milwaukee and this is cnn it's thursday, july 18, right now on cnn this morning, president biden now off the campaign trail after testing positive for covid, tough timing as more top democrats warn him to get out of the race completely flawless ai officially accept your nomination to be vice president of the united states thanks of america from relative unknown to the gop's vice presidential nominee, jd vance puts himself in the race for 2024 and you senators chase down, the director of the secret service at the rnc, insisting on answers over

saturday's attempt on his life as he is set to accept the gop nomination for president for the third time 5:00 a.m. here in milwaukee, wisconsin, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast, my producers have started writing the times of the morning into my scripts instead of saying x because i keep screwing it up. here a live look outside the fiserv forum. the host of this year's republican national convention, where tonight, again, donald trump is going to accept the republican nomination for president for the third time, running good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us we're not going to start here at the rnc. we are going to start with president biden isolated quite literally with covid. but also isolated politically as pressure mounts on him to bow out of the race for the white house that was

president biden arriving in delaware last night after canceling a campaign event in las vegas, reporters there asking the president to respond to reporting from abc news that senate majority leader chuck schumer told biden it would be best if he dropped out biden's response in audouble over air force 1s engines. schumer's office declined to comment on the specifics of the meeting, saying he quote, conveyed the views of his caucus those questions came just hours after adam schiff became the most prominent democrat to call on biden to step aside the california congressman now the 21st democratic lawmaker to do

so following waves of defections after biden's debate performance three weeks ago we also learned that president biden met with megadonor, jeffrey katzenberg on wednesday, according to semaphore, katzenberg told the president that he could no longer count on big checks from big donors, not to his campaign, not to the dnc, not even to the super pacs supporting them in the evening as republicans cheered on the floor of the rnc in milwaukee, our jeff zeleny reporting this development from one of his senior democratic sources he's being receptive, not as defiant as he is publicly goes on to saying talking about vice president kamala harris, who initially he wondered how she may fare in a campaign should it come to that? i'm told now he's asking questions saying, do you think kamala can win? >> joe biden, more receptive to these calls? joe biden asking, do you think kamala can win? cnn, ben reporting that former

house speaker nancy pelosi spoke privately with biden telling him that polling shows he cannot defeat donald trump. pelosi further warned biden that his presence on the ticket could destroy democrats chances of retaking the house in november, ai house democrat telling me last night that pelosi's quote, working on it and that quote she rarely loses the white house declined to comment on details of cnn's reporting, but did say, quote president biden is the nominee of the party he plans to win. our panel's here joining me now, brad todd, former senior adviser to rick scott, senate campaign. alex thompson, national political reporter for axios. jason osborne, former senior adviser to trump's 2016 campaign. and karen finney, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's 26 teen campaign. welcome to all of you as we cover the rnc in milwaukee and we talk instead about the president of the united states. karen's already been in the hotseat so alex, let me start with you because your there's honestly no one better to talk to in terms of digging into biden world and exactly what is going on and what is your latest reporting

around where the president's head is? jeff zeleny plenty was first last night to report that he is perhaps more receptive to these calls. what do you know? >> well, think about all of these meetings. there were that we're talking about right now with nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, hakeem, jeffries thing to remember. they were all last week. the fact that they're coming out now and joe biden has still been publicly defiant shows you a little bit of where his head and the truth is that you can have almost every democrat in congress basically speak out. but if joe biden is still at his core, believes that he is the most electable democrat to take on donald trump. he is going to stay in this race. there's almost a religious conviction among him and his inner circle. and unless you give him he irrefutable polling evidence that the other democrat would be more electable. i just don't see how he gets out of this race. now, maybe that evidence exists, but it's also very difficult. how can you pull a hypothetical joe biden does not want to be sitting on his couch on the night of november 5th, having seen

donald trump win and not having been the nominee, you saw, i'm talking about this. george stephanopoulos at the very least, he wants to be the guy to take on trump. and how do you get him to move off of that position then supposed to injection mirror trying and they tried several days ago. but clearly, that has not worked. >> so i mean, the reporting from from geoff is that he has gone from asking from and commonly can't win to saying can kamala harris, when i mean, that's to your point, you think that's the thing that changes him numbers that would clearly show someone else doing better? >> yes. >> i think if someone were to unambiguously absolutely show that someone else had a better chance guns homes that would be the only thing that can move is don't know if it's possible and i think the other piece of this though, having been with candidates when you have to make tough decisions, there has to be an i'm not saying he's getting out, so let me just be clear there has to be a pathway. >> you can't mean visited, just everything you're saying in terms of the data, there's also the recognition, okay.

