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at trump's rally and president biden sits down for a major interview. >> he talked about his age his faith in the secret service, and whether it was a mistake to call for a bullseye on trump alright, 4:00 a.m. here in milwaukee, wisconsin. it is 5:00 a.m. in washington, dc. a live look at the fiserv forum where everything he went down last night where the convention will continue to unfold this evening. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us a dramatic entrance and moment last night in that fiserv forum for donald trump as he arrived for the first night of the republican national convention. it was his first public appearance after a would-be assassin it's been nearly took his life my life

just not true because right. you're bandage he gave that pumped to the crowd and milwaukee as he formally became the republican presidential nominee for the third time in eight years, joining him in the moment his newly announced running mate, senator jd vance of ohio the 39-year-old, finance just 18 months into his first term as a us senator just sit on this one for a moment because i do think it is worth reflecting on the magnitude of the way that this felt in the hall last night a real celebration and coming together for a party that is very clearly donald trump's now and that wrapped into it, people who perhaps may have been still skeptical of former president donald trump because of what happened on saturday but the other big news, of course, was the selection of vance, who

previously was a sharp critic of donald trump's, let's listen to a little bit of that. >> i'm a never trump guy. i never liked him and i've been i've noticed this willingness from people who think a lot, like i do, that. look, we told you so to all these white working class voters, we told you. so we told you that trump was going to be terrible candidate now though of course, fans will be with trump at the top of the republican ticket as those delegates approved his nomination without objection or panel's here to discuss catherine lucey, white house reporter for the wall street journal, mychael schnell, congressional reporter for the hill. >> matt gorman, former adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign. we also have with us meghan hays, former message director, message planning director at the biden white house. well come to all of you, michael, i'm pretty sure you've been up overnight matt gorman you've got the facial hair that jd vance. now. you're looking at that old better why he got that beard look great it adds a lot. let me start with you in terms of what we saw last

night. because being in that hall, i will say i've covered a number of these political conventions. it was one of those moments that stands out as one that you are going to remember later for obvious reasons. and the president, former president was honestly, he was subdued. he he almost seemed i couldn't quite see close up enough, but he almost seemed emotional as he greeted the delegates in the hall i kept waiting to hear when trump would emerge, right. >> he didn't come as they normally do, introducing your vice presidential nominee, he let vance do that by himself. and so i kept waiting. what was the moment they were going to use to have trump emerged as first time. it was a great moment and you're right. he did seem a little bit more subdued and look, that's consistent what we've been talking about since is this going to be a little bit more of a different trump, but maybe even in the short term and we sit here through the convention mychael schnell thank you for your here with laura coates in that very chair how many hours

ago? >> not very many hours but we're very grateful to have you. can you talk a look? robot about this sort of spectrum of the people that we heard from last night. it did range from some of the hardest core maga people like charlie kirk for example. but it also included sean o'brien of the teamsters as clearly the republicans are trying to lean in to expanding the changing nature. i will say there is a political realignment that we're all living through yeah. i mean, i feel like vance is the encapsulation of that you showed the clip just before he was a self-proclaimed, never trumper now he's on the ticket with donald trump's way. i think it shows how the republican party has changed over the past eight years now but as you mentioned, trumping this the third time, he's the nominee and you're right. there were a wide array of republicans who spoke last night. i think that this all plays into the idea that they're trying to push unity at this convention especially in the wake of the shooting at saturday's rally. this has been a really important

message. i spoke to somebody i spoke to senator tommy tuberville yesterday before or sort of things kicked off. he said he had been at the convention center and in milwaukee for about 24 hours at that point, he said he felt like the rhetoric was being brought down. the temperature was being brought down at this convention in light of saturday's events, i think that that really got into the minds of a lot of folks and republicans right now, want to show a united front and that's about what we saw last night. and catherine lucey, one of the things that we've been talking a lot about is how or whether the incident on saturday has changed donald trump and jon karl at abc, i had an interview with him on the phone, asked if the former president of a close call with a bullet striking his right here changed him i don't like to think about that, but yes, trump said adding that the incident has an impact and it seems like you could see it on his face last night? yeah. >> it's only read so much from this moment, but he certainly he was subdued. he seemed emotional. his family seemed emotional and he played this

