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everyone, and welcome to the amanpour hour. here's where we're headed this week up first from a mental standpoint, the last time i saw him, he seemed fine to me. >> america's most recognizable dr. anthony fauci on what he's witnessed about age in the executive branch and also the next possible pandemic. also this hour how biden can change he's the conversation. i think the truth is, every time is on tv at the moment, you can have have your house in your mouth concerns about trump's rambling rallies. if donald trump were just a dribbling tool i'd be a lot less worried and how to lose elections and still be gracious. we can argue vigorously as a prime minister, and i did over the past six weeks, but still respect each other. >> then exclusive cnn reporting reveals israeli forces deemed abusive by the united in states and now shaping the campaign in gaza then as another tennis

great calls game set and match on his career. from my archive, serena williams on retirement double-standards. and what it takes mr. be the best and every time we overcame that challenge, he created venus and serena. and finally hip hop meets high highbrow in a collaboration that's been 30 years in the making welcome to the program, everyone. i'm christiane amanpour in london, looming over the gathering of world leaders at the dc nato summit this week was the uncertainty about president biden's future and a potential second trump term. questions about biden's age and fitness have consumed both campaigns with biden's attempt to assuage those got to go fears at a press conference and trump's mocking him on the campaign trail. but the fact remains that at 81 and 78, both counts so well into their

retirement years and showing signs of mental slippage leading to calls for more transparency about their health. one person who has witnessed each candidates ability to serve in a time of prices and who's worked under both administrations also happens to be america's most recognizable doctor antony fauci is an immunologist and the longtime director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases he's advised every american president since ronald reagan on these matters and famously presided over the country's covid-19 crisis during both trump and biden's first term. he's just britain, a new memoir called on call a doctor's journey in public service. and there was a lot to ask about presidential fitness and possible future pandemics. when i caught up with him this week dr. fauci, welcome back to our program. >> thank you very much. it's good to be with you. so am i do have to start by asking you because you have worked with

every president going back to reagan, i think reagan was quite elderly, but president biden is 81 president trump is 78 or so. what do you make of the hullabaloo? two around biden his age? the debate performance right now, did you have any concerns when you were working for him not at all. christiane, i worked with him for two years. that ended in december of 2022 when i had extensive meeting with him i believe in january or february of 2023. and at that point, which was the last time i spoke to him he was fine. i mean, obviously, i mean, he is someone who physically is not as vigorous as he used to be when he was younger, but from a mental standpoint, the last time i saw him which i meant which i mentioned is in the early part of 2023, he seemed fine to me, so i can't really comment about any personal

interaction since that time. you must have been surprised as a doctor to see the debate performance yeah. >> i mean, that was that was very unfortunate. i mean, i think everyone who watched that was was very concerned about what was going on there. was that just he was not feeling very well. who is fatigued from traveled, did he have a cold? did he take a medication that made him knocked out a bit like you doing to take a call? i don't know the answer to any of those questions, and i'm not in a position to find the answer to those questions. i think others will his staff and others who are with him right now how do you think? how should we think about age and leadership? and when is the right time to call it today? when you're in positions of maximum power and responsibility christiane it really isn't individual thing. as you mentioned, i'm at three, right now. i feel certainly physically not like i

used to be able to run marathons, which i did years ago. i mean, i exercise very regularly and vigorously every single day. but from a mental state and point, i feel as sharp as i was, at least the last time that i was in a situation running a big institute. so i feel fine as far as i'm concerned, it's an individual thing and you can't generalize because people age very differently. there are some 65 people why know, who really looked like they just can't function in any manner or form that's important. and as you mentioned, i'm at three and i feel fine. i feel like can do what i need to do in the position that i'm in and so everybody also wants to know not just about this age issue, but also about your time in the spotlight during covid i mean, you who dealt with president trump and he really has said some pretty extraordinary things throughout his presidency. and he continues to say really extraordinary things

that some people can't even decipher. and of course, everybody remembers the bleach situation. so i'm just going to play this and i want to talk to you about it. >> i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. one minute. and is there a way we can do something like that injection inside or, or almost a cleaning because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number of alleged so it'll be interesting to check that so that you're going to have to use medical doctors with. but it sounds it sounds interesting to me. >> what do you think was going through his mind and what did you talk to him about afterwards regarding the comment? so i write about this in the memoir, president trump so much wanted the covid, outbreak pandemic to disappear in march and april because he wanted to act like flu. it was very, very disturbing to him

