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again, sure he's going to be able to do it. but what vance was expressing was this like deep anger point that republicans have, however, anyone who spent time on social media and try to comment at all or say anything about the shooting that happened on saturday, learned that also on the left, there's a strong belief that this thing was a hoax, which is insane. i don't understand how any candidate can bridge those two divides, but what biden has now two i wouldn't say his credit is no one's calling in his own party anymore for him to really step down that has quelled. and now the debate is between these two men, whether they can unify the country or not. i don't know if anyone last word to you, kristen, is there room for trump to grow? and as always, the question with him or is he just going to solidify his base? >> i think that there is room for him to grow insofar as they're in the last 24 hours, he has been behaved in a way that is probably different than his detractors would have expected we'll see what the next couple of days hold.
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>> my panel here in milwaukee. thank you all very much. and thank you for watching newsnight. laura coates live starts right now. it's sunday in milwaukee on the eve of the republican national convention. former president donald trump is here in the city tonight and it's been 24 hours since this country witnessed a former american president placed in grave danger, 24 hours since the bullet was close enough to grace his ear while he campaigned for reelection the world, let alone the nation was holding its collective breath wondering if this would be the day that so many of our parents and our grandparents and even ourselves once asked where were you when? but he is here and ready to touch his party's nomination this very week. just
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as in the seconds after he emerged from under the weight of secret service, shielding not only him, but our nation from a terrible and tragic repeated history he pumped his fist. what exiting is playing just a few two hours ago. his team, they say he is doing well and we're told the ct scan he underwent, it came back clear, but the attempt on his life has cast a long and dark shadow over the convention. the campaign, and frankly the entire nation president biden, appealed to the nation tonight imploring america to remember that while we may disagree, we cannot treat each other as enemies. >> there's no place in america for this kind of violence. for any violence ever period, no exceptions we can allow this violence to be normalized you know the political record in this country has gotten very heated it's time to cool it down we all have responsibility to do that. we stand for
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america not of extremism and fury, but a decency and grace all of us now face a time of testing as the election approaches the higher the stakes, the more forbid the passions become this places an added burden on each of us to ensure that no matter how strong are convictions was never descend into violence now, donald trump's acceptance speech, we're told will now focus on unity, not biden. he told her reporters today that he is rewriting the entire thing, quote honestly, it's going to be a whole different speech. now but first, there is an urgent investigation underway to try and figure out how the 20-year-old gunman was able to nearly assassinate donald trump. ten obtained this video showing the shooter in position ready to fire. but what happens in the moments right before he pulled the trigger? is the question everyone's asking and tonight, we're getting a little bit closer to that answer. listen
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to cnn's brian todd laura, we have new information on the shooter's movements during and just before the shooting occurred. we do know that the shooter was roughly 150 meters away. that's less than 500 feet away from the former president when the shooting started, we also were told by a former by the sheriff of butler county, michael slope, that law enforcement officers did see the shooter on top of the building. they went to investigate one law enforcement officer hoisting himself up according to the sheriff to this ledge of the rooftop and was cleaned to the rooftop when he saw the shooter, according to the sheriff, the shooter saw him and pointed his weapon at the law enforcement officer. but at that point, the officer was not and he was holding onto the ledge and could not engage the shooter with his weapon. so the office or had to drop down for his own safety at that point, the shooting started brian thank you so much. it's pretty unbelievable to think that this has happened and the fbi, they believe the gunman acted alone as of now, the fbi says, no motive has emerged.
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note ideology all we know is that he was a registered republican, but once donated to a progressive group, explosive materials were found in the gunman's car and at his home. the ar 15 he used was purchased legally by his father how the gunman got it is still being looked into i want to bring in former assistant director of the secret service, gordon huddle and former deputy of the fbi's counterintelligence division, peter strzok, general thank you both for being here this evening. the world has so many questions and i want to begin with you here, gordon. i wonder from your perspective, what is the most pressing question the secret service needs to answer at this very hour. >> well, laura, it's good to be with you tonight. thank you. you know, in the wake of the recent attempted assassination of candidate president trump well, secret service is facing some very pressing questions.