quiet role, right? he was taking it in and taking in this night for the whole the whole hall when he came in, i think as you said, when you were there it really was an electric moment and so i think we're going to see how this plays out through the week. we know republicans really want to emphasize a message of unity, bringing together these disparate factions and we have to see what this means for his speech. going forward also, write for sure. >> meghan hays. we have talked so much, of course in recent weeks about president biden's debate performance. also, of course, donald trump, the assassination attempts that we witnessed saturday in horrific fashion. but there is this bottom line reality about this election, about basically every election that the economy often dictates which way any race goes. and you did see the theme of the republican convention last night was make america wealthy again. but i think the

moment that stood out to me was one where they brought her name is sarah workman. she cast her as, hey, here we're going to hear from everyday americans, but she spoke very eloquently about her own personal story, received a standing ovation. i want to just play a little bit of that and talk about on the other side, watch the democrats open border policies have shattered my family with drugs so readily available, my husband fell victim to the drug epidemic it tore our family apart and now i raised my son alone. but i know there is hope that is what this election represents for all of us. you have been forgotten over the last four years this does seem to be something that i mean, she she put it very personal face on, something that i'm used to hearing from

politicians and much less personal way. >> when you see that, how do you think about the president's team? the president's team, and what they should be doing around what they're telling voters look, i think that when you get down to the conventions versus the policies that these are times where they get to highlight their stories and highlight the policies aren't working for them and working for them at the convention. but i mean the president biden and his team had a bipartisan border bill up and the congress didn't pass it on the direction of donald trump, where i understand where they're personalized. i also we can't lose sight of the reality here. and there aren't, these policies aren't you know, this is not the time to highlight where the democrats and the republicans are disagreeing at their convention. that they are highlighting what the democrats are doing wrong to bring people and they need independent voters. this woman is very touching obviously she's talking about her husband and losing her husband to drugs and adds very upsetting, obviously addiction touches the biden family very closely as we all know, but i just like we can't lose sight of reality that they did try to have a border bill. they did try to do things and

they are being stopped by maga extremists. so i just you know, it's a little what we expect didn't convention for being honest and the democrats will have the same stories that highlight and the republicans will counter all right, fair enough. >> okay. coming up next here, new details out of pennsylvania where a gunman tried to take donald trump's life plus beefing up secret service protection. robert f. kennedy jr. will now get his own detail and severe weather hits the midwest with hail, tornadoes, and high winds our mission here at cnn is that the news comes first that's the promise of the situation room. >> we work as hard as we can to get the facts. >> the situation room with wolf blitzer ninth at six on cnn

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their lives, who responded there? he why should a president the question is, should they have anticipated what happened or should they have done what they needed to do to prevent this from happening? that's a question. that's an open question. >> all right. president biden, weighing in on his own security detail just days after the attempted assassination of donald trump. now, trump's vice presidential pick ohio senator jd vance, demanding answers after the massive security failure i think there needs to be a full-scale investigation. we need to understand what happened because clearly mistakes were made. i look, the secret service ran up there. they put their bodies over and they reacted quickly that's not what worries me. what worries me is why was there a shooter 150 yards from the president united states, it doesn't make an ounce of sense cnn reporting this morning that the incident has pitted local law enforcement against the secret service, both arguing it was the other groups responsibility to secure the building where the gunman was locating

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take and what pressure you believe the agency's leader should come under for this i mean, i think they're under an incredible amount of pressure right now. i mean, the buck does stop with them. they are in charge of protecting. all of these folks i would say that like i said yesterday, we need to wait for an investigation and nobody should be pointing fingers at anyone. i would have i'm not sure that way would have gone out there and answered questions if i were in her position right now, i don't think there's enough answers to have an interview. i think that just creates more questions and answers in these types of situation. i mean, if it's an unfortunate situation but they need to do an investigation, they need a thorough investigation, and then they need to present that to folks and then answer the questions that the additional questions that people have where it's unfortunate, but these men and women are at the rnc protecting a number of protectees that are there. they're still on the road protecting the president and vice president and their families. they have an incredible job and i don't want to lose sight of the job that they are still doing every single day. did they have a massive security failure on saturday? absolutely. but do we need to find answers and figure

out what happened? yes. we also need to do that sure. i mean fans noted this and i've tried to note this repeatedly on the air as well. that of course we saw agents leap into action. no one is trying to question their heroics that were on display in that moment. but matt gorman, the broader issue is one where i was watching a little bit of the interview that the director cheatle did with abc and she almost seemed reluctant to say the buck stops with me. she did say that in the end but it clearly was putting her in an uncomfortable position. and that's dissonant. >> and remember, she took over after a series of scandals about five or six years ago in the secret service, there was a fence jumper peter repeated fence trump wins the white house. there's also an issue down in colombia with the conduct of some agents down there. so this isn't suddenly a pop-up thing that suddenly something is missing the secret service. and i'm not surprised to see law and local law enforcement and secret service going back out and there's an old saying that you put one