because aid, the economy was being impacted and he was focusing on the election cycle so what do you did is that he would hope that it would go away in march, the beginning of april, when it didn't he said things that were not true. he said it would go away, like magic. and that's when i had to be in the painful position to publicly contradict him and say no, it's not going to go away when he became clear to him that it wasn't going to go away, he started grabbing for magic elixirs to essentially cure it. hence, we had hydroxychloroquine even though there was no evidence that hydroxychloroquine worked in fact, in my hurt people and then when he heard from the purpose from homeland security that this bleach issue could get rid of the virus from other surfaces. he went way out of his line and said, well, maybe we could use it in people. he was desperately looking for a

solution to get rid of covid. but the solution wasn't there. and he said things that were completely not true in order to get the public to start thinking that maybe things are not that bad. did you ever have any concerns about out his cognitive abilities in particularly now, honestly, he is saying things in public that you can barely decipher. >> yeah. i again christiane, i had my last interaction with him in the last month last couple of months of his presidency. i didn't detect any cognitive issues. i just was very perplexed by the lack of facts and honesty and things that he said. so it was less cognitive ability than it was honesty ability. but he used to you, right you see yell at you about how you're also so costing him or the country trillions of dollars. but then you write that he would always, you know, afterward say, but

you and i were we're good, right. what was that dynamic? what was that relationship? >> you know, he was from queens. i'm from brooklyn. we had that kind of new york city rapport with each other we got along very well. so as the months went by early on, there was no problem between us, but as the months went by and i had a contradict things he was saying that he would call me up and yell at me and saying, what do you do when you got to be more positive? but i think deep down, he really didn't want a conflict with me. and that's the reason why he would always say even when he would be yelling at me on the phone at night, he would end it up by saying, we're still okay. tony right? we're good. so even though he said were good, things are okay his staff started to undermine me and try to reduce and actually diminish my credibility in the white house and just want to end by asking you, what do you fear in

terms of the future of pandemic? we know the cdc is warning about a global surge of dangling fever bird flu is currently spreading through dairy cows in the u.s. and apparently for dairy workers have tested positive. what what is your what was sending out the red lights for you and unfortunately, my worst nightmare came true with covid what i think about my next worst nightmare is a repeat of what we've just seen, whether that's a pandemic influenza or another coronavirus that's respiratory born, that efficiently spreads from person to person. >> and that could make you very sick and kill you. that's the thing that could be a devastating pandemic. there were very few other infections that don't have those characteristics of easy transmissibility and a degree of morbidity and mortality. >> and so it's great to talk to you, doctor fauci. thank you so much. indeed, on all is your new book. thank you so much

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the gun to someone your own size. shark week hosted by me, john cena it's been night at 8:00 on this gunman. now this is a holiday welcome back to the program president biden is under increasing pressure to step aside this weekend, and the democrats are stuck in a catch 20 stay loyal to the president and hope for the best or go public and push him out. >> all of this just a month from the democratic convention. and by the way what is the impact or the little to no coverage of trump's often incoherent ramblings, his cognitive frailty, and the threats that he poses to the republic joining me this week, alice to campbell, famously chief spokesman and political strategies under british prime minister tony blair. he's also an author and now a successful podcast host and david frum who is a political commentator and

a former speech writer for president george w bush, as well as senior editor at the atlantic gentlemen, welcome to you both. thank you. i'm look, i want to start by asking you what it looks like alice does since you're here in front of me from this side of the atlantic, the new prime minister, labour, prime minister keir starmer, just went to the white house, ended the nato summit, had a nice conversation with biden, seem to all go well, they talked about the trans-atlantic lines what's going through your mind when you, when you see this going on? >> well, first of all, obviously from a personal perspective, very, very happy that there's a labor prime minister back in power. and i think we've got a return to serious grown-up politics after the chaos of the last few years but i think with joe biden, i speak with somebody as somebody who's incredibly fond of them and has huge respect from actually think he's got a very, very good record. i think the truth is, every time is on tv at the moment, you have your heart in your mouth. you feel like you're on tender hooks as to what is going to say, how he's going to say it and i think when the world is in such

a mess, when there are so many big challenges that are, that are being faced by the world and people still look to the united states for leadership in the fact that we're talking about this day after day after day as you and i think your point there by them and that is my point that's right. and now i'm going to play for both of you to comment on one of the latest trump clips where he's talking at a rally or at a public appearance and it's kind of hard to discern by the way, a lot of shark attacks lately did notice that a lot of shock. >> but you know what i do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, i'll take electrocution every single time. i can hear the shark so we could end that. i'm sorry, david. i'm actually laughing. do you get it what was he saying and should not we be equally concerned about this kind of incoherence if donald trump's only problem, we're being verbally incoherent or having strange fears, phobias about sharks. i would say we had done a good day's work and

