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diplomats and people from the state department and generals, et cetera. he gets the word that martin luther king had been killed the mission was halted, it was postponed. the riots broke out in the city's bobby kennedy was killed, as i said, and then that summer they go to the democratic convention with the war still going on. chaos reigns, and teddy wide said that the democratic party had lost the election that very night, but had the fate not intervened. it might have been different and that's what i think the panel has been talking about tonight. we have no idea these two huge events, the question about biden's ability to have his health and his age deal with a presidency in the right way for the campaign. and now this attack on president trump has former president trump has changed us and who knows what's going to happen in weeks and months, fate will come back again it's an extraordinary terrible, a terribly terrible and extraordinary moment. >> doris kearns goodwin. thank you. the news continues the
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source with kaitlan collins starts now and i'm kaitlan collins live from milwaukee tonight, where the republican national convention will kick off in just hours. >> a convention that has been undeniably altered by the attempted assassination of the former president. moments ago, president biden, addressing a shaken nation from the the oval office, doing so for only the third time since he has taken office. as he delivered an unmistakable message a former president was shot. >> an american citizen killed while simply exercising his freedom to support the candidate of his tuesday we cannot we must not go down this road in america the political record in this country it has gotten very heated time to cool it down we all have
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responsibility to do that the president going on to argue how he believes americans should resolve their political differences we debate and disagree. >> we compare and contrast the character the candidates the records of the issues, the agenda and a vision for america but in america, we resolve our differences at the ballot box that's how we do at the battle of box, not with bullets. the power to change america should always rest in the hands of the people not in the hands of would-be assassin president biden delivering those remarks as former president donald trump has now arrived here in milwaukee, sending another fist pump into the air as he did similar to what he did moments after he was pulled off stage by the secret service you all that agency is under intense scrutiny tonight over how a shooter was able to position himself roughly 130 yards from
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the former president and presumptive republican nominee. >> the fbi says that the 20-year-old gunman appears to have acted alone. they are still investigating and say that he did have crude explosives in his car we're also looking into whether or not this was an act of domestic terrorism. i want to get right to our cnn teams are on the ground and milwaukee audie cornish, dana bash, jonah goldberg, van jones, and scott jennings all here listening to that address from president biden tonight. dana, what did you make of what the president had to say tonight he set out to try to to combination, as you said, so well, in your opening, there, a nation that is extremely worried anxious angry and feeling like things are very much out of control. after what we saw yesterday, just three hours before where we are right now. and the fact is that the president made clear that he understands
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what's going to happen behind us starting tomorrow is going to be pretty tough on him and he argued that that's okay as long as it is in the parameters of a dialogue and a debate about policies and ideas that is supposed to happen. we'll see if that is what unfolds we don't know exactly help people who are here are going to act and react given the fact that these are the most ardent supporters of a former president who is almost assassinated yesterday. so the rawness in the nation is is exponentially bigger and will be even more so when this hall is filled, jonah, what were your takeaways i have this obsession with the fact that our politicians in both parties have talked too much about unity for too long. this country was not designed for unity checks and balances,
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separation of powers divided government wholesale, constitutional order was set up for competition. democracy is not about democracy is not about agreement. it's about this agreement. and i think joe biden tonight kind of finally got to that place where you're supposed that we don't need this country to be unified. we need this country to be better at disagreeing with each other. and that's sort of what he's getting at, is all the rhetoric he's had until now has really been about unity. donald trump's rhetoric is about nationalism, which is also just another word for unity we're not going to get there in this country that's not how the system is designed. the system was designed to pit faction against faction and have people argue about the stuff at the ballot box, not the battle box, but the ballot box and he was getting at that. i don't know if it's going to be enough to move the needle with anybody, but it was a welcome change in the rhetoric. >> yeah, i mean, audie, it is i was just thinking of what biden ran on in 2020 and these messages of unity that, that he did talk about resolving issues within the nation. i don't think he ever imagined he'd be
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doing so 24 hours after the attempted assassination? of his political rival. >> at the same time, i really appreciated that he tried to show people the narrative over the last couple of years of violent incidents because i think that we look back on, say, the civil rights period and we see a lot of the kind of political violence and it's very easy for us to understand and that narrative in a way the president said, we were on a road right now building another version of that. >> and if we're not careful, we will tip into the place we have been before. and i think that's what i appreciated that he came out and said, we've seen this before. we've done this before, we don't have to do it again if we choose not to yeah. i think well, first of all, i was proud of biden was proud of biden. and i was also really sad about it because he shouldn't have present united states shouldn't have to come out and give a better ballots, not bullets. address that's