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who could help me in the best way you can help me govern, you can help me win. >> you could help me in some of these midwestern states like pennsylvania and michigan and so forth. >> all right, the panel is back. catherine lucey. this is of course, a remarkable transformation for jd vance because look, he in many ways you could argue that he is someone who was on the vanguard of the white working class shift to donald trump back in 2016, there were a number of voters in ohio, western pennsylvania, who voted for obama. and then they voted for trump, right? and his book, hillbilly elegy, a capture some of why this was, but he also has an ivy league pedigree and he was with many in the elite establishment in 2016, paul ryan, among them, the speaker of the house, arguing that donald trump was bad. he called him cultural heroin at one point. he even said in a private message that he might

be american marquez hitler. i mean, the rhetoric was very very, very anti trump. i mean, mitt romney told his biographer, mckay coppins for his book, quote, how can you go over the line so stark that and for what it's not like, you're going to be a famous and powerful because you become a united states senator. it's like really you sell yourself so cheap. talking about how vance sort of turned around and said instead that he thought donald trump was actually good for the country. now jd vance apparently did it for more than just a senate seat but it does help explain this partially this transformation they saw. i mean, what what do you make of how vance has handled this? because he has and turned around and just said, hey, i was wrong about trump and he's not alone, right? >> he's not the only republican who started out anti-trump and has made this evolution as trump has really taken over and change the entire party and you're seeing here at this convention a real culmination of that right? just how much he

has made the over the party. and he obviously he has he has shifted his rhetoric. he has embraced those views and he has made a lot of inroads with trump and trump's family. we know he's he's close to his sons and he's really seen as someone who to your point can take this message now to folks in really key states. i mean, it more and more, it seems like this race is going to be won or lost in michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. and he is a young, energetic messenger who can speak to white working class voters most age. >> and you know, we actually do have the sound-bite of vance talking about how he approached trump in 2016, he was asked about it on fox news last night. i think it's worth noting. fox news part of the rupert murdoch empire was part of the full-court press from corners the republican party to get the former president not to pick jd vance. but here's what van said on fox last night i don't hide from that. i was certainly skeptical of donald

trump in 2016, but president trump was a great president and he changed my mind, i bought into the media's lies sources, ai bought into this idea that somehow he was going to be so different a terrible threat to democracy. it was a joke matt gorman, 20 get you to weigh in on how he's handling this. >> yeah. i mean, as best as he possibly can look if you didn't criticize trump when he ran in 2015 and 2016, you're either probably a liar or were employed by him at the time? so there it just that widespread. but i think the catherine's point, the theory of the case, i think you're exactly right. if they wanted more help in the sunbelt, arizona, nevada, that's marco rubio, tim scott play maybe burgum. they focus in on those rust belt states. i would also expect to hear a lot about vance military background especially in his convention speech, you'd be the first marine ever be vp or president, and the only among the four presidential or vice presidential nominees. and i think more than anything else, what stuck out to me throughout cut his vice presidential search. he's extremely effective communicator. he's willing to go on cnn, nbc, a

lot of places where my party doesn't really want to go. and not only go on they're able to get the message out. what i think has really admirable. >> in fact, there's been some reporting and alex isenstadt over politico has an excellent at story, kind of walking through how donald trump got to this point where he picked him over. it stretches over many years. but one of the things that vance team decided to do was to go on to send him into places where the former president could see he him defending trump under what they view as hostile circumstances. i would point folks to want a good example of that the other week he was on meet the press, he was asked about complimentary quote, he gave during that same period about barak obama, how he said was an admirable man, father, and he answered the question, he took it directly dead on, but he also we'd into his message that he was trying to get through, talked about trump, and really ladies, both of them as being good fathers and good family men. >> it was extremely well done if you want a good example that communication skills look at that. >> so of course, we can talk about this from the perspective of, you know, having covered these folks. but mychael schnell sarah longwell, who's a

