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describe the atmosphere as a complete shock we hear the three shots and this is where seconds turn at a minutes and i just remember looking around and no one's going down. so i screamed, gun, get down and i ground my mom and i anchor towards the grass because we were so low and he was on top of an 80-year-old woman. i was on top of her and i remember checking her for blood and everything and for more shots rang out. we had a fear that there was more shooters there because if this was happening right in our section, we were the section that everybody sees on tv that everybody is still sitting there looking or section was dad personally still afraid of civil war, but i'm hoping that maybe this will bring up the goods, something good comes out of everything bad the two say they found trump's response encouraging and empowering >> all right. thanks very much for joining us tonight. the special edition of the situation room. a special erin
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burnett outfront starts right now cnn breaking. news and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett. we have a special edition of outfront on this sunday evening with the breaking news, the assassination attempt on donald j. trump. we have some new video just into outfront and this is video of the moment that the shooter begins firing from that rooftop. the distance is just about 400 feet away from trump. i want to play it for you in full n this one
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should the shooter with a gun they're lying down, then you hear the gunshots and complete chaos. now, then i want to show you just to slow this down for a moment. the first direct glimpse of the shooter at the moment he fired the shot. so right there, as you can see, we put the spotlight on it so you can see him lying there and you see him holding holding the gun, lying on that rooftop. and then this taken just moments after the officer shot the gunman dead there he is. and that their officers are up there. he has at that point, been killed. i'm going to speak with the couple who recorded this video and who took that photo in just a moment, they're gonna be with us but right now, officials at this hour are still trying to figure out the shooter's motive. they've got his phone. they don't yet say they have anything about a motive. and we
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also are trying to understand exactly how he was able to get on that roof, which was just about 400 feet away from trump's podium at the rally. it was an outdoor rally, just moments ago, the former president landed in milwaukee for the republican can convention. and we've got video of his motorcade right before takeoff. he did say that he thought today about delaying his trip for a couple of days after the shooting, but decided to stick to his plan schedule and so he is in milwaukee this evening and behind me you'll see a live picture of the convention floor in milwaukee that is where trump is scheduled to take the stage. this dweik also tonight, we're waiting for president biden. he will be delivering a rare oval office address that is expected within the next hour, the last time he did so was right after the hamas terror attack on israel back in october. so it is a significant event tonight for him to make an oval office address and it comes in the context of so many questions this hour our reporters are covering the angles of the storage, tried to get answers on it. i want to start with the breaking news from kristen holmes. she is on the ground in milwaukee where trump just landed. kristen, what are you
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learning from your sources? well i talked to a number of people who have spoken to the former president and the last 24 hours, they all say that he is in good spirits. they also say that he is defiant, that he is ready to run this camp and that even though some of his aides and advisers have privately said they hope that he will take some time to rest, that he wants to continue hitting the ground running as noted here. and as you said, he did consider delaying this trip, but he is currently on the ground, which was the original plan to be here in milwaukee. now i've also talked to a number of his aides, advisors, and allies, who expressed a range of emotions a lot of them were very rattled. they travel with the former president every day. a lot of them we're angry. how could this possibly have happened? obviously a question that we're all trying to get to the bottom of it. in fact, one of the things that we know came from the campaign managers, chris lacivita and susie wiles was something that was really intended to be aimed at some of these campaign aides who were rattled and shaken. it was a memo that said that they
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were doing everything they could to ensure everyone's safety, but also, if there were people who were indicted you see, or west palm beach to stay away from their offices there. but the one thing i have heard from all of these various campaign aides, advisers and allies is the sense of defiance and aaron, i want to be very clear here. this is something that his aides, advisers say all the time whenever he faces obstacles that he is defiant. but this is the first time i'm actually seeing this high level of resolve among his teammates. it's among his allies, just really heading into this election, more determined than ever before. so obviously something we're watching there. notice briefly and i don't want to just completely pivot to politics because obviously we're still reporting out what happened yesterday. but this is a critical moment for donald trump's campaign. he has still not named who his vice-presidential pick is going to we expect that to be possibly tomorrow morning. that is, we're hearing on various sources, but he has until tuesday. and as we have reported, he is in control of
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the rules here, so he can make that determination and whenever he wants to learn. all right. kristen, thank you very much as kristen said, there are right now more questions than answers in this investigation. danny freeman is outfront and bethel park, pennsylvania that is near the home of the shooter with the latest take a look at what happened moments after former president trump came under fire saturday evening about 500 feet away on a rooftop just outside the security perimeter. >> the would-be assassin himself was shot and killed by secret service snipers the suspected shooter identified as 20-year-old thomas matthew crooks all units operating polar form show grounds. >> seles on lockdown, stay inside a source tells cnn that local law enforcement spotted crooks near the event metal detectors on saturday, he appeared to be acting suspiciously and an kurt was put out over the radio to keep an eye on him. >> later just before crooks opened fire, the butler county sheriff tells cnn that an
