but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house! there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. party party and every spirit i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon. >> and this is cnn and welcome

back. >> you're watching cnn's special live coverage. virtue of the republican national convention in milwaukee, wisconsin on this the third night that focuses on dawn from running mate senator jd vance, who will soon introduce himself to the american people. excerpts from center vinci speech were just released. phil mattingly has said that he joins us now phil, what? >> we expect phil, if you can hear me, what should we spec sorry. from center of the first excerpts of jd vance's speech, a very high-stakes moment of very high-stakes speech. >> and it is a speech that as we've been reporting, is very heavy on biography, biography. many of us know au, but certainly will be introduced to the country tonight about his upbringing, about his time in the marines, his law school degree from yale it's relationship with his wife, but i think what's most interesting, at least the experts i've seen so far is how he threads together some of the connective cultural, and historical moments of his life

with where joe biden was president during that time, he was in fourth grade when nafta was supported by president biden and he was in high school when pnc are the china trade agreement was reached and biden i'm supported it's he was in college when president biden supported the invasion of iraq, really threading together biden's political career with his youth and what happened in those moments, making very clear that those moments which have really been kind of the driving accelerating force of what brought donald trump to the height of american politics are central to jd vance of speech also referenced of course, the assassination attempt over the weekend. what he saw behind the scenes and what it meant to him as he accepted the selection to be vice president. and as a lengthy speech, very heavy on biography and very heavy on attacks on the current president au mattingly, thanks very much, will be anticipating that he's going to be introduced by by his wife this is going to be an important moment for jd vance, who if you've read his book is known to a lot of people.

>> but i would actually argue that kind of connoisseurs of help philly allergy are actually the kind of elite class of people. a lot of democrats read hillbilly elegy in the years after hillary clinton lost in 2016 election. so for a lot of regular people, this is going to be largely new to them. the other part about the excerpts that we've seen that i thought was really fascinating. jd vance plans to use joe biden's 50 years in politics, 50 years in government against him, tying him at all these different junctures to what he says are policies that hurt the forgotten american since the people that he grew up around in rural appalachia. so it's not going to be just the kind of red-meat that we're used to hearing about joe biden and his political field policies. but it's using the biography to make that connection between the policies. his own life experience, and this platform

he's giving us a view, i think of why perhaps they view this as the maga future because he's articulating maga policies. but in a way that that is more digestible to the average person doesn't come with donald trump's baggage i can tell you republican senators will be watching to see part of what he says about foreign policy. >> because obviously italy, he is someone who has said they don't want to send any more aid to ukraine. he has been against that let's listen into certain william tech road, 99-year-old world war ii that's right awarded to bronze stars and a silver star thank you. very much my name is bill, her role let me for all

wisconsin night i'm a proud husband of 76 years no. my wife, rosemary i'm i'm a father of 11 children six boroughs my boys au or family across five generations and a brawl were war two veterans i'm 90 90, 98-years-old no, i'm the greatest generation

that's an honor considering america is the greatest nation in the history of the world i will never forget and witnessed the horror of the war camps in the battle of the walsh my friends and i want to stop the nazis last major portion in of western front if you want just later, hitler was hitler was dead not i'm not used word evaded and we gave thanks to

all almighty god us from evil but not many of us i still miss a lot of my friends on that beach and we're there were many of us left. there aren't many of those lifted today. but we're those who above us who are here that america is still worth fighting for it, hurts my

heart to see what are current president vice president have done to the country. i love so well day whom who meletus in f stand again? we pushed around and china terrorist run wild in the middle east and david let our own southern border get overrun america. >> people say people is knight. >> america is an idea but i believe america is much more than dad america america is our home you know and i was quite

in europe nike back home i guess the ground thank god. that i'm back home. now, mike country and where i come from when somebody goes for me, for my whole dig in your boots? the

ground and never looked back that's he had to save the free world and years ago and president trump back and commander in chief i would go back to re-enlist today i storm will whatever beach you want, my country one nice to meet

you. god bless you bless your home. >> andy, united states of america coming up. donald trump junior is going to be the next few don't from juniors going to be the next speaker out, obviously, a rising figure in repulsive party politics kaitlan collins, joining us from the floor do you make of what we've heard tonight? >> well, donald trump junior obviously is going to come out and he is going to, pump out the person that he helps make the running mate to his father, donald trump. he was one of the

most vociferous voices urging his dad to pick jd he vance as his running mate. he went to him late last night, last week they were at a dinner and i was told donald trump, you're kind of stormed into was like, you need to pick jd vance because he knows that his father as often influenced by the last person who speaks with and he really made this case. elon musk and others were also making the case that this wasn't just an effort by donald trump and you're alone, but i do think when people saw the schedule about a week ago that donald trump junior was in introducing whoever the vp candidate was. people were thinking very strongly that it was going to be likely jd vance now to what he thought his dads shouldn't pick i will just say what jd vance is speech to look for as there's a lot of republican senators who don't like where he is on foreign policy. senator lindsey graham has broken with him a lot. he urged of former president trump to pick either marco rubio or doug burgum. it'll be interesting it seems what he says about foreign policy in this speech because it will give us a roadmap potentially,

what that could look like if they are elected. >> i think the core of the speech is going to just on vance's narrative and obviously, there sort of waving a flag about how they intend to use him at the end of the speech, he says, i promise you never forget the forgotten communities of michigan, wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania man au of our nation. >> so he, they are laying out that they are going to sit jd vance it's to the wall with the a jackhammer and see what he can say. >> i talked some of the folks of the campaign this morning about this and i anticipate campaigning said in western pennsylvania good evening america. before i begin my remarks, i'm going to do something a little

uncharacteristic a trump is going to give up the microphone doesn't happen often you may never see it again but i got a call on monday morning from a young lady who said, dad i want to speak at the rnc i want to speak at the rnc because i want america to know what my grandpa is actually like so for the first time ever on a stage, first time ever giving a speech i want to bring out my eldest daughter and the eldest granddaughter of the president of the united states, your favorite president. >> chi madison trump hi

everyone. my name is kai manchin trump i am the granddaughter of donald trump i'm speaking today to share this in my grandpa, that people don't often see to me. he's just a normal grandpa he gets us candy and soda when our parents are and looking he always wants to know oh, how we're doing in school when i made the high honorable, he printed it out. so his friends, how proud he was on me he, calls me during the middle of the school day how my golf game is going and tells me all about his but then i had to remind

them that i'm in school and i have to call him back later well we play golf together. if i'm on his team, will try to get inside of my head know. >> and he's always surprised that i don't let him get to me but i have to remind him i'm a trump two even when he's going through all these court cases, he always asked me how i'm doing he always encouraged me to push myself to be the most successful person i can be obviously, he sets the bar pretty high, but who knows, maybe one day i'll catch him on saturday. i was shocked when i heard that he has been shot

and i just wanted to know if he was okay. >> it was. heartbreaking that someone would do that to another person a lot of people i pull my grandpa through hell and he's still standing graham, both. you are such an inspiration and i love you the media mix. my grandpa seem like a different person, but i know him for who he is he's very caring and loving. he really wants the best for this country and he will fight every single day to make america great again thank you very much lot of

proud moments this week for my family thank you again, guys, really appreciate that. >> that's not easy. that's the first time. i mean, this is well, we call a large crowd verse speech. so incredible work, cai now back to business thank, you sir tonight we gather here in milwaukee at one of the most crucial moments in american history. just days ago, something that once seemed

unimaginable became a terrifying reality my father came under literal fire as an incredible patriotic rally turned into a tragedy on a field in butler, pennsylvania. a brave firefighters died. others were injured. and as those bullets rained down, we came millimeters away from one of the darkest moments in our nation's history. but we did lose in american hero that day. we wish that he were with us tonight but his memory will live on forever in the hearts of his family his community, and the nation that he loved. so i'd like to take just a moment tonight to express our gratitude. >> for the life and service of

american hero corey comperator e let's say you can truly know how you'll respond in a moment of danger until you're actually confronted with her so what was my father's instinct as his life was on the line? >> not to cower, not to surrender, but to show for all the world to see that the next american president has the heart of a lion that the next

american printing isn't it has the courage to put the american people first once again and in that moment my father didn't just show his character. >> he showed america's character when he stood up with blood on his face and the flag at his back the world saw a spirit that could never be broken and that is the true spirit of america. >> america knows what it's like to be down we know what it's like to be confused and to be afraid long before the attempt on my father's life, every american i've met was filled with fear and anxiety they were

afraid our country was being torn apart. they were anxious about the massive and chaotic invasion of illegal aliens across our border they were deeply concerned about partisan lawfare education, indoctrination, and attacks on freedom of speech most terrifying of all, they saw that our leaders didn't care or worse that they'd joyfully aided and abetted the erosion of our rights and belies oh, yeah, the lies we won't ever forget the lies. from left wing politicians, from their allies in the media. when you hear them in a row, you fully understand the extent they have gone to divide this great nation they lied about russia collusion. they lied about hunter's laptop they lied

about joe biden's fitness for office they lied about the border being secure they lied about inflation being transitory they lied about how they would safely withdraw from afghanistan they lied about biden being a quote, moderate and they told one non-stop lie after another about my father but they could only run away from reality for so long. all hell has broken loose in america, and it's impossible to hide anymore remember, build back better instead, we got broke bumbling, biden nothing has built nothing is back and nothing is better. bridges are

collapsing, our credibility is crumbling. and our money is worth less and less every single day. it was just. one giant bait and switch. and normal americans are the ones left holding the bag housing costs gasoline prices, grocery bills, just keep going up wave after wave of illegal aliens, deadly drugs keep pouring across our border meanwhile, pro crime district attorneys have turned our cities into giant crime zones. they've turned criminals into victims prosecutors, into criminal defense attorneys, and police into public enemies left-wing activists are pretending to be educators, teaching our kids that there are 57 genders but

they can't even define what a woman is on one hand. >> they think three speech protects their right to expose your children too explicit drag shows on the other hand, they want to put you in jail for making a meme it's like the entire world has been turned upside down does any of this sound like a country that's going in the right direction and honestly who is actually running the country anyway? it's obviously not joe biden who are they asking us to elect seriously? >> who's running things does anyone really know is it jill? >> he's a hunter barack obama

maybe it's the ghost of corn whoever is running the show the only thing that they are effective ad is persecuting my father they twisted contorted and corrupted the criminal code to turn bookkeeping errors and defend believes they concocted new legal theories out of thin air they imposed gag orders of my father because the last thing a defendant should be able to do is defend himself, right they punish him for barely speaking the truth they say they hate vladimir putin, but it sure seems like they've spent a lot of time copying his playbook in this country, we don't criminalize political differences. >> we debate them we vote on them, but we don't make you