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director cheadle and her team face a critical week if it were just the attempted assassination of former president trump the pressure on the secret service would be more than enough. however, tomorrow the republican convention kicks off, followed a few weeks later by the democratic convention these are designated national security events the secret service is the lead agency for the design and inflammation implementation of the operational security plans for both conventions, they've got a lot on their plate. it but i can tell you that operating under these kinds of pressures is where the secret service traditionally excels. i've done conventions myself and i can tell you they are not a piece of cake but they're going to be a lot of pressure not to have any more missteps i'm not saying that for but yes while gordon i'm i'm glad you spoke about this in the language you have because i think it's important
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for people to understand and peter, let me bring you into this conversation. >> station because the idea of being a designated national security event comes with its own set of requirements and heightened alert because they know that there is a risk and the presence of somebody like a former president just adds that exponentially but the fact that the gunman was so close, peter, i mean, we're talking roughly 150 yards away a little more than a football field. i mean, that is shocking. why was there no law enforcement? on that roof given the proximity where our audience is seeing a diagram of that close proximity as we're sitting here now laura. >> laura, the idea of questions i'm sure you talking to me, laura know peter, i'm gonna come back to, you know, what i want to get your insight and additionally too, but peter want you to take that one yeah, absolutely. >> no, i think that's one of the key questions. i mean, 150 meters is a very, very close shot for anybody with a shonda weapon secret service colleague
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here can speak to it much in more deaths than i can, but they rely on protection in depth. so you will have a layer of secret service agents around the protectee. you rely on state and local officials and other federal officials potentially in rings. going further out. but i think that is absolutely one of the questions that is going to be asked. it is something that the secret services excellent. they're doing and clearly did not occur this time. so i think that is a real bonafide question and one that i think people are going to make sure things are put in place to ensure that doesn't happen again we certainly hope not. gordon peter, we're going to come back to you, but thank you so much where your insight is going to be invaluable as we get through all of the next several hours our is and thank you. in just 24 hours, just 24 hours for now, donald trump could announce his pick for vice president. and now that choice is carrying an additional level of significance after the attempt on a former president's life. now, the three vp candidates we know are on trump's shortlist. all reacting to the attempted
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assassination he had senator marco rubio saying, god protected president trump governor doug burgum saying, we all know president trump is stronger than his enemies. today he showed it. and senator jd vance. well, he's blaming the current president. i want to bring in harry enten, cnn's senior data reporter, and shermichael singleton, cnn food comments data republican strategist, and ashley allison is also here, a cnn political commentator. i don't know about you guys, but i have been my stomach has been turning ever since this all happened, and i know oh that people have very serious and visceral reactions. the idea that this is happening in the united states of america, we are under an umbrella of political division, but this is so stunning and so shocking. shermichael for so many reasons. and you saw that there were some measured responses from burgum, from marco rubio, now, jd vance had had a different take it's on all of this and i'm wondering from your perspective, what you say he is blaming biden and i
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wonder what impact that could have a real look. i think people laura should follow trump's footsteps on them yes i think trump, in a very odd sort of existential way at 78-years-old saw his life flash before his eyes. i mean, we've seen all of the analysis if it was just a few millimeters this could have ended very differently from the perspective of a lot of republican voters. and i've had the chance to just talk and mingle with few a few folks who are here for the convention and i heard one recurring theme from people. he doesn't have to do this. he is wealthy. he could go and do anything else he wants to do and yet he's choosing to live this very uncomfortable. life where he's disliked by a whole lot of people and he literally just put his life on the line as one lady told me earlier today for us and so i think if you look at someone like jd vance, i understand why people may sell those aren't the best statements during this time. but from the republican voters
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that i'm that i have spoken with, they're looking at trump, just want to lead and guide not only them, but hopefully bring the country together this week during the convention ashley how do you see it? because this is something right? a convention, right? we know that this is political season for so many people. i mean strategists and voters and delegates. we all know how this is rounding out in the normal sense. policy positions, policy disagreements, all those things when you are seeing the climate that we are presently in, what is going through your mind in particular well, i think it's been going through my mind for some time even before saturday. is that we need to take a beat and really have conversations about sherman i go and i talk about this all the time. >> let's talk about policy. i'll go toe to toe with you and talk about immigration on this side versus that side. i don't actually need to use violence to get my point. cause i have words and i have brains and i have emotions. and so i can use all of that to make an
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argument. that's not what's happening. obviously, it didn't happen on set he today. but i do think that jd vance is comments the senator from my home state are not great. they are inappropriate and they should not have been said not in the first 24 hours of the attempted assassination not ever quite honestly. if we really want to use this moment to turn the page we need to turn it, we need to, people need to acknowledge their role that they have played in it. but what we don't need is people saying i'm going to pick on you and i'm going to pick on you. that's somewhat how we got here. and so we do need to rise to the occasion and the reason why we're even talking about jd vance in this way is because he is on the shore but list to be vice president. and the question is, if he is selected, is that the type of person that you actually want to be second in command if donald trump were to win in november, let me bring you in here. how the country we talk, the words biden is used as common as maybe the word