we could knock off the program. that's not the problem the problem is that donald trump tried in 2021 to organize a coup against him election first by fraud, then by violence and he's unrepentant and he makes it very clear that he wants to do it again worsen that last time donald trump was in government. he had a somewhat skeptical and somewhat distant republican party that often blocked and defeated him. for example, when he tried to put weirdos on the federal reserve. now he's got a supreme court packed with allies that he said he has more or less immunity from any criminal activity. so we are in radical phase of democratic deterioration in the united states. if donald trump were just a dribbling fool i'd be a lot less worried but here's the thing. those who like you concerned about that and about the real substance of the issue at hand all the sort of heard that is baying for biden to go saying it is about democracy. and we don't think biden is up to be able to challenge trump it's true.

biden is not good or effective spokesman for his views i think a lot of americans are under the perception of the countries in a grip of inflation and chaos. we actually are now having, we've had disinflation. we're on our way to deflation. and meanwhile, crime is tending trendy down just about everywhere in the country and just about all forms of crime. the american job market has not been this tight since at least the late 1960s, possibly not since the second world war, the reason we have an immigration problem and we do is because the united states is flashing a giant, were hiring sign to the whole rest of the planet and the rest of the planet understands their hiring in the united states, americans seem to have lost sight of that so president biden is not able to make that case for himself. that's a problem. but the case is there to be made out of, you were the major communicator and strategist about policy and it is true as david says, that the indicators favor biden. he's been an incredibly successful president so if he stays in,

what does he have to do that he's not doing now? >> well, it has to get out from under this kind of cloud that is surrounding him at the moment and you've had elderly parents. i've had elderly parents. the truth is that once you get to a state that he seems to be an you don't get better and so i think i don't see how he gets out from under that. and the point that i think is being lost in this is that an i completely agree with everything that david says, by the way, trump is a complete abomination this matters the entire world and if he comes back, i think democracy in america under threatening democracy in america is under threat. we've got problems right around the world biden saint himself. well, i've done it before. i can do it again. a lot of the democrat party say, well, no, you can't do it again because you're not in great shape. so find the person who is best placed to beat trump and get them in there. imagine the sort of half that would give to a democrat strategy. then you can tell the story better than it's been told now that and therein lies

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3,700 welcome back to the program. a cnn investigation has revealed that former commanders of a controversial israeli military unit accused of heinous human rights violations against palestinians. and now serving in senior positions in the idf what's more these commanders from the netzah yehuda battalion and now training israeli ground troops and leading operations inside gaza cnn's katie polglase obtained rare whistleblower testimony from a former soldier who describes a shocking culture of violence that went all the way to the top this is the netzah yehuda battalion and israeli army unit showcasing then minutes and might in a premium personal training video but the unit has a decades-long history of abusing palestinians in the west bank. and the americans

know it you will high state department investigation found they had committed gross human rights violations but this finding never lead to us sanctions. even media reports of possible sanctions outraged israel and mutual hush serve through hala till sunk totality debate. son and yellow him berserk the whole cohort so despite their track record, the netzah yehuda battalion is still receiving amount hurricane arms and is now operating in gaza. >> we tracked down one former soldier from the unit in a rare interview, he remembers fellow soldiers bragging about their excessive violence towards palestinians we've hidden his identity and voice as he fears reprisals. >> there were some kids throwing rocks in a small village that normally isn't a big deal. but the company commander decided, let's throw them a party. so they took the emergency response team and 20 soldiers. they walk door to door, throwing flash-bangs and gas grenades into people's homes as a punishment for the

kids throwing rocks, collective punishment? yes. collective punishment. the commander said it was funny tass stick to see the look on their faces. >> when we look at those abuses that have happened in that. so you heard over the years there's a chain of command here what responsibility does the battalion commander, the person at the very top, what responsibility does that come on to have for what happened? >> i think he has all the responsibility if these commanders don't put their foot down and punish them for their behavior, then they are in fact condoning their behavior he told us his years in the battalion changed his outlook completely he now feels compelled to speak out about the battalions mistreatment of palestinians the offices he's talking about follow a chain of command. what happens under their watch is their responsibility but despite this, we found some of these same commanders who were in charge when allegations of human rights abuses emerged, have been promoted again and