choose between picking a party or picking a jail cell there was a time when the democrats really wanted what was best for america even if they had a different way of getting there it was the party of franklin roosevelt, john f. kennedy, martin luther king junior you may have disagreed with that party, but at least you could respect it. but this new extreme democrat party they want us to somehow believed that the only way forward is going backwards we're hiring decisions are based solely on race where justice is only for those with the right opinions where streets are a luxury only for the elite where economic opportunity exists, only when you know, the right people right now. the america we all grew up with the america that

we love feels like an old photograph where you sit down with your children and tell them what life used to be like you look back at that america and remember a country that was confident and proud, america, that knew who it was and what it stood for and it could all feel like a distant memory somewhere along the way, we stumbled somewhere along the way, we lost our ourselves but we can't live on nostalgia. yes, america was great, but our greatest days are yet to come because no matter how far off that old photo may feel, it's not the end of our story we're

like that man who stood on that platform and felt the bullet pierced his flesh just days ago in pennsylvania he may have moved to the ground, but he stood back up and when he did my father raised his fist into the air. he looked out at the crowd. and what he said and we will fight we will find we will

fight with our voices we will fight with ira ideas. and a november 5 we will fight with our votes i've always been proud of him but i've never been prouder of my father. then i was in that moment that's when the world found out that there is tough and then there's trump tough and the good news is america is trump

tough in 1912, more than a century ago another legendary republican president came right here till milwaukee at a political rally less than one mile from where we stand tonight teddy roosevelt was struck by a would-be assassins bullet but he didn't quit either. he finished his speech and he kept fighting my friends. >> i don't believe in coincidences, but i do believe in god's plan today teddy

roosevelt's man in the arena has a name and it's donald j. trump remember my father didn't have to run for reelection this year he does indeed the money, the fame, the power, frankly, he doesn't need the witch hunts, the phony investigations are the political prosecutions either but he knew he had to run if there was any chance at saving america he's not doing it for himself. >> he's doing it for everyone here tonight, for everyone watching at home no matter who you are, you can be a part of

this movement to make america great again, look at me and my friend jd vance a kid from appalachia and a kid from trump tower in manhattan we grew up worlds apart yet now, were both fighting side-by-side to save the country. >> we love and by the way jd vance is going to make one hell of a vice president for those of you who have to dow politics were, have never even voted. i want you to know if you're

looking for a better life and more prosperous future. a safer, more wholesome and patriotic place to call home. there's room for you in this party and in this movement in fact, you're the ones who matter most of all my father has always said that the people he gets along with best are the people who really work for auliving it's because of his background as a builder in construction in construction, it doesn't matter how smart your architect is. if you don't have the best guys laying the bricks people with grip, people who get their hands dirty that's a big problem with washington, dc

most of the bureaucrats who rule over us have never built anything in their lives it's time to build something real something tangible something that will last and leave this country better off for our children that's my father's mission this november, we have a choice it's a choice between one team that wants to build this country up and another that wants to tear this country down it's a choice between people who are a proud of america and people who are ashamed of america and ultimately, it's a choice between america last and america first so if, you love

this country from the bottom of your heart, if you want to bring back common sense if you want to save the american dream if you want to stand up and fight for the future of our nation, you must reelect my father, donald j. trump together. we will make america great once again thank. you thank you. wisconsin and there. you have a doubling from juniors speaking shortly we'll.

>> be seeing a video about the vice president nominee, jd vance, his wife, is going to be introducing the hail their remarks obviously live van. >> what did you make of the granddaughter came out and opened up our hearts in the sun just hit us upside the head with a baseball bat so i'm not quite sure what which way they're going. but that young lady was she did her job au been warming them up, humanizing him making people feel that they could actually liked this guy. the sun came out it was the opposite effect. very effective for the base. frightening for democrats and by the way, crime is going down. unemployment, going down at production is going up, stock market going up the sub he said wasn't true. but you can see this tension within the trump trump coalition. how do you give that raw meat to the base? scare the crap out democrats, but also bring people in. and that's what you saw being balanced in that

people who are planning to do democratic convention are taking notes because they got to go to rewrite. these guys are putting on a good show. they get a fan of vance, right of trump junior appeals to the base, but it's a show of competence. everybody, they're pointing out yep, there says they're competent. some of the people that are putting up there are quite controversial. some of the people that they're saying things that you could cut little ads about our use on social media, but they know that they're confident this is a very professional trump team putting this program together as to what the other thing i'll say is that we're about to hear from jd vance how different his party is. this is make america strong night. no one has said stand efraim, not one speaker is dead. day when ukraine, jd vance is going to criticize joe biden for supporting nafta. i covered bill clinton when he got an african for the congress. democrats didn't like it. unions did like if bill clinton got that path people support of the republican party yesterday's republican party. >> i wonder jd vance. we saw the excerpts of this speech. he sort of making a lot of the same case, a lot of the same case. but it's making it a little bit more elegantly wrapped in his own story identifying with other people

the fact as this one because of grievance speed and some of the grievance was the trump family reasons. >> you know, the president, how he's been persecuted and embracing but in tactics and so on that may play in this room, but the country is a lot bigger than this room. >> i'm not sure that that plays day. >> most of these things are how many veterans and we all lie in anyone here, remember anything this was incredibly memorable from the gold-star families to tie trump to the world war ii this was a completely well staying in nearby night at is hard for me to imagine a democratic convention being able to generate one of the integral will say about her i'm not even arguing about the stage, perhaps. >> i've said throughout this week that i think they've done a very good job on. >> i'm just raising a point about this. one. particular space because there are elements of that speech that i think will remind people what makes them uncomfortable about trump i said. i kind of agree

with axe on this a little bit, right? so high trump did what sarah sanders did last night? yes. >> yes, it's often the sharp trump edges yeah. humanize donald trump, mate donald trump and likeable if you look at a pickup, suburban montgomery county suburbs, delaware county, bucks county voters, you would tie trump what sarah sanders, what that message out there, donald trump junior the weird yet we have those culture, we have those votes. yet more time. >> sara, you have been trying to actually kind of sidestep the culture war for the last three days. they didn't sidestep it with donald trump junior. he is the ultimate base of that for the maga movement right now. that is it's the role that plays and that is actually the stuff that i'm not sure works for trump in the areas where he's the most watched this united states senator or our next vice president what here he is born

into poverty his family torn apart by drug addiction no money they'll prospects no future jd joined the marine corps used the gi bill to attend college then went to yale and earned a law on degree and shared his heartbreaking story and a best-selling book only in america is this story possible. >> but today, for many families the american dream is now gone and this is the team tough enough to bring it back jd vance understands that working families have become the forgotten families under biden wages are going down while prices skyrocket forcing the majority of americans to live paycheck, to paycheck working families will have jd vance fighting for them. seniors. jd

will have your backs too. >> no more deciding between putting food on your table and paying for the prescriptions you need. >> as a husband and father, jd knows the importance of fighting being for a parent's right to protect their children. and you can count on this marine to stand up for our soldiers who put their lives on the line for their country every day jd vance, his story is one of perseverance of duty, of commitment to what's right now american story and it's just getting started ladies and gentlemen, please welcome. >> usha vance good evening good

evening when i was asked to introduce my husband, jd vance to all of you i was at a loss what can i say that hasn't already been said before after all, the man was already the subject of ron howard movie jd has shared much of his life through his own eloquent words. in his book, hillbilly elegy during his senate campaign. >> and now as a sitting united states senator it occurred to me that there was only one thing to do. to explain from the heart why i love and admire jd and stand here beside him

today, and why he will make a great vice president of the united states i met jd in law school when he was fresh out of ohio state which she attended with the support of the gi bill we were friends first because i mean, who wouldn't want to be friends with jd. he was then as now the most interesting person i knew a working class guy who had overcome childhood traumas that i could barely fit them to end up at yale law school a tough marine who had served in iraq, but whose idea of a good time was playing with puppies and watching the movie babe the most determined person i knew with one overriding ambition to become a husband. and a father and to build the kind of

tight-knit family that he had longed for as a child. my background is very different from jds i grew up in san diego in a middle-class community to loving parents, both immigrants from india and a wonderful sister that jd and, i could meet at all, let alone fall in love and marry is a testament to this great country it is also a testament to jd and it tells you something about who he is when jd met me he approached our differences with curiosity and enthusiasm. he wanted to know everything about me where i came from what my life had been like although

he's a meat and potatoes kind of guy, he adapted to my vegetarian diet and learn to cook food for my mother indian food before i knew it he'd become an integral part of my family, a person i could not man could not imagine living without the jd i knew then is the same jd uc today. except for that beard and as goals in this new role are the same that he has pursued for our family to keep people safe to create opportunities to build a better life and to solve problems with an open mind it's safe to say that neither jd nor i expected to find ourselves in this position but it's hard to imagine a more powerful example of the american dream a boy from middletown, ohio raised by

his grandmother through tough times chosen to help lead our country through some of its greatest challenges i am grateful to all of you for the trust you've placed in him and in our family and would that it is my great privilege to introduce my husband. and the next vice president of the united states jd vance i don't

united states that's rebuild thank you there's things to be rebuilding thank you. >> thank you. please wow. wow

yeah. first of all lucky guy isn't she lovely amazing greetings milwaukee my fellow americans and my fellow republicans, my name is jd vance from the great state of ohio tonight yeah. oh, wait, i owe you guys. we got it were to chill with the ohio love. >> we got to win michigan to

hear so my friends tonight is the night of hope a celebration of what america wants was and with god's grace, what it will soon be again? and it is a reminder of the sacred duty we have to preserve the american experiment to choose a new path for our children and grandchildren but as we meet tonight, we cannot forget that this evening could have been so much different. instead of a day of celebration, this could have been a day of heartache and morning for the last eight years, president trump has given everything he has to fight for the people of our country he didn't need

politics but the country needed him now prior to running for president, he was one of the most successful businessmen in the world. he had everything anyone could ever want in life. and yet, instead of choosing the easy path he chose to endure abuse, slander, and persecution. and he did it because he loves this country what all americans to go and watch the video of a would-be assassin coming a quarter of an inch from taking his life consider the lies they told you about donald trump, and then look at that photo of him defiant fist in the air when donald trump rose to his feet and that pennsylvania field, all all of america stood with

him and what did he call us to do for our country to fight to fight for america even in his most perilous moment, we were on his mind his instinct was for us, for our country to call us to something higher, to something greater, to once again be citizens who asked what our country needs of us now consider what they said. they said he was a tyrant they said he must be stopped at all costs but how did he respond? he called for national unity for national calm literally right? and assassin nearly took