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officer encountered crooks on the rooftop, but was forced to retreat after crooks pointed his rifle at the officer. this video taken from his high school graduation in 2022 law enforcement officers still have not announced a potential motive for the shooting. >> i urge everyone. everyone, please. don't make assumptions about his motives or as affiliations that the fbi do their job and their partner agencies do their job cnn has learned crooks was a registered republican and federal election records showed he made a $15 donation to a democratic aligned group back in 2021 is a big crowd this presidential election would have been the first the gunman would be eligible to vote in in his bethel park neighborhood, just south of pittsburgh, a heavy police presence remains sunday as investigators processed his home, law enforcement official familiar with the investigation told cnn, the shooter had explosive material inside of his car and his residence other
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law enforcement officials told cnn the gun used in the attack was an ar style weapon. >> the rifle was traced to the shooter's father, matthew crooks when reached by cnn saturday, matthew crooks said he was still trying to figure out what the hell is going on, but would quote, wait until i talk to law enforcement before speaking about but his son. what was your reaction when you heard the news that this was the shooter crazy unbelievable. jason coler, what did the same high school as crooks? he remembered him as an outcast who was bullied just because he was wasn't like what the click he was always had i guess target on his back. when i would see him. who's just very very blend. then didn't so no facial expressions is very very, very tim south on sunday, bethel park skilled nursing and rehabilitation confirmed crooks worked at the center as a dietary aid.
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>> they said they were shocked it didn't saddened to learn this news. adding crooks performed his job without concern and his background check was clean now, erin, i'll just note a few more things that we learned late this afternoon from the fbi. first, the fbi believes that crooks did indeed work alone at this point. they also found no indication at this point of any mental health issues. also, of course, the fbi says that they are still at this point searching for any sort of ideology or motivation for this attack. and the one thing i'll say, erin and you mentioned it right at the top, is that the fbi believes they may find some of those answers in cruxes cell phone. but this point still don't have access to that cell phone. the cell phone is on its way to quantico, virginia for more analysis. >> erin, right, danny, thank you at the top of the show, we showed video that was captured by one of the attendees at trump's rally, mike, to free ship, where you can actually see the moment the gunman fired at trump. let me play it again .
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>> during this way mike and his wife, ambert, join me now and i i'm sorry to both of you to be speaking with you under these circumstances, we're watching that what you filmed when did you realize something was
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happening, mike, i guess that was that was your phone and you actually started filming it was actually a minute or so before i started filming, my wife and nudge me and said, what's going on? and there was there were somebody running through the crowd behind us and that's when we initially realized somebody was up on the roof somebody they're watching the rally trying to get a better viewpoint. and i didn't think nothing of it for a few seconds. and then shortly after that, a guy behind me said that he had seen them. he had done and then when he said that, i moved over a couple feet and i was able to get a perfect i was able to see him perfectly and i see any had the gun and that's when i started to film my wife ran up to law enforcement, was trying to tell them where he was but they couldn't seem to see him because they weren't in
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the right right spot to see him on the roof. they were too close to the building. so it just got very active, very fast. i mean, it's incredible. >> we're looking at your footage here. mike. and as you zoom and you literally see the gun, you see the gun, his hand, you see him lying down. you see it aiming and when you see this, and then you start yelling at officers, what happened and how quickly did you see him realize there's a gun and start screaming at the police officers to tell them and lee, i immediately because like i said, there was commotion prior, you know what i mean, like probably two minutes prior, there was a lot of commotion that's why it caught my attention too like, look back, you know what i mean? >> like. so it was like what's going on? on. well, then people started to run and then we hear gun and it was just chaotic. it was so fast first thing is fine
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coverage and it was just the scariest thing, you know, there's not a lot of places you can hide there. so we were like greene at where we were there was only like 50, 70 people. so it was sort of a small crowd, you know, and we literally we're trying to hide behind to trees just to make sure we weren't going to be hit by the bullets. my was why it was so insane. i mean, i i know that the 33 seconds had to feel like an eternity as you're there. mike, you said something though, looking at this, these images, you looked up and start filming and we see the shooter and we see is gone and we see him lie. it's all right there. right. it's excruciatingly painful. you're going oh, my god, something horrible is going to happen. but when you and amber yell at law enforcement, you said something really crucial. you said they were too close to the building. so when they looked up, they didn't have an angle to see him not at all. know. they had