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these days. and we are divided and a lot of sense and frankly, that's part of the beauty of democracy. have conversations that are productive with a common goal of advancing our society it, but divided as we are today, has a very different connotation and we've seen just yesterday what's happened. but what is the latest polling tell us in terms of the divisions and the state of political extremism in this country. you know, i think there's a difference between division and hatred. yes. and we're we're where we're ending up now is ending close to the hatred one way you can see this is just by looking asking party members, do you have an extremely or very unfavorable view of the other party, you go back 20 years ago we're talking less than a third of the electorate felt that way about the other party. yeah. you look at where we are today. we are talking nearly 70 of americans who say that they have a very unfavorable view of the other party. the fact is hatred is now taken over as the main political feeling,
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negative partisanship has taken over as the main political feeling. that is what's driving. it's not love of their own party necessarily. it's hatred of the other party. and i just would wish taking off my analyst hat for a second, putting on my american hat for a second. i wish that we could just lower the temperature just lowering. this week is supposed to be a celebration of democracy that is what conventions are. and instead, what we're talking about is fortunately, not an actual assassination, but a failed assassination were present frankly, this whole thing has been disgusting. and i am very hopeful that we can come together and not be divided as much anymore if even for just a month or two, just to lower the temperature can i say one? >> i think i agree. i'm much feel you lowering the temperature and i've been trying to think about and i've been really reflecting on this coming into the republican national convention as a
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democrat think about my dear friend alice stewart, who told tragically lost a couple of weeks ago i remember there being a moment where there i could have been on the verge of going from division two hatred with alice because we had a disagreement but there's those moments of intervention where you have to be the adult? yes. alice wasn't a dog i was an adult and we did not change our point of views on policy, but we actually had a conversation and we don't we aren't modeling that as an adult. i was glad that the president called the former president to say, i hope you're okay. okay. i'm glad the first lady called melania to say, i hope you're okay. it's funny. i don't even know they ever talked before because they didn't happen at that inauguration. but at moments it's like this. we have to be the adult. and that means we have to model behavior. so again, we can disagree on politics, but i have to see your humanity and then you have to see mind, you
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know, when you raise a good point, we've introduced the conference in that condition, melania trump former first lady, and she issued a statement, i think it's worth revisiting for the reasons that we're articulating right now at this moment in time. and she responded by saying a monster who recognized my husband as an inhuman political machine an attempted to ring out donalds passion. his laughter, and geneity, love of music, and inspiration. the core facets of my husband's life, his human side well, it varied below the political machine. she went on to talk about as well of how her life could it change and remind us all of her young son, barron, is growing over how the public side but you hear you hear this in this notion of the political machine. the political machine, sometimes it's personified with a person, but oftentimes we all collectively think this is how the sausage is made, right? bite your tongue every time it was the political machine post to foster the environment for
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that exchange of ideas, to have disparate perspectives. that's supposed to be okay, to be able to challenge each other that old aphorism iron sharpens iron sharpens iron. if that's a great thing but i think the problem here, laura is that this disintegration, this disconnectedness that we have witnessed for about a decade or two now, it has caused. individual on the liberal side, on the conservative side to see each other as being an existential threat to their existence. when you reach that point, then you get to the level where you do see violence. you do see the pillars. that's what a form and hold our foundation slowly begin to crumble. and my concern here, if we don't tone down this rhetoric as those threads rip apart like a fabric when it ripped so much, you can't repair it and so i hope the american people understand we're on the brink of going off a cliff and the parachute is not going to open if we don't stop you know, i think we all have we oren come back to this point and it's so important and we're going to continue to talk about this because here we are about 100
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days away on the presidential election and i know there are voters out there who want to cast their ballot in favor of who they think will best supportive of democracy. >> and the conversation that will happen this week. and in the weeks to come will entail just that ahead. trump is saying in his first interview after the rally shooting that he has rewritten his rnc speech and i am so eager to hear what it will entail so we're going to talk about with the former 2024 gop presidential candidate, the former governor, isa hutchinson plus to eyewitnesses who this shooting, joining meta describe the chaos that they saw and what ensued last month. i spent hours on a spreadsheet color-coding my expenses, and tracking subscriptions thought i had it all sorted out. >> then i got hit with two unexpected renewals and an annual fee that's when i switched to rocket monday and at that finds him cancel subscriptions, lowers bills, and automatically tracks and
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stephanie elam in los angeles and this is cnn well hours before the republican national convention, former president donald trump telling the washington examiner that he is rewriting the speech he plans to give this time with the focus on unity saying, quote, this is a chance to bring the whole country, even the whole world, together. well, joining me here in milwaukee, former republican presidential candidate and governor of arkansas, esa i can send. thank you so much for being here. what a time we are in governor.
