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>> today, donald trump scored a big legal win as a judge dismissed his classified documents case this comes less than 48 hours after the former president rallying in pennsylvania survived an attempted assassination. this hour we're also learning a flurry of new details about the gunman and new information about the troubling security failure at that pencil we'll bring any rally plus one of the most anticipated announcements of the entire election season to sources telling cnn that donald trump will name his vice presidential pick in the next few hours let's get the latest now from cnn's kristen holmes. kristen, what are you hearing from sources? >> we long anticipated that this announcement was going to come today, the first day of the convention, but there was some hesitation whether or not that was going to change given what we saw on saturday, but we are told by sources that they do expect that announcement to come this afternoon within the next couple of hours. and when it comes to who is the potential pick, we he'll still
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are being told by senior advisors that they do not know, but we believe it is limited down to the three people we have been reporting on for the last several weeks, which is north dakota governor doug burgum said they're marco rubio of florida and senator jd vance of ohio. now i want to show you some video here. this was taken just moments ago. we see senator jd vance leaving his house heading to the airport where he will take a flight here to milwaukee. now, obviously, when you look at this, you might notice something interesting. jd vance is not just in her regular car. he is in what looks to be either an armored vehicle or he has his own motorcade. obviously, we are just speculating seeing right now, reading tea leaves about this, i will note that we are told that all three of those top contenders were given extra security after that shooting on saturday but nonetheless, obviously here this is his motorcade leaving anything that we glean on who that candidate will be boris, we will be back here sharing that with you yeah it, could wind up, meaning a
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lot in retrospect, if vance winds up being the nominee and kristen, what is trump saying about judge cannon's decision? boris, he is celebrating as is his campaign, he posted to truth social. i'm just gonna read part of it here. he says, as we move forward in uniting our nation after the horrific, horrific events on saturday, this dismissal of the lawless indictment in florida, it should be just the first step, followed by the dismissal of all of what he calls witch hunts. and he goes on to the name, the various cases against him. but let's talk about the larger reality here because there's a reason that they are celebrating. it is twofold. one is legal and what is political when you look at the legal side of this, they truly believe this is donald trump, his inner circle, and many of his legal advisors, that this was the strongest case against. and we have seen all of the evidence. there's actual recordings of donald trump saying that he knew he had classified documents and shouldn't be showing them to people, but was still going to do so anyway, they they were under the impression that this was going to be the strongest case
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brought so obviously, a celebration there that this is being dismissed, even if there is an appeal here, which we expect there to be the other is political political donald trump has long said that all of the legal cases against him were political. now, they believe this helps cement that case. now, just to be clear, donald trump is obvious police tried to leap to link these cases. the four cases brought against him to president joe biden, which there's absolutely no evidence of. but if you look at this ruling judge celine cannon says that it was unconstitutional to appoint a special prosecutor. that is something trump's team has been saying for quite some time. so now this gives them extra backing to use that argument for us yeah, and it could have implications for other special counsels, kristen holmes live outside the flight, serve arena here the fisa, 4:00 a.m. i should say, in milwaukee. >> thanks. let's get to cnn's katelyn polantz. now, killing, walk us through this ruling and this dismissal and what it means yeah. >> well, it means that the case
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against donald trump and his two co-defendants in florida for mishandling classified records, obstructing justice. that's over as of now. judge aileen cannon is closing that case dismissing it no more proceedings there. and the reason she says is because it's not constitutional for special counsel jack smith to have brought this case to investigate it, and to bring it against donald trump pursuant to trial. she says that because she says smith was a private citizen, the justice department brought in from outside side the government, and he is operating with very little oversight as special counsel, he was never senate confirmed. and thus, this is not a valid prosecutor in the way congress has set this up and that the justice department, the executive branch, should allow. she also has issue with the funding behind the special counsel's office. they've been using much of this it's very untested in a way where there has been law established. judge cannon is ruling on something other. judges at her level, the trial level have looked at
