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first public appearance at the rnc see in the shadow, the aftermath of the assassination attempt against him. >> plus the secret service and local police at odds over who's to blame for the deadly shooting at trump's rally. and was it over the mistake to use president biden says it was a mistake to call for a bullseye on trump in his first primetime interview. >> since the assassination, attempt, then donald trump's classified documents case tossed out, but facing an appeal from the special counsel 5:00 a.m. here sure in milwaukee, wisconsin, we are actually sitting inside that building that you see
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east coast. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. we are joined this morning by some georgetown hoyas from the institute of politics to watch our show this morning. you may have seen a few more people here last night with laura coates live. but hey these students made it up early and we're grateful to have them. donald trump is now officially the republican nominee for the third consecutive time triumphant. the former president received a hero's welcome. it was quite a moment as he entered the arena in mawasi the last night my life lucky star three they can the crowd in the arena chanting,
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fight, fight, fight. the same words that the former president told the crowd in pennsylvania. in the moments after saturday's assassination attempt, that white bandage over trump's right ear. a constant reminder of just how close he came to death. trump appeared subdued, almost emotional at times as he joined his newly announced pick for vice president, the ohio senator, jd vance, on stage. speaker after speaker said but it was god who saved president trump from the bullet here with south carolina senator tim scott saturday the devil came to pennsylvania holding a rifle but an american lion got back up on his feet trump's opponent, president joe biden in a different situation with a different tone on monday in an interview with nbc news, is biden walked back comments he
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had made earlier this month when he told donors, quote, it's time to put trump in the bullseye and quote and you could see he was defensive as he discussed his place atop the democratic ticket benjamin september but if the opportunity came up to do on between now and then as there is a sense of wanting to get back on the horse i'm on a horse, where are you back i've done 22 major events, that thousands of people overwhelming crowds a lot to happen i'm on the horse on the horse joining me now, my panel, mike dubke, former trump white house communications director, my preston cnn senior political analyst. >> boehly, be former communications director for the dnc. matt gorman, former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign welcome to all of you. you are laughing please. who would like scott fall off the horse is what i wanted. i may fall at the lion.
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i'm not far off the line for i guess i didn't get the horse early mo i mean, like as a as the democrats sitting here, i mean, that moment khan or if you're in the hall last night when this happened, but it was a remarkable moment that really crystallized the difference in this race since this assassination attempt and the president's interview following it, only sort of serve to underscore that. yeah it was an emotional moment, i think for a lot of people in the hall saturday was still a very jarring moment for the nation. >> and i think this was sort of the first assembly of trump supporters after that moment where they could really sort of celebrate him and reflect on that moment. and so all of that felt right, felt appropriate. he came out looking as you put it, subdued, looking a little bit more serious and they keep saying that this is going to be the convention where they are
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going to preach unity i'm still waiting to hear that though. they keep saying they're going to do that, but i keep waiting to hear that because speaker after speaker south killing many of the people that you saw last night where people who aren't necessarily preaching unity, there's still sort of reverting back to the rhetoric that they use before the convention. and so i'll be very curious to see whether or not that tone is what president trump himself carries in his speech on thursday. >> apparently, we're going to discuss this later in the show, but ron johnson blames the teleprompter or his rhetoric mark preston, i mean, big picture here. it seemed like one of one of those particularly striking moments in conventions. i mean, the floor goes on for many, many hours. we are left with a few things that really stick out and trump's entry last night, it's going to be one of them. yeah. i mean, no question. i mean, he staged i mean, he's a great statement. he knows how to he understands stagecraft probably better than anyone. what's interesting about these?