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no line of sight and they even looked at us and said, where's he at and we were pointing to them you know, he's right there now. this was before i started to fail, but we said he's right there and they just they were too close to the building one officer did try to climb up on the building and he got all the way up and he just wanted to get up on top. and then he just kind of let go and fell to the ground. i don't know if the guy startled him or what exactly happened but one officer did make eye contact with them. then that was shortly before he started to shoot. >> right? >> i yes, i know there was an officer who did try to go up, i guess the shooter had pointed the gun at him and then and then maybe that's why he went away. >> i'm not sure if that's the one that you're talking about though. i just want to pay was only one but there's only that one. so then it must it must have been perhaps that was why then he dropped down as all
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this happened, then trump's on stage and the clip of what happened in that moment. let me just play it again, amber, here it is. >> take a look what happened over so amber that moment, all those shots that's after you had been screaming at police and pointing at the shooter and then all these shots? >> yes. happen yeah. what did you even think in that instant? >> i don't. you don't? i didn't really think i was, you know, you don't i seen the gun and then you hear the shots and then you're like, is he shooting at us is you just is you sorted just for ease in that second, you know, like i wasn't besides michael when it
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happened and because i froze, i seen the gun and she was she wouldn't running for law enforcement to try and help them and show them where he was at to that he was short shooting towards us. i can see in the video and what my eyes that he was shooting towards the crowd i didn't know if he was shooting at the president or just the crowd, but i could tell that he was getting into the crowd and then you took photos, mike, that are graphic, but i want to share them so people understand the horror of that moment. >> they should have government on the rooftop. and at this point, officers are standing over his body so he's dead when did you realize yes. what had happened, right. that he had shot trump on the stage and that that was in the gunman then had been shot himself and that's what actually transpired have you listened in
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the video? >> i will actually tell people behind me to get down because he turned our way i did not realize and lapped are watching it several times yesterday and today. that when i thought he was looking at us, that was when he was actually killed and he just dropped down because by the time my video, you guys only have a short clip, but the video was like over a minute long in when i pan back to them he is already deceased at that point i knew that he would deceased at that point, but when i first seen him looking our way, i thought that he was actually maybe going to start shooting this way. i did not realize he had already been shot all right. well, i appreciate your time. mike. an amber. thank you very much very welcome. deal and outfront now, the butler county sheriff, mike sloot, he was at the rally when
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the shooting happened and sheriff, i appreciate your time and i know you had a chance to hear that yourself. mike, an amber, they took the video of the shooter on the roof and you heard him say, at one point after they were yelling to officers, he did see an officer tried to climb up the building, who then he said dropped down what happened in that moment? >> well, from what i understand, the officer got lifted up to the roof and when the contact eye contact was made, my understanding is the shooter turned towards the officer and the officer dropped his grip and fell to the ground at that point and, i'm assuming hearing from your last mike there, i said that the shooter then started shooting shortly thereafter it appears it appears that's what happened. >> i mean, i just tried to understand and there's so many things we don't understand yet, sheriff, obviously. but since you were there, you know, better than anybody else the
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bill building itself and we were talking about where the tutor was was positioned about 400 feet away from the podium where trump was. now obviously before the rally, there's all sorts of processes and procedures that happen and secret service works closely with local law enforcement do you know who was technically responsible for securing that building i do not have an answer to that. do you did you feel when you went in that everything was all the ducks were in a row that everybody knew what they needed to know. did it feel like everything was right before anything happened? >> everything felt well, you know, we worked with the secret service state police are office baller township police bomb squad, dogs, squad i mean, everybody knew what the esu the emergency service unit and i mean, everybody had an idea of what they needed to do. there plenty of law enforcement on the ground i felt comfortable. i felt good and the vibe there
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was really good except the fact that it was 93 degrees and people were dropping like flies at that point. >> so when you are inside the rally and you just heard mike describe what he saw when his wife, ambra was yelling at the police officers who were there and he described that some of them as too close to the building to be able to have an angle to see that shooter on top. what did you see inside the rally when all of this happened well, first of all, that makes sense. >> so you're gonna go along the building, you're not going to be so many feet away. so to give the shooter an opportunity to shoot you, so the officers absolutely did what they needed to do and what they're trained to do. but during the rally, the president and we're speaking and next thing you know, i hear what really sounded like. firecrackers. so i looked off to the left. there is little pop of smoke and the next thing you know, i look to the right because there was a set of speakers that we're on a crane and we believe he hits a hydraulic line there and the speaker started coming down at around about the same in time, the president went down the