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across the country and have said, sure. special counsel cases can go forward, but it's very likely now this issue is going to be appealed. and justice clarence thomas on the supreme court even teed up this question of the constitutionali ty of the special counsel's office two weeks ago, he wrote in a concurrence on the presidential immunity decision related to trump in his other case, there are serious question so whether the attorney general has violated that structure by creating an office of the special counsel that has not been established by law. those questions must be answered before this prosecution can proceed. boris so kaitlan, what are the options for the department of justice now, appeal. >> they are very, very likely to appeal. we have not yet heard anything from the justice department yet. it's possible they say something. we don't know for sure if they'll appeal, but that is in there plane of possibility from now on board. >> katelyn polantz. thank you so much, brianna. i want to send it back to you. i know you have to legal experts with
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important perspectives on a decision that could impact other special counsel's not just this case against the former president yes. exactly. right. boris, i'm joined now by john e. jones, the third who was a former chief federal judge for the middle district of pennsylvania. he is now president of dickinson college, also with us is tim parlatore, who is an attorney who represented former president trump in the classified documents case. he left the team in may of last year for personal reasons. tim, obviously a win for donald trump. how do you see this victory? three it's interesting and i'm still going through the opinion myself but it does seem that she's tried to make a good reason reason, dependent of it. >> it's something that, you know, as kaitlan just mentioned, it hasn't really been tested. it is something that a lot of judges have loud at the trial level, but it's never really been tested at the higher level. and i think it's something that does make sense.
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oftentimes you have situations like this where the government will do something they'll take an existing regulations in those stretch it a little bit further and a little bit further. and judges will allow it and it's some point. it should be ruled upon by the higher courts either say conclusively. yes, this is permitted or know that it's not. and by creating this kind of split between the courts, that is what will bring it up to the higher court. >> and judge jones, that is the expectation as we just heard, kaitlan layout, that an appeal is likely here well, it's interesting, brianna, because what judge cannon did is she looked back at a case that's exactly 50-years-old. >> it's the united states versus nixon case and in that case, the supreme court appeared to put it to imprimatur on the special counsel and the appointment of a special counsel. and legions of federal judge judges since then have relied on that
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particular a decision by the supreme court to green light prosecutions by special counsel across the country. what judge cannon said that brianna is that that is dictat. in other words, in layman's terms, it's surplus, it wasn't precedential. no court has found that before as a tim knows and so it's kind of back to the drawing board. she said it wasn't adequately argued it doesn't mean a thing in terms of precedent and therefore, she proceeded to get into the marriage so the argument is a very long opinion. one other thing in the opinion that i find notable is that it took about 15 pages, less than 15 pages for judge cannon to who site to as kaitlan collins just said justice thomas's concurrence, i think it can be fairly argued that he created a little bit of a roadmap for her, at least in bolden her in terms of her final decision yet, and that's what looking at what he wrote at the time, a lot of folks it said earlier this month judge, i wonder. do
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you see doj perhaps opting to refile this case under the u.s. attorney for florida, how else could this look? >> well, they'd have to do that if they want to proceed with the prosecution or obviously win on appeal. and it's a mess now, brianna, because you've, got various other prosecutions, including the january 6 prosecution judge chutkan has that you could have a circuit split. this is going to go so the 11th circuit if it's appealed, they're various ways, you're right. the idea behind the special counsel was to create some modicum of independence particularly in the prosecution that could look political in its nature, but all bets are off at this point tim, the reference to what clarence thomas said in his concurring opinion because it was a point that he made alone. right. and i wonder ultimately what you think that might portend as this moves its way through the
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courts? >> well, i mean, i think it is certainly a signal that the justice is interested in hearing this issue. and the judges correct about what he's saying about the difference between dictat and holding. and so that is something justice thomas's statement is also addicted, something that wasn't argued by their side. it is something that, you know, courts can listen to and take guidance from. but one thing to remember is that from nixon until today, it's just kind of laid out. there was a whole different statute that was enacted and then and then sunset. it didn't so even though that it has been place for a very long period of time, we had different statutory scheme one thing in the judge made a great point that this could be brought back by the u.s. attorney, could be brought back by main justice. this case. when i was involved, it was investigated by the national security division when donald trump announced his candidacy, they appointed jack smith as the special counsel.