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manchin's and we've been around for a few of them, a few of us here do you remember the president wouldn't come into town when come into town until maybe wednesday night. but definitely thursday. but trump sees this as an opportunity rarely to use every one of these nice to try to get his message to folks who just don't know him no, absolutely. i mean, you have four nights of basic free advertising given to you by all of the, all of the major networks. why not take advantage of it? and to your point about stagecraft i mean, from from the from butler, pennsylvania to last night. i mean, this is definitely a gentleman who understands stagecraft now, somebody, the one thing i do want to emphasize and the thing that really struck me was his demeanor was very different i think it was very different last night because of saturday i don't know exactly why, but there is a change so you can
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talk about unity ammo and all of that though, i think from a republican standpoint, there i mean, we really felt like we were reaching out, but the president's the way the president presented himself. president trump last night, i think was very different. i noticed a marked difference so did i mean, i feel like the way his face and this is, you know, he had a brush with death, and that changes a person sometimes absolutely. in march, right? this was the host of the hallmark of the 2016 convention every night or most nights trump at a pier and it wouldn't he wouldn't say anything, but he appeared in the hall, get a big ovation the first night in 2016, he did this very, very similar thing, different tone, the song back in 2016 was queens, we will rock you this time. very different song, very different message. >> yeah, for sure. one thing that was also different to that stuck out to me was the head of the teamsters, sean o'brien spoke on the stage and i
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actually i started my political career covering at labour politics, which let me tell you, is it really? good way to get an education? and the idea that i would see a labour leader on the, on the, on the floor of the republican national convention, basically in primetime, let's listen to a little bit what bryan said it's an honor to be the first teamster and 121 year history to address the republican national convention over the last 40 years the republican party has really pursued strong relationships well, they're organized labor. >> there are some in the party who stand an active opposition to labor unions. this to must change the teamsters are not interested if you have a de or an ai next to your name we want to know one thing. what are you doing to help american workers i mean, mark preston, this is a guy that almost got in a fight with markwayne mullin. >> i believe in a hearing in
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congress that accent there's so much here there's so much here in look, a lot of his membership for trump's. >> yeah. they're maga supporters, right. but was this speech about him last night specifically, was this about shawn or was this about the teamsters? because it really seemed to be about john last night and he seemed to try to goad people on. he tried to give a shout out to massachusetts. he seems to have an accent. i don't but i i don't really interesting by trump and happy if you notice, if you look at through line of the whole night, it was, you know, we reach out hispanics were reach out to african americans. we reach out to labor. they tried to have this through line through the whole night. yeah. at one rioters is now reporting that the teamsters are potentially not going to endorse in this election, which would be heard of, i mean really hasn't heard of. and in many ways, i think sean o'brien was trying to get to the front of the parade and calling calling himself the head of the parades was but he knows where his membership is going. right. and he needs to be able to lead them, so he's trying to kind of get in front of that. >> labor leaders are often quite frankly, politicians do.
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you're the democrat here. this is a trend. this is fundamental realignment. >> look, i mean, first of all, that the teamsters are the one union that has a history of flirting with republicans, right? going back to richard nixon, sure but i think it was great for him that he was there because it was an opportunity for him to get the teamsters message out there. he wasn't there endorsing donald trump. he hadn't national audience to get a teamster message out there. and i do think that, you know, he called out republicans as much as he applauded the invitation to be there and he did call out, even heard a bit in that book as long as you don't attack trump, i think you're fine, right. and i think that's right. you also feel as much love for him as it within the hall as you did for a lot of the other au ai, a lot of people had turned away from him and we're looking up at trump in the box as o'brien was. well. okay. but they're also looking at a man who just
