important because we also need the help of the public if they see something during this time or feel uncomfortable something, please let us know. let your local law enforcement agencies now or the fbi want to hear call the fbi right just to be clear, you not security plan based on the events yesterday there have been no changes to our current operational security plans why not the fascination so again, this is designated as a national special security event, so it is an 18 month process that it involves all levels of government that are contributing to the operational security plans for this event. so we have an operational security plan that's built out for every area of responsibility hey, related to

any and all aspects of security related to this event four, officers i can just reiterate what i said for in terms of what the city of milwaukee has done, our counsel in conjunction with me, ask to sign a local ordinance to make sure that there's more protection in the outer perimeter? as it relates to officers from across the state, wisconsin are elsewhere coming in to assist with public safety around the side, deferred to keep no chance make sure there's more protection in the outer perimeter i'm. sorry

what does that look like on the ground what so the ordinance said, i'm referring to that. we had passed proactively at the local level, which is by the way the same ordinance, a saint partners to be passed in preparation for the democratic national convention when it was sick place in milwaukee in 2024, becoming mostly virtual events is order that does not allow individuals spring and into the outer perimeter hard items like cans, bottles that are filled other hard as they can be used to project power it says things like that from the outset of here but i would imagine that was what secret

service and long bodies are their shoulders to or what? graff was already honored so they said there's no known specific or articulate hey, threat to the rnc or any specific individual attending. >> as you'd expect after the match yesterday, we've seen an uptick in social media. chatter. people talking about what happened, and we some, the lead for all intelligence matters related to the rnc, the fbi. we have valuate all of that to make sure that the trends into criminal activity or threat-based information, we evaluate that and again, and then outdoor federal and state partners for action right? there with box in milwaukee too. you know, we've heard from delegates who agree for visitors about level of fear following what happened yesterday beyond the fact that he has planned for this for 18 months, what's your message to them about safety and security

said take that on as we talk about these particular types of plans, especially in regards to what we've seen across the nation, what we doing here? >> i don't know if we're comparing events in the same manner what we've seen in regards to the past or again rallies or town halls. they don't receive the same level of support this she receives and that's the maybe hard to kind of wrap around regards to the type of resources had been invested in in this particular community again, can not talk about the operations of it. but as you're leader in this community i've seen the work. we work together again, not only from the standpoint, a federal level, but again, my local partners. and seeing that type of investment in regards to what is being done we are planning as much as we can plan in regards to what we know and we looking for what we don't

know. but we are planned and actually ready with the resources this is our community to and looking at from the standpoint i want to make sure that they understand. we see you. we understand this is something of a concern. and we are ensuring that we are going to put the proper effort the proper type of communication, which is why in this particular forum is why we have it to ensure that there's a communication from this collective group we're working as hard as we can around the clock putting forth the effort as necessary not only for this rec before city as the chief executive of our police department, here is important that we are also understand the concern in our city. so this is for those who attain the rnc but we are taking care of this city period okay.

>> you have been listening to the press conference there for law enforcement talking about their plans for the rnc. so the fbi, wisconsin chiefs secret service officer in charge of the entire rnc, as well as in milwaukee police as wolf and i were listening to this along with all of you they did not take questions about what happened yesterday and the takeaway from all of them was that there are no changes to the security plans for the rnc in light of what happened yesterday, they did not answer as to whether that meant anything for the president himself or his family? and also no changes to a perimeter, which of course as they emphasized in an open carry state like wisconsin, could be very consequential. so juliette kayyem, chief charles ramsey, obviously, you know, we've been talking to you throughout these these couple of hours. julia, from your perspective, is former homeland security. did you like what you heard there? not really. don't tell you. i

listen. i am completely sympathetic with the police chief. he has a city to protect but we're watching this. we're watching this because the former president was almost assassinated. it's not like we're going to just watch any press security press conference. so two things i want to say. one is governor first could do something right now. he clearly has emergency authorities. any governor does the police chief and the mayor's hands are tied about the open carry rules. the governor could do a four-day exception to the rule based on increased an exceptional evidence there is a heightened threat. an increase the rules or tightened the rules around open carry near the convention center. this seems relatively easy to do. it's not an exceptional power. so urging governor evers and you might have that might have been what they were hinting to do that under his under emergency authorities would be absolutely appropriate at this stage. the