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so but from our perspective, that seemed to be window dressing for several months because the national security division kept doing everything was the same people same signature blocks. they were still sending out subpoenas, grand jury subpoenas signed the national security division. it was only when actually, i think cnn pushed them on. why are you not? using special counsel signature blocks that they all of a sudden got new email addresses and started to fold jack smith into the decision-making process here so, judge cannon did not dismiss with prejudice, so it certainly is something that they can find a way to go back and just kind of remove jack smith from the process and re-bring in a n4 in a more normal way. >> yeah, we'll have to see the shape that this takes, but very insightful to hear what you gentlemen have to sage, judge jones, tim parlatore. thank you to you both thank you brianna boris we want to turn now to new evidence in the attempted assassination of donald trump.
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>> i wouldn't his video showing the gunman at least one minute for he opened fire. watch this because we, have dangerous people, kremlin we have we have people that it happened you can clearly hear those witnesses alerting police officers at the rally. >> here is what witness shared with cnn they had no line of sight, and they even looked at us and said, where's he at we were pointing to you know, he's right there. they just they were too close to the building one officer, david trying to climb up on the building and he got all the way
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up and he just wanted to get up on top. and then he just kind of let go and fell to the ground. i don't know if the guy startled him or what exactly happened let's take you now, live at the scene with cnn's danny freeman, who's in butler, pennsylvania, also joining us. cnn senior national security analyst, juliette kayyem, danny, first to few, what more are we learning about what transpired? >> so boris, we're learning a lot more information about the shooter over the past couple of hours. the first thing i'll note is we're learning from john miller. he learned from law enforcement sources that the shooter, thomas matthew crooks purchase 50 rounds of ammunition at a local gun store, likely just hours before the shooting itself. so that may speak to part of the premeditation of this or perhaps lack thereof. the other thing that we're learning overnight, boris, is that the shooter here, thomas crooks was actually a member of the sportsman club and why that's important is because apparently
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in this sportsman club and again, we're confirmed this by an attorney for that particular club. there was a 200 yard rifle range at that club. and if you'll remember the distance roughly between where the shooter was and where former president donald trump was was just under that, maybe about 150 yards or so. but the other thing that i want to note, boris that we are learning just in the past few hours is listen, the fbi has said from moment one, really they're trying to figure out what the motivation might have been behind this attack. well, cnn's mark morales is reporting that one of the key answers that we were or i should say the fbi was looking towards hope we find out motive was the shooter's cell phone, cnn's mark morales reporting that the analysis of that cell phone is now about 70% done, but still lawn enforcement officials are no closer to finding out exactly what caused that shooter, thomas crooks, to go up on that roof behind me and opened fire at the former president boris julia, just given the facts that we have
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right now, it's obvious that this was a premeditated attack. i'm wondering what you make of the fact that just hours before the shooting, the gunman went out and bought 50 rounds of ammo. what does that tell you? >> so it tells me that this was less sophisticated than like, you know, sort of a paid assassin type type of scenario. i'm basically it appears right and not very good shot. i mean, he was an exceptional shooting. he had no military training to speak up. maybe he'd been in a club almost kills the former president of the united states and he does so in a way that just looking at the images is like sort of jv. he's like sort of walking around, people are noticing him. he then decides to get on a rooftop, probably because it's vulnerable. and then take his take his shots and so the fact that he bought them right before a speaks to that this may have been a very short period of time in which she was envisioning trying to kill the former president of
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the united states. and he and so i guess the point so remember that is the secret service, therefore does exist to stop this kind of sort of random behavior. this is what exactly what you want to stop is someone who thinks that they can just show up and try to kill the former president yeah you're learning new details about the actual building. >> the shooter was perched on and what security was like around it. tell us about that so. >> boris, we heard directly from the secret service today, a spokesperson telling our own whitney wild that secret service did not sweep the building over my shoulder where the gunman was perched, where he opened fire on the former president, the spokesperson for the secret service saying that there was supposed to be local law enforcement in charge of sweeping that particular building. and in remember boris, that's because that building was outside of the specific official perimeter where the trump campaign event was happening. but the secret service said they it did not