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survived an assassination attempt as well. so i think some of the turning around wasn't anything to do with aubrian. it had everything to do with trump, but the bigger point and mark you made this, is that the republicans are nibbling away at a coalition that elected joe biden so with union members, with latinos, with blacks, if you can get the black vote down to 80%, there's no way, you know, 80% for biden 20% for trump. there's no way for biden. there's no path to victory. and when we look from state to state to state, that's important wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania. i mean, that's where there's union support and if we can nibble away at that and to your point on the teamsters at 40% of the teamsters vote for trump where's the path to victory wears that? blue wall. i also wanted to jd vance. does he help increase republicans lead trump's lead with white men i do wonder if he is going to make that appeal. that again
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certainly you know, business-oriented it's another gender gap, right? we talk a lot about republicans struggled with women, democrats, and white men it's the other side of that coin. >> but when you see people like marjorie taylor greene up, they're being very marjorie taylor greene, like when you see people like charlie, kirk, charlie kirk people like mark robinson from north carolina that is not those are the people that they highlighted on the first night of the convention those are not people that are going to help win over, that are going to help chip away at the democratic coalition. and so again, you can go out there and say we are united were preaching unity and we're reaching out across the aisle. but if these are the people that you you're putting forward on the first night to reflect the face of today's republican party. it's not, those aren't the people that are going to help you. well, i'm charlie kirk was in prime time and i think it's worth noting that other republicans, conservatives like erick erickson have called him out for intensive anti-semitic comments and actions in that i
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don't want to lose sight of that here. >> all right? still ahead here on cnn this morning, donald trump getting a big legal win as he returned to the top of the republican ticket. this i'm on a horse. who are you banned? >> president biden tried to leave no doubt about staying in the race and his most recent interview, plus, we'll talk about what to expect on the floor of the republican national convention here in milwaukee. these students from georgetown getting their first taste of what it's like to cover, to cover be at a national convention. thanks guys, cnn this morning is gonna be right back cnn is live from milwaukee as republicans unite behind their nominee his vp, and their planning to take back the white house, follow cnn for complete coverage that republican national convention coverage continues all week on cnn and streaming on max choice hotels is a family of brands were the hotel for any traveler you want to be like number one chef, dad, cook it up a free hot breakfast for the entire
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consequences house of the dragon streaming exclusively on max the secret service is responsible for the protection of the former president. the buck stops with you the buck stops with me. i am the director of the secret service. it was unacceptable and it's something that shouldn't happen again secret service director kimberly cheatle, responding to questions finally, following the attempted assassination of former president trump's cnn reporting this morning. but local law enforcement is at odds. with the secret service over the incident. agencies blaming one another for failing to secure the building where the gunman was located. the source also telling cnn that a local sniper team was stationed inside the building where the gunman was located. now, trump's pick for vice president, the ohio senator jd vance, calling for a review of the massive security failure i think there needs to be a full-scale investigation. >> we need to understand what
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happened because clearly mistakes were made. i mean, look, the secret service ran up there. they put their bodies over and they reacted quickly. that's not what worries me. what worries me is why was there a shooter 150 yards from the president united states, it doesn't make an ounce of sense sciutto also said yesterday, the secret service will cooperate with an independent review ordered by biden and congressional oversight actions plus politico now reporting on a joint intelligence bulletin that was put out by the fbi and the dhs warning of possible retaliatory attacks mark preston, that interview the u.s. >> secret service. and again, jd vance was actually right there. i've tried to make a point of saying this. the agents that swarmed president trump are heroes clearly, there are so many good men and women who put their lives on the line every day. but the top leadership pier mean she seemed almost reluctant to say that the buck stops with her. she has not attended the press conferences. they have been multiple opportunities and now they're pointing the fingers at local police, not in new york city or some other big place, but in a small town.