close friend of our show spends all of her time talking to voters, the swing voters, the people that went from trump to biden. and now we're trying to figure out where they're going to go in the next election cycle. and she talked to some of them about jd vance and they actually perceive this it's almost like the tag that you are a flip-flopper feels like an arcane it mitt romney's sort of lost his, all his whole political career on this label, it now feels quite, but it seems like for voters, right consistency is still well, it's important. let's listen to what some of them told sara i don't know much about him except i know he was very extremely anti-trump. >> and so it kind of like speaks to his, like lack of integrity and sincerity to not really i mean, maybe help explain why he came around and it will make sense, but i doubted. >> i don't have respect for people jumped off like that. they want to people that are anti-trump and then also in the roundup. but again, you look at all the sides and there's similar things going on with the senate, with a house, with bills, so on. so for that's

politics in washington michael i mean, i think the main question there will be, will those republican voters ditch trump and ditch jd vance because they find him to be disingenuous, or will they stick with him at the end of the day because they want republican conservative policies. >> i think there's also gets into sort of trump's decision here. he went with jd vance, someone who was basically a carbon copy politically in terms of physicians and policy, he didn't go with somebody like nikki haley who could have really united the party politically. remember, in some of those late state primaries, we still saw nikki haley pulling a large number of voters back in 20 back in 2016. for then candidate trump chose mike pence, knowing he needed to bulk up the evangelical vote, knowing he needed to strengthen things. there this time around it, credibility and his credibility party, this time around, trump chose jd vance. sure. he'll help and some of those key states with white voters, but its not something that trump really needs to ramp above he still has strong support there. i think that shows trump made a

play for a reason for having somebody who he is supportive of who can carry the maga agenda into the next generation. remember, age has been a huge part of this election. but if you wanted to worry about getting voters like that and other voters who may be skeptical of him for flip-flopping and force he would have brought someone in who wasn't an exact copy of him politically. it's it's certainly seems to show that donald trump is freed to do what he wants to do, pick the person that he likes because he isn't constrained in the way he was in 2016, meghan hays, i very briefly let me just bring you in on this because i know that there are jd vance is someone that democrats are relatively eager to run against all the way it will say the generational contrast is stark. one yeah, absolutely. >> i mean, this is you're absolutely right. trump picked him because it's the future of the party for him and its his views going forward. so it could be 12 years of these sort of maga, extreme views. so i do think that there's a lot to note there. i do think democrats are eager to run against him because he is, he does you know embody those extreme views and i don't think that's where these swing

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>> welcome back, president biden has been out doing interviews in the aftermath of the assassination attempt on donald trump. he sat down with nbc news yesterday and was asked about the tone of the campaign. >> what have have you taken a step back and done a little soul searching on things that you may have said that could incite people who are not balanced well i don't think how do you talk about the threat to democracy? >> which israel when the president says things like he says, to just not saying them, use a man, say somebody look i i have not engaged in that rhetoric now, my my opponent president biden, also emphasized in the interview, he would not be dropping out of the race. he will return to the campaign trail today in las vegas meghan hays, let me go to you here because look, i think

we should be clear here at the president, there was saying he had used this language in a fundraiser saying we should put trump in the bullseye. he was trying to say that as many in his party have been urging him to do to try to focus on former president trump. he acknowledged it was a mistake to use that kind of language, but he also seemed a little bit defensive there. i think it is worth noting as he tried to say later in the interview, donald trump mocked paul pelosi, for example, after he was attacked inside his own home, as well as gretchen whitmer the democratic governor of michigan, who was the victim of a thankfully foiled kidnapping plot. i think. it's fairly clear where kind of on-balance the rhetoric stands here. i think the challenge is that president biden seemed to be having difficulty making that case, which is what democrats are watching for as they try to weigh in our john king is reporting that while this conversation has moved into private in the wake of the assassination the attempt it is still going on about whether or

not he should remain at the top of the ticket yeah. >> i mean, i think that we've all used language that is now in hindsight probably not the best language to use. no one could have seen this coming and the unimaginable happened. and so i do think we all have to take a step back and think through what we're saying as we move forward. it's unfortunate, that he used that, but i do think that it was used in a time in a different time of different moment in time. and i also think that look, i think democrats need to start to focus on if they want to be donald trump or if they want to continue to fight in their own party. and i don't the president has made it abundantly clear he is not stepping down, so i'm not sure what else that leadership on the hill and other democrats want him to do. he has made it abundantly clear. he is not stepping down. so either we can turn and focus on donald trump and winning the election in november, are we can continue to fight in our own party. i just don't think that's the presence not stepping down. why are we continuing to fight with our own party? and i think that we just have to have sort of an internal look at ourselves and decide what we're gonna do.