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know who was responsible for securing that building. now i will say we've been reaching out to a lot of the local law enforcement officials here on the ground to get more understanding after secret service put that information out there, i can tell you that the pennsylvania state police they said that they were not responsible for that particular area and they also doubled down then after i followed up saying that not only did they have about 40 troopers on scene making sure that parts of the area were secure, but they were saying that they were very much following the direction and of secret service and the secret service was in charge of this operation. so it's challenging boris at this particular moment to figure out exactly what happened because there frankly this seemed to be at this point, a lot of finger pointing in the aftermath of this assassination attempt but julian, i'm curious to get your thoughts on that. >> we're talking about a building that has rooftop access, only 150 yards away from the former president what do you make of this back-and-forth between the secret service and local law enforcement ultimately, it's
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the secret service that's in charge because they would have set the security perimeter, which seems shocking that they would have left the building outside the security perimeter. >> so in a normal instance, state and local law enforcement are always going to help the sea their service. they simply, they know the streets, they know the neighborhoods. so imagine if this was in an urban environment, you would need local police to close the streets. in this instance, someone from the secret service determined that the building only a couple of hundred yards away from the president with a clear line of sight, was going to be outside the security perimeter. that decision that decision alone is basically what began this cascade of really bad coincidences that led to saturday so the back-and-forth that you're hearing now is because it was outside the security zones, the secret service says, oh, these guys have at the state police the state police say it is still part of of course the secure, protected event and the
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secret service ought to have been in charge. i will say the tale as i keep saying it is this the secret service knew that there could be a sniper threat because they had anti snipers deployed to the rooftop in front of the president. if you are going to deploy anti sniper capabilities, you ought to look around. this has just basic security planning and determine whether a sniper might have a good shot from another building to me and i haven't been there, but to me just the mapping suggests they they essentially forgot about this one building. and then because it was vulnerable, the assassin is able to get in. it's not secured, is not sweep. no one's walking around it there's lots of other issues about communication and timing and pace. but this fundamental decision made probably weeks before last saturday, that that building would be outside of the security perimeter. is the
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main cause of everything that unfolded on saturday no question that we'll get immense scrutiny as this investigation is underway. juliette kayyem, danny freeman. thank you both so you may hear the music that just started behind me where former president donald trump takes the stage. here are the republican national convention and a couple of hours. it's going to be his first time since saturday's assassination attempt. we're going to talk to a local mayor next to combat veteran who is there? in the front row. when shots rang out, we're going to ask him what he wants to hear from the soon-to-be republican nominee for president we really don't want people to think of feeding food like ours. >> a spoiling their dogs good real food is civil it looks like food like it's what dogs are supposed to be eating. no living being should ever eat processed food for every single detail of their life. >> it's amazing to me how many
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assassination attempt in an interview with the new york post, he said, quote you're not supposed to be here. >> i'm supposed to be dead. our next guest was at that rally in the front row when shots rang out joining us. now, is mayor john david longo, mayor of slippery rock, pennsylvania, who was the speaker at that trump rally, or you're longer we're so grateful to have you here. and agreed to share your story with us. i imagine that it's been a very emotional time and i know that when you were there, you actually jumped on your wife when you realized that something had gone wrong. walk us yes and let me just start by saying as to every father, would your brother russ, to a lot so don't just want to be about much of what was going through her mind at that time, of course, is was shot for our loved ones in disbelief or
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something we're especially sorry and grieving hero in his own right being a hero firefight thoughts are also with still incident slippery or hearts go out to them families i'm wondering what what moment did rely exactly was happening to me was trying to assassinate it's difficult when i heard the first round go off i didn't want to believe that it was wrong year recognizes i'm sounds like it impact. second
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session after that's what it was shooting immediately. begin the scanners where exactly is coming from it was obvious to assault, it was coming from just i was sitting stage so if you were president, you would have been looking over your right shoulder? >> that front row we understood this didn't know intended target was wrongfully again, everybody just concern about each other's safety want that too 40 lost his life, but he lost his life right, that was being they're checking his loved ones and understand that that he was a hero in that moment as well were you able to