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secret service went on top of him i look back to the left, the shooting, it stopped at this point, people we're all over the ground. they were all huddled down. and i'm being waved over like very regular regular asli to come over to the bleachers behind me. and of course i got i make my way over top of people because they're all laying on the ground. i get to the bike rack and the guy says he shot and that's the first time i knew that this was a serious serious incident. i got on the radio, called for medics the ambulance, and literally within seconds we had a physician, we had a nurse. we have emts with the esu unit. i had a doctor come up behind me, voted him over the bike rack to get him help. and at the same time trying to get people off of the bleachers at that time that event is over. so now it's about getting people away and potentially securing some of the witnesses so that whoever was investigating kevin opportunity to talk to them. so
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we did that and they carried his body away took it to a separate location and then, you know, i understand there were two other people that were injured quite seriously at that point today. i find out that they are in stable condition. thank god. >> thank god for that. and we're going to hear more about the man there was killed in moment. sheriff soup. i appreciate your time. thank you very much one last friday, praised for all enforcement. >> and that fire chief that was critically injured, keep everybody in their prayers. thank you, guys very much. >> and thank you secret service, when it comes to what happened is on the defense tonight of the agent who was shot during attempt on ronald reagan's life is outfront to talk about what he thinks happened here and a doctor in the audience at that trump rally he watched as a man nearby took that bullet to his head and he helped carry that body out of the bleachers. he's going to tell you what happened that night, plus an outfront exclusive congressman dean phillips was the only
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with me, a former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. let me just start with you. you know you see the video, you see the man on the roof, you see the gun and you heard the couple who filmed it talk about what they saw that they say they tried to alert officers because the angle those officers were to close the building and couldn't see up and then the gunman opened fire. how big of a failure is this you know, erin, what it looks like is a series of mistakes that ultimately lead to a pretty colossal failure provisionally, those officers will be they local officers or their deputy sheriffs, wherever they're from, their job on the outer perimeters to look for suspicion this incidents and people and immediately radio that intelligence into the command post so it can then be fed to whoever needs to action it. in this case, it would have been of course, the counter snipers. so when they get that report from the woman before they even attempt to look on the building that should have been radioed in once we've now heard that an officer was
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essentially boosted up to look lifted over the rnc over the roof at the shooter and the shooter somehow looked at him and he dropped off in that interaction alone. see, looking at an armed unauthorized shooter, not in a uniform, not displaying identification like he would certainly have been authorized under federal operational standards anyway to engage that target himself on site. so there's a bunch of decisions that we don't know. everything that went into these seeing the investigative results yet. obviously, there's still a lot of questions to be answered, but there's a bunch of decisions that really call out for some i'm scrutiny. >> tim mccarthy, you literally took a bullet to protect then president ronald reagan, wanted as one of his secret service agents, that was back in 1981 when you're looking at this now and thinking about what happened, to you, how, how obvious should this rooftop have been for them to look for
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a potential gunman? >> well, it was pretty clear that they recognize during the advance that they had some high ground problems. are some high ground issues. that's why they had a counter sniper team that comes out does a survey of the area, looks at ranges from naturally the podium out to those locations. and from there locations out there so sure they did that if they needed two teams, they would have had two teams. the issue and it doesn't take a security expert to figure out that why wasn't that area posted? it was outside the perimeter and to a large extent, that's okay. but as long as you have identified a high ground issue, it needed to be posted and it should have been posted, whether it was a local officer, a secret service agent, state police, or anyone else that high ground, it should have been covered because they recognized they had a problem that's why they had counter countersniper. now the officers i don't know what they actually knew when they attempted to get up on that building what the people well,
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actually told them if they said it was a gunman, i certainly agree with mr. mccabe. it should have been called in. if not, what they attempted to do may have helped russia, the shooter's timeline to shoot. it may have helped cause him to miss thankfully. so that'll be part of the investigation, but they absolutely should have called it if they knew it was a gunman if that had gotten through quickly enough to the secret service through their joint command post, the agents would have and should have taken the president off the podium to safe room or in this case, probably evacuated them to the armored car our didn't get them out of the area republican congressman mike lawler, you and use it bipartisan bill you and richie torres, democratic colleague you've got an enhanced secret service protection. >> you want a bill for biden trump and robert f. kennedy junior for all of them yes. what when you hear all this, what questions does this raise in your mind about what? you want to know who secret
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service. >> but for the grace of god, we would be having a very different discussion tonight. we're talking about a millimeter of difference. and thankfully donald trump survived this assassination attempt i think obviously as a country, our elections are decided i votes at a ballot box, not violence at a rally. and it's critically important in this moment that we make sure that the united states government is taking all precautions to protect president biden, president trump, and rfk junior, whose family obviously has been victim to this twice. this cannot that happen in america. and i think we need to make sure that all candidates have an enhanced security detail and that we make sure they have the protections in place and we're talk more about what we understand about trump's detail in a moment. but maggie, now he he said he was going to take a couple of days. he didn't decide. okay. i'm going to go to milwaukee as scheduled, so he's there tonight. how do you think? this impacts him? well personally according to