his life he remember the victims of the terrible attack, especially the brave corey comperatore, who gave his life to protect his family god bless him and then president trump flew to milwaukee and got back to work now that's the man i've gotten to know personally. >> over the last few years he has tough and he is, but he cares about people. he can stand defiant against an assassin. one moment and call for national healing the next he is a beloved father and grandfather in of course, a once in a once-in-a-generation business leader he's the man who is feared by america's

adversaries but two nights ago and i'll sara moment said, good night too, is two boys told him he loved them and made sure to give each of them a kiss on the cheek and i will say don and eric squirmed the same way my four-year-old does when his daddy tries to get them, a kiss on the cheek. sorry, guys. he has all those things, but tonight, we celebrate. he is our once and future president of the united states of america. >> now i want to respond to his call for unity myself. we have a big tent in this party on everything from national security to economic policy but

my message to you, my fellow republicans, is we love this country and we are united to win right now, i think our disagreements actually make a stronger that's what i've learned in my time the united states senate were sometimes i persuaded my colleagues and sometimes they persuade me. >> and my message to my fellow americans, those watching from across the country is shouldn't we be governed by a party that is unafraid to debate it? diaz and come to the best solution that's the republican party of the next four years united in our love for this country and committed to free speech and open exchange of ideas and so

tonight, mr. chairman i stand here humbled and i'm overwhelmed with gratitude to say i officially accept your nomination to be vice president of the united states of america. >> no never in my wildest imagination, could i have believed that i'd be standing here tonight i grew up in middletown, ohio a small town where people spoke their minds,

built with their hands and loved there god, their family, their community, and their country with their whole hearts but it was also a place that had been cast aside and forgotten by america's ruling class in washington when i was in the fourth grade a career politician by the name of joe biden, supported nafta a bad trade deal that sent countless good jobs to mexico when i was a sophomore in high school, that same career politician named joe biden gave china a sweetheart trade deal that destroyed even more good american middle-class manufacturing jobs when i was a senior in high school, that same joe biden supported the disastrous invasion of iraq. and at each step of the way, in small towns like mine and ohio, or next door and pennsylvania, or michigan and states all across our country, jobs were sent overseas and our children

were sent to war and i agree and somehow a real estate developer from new york city by the name of donald j. trump was right on all of these issues while biden was wrong president trump knew even then that we needed leaders who would put america first now thanks to

these these policies that biden and other out-of-touch politicians in washington gabe us our country was flooded with cheaper chinese goods with cheap foreign labor. and in the decades to come, deadly, chinese fentanyl joe biden screwed up and my community paid the price now i was lucky despite the closing factories in the growing addiction in towns like mine in my life, i had a guardian angel by my side. she was an old woman who could barely walk, but she was tough as nails i called her mammal. the name we hillbillies gave to our grandmothers ma'am, all raised me as her own excuse me, ma'am. all raised me as my mother struggled with addiction mammal, was in so many ways, a woman of contradictions. she loved the lord ladies and gentlemen. she was a woman, a very deep christian faith but,

she also loved the f-word i'm not kidding. she could make a sailor blush i see you once told me when she found out that i was spending too much time with a local kid who was known for dealing drugs then if i ever hung out with that kid, again, she would run them over with their car that's true. >> she said jd no one will ever find out about it >> now thanks to that mammal, things worked out for me after

911, i did with thousands of other young men my age did. and that time of soaring patriotism and love of country. i enlisted in the united states marines simplified of my fellow marines i loved the marines after four years and went to the ohio state university i'm sorry, michigan. i had to get that in there come on, come on. >> we've had enough political violence. let's now after ohio state, i went to yale law school where i met my beautiful wife. and then i started businesses to create jobs in

the kind of places that i grew up in. >> now my work taught me that there is still so much talent and grid in the american heartland. >> there really is. >> but for these places to thrive, my friends, we need a leader who fights for the people who built this country we need a leader who's not in the pocket of big business, but answers to the working man union and non-union alike a leader who won't sell out to multinational corporations but will stand up for american companies and american industry a leader who rejects joe biden and kamala harris, his green news scam and fights to bring back our great american

factories. >> we need president donald j. trump some people tell me i've lived the american dream and of course their right, and i'm so grateful for it. >> but the american dream that always counted most was not starting a business or becoming a senator, or even being here with you find people though it's pretty awesome my most important american dream was becoming a good husband and a good dad of being able to give i wanted to give my kids the things that i didn't have when i was growing up. and that's the accomplishment that i'm proud of. stuff that tonight. i'm joined by my beautiful wife, usha, an incredible lawyer in a better mom. and our three beautiful kids, un who

seven. the vague who's four, and mirabel who's two. now they're back at the hotel and kids, if you're watching daddy loves you very much, but get your butts and ben it's 10:00 but my friends things did not work out well for a lot of kids. i grew up with every now and then i will get a call from a relative back home. who asked did you know so and so and i'll remember a face from years ago and then all here, they died of an overdose as always, america's ruling class wrote the checks communities like mine paid the price for decades, that divide between the few with their power and comfort in washington and the rest of us only widened from iraq to afghanistan from the financial crisis to the great recession, from open borders to stagnating wages. the people who govern this country have failed and failed again that is

of course, until a guy named donald j. trump came along president trump represents america's last best hope to restore what if lost, may never be found again a country we're working class boy born far from the halls of power can stand on this stage as the next vice president of the united states of america but my fellow americans here in this stage and watch it at home. >> this moment is not about me. it's about all of us and it's

about who we're fighting for it's about the auto worker in michigan wondering why out-of-touch politicians are destroying. their jobs it's about the factory worker and wisconsin who makes things with their hands in his proud of american craftsmanship it's about the energy worker in pennsylvania and ohio who doesn't understand why joe biden is willing to buy energy from tin-pot dictators across the world when he could buy it from his own citizens, right here in our own country ou

guys are great ground. wow it's about our movement is about single moms like mine he's struggled with money and addiction, but never gave up. >> and i'm proud to say that tonight my mom is here ten years clean and sober. >> i love you, mom

any you know, mom. >> i was thinking it'll be ten years officially in january of

2025, if president trump's okay with it, let's have the celebration in the white house and our movement, ladies and gentlemen, it's about grandparents all across this country who are living on social security and raising grandchildren. they didn't expect to raise and while we're on the topic of grandparents, let me tell you another mammals story and why mammal died shortly before i left for iraq in 2005. and when we went through the things we found 19 loaded handguns. >> they were now i the thing is

that they were stashed all over her house under her bed in her closet, in the silverware drawer and we wondered what was going on and it occurred to us that towards the end of her life mammal couldn't get around so well and so this frail old woman made sure that no matter where she was, she was within arm's length of whatever she needed to protect her family. >> that's what we fight for. that's american spirit. >> now, joe biden has been a

politician in washington for longer than i've been alive 39-years-old cobble harris is not much further behind for half-a-century. >> he's been the champion of every major policy initiatives to make america weaker and poor and in four short years, donald trump reversed decades of betrayals inflicted by joe biden and the rest of the corrupt washington insiders he created the greatest economy in history for workers really was amazing. there's, there's this chart that shows worker wages and they stagnated for pretty much my entire life until president donald j. trump came along. >> workers wages went through the roof and just imagine what

he's going to do when we give him four more years months ago i heard some young family member observe that their parents generation, the baby boomers, could afford to buy a home when they first entered the workforce but i don't know this person observed if i'll ever be able to afford a home. the absurd cost of housing is the result of so many failures. and it reveals so much about what's broken in washington i can tell you exactly how it happened. >> wall street barons crashed the economy and american builders went out of business

as tradesmen scrambled for jobs, houses stopped being built the lack of good jobs, of course, led to stagnant wages and then the democrats flooded this country with millions of illegal aliens so citizens had to compete with people who shouldn't even be here for precious housing. >> joe biden's inflation crisis. my friends is really an affordability crisis. and many of the people that i grew up with can't afford to pay more for groceries, more for gas more for rent. and that's exactly what joe biden's economy has given them so

prices soared, dreams were shattered. and china and the cartels sent vuitton's fentanyl across the border, adding addiction to the heart ache but ladies and gentlemen, that is not the end of our story we've heard about villains and their victims. i've talked a lot about that, but let me tell you about the future. president trump's vision is so simple and yet so powerful. we're done, ladies and gentlemen, catering to wall street will commit to the working man we're done importing foreign labor or we're going to fight for american citizens and they're good jobs and they're good wages we're done by an energy from countries that hate us.

we're going to get it right here from american workers and pennsylvania and ohio. and across the country we're done sacrificing supply chains to unlimited global trade. and we're going to stamp more and more products with that beautiful label made in the us a we're going to build a factories again, put people to work making real products for american families, made with the hands of american workers. together we will protect the wages of american workers and stop the chinese communist party from building their middle-class on the backs of

american citizens together, we will make sure our allies share in the burden of securing world peace, no more free rides for nations that betray the generosity of the american taxpayer together, we will send our kids to war only when we must, but as president trump showed with the elimination of isis and so much more when we put it we're going to punch hard together. we will put the citizens of america first, whatever the color of their

skin, we will in short, make america great. again again one of the things that you hear people say sometimes is that america is an idea and to be clear america was indeed founded on brilliant ideas like the rule of law and religious liberty, things written into the fabric of our constitution in our nation but america is not just an idea. >> it is a group of people with a shared history and a common future. it is in short, a nation now what as part of that tradition, of course that we welcome newcomers but when we allow newcomers into our american family, we allow them on our terms that's the way we

preserve the continuity of this project from 200 years past to hopefully 250 years in the future and let me illustrate this with a story. if i may. of course, married to the daughter of south asian immigrants to this country incredible people people who genuinely have enriched this country in so many ways. and of course, i'm biased because i loved my wife and her family, but it's true now, when i proposed to my wife, we were in law school and i said, honey i come with $120,000 worth of law school debt and a cemetery plot on a mountain side and eastern kentucky and i guess standing

here tonight, it's just got a weirder and weirder honey that but that's what she was getting. now that cemetery plot in eastern kentucky is near my family's ancestral home. and like a lot of people, we came from the mountains of appalachia into the factories of ohio, pennsylvania yeah michigan and wisconsin now, that's kentucky coal country, one of the ten now, it's one of the ten poorest counties in the entire united states of america they are very hardworking people and they're very good people. they're the kind of people who would give you the shirt off their back, even if they can't afford enough to eat and our media calls them privileged and looks down on them but they love this country, not only because it's a good idea, but because in

their bones they know that this is their home. and it will be their children's home and they would die fighting to protect it that is the source of america's greatness. as united states senator, i get to represent millions of people when the great state of ohio was similar stories. and it is the great honor of my life. now in that cemetery, there are people who were born around the time of the civil war and if, as i hope, my wife and i are eventually laid to rest there and our kids follow us. there will be seven generations just in that small mountain cemetery plot in eastern kentucky. seven generations of people who have fought for this country, who've built this country who have made things in this country, and who would fight and die to protect this country if they were asked to now that's not