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>> and how bizarre is that? there were police officers at a counting sniper team that was inside that building while this guy client and up and how crazy was it that people were yelling to police and saying there is a guy up there with a gun and, you know, we see this on video and then we almost see him you know, killed on live television this is situation in book. i think these guys can all you guys who all worked at the white house or or in levels of government, there is a real shortage of qualified police officers there's a shortage of qualified us capitol police officers of the united states secret service agents these folks are working incredible hours, but that wasn't well. >> and they also we should note were incredibly stretched thin because they were focused here, right? alright. so many resources at the convention, there's the democratic national convention coming up as well. and at the end of the day, the secret services are relatively small. law enforcement organization considering the scope of their mission mo i
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also want to kind of expand this a little bit to talk about some of the language that we are using color collectively, president biden was asked about republicans have criticized him for saying he's going to put trump in the bullseye during a fundraiser and he was asked by lester holt to respond about that. lets lets watch what the president had to say yesterday. >> it was a mistake to use. i didn't i didn't say crosshairs in the bull's-eye focus on him focus on what he's doing focus on one as far as policies, focus on the number of lies he told the debate focused. i mean, there's there's a whole range of things we did acknowledge it was a mistake, but he's also kind of trying to explain it and i think one of the challenges here that democrats are grappling with is that what the president showed in the debate? >> and perhaps there as well, is that he struggles to articulate some of the things that democrats would like him too, which is to immediately we pivot and point out that president, former president trump ridiculed paul pelosi
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after he was attacked. same with gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan after the a attempted kidnapping plot against her, was foiled, right? there are things in places where the president could easily say, look, i made a mistake. this is there's all these instances of rhetoric coming i'm from other people. he sort of got there in the interview, but it really seemed to underscore all of the challenges that he is facing. >> well, look, he was right to say it was a mistake he and i do think the rhetoric needs to be toned down across the board. remember, gabby giffords when she was when she was shot? decade ago or so. >> i covered the funeral for the person that was killed in that attack. yeah democrats pointed out that republican fundraising had talked about her being in the crosshairs. >> so the rhetoric needs to be toned down across the board. and this is sort of what i was alluding to about some of the speakers at the convention yesterday, a lot of those people did ridicule paul pelosi ally those people, did ridicule
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or are actively talking about political violence. someone like mark robinson from north carolina said that there are times when it's okay to use political violence recently, paraphrasing and so i hope that the assassination attempt on president trump is a wake-up call to people in both parties that a cavalier attitude right now towards political rhetoric is really bad. we are at a point in our politics where we are completely polarized, where people just are overly amped up. and so rhetoric that we used to use when mark and i had less gray hair today doesn't it takes things a little too far and i hope this is a wake-up call for people in both parties. right? we're in a very different political moment and i think it also underscores the fact that we have this intelligence bulletin this morning saying, hey, there might be retaliatory attacks, underscores why this is more important than ever all right, coming up next, we're going to
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you've weathered the storm on this issue of whether she should be on the ticket or not 14 million people voted for me to be the nominee in the democratic party okay i'm assuming the public calls for president biden to bow out of the 2024 presidential race have quieted in recent days. >> of course, overtaken by news of the assassination attempt against donald trump. >> but private efforts to nudge him out continue, according to reporting from cnn's john king with several democratic lawmakers allegedly urging biden advisers to consider how staying in race could damage the president's legacy. something that biden said last week is not relevant to his decision-making this for my legacy i'm in this to complete the job i started one democratic congressman who has so far held back on calling on joe biden to step aside is ohio congressman greg landsman, but he's been thinking about it.
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here's what he told me last week i'm getting closer and closer to appreciating that. that as much as i respect joe biden and what he's done that what would clooney said? >> yes? yesterday was really powerful on that he saved democracy in 2020. he's got to do it again in 2024. i want to go back home and check in with folks maybe one last time. however, it's becoming increasingly likely that that this is, this may be just too high of a hill for him to climb. tell you what, come back monday after you. i've talked to people back home alright and, joining me now is congressman greg landsman, who to his credit, made good on his word to show back up and tell us what what he actually thinks. so congressman, you went home, you talk to people
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you've seen the events of the last week are you ready to tell president biden that you think he should step aside well, know, the first and foremost that what we all witnessed on saturday was this an attempted assassination on president former president trump's life and it's a is not okay. >> none of us should be okay about it. and that overtook, as you can imagine, the conversations that i was having at home, i spent most of sunday with constituents talking through what it means and, you know, overwhelmingly, i heard folks say we really do need to dial it back who should be leading with their convictions and, and fight for what they