it's not if you get to the place where you decide it can't be me all this you know, george clooney and public sort of saying you shouldn't be in is not the way to actually get him to say it okay, i'm going to do it, right? people have to figure out how do you honor the fact that he has been an excellent president and as you know, had so many successes, and the second thing i would say is we were not reporting on it, but he is also hearing from a lot of people who are saying stay in, stay indo i mean, i'm part of a group of prominent black female leaders who will be having a letter come out today, who are saying he was at the naacp? he was at one of those mean we also have a the liz schuler, right. so when you have the other big leader saying, don't get out you know, we're talking about the 20 of 200. >> well, let's go back. this is isn't being the desire to be president, isn't ambition curable only by a pine box? and so joe biden is going good way to put it. >> i have learned that lesson many times and he most distinct way to say it as it did for as

long as possible. and democrats made this bet, they hit a lot of people thought he was too old in 2020 and democrats cleared the field for him, shielded him from a long grueling primary campaign and installed him as the nominee. >> they asked for this. this was a problem a long time to make. >> well, jason osborne on the polling question to what alex was saying that he needs to see polling that shows other people would do better. the trump campaign is actually doing that polling. and if my understanding from talking to sources behind the scenes here is correct they see very clearly that they would rather run against joe biden, then camila harris. it the race seems to change in certain ways. it's a different campaign but i guess i'm missing. republicans are clearly seeing the polling that i guess joe biden is not wanting to see well, i mean, i think the hard part on polling and its situation like this is that the vice president has been untested. i mean, you see this all the time and presidential campaigns and primaries before somebody actually gets in the race, they're numbers can be very high, but once they become the target, i mean, i learned

there's very well with dr. carson. we were kind of doing really well for a long time and then all of a sudden, but we all know know button had a problem before the debate. he had a 38% approval rating for the bait kamala harris owns that approval rating to and that was a choice as well, instead of being a bipartisan centrist administration, they gave the left almost everything they wanted and so that's where they get in this box. >> i just say that after what happened saturday, can we please not talk about pine boxes? that seems a little inappropriate? >> short. fair enough. i said it. i think i took what he had to say as the idea that you would eventually pass if natural causes, joe buttons going to be president. to last day possible from the president. that's that's that's a fact. everyone's known that he's been running since 1987. i karen, i think it's totally appropriate at him for where we are not talking about political violence ending ending anyone. let's be clear, alex. >> well, and speaking of joe biden's ambition, if you actually read his memoir before he ran for president, do you have an eight? he admits that one of his old school instructors brought out an essay from when he was literally an elementary school

about how he wanted to be president one day. >> but what's that his essence? >> let's watch briefly, alex, because i want you to weigh in on this quickly before we go to break. joe biden has evolved in saying what would get him out of this presidential race. and we kind of stacked it all together so you can kind of see his evolution from that. george stephanopoulos interview to yesterday, what's watch? >> for more, mining cannot sit you get out of the race. i've got the race and lord almighty is not coming down. unless they came back and said, there's no way you can win a say could hit by a train. yeah. i had some medical condition in emerged if somebody doctors came to me, said you got this problem, that problem this medical condition that might emerge was that how you explain that? >> why is he saying that i think he is literally trying to come up with a better answer that unless god tells me to drop out of the race, i'm not going to, i think this is just the fact is that doctor or sorry dr. o'connor joe biden's longtime doctor has

cleared him for duty, is also very, very personally close to joe biden, has been with him for a long, long time, sees him regularly, also help treat his son, beau biden. >> i think this is not i think some democrats are trying to see au joe biden's opening the door a little bit with these answers. that is not what's happening join just trying to come up with a better answer, then we'll have a god tells me i might. >> he's not because if he acknowledged that, if he says i'm not fit for duty than he's not fit to serve till the end of the term. he immediate. easy if you're not good enough to run, you're not good enough to stay and so that's, that's the problem he's not he's not creating an answer here for he where he's willing to acknowledge that he's not up to this. >> and i would just acknowledge he's been doing an excellent job. this is a man who literally helped negotiate to get the first round of hostages out of gaza. and i've been to israel and that is what israelis to a person would tell you. so we can, let's not say this man is not up to the job, are doing the job. >> i'm with you. let's keep doing the race. >> 100%. >> yes. republicans unified here. karen, i think but for different reasons anyway, we