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see president trump? when he got up when the secret service agents need to decide to stand up and be addressed the crowd. my reasons this yes, i was looking at at president trump in his right profile so i watched this all unfold. i sought secret service pounds on top of it to protect them. i saw him rise from from the huddle and kind of wrangle his arms from them so he could show everyone that he was strong. he raised his fist and what i could only describe this triumphant resist it was a message to the world. i think it was important that he did that president trump did in that moment, was he briefed? and many thousands of us around him using that word he gave us a brief by offering leadership i do want to ask you, since you are receives and military, and you have experienced with combat what do you think of the
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security questions swirling around the incident, what would you hope to see out of i don't have any comment on the security situation other than what it is that i what i witnessed secret service inside the, venue where i was on the ground with who it fast concerned with the safety of everyone on this and ultimately dress the neutralize the threat this maniac a second the president attendees at the route that's what i have to say about it. >> officers and security for your jobs even longer. >> conversation there. you so appreciate you. not only sharing your story with us, but also detailing those moments still plenty more news to come on. news central, i had a political balancing act, how president biden is navigating his reelection campaign as the
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expected the focus would be on his age, his fitness, and all of these questions swirling about him. and we have spoken since saturday with some biden allies that are privately hoping i vividly wondering whether in the aftermath of what happened on saturday, the effect might be that these questions about the president's political future might actually come to a stop. idea being the democrats will actually seize this moment and see this moment as really urgently, the party needing to come together particularly as they are watching republicans really rallying around donald trump in a new way we know that it is early though, and obviously it's not even been 48 hours since the horrific events of saturday, so we're watching to see how democrats are watching the tone that comes out of the republican national convention. but asked for the president and just the country mean days, he is still headed to las vegas this afternoon after he sits down with nbc news, lester holt, but obviously brianna, i don't need to tell you that the backdrop
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businesses i'm stephanie elam in los angeles and this is cnn as republicans gather in milwaukee for the convention, it is really worth remembering how the party has changed since donald trump came down, that golden escalator back in 2015 and nothing reflects those changes more then the party's platform and cnn senior political data reporter harry enten is here to break that down for us. harry, let's start with two of the biggest issues for the traditional republican base, at least there's abortion in the sanctity of marriage. how have we seen those change in the platform
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language yeah. >> i mean, look, social issue mentioned in the platform language the way down from 2016, we will we look at it now, look how many mentions there are. just one, just one of each. my goodness, gracious. that is so untrue traditional of the republican party. and this might be in my mind something that the gop and donald trump have been concentrating on, which is trying to get rid of some of the language that is more divided trying to be a bigger tent party. and indeed, if you look at the polling, what you see is that when it comes to the issue of abortion, democrats and joe biden are trusted money that's more on it. republicans have already won the war, right? roe v. wade was overturned. so the fact is the republican party wants to drop these unpopular planks in their messaging and that is something that you're seeing reflected in the gop platform trump won in 2016 with a strong message on securing the border. >> what do we see from 20 he 16 to now yeah. >> if social issues are being
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mentioned less issues surrounding the border are definitely mentioned more and you can see that in border mentioned issues which of course were a prominent part of the gop platform back in 2016. but it's even more now, you look at a word like invasion, right? that was not mentioned at all back in 2016 now we're seeing that actually mentioned a number of times in the platform. and again, this is partially about donald trump shaping the platform, but it's also about understanding what's poverty color with the american public. we know that immigration is much higher up on the issues of most important problems in terms of what americans think. more than that, it's an issue on which done donald trump does very, very well. he leads joe biden overwhelmingly on this issue so the fact that you're dropping those social issues, the issues that joe biden's doing particularly well on and you're raising saying issues surrounding the border, which donald trump does well on there basically ying to craft a message that appeals to a wider segment of the american public not just with the republican base. and area of course some