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basically what you have the united states coming out here telling america ballots, not bullets, that should be pre-kindergarten. that's where we are. and i was proud of him taking on into your point we've been moving this direction for a while 2011. you had gabby giffords shot. she survived barely 2017, steve police, steve scalise or republican gets shot 2020, you have gretchen, our governor from michigan, almost kid nat, january 6 baby, you hang the vice president 2022. you've got paul pelosi don't forget. you also had real fears about what's going to happen to kavanaugh and then also, then you get to 2024. this is this is an exponentially rising curve of political violence being normalized. and so donald trump dodged a bullet. but he did not. the only one america dodge a bullet last night
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america dodged a bullet because if that thing had been a quarter-inch over you would have had an assassination. and then i don't know how it's country comes back from that because half the country would have felt that the other half of the country took up their leader. and if only a small percentage of those people felt, that means we're in a war. you have millions of people ready to do, to shoot back and so i was proud of biden about his tone was right. i hope trump also mentioned that, but this is not just yesterday. we've been moving in this direction for a long time and we need a u-turn. and scott, i mean, you advocated for biden to come out and say a lot of what he did say, which was tone down the rhetoric that it's on everybody to do that. >> and he did weave that together, citing instances where there has also been violence against republicans, against democrats, and saying this isn't just one sided political aisle that deals with this yeah. i think he got the platitudes right. here's where i thought it was lacking. he
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said the political rhetoric has gotten too hot and we've got to cool it down. and what i wanted him to say was and you know what that means me to donald trump is a genuine threat to this nation. he's a threat to our freedom. he is threat to our democracy. he is literally, literally a threat to everything america stands for. and a few days later, it's time to put donald trump in the bullseye now, now, if, if the president, i'd states had said i bear some responsibility here and i'm going to do my part this would have been a homerun he didn't do that. instead, he spread it all around which i guess is as far as he's willing to go but let me tell you how republicans are going to take that. they're going to take that as a president who has repeatedly said, i want to heal the soul of the nation and the buck stops here but with an unwillingness to acknowledge some of the things that he has said to bring us to a place that he says were in so i'm
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i'm not i look let me stipulate to things. i'm praying for joe biden. i have been since the debate we got, we've got to do better and i'm praying for this country because what happened to donald trump was at assault on our democracy and we should all be mad as americans, because that's what happened. but i need the president to take some responsibility. is your question. yes. i feel your passion in you a restrained compared to the feelings of a lot of people in your party who are very hurt and very mad i think on our side, though, the passion should also go to donald trump. if you want to go through all this mean terrible stuff he said, does not david go through it? it's a big it's pretty big pile to i like to respond to that place. but because you're right this week is the greatest opportunity for a modern presidential candidates since 911 for our president, repressible candidate to unite this country and put us in a better place. what that's going to happen. i
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don't know. i hope good. but donald trump has the leverage he has the capital, he has our attention and he has the moment, he has the moment jonah. so far, trump has actually taken a maybe surprising to sound certainly when you talk to his advisers, they want him to stay on the path that he has talking about unity and talking about how he's responded to this so far, it is a question of what happens on that stage behind us, not just on thursday night with donald trump's speech weeks, but on wednesday night when his vice presidential pick speaks, if it's senator jd vance, we've seen what he's been saying about this. and also with the other speakers who were going to get up there. >> yeah, i think i hate the phrase inflection point but we are at one in the insofar as i willing, if this if the convention takes the tone of fightback retaliate retribution, they're coming to get you. so we have to get them first you know, the head of the heritage foundation recently said, we're going to have a second american revolution. it'll be bloodless so long as the left lets it be if that's
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the response to this, and we're going down a dark path. there was i agree entirely with scott. i disagree with some of the stuff, but his last point i agree with. entirely, this is an unbelievable opportunity for donald trump to take the high road, which would be a huge political win for him. >> yeah. and i think the point that you're making kaitlan is when it comes to the former president, when it comes to his vp pick, that is potentially controllable if they so choose, they're going to be a lot of speakers here who are not controllable in the best of times and are going to have very going headline positions. and it is going to be a very open question whether they can or want to follow the path that's got that you're describing right? yeah. i mean, it has changed. what we'll see. i mean, there's the different themes for the day, but i've already heard from people who say, i'm working on my speech, i'm tweaking it. i'm changing. every person is going to want to talk about what happened last night in butler,