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i you have been critical of former president trump in the past i am very curious to know what your opinion is of how both trump and biden had been handling this near-tragedy in america i think they've been handling it very well and see it as a moment. >> to reduce harsh rhetoric. rhetoric and to bring the country together president biden first made a very gracious statement appropriate, supported the fact that they suspended the cam some campaign activities is consistent with that. and then i'm just thrilled with donald trump and the introspection that i think this serious event, his life has caused, he could've lost his lie while he showed determination and vigor at that moment and at the same time, i think it caused him to reflect and i hope so this is a moment
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that with president biden's calmness and they are with president trump rewrite in his speech. it's an opportunity pretty to really showcase a positive things about our country and to diminish the harsh writing and you think about it, democrats are saying donald trump is an existential threat to our democracy republicans are saying reelecting joe biden will be the end western civilization and so people interpret these words in different ways. and so i think we have to contend in this world of politics very vigorously and difference of it diaz. but a harshness brings out the worst in people and i think this is an opportunity to bring out the best of america, you know, what, always struck me is learning more about the person who was is the shooter in this suspect that this would have been the first time they
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would have been able to vote in this country for a presidential election. that struck a chord with me, governor for so many reasons, because we know that a lot of division and rhetoric that we speak about for you and i who have been a apart and seeing it as adults, as voters. but there are people who are growing up to have been existing in that very world. called matches struck a big chord with me and you heard president biden talking about lowering the temperature, resolving our differences at the ballot box now there may be introspection for trump trump, and maybe statement from biden. but what about the electorate? will the vitriol subdue it subside? well, i think that's a test to this convention i hope that there's a whole lot of people rewriting speed which is at this moment and so it's president trump, former president trump sets the tone of this convention and i think you'll see people following that town but the big question is whether how long it lasts, right whether this is just a moment in time to take to say
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we need to come together and whether it changes down the road because governors excuse me, that would be almost a complete one ad from a lot of messaging we have seen up till now that would be to have that to be a sustained change would be remarkable yes. we'd be going for calling the enemy scumbags to say and we need to get along and it's an important change. and words mean something claude, president trump for his initiative and saying we're going to use this convention for something good to bring america together. and then you're going to have the democratic convention and you know, it's a time for defining differences. but once again, i've been a federal prosecutor and people respond to harsh rhetoric curry in different ways. it could just blow off our back when we say, well, that's just that's what a heated campaigns about. but to others, it's marching orders first and so we want to know more about the fbi and the
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secret service investigation of the perpetrator of this assassination tam but we know that people respond in different ways. you reduce the harshness of the rhetoric. and it brings a more calming spirit to america. >> it puts a greater emphasis as well hello, who the running mate would be for the former president, because if it's about lowering the temperature, it's about trying to reinforce statement and ideology about unifying and beyond it's that much more important. do you have any insight on who that type of candidate could be to run alongside a more introspective donald trump well of course, we've got to see how this develops over the coming weeks. >> but i thought about whether this changes the dynamics of who he needs is a vp probably doesn't. i think the criteria is still there for someone who is loyal, who can be president at a moment's notice that reflects his philosophy but
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you've got some of the candidates that for vp that are more harsh in their rhetoric than others. and we'll see if that makes a difference, but i'm confident that whoever he selects it's his vp will follow donald trump's lead. if he becomes harsh in september that's exactly what the party will become and so it's really up to his leadership to define in the differences. the reason this election is important and what he offers. but to do it with a tone that does not further divide our country. >> and governor, we'll of course but the into tomorrow the investigation and what went wrong and how to prevent anything like this from happening. thank you for joining us. thank you, laura well, there are the images that are now seared into our collective minds and the minds of millions of americans and dare i say the entire world hold the incident a bullet graze donald trump's ear, and the moments immediately after one of the photographers who captured this chaos joins me next let me introduce you to