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everyone, i've spoken to, who has talked to him, he's actually sounded fairly normal. there's completely normal as if nothing had really happened. he spoke to congressman ronny jackson, who is his former white house doctor. and according to the congressman, he was talking about how looking at that chart that he was looking at and you can see in that video at the rally saying that that saved him because his head was turned and you can see that the angle that it was at, it likely meant the bullet went in a different in a different direction he has said that he is determined to move ahead with the convention. what this looks like at the convention in terms of how this has factored in. i don't think we know yet that you have seen him stressing in his own messages on truth, social unity. i think that he is going to recognize that this is a different kind of moment. you have not seen, for instance, merchandise selling off of what just happened. whereas when he was indicted or when he was convicted that happened, it would immediately serve him with a bump in the air this woman looked the picture from
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yesterday, was remarkable. my colleague doug mills took one of the images that's been all over, all over the internet. and it's, it's a remarkable image. i think you may see this play differently in terms of how he approaches it. this is just fundamentally a different thing. but anybody who is trying to predict number one, what the rest of this campaign looks like, or how he is going to talk about it, or how democrats are going to talk about him. i think it is a mistake. there's a lot we don't know. alyssa. >> yeah. there's so many i nodes. i thank god, he's okay. i think that the messaging from the campaigns actually been quite disciplined. i think the memo internally to staff was smart to show that they're taking safety seriously as well, i suspect that trump's gonna be on prompter at this. this is a big moment for him at the convention. i think he is going to talk about a message of unity. i think, you know, having nikki haley, they're bringing her back into the fold. would all be watching for as this what are other candidates people running for office saying at the convention? are they taking advantage? spiking when the rhetoric in a moment where we
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need to be really sober and how are democratic politicians responding? there's a responsibility on both sides of the aisle to take the temperature down. we don't want to see copycats. you don't want to see repeats, but it's a historic moment. i think trump gets the gravity of it. i can't see how he wouldn't and i think he's going to try to fold that into to the convention. >> yes i just watched these these images and i think about so much of my life, i've spent at rallies just like this for presidents, for presidential candidates that i've worked for. and everybody who's there are you're planning one of these events as i think a couple of us have here, you're thinking about this because you have secret service lead and you're walking through all the different ways that things may happen and what happens to the cars and where we will go and all those all those things. so for me, the first thing is thank god, he's alive. they've god that this did not go worse. and then the second thing is the president, president biden's reaction to this to me has been so strong because what he's been doing is stalling the kind of leadership that i think people want from the president, which is putting the country first informing the
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country to very directly talking to donald trump, even though the two of them clearly don't get along talking to donald trump because he's the victim here and making sure that he's okay. however, that conversation went and then leading the conversation with the law enforcement officers, we saw the situation room photo. we've seen him sort of talk about this. that's exactly what she worked for president. there's a very key point here that there's don't want to get lost when you win, it is still your obligation to care for those who've lost so the president is modeling the kind of country that we all believe we ought to have, which is that just because you win an election doesn't mean that everyone else doesn't matter anymore. >> all right, au thank you very much. of course. we're waiting that oval office address, which will begin in just moments here, we anticipate from the president, i want to bring in dr. joseph, mine now, dr. from grow city, pennsylvania, he was standing just ten yards from cory comparatora when he was shot and killed. and dr. mind then helped carry who his body out of the bleachers. was dr. minds first time attending a trump rally and dr. i am i am
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so sorry for what you you witnessed and there. but for the grace of god, but you carried him. you saw him hit, you saw him hit in the head. you saw him die and you took the photos of the bleachers, which is where of course, body fell when he was hit. i am warning people these images are extremely graphic, but the court went to this rally because he supports trump. you want it to be there. he went for a nice sunday afternoon with his family and this is what happened. that day. my can you tell me exactly? what happened as you saw it but it was attending the rally. >> i was actually in the folding chairs that we're situated on the other side of the barrier just in front of the left bleacher at the very end of the bleachers to the left of the stage you know, i was looking i would according president trump on my iphone and my right hand and i the way
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they angora was sitting, president trump's head was covered by the right screen of the teleprompter. so i was leaning in to get a better angle to get pictures of him speaking, but there was information was being projected on the jumbotron to my left so you know, as i was holding my iphone on my right hand, i looked at the jumbotron. i was just as i was glancing down from the gender jumbotron and moving my head from left to right. that's when i noticed gunfire immediate. it was a hot, muggy day in pennsylvania immediately there was vapor trails of bullets right in front of me just above me. and then there was there are seven there were seven gunshots relatively loud. quickly all seven gunshots were shot, or fired just over a second or maybe under a second and-a-half and as always changing my vision and moving my head from read the right, the left on my left visual field, i noticed a man in the bleachers you know,