>> matt gorman, the i take meghan's point. the president is doug dugin and at a certain point, democrats are doing damage to themselves. however, we're also seeing quite frankly the map change. i mean, we're talking about states like minnesota, virginia, new hampshire, places where the raised presidential race seems to have tightened in a way that we couldn't have expected. otherwise where are republicans on this in terms of what would they prefer the democrats do, i guess is the biden energy being the third, fourth thing we talked about today, how we can use has been packed the last 24 hours that we just have like not really thought about. but you're absolutely right. those states it's minnesota has been in the sights of republicans for such a long time, just tantalizingly out of reach is this year with biden possibly showing some weakness there that we can get it. you're absolutely right. i think you're right. you hit on the head. there is a lot defensiveness in this interview from biden, even when lester

holt fronted him about the debate performance. did he watch the debate? he went on a little tangent and tried throw it back on lester, kind of clumsily by talking about trump and his performance in his behavior. he still hasn't found kind of steadiness in these interviews yet for how much he's doing them in the last week or so. and you're right. again, this last 96 hours of has solidified at least temporarily, joe biden as leader of the democratic party. >> mychael schnell. i mean, what what is your latest reporting on? again, like i said, john king's reporting, it. he actually really focused in on the pollster, stanley greenberg, who is probably not a household name too many of our viewers, but is for anyone who works in politics, right? he was bill clinton's pollster. he is widely respected inside the democratic party and john king reported that he has been sending these memos near daily at two biden's inner circle to try to show them just how dramatic in greenberg's view that collapse has been. it has not been as dramatically reflected in the public polling ai, but i think it's worth noting that campaigns make decisions based it's on their

own numbers primarily, right? to meghan's point, president biden has been very clear from since the day after the debate that he has no intention of leaving the race. he's going to remain in the race. he has said it's a bad was a bad night, but people like nancy pelosi and other democratic lawmakers are just not taking that answer. that that answer they're not taking that. no. as an answer. no, he's not dropping out there, not accepting that at least at this juncture, i spoke to a house democrat last week before the assassination attempt to suggest it to me that they wanted biden to drop out of the race, but said, i don't want any movement to happen until after the republican convention. i want americans and voters to be focused on what's going on in milwaukee. i want them to see what base he described as an extreme maga republican agenda. they wanted the focus to be on trump and on republicans squarely to have voters understand what their platform is about and then be able to deal with what's going on with the democratic ticket afterwards. >> but of course, the one problem with that is that the thing that biden wants to do and his team wants to do is run down the clock okay the longer

this goes, the harder it is to make a change. the democratic national committee meetings that set up the rules and other procedures of their convention start in the coming days. and so the timeline just doesn't advantage people who are trying to make a change. >> well, it's the reality too, is that they may do some sort of virtual roll call yes. well, then would accelerate the exact exactly things things could move very quickly ahead of the convention. so the biden folks are just eat they're trying to stabilize and certainly the last several days have shifted the attention away from this drumbeat of calls for him to exit. you haven't really seen any new people coming out if those conversations have moved a little more privately, it's not to say it's gone away, but it certainly has quieted some of that conversation yeah. all right. thanks to catherine lucey, mychael schnell. matt gorman is going to stick around. meghan hays. my thanks to you as well, coming up next here. donald trump bandaged and triumphant, arriving at the

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first public appearance at the rnc see in the shadow, the aftermath of the assassination attempt against him. >> plus the secret service and local police at odds over who's to blame for the deadly shooting at trump's rally. and was it over the mistake to use president biden says it was a mistake to call for a bullseye on trump in his first primetime interview. >> since the assassination, attempt, then donald trump's classified documents case tossed out, but facing an appeal from the special counsel 5:00 a.m. here sure in milwaukee, wisconsin, we are actually sitting inside that building that you see