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right now. >> so what are you waiting for? >> chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta? listen wherever you get your podcasts what people heard and saw with donald trump was nearly assassinated will stay with them likely for the rest of their entire lives the images they will most certainly go down in the history books, new york times photographer doug mills capturing these shocking images when trump realized something whizzed past his ear then trump removing his right hand only to see blood on his fingers. in this close-up photo taken by getty images, you can see blood slowly oozing down the face after secret service agents took trump to the ground for his own protection. and the seminal image from yesterday, trump emerging from the chaos, raising his fist in the air and american flag waving in the background, the ultimate symbol of defiance ions in the face of the violence that had occurred against him joining me. now,
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the man who took that photo associated press photographer evan vucci, and mark mcevoy, a trump supporter who attended the rally yesterday. let me begin with you here, evan, and thank you both for being hearing, helping to be our own eyes on the ground as of yesterday how did you evan get that photograph? and what was going through your mind during that extraordinary moment well, i mean, what was going through my mind was i just wanted to do the job that i needed that minute her report moment. >> so i just sort of went into work mode started, doing my job photograph thing trying to get the whole scene thinking about what might have been making sure that my composition was good. that's all really i was thinking about i didn't realize you, know the impact that the photo would have until
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much later i mean, first of all, you're a constant professional. >> you thinking about all those things i meant to dock demand this moment in history that will live on. i mean, there has been, as you mentioned quite a visual reaction to your photo, the atlantic called it legendary, the new yorker said quote, it carries echoes of the marines at euo jima in the former president's bloody defiance that even evokes rocky mount boa. now, when you were looking at there's 24 hours later, i wonder what it is. you see, given that distance of time, knowing what you captured i wasn't seeing any of those things. >> i was what i was saying was my job as a photo journalist is to bring you the viewer into my eyes and give you an idea of what's in front of my lens and that's all i could think about was just doing the work for the viewers. our members, and just trying to do the job the best i
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could. i never thought about any of those things you know, mark, we're talking to evan captured the moment you were there, your eyes, your ears, your senses you were there and they were the press pan, i guess when the shooting happened, can you just walk us through that moment? what that was like? >> it was actually there was a lot of feelings going on simultaneously. i heard pop, pop, pop those three shots that rang out and they could tell they were smaller caliber. and i knew it was a 22 sounded like a 22 and then louder caliber shots followed, which i assume was who was snipers firing back lauer shots, pop, pop, pop, pop, like sounded like five more shots. return fryer me and panic ensued. pete, what? ducking but for some reason i didn't feel fear like i just
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knew they weren't aimed at me and i maintain my composure. right. ai short trump go down the first few shots and i was scared. >> but then when i shot him come back up with the secret service and he raised his hands raised his fist, and all of a sudden the crowd just went crazy like usa usa. >> usa. it was just just a static like everybody was just i just in unison just felt incredible. i think. but there was still some people just could not be consoled at the same time, you know, they would just got to the point where they would just sobbing and weeping and could not be brought out of that. so i would say the emotions ran from zero
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to ten in just i think that was a moment that just was almost indescribable to me that that was the sense that i got from that moment. and really it was just all in a matter of ten or 12 seconds tops the way you have both describing these different vantage points and just the reaction from what that emotional spectrum must have been like. >> for people who were present, let alone the nation watching it, and feeling a lot of the domino effect evan, mark, thank you both so much for being here thank you for having me well president biden warning against political violence after the assassination attempt against trump. >> but anger has slowly been boiling over in america for quite some time. former capitol police officer harry dunn, who experience political violence on january 6 joins me next
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be more than megan thee stallion? to be making the membrane, you won't break yeah. start kicking rahel solomon in new york and this is cnn the attempted assassination of donald trump's burden, new concerns about political violence. >> speaking tonight biden says there's no place for violence in politics. but a handful of republicans blame the shooting on trump's critics ohio senator and trump vice presidential hopeful jd vance went a step further than that, saying that biden's rhetoric calling trump a threat to democracy led to the attempted assassination georgia congressman mike collins, jessin biden ordered the shooting and calling for local prosecutors to indict biden for quote inciting an assassination now there is zero evidence that president biden was involved, but it is an example of the heated discourse. once again