just an idea. my friends, that's not just a set of principle, even though the the ideas and the principles are great. that is a homeland, that is our homeland people will not fight for abstractions, but they will fight for their home. and if this movement of hours is going to succeed, if this country is going to thrive, our leaders have to remember that america is a nation and its citizens deserve leaders who put its interests boris first now, we won't agree on every issue, of course, not even in this room we may disagree from time to time about how best to

reinvigorate american industry and renew american family. that's fine. in fact, it's more than fine. it's good. but never forget that the reason why this united republican party exists, why we do this why we care about those great ideas. and great history is that we want this nation to thrive for centuries to come now eventually in that, that mountain cemetery my children will lay me to rest and when they do, i would like them to know that thanks to the work of this republican party, that united states of america and as strong and as proud and as great as ever. >> that is who we serve my friends that is who we fight

for. >> and the only thing that we need to do right now, the most important thing that we can do for those people for that american nation that we all love is to reelect donald j. trump president of united states mr. president, i will never take for granted the trust you've put in me and what an honor it is to help achieve the extraordinary vision that you have for this country no, i pledge to every american, no matter your party, i will give you everything i have to serve you and to make this country a place where every dream you have for yourself your family, and your country will be possible once

again and i, promise you one more thing to the people of middletown, ohio and all the forgotten communities in michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and ohio and every corner of our nation. i promise you this. i will be a vice president who never forgets where he came from and every single day for the next four years when i walked into that white house to help president trump, i will be doing it for you for your

family, for your future and for this great country. thank you. god bless all of you, and god bless our great country. >> senator jd vance of ohio 39 39-years-old in the senate for about a year-and-a-half half introducing himself to the american people and accepting his party's nomination. areas with his wife, usha, and attorney in the mother of their three children. there he is hugging his mom who is about to celebrate ten years of sobriety. jd vance basically, two parts of his speech which one was autobiographical autobiographical, explaining who he is, where he comes from, his very compelling personal life story. already, as his wife pointed out, the subject of a ron howard movie hillbilly elegy of bestselling book telling about his hardscrabble routes and appalachia and his mom with an addiction problem

and a father who disappeared. he was raised by his grandparents it's part of his biography was cementing himself to three battleground states. the son of ohio talked about wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania i think i counted four or five times that he referred to those three specific states that president trump and senator vance would like to win. in november. >> the second part of his presentation was as clear as the introductory music we heard merle haggard america first, which if you listen to the lyrics, it came out in 2005. >> that song is a protest song against the iraq war. that is a song that is explicitly a rejection section of george w bush saying that george w bush should have been rebuilding america not iraq. and in jd vance's message, dana bash, not only did he criticize the

foreign policy of the republican party of old but the economic policy of the republican party of old and the democratic party of today noting how president biden has senator supported both nafta and most favorite nation status for china those were trade deals that hurt people in ohio. and if you weren't sure, he did mention michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin you know the way that he talked about economic policy was so stunning, jake because you almost forgot for those of us who have covered republican conventions in the past that we were actually at a republican convention i mean, he was trashing that free trade policies that republicans espoused for a very long time. >> when after wall street went after big corporations and talked over and over about the working man aside from some of

the other issues that he doesn't disagree with, doesn't agree with bernie sanders could have given some of these talking points tonight, elizabeth warren could have as well. but the way that he wrapped what i just described into the generational sort of frame, talking about how he was in fourth grade when joe biden supported nafta. he was a sophomore in high school when joe biden gave china as sweetheart deal. so he not only made himself clearly the populist that he is, and donald trump is to a lesser extent but he reminded people throughout that riff how young he is and what a generational difference there is between him also between him and his guy at the top of the ticket. >> i'd favorite line in the speech was what you said america's ruling class wrote the checks and our communities

paid the price and it seemed to me it really harked back to the original message that donald trump made. that was so affected back in 2016, which is the idea that there's a rigged game in america, there's a ruling class he used that phrase that makes the deals, makes the money, and it's the forgotten he talked about forgotten people. he talked about forgotten communities like his, that end up paying the price. and he really cemented himself as part of that forgotten community. and those people who don't feel that they have anybody looking out for them in washington or wall street i also thought the reference to the cemetery at it specifically was about the idea that seemed to me said america is an idea, but it's a lot more than that. it's a nation it's a homeland. and i think he was saying, in effect, you know, does a lot of principles and social policies and all of

that out there. but this is a nation and we have to protect it and cherish it. whether that's in terms of enforcing our borders, whether that's in terms of protecting our jobs businesses, and industries, that it was a different slant on america. first, not isolation is yes, but protecting what we have and holding a dear well, i thought was very powerful speech, very well-written. >> can i say one thing that i forgot to mention? we didn't hear at all when it comes to economics, there was no call for tax cuts. there was not a discussion about the national debt, but specifically on tax cuts meant was the last time you heard a republican give a speech to not call for cutting of your taxes yeah. it's been a long time he well, that's not that's certainly not in keeping with his message. >> jd vance, his personal message. it is certainly what the guy at the top of the ticket, donald trump has said to big donors behind closed doors that he wants to give him another big tax cut it is also

interesting. i would note there was only the briefest of illusions unless i missed it a bout. he didn't say the word ukraine. i don't think he is famously or infamously, depending on your point of view opposed to military aid from the united states to ukraine he he did talk about the fact that it is important for the republican party to be a place where these ideas can be debated and i thought that was him, anderson leaning into the idea of, i mean, au obliquely, but leaning into the idea of yes, i look at some of these things differently, but let's hash it out. my interpretation anyway, anderson. >> jake, thanks very much john king. i mean, you've heard a lot of vice presidential nominees speeches. what did you make of this? >> well, let's start with the most important fact. there is nothing in american political history that says a vice president actually makes a difference. come election day. people vote for president. you can scour the books, you can scour the data that you will

find no compelling case that any nominee for vice president ever. has been the factor in making a difference come election day. however, they can hurt. you, didn't do anything to hurt them tonight. he gave a very compelling speech. we can argue about the policy. so that's what that's what debates are about. we're told the. very compelling story. and the forgotten part where he's from and where he will be looked at. people are very pennsylvania in grand rapids, michigan in oshkosh, wisconsin are going to see a lot of jd vance he's going to talk about growing up and it middle take is family grew up in kentucky. he grew up in middletown, which was once an industrial town along that there was a canal that ran all the way the up the side of ohio in the old days, that's where the jobs were there. all people who worked with their hands manufacturing jobs. you can go to a lot of those communities across america main street is nothing anymore. and he knows that he can tell that story and you find those places in pennsylvania in michigan, and wisconsin. >> he a very compelling campaigner. >> we're going to see him on local tv markets and all those places forever. he's a good ad. i don't want to overstate the idea that he's going to make any huge difference because there's no history. can i say something about i

mean, you're absolutely right about his story, which is compelling, which makes you wonder why his story was in his entry point into this speech, the speech had four five pages of patients to donald trump and his courage in all of that. >> and i actually was really disappointed this guy wrote a great book, a great memoir that was moving and filled with stories as told, a larger story about the struggles of people. and i was really expecting him to be a great storyteller. tonight and real looking with somebody who's been on the, on the political scene for less than two years now it's a work, it's a work in progress i think is the best way to describe the price that admission to a trump event that you saying that was upside down or he should have started with the best part which is his life mama that story was what lit up this audience. the rest of it kind of fell a little bit flat. but look, i don't think trump

picked him because he was a really great speaker, somebody who could live in up this room he picked him because he had the right message and the right biography and probably wasn't going to upstage him. and i think he did probably all of those those things to me look so so jd vance isn't going to be a vegas act. >> that's okay. >> to be vice president. he doesn't need to overshadow donald trump. i was listening au in mission accomplished. i i was listening to this song they played when he finished don't stop thinking about tomorrow. >> so now they got bill clinton saw him but any increasingly they have bill clinton's voters, the people who are gravitating to this ticket are the same people who voted that working class base voted for bill clinton in the 90s. they largely gravitated to the republicans over cultural issues and now vance and trump are going to give them the economic agenda to go with it a couple of issues. i think the riff on the seven generations, we built things and made things. i thought that was effective and that will resonate in the kinds of areas where he's going to campaign.

and i loved the homage to his mother cleaning is over for ten years. that was a powerful moment in net is an issue that every family in this country, some way somehow is dealing with the biden family i was going to say, look, when when jd vance was strongest out there, he's talking about his mom, his grandmother his mother. >> he's related. he's being humans that's what he was the most what he was giving the raw meat to the base kind of ofs got an off message. it really wasn't he wasn't his best. i'd like to hear him talk more about his record. spirits up the first marine corps veteran on any major party ticket, which which isn't which is something in a country that has lots of military bedpan i think he put a very friendly face on a pretty disturbing agenda. the good part of the agenda, i could tell him, guess what? you don't have to run vice president for the good part of your agenda, you could just vote for joe biden's. you've talked about supply chains joe biden passed a bill called the chips act that takes care of that, losing the right

direction without him he's talked about being not buying energy from people that don't like it. we're a net energy exports he's talking about manufacturing. the manufacturing peek under biden is higher than the peek under trump. if he wants his policy agenda. you can just stay home and vote for joe biden joe biden might not want candidate, but tomorrow morning. so but that's not the problem with a speech to prop with the speeches. splitting a very friendly face on a very selfish and narrow vision of what america is supposed to be and unlike shroff, who was an intuitive, impulsive, instinctive nationalists, this is an ideological nationalists that's the theory. different strain of the virus he can sell this stuff to silicon valley wall street and normal people but the his vision will make a america smaller, more narrow and weaker. but again, that's the problem with dana said earlier is actually through his economic agenda sounded like bernie sanders, not lap bill clinton's book burning at

promise that donald trump program as president was very much a wall street oriented program. it wasn't a populist agenda fascinating. >> i mean, if they are, if there is a trump banner thanks. in sec is going to look just like it does now exact mod running it. he is, she's actually an ally, is but can i say this speech was going on? the person i was watching who's not always jd vance but donald trump says, i think the understated part of what mike pence was, how he navigated an incredibly challenging president to work with. i mean, as catholic cabinet. and when he had pardon out, believe everything he was saying on donald trump, he didn't have to do that. if you work for donald trump, that is not just happening at the convention, that is going to be his role over the next four years. >> i want to bring in cnn factchecker for senior reporter, daniel dale is this is all tonight's speech. daniel, what stood out to anderson tonight was a fact check, doozy, a whole lot of false and misleading claims. i want to start with the claim that jd vance made in his speech. he strongly suggested that in contrast to joe biden, donald trump opposed the