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trump supporters see him as bigger than the party is the candidate always been a big part of the platform it wasn't back in 2016 but it is now mentions of donald trump for way up from where we were in 2016. >> now, that is partially because donald trump is more popular among the broader for electorate now than he was in 2016, but more than that, remember the gop convention 2016 was actually quite the visit, right? ted cruz came on the stage in the middle of that week, basically he said vote your conscience there was not this sort of coalescing around donald trump in the republican base, as there is now his support among republicans is considerably higher the one thing i will note is of course trump is a quasi-incumbent, right? and what we have seen traditionally is what incumbents do run, they get more mentioned in the platform, george w bush a lot of mentions back in 2004. so the fact this is as much more reflective of an incumbent running them, perhaps an open seat, which of course makes sense given that donald trump was president once before oren republicans are
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hoping that it will be once again, come november yeah, what a difference. >> a few years makes harry enten no, live for us from milwaukee. thank you so much. and i am brianna keilar in washington and cnn special coverage of the republican national convention continues with jake tapper and anderson cooper after a quick break ready to be in new york giant our teams still add in pieces, still have the draft with the agency think what let's have a conversation and here it's unlike anywhere else. au, solid season with the new york giants streaming exclusively on max, what are you say it's the only fully rains ties and charcuterie board nationwide. >> so you can send the perfect
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live coverage of republican imagine i'm jake tapper along with anderson cooper and anderson this convention is kicking off under truly extraordinary circumstances that it is in a break from tradition tom says he's announcing his running mate today that could happen very soon anticipation building at the convention. this is the first time in more than three decades that a major political party went in two, which convention without first revealing the name of the vice presidential nominee right now, delegates are preparing for one of their first and most important official acts, candy, donald trump for, third presidential nomination. jake, we've covered a lot of conventions non-life yes. >> that's absolutely correct. than it has been a turbulent few weeks in the presidential race, beginning with president biden's baffling debate performance. and then the fallout within his democratic party cnn is of course covering every twist and turn of this election. and this republican convention, we expect the traditional roll call of states
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to kick off in about an hour that will culminate donald trump's official presidential nomination. our anchors and correspondents are a key locations throughout the convention hall. as this historic events unfold, cnn's jeff felonies position right near the podium, where a lot of the action will happen, including the headline speeches. phil mattingly and kaitlan collins are on the convention floor. we're delegates are getting ready for the roll call. let's begin with kaitlan collins. kaitlan, what are you learning about trump's vice presidential selection process topic of conversation here on the floor play in being surrounded by delegates right now. >> i'm actually standing right in front of the florida delegation. and that is crucial because that of course, is the delegation. and during that roll call that you and once it gets underway state that puts donald trump over the line as he is becoming the third time the republican nominee for president in his horses. third republican convention. the last one was held at the white house. this is the second one that he has had a real won since 2016. and of course, one
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of the big questions that so many people still i have is who his running mate on that ticket is going to be jake. and as you know, donald trump likes to keep people guessing. as he did in 2016. and i've been talking to sources all morning long, all weekend long about this. and obviously, there's no doubt that what happened saturday night was really the focus of the last 24 hours or so good also donald trump himself, as a white focused on that pick is going to be i am told that as a few hours ago, donald trump was still reeling over what election was going to be, that means even those candidates who know that they are at the top of the list has still been left in the dark. the names that we've been talking about, obviously, ohio senator jd hey, vance, florida senator marco rubio, and north dakota governor doug burgum. those have really been the three finalists. that trump has been talking about. but i have learned jake donald, trump is very preoccupied with the idea that if he does pick senator marco rubio of florida, of course, someone who wants to challenge him for the