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believe him. but to do it with strength and kindness and a thoughtfulness that we don't always see and that's what we're expecting. the president. and i think she's shown that the same thing with mr. trump. and he has said, look, you know, his his speech is going to be about unity, the frustrating part of yesterday was that those of us in southwest ohio know mr. vance that's not who he is. he's not a unity pick in and and mr. trump had many options. so it was unfortunate that at a time when we all need to come together and and be as thoughtful and careful in our rhetoric not our convictions, but our rhetoric that somebody like mr. vance who is known for
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turning up the temperature that's what he does. that that was unfortunate sir. >> i mean what was your sense of how president biden handled the interview he did yesterday with lester holt. he did say it was a mistake to use the term bull's-eye when he was talking about donald trump trump obviously, he did use that before this happened context matters but he also didn't necessarily i think one of the private criticisms democrats have had and certainly some public they have been skeptical of his ability to really prosecute the case. against donald trump. and there certainly are plenty of examples of the former president turning up violent rhetoric the way that he has talked about buying other violent, a political attacks, including paul pelosi. did the president's interview give you more confidence that he is the right person to be at the top of the ticket. or not i was
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glad that the president said that that language was a mistake. >> i mean, that's character that's taking responsibility and saying i'm going to do better and i am hoping will see the same from mr. trump this is really important. i mean, we have to be able to have these really tough conversations and they are tough conversations so doing it in a way that is responsible and my job in addition to serving the 700,000 people here in southwest ohio is to try to model that, which is to say yes, we have a big conversation about democracy and the need to pass the john lewis voting rights bill to protect voters, to protect our elections, we have to restore freedom. we got to build an economy around people that i
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represent not, not billionaires. and to do it in a way that says look, we're in this together. there are folks that disagree, but we're going to make our case and we're going to do it again with conviction, but also with kindness. and and so the president saying, hey, i should have said that says a lot i will say my concerns about the president's ability to make this case against donald trump. i've expressed those concerns until leadership and that's where it is you know, they they will make the decision or he will make the decision hopefully with their input but now, you know, at least for this week all eyes are on former president trump and we're were genuinely glad he's okay. that was terrifying and as somebody who's from southwest ohio who grew up at around the same time and probably five miles from jd
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vance were both from butler county it's an issue that he chose somebody who is divisive and uses incendiary language that is a problem. and i think most americans are going to say that's not what we want right now. >> all right. congressman greg landsman very much. appreciate your perspective. very interesting that i did not know you and jd vance were from the same county so we'll keep that in mind going forward. thank you so much for your time. i really appreciate it. coming up next here, a bandage trump appearing at the rnc. we're going to have more on what trump pulled us, former white house, his former white house doctor about what happened the day of the shooting, plus trumps new right-hand man. we are analyzing think the decision to pick jd vance as his running mate could have done better they knew you got
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the top of his ear off as it passed through jackson says that he changed trump's bandage before the rnc and that the former president shouldn't need any further treatment. senator bob menendez, wife's federal corruption trial has been delayed indefinitely. her trial has been postponed multiple times due to her ongoing treatment for breast cancer jury deliberations will resume in senator bob menendez's federal corruption trial today the special counsel's office plans to appeal yesterday's ruling by a federal judge he's dismissing donald trump's classified documents, case district judge, aileen cannon cited with trump's legal team that the appointment of special counsel, jack smith violated the constitution fact that this is way at the bottom of our news roundup tells you just how much news we are. in fact grappling with today. and on that note, let's turn back to this fans is an ivy league educated attorney that makes sense. trump got a vp and a lawyer for the price of one
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after months of vp speculation. >> it is official donald trump and jd vance will top the 2024 republican party ticket not long ago. the first term senator yale educated lawyer and bestselling author there was a self-described, never trump guy i'm a never trump guy. i never liked him i never liked him. >> but now as trump's running mate, vance has changed his tune dramatically and his attorney, his past criticism of trump are trying to turn it into a selling point to try to convince others, welcome others into the maga movement i don't hide from that. i was certainly skeptical of donald trump in 2016, but president trump was a great president and he changed my mind. i think he changed the minds of a lot of americans. it's actually she important to be able again, to admit that you're wrong you can make a good pick case to the american people, people who may have been skeptical of the president back in 2016 mark preston you can see there why jd vance grew a beard. those au was like how he looks like a friendly 15