second is, of course, the secret service they have what they called an nssc a national special security event. those are the highest rankings they come with months and months of planning. these conventions are on the calendar well in advance, they know what to do and they are working with federal when state and local law enforcement to plan. but i am not i am i am hard pressed to understand why you would create an nssc that is not adaptable to the threat that we now know exist, right? so the secret service woman was saying, you know we feel confident this is the highest purity. former president was almost assassinated yesterday's surely, you would want to look at the planning and possibly increase it for this convention. and the next, the nsse is not static in time it adapts to a different threats, and that's if there was a confusing press conference that's the that's what i'll say. >> juliette, you make very, very strong points and like

you, i was surprised when i heard audrey gibson chiquito the secret service coordinator for this republican national convention in milwaukee, say that no operational changes are now in the works as, far as as a result of what happened yesterday, the assassination attempt against the former president, no operational changes are in the works right now. she says there's a comprehensive security plan that's been in place. we're ready to go. they've worked at this for 18 months and they're confident in the plans shimon prokupecz, you're there, you were listening to this news conference that jumped out at me that even as a result of the drunk drama that unfolded yesterday, the blunders that they have taken place that allowed this guy to show up about 150 yards or so. a top, a rooftop with a straight view of the podium that do operation it'll changes are being considered right now. what was your reaction, shimon not

white, certainly shocking wolf. what's really shocking is that the secret service has decided to hold this press conference. they didn't need to do it. they really said nothing. there was no reassurance here. there's no reason it doesn't feel unsafe here, wolf, i don't want to give the impression that somehow it's unsafe here, but the point of doing something like this, especially after yesterday, is to reassure the public that the secret service, which i think right now has a lot of questions to answer. as you said a major blunder on their part here. this is their one job is to protect the former president's. something went wrong. and you would expect that at least in some fashion, in some statement before she addresses the plans for the rnc that she would have in some fashion said something about it they had to know that they were gonna get the questions about it. they warned us before the press conference not to ask those questions because she wouldn't be able to answer

those questions but still they should have been prepared fair to say, something, and it's really interesting and raises a lot of questions really why the director of the secret service hasn't done anything. there was a press conference it's last night, a very lengthy press conference in pennsylvania last night with the fbi and the state police and other local officials. the fbi today updating the media and something they don't do often it's very rare but they went ahead and realizing the significance of what happened on saturday. they decided to update reporters on their investigation and they provide a lot of information. and to this point we are now a day out of this incident. and you would think that publicly when the secret service comes before the cameras, that they would have something to say and essentially this press conference said nothing. they basically told us that nothing was changing. look, it is very, very safe here. wolf, right.

there are fences everywhere. they'll be every entire frozen jones and perimeter after perimeter after perimeter, here, come tomorrow. so certainly people that will be coming here should feel safe. there's a lot of security, there's a lot of loans forced me everywhere. but given what happened yesterday, things have changed and i just feel that the secret service that i think many people feel this way the secret service publicly should have addressed this in some fashion and they fail to do that here. and it's very puzzling and that was why i asked them a ride out of the gate. what were they thinking in that not having anything to say about what happened here, what happened saturday in pennsylvania, it's certainly very concerned turning to the local officials, they really had nothing to add either. they just say that nothing has changed. there are concerns about people being allowed under the law to bring happens to the outside perimeter. they asked if there were going to be any changes to that and because

of the law, they really can't do anything about that wolf, but that is something that is concerning to the governor, that is something i think that is very concerning to other officials here. so of course, wolf, as to what happened saturday, still a lot of questions and the secret service continues to not answered those publicly so you know, what you're talking about, shimon is obviously that they took the strategy in that press conference of projecting strength than saying, well, don't look at yesterday, we spent 18 months. >> we're ready. nothing can be you can't have a coordinate as strong as this. you can't have security any, there's nothing higher than this for the u.s. government, it seemed as if they were, they were not you know, giving giving the context of what had happened yesterday when you had the person who is the highlight of this entire convention alive by millimeters, chief ramsey what did you take away from that press conference and you juliette also mentioned specifically this issue of open carry that they also said they could do nothing about that. she mentioned the props to governor of the state could buy emergency decree change that for the next four days and that