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republican nomination that's a concern that it could create residency issues. obviously, vice president and president are netbook being from the same state to be on that presidential ticket marco rubio would have to essentially resigned his senate seat donald trump has become quite concerned that caught up in the courts. he has a long fear. he does not think the legal system is fair to him. well, no one that reason i am told that marco rubio seems to have potentially falling out of contention. now, of course, it is donald trump, and that comes to the caveat, get nothing and his final until it's final, but that is what we have been hearing jake and donald trump himself may come here to announce his pick. it still remains to be seen. how we will do but it does show that there is still a lot of uncertainty in this race even as we are on day one of the republican convention, jake hear from the floor and milwaukee itself all right. kaitlan. thanks so much. we're going to check back with you. let's get more analysis from my panel. dana. it seems like every single thing that this convention is
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unprecedented margaret what by the way, if marco rubio were the nominee and we have no indication that he will be that would not be in unprecedented as you might remember, in 2000 with george w bush pick dick cheney we lived in texas. he just moved back to wyoming. >> cheney, big tech. >> right when dick cheney picked danny but but we're dating ourselves in any case this is going to be quite a night. i can't believe that they've held the secret that long when when we say that, usually we know who the nominee is by this point, it's usually because a reporter has figured it out. yes well probably happen soon these finalists that people who we believe are the finalists, the men who are the finalists are here in town in their hotel room yes, i was talking to a top staffer of one of them. >> i mean, to say that there are on pins and needles is an understatement. here's one thing that's not unprecedented is the business that is going to occur behind us, which is the nuts and bolts nuts and bolts rather of what a convention does, which is not
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only to adopt the rules, but to actually nominate their candidate for president. and we are going to see that tonight. this afternoon. i should say. and then they do have to actually formally nominate the person who's going to be on the ticket. so presumably in the next couple of hours, we will know who that will be. >> john. john king. you have you have broken in the past. who the running mate was? are you surprised that they've held this as well in this long? >> yes. in the sense that i think sometimes people have this overly locked in impression trump is temperamental, trump is indecisive. trump is this, trump is that around conventions? if you go back to his 2016 convention when he also had a big pick like this, they made a very disciplined choice at that convention, very lucas room, that's donald trump's room behind you. that is donald trump's room in 2016, there was still talk you, ted cruz or someone else tried to take it away and they picked mike pence. what about a week out and that sent a signal. we're going to middle america, former governor or member of
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the house, governor at the time, member of the house christian conservative than any opposition from the republican base went away like that this is interesting in that those three finalists, maybe he'll surprise us. traditionally, michael dukakis, my first one pick lloyd bentsen, right, massachusetts picked texas, but i'll bore was picked by bill clinton's. this trunk reminds me of this. he's picking somebody from maga, somebody who's with him deciding i'm in a position of strength. i don't need to address a weakness. will see and the political pros can answer this better than i can. if that plays out, trump's biggest weakness. if you're looking at how to put together republican coalition is suburban women? >> yeah. and as best we know, there are no women on his shortlist. one of them will speak here, nikki haley, someone who we know could help him, but his unconventional and how he does this although i would say in 2016, he listened to the political people will see what he does now. and chris wallace you've covered the reagan assassination in 1981. there is also this wild the card of the fact that president trump famously, the just survived an assassination attempt with an iconic pose
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afterwards. and we have no idea. it seems crude. even talk about the politics but we can't ignore them. we have no idea how that's going to play into the convention or the, or the campaigns. well, the one thing i would say about the residents house today he should attempt in 1981 is it change the public's view of him? he was very controversial figure, although a won by a landslide and it really some that took a bond between reagan and the american people because they saw it away that you don't normally see what politicians they saw the make of the man, the measure of the man, and the strength and the courage on the humor of ronald reagan in the weeks that path 29 days after he was shot outside the hilton hotel, he addressed a joint session of congress a proposed a tremendous like controversial plan spending cuts, tax cuts. it all sailed through and i think part of that that was the wind at his back, but it also changes the man. it changed ronald reagan and he famously told cardinal clock afterwards,
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i feel that whatever calm i have left, it for god, and i not to get overly sentimental about those the interviews that trump has done overnight, he was deeply affected as anybody would be going through a near death. thanks. all right the convention is starting. let's listen in this convention. welcome to order delegates an alternate delegates. ladies and gentlemen welcome to the 2024 republican national convention. before we begin the official business of this convention let us please take a moment of silence to reflect on the terrible events that took place in butler penalty

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