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pennsylvania. i'll be listening for the word vae. it will there be a lot of language that says they don't want they shouldn't, they're going after they, which is supposed to delineate right. and to say some someone but they won't say who it is. maybe they will. i'm also listening for kind of biblical references and language. there. one reaction i noticed is a sense that god had protected the former president president. and i'm interested to see if that kind of language will surface in some of these speeches and talks. and certainly from the delegates. so you're traveling in, you encounter people and there was a lot of talk about sort of how he is protected, so to speak, it'll be interesting to see if that come up, comes up and lastly, i wouldn't discount the terror and change when someone takes a shot at you, like the emotions that go through you and to think that maybe they're all just sitting around politely saying, how should we talk about this this week when like the adrenaline
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of that, the intensity the, of that when the president got back up, he said fight and it will be interesting to see what that morrison to over the next couple of days but it also could be a version of fight. >> a remarkable moment. thank you all for that. of course, we're watching all this closely to see what that speech does look like. this comes as back in washington, congress is demanding answers from the secret service tonight, the republican chair of the house intelligence committee will join me next. plus, he kept sure. some of the most remarkable images from that day. they will never be forgotten in american history. one image appears to show the bullet flying right past donald trump's face et photographer who took this photo is here with me someone needs to customize and save hundreds of liberty mutual there's an elevator only pay for what you need today. my name is drexel
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four to four this is cnn. the world's news network the gunman was positioned on a rooftop about 130 yards away from the former president. >> and we have new video tonight from tmc, a warning that this video is obviously and understandably disturbing it shows the gunman opening fire from that rooftop is the crowd panics in a seconds before counter snipers kill him republican and democratic lawmakers agree on one thing
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tonight, in light of that video, they want answers from the secret service. the house speaker mike johnson is pledging to carry out a full investigation as the chairs of the house over recite and homeland security committees are also demanding records and testimony my next guest is the chairman of the house intelligence committee and is called the shooting a failure of the overall intelligence network. and chairman mike turner joins me now, and chairman, great to have you. i understand that the house intelligence committee was your staff was briefed by the department of homeland security today. what can you tell us about what they learned when i'll be receiving a briefing tomorrow. >> you don't have to be security experts is sued the failures here, as you were just describing the fact that perimeter was not secure really is just astounding. i think anyone who looks at it in the fact that he was able to get off shots where he had already been identified as position had been identified. is just really it's confusing an astounding. we certainly saw heroism from the secret service agents on
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the stage who rose to the occasion to protect donald trump, but they're going to be lots of questions that we're all we're going to have in this instance. i think the initial reports that we're receiving or just about the shooter himself, there can be lots of questions there. what contacted he had with others not just as motivation, which obviously was killed on trump about y and the whole fact that reconnaissance occurred and he found displaced it to be located that gate him such this clear shot that could have resulted in the death of donald trump are all questions that are going to have to be answered as to how did this come about and have you learned anything new about the shooter that you can share with us? so at this point the investigation is going to be ongoing. they're going to be things that are going to be difficult to learn. but it's not as simple as going into his iphone and looking at his texts and emails will be looking at what was his presence in social media. does he have other types of email accounts that for words, they're encrypted are
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difficult to get to. who is he and communications with all of those are going to be thinks to be able to paint the picture of who this gentleman walks yeah, it is your briefing that you said you have tomorrow with the department of homeland security or who do you expect that briefing the briefing? major questions you have for the fbi? >> well, you know, he's also concerning to me as to how the passing of the time between secret service and the fbi occurs in this, the fbi is doing the investigation. secret service is supposed to secure location, but we need to make certain that we leverage all of our law enforcement and all of our security forces to understand what should be happening, where were the failures and how can we fix them right away? the fact that this so glaringly was placing a donald trump's life at risk really requires immediate action. and i'm certainly going to look to the fbi as to what he saudi going to be immediately working with the secret service. so this does