that could be something to consider. what do you think about all of it well, first of all, what i got out of the press conference was not much of anything. >> if the goal was to reassure the public, they failed i mean, at the very least in my opinion, they should have had someone there from headquarters in dc that even if they couldn't get into any detail at least say that the matter that took place yesterday is under investigation and they're going to make whatever adjustments they have to make to make sure but it's something like that doesn't happen again. but just to get so locked into a plan and i've been involved in nsse is in the past during my time in dc and it does take 18 months worth of pining, but you get so locked into the plan that you can't have any flexibility i mean, it was mike tyson did everybody has a plan until you get punched in the mouth. well, guess what? they got punched in the mouth yesterday. and you need to have a plan. they also even at the local level, could have said a little bit more and

granted their hamstrung with the guns and that sort of thing. but you can talk about, are you going to have any enhanced security around the hotels where delegates and elected officials are staying what are your plans around protests and counterprotests? well, you have an enhanced presence there to make sure you don't have any violent clashes between those two. so there are things that you can say to reassure the public, and there's a whole population of people we haven't talked about that are watching all of this. local elected officials volunteers that will be working the polls that are already afraid because of all the violent rhetoric has been taking place. and now you've got a former president gets shot and you think you're going to be okay on election day. i mean, they've got to do a lot to reassure the public and that even is at the local level. and that's local police departments and counting police departments that are going to have that responsibility come november to make sure people are safe their chief are sobering point about those poll worker. >> so many of whom have faced

death threats given the challenges to the election. and what the foreign president said about the election and poll workers alright, thanks very much to all of you. we're going to take a brief, brief break. wolf and i will be back in just a moment to continue our special coverage this sunday afternoon do, you think that our democracy is at risk? >> we have to be very concerned why do you think he's doing this? >> and can he be talking? how do you think he's guilty? the lead with jake tapper weekdays it for on cnn what he's thinking i'm thinking about her honeymoon, about africa so far hot air balloon ride swim with elephants 34 to safari. great question. like everything takes a little planning for what the mind towards a down payment on a ranch in montana with horses. let's take a look at those scenarios jpmorgan wealth management has advisors and chase branches and tools like wealth plan to help keep

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>> we do know is that he was not known to the fbi. he was not in a database. the questions are, how did he obtain this firearm and what we know is that it was an ar style 556 rifle that belonged to his father's. the big question is, how did he gain access to that rifle? the other thing that we know, erin is that this shooter did have rudimentary explosive devices in his home. those materials are being assessed at quantico, but beyond that, erin, there's very little information at this point. we're still pushing or federal law enforcement officials for more details, but this investigation very much in its early stages into what the shooter's motivation was, how long he planned it and why he chose the position that he chose, and how this all unfolded. >> erin and whitney, i'm curious. i know that as part of the reporting from the fbi, what they've said is that they've got his cell phone, you've reported and they've actually brought it to a location quantico, virginia to try to get information from it i understand that they have

been able to look at some things some communications he's had. what do you know about that we don't know very many details about that other than to say that they have some limited insights into recent communications that includes text messages cell phone records, this far though they're saying that that has not revealed anything with regard to motives or the involvement of knowledge or the involvement or knowledge beyond that, that's according to the fbi's deputy deputy director paul debate so many more questions to answer here, but law enforcement definitely digging into that and those are really the key the details here. >> and as you, as this investigation unfolds, the big questions are, was there anybody else in this area in his circle who should be held accountable? and that's why this investigation is continuing and why law enforcement, while sharing many details, is still keeping some things pretty close to the vest because they want to maintain the integrity of that investigation. should anybody else need to be prosecuted. erin whitney. thank you very much. wolf erin.