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where the gunfire was coming from, i assume that the gunfire was coming from behind the bleachers that sound about 100 meters distance. he was hit in the head and killed instantaneously and as i continued to look from left to right in my right visual field, that's when i noticed that one of the vapor trails from the bullet struck so struck president trump just before the bullets struck him. i mean, the moment before president trump looked from right to left and i saw the vapor trail, the bullet slice the top right portion of his ear so you actually saw some tissue. it looked like. >> so yes. sorry the what i am i'm amazed when you're talking about these paper trails that you could actually see that and given the heat, i understand it was 93 degrees. >> that's probably before the heat index. the humidity level which is an incredible thing for you to describe when you talk about seeing mr. cometary
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killed though, with one of those bullets when you saw that paper trail, you then also you were you managed to well it seems to capture the moment when his wife realized that he had been shot. i just want to play what you shared with us your mine. i know that dr. comparatora is whole family was there and that he died protecting them. you literally thrown his body on top of them to protect them. what did you
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see in that moment well, you know, i that's kind of shock but, you know, muscle memory kicked in and i, you know, i ran to provide aid so i jumped the metal divide your barrier between where i was sitting and went into the into the bleachers. >> when i was there. there was pennsylvania state police when are already there and there was i believe emergency medical technician and i introduce myself. he said i'm a surgeon that can pride ad need, help and at that point 0.1, either it was a trooper, but i believe it was the emt technician. was there said the man was dead and at that point they noticed that the troopers had each picked up an arm or a limb or leg and they were bringing the body down from the from the bleachers like assistant briefly and at that point, in order was given the take the body to a tent behind the bleachers so they can continue
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to evaluate and again, asked if they needed assistance and at some point the order was given again. it was confusing to me if they were giving me we weren't, but it seemed like it was an order for everyone. but at that point a 20 or 30-year-old female approached me and she asked, is he going to be okay? and someone said he's dead and she gave off a just a blood curdling whale that i never hear. i never hope that ever hear again in my life just you could hear that or are just breaking and it sounded like her soul was just crushed doctor, thank you very much. >> there was just a horrific scene thank you, sir you're, welcome when we take a brief break and we'll be back only from simply safe 24/7 lifeguard protection. this exclusive technology allows simply safe
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breaking news, you are looking at live pictures of the white house where president biden will be addressing the notion the nation just minutes from now, he'll be speaking from the oval office about the assassination attempt on former president donald trump, mj lee is outfront live from the white house and mj obviously a significant address. his first since october with the hamas terror attacks. what do you anticipate the president will say and how long will these remarks be? >> yeah, erin, the fact that the president has chosen a primetime oval office address really does speak volumes. >> they are rare and they are reserved for the most solemn and heaviest moments in this country. and as you said, the last time that he chose a setting like this was back in october, just days after hamas's attacks on, israel and a biden official tells us that we should expect a forceful address. he is going to provide an update to the country on the horrifying events of yesterday and also call on the nation to come together to unite and to condemn all kinds of political
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violence. but it's clear that the president understands that this is no small undertaking when we heard him in speaking at the white house earlier today, he said that unity is the most elusive goal of all, but that nothing is more important than that right now. now, the events of yesterday aside, erin, we should note the idea that political violence is a threat to american democracy that has been a central theme and a through line. and the president's candidacy and the president's presidency. and certainly tonight we expect him to address the events of what happened to his political rival, but also addressing a country that is still reeling from a national trauma and national shock for sure, mj lee. thank you very much. of course, mj will lee at the white house. so after that oval address and next, are now democratic congressman dean phillips of minnesota joins me. he was the only elected official who ran against joe biden for the 2024 democratic nomination. and this is his first national interview since cnn's debate between biden and trump and congressman. i've really really appreciate your time and i remember our conversations when you were
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running and your reasons for doing that. and now here we are in this tense and sad moment for this country and obviously awaiting an oval office address from the president, the united states, talking about an assassination attempt on his rival what should the president's message be tonight in this moment? >> well, erin, i think the president's great superpower is compassion and empathy. and i expect both of those to be shown loud and clear tonight. i think this is a magnificent opportunity for him for our country even for for former president trump, who i send my thoughts too as well to actually do something that this country needs more than ever. and it's set aside the nonsense stop the insanity, and actually show some compassion and empathy for a country that is really hurting right now, expect to see that tonight. and i'm pulling for the president too. make a wonderful, remarkable, inspiring in compassionate speech.