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infecting our body politic even after an assassination attempt well, joining me now is someone who's all too familiar with political violence capitol officer, capitol hill officer harry dunn, who protected the capitol on january 6. he's also been a biden campaign surrogate. harry, my friend, good to see you this evening, but my goodness is having to read resuscitate what we're out to recite, excuse me. what was just said in different camps about the conspiracy theories and beyond. i mean, you're somebody who is no stranger to this. you have survived the assault on the capitol on january 6, and so a lot of this must be quite triggering. to hear politicized reactions to having that maybe would have had a universalizing effect. what is your reaction when you heard the news of a shooting attempted assassination? of the former president sure, we thank you. >> as always, good to be with
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you, but first and foremost, you there's like the president said, and so many people have said, there's no room anywhere in the united states for political violence. it should be condemned by any and everybody, no matter who it is against, whether that be gretchen whitmer, president trump paul pelosi steve scalise. anybody it needs to be condemned. i'm glad i'm glad that the former president is safe and that's what everybody's focused should be right now, there is an individual, right? now who was not with his family right now. forgive me for getting his name or blanking on his name right now, corey, but he died. he was killed at the hands of a lunatic and that's what we need to be focusing on. and that's never never, ever be acceptable i mean, just in hearing you say and remind the world about the various instances of people who have been victims of a tax attacks
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on politicians, attacks on their families. >> you remind us about steve scalise surviving a shooting, the husband of nancy pelosi surviving a hammer attack. i mean, you are a former capitol police officer. you have been in the rooms where it happens in terms of the policy disputes and beyond. but it's one thing to have division and statements that show that there is a distinction between how one person feels or the other. this level of political violence we're in right now. what does it do to you to hear about it it sucks to be frank because like i said, what we went through on january 6 with the nation witnessed was the result of what it was political violence is exactly what it was. >> they were there with, they were chanting, hang mike pence, and that they were going to kill nancy pelosi. they were there violent with violent intent on at the behest no, the president, the former president. so anybody right now, like it's so frustrating
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to hear the rhetoric that's going on anybody from any party attempting to score political points in a moment like this, but we need to read, yes, we do need to take, the temperature, down as so many people have said that temperature needs to come way down because, you know, sure. people have talked about just the grace of god that the former president is still with us you know, what if it's not so lucky next time not even just the former president, like you said, we lost dedicated public service to this country. so people's lives are being changed then i've always fought for accountability since january 6. and with the supreme court issuing their ruling, it's clear that we have to do it at the ballot box. and not on on a battlefield like president biden said earlier tonight i mean, the idea of being able to articulate your grievances by
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voting. >> that is what democracy really is. and i wonder about the bringing down the temperature in the room. i hear this being said i honestly wonder how does president biden move forward to campaign against trump? how does trump before with the campaign against biden knowing that the rhetoric has been heated, it has been a heightened temperature, really not expecting what has happened this past weekend, but hottie, of course correct. air your grievances about both believing that the other is legitimate threat to democracy and then not inviting voters or people who are taking it somehow as a message subliminally to be something different with that word well, you have to be hundred percent honest first and foremost, if we want to take the temperature down. >> sure. which we need to do, we all as american people, heat sickness for today. and the first thing you need to do is be honest about the things that happened as somebody attempted to assassinate the former president, that happened. also,
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the president summit, a mob to attack the capitol on january 6 on his behalf, until you have people acknowledging on both sides that those two things happen, then you can't really be you how realistic and honest are you being with yourself? that you want to take the political the temperature down, so to speak, because you're not even being honest about what happened that day until this day even now just referring to january 6 as a peaceful protests that may be got out of hand. that's not what happened that day. and until we're being honest about what happened i am all for bringing the temperature down, but until we're being honest about what really happened. and like i said, yesterday, was it a failed assassination attempt by a lunatic that has no place? there's no place in this world for that type of behavior. >> harry dunn. thank you so much for joining us this evening. it's always important to hear your perspective, particularly back with us now harry enten. thank you.