>> we're getting new details right now about the gunman, the 20-year-old gunman, and his background, want to go to cnn's danny freeman is joining us right now. he's on the scene for us. there in pennsylvania. what else could you tell us about this gunman, danny well, wolf as whitney alluded to, we actually did learn a lot of new information this afternoon, specifically from the fbi in that briefing. first, we're talking about of course, thomas matthew crooks. first, the fbi believes at this point he did work alone. and second, that at this point, the fbi is no indication that he had any history of mental illness take a look at what happened moments after former president trump came under fire saturday evening, about 500 feet away on a rooftop, just outside the security perimeter. >> the would-be assassin himself was shot and killed by secret service snipers. >> the suspected shooter identified as 20-year-old thomas matthew crooks this video taken from his high school graduation in 2022 law

enforcement officers still have not announced a potential motive for the shooting. >> i urge everyone everyone, please don't make assumptions about his motives or as affiliations but the fbi do their job and their partner agencies do their job. >> cnn has learned crooks was a registered republican and federal election records showed he made a $15 donation to a democratic aligned group back in 2021 big crowd. >> this presidential election would have been the first the gunman would be eligible to vote. it in his bethel park neighborhood, just south of pittsburgh, a heavy police presence remains sunday as investigators process his home a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation told cnn the shooter had explosive material inside of his car and his residence other law enforcement officials told cnn the gun used in the attack was an ar style weapon. the rifle was traced to the shooter's father, matthew crooks when reached by cnn

saturday, matthew crooks said he was still trying to figure out what the hell is going on, but would quote wait until i talk to law enforcement before speaking about that, his son. what was your reaction when you heard the news that this was the shooter crazy unbelievable. >> jason coler, what did the same high school, this crooks. he remembered him as an outcast who was bullied just because he wasn't like with the click he was always had yes. target on his back. when i would see him use this very, very bland, then didn't show no facial expresses is very very, very to himself. on sunday, bethel park skilled nursing and rehabilitation confirmed crooks worked at the center as a dietary aid. >> they said they were shocked and saddened to learn this news, adding crooks performed his job without concern and his background check was clean now,

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yesterday and nothing's changed. nothing's changed at all on the security front, david, i'm not asking you to reflect upon that, although obviously there was a lot of criticism of that, but that may be true for them. security perspective. but from the messaging perspective speeches we're going to hear the run of show. there are some changes, right? i mean, what do you think we're going to see? that's different than what they were expecting to do 24 hours ago well listen, you know, nobody really knows what was, what were the official program was going to be to begin with. but now we know we've had some additions and nikki haley in some others which will be to be very interesting. and look, i think the message is going to be one of unity of china to, you know, make sure america safe and secure and that people feel that that way, not only in their homes, but their pocketbooks, when they walk the streets and one of unity, right, this is a time when americans need to be kind of drawn together, not charged maybe so divisive. the former president was was almost killed

by a mere matter of an inch probably. and were lucky that as an american the country. america is lucky that the president wasn't kokas would have thrown us into an awful spot. so everybody should be thanking. thanking god the night that he survived and look, what can we learn with this moving forward? how can we reduce the temperature ashley and i, we agree that we don't agree on a lot of things, right. but we're friends and we're standing next to each other. there's so close with bumping into each other. we do it respectfully, right? we do it respectfully. and without vitriol americans of marketplace of ideas and let's to have that debate. >> yet, while believe me, i know in television terms, you guys are, you are truly on top of each other right now. so ashley, let's ashley you know, in this context though president biden in spoke earlier, great and many opted to decide to give an oval office address at 8:00 harder prime time on a sunday night, the last time he gave such an address was after what happened

in israel in october okay. so just to me, everyone understand the seriousness of this moment. i don't think any american questions is seriousness of this moment what do you think we're going to hear from him tonight? ashley? >> well, first i think it's important that we hear from the president that we heard from him immediately put a statement out yesterday when an address the american public told people not to jump to the assumptions because we just don't know. we still are trying to figure out who this person was. it took the shot and then he came out again, keeping people updated. that's actually what leaders do, is they communicate we're regardless of your political ideologies. he's the president of the entire united states and host. so he's communicating to american citizens, but he's also communicated to the world that somebody took a shot. but america stands strong. we are united, maybe not uniform, but we are united and we are going to protect each other. and so i think tonight what you will hear is the importance of democracy that important today was pointed a marketplace of ideas. the importance of not jumping to assumptions and not blaming each other. and that he