invasion of iraq. listen when i was a senior in high school, that same joe biden supported the disastrous invasion of iraq, somehow a real estate developer from new york city by the name of donald j trump was right on all of these issues while biden was wrong this claim is highly misleading at best. >> in reality, donald trump was supportive of the invasion of iraq when he was asked six months before the invasion by howard stern whether he was for an invasion. he said quote, yeah, i guess so. i wish the first time it was done correctly than two months before the invasion, he said on fox news that president bush and this is a direct quote, has either got to do something or not do something. perhaps not the words of an explicit opponent. now he did become an opponent of the war in 2004, but vance, a suggestion that trump was on the opposite side of biden on the question of starting the war that trump got this invasion question, right? while biden was wrong. and that's just not true that was

not anderson. the only assertion tonight that was misleading or flat wrong and i'll give you just some of them. a former trump adviser, peter navarro, whose fresh out of prison falsely claimed jack smith prosecuted him. smith did not. a florida congressman, mike waltz mocked biden for allegedly being focused on building electric tanks that is pure fiction. biden has made no don't push for electric tanks, though the army does want some other vehicles to be electrified, a various speakers depicted a country with ramp and crime and violence without acknowledging and violent crime has now lower than it was in donald trump's last year in office, 2020, a former house speaker, newt gingrich, said trump orchestrated an orderly end to the war in afghanistan. trump didn't actually orchestrates a withdrawal. it all gingrich also claimed no us soldier was killed in nearly two years. there, there was not any two-year period under trump when zero us troops were killed in afghanistan. and finally, conservative commentator kimberly guilfoyle, donald trump, junior three on say, declare that trump handed joe biden a booming economy. you might remember what things were actually like in january

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bonus jackpot party a party and every spirit i'm sara murray in washington and this is cnn night three of the republican national convention just wrapped up here in milwaukee in battleground state, wisconsin senator jd vance of ohio introduced himself to the party into the nation as donald trump's running mate. he accepted his party's nomination. formerly this evening, there's also news on the other sure. side of the aisle from the democrats sources sharing with cnn details of a recent phone call between president biden and former house speaker nancy pelosi, who remember remains a very powerful and influential democrat in congress. cnn's mj lee is joining us from the white house with more mj. what can you tell us about this call? >> jake, we are learning that former house speaker nancy pelosi and president biden spoke again recently and that pelosi told the president that polling shows that the president cannot defeat donald trump. and that he could destroy democrats chances of

winning the house if he were to continue seeking a second term, that we are also told by our sources that the president respond founded by being defensive about the polling telling pelosi he has seen the data polling that shows that he can in fact, win and that at one point up pelosi asked mike donilon the president's senior adviser, to get on the line to go over the data. now, none of our sources said whether in this phone call nancy pelosi privately told president biden that she believes he should drop out of the race, but it's important to note this is the second known conversation now between nancy pelosi and president biden since debate performance, that really shook the party in at the end of june i should also note the white house wouldn't comment on our reporting and this meeting. they said president biden is the nominee of the party he plans to win in a pelosi spokesperson said pelosi has been in california since friday and has not spoken to biden since. obviously, jake we

cannot overstate just how important nancy pelosi is to all of this. she has so much sway within the party. you probably have the best pulse on where all of her colleagues are on the biden situation, than probably anybody else. and the big question going forward is at some point, does she get to a point where she may be publicly says that she believes that the president shouldn't stay in the race all right. mj lee, amazing stuff. jeff zeleny also has been reporting on the story. jeff, tell us more about these conversations between former house speaker nancy pelosi and president biden. >> but take a lot of democrats have been taking there are worries and fears to former house speaker nancy pelosi, and we have really seen an evolution of our thinking over the last now nearly three weeks since that debate. now on president biden said he is going to run. he's not reconsidering she reopened the door for him and that allowed some other house democrats to have conversations with her. so she has has been trying to handle this behind the scenes, if you will. but what we are

hearing is that it hasn't worked, so they are being slightly more public with this, but she's not alone last saturday, a key meeting in all of this history may show this to be a pivotal meeting here, depending on what happens, senator chuck schumer, the senate majority leader, traveled to rehoboth beach. that's where the president was spending the weekend. he had a private one-on-one meeting with the president expressing concerns of senate democrats as well, that they do not think that they can win and are worried about him winning in november. >> so jake taken together all of this, this is a different moment here as we hit the three week period. >> as for the president, he's back in delaware campaign tells me tonight he's in this race. he is not changing and they say he'll be the democratic nominee. of course, we'll see about that, jake. >> we will jeff zeleny. >> let's stick around. let's talk about this with my panel. chris wallace and dana bash. i want to show some recent video. the most recent video we have of president biden he has covid he had to cancel an appearance

at an event here he is earlier tonight at dover air force base, delaware, walking down the stairs, looking i don't know around let's say it's a very halting procession down the stairs though and the reason i wanted to show this video is i'm not sure in all these conversations how much it's being illustrated to president biden not just the democrats worry he cannot turn this around, that he's a drag on the ticket that he is going to lose. >> but that the reason he is the drag on the ticket, the reason that his poll numbers are so bad? >> it's irreversible. >> it is because the american people think he's too old not competent to do the job. that was highlighted, even more in the debate. but that's where the american people, according to polls have been for months, if not years. this is not something that he can turn

around. >> we've seen him speak before the naacp and lose his train of thought. >> we've seen him give interviews to, to speedy stephanopoulos know not stephanopoulos now speed is the youtuber. yeah dj. and he loses his train of thought in those interviews as well. this is not something that he can turn around. it's you can be donald trump, but you can't beat father time. >> yeah listen, i mean, that is why what you are seeing. >> the private conversations that mj was just reporting on even more so with nancy pelosi, what we know chuck schumer, would we know that he was very direct? with with joe biden when he spoke with the president on saturday and we know about these series of conversations that he's had with house democrats, particularly the one with some of the front liners, the more

centrist democrats, who were very blunt with him on the polling, but also on the fundamentals that you were just talking about now he has covid. i mean, we both have covid have had covid. i certainly have not felt great, but this is far beyond the moment that we were that we are in right now. jake, i have talked to house members. i've been texting with them, listening to what has been going on publicly, even in the last ten hours, 12 hours knowing what has already been going on privately, seeing it become more public. one said to meet the walls are closing in on the president because the desperation, the frustration, frustration, and the sometimes in some cases, anger is overwhelming that they can't get through to him. >> you know, sometimes you see an image and it's almost a perfect metaphor for a

situation. and to see joe biden looking so slow, so halting, so old as he came down the steps. and when it originally happens, cnn put it on live and as split-screen, i forget exactly what was going on at the convention at that point. but, you know, there was energy and excitement and a plan for the future, not saying it's necessarily the right plan and news the joe biden as his political support is crumbling, as his financial support is crumbling, as he's suffered a health setback, as he's had a series as you say, of troubling interviews, as he's making the effort to show that the debate that you moderated was somehow bad night it isn't going away and tonight just seem to be a combination of having said all of that, you know, it's one thing to say to a guy. hey, your numbers an ohio or pennsylvania, or really, really bad, it's another thing to

say. you're no longer up to the job that that gets drawn to a whole different, not political level of personal level. and for him and his wife, jill, and his family to come to terms with that is going to be very hard and i'm not sure that that he will. >> yeah. and anderson, that's that's what i'm wondering these blunt messages that are being given to president biden from speaker pelosi, from leader schumer, the democratic leader of the senate and on and on and on how many of those messages are performance-based as opposed to just your, your polling numbers or bad. >> how many of them are the kind of blunt conversation that so many of us have had to have with parents or grandparents because of the inevitability, the situation that if we're lucky enough to get to be that old we all face adam schiff as well has come out very

publicly. i mean, david axelrod, of course jake makes the point about conversations. people have had with family members that we've all had with family members and that's what this may boil down to conversations with biden family members and from all the reporting, it seems that there is world has shrunk. anderson to his family and a couple of close advisers and someone has to recognize the reality of the situation. there was a memo circulating today among the congressional leadership done by a pac for the senate and house of packs for the senate and house and in it, it said that 18% of people now say they believe the president is fit to serve 18%, including just a third of people who voted for him last time. you put that together with the meeting with katzenberg, which reflects i think the reality of the money has dried up. and i said earlier, there's reported that jeffrey katzenberg, a large

fundraising his his his key he fundraiser. no one has done more for the president and katzenberg, he's devoted his life to this project someone has to say here is the reality, there is not a path forward. he said in an interview that he would get out if he was told by his advisers that there was a path forward, if his advisers don't tell him that now they're not doing him a service and they shouldn't be as advisors this is the end game. >> now he may be able to run out the clock and stay on the ticket. but you got to lead and we have a big coalition you have a lot of african american voters who are still with joe biden they still want him to stick in there. we're used to seeing our leader stumble. we're used to seeing our leaders be attacked by the media in ways that aren't fair. and were slow to let go. somebody and so i'm proud that the black grassroots of standing with joe biden, but the party is bigger than that the donors walking away the

best people in our party, the smart people in our party are looking at them math and the math don't math. and so it's important i think that we recognize that this could be this is the end game one way or the other is the end game tonight's very 11 thing i want to ask. >> i'm sorry. i just one last data point which is that there was an ap norc poll today that said two-thirds of democrats want him to drop out, and that yes, he has got stronger support among african americans, but there are a fair number of african americans, but that too, and it's a reflection of what they see. >> well, and jeff zeleny makes a great point that tomorrow marks three weeks since the debate and i talked to white house officials. i was at the white house last week. they really thought they were going to hit the ground running, coming out of this, he was going to do a lot of public events. he was going to do a bunch of interviews. well, now he's going to self-isolate for a few days is in every interview in public appearance he has done has not done enough to materially change what you were hearing from democrats behind closed doors who do believe that it is up to the policies and schumer's and that small group of advisers

around him, the mike donilon, steve richetti, to have that conversation. and even they behind the scenes seem to be getting closer to that to that what we heard from jd vance tonight, which is not on daniel deals less because it's true. but it is true. we have a big tent in our party. we love this country. we are united to win. the democrats see this here. this party has rallied around donald trump for all the controversy about trump in the past, this party has rallied around donald trump's. so democrats are looking not just at the polling, but to david's pointing to jake, raise this mistake or you did something out there, you can change that. you can apologize, you can change your policy. you can have an event. this is a performance question. it's not just that they're telling the president you're losing michigan using pennsylvania, you're losing wisconsin, you're losing nevada, you're losing arizona. you're beginning to put new mexico in play. what? you are beginning to put new hampshire in play, what you're putting virginia in play. hello. this is not just that they're saying the reason is because the american people to david's point about the poll and they're showing the data. they do not believe

you are up to the job. it's not that's not something you can change and it's at least if you if you come out of the debate, you knew they were raising that question? to kaitlan's point and abby's point about the interviews and the performance is if you thought you could change it, you have not succeeded because the numbers are getting worse. scott i continue to think that this is more than just a political problem. >> i mean, if democrats are saying that he's not fit to serve in january and we're seeing the rapid deterioration of the president before our very eyes right now i still think we need to have a conversation about who's running the country today. is he fit to serve for the next few months? i'm just not satisfied that this is only a political campaign problem to me. the country still has to operate and he's still supposedly the i would just say quickly, the split screen of joe biden walking off the airplane and the imagery from this evening should have democrats very concerned stay with cnn as the republican convention heads into its fourth and final night laura coates is that the scene and grille to break it all down? >> she's coming up next let me