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not happen thank got donald trump survived and thank god that he iconic photo of him staying there with his strength, rising back up the podium to let us all know that that he's alive thank god that the shooter was not successful in certainly our condolences to the the family who lost a loved one and two those as we give our prayers to those who are healing, you have to think that people should not go to a political rally and lose their life in america yeah i think that's something everyone can agree on. and when you when you have questions about the security lapses at that rally, that as you said, are obvious. you know, the secret service said today, there's no changes to the security around the republican national convention. president biden ordered them to review that it is, do you think changes should be made in light of what happened in butler well, i think certainly they should review the perimeter itself because as you become aware that there is a heightened threat the natural
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response is to create a larger security perimeter, i would think that that certainly would would be worth while here in this instance knowing that there were others who have seen this, this is obviously a vital volatile time and bds arrested kitchen we had gotten a full comprehensive briefing from the secret service, yet either obviously, they're still investigating, but we have heard from the fbi. >> we heard from pennsylvania state police police late last night is the secret service being transparent enough? would you like to hear from the director publicly? >> i absolutely. and i think when i think we will i mean, a big question everyday also has is that now that we're getting the picture of the people that were there, that this individual had been identified, not just how did he get there, but how was he able to do this? once he had been identified, he should not have been permitted to get off, not even one shot. nevertheless, eight house intelligence chair mike turner, i hope you'll come back and let us know how that briefing goes tomorrow. if you learn any new information, thank you for
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joining us thank and with all of these major questions, i'm joined now by scene and law enforcement contributor and retired fbi supervisory special agent, steve moore, and also cnn's senior law enforcement analyst, the former washington dc police chief and the philadelphia police commissioner, charles ramsey. and it's great to have both of your expertise here tonight with so many questions that we have, is steve we did hear from president biden on where this investigation stands tonight. this is what he said from the oval office not know the motive of the shooter yet we don't know his opinions or affiliations. >> we don't know whether he had help or support or if he communicate with anyone else law enforcement professionals, as i speak, are investigating those questions? >> that part there at the end caught my ear about if he acted alone or in concert with other people. how do they go through determining that we know they're trying to get access to his phone tonight. what else
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did they do? >> well, there's certain things that you would see if there were it was assistance, you would see him doing things utilizing money that wasn't his. you would have unknown funding covering certain things and so there would be things that just stick out too to the investigator what the president was probably told is there is no indication of an accomplice. there is no indication of any of these things that we are looking at it doesn't mean that it's not there, but so far there's been no indication at this and so you can't say, well he was absolutely alone. absolutely had no political ideation on this it's just that there isn't anything obvious. now and chief ramsey, when you look at the actual scene and
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talking about what that looked like, there look at the shooter's location here. >> i mean, outside that security perimeter, obviously, if you're familiar with these rallies, they have an outer perimeter of middle perimeter, and inner perimeter that's just the stage where donald trump himself usually is with agents around him. but outside of that, where the shooter was, it's about 120 maybe 130 yards from the lectern you have run police departments that have worked with the secret service on coordinating security for these big events. so when it comes down to it ultimately, where does the responsibility lie for that roof building and securing it where that shooter was located probably the responsibility lies with everyone who is involved in the security planning that includes the secret service, as well as state and local police that were involved. >> there. you have an inner perimeter, you have an outer perimeter. bottom line is he was about 130 to 150 yards away from the former president and was able to get off a volley of shots now, our understanding
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based on the reporting, is that law enforcement and spectators saw this individual thought he was suspicious, that information was relayed to the secret service, but it's not just on the secret service. what about the officers that were closest by two who reached out and actually tried to put their hands on his guide to find out who he was he never should have been able to get on a rooftop supposedly, this was identified and hopefully it was identified a few a few days before as they began to look at the location where the rally was going to be held. you know, you've got a building there, you know, you've got possibility of somebody getting high ground and being able to take a shot did they choose to do so? you have to pay attention to these things that they use. drones that they have an adequate number of people stationed in these buildings and around these buildings to make sure no one would have direct access to it. there are a lot of questions, but the ultimate responsibility for their protection of the former vice former president and the