ran in 2020 aim to unite this night, this country to save the soul of america. and so i think you're going to hear him pull on that and say it's a time for unity and not distressed. and that it is not about politics, it's about who we are as people and as americans in the gop. david, if one person stands for what unity looks like, it's nikki haley, right? who continued to garner 20% of the vote in state after state even when she was no longer running who recently graciously both endorsed the former president, despite what she had said about him on the campaign trail and released her delegates to him. the initial response from the former president was, she's still not invited the convention okay. coming that changed, right? that's what you point out has changed. she's not only coming, but she's been given a speaking slot slot. we understand on tuesday. now, you know, she can write a speech in five minutes given her experience on the trail. but david, she's writing it completely in the context of this moment. how important to the country, right? you look at those 20% of voters, some of them might've gone to joe biden

how important to the country as nikki haley's speech this week i think. it's important to you don't have to have unanimity to have unity we are united as a party. we not agree on every plank of the platform, but we are united because as a republican party. and we want a smaller government, a more personal responsibility, lower taxes, great strong national security people to build safe and secure in their homes homes were united on the big ideas we may have some disagreements on, on how to get there, but nikki haley coming here, think is a great message. it'll be great to see you're staying on the floor. i think she'll be well i'll received and it's great that former president trump invited her. i think that, you know, big shot at and almost killed me, may change your perspective on life a bit and so i think it's going to be a kind of a famer unit-type app as so you're starting tomorrow actually, i also wonder though, and you have to wonder what where all of this goes from here, right? >> because this isn't just one moment this happened, this

happened because of years of horrific things that have been said and done, right? this is maybe it isn't the culmination. but wherever we are on this path, it came because of everything that's come before it. and i wonder ashley, how long do you think that this you know, truce between democrats and republicans will last, right? we have heard again and again that electing trump is the end of democracy. that he's a convicted felon. all these points from the democratic side right now, that's all quiet. but for how long? >> well, i think you're allowed to say things that you believe. without saying and because i said that take a shot at somebody again, we can have a disagreement and still be able to say that safety and nonviolence is the way to go. again, we vote when we disagree. we vote people out. we don't take violent acts that that should be the theme from now through the entire campaign and beyond. so i don't know how long campaign ads will stay down. i don't know how long people will not

start victory bring with each other back on twitter like they do. but what i do hope is that for the next coming days that both here at the rnc, that the temperament and the tone of all the speeches or not one of anger but of one of how we move forward and how we run an election that is about the policies that affect the american people and not about, hate and vitriol yeah. erin, i would just say that americans out in the real-world, right? not on twitter, but americans who live in the real-world go across the street, shake their neighbors, can't talk to one each other one another, right? could verse, like ashley said, you can disagree without being disagreeable. the twitter versus not the real world yeah. this truce only lasts as long as americans wanted the last thing could go on forever if we wanted to and hope fully americans that place that we get to that, that's what we want to be as americans. we don't have it. we wouldn't have ample for the world. we don't want be a laughing stock. >> and thank goodness, people aren't on twitter has been the home of some of the most crazy z. and unfortunate and awful conspiracy theories one could see over the past 24 hours, not a fine moment. thank you both very much. i appreciate it.

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said just before the shooting, law enforcement officers got word of suspicious activity around that location where the gunman was they went to investigate a law enforcement officer according to the sheriff, hoisting himself up to the ledge of the roof, we presume it was right about here. he sees the gunman according to the sheriff, the gunman sees him. gunman points as weapon at that officer and the officer because he's holding onto the ledge, he cannot engage him with his weapon. the officer has to then drop to the ground and to protect himself. the shooting then starts at 6:11 p.m. and 33 seconds. remember that timeline we're going to come back to that in a second. but what we also know from a senior law enforcement official is that the gunman just before the shooting and the minutes before the shooting was acting strangely around the area where the magnetometers were probably around these areas here where the magnetometers were. the question is, what was the doing then was he doing a recon mission? was he probing for a shooting position that will all come out in the investigation. we have other information also from a witness on the scene, ben macer, who told kdka, a cnn affiliate that just before the shooting and the moments before the shooting, he saw the gunman