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talked about what happened tonight when the maga era parent he took center stage today, we've got you covered here from the cnn political grill right here in milwaukee on day three of the republican. >> now just want convention the very day when senator jd vance accepted the republican vice presidential nomination now his speech tried to give you a little bit of this and a little bit of that phase one time reintroducing himself. and of course his biography his childhood in appalachia, his lower middle-class, to the marines, to harbored trajectory. >> it also highlighted his deep distrust of washington his prescription for reading the swamp of a fever. >> he says that solution is donald trump from iraq to afghanistan, from the financial

crisis to the great recession, from open borders to stagnating wages. >> the people who govern this country have failed and failed again president trump represents america's last best hope to restore what if lost, may never be found again a country we're working class boy, born far from the halls of power can stand on this stage as the next vice president of the united states of america. erica well, the republicans, the room they did not hold back their excitement. >> they haven't throughout this entire convention, franklin, whether it plays for republicans side the room, who say that some no longer recognize their party. we don't yet know how it resonates, but we do know that there is quite a split screen happening. one that is maybe delighting republicans it's on the other ticking off democrats, who desperately want to turn the page, because while democrats are in the middle of a kind of a game of thrones filed back and forth over who should be their nominee. joe biden, the president, is publicly insisting that he is

the nominee. >> end of story. >> but cnn reporting tonight says there are two key piece of information that might be signaling a kind of sea change one, joe biden has gone from saying that kamala harris can't win to asking okay. and now may seem like a small turn of events, but it does show that he may be more open to possibilities, that it is not him and number two that former house speaker nancy pelosi, has apparently privately told the president that the polls show he cannot win versus donald trump and that it will get worse than biden's hang on. the ballot will somehow sink any hopes of democrats winning back the house but i can't help but wonder which came first, the compensation about them staying are people we'll actually wanting to have that conversation. will get to all of that. but furthest the game with the convention and joining me now is north dakota governor and former republican presidential candidate doug burgum. graham. he spoke tonight at the rnc. governor. thank you so much for being

with me this evening. >> great to be with you. quite a party cnn throws here. >> i mean, we try to do, we can, but it may pale in comparison to the excitement inside of that convention hall when senator jd vance took to that stage people were wondering up until the very last moment whether he would in fact be that vice president running mate, your name was on that list, governor what is your reaction seeing that he is now the person who will be there well, it's all positive because i think president trump made a great pick with jd vance you heard his speech tonight and what an incredible personal story. i had an opportunity to beat his mother, who is when i met her. >> she's she's in recovery and shooting he celebrating ten years next january the first lady of north dakota is also in recovery. were bowl celebrating his mom and he even said, look, if we win this grace, mom, maybe we can celebrate your tenth anniversary recovery at the white house that was one of

the moments of the night when most people were up on their feet. i think this deltas, one thing for sure is the open-borders that the hundreds of thousands of fentanyl deaths that have occurred, or joe biden that this is an issue that crosses all party lines. the disease of addiction and i think he's got a great message. and then of course serving in the marines. he's got he's got the aucertainly has got to approach, which hey, we're back in the blue or back in the military. but also his identification and what the working people, the people that have built america in ohio, michigan, wisconsin, that was a reoccurring theme throughout the night. and those are states that we need to win. and then he kept i'm talking about the energy workers in ohio and pennsylvania and president trump out if we unleash american energy, what that's going to do for the economy of those two states. he was going right at the blue wall from the minute jd vance starting to talk until the end, and he's got a great story that name is going to resonate across those five states. >> you know, it was a very powerful and poignant moment when it's mother stood up and

received the cheers from the crowd and the chants of jds mom and speaking about it, and there was a moment i think that many people wonder whether senator jd vance would be able to expand the base 100 days out for reelection to have a vice president can't have kept pick who can do that do you think that he will be essential to bringing in more voters in the rust belt and beyond, given his policy positions while i think when you're the vice president, your policy positions that you might have an senator go by the wayside and he thanks so well, yeah. >> and he said very clearly tonight so that i'm serving president trump honored to be his pick and president trump's policies absolutely. the coalition of the republican party now is common sense and working class families, if you're someone in our country, it's a paycheck. you're getting crushed by inflation, interest rates. all of these things that are economically real way which is down under joe biden. they were up over $4,000 per family under

president trump. so we've gone from the trump economic miracle to this blaze that we're in now jd vance is going to be in a position to really speak to those workers, like we saw earlier this week, the head of the teamsters endorsing president trump. and i think when you see truck drivers, it's not just the economics, it's the fact that joe biden's got a war in american energy and you guys that are driving these 18 wheelers, they're not they're not going to ever we drive an electric 18 wheeler, has half their load would have to be batteries and it doesn't work in cold weather across these states, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, ohio, jds representing the policies the president trump, i think is going to mow a path all the way through those states. >> i do wonder. i mean, obviously you have a kindred spirit. you've said in the past for donald trump about your business acumen and that and jd vance has a different obviously bowl that he has played including until lecun valley. certainly he's had working class background. i do wonder to what extent his past

professional experiences either alienate or draw in other voters on that point. but let me ask you, because there's a lot of the conversation has been about the vice presidential pick. and there is a vice president, right now, kamala harris, who is being talked about on the other side of the aisle as potentially topping the ticket, one, what do you make of the democrats having this conversation about a change in ticket? possibly late in the game so what would it look like for the policy positions of trump against a kamala harris presidential candidate the chaos are the democrats i don't even know how to describe because every day who he's going to be the candidate who is going to be the vice president. >> what will the process be to try to select one every day that party doesn't know who they're supporting is another day closer to the election day in november. it's another day lost of fundraising. that's another day loss of building party unity so that every day there's that chaos that's good, that's good for president trump and it's good for america because i believe

president trump's policies are unleashing us energy, closing the borders, stopping boris turning around inflation getting our economy going. those things are good for everybody there, good for independents, democrats, good for republicans. >> but what a matchup with trump and with the platform fundamentally changed. do you think to address her capabilities? >> i don't think it's about vice president harris's capabilities i mean one thing americans know that one of the things that she was asked to do was to be the borders are and the border is one of the biggest issues that americans are facing 20 16 a vital been about immigration. now it's about public safety. now it's about national security. i don't think that she has an answer on that any better than joe biden does? and certainly she doesn't have the background of saying, hey, i've got a plan on how to turn on the economy because she's tied to, she's tied to the policy joe biden has said, i'm going to raise everybody is tapped well, he has said that the wealthy should pay their fair share. he's pointed to corporate

america in particular for that reason. but on the issue of immigration, agree with that, and i know i know. yeah. have in the past in the in the but when when the president trump's tax cuts went in, the share of taxes paid by the wealthy went up and so it's all talking point that the wealthy should pay more or they are paying more, they fade morrison, those tax there was so much money that was repatriated back to the u.s. >> when those corporate tax credits went down, that's part of the reason why the average working family in america benefited economically comically, from the trump's economic miracle. >> and so when you get, when you actually look at the numbers, it's just a fact. >> people were better off under president trump. >> well, certainly there are some x economic successes that this administration can tout. but i do recognize that there is the economy overall and there's the personal economy of every individual when they see their grocery carts and they have different consider relations when they think about the administration. but on the issue of immigration, i really am wanted to know your opinion on this immigration as an issue has alluded successive

presidential administrations. i mean to suggest that one person could fix the border is a fool's errand what precisely do you think could be done? >> try to change it? if the trump administration were to come back into power, i think number one is just go back to the policies when president trump left office that january, when he left office, that was the lowest illegal immigration that that in a long time. >> and i think of the charges shows that going down and then it shows that going back up, but now it's what millions a year. and i've been down at the border i think actually more time because i know at watched the news workboard times that either harris or biden because we've had north dakota national guard down there. i think it's one of the most underreported stories every day. there's something else going on you really report on that. but at the border with the crossings that are happening people on the terror watch list. the amount of people that just come through get processed, they're given a court date that's 2028, 2020 nine we have no idea. it's not

even computer work there given paperwork at how do we sort out where 10 million people are in our country and so it is just, it is acts absolutely. i don't know how you have national security any nation in the world unless you have border security. and of course we're at a place where people want to come. we're the american dream but we have to, we have to make sure that we're doing that in a way. and i don't think the republican party is ready to have a discussion about fixing legal immigration until we secure the border. the border is secure. i think then that conversation can start. >> well, that's part of the concern in congress may elect many voters have said, when will the conversation be complete, even when there is it's like if you shout table, but governor, thank you so much for joining. >> thank you, laura. >> good to be with you. >> thank you so much. enjoy well now, jd vance had a lot to say about his background and he did he set up a pretty stark contrast. he believes with president joe biden. listen to what he said joe biden has been

a politician in washington for longer than i've been alive 39-years-old kamala harris is not much further behind for half-a-century. >> he's been the champion of every major policy initiatives to make america weaker and poor. things did not work out well for a lot of kids. i grew up with every now and then, i will get a call from a relative back home who asked did you know so and so and i'll remember a face from years ago and then all here, they died of an overdose as always, america's ruling class wrote the checks communities like mine paid the price for decades, that divide between the few with their power and comfort in washington and the rest of us only widened from iraq to afghanistan, from the financial crisis to the great recession, from open borders to stagnating wages. the people who govern this country have failed and failed again well, my panel has a lot of thoughts

on all events we've got bryan lanza, ashley allison, mark preston, and harry enten. good to have you all here. listen. many people have read the book that he wrote, hillbilly elegy. they may have seen the movie glenn close and may have been those who do the cliff notes version of it. i do wonder as he re-introduce himself to the country, do you think people have a better sense of who he is and likes? >> let me say that i didn't find his speech energizing. i didn't feel the proud pulling it down, but what i did say is somebody who frontally relatable to well, if across the nation. now whether or not they like his politics remains to be seen, but even though it was trying to of a it wasn't a mediocre speech, perhaps the delivery wasn't as strong i still think that he was likeable. i really do and i think that he will his personal story is going to touch the heart. so probably a lot of people across this scratch, but we met his wife. >> we saw his mother, we learned a lot of battle what's going on as ever now? what do you know when it comes to likability is the word that many pollsters hate to hear