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shermichael singleton and also ashley allison lee. begin with you, ashley, i want to hear a little bit more from what biden had to say they in the oval office tonight listen, one of the things he said was an all talked about this i'll be traveling this week, making the case for our record and vision. >> my vision for the country, our vision i'll continue to speak out strongly for our democracy. stand up for our constitution and the rule of law to call for action at the ballot box no violence on our streets that's how democracy should work it's how it should work. >> ashley. but is there a way to engage in the type of heated campaign that they have both been in and avoid this so i really appreciate what with what officer dunn said about having to be honest i feel like there are people in this country. a lot of people who are hurting who have different experiences through a historical lens. and in this
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very moment, there are people who are still struggling from what happened on january 6, there are people who are denying what happened on january 6. there are people who are heartbroken that donald trump was. there was an attempted assassination and there are people who have conversations that are not very helpful right now i think i want to know why these folks are behaving in that way and why we aren't able to have a conversation about facts and about honesty. because i think joe biden's point is like, we don't want to go down that road, but we're not even going down the same road right now. people are on one beside of the street and someone is on a whole different road going down another side of the street and it's not like we're even going to find a way to reap to have an intersection, to have a crossroads, because we're going in such opposite directions and so the only way that i think this intervention happen, even with the truth-telling of like, i don't like your policy, i don't like your policy. is that someone has to say stop
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and say, hey, i think we're going in the wrong direction. let me tell you why unless have this conversation and we get back but right now, it's like we're talking past each other and people don't understand how other people are feeling in this moment for my gun, i wonder if that is, if this is that moment potentially, right? i mean, at the end of the day, this country will be no more, no less than what we make it no more, no less than our willingness to speak up and speak out to your point for what is just what is right. but also the speak against what's just plain wrong and if we don't have enough people, laura, who are willing to have that courage of magnanimity if you well then it does begs the question, if we are traveling onto roads so desperate and far apart from one another, will we ever meet at that intersection? and if we don't ever meet at that intersection, then again, you can only see this per valence of political violence only getting worse. and that's not what i don't think anyone any one of us would like to see if i would just maybe had a little positivity. i do think
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we shall overcome. we will overcome because we have been through tumultuous times for i mean, you think back to the 1960s, there were four major assassinations jfk medgar, evers, martin luther king junior, robert f. kennedy jr. okay. and mon mlk happened within two months of each other in 1,968. the fact is, i do believe looking at the numbers, yes, there's about a fifth of the country who believes that political violence may be acceptable, but the vast majority of americans will not stand for this garbage i certainly hope that is the case and thinking about the woes of history, even remotely, repeating itself sends shivers down our spines. thank you, all of you for all of your words and up next, a tribute to the man who died protecting his family during the shooting at rally i just found out i've been paying for 27 subscriptions it's like fine
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assassination attempt against former president trump is tragically a moment that will come to define an entire generation the scars will run especially deep for the thousands of people who were at that rally. >> most of all for the family of the man who was killed, his name is korea comparatora he was 50-years-old. he was a firefighter a husband, and a father of two daughters he was at the rally with his family and he died protecting them am i want to read for you now what his daughter, alison shared on facebook he was the best dad, a girl could ever ask for my sister and i never needed for anything. you call he would answer and he would do whatever it is you need it. if you didn't know how he would he would figure it out how he could talk and make friends with anyone which he was doing
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all day yesterday and loved every every minute of it. he was a man of god, loved jesus fiercely and also looked after our church and our members s family the media will not tell you that he died a real life superhero they're not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mom and i to the ground. they are not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet. that came at us he loved his family he truly loved us and not to take a real bullet for us. and i want nothing more than the da crime it on him and tell him. thank you. i want nothing more than to wake up. and for this to not be reality for me and my family we lost a selfless, loving husband, father brother, uncle, son, and friend. and i will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that i die. to july 13th
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will forever be a day that changed my life. i will never be the same person. i was less than 24 hours ago there are a lot of children out there that say their dad is their hero. but my dad really is mine. i don't think i would be here today without him. dad. i love you so much that there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes. i know you'll give heaven some hell i know that god is proud of the man that came to his gaetz yesterday that's our show for this evening. i will see you back here tomorrow night. right here in milwaukee. cnn's coverage continues with anderson cooper 360 and good
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