moving from roof to roof, presumably again, these are the roofs of the buildings that seemingly all are connected here at the shooting location. here's some video of the gunman from tiktok. the gunman after he was neutralized, the gunman. the first reports from agents at the gunman was down, came at 6:12 and 16 seconds. that's less than a minute after the shooting started. this poll shooting video, we can show you. now, here's a scene here of the chairs and the debris here. when we get to this other you don't want to pause here for just a quick second to talk about the deceased victim, cory comparatora, according to the governor of pennsylvania, josh shapiro, mr. copper tour, he might have been either in this grand stand on this grant stand, but he dove on top of his family to save them from the shooting hopefully, we'll get some more information soon as to where which grants stand. he was ended a very heroic act from the deceased victim, cory comparatora, saving his own family according to governor shapiro, who spoke to his wife again, going to the scene here, what were told is that the president has ordered an independent investigation. our law enforcement analyst, andrew

mccabe says, the one thing securing a site like this, especially outside, you've got to eliminate the sight lines to where the protectee is speaking. why that sight line was not eliminated wolf, that's a key focus of the investigation. >> yeah. there's a lot of key focuses, but that's critically important. brian todd. thank you very much. erin. back to you. >> all right. well, if and when shots ran out in butler, pennsylvania our next guests were there. they were in that packed crowd. and these are the pictures that were taken by donna hud says she and her son, joe watch the terrifying events all happening right in front of them and around them. and donna and joe join me now with more. first i'm just i'm glad to see you both i can't even imagine the feelings, emotions that you've had over the past day. how are you doing right now? dana? >> i'm doing all right it's not over the shock, not over the emotions aren't over. we've been talking a lot on today with you folks and re-living it still and in our

own personal scenarios, we're also living out so, you know, we're worried shock were mad two it's add so joe, tell me what happened. >> i mean, where you were. i mean, just as we were just listening, i don't know if you all could hear brian todd reporting, but it's 611 in the evening. and there are 33 seconds of shots. i mean, that's an incredibly short period of time, although i can imagine when you were there, it may have felt anything but one happened in those 33 seconds? joe i can tell you this. >> i heard her say they works for recording what we were right in front of korea he was in a third where we were in we were in the third year in a server third reich, used in the israel. so we were in front of him here we are looking at the, stage. we were over to the right grandstand and we hear the shots. and this is where second son in minutes and i just remember looking around and no one is going down. so i screamed, gun, get down and i ground my mom and i anchor

towards the grass because we were so low and he was on top of an 80-year-old woman. i was on top of her and i remember checking her for blood and everything and for more shots rang out and if people started screaming, man down from above us and i remember looking up and seeing koori and another woman that was hit and they were just lying there and next thing you hear one last shot, which i'm assuming was then taken out the shooter and my mom at one point looked about the fence because we were trying to see a trump was okay and i mentioned museum stand up and give the fist bump and we were just off truly from mimetic and no merits recommit to us, which was horrifying. >> we had a fear that there was more shooters there because if this was happening right in our section, we were this section that everybody sees on tv that everybody is still sitting there and looking or section was that other than people helping? just poor in the woman? if you were down our

section. so everybody was down even have a sense. i mean, when you start hearing it and joe grabs you and pulls you down, what were you thinking? i mean, did you you realize it's bullets? do you think it's a mass shooting? do you have any concept that this could be assassination attempt? i mean, i can't even imagine what went through your mind in that moment. >> i heard bullets and the first thing i was looking at trump, but i'm like, okay, so bear and then he moved quick, but it was an assassination. absolutely assassinate, we vote, we vote said in the car on the way home silently to ourselves, we both had it in the back of our minds going in there today. i was looking at trees i was just looking around, shove it away. he had his thoughts about it first three shots i taught assassination, but they get integrated as bad mass father six seconds before the next four shots, which i didn donalds a mass shooting as one in this trump has already done at that point. >> so what are they shooting at so that i certainly our