again. and to senior roles in the idf using facial recognition technology, cnn found this commander, lieutenant colonel neeti, oh, cachee now in gaza in a senior role running ground operations back in 2019, he ran the netzah yehuda battalion and wasn't charged when these soldiers seen here laughing as they'd beat and humiliates a palestinian man and his son both arrested for assisting the killer of two fellow netzah yehuda soldiers their journey to the police station left the father with three broken ribs five related jailed for their actions, and ilaha get that commander. okay. cachee told investigators while he condemned the violence, he said deploying the soldiers was necessary. very to make the killer pay and to create a sense of success among the fighters you remained as commander and has been promoted since but a cachee is not the

only netzah yehuda commander with a dark past i know who killed them had goodness i'm a see much of this is lieutenant colonel matty shebaa rousing troops before a deployment left for dead. this elderly palestinian american man omar assad, here lying on the ground bound and blindfolded as a soldier watches on his death, the idf admitted a moral failure but no soldier faced charges for his death and their commander faced only a reprimand, yet still, he was later promoted. >> now training israeli ground troops, preparing to enter gaza, even featuring in high-profile interviews with american media boasting of his soldiers enthusiasm for war, no major concern for more to the story well, there's we're going to have to stop we asked the man previously in charge of investigating the netzah yehuda is abuses for the u.s.

government. what he made of these promotions, that is very bad news. that shows first of all, that israel, that the government of israel has no intention of holding the netzah yehuda battalion accountable he says the u.s. >> does not following their own laws by sending them weapons. >> of course, we treat israel differently and that really undermines our human rights advocacy and the rest of the world, the law that congress passed and our taxpayer funded assistance is going to israeli units that have committed gross violations of human rights this assistance, despite the growing evidence of abuse cnn exclusively obtained the names of three more israeli units found by us officials to have committed gross human rights violations prior to october 7 all are still operating, including the yamam seen here in gaza in an operation that

rescued four israeli hostages, but left nearly 300 palestinians dead, according to local health authorities, the israeli military dispute that the toll was so high as the death and destruction mouth. >> it is us weaponry quoting these units begging the question for how much longer will israel's greatest ally choose to turn a blind eye katie polglase, cnn, london cnn has reached out to the idf to israel's border police and to the u.s. state department for comment, the idf told us the netzah yehuda battalion operates in a professional and ethical manner and in accordance with the idf's orders and protocols they said they examine every exceptional incident and take disciplinary measures when appropriate. the state department told us they do not comment on individual cases, but say all us assistance to israel is consistent with domestic and international law still to come

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in the uk, the wimbledon tennis championships are in full swing with the finals taking center stage this weekend. >> and fans are saying farewell to some of the sports greatest legends. one of them is three time grand slam champion andy murray murray who played his final wimbledon this year, known for his unapologetic feminism and unwavering support of women. he leaves a powerful tennis legacy and tennis titan, serena williams, fant murray for being such a staunch defender also hold a special place in my heart to you because you always speak out so much for women and like everything that women deserve, the two of them famously played together in the 2019 wimbledon mixed doubles. and from my archive this week, as we mark their storied careers, part of my interview with serena just a few months before her own retirement in 2022, does it take you off that people keep asking you this question? is it

too much pressure? is it unreasonable? do you think that you've had enough of people asking you this question about the record? as our friend says, fresh is a privilege. there you go. baby jeanne what's the alternative is having someone asked about no record? you know, and i think i think that's a privilege. i would rather you asked me that to be clear any day. you anyone is allowed to ask me that any day as opposed to the alternative of having three years, six or ten 1015 yeah. so i enjoy that. good. obviously, you guys stand out because you are the two great black female champions, althea gibson, of course, was the trailblazer, but nonetheless it is as you said, a white sport how did you perceive that? how did you get over that so we we changed it from being too great black

champions to being the best ever period and that's what we did we took out color and we just became the best. and that's records are not like it is proof and that's it is what it is. we change the sport, we change the fashion, we changed how people think. we changed our people think in business before when we play tennis and we wanted to do something different, it was frowned upon. and yet we had to play the harder and we had to be better. but it made us better at the end of the day everything every time we faced a challenge and every time we overcame that challenge, it created venus and serena. >> sometimes you have shown anger on the court and you've you've had to well, you have had booing on the court as well. and i just wonder what you think about that. not just as a black athlete, but also as a woman. and whether you think

