evidence about what he did as president. and they're challenging the classified documents case because they say that involves actions trump took as president, even though he took them to mar-a lago as an ex ex-president so reihan is trump off the hook legally? >> no, i don't think he is. i think that if you have
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prosecutors who are doing things under well-defined statutes that our clear and have some meaningful legal precedent. i think the supreme court is going to be entirely fine with that. the real issue here was that jack smith's case was one that was sweeping overly broad, and i think that merrick garland knew it because he's a decent guy, very experienced. and that's why he only took this on two-and-a-half years and under intense pressure from the white house. >> but what the situation you've got now kara is according to the supreme court ruling and even amy coney barrett wouldn't go along with us. is you can't even use evidence of what the president did as president and official act to indicate that he in fact broke the law. that's correct. it's a mess and. absolutely is. and it may be it does call for legislative clarity. i mean, eventually we should have our legislators decide these things, not the supreme court. i think even this supreme court shouldn't be coming in on this stuff. it should be legislatures dividing deciding things clearly. but the problem is our legislators can't decide
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on lunch dams and disarray the gop was in disarray it did they just nothing can get past. and so that's the issue. >> preston, are you comfortable with the where this stands now and the end the supreme court saying that for instance, you can eat not only can you not be prosecuted for official acts, but you can't use official acts. if they were done in service of committing a crime, i feel like the amy coney barrett opinion in that case it's probably the closest to the mark for where i'd like to have seen things end up where she did make a few statements, for instance, i don't actually think this election interference stuff counts as an official act a little bit more clarity on what constitutes official might have been helpful, but it's clear the majority did not want to touch that from bidding the rap to bidding the heat. the new way to stay cool, that's become a fashion trend. blash, put your pens away, targets, new rule aiming to end an old tradition something is coming to look at
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