about the likeability aspect of it, but asking me, ask you about this which is more according to voters, you think likability on that stage or policy well, i've been saying for a while that what seems to be happening and politics right now is there are facts there are feeling right now, the voters are feeling they're struggling, but the facts are under donald trump, the medium household income in middletown, ohio where jake we vance's from, what, $42,000 in 2024 under joe biden, it is $63,000. that means people under joe biden and are making more the poverty level under donald trump was 22% in that hometown under joe biden, it's 19%. so the facts are, things are better the reality though is that people are not feeling so that is the challenge that joe biden and this administration has constantly felt, is that they haven't been able to say you might not be feeling the direct impact, but i am fighting for you. >> jd vance talks about i'm

from ohio. i went to ohio state. i think we miss each other by three months, literally it's a matter of ohio is a labor unions how jd vance voted against the pro act, which would protect labor. her tension, jd vance voted against nlrb, the national labor review board restrictions to help protect workers. >> so when we talk about who was fighting for the working people, i wanted three democrats haven't done a good job in conveying that message. but the facts are clear that it's democrats, it's not going to be jd vance and it's not going to be donald trump. >> why do you laugh at that? i thought you smirk a little bit. the brian. >> americans unaffordable for the for the working class ludicrous and it doesn't direct result of joe biden's policies. >> remember, she just finished. so she can cite whatever at me she was but if you can't afford anything, they never doesn't matter. >> au double check the facts. >> he says, had you put put it, but if but if you're going to say america feels better, you'll be because the economy does better people don't feel that and they don't feel that the able they want to reverse this i hear you.

>> i want to hear what i would say is born abilities it's actually made it worse. >> and so going back to the original point, it's great that you say that the race is that the salary has gone up we'll check it. but if beijing goes up higher than that, nobody feels it. and that's why they don't feel that joe biden is not just a number one issue only primary, and that's inflation for 40 months failed to get his own target of 2% tau said it's 2% 7s transitional. do you months. he has failed pretty months is almost the equivalent of the entire term when is he going? the stumble on it and get it right people want to know what he's going to do. it inflation it for 40 months, he's failed and that's what, and that's what jd said. he has floated the working class communities and he feels that he's failed the middle for class committee by not addressing the most important issue. and that's inflation. well, you both have raised interesting point about this feeling versus back dynamic. >> and you know, i do wonder from both their positions why the disconnect? how do voters try to close that and of course, politicians were 100

and i think nine days away from the election, i feel the great frustration that's going on with my democratic friends over there and it reminds me of sort of what i see on twitter, or i guess now oftentimes republicans will say something about the state of the economy and how people feel. and then democrats will answer with a grant from the website fred, and it's essentially showing know the economy is better than you think it is. and it just falls short. and i think it comes down to you can talk about income growth you could talk about all these different statistics. low unemployment, but at the end of the day, it's the inflation factor. it's the inflation factor that all of us are feeling. you go to that supermarket, you compare to what the prices are now versus five years ago, pre pandemic, three joe biden getting in office and it just the argument isn't working, but i do want to bring this back a little bit and talk about jd vance and talk about the fact that he's from ohio. i remember when ohio was competitive state on the president's very long ago, it wasn't very long ago. and he's while the rise of jd vance, the rise of the

republican party in the state of ohio is fleck of donald trump's reached with the white working class communities and now increasingly, working class communities and people of color as well. and that is part of the big reason that donald trump is ahead in this election, right now, i think it's also part of the reason that jd vance was impacts elected as vp because it's reflective of that rise. >> well, marc, i mean, is it going to make a difference? i mean, it will he really be able to get and bring out those voters and that rust belt looking ai vice president just said no, doesn't win an election. no, it doesn't. we've had this discussion. how many times have i gone on air on this network? and i showed this table in which it say, okay extremely important to your 2024 vote, their number one is protecting democracy nearly 50 or over 50% the economy number two, well, in the 40s and then way down on the list, i can get down on the floor. it's trump's vp pick up. >> yeah. but you know, why don't i don't want cut you off, but why don't believe i know. >> i don't believe the fact that the vp pick is irrelevant for the fact that nikki haley has spent much of her campaign saying that a vote for biden is

there for and frankly, age is such a huge issue in this campaign. it's an important point to raise, so okay, so look at it this way. >> ai believe that the debate really hurt joe biden specifically with white men. you could argue well democrats gloss white man, but they still have for white men that are supporting him in the more of white men that you lose, you have to pick that up somewhere else. you can pick it up with african-american, you going to pick it up. vision american incident? spanish, whomever. okay. i think jd vance tonight kind of maidan appeal to that white and forgive me for saying this kind of bro vote. you know, that i think that what it works, but it works. i mean, you walk around that did that convention hall today? i mean, they were bros. everywhere. it was like it was like a fraternity party for like twenty-five-year-old, but the polling shows that the democratic party is having a problem they're young folks, 35 and you jd appeals. why are they having a problem with that? 35 been under if you look at the data, it says they

don't feel hopeful about tomorrow. that is a direct result. of joe biden's policies. another, the result of of donald trump's policies. it's a direct result of the last few years that the young people have lost hope, jd has the appeal to that and he's hopeful appeal. so he's this guy who picked itself up from severe poverty, bootstraps. it achieved success people under 35 are looking at and say, maybe it's still exist, but it clearly doesn't exist under joe biden well, i mean right. >> covid may have had a little something to do with people feeling helpless last couple of years, we have more to talk about everyone, please stand standby. there's big, big news on the other side of the aisle tonight, a possible inflection point and the efforts by some democrats to push joe biden out of the race, including a major move by nancy pelosi, plus a stunning scene on the convention floor, a group of republican senators shame he's saying down the head of the secret service, there's the footage read back in a moment tonight live from milwaukee, former president trump accepts his party's nomination for the

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tipping point for president biden's state cnn reports the former house speaker, nancy pelosi, has privately told biden that the polls show he cannot win in november at he will take down the house along with we're told the biden responded with defensiveness, which frankly is expected given that he is the incumbent who's got the delegates and this off course also comes as learned that senate majority leader chuck schumer has expressed similar concerns. however, we're also learning that biden has become a little more receptive about the future of the ticket. even asking advisors, do you think kamala can win on top of this biden is suddenly off the campaign trail. why? >> maybe mercury's? retrograde? i just don't know, but he tested positive for covid-19 today and he's back home in delaware for the next few days. we've got brian and ashley with us. they've made up don't worry about it. also, kaitlin collins and phil mattingly are also year as well. >> i got to ask you guys, first of all the fact that this is happening in the ad joked about mercury retrograde but, dems

can't catch a break. >> now, the president has covid yeah it's because also we talked to white house officials and phil knows as well, we both have covered presidents biden from the white house. >> is that they were really hoping to hit a few homeruns in this stretch tomorrow. we three weeks since the debate, it's hard to think of that. and they were hoping to have him out on the trail doing interviews showing that he is capable. and then it was just that one bad night and this is just the cherry on top of everything where he has struck able to break through, i think in those interviews, the one with lester holt, one would bet these moments where he hasn't really, really been able to kind of come out and show people that he is the president president biden au of 2022. they saw on the campaign trail then. >> but what are they looking for because many people are criticizing this conversation. >> a lot of voters, right? about they're saying, let it go number one or two, you're moving the goalposts. >> you said you wanted to go out there and talk to people. he's doing it. what is the criteria that they think is going to impact what they want?

>> president to make a decision. and the president has made the decision, right? repeatedly told them that the decision and their responses under no, not that different way. what are you gonna keep? ask me a decision in the nor the incumbent, your, the candidate you're going to delegates were going to give you basically this is my kids terrorists well, i mean, person was like, i don't know about the meal for tonight but i think what everybody's been waiting for is for him to reach the point himself. >> they know that if you pressure him, if you pressure his team, that they very much get into a bunker mentality of we've always, you've always told us we were wrong and we've always proven wrong and there is a long list of examples of the problem. this time around is that they don't feel like the people outside of that inner circle don't feel like they have the time they're looking at numbers, they're looking at data. the data has what has totally changed the game for everybody. and now you are seeing leaders, whether it's kim jeffries, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi either privately try and explain to the president what they're hearing from members without getting too far out or saying

kind of ambiguous things on tv that make people say, wait a minute see closely, maybe has some issues here, but i know that he gets there. >> i had to i hate i mean, this is me telling you what i hate america, but what i hate is that there's all the ambiguity if you've got something to say, i'm of the opinion, you just say it and i know that's not how washington, dc always works. you can already gone really right laura are you kidding me? that's how the world works ashley, the fact that you're hearing about his private conversations to kaitlan's point 0.23 weeks after the debate. and there's still not the definitive statement i mean, the fact that it's pelosi that it's jeffries, that it might be schumer and others and adam schiff, we know is that outward, he will do that wanted to step down is that going to be impactful to joe biden? i will just say one of the most frustrating things about washington, dc is people are fake and they don't actually say what they mean and it's why i think our country doesn't get to move forward in the way that it deserves for putting that aside what excited to everyone's fake.