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>> you know, you've been hosting a series of gatherings in minnesota with democrats and republicans, congressman you've been trying to trying to create that unity yourself. what is that shown you we have to say, i've been doing a series called common ground for years now because i ran for congress in no small part to try to prevent what we saw happen yesterday in pennsylvania. >> the series called common ground. we do it in conjunction with braver angels, which i encourage people to take a look at democrats and republicans actually working together to build bridges and find common ground. we sit at a table six democrats, six republicans. i do it as much as we can for a couple flowers. we have a meal, talk about policy, share life stories, and at the end, we go around the table and everybody shares a little perspective on what they derive from this experience. recently we had a young woman, emily, looks across the table at dave and says, dave, when you drove up in your pickup, your f15 with a trump sticker in the parking lot? i am just got back in my car and left. i didn't even want to sit at a table with you. but you said i'm so glad
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i stayed because i'd never sat with a trumper and i learned something and you're a good guy. goes around the table today if he looks at emily, says emily, when you drove up in your previous i wanted to run it over everybody laughed, of course. and then he said, but i got to say i've never sat with a progressive before. and you really changed my mind about liberals, democrats, and at that moment, erin, the dyed-in-the-wool trump or the bleeding heart liberal, stood up in front of our table and they hugged they embraced and i'm here to tell everybody watching right now that we can do this. but everybody's got to play a role that's why do the series. and i'm calling on every single one of my colleagues tonight to initiate something similar in their districts. so we can get to know each other, find our common ground, and actually inject some optimism into a country that needs it. i hope they will optimism is so desperately needed. as i said, this is the first time you've done a national interview since the debate and since then, of course, in the democratic party, there have been vocal calls from donors, from democrats for the president to
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step aside and not the majority is just spent a few, right? but every day more right. and you've had big high-profile names, people like jd george clooney, you have been very quiet. you posted on social media the day after the debate, though congressman speak only if it improves upon the silence you're speaking tonight. obviously, choosing to break your silence. what do you think joe biden should do well, erin, look, it is a conversation. >> i'm willing to have. i don't think to they is the time to have that and it's a day of mourning. i think the country is in crisis. the president will be speaking in just a few moments. i made my case to our country, tried to nine months ago because i thought this would be a matter of when not if here we are in this conversation right now, i'd love to come back on after our country has some time to reflect flanked, and express some compassion for one another. and then i'd be happy to share my perspective about where we're at right now. >> all right. what congressman phillips, i very much appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you, erin. >> all right. and we are just a
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few moments away from that oval office address our breaking news coverage continues now with ac360 and good evening. >> we are about 11 minutes away from president biden's oval office address. the nation a day and a night since the near murder of donald trump. the most serious attempted presidential assassination since ronald reagan was shot in less than a day from the republican convention in milwaukee, where cnn's jake tapper is tonight anderson, former president trump, arrived here in milwaukee this evening to lingering concerns about safety and security here at the convention. later today, the secret service said it will not tighten security here specifically, they say they will not bar firearms for the so-called soft perimeter, which lies just beyond the hard security zone. controls around the venue here, even though yesterday's would be assassin, thomas crooks managed to setup rooftop snipers position in
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just such a zone with a clear shot at the former president, just about 150 yards away. and jake, we're learning more in the wake of the shooting, of course, at the trump rally in butler, pennsylvania, just north the pittsburgh, which killed one spectator, seriously wounded two more today, pennsylvania's governor reveal that the man shot to death by a sniper was a firefighter. his name was corey comparator the died shielding his wife and two daughters from gunfire and anderson, we also learned that the fbi fbi believes that the dead gunman acted alone, that he used an a.r.-15 style rifle purchased lawfully by his father and now they are trying to determine the motives behind his sick and twisted act. he was 20-years-old. he lived just south of pittsburgh, worked at a nearby by nursing home. he was described by a co-worker and former high school classmate as a quote, the sweetest guy, someone who quote, seemed happy well, much more to learn obviously about him, we will of course have much more throughout the hour
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on the investigation and repercussions and be joined by presidential historian doris kearns goodwin has written about and lived through the terrible string of the sas nations and attempted assassination starting in dallas in 1963. right now as we wait to hear from president biden, we're joined by house speaker mike johnson. mr. speaker, thanks for being with us tonight. what are you hoping to hear from president biden tonight? >> well, it's a dark time in the history of the country. this is a dangerous time and we've been suggesting that all elected officials from the president on down really try to draw the country together. we need a unified message. we need to turn the temperature down and i think at the time for moral clarity, i mean, i think everyone in elected office has a responsibility in all of this and we need to remind this country that we're all together. there's no place for this rhetoric that has heated up the political environment and it leads to this kind of action. and we all have to do our part. so i hope that he'll he'll take that seriously how do you think that happens?