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looks like he's like 60 still only 39 how do you look at i mean, he's one of the few i will say people who has taking this dead on, right? i mean, i don't i can't tell you the number of republicans in the halls of congress that i had put a microphone in front of and said, you said this about trump. now you're not doing this and they either run away or don't want to answer the question or whatever he is saying. look, yeah, i did that. here's why i changed it clearly, trump buys it, which i'm still kind of surprised by it to be perfectly candid but our americans going to buy it look, if you're donald trump fan, you're going to buy it and you already have bought it. >> if you're an anti trumper, then you're not going to buy it. it's just those little nibble on the edges that we've been talking about over the over the past hour or so about is there going to be voters in michigan and pennsylvania? danya, wisconsin where we sit right now. but even as the map could expand for republicans doesn't go to georgia, north carolina. i just look, i think
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jd jd vance handled its best as he could matt gorman, what is your sense of what he is going to bring? >> to the ticket if anything? because again, we do want to underscore like it's about the guy at the top of the ticket. this doesn't always totally matter but in a generational shift like this, trump 78-years-old certainly were having we had the conversation on kamala harris. jd vance is one of the least experienced nominee, vice presidential nominees in history. here's into his first senate term what's, what do you make of all of that in many ways is to trouble legacy pick, he's ensuring that at the very least they'll be somewhat attentively carry on the torch after these four years have done, i think also, they're doubling down the rust belt states. they view them as increasingly important now, more so than the sun belt states, which i think they feel more confident. he's a tremendous community indicator and again, expect to hear a lot about his military service on wednesday night's speech, he would be the first marine ever be vp or president, and the only one of the four nominees
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for veep, you're president, be of that marquee race. what voters are going to thank sarah longwell, who of republicans against trump, she's friend of the show. she's shown a lot with us because she spends all of her time talking to voters, especially voters who voted for obama for, excuse me, for trump in 2016 and then for biden in 2020, trying to figure out what they're going to do now. they sent us some clips of what some of those voters had to say right after the vans pick, let's listen i don't know much about him except i know he was very extremely anti-trump and so it kind of like speaks to his like lack of integrity and sincerity to not really i mean, maybe i'll explain why he came around and it will make sense, but i doubted i don't have respect for people jumped off like that. they want to people that are anti-trump and then all sudden around it. but again, you look at all the sides and there's similar things going on with the senate, with a house, with bills so if that's politics
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and washington so mike, that flip-flop label used to be kind of like the deadly one in politics, but it may or may not matter. >> sorry, go ahead. no, no. i mean, it took down john kerry, but the i mean, you can't have it both ways. we can have people that get new information and then change their minds to be terrible but also it's terrible when people don't change their mind. so, you know, look, converts, converts, or sometimes the best apostles. and i think that's what you're going to see with the vice presidential pick here it is. he has explained it away quite, quite well. the one thing he also blamed the media for which is why nod that plays to a republican base. so all of that is good, but you got to take the man at his word. and i think if he is going to mark's point, he's going to bring some energy. he is going to he can articulate a lot of the the policies that this campaign and this second trump
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administration will be advocating for so from that perspective, it's he, he, he brings a lot to the table mitt romney, senator mitt romney, who i don't believe is here. i need to triple check that with his team. matt knows that he is not here. yeah of course, that was actually the first convention i covered was mitt romney's republican convention in 2012. and here we are he is, he's not here at all. i mean, it's stunning. he's told his biographer, mckay coppins quote, i don't know that i can disrespect someone more than jd vance and quote, and he's explained it this way and he was talking about dances switch from someone who is willing to criticize me. romney had thought highly advanced. he had read vance his book, hillbilly elegy. he invited him out to rami. does this summit out in park city? vance had come out there jake tapper for likes to note also the pence was once a cnn commentator in the wake of his book becoming all of this but rami, rami says this of his
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decision to then go the other way, quote, how can you go over a line so stark that and for what like that and for what it's not like you're going to be famous and powerful because you become a united states senator. it's like really you sell yourself so cheap. these comments were made when vance was running for senate. now, obviously he's going to be a lot more famous. so maybe it worked from that perspective i mean, look the whole convert thing, i'm actually kind of with mike. >> i think political parties always want to say, i've one people over, right? i'm bringing people over who weren't with me before and i think party should celebrate that more often than not having said that having said that, there's a difference between being converted and bending the knee, right? saying that you know, i for what appears to be a naked power grab, but i don't think that's a campaign against jd vance. i think what you're going to see democrats do, what when donald trump's shortlist sort of became public, most democrats i know, we're hoping for this pick.