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president is the secret service. so they can wash their hands up and say, well, that was the locals. they have that part of it. now, you've got it all. yeah. but you've got help and so it's everybody's responsibility well, and stephen, i i've been to dozens of these trump rallies and i've seen the counter snipers. they're often. where were you are you can see them on top of the white house in certain locations, any high rise structure, you can see them there typically, but normally you see them. they're kind of walking around. they have binoculars, they're looking at, you see the video that we see from saturday thursday night, the two counter snipers are in position and then obviously ultimately fired the shots that killed this gunman. i mean, what does that tell you about? did they see something or how they got into position here? >> they were, they were what we call honor on their guns the entire time, which is different from obviously somebody walking around, somebody who's walking around on a, on a sniper perch
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or a roof nearby, is somebody who is not useful as a sniper. you've got to be on your gun. you've got to be ready to fight fire i was trained in this years ago and one thing you learn is that if you're not on your gun in your useless, so i think what you're seeing here is only two of them the maybe one team of counter snipers. i believe there were at least two more they. were from all from all different directions. if they were doing this right so yeah, i see them ready to go. but i am kind of curious as to why none of the observers you go sniper and observer teams. why none of the observers saw somebody climbing up on the he roof even though it was technically out of the inner perimeter. it's still i mean, hundred and 50 yards for trained sniper. that's a gimme yeah. there were four counter
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sniper teams were told obviously we don't know where the others were located in this area. chief ramsey just overall we've i've spoken to you so many times in moments of crisis, where we are watching scenes unfolding and obviously transparency is key and even if investment to are still underway, it's important to get facts out there, to get information out there. i wonder what you make of how the secret service has been in terms of being forthcoming, they warrant at that press briefing last night, there was one agent who was speaking today about rnc security here in milwaukee it hasn't been sufficient in your view? >> no, it hasn't. and they made a mistake in my opinion than not at least have a presence at the press conference last night. and the press conference today, i watched it and i don't know what the goal was, but if it was to reassure the public that they've got this and then make whatever changes they have to make and its security is going to be they failed at it because they just didn't say anything.
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i mean, someone from headquarters in my opinion, should have been there or at least given permission to the coordinator to be able to at least say we had the incident that occurred last night is under investigation. we're going to take a deep dive into it will make whatever adjustments we have to make to make sure this it doesn't happen again and so forth and so on. they didn't even do that. in fact there is my understanding that the prior to the press conference, one of the people said told the members of the press don't ask me a question about last night, what do you think the press is going to do? that's going to be the first question they ask. you have to be upfront and you have to address this. you can't hide from it bad news doesn't get better over time yeah. >> i think you said it best to charles ramsey, steve moore, great to have both of your expertise submit these lingering questions tonight. thank you for that. and up next, we are going to hear from an eyewitness to history feet away from donald trump during this assassination attempt, he
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moment that for president donald trump was taken offstage by his secret service protection detail. all 94 terrifying seconds where immortalized and videos, pictures, and audio you see something they said, take a look at what happened when you're ready on, you ready
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good to know where does let me get much to me i gotcha let me get my shoes. you're headed so we're going to move to my next guest was there to witness all of it. appeal to prize photographer for the new york times, doug mills is where he often is when news is happening in the front row. he captured
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the chilling moment as a bullet appear to whizzed past the former president's ear and doug mills is here with me now. and one a.m. so grateful that you're safe and it's just being in that press corps and to see the people we know i saw your white hat running in front of the stage as all this was happening. i mean, you were feet away from donald trump when did you realize what was going on? >> kaitlan. i guess i was trying to put him between the flag and the podium and photographing there. and then when he kinda gestured to his right and i heard the pops, i don't have a gun, so i don't know what an ar 15 sounds like. never heard one i first i thought it was like a motorcycle or some sort of machinery and then when i saw him grab his ear and he kind of winced and then immediately went down. i thought, oh, my god, he's been shot i mean, i get chills saying now and it would do so much adrenaline going on then once he went down my first reaction was to run
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around to the side and try and get a picture of him down on the ground. and by that time i got there, he was completely covered by the secret service agents that are on his detail. and all the staff because yelling the secret service is yelling at me, yelling and all the other divers, there were four of us in the buffer zone, as you know, and it was pretty chaotic and they just kept yelling, get down active shooter, get down, get down, get down. and i probably didn't do the safest thing because i reacted and went straight to the stage and started shooting just taking pictures, just like a lot of the other photographers. but could you hear what was what was happening? >> there that audio i had not heard before i mean, it's gives me chills, but i did not hear any all we heard was screaming the woman crying. >> we heard i did hear it right at the beginning when i got around the corner, i thought i heard him yelling, sir, down, down, down, down and then it was just nothing but get down, get down active shooter, get down, get down. and then at one