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>> this is something that is happening on all sides of the political aisle from democrats, from certainly from republicans how does that happen? >> look there are offenders on both sides, of course, we've got to get back to civility in this country. >> i mean, i'm wanted to tries to work on that in congress. there are others as well, but here's the thing. i mean, it's an objective truth that donald trump is probably the most persecuted and attack political figure in history. certainly among presidents, maybe at least since abraham lincoln civil war era and that takes a toll. i mean, when, when my colleagues go out, democratic colleagues and say democracy will end the republican be in an emergency stage if donald trump wins for president, it's just not true. it's another election. and when they say that kind of rhetoric and the heat did up like that, there are people out there that take these things to heart and they act upon them when politicians are not
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responsible for that. but we do have a responsibility to be responsible. i mean, we're not asking for much. let's just dow the rhetoric down. let's have vigorous debate that's what our country is built upon, but we have to see one another as fellow americans are not enemies. >> i do want to point out just for fairness, i'm not i don't want to get into an argument about this, but the former president himself has also used that kind of rhetoric he said on june 27, joe biden is a threat to democracy, a threat to the survival in existence of our country itself. that's certainly the same kind of language you're talking about listen everybody is prone to overstatement, okay. i mean, a few days ago earlier this week, i mean, joe biden actually said, we need to put donald trump in the bull's-eye i mean, right. i don't think either of those men meant to imply any thinking beyond just rhetoric. but the point is the rhetoric has consequences when you have a heated environment and you have political division in this country, like we have in the age of social media
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everything is amplified and everyone can go on and turn the dials up every day, we need to we need to work on bringing that down so that we can have thoughtful debate and we can have policy debates and discussions and not all the rest of this it is extraordinary that this that this was able to take place. >> obviously, there's a failure somewhere of law enforcement unclear who at this stage. but the fact that a shooter was able to get a high position that close with a line of sight on the former president at a major event like this is shocking it is shocking and i've called last night for hearings. we're going to do this as quickly as possible, get the answers that the american people deserve what happened here. i mean, i think pretty clearly there was a security lapse at at at least and we need to find out, for example, why we're drones not used just in the area. i've not gotten a satisfactory answer on that yet. i mean, that seems
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pretty obvious that you would do that. so you could see people on rooftops. this one from the vantage point of the stage was just seeming an easy thing to monitor and they didn't. of course, we've all heard the eyewitness accounts of people on the ground who saw a guy with a gun on the rooftop. why wasn't it stopped sooner? lots of questions. we have more questions than we have answers. but congress is going to get down to the bottom of this. >> speaker, mike johnson. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. jake, thanks anderson anderson, we're just about five minutes or so away from when president biden is supposed to deliver his address to the nation as soon as we are told, we will bring that to our viewers and listeners live with me here in milwaukee. >> cnn, political commentators ashley allison, david axelrod, david urban also cnn chief national correspondent. john king. john, what did you make of what speaker johnson just said? well, i think he absolutely right. and saying this the time for everybody to step back and be americans and
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reprehensible thing happened yesterday and it's a moment of reflection you do here. i think anderson's question was right in that no matter what your politics, no matter what you do for a living, whether you sit here like austin we're on live television sometimes, occasionally, your tongue gets out ahead of your brain. that we should think about what we say whether you're a postman, whether you're having in political debates at the office, you should think about what you say because words matter. and i think we see from time to time at horrible events like this, this one's on a bigger scale obviously because the former president united states in the middle of a presidential campaign. but speaker scalise kids in schools. but let's not forget kids in schools. somebody, something happens to somebody that makes them step over the edge might be different circumstances in different places, but something happens to somebody that got them to step over the edge. and i would when these things happen there's lots should attribute policy conversations. i covered the white house for ten years. it's been a long time since i covered the white house, but i
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covered the white house for ten years. i was never at an event with a building like that where you didn't see snipers on the roofs surprised that that's just one when i saw this, the diagram. and there was no sniper on that. there are snipers on this roof, but not that roof. that's one-on-one from those days. but in terms of the tone of the country, it's hard, it's hard. there's a convention hall behind us. conventions are, they should be about red meat and about great political conversations and about great policy conversations. but at a moment like this, i hope everybody, whatever your perspective with just take five minutes and just think. what do i want to say? what animates me most? and maybe shabby a little bit more careful about my words. there really is a dehumanization that we've seen in politics long before yesterday whether it is people mocking when rant senator rand, paul was assaulted, people making fun of paul pelosi. some big waves in the republican party making font of these serious assault on paul pelosi former speaker nancy pelosi's husband. it is a time for everyone. yeah. to dial it back you just there's no doubt about it, but we live in the age of
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social media where hate and outrage and conspiracy theories are actually profitable. and we've seen politics sort of mirror that. and this is a huge challenge for the country and listen, i give the speaker credit because i think his tone as speaker has been different in a way, and i think he deserves credit for that, but the reality is that there are things you can't erase. i mean, we all remember january 6. we remember the president's rhetoric then just a few weeks ago, he retweeted a tweet, which liz cheney was accused of treason, and it says retruth. if you want televised military tribunals. and he did so i think the speaker should talk to the president as well because he has, he has done his share to put us where we are david. >> yeah, i was just going to say, look, there's actually you and i will disagree at this. >> there'