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they were hoping jd vance was going to be the guy because he reinforces all of the things they are running against donald trump on. he is very anti-choice he is in the minds of many democrats or foe populous. he, he speaks a populist talk, but actually supports big corporations and all the economic policies that are sort of anti populous and he said that he would have done what mike pence didn't do on january 6, thanks that he would have helped overturn the election. democrats are like all right. like i'm okay with this guy being on that. yeah. that that january 6 note, of course, that the very top line of the biden campaign statement that came out within moments of this of this peck being announced all right. >> we do want to talk about one moment that we saw on the floor of the convention yesterday, because of course, after saturday's assassination attempt on former president trump many of the speeches at
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day one of this convention. were rewritten to try to make sure that they didn't include inflammatory rhetoric in the wake of that. that is until wisconsin and since senator ron johnson took the stage and said this today's democrat agenda. their policies are clear and present danger to america, to our institutions our values and our people it clear and present danger. he said, now asked about this johnson claimed that he planned on reading a different speech, but that the teleprompter loaded an older version now, who does that remind you of you stay classy san diego i'm on burgundy who tried to question mark on a teleprompter for the last time, anything you put on that proper, burgundy will read now,
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they're before the grace of god go. >> i have to say but this is quite an excuse. i can even read off a teleprompter that's the easiest thing to do kind of. >> well, i suppose, but i mean, why don't know about that now it's already well, yeah, i it is what it is. >> you said this is one like this excuse. i mean there are a few things i've worked for a lot of candidates who have had to read off prompters and you actually practice reading off a prompter i mean, every one of these speakers is going backstage before they go out there to practice getting on a improper its nerve wracking for people having said that. >> i know plenty of political leaders, real political leaders, who will see mistakes in prompters. and they will figure it out. they, they know not to read the bad thing. that's on the prompter and they'll add live until the right thing gets up there. they'll figure it out. you don't just if that was the wrong speech, he would have known it. bill clinton did it.
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they load the role. he can and he adlibbed for minutes for crimes because he was worried that it was not very good at that. i can think about, like, how many of joe biden doing that where it's like pause, like last name, it's like so it's joe biden has done to the teleprompter, you don't want to have a teleprompter war here. au no, you're right. he teleprompters of skill. i don't engage absolutely not everyone every day and i know. i'm not criticizing anyone or anything, hate the excuse. right like the coming out and saying i read the wrong thing that was loaded into the teleprompter like that's not projecting strength. >> and let's talk seriously for a second, because the reason we're noting this, right? the reason we were talking about this excuse at all is because of the sensitivity around what happened and what everyone is listening for and mike dubke, i think what we saw from the president himself last night in the hall sort of look on his face, the demeanor that he had
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suggests that he is very much in that space, actually, i think the question for all of us who have covered donald trump for a long time this is an older guy who has been very set in his ways. we have gotten to know who he is. the degree of change that there is there, and the extent to which he is going to stay in the place that this assassination attempt in broad, i would actually make the argument that his his change can be for saturday after the after the debate, he was uncharacteristically quiet while the biden campaign devolved. >> see, but you didn't see i mean, the look that was on his face. no, i agree. but that is how i mentioned the same thing at the top of the hour. he physically looks different post saturday, i guess the point i'm trying to make is this has been a much more disciplined candidate that we saw in 2016 or 2020 yeah. and, you know, noted there if there was some

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