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point, i started thinking about okay, if as he alive i would just like what's going on there clearly covering and then i thought, okay, i've got to get over to the side because i think they're going to take him off the stairs. you and i know how that setup looks and as many times as we've covered the president, they have to give an exit for him. there has to be egress. so you then you take this it's photo. i mean, this is the photo where in that red circle that's what appears to be the bullet that ultimately appears to zero did you know that you had no idea? i mean, when i started looking through my sony camera to try and transmitting back to the office the first things i was thinking of is i got to get the pictures of him coming off stage showing his bloody year and that defiant fist pump that he gave so those were the first pictures i sent and we the pool was directed back off the stage. and when the president left in the suv to go to the
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hospital. they told us, hey, you guys have all got to move out of here. this is an active crime scene. you've got to move. we got to find a place for you. so they literally took us to the president's hold, the tent where he normally comes in there before before he comes on stage and we staff still in their staff was in there. there were a lot of tears in that in that tent it was hard to see a lot of members of staff were hugging each other. a lot of tears, a couple of the press people were pretty upset about it. >> doug, you have covered the white house and so many president's and you're this brilliant photographer. and i think it's always kind of in the back your mind when you're covering someone who obviously has a lot of threats against it did you ever think that you'd see an attempted assassination? >> never dreamed of it, never thought of it, never was very young when ronald reagan, the assassination attempt against him happened. and i never, never even thought that that whatever it was always a possibility, but i always thought it would be in a not in
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a secure what i felt like a secure situation like that where there's so much security presence, there's police everywhere, whether they're on the roofs are on the ground you have local police, you have state police, you have police are out of the town. secret service, so i never never once thought it would be happened right in front of me and i didn't i really didn't know that that i had that picture into one of the editors after i sent all the first pictures and i just like, oh, my gosh, i got a text back saying you won't believe what's on one of your images? and she sent jennifer center-back to me and said, you know, i think we can actually see bullet and i said, well, hold on until i get the actual raw image out of my camera. look to look. and so i put it on my laptop and i was able to confirm and put away a lot of the conspiracy theories that we're going out there, which is, you know really hard to see. and it shows why your work is so important. >> and the other photographers who were there, doug mills. thank you. and we're just grateful that you're safe.
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thank you. kaitlan. thank grateful everybody's safe. >> absolutely. and of course, we are following and continuing to follow the breaking news here on former president donald trump and the investigation that is underway into that attempted assassination also, there are major changes going to be happening on what was scheduled to happen on stage here behind me when the republican convention can gets kicked off to tomorrow, we'll tell you what differences to expect right after this prompting is july 16 in the 70 were all these deals could be more to making this dalian. >> i could be making the membrane. you won't yeah, start thinking when they saw dust settles and the engine roars, the thing you care about is the job well done. well, when you get your tools from harbor freight? something about the job feels different. >> your wallet, whatever you do, do it for less at harbor freight listen, i might not be
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in washington appear to be on the same page about one thing turning down the heat look political record in this country has gotten very heated time to cool it down. but why we said au, political differences in america, is so vigorous debates and campaigns and ultimately elections, not through political violence. >> the mock resy is about discussion of where we are as a nation and how we go forward we have to see one another as fellow americans are not enemies that is a sentiment being shared by lawmakers with very different political views. >> but we've also heard from others like ohio senator jd vance, also a vice presidential contender for donald trump, who posted this and the hours after the shooting, saying the central premise of the biden campaign is that president donald trump and is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs that rhetoric led directly to the to president trump's attempted
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assassination. joining me tonight is democratic senator cory booker of new jersey and senator, i think a lot of people turn to lawmakers when something like this happens obviously this is unprecedented, but in a moment of crisis like this. and i just wonder from your perspective, is trump is saying this speech is going to meet the moment that history demands. it's a chance to bring together why in a moment like this, it has turned to finger-pointing for some instead of really soul searching well, i can't speak to what motivates that. >> i mean, obviously we live in a culture that often you see people trying to exploit moments for political gain. but i have been affirmed by some of these voices have been hearing not just on both sides of the political aisle, but in larger elements of our culture. and i agree fully that we need to tamp down political rhetoric, but i'm hoping we go a lot further than that i could to serve on the foreign relations committee and travel around the world. and i'm now convinced