>> myself back to her the night one of many perhaps look new and i had told some folks, if joe biden had a rough night after the bait some things we're going to shape up did i think they were going to shake for three weeks or we wouldn't know what we were going. >> no here's the thing that i think are is frustrating with people who are out in the country three particularly voters of color what's your plan? >> b if joe biden steps down what are we going to do? and it feels questionable when it is not that kamala harris would be the next person because she is on the ticket with joe biden already. she vice president. >> and yet that you have people pulling and not even putting her in the race that to me to some voters a part of that coalition that i helped build in 2020 fills, but barrett disrespectful and so the question is, what are we going to do? i actually don't care at this point. i just want to be donald trump because i am glad that he was saved on saturday,

but i disagree with him in every policy way and i don't think he is the best path forward for our country. and so for democrats to defeat him, we need to decide and go forward. we cannot keep going on. even even to the convention. it is very hard if it's not joe biden for someone to get name recognition on a national so these are not amateurs that campaigning and they really are not just playing. this, not just politics right now. this is an actual people's lives that they're playing with. >> that will what the outcome of november. let me ask you, ryan for know, i think people need to understand that donors like i'm talking to you, kamala harris is the only other option. like i'm just gonna be completely gone in the fact that people are saying, well, maybe it's like a five week sprinter. debates are many debates. there is one option. there's one option mechanically from a money perspective, from a message perspective from an operations perspective, there's one option for the apps backbone of the democratic base, which is if you pass the first african american woman to

serve as vice president what do you think is going to have its incident? hey, it's, you heard me if i'm wrong, you're talking to it's insane to me. >> i got to tell you when phil mattingly turns the camera and appeals to donors i mean, it was a moment i got to ask you, ryan, i miss me. ask you because be careful what you wish for. you might just get it is trump going to want anyone but biden? >> well, yeah, we always we only want biden we really want biden, but i'll say this, whether it's criminal or biden, remember they were they were behind in the polls before the debate, there, behind before the polls? >> because immigration was fairly inflation was failing. we had two wars and a third one was about to start. that's why there were losing. that's why they asked for the hail mary so the policies that column was going to be judged on are going to be the policy this is the joe biden, which have led to these massive failures for the american people. so she's started a disadvantage in my view. and not only that for for kamala harris to be vp on the california. so you always kind of route for california regardless of who they are. but for kamala harris to become the

nominee, she actually said to become the president. has joe biden said, i'm only going to step down as the doctor says stepped up au the doctor says, mr. president, you should step down. you don't have neurological fitness to run for president. how are you going to be president? so he would have to resign? how should be overwhelming for him to resign because the doctors say you can't run for president. and then democratic party says, he can still remain president. those things don't swear, and that becomes a problem for them to solve. >> quickly if i don't get to go, but why do you only want president biden? is it because you think the campaign is lacking fatally to be able to take on anyone else. >> look at the disarray right now? >> as long as biden zinder, the democratic, the democratic party are going to continue to each other through november. >> there's going to be another poll that comes out and they're going to say, see, we told you so there's not going to be it's much money as they raised and see, see, we told you so this is a problem. so that change is their message going from the rest of the campaign. he can't survive that message donald trump is tracking this very closely even while here at the convention preparing to speak tomorrow night, he is worried, not necessarily that

he's not sure that he can beat one of the alternatives are in floated vice president harris, namely, but it's it's uncertainty in the race that it's not as guaranteed is they feel a joe biden defeat would be well, we have a clear path right now the past gets a little bit windy when it changes i just want to say i appreciate i fed people in washington, dc are always on that. you saying that you actually want joe biden. i have not actually heard a lot of republicans say that, and i'm think that that's an we're fruitful fact. >> well, there you have it and the seat au political ground, the truth serum in every great and the cheese curds everyone. thank you so much tonight, new reporting let the biden campaign is daring big donors and lawmakers to back away even when phil mattingly makes an appeal saying there'll be helping somehow trump. so that's not scaring those donors will talk about it next tonight, live from milwaukee, former president trump accepts his party's nomination for the nation's highest office. >> jake tapper and anderson cooper lead cnn special live

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the conversation, but that here tell. me what went down in this meeting today between katzenberg and biden. >> that's very who's a huge fundraiser and a real adviser to the family met with him in vegas to talk about, among other things, the money that the child pledge of raising money from wall street and from hollywood, where two big sources of democratic money. and i think, i mean not a surprise. you look at the state of this campaign and people have stopped writing that's knew they say money is the mother's milk the politics, and it has just stopped flowing. >> why did they stop the debate or the polling or bot when i mean, i think it's all the same kind of vicious cycle, but since the debate, everything has been getting harder and political support is going the way the media is questioning him and now money is really drying up. >> you mentioned hollywood and i often wonder what role hollywood plays in influencing the average voter. what role of inference i'll have is it concerned? bring that hollywood and particular is starting to sort of pull back. you saw the george clooney out that we haven't heard like the dam

break, among others, you can go yeah. >> i mean, it's that's the horror power base? i think what you're seeing really in every sector of the democratic party as people are reluctant to go out and do more for damage to the cause and they're trying to urge biden privately to step aside. i think you saw that with the leaked today that chuck schumer, head five days earlier the told by the thought he should go. and i think that's sort of the usual cycle and politics, you have a private conversation with somebody. and if you don't like what they do, then you leak it five days later i think we're sort of seeing that cycle is that we think is happening for the undercurrent of going on. like i'm telling you, i'm doing it privately. i'm trying thanks. it conveys a level of respect to somebody who has been in politics so long? or is it a matter of look, it's just not stopping so now i've got to come out yeah. >> i mean, i think you're seeing can kind of a growing panic and you're going to see this become increasingly public increasingly damaging tell me about the impact this might have on down-ballot races. >> and obviously everyone's different presidential election wrapped up republican national

convention were talking about the tickets at republican side. there is a concern about down-ballot races and obviously the impotence of executive branch without having legislative branch in their corner. what's happening in the conversations there. >> i mean, look, we don't know, right. and it's hard to predict. but the senator, the senate today we reported just looking at some polling that showed them starting to slip around the country in these very important race, as, being outcome to republicans wind up with 52 535455 seats. and that is the nightmare for democrats. i mean, i think a lot of them believed that basically this country is so divided did so polarized that things can't move that much. and that's the question. i mean, that's what republicans are going for here to prove that wrong and say, you know what the country actually can move to 50 545 republican victory. >> do you think there would be a reinvigoration and excitement among hollywood or wall street if it were kamala harris on top of that let's take you know, i

think i mean, i think honestly anybody under 80 is going to like, there would there would be some level of peace fields coming back to the table like, i think what's happened? putting now is it's sort of like boycotts situation. i think there there'll be some level of come back to table, but it works. there'll also be different candidates, different factions of if it's it is very likely to be kamala. they'll probably be some stopped family back in the rises up. so i mean, it's incredibly messy, not what you want to be dealing with. this close to the eve of that convention for days or the election. thanks so much for being here, ben smith. thank you for more on this entire race. i want to bring in 2020 democratic presidential candidate andrew hey, andrew. so good to see you. i just talking to ben about this. i mean, you got jeffrey katzenberg, who's now warning president biden about donor money drying up at the same time i'm the campaign daring donors, not to support the president. i mean this the tale of two campaigns in some ways, right laura, i met with a megadonor yesterday and this isn't just the president and

he told senate candidates in swing states, i will not donate to you in till joe biden that's as the torch. >> and i'm sure he's getting that feedback from others in the party where if you're a swing senator, imagine having that phone call being told you will not get a dime for your campaign unless you get joe biden out i mean, that's a tremendous amount of pressure and i do wonder if that pressure exerted on that particular senator or member of congress could actually influence a decision by the president. >> what would that take to connect those dots we're starting to see it. >> laura, where chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, hakeem, jeffries are taking the concerns from their members to the president. >> the donor community has been closing ranks and sending the same message i think that joe biden is going to do the right thing and step aside because right now this is untenable. >> you can't run a campaign

without money, you can't have a nominee that most of the party wants to step aside. >> well, here's the concern there were millions of people who wanted him to be the person who is the nominee. >> and i do wonder what you think that voters will think if it's the donor class as opposed to voters who are determining whether he should stay in the race that could actually backfire on democrats who are talking about democratic principles could it not know what is he saying? the exact same thing. i think 72% of democrats want you to step aside. and one of the things we have to keep in mind is that there's going to be a ton of enthusiasm for the new nominee because those voters do not want donald trump in the oval office next january, you're going to see, in my opinion, eight or nine figures of resources, not just from big donors, but from grassroots $20 donors as soon as you have a new nominee to take on the donald trump jd vance ticket?

>> on the republican side, you're talking about that ticket. i mean, there are a number of ceos reportedly feeling scared, stiff and spooked about trump's running mate jd vance. i mean, he's worked with them like center was born to crack down on big banks he's praised the ftc chair and back in 2021, andrew, he made a pretty clear that he is fine with raising taxes on big corporations are these some legitimate fears from these particular dealing with me other side? >> no i think jd vance has presented himself as a bit of an isolation. >> and so i know there are folks that are concerned about america pulling back from various various commitments internationally. i do think that there is an appetite for some of the policies you just described. and what are the problems for the democratic party is that they have felt like they haven't been championing the working class population as much as you might

hope. and so i think there's an opportunity for republicans to take that case and get some voters from i'm ohio wall high aos, not really a swing state, but michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, where this election is going to be decided i mean, it was once a state that was a swing state or, you know, has changed decade or so, but so vance, he has claimed to be pro worker, may mid-last-year. >> he earned, i think as 0% score from the afl-cio when it came to backing working people it's pretty significant. so how does the biden campaign use this data to their advantage? is it a missed opportunity by not talking about it well jd vance has any number of positions that democrats will i'm sure be advertising heavily and he's something of far-right populist he has a set of ideas that i think some americans are going to feel

uncomfortable with. it was a competent picked by donald trump in my opinion, in the sense that if you're going to win, then you get someone in my jd vance, who is going to be the heir apparent? >> he's 39-years-old, he's trends with donald trump junior i thought that he might choose doug burgum, ai, glenn youngkin, even a nikki haley or marco rubio to try and draw in the base. i don't think that's jd vance's utility. i think the trump camp thinks they're going to win and they think they're going to win in large part because their opponent is an 81-year-old incumbent with 38% approval rating. and that's what i thanks should change hopefully in the next 48 hours what do you think is happening in next 48 hours i think that joe biden is going to be home delaware and people are coming to him. and he's going to realize that the best thing he can do for the country, his legacy, the party, people that do not want to see trump you have control of the house, the senate, the white house, and essentially the supreme court so i think that

we're going to have a lot of pressure come to bear on the president not coming. i happen to know of another democratic member of congress who has not gone public yet, who will use those shortly. but that to me is the highest leverage thing that can chain with raised. i'm certainly someone who wishes that joe biden will pass the torch and i think that he's going to see it the same way if people come to him andrew, the best thing that i think he the torch au. >> this is the greatest opportunity that they have. laura imagine jin, a mini primary where the top six contenders show up for a debate or a form that will be must-see tv. >> maybe it'll be on cnn, but the ratings will be sky high because everyone go on a tune in to see who's going to be taking on the trump bans. take it, and the democratic party actually has many up and coming governors and other officials. a poll just came out that showed that there are four governors that are outperforming joe biden by five

points. in the swing states that are going to decide this race. do you get some of those figures? it's up on stage and then there'll be tons of excitement among everyday americans that at least one of the parties has managed to move on from its octogenarian or near oxygen marion i wonder from voters whether you are overestimating or underestimating the role of a contested primary. >> this close to an election have to weigh, do it, they say, i do wonder what you make of elon musk's commitment to donald trump and the trump vance ticket i think a lot of folks silicon valley think trump is going to win. >> they want to be on the winning team. they think that their business interests will benefit and they're making a decision to back trump now, i'm someone who does not think that trump, it should be back in the oval office. and so it's disappointing but i know some people in those circles and many of them feel like they're joining the winning team particularly in the wake

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