thoughts went from fascination to mask because then now you're fearing for you these are some of the pictures that you all took in those in those moments. i mean, yeah the other woman feel like your lives, you go ahead. go ahead the woman and the bluish t-shirt leaning over, if you look up in that picture, that guy and that pink plaid shirt, that's where they are. >> that's where people were starting to reach out to help them joe when you have that moment when you're down and you look up at trump, the moment where this is going to be a picture that's going to be in history books, right? that's the picture. and in that moment, right when he does that, the fist pump is face is bloodied did you see him at that moment? what did that mean to you really i mean, my mom's has she will never go to a trump rally. i want to go to closest one. i can just prove to this guy that he can't get away with this and he's not going to scares off. >> i said i'd go indoors i

mean that i was one of the most encouraging things that they have ever seen in my life donna, what did it mean to you given firing? >> very diary. and then you got anger afterwards because now you're just mad. who did this? why? what is the reason why just have to stop america purpose of americans about a peaceful pass, a powder between democrats and republicans every four years we've to vote and if we want to change, we get that changed peacefully. and this is, this is not the way to go about it dana, do you believe that there is the possibility that this is the beginning of something better? >> that. i am sure i someone you've gone to trump rallies. i'm sure you felt that there are those who look down on you for that. that there's this country is divided. do you think that this is a moment that maybe could become something bigger, that could change that i. hope so. >> i'm, i'm still personally i'm still afraid to civil war, but i'm hoping that maybe this

will bring up the goods, something good comes out of everything bad. >> i'm a firm believer of it and i hope that's the answer. all right. i hope and we all do and share that donna and joe thank you very much. i do appreciate your taking the time being with us and for sharing all of that in your photos as well, our special live coverage here with wolf and myself continues in just a moment did you know sling is your favorite news programs for just $40 a month my favorite news for just $40 a month my favorite news for just $40 a month. faulty dollars a month like favorite for just $40 $40 get your favorite news, or $40 a month sling lets you do that work play link relief really, the

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ever since that it's. an attempt on former president donald trump yesterday. we expect that these remarks will carry all of the weight that comes with an oval office address as you just said, they are quite rare the last time that he did this was back in october, just days after hamas's attacks on israel. and while we haven't gotten an official preview of that speech from white house officials. we fully expect that the president is going to lean into the theme of the need for national unity in a moment like this, and condemning in the strongest terms of political violence of any kind, we certainly got a preview of a little bit of that earlier when he spoke in the roosevelt room, take a listen assassination attempt is contrary to everything we stand for. >> as a nation, everything it's not who we are as a nation. it's not american. we cannot allow this to happen unity is the most elusive goal of all but nothing is important than that right now unity now

the president is going to continue to get briefed on this ongoing federal investigation. the white house saying that the president will be back in the situation room morrow morning meeting with the heads of various law enforcement agencies and we heard him saying earlier that he expects this investigation to be fair and swift and that they really need to get to the bottom of why there was such a security breach yesterday at this trump rally. he also said that the secret service is going to be conducting a review of security measures there's at the rnc in milwaukee, though the secret service just said earlier this afternoon that they are not going to be changing their posture. he also called on americans to refrain from making any assumptions about the motives or the affiliation of the would-be assassin. i should note as for the president's upcoming travel and schedule, the white house did postpone his trip to texas tomorrow, but he will still traveled to las vegas in the afternoon after sitting down with nbc news, lester holt.

this initially was supposed to be an interview very much focus on the concerns among democrats about the viability of his candidacy. but now of course the backdrop is very, very different. erin and wolf very different mj. thank you so much. and i'll be back for a special edition of erin burnett outfront coming up at seven. and of course, wolf will be with you in just a few moments for a special edition of the situation room to get the full story be unafraid the will to fight. >> how important is that? the truth is, israel? full control of its territory and go with a search for answers, take shape. anderson cooper 360 weeknights at 8:00 dad is alleging that his legendary moves might be passed down to you dancing is just one of the many in here. >> herded traits you could discover with ancestry dna see which unique traits you inherited. the places where they started, and the people

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