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that the greatest threat to this nation, it's not some foreign adversary it's the growing tribalism and hate within our own country. where we find it hard to recognize that the lines that divide us are not nearly as strong as the ties that bind us. in fact, that we need each other. no side is going to vanquish the other. we have to find ways to build common ground and to find common cause. that's america at its best. and frankly, it's the america that the world needs and so i hope this isn't just tamping down the political rhetoric but recognizing that authe in our politics don't really tell the truth about us, that we actually have more things that we agree on than we disagree on. that there is a lot of room for compromise and a lot of room frankly, to do great things together as a country president, biden ran in 2020, hoping to heal the deep divisions that we do still see in the united states today, i wonder from your view what that campaign, what his campaign looks like in the wake of an
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attack on his political rival. >> he did say he's going to continue with at this week well, you know, i remember during the primaries literally standing next to him on the debate stage. and then backstage talking about these themes that would eventually become a lot of what he said he wanted to campaign on and i agree with him we are a nation that needs healing i mean, we have people that can't even sit down at the same thanksgiving table because of the hatred within their own family that's centered around political tribalism and i've had so many experiences out and about and airports where people recognize me and not always for the good people come at me and i try to remind them, have had some breakthroughs and letting them know that wait a minute. i bet you there's more we agree on than we disagree on. and we have a lot of these sort, this competition now, whether it's for social media platforms or a lot of our news who's that
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really has to try to keep people's eyes on screens. and often focus on division and debate and the misbehavior of politicians. and that seems to really miss the larger point that there are a lot of bipartisan bills that get done. i've done a lot that don't receive the same proportional intended gen. as the debates and the fights and the bad behavior. we have got to start re-examining our culture in terms of our political divisiveness and tribalism. and start doing things that really do. he'll us by opening ourselves up. to the ideas with more empathy and compassion to other folk this is obviously a bended the 2024 campaign. and what we are hearing from both candidates what does it mean for what we were just talking about a you days ago, the efforts by some people in your party to get biden to step down from the top of the ticket, do you believe that the president should stay as the democratic nominee for your party?
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>> well, let me tell you those discussions are still going on i think a lot of folks obviously are still dealing with the tragedy of yesterday the death of an american, two others critically wounded and the assassination attempt on the president of the united states i know president biden is the nominee right now, and we're heading to our own convention and i think the president knows he has a lot of work to do, to do what's important, which is to unify the democratic party and get excitement and enthusiasm. and again, i know they're making a lot of having a lot of difficult conversations and having a lot of a soul searching about what the best way forward is i know there's a lot of people that have disagreeing views but i know the most important thing for democrats or the ideals and principles what we fight for making sure americans have health care and affordable prescription drugs making sure that we step up and continue to grow this economy in a way that works not just for some, but for everyone. making sure that we address where are you the
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border tighter. i've been very, very pointed with press all throughout the week that i'm not airing these things publicly. i have very directly had conversations with the white house with the president and his team and with chuck schumer, our leader but i'm a big believer that right now the worst thing to do in terms of hurting the democratic brand is to air a lot of these issues publicly. that's my decision. and i'm going to make sure that i position myself best to support whoever our nominee is coming out of the convention senator cory booker. thank you for your time tonight i do on over a quick programming note, i mentioned that new interview that former president donald trump has done with salena zito of the washington examiner. she will be coming up at 10:00 with abby phillip. we'll be back in a moment after a quick break. >> which looks better. this or this seems clear to me, if you
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took place in butler, pennsylvania last night where one person was killed, three more were wounded, including, of course, the former president of the united states. >> each of them has a family that was impacted by the violence violence that will stay with them forever. the former first lady, melania trump put it this way in a letter to the nation today, sharing how her and barron trump's life as she put it, were quote, on the brink of a devastating change. she wrote that her husband's passion, laughter, and annuity, love of music and inspiration were almost taken away by violent bullet tonight, the families of three other men who were at that rally are also permanently changed. david dutch, and james copenhagen were both shot and are now in stable condition. thankfully, tonight, after being critically injured at that rally were told that both are resting at hospitals with scars, both physical and emotional that will last longer further