some of the others have had the fines and punishments that you have had, for instance we just seems very i mean, literally with his racket but hanging the umpires chair to the point that the fbi had to move his legs out of the way? yeah. how do you talk talk to me about that? what happens? what cracks would cracks an individual that and then and then the difference proved maybe how you did like venus is so frustrating playing her because she's like so even khloe, she's a just like, why don't you angry at me? i'm too opposite. i'm just like you it's just my personality. i think everyone is different and it's not necessarily about cracking. i think it's just more about passion and just person it just boils down your purse, ally, like i am who i am on the court and off the court. i'm very passionate about what i do. i'm passionate about

everything and so that answers that side. but there is absolutely a double-standard. i would probably be in jail if i did that, like literally no joke so yeah. i mean, i was i was actually on probation once. whatever duty get probation suit was yeah. you know what i will not going to go will go that route, not going to go standard that's true. korea you know, you see that when you see other things happening on the tour, like wait, if i entered done that but it's okay at the end of the day, i i am i am. >> i love why ym and i love like, i love the impact that i've had on people. i love the impact that i continue to have on people. >> and this is the first year since 1996, but both serena under sister venus are absent at wimbledon but they've certainly left their mark obviously for ages to come.

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picking up where we left off with my panel this weekend, british political strategists, alice to campbell and a us presidential adviser, david frum. david, i want to get to you just quickly before we move on to some below the folds. i spoke to heather cox richardson then who talked about what happens when you dump a candidate. and of course she was referring to johnson. let me just play what she said. >> i don't care if we elect biden or harris or anybody else. i care that we recognize that running currently against that ticket is something somebody who was trying to destroy our country. if you change presidential nominee at this point in the game, the candidate loses the reason joe biden is president and hillary clinton never got there was because joe biden cut in half donald trump's advantage among men. >> biden still lost two men, lost man to trump but he did it by half and half as badly as hillary clinton did. and that was just enough to make the

difference in the election of 2020 as compared to 2016. now, my question is can democrats honestly think in those terms, which really is the best candidate to defeat biden. they, they tell themselves a lot of hopeful semi truths designed to encourage action. they see as virtuous, but they are not as serious of a gaining and exercising power as republicans are on that node. extreme polarized and divisions we were somewhat taken and it has been reported that rishi sunak, the losing prime minister in this last british election, when he went to parliament for the first time, offers sitting on the opposition side, he was actually quite generous and magnanimous. i'm going to play this little clip in our politics. we can argue vigorously as a prime minister, and i did over the past six weeks, but still respect each other and whatever disputes we may have in this parliament i know that everyone in this house will not lose sight of the fact that we are all motivated by our desire to serve our constituents, our

country, and advance the principles that we honorably believe in. >> what does it say to you the generosity and the civility with which she address the incoming prime minister. >> well, it certainly shows that the transition in the uk is faster and better handled and the transition that we had that lead to the the riot at the capitol. and i think as you've rishi sunak was probably thinking for himself, i want to leave. well, he actually spoke well, there. he spoke well so danny street and he spoke well at the count in his constituency. but he came on the back of a campaign where they were knocking lumps of each other. >> david, we wanted to do some below the fold just out of interest. there's so much that gets oxygen. what is, you know, what caught your attention this week? well, i pay a lot of attention to mexican politics. >> i think the delta on its importance to the united states and the attention it gets from the united states that the gap in mexico is the greatest of

any. i just want to add one thing to viewers attention. there was a recent at the beginning of july, there's a major election of mexico, the authoritarian nationalist morena party, won. they want a big enough majority in congress and changes the constitution. the new congress takes power on 1 september. the old president doesn't leave office until the 30 september. there's going to be a month where lopez obrador, a man who's mexican trump, is going to have the power to amend the mexican constitution almost at will. it's going to be a very, very dangerous month for mexico and for all of mexico's partners will keep an eye on that. and alice, do you well, i took that taylor swift i know the taylor swift is not that it's not it doesn't get enough coverage. >> she gets a lot of coverage. but i was in singapore not long ago when she was there. i've also been in europe when she's been here and the swift-onomics thing, the impact that she has wherever she goes now is absolutely phenomenal. so in singapore, for example, they were paying very large sums of

money, the government paying large sums of money to taylor swift, not to go to other countries in the region because they wanted just to be in singapore. she went to do three days. she ended up doing six days. and the impact on the singaporean economy. we are talking hundreds of millions as if it needed more of an a thriving. but they're thinking about a likewise here so it's not, maybe not quite as serious as being hit palaces, being here for this thing is really interesting. and i agree abloh is a real big problem in mexico, but i think swift-onomics, you need to get their christian with will get there. >> we've been there allister campbell. thank you so much. david frum. thank you so much. when we come back life imitates odd in a musical collaboration, not taylor swift, but this one nearly 30 years in the making

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