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honestly. brad, todd, what did you make of jd vance's speech? >> you know, i thought was a pretty big moment for the republican party in general beyond this election realignment happens among voters organically, but parties have to choose it. and i think last night jake the vance added a lot of purpose to trump's populism. and he did something else that trump has not been able to do for himself. and that's sort of allow room for disagreement many times during his speech, he talked about ways we might disagree, ways he might disagree with other people, how the party was a big mint that's a very new key of music for donald trump campaign. >> we also pulled together his ii, of course et grew up in ohio, but has these family ties in appalachia. he talked about the rust belt states repeatedly that donald trump is going to obviously need to win if he wants to be president united states president biden would need to end to hold the oval office. here's a little bit more of a taste of his speech and how we talked about that oh, wait i know. >> you guys were going to chill

with the ohio love. we're going to win michigan to hear. so it's about the auto worker in michigan. it's about the factory worker and wisconsin, it's about the energy worker in pennsylvania and ohio is the factories of ohio, pennsylvania michigan, and wisconsin. all the forgotten communities in michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, and ohio. and every corner of our nation so, as a. michigan fan, myself, i am skeptical from anyone if anyone from ohio, but that's borne his i mean, his points very obvious, 100%. i mean, this isn't something that jd vance hasn't talked about previously, right? i mean, this isn't just a token appeal to most americans heard it before they haven't. and i think you've seen over the last couple of days some of that message resonating through. we had the teamsters guy speech was really impactful. i mean, this is my ninth convention, and i don't think i've seen this kind of energy two days before the president speaks, are the nominees speaks, and then one day when the vice

president speaks, the energy last night was amazing using and his speech really resonated with a lot of folks. and i think, you saw that in some of the organic chance that were coming out and his message about his struggle growing up with his grandmother, raising him and his mother, that really, you could see tears in a lot of people's eyes when they saw that and i think what we're seeing now is you've seen a toning down of jd vance's speak and he's really addressing what happened in his life all right. >> well, coming up next here on cnn this morning, we have lost my teleprompter, so i'm going to try to figure out what our t's is coming up next we're assessing the damage rebuild all those new york's governor tours the city upstate. >> it was hit by a tornado plus days after the assassination attempt on his life donald trump set to take the stage at the rnc tonight five good.

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biden took the donations of blue collar workers, gave them hugs and even kisses those past rnc speeches you saw there, donald trump has not shied away from going after his opponents in pretty classic trump fashion. but after his brush with death on saturday, sources tell cnn the speech he plans to give at the rnc is vastly different than the one that he initially drafted. and they say it will focus on a message of unity, trump 2024. adviser jason miller told me this yesterday when somebody tries to kill you, you have an assassination attempt. of course, is going to change your life, is going to change your outlook. and i think that's even what you're going to see, what the president's speech tomorrow. i think he's going to talk about his firsthand experience, but also how this applies to what's going on in society today. president trump, i think is kind of a very powerful message.

>> joining us now, former republican congressman from illinois, rodney davis, congressman. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for so listen, we saw a little bit of what donald trump was like. >> we all know what he is usually like. and i think the question that we have all been asking is, how much has this really changed him in a way that is going to carry through? grew because we've seen some of the resigns last night, for example, on the floor of the convention saying, you know, mass deportations now, et cetera. i mean, some of the more divisive rhetoric is still on display but bottom line, this is a man who had a brush with death and it does really i? mean, i've hesitated to make this comparison. i had a brain tumor myself and wrestled as i was going in for surgery. what was this going to mean for my life, it changed me. and this situation was so much more dramatic. i can only imagine that he must really be different, at least for right now well, looking at the aftermath of not just the assassination attempt, i think donald trump changed the way he campaign after that first

debate two he has been a more calm more of a candidate who wants to talk about how he can help unify the country. >> but that was nuclearized after the assassination tenacious attempting in case you, you know, you were there the morning that me and my friends had to run from bullets on a baseball field and i can tell you from personal experience, it does change who you are. it does, it does change you for the rest of your life. there's not a day that i go by that i didn't wake up and think about that morning, that terrifying experience. and i think as you've seen, convention go on the talk of unity. many of us would have thought maybe that would have waned a little bit for focusing dimension. it hasn't. that's why this convention has been such a success. >> yeah, and we're showing, showing people a little bit from that day back in 2017. and i do remember getting calls and running in the direction of what had happened to all of you, and then covering the game, of course, afterward, we should note your colleague steve scalise, gravely injured in this shooting what do you

what do you think is incumbent on the former president tonight on stage? >> well, i think what jason miller said is going to hold true. he's going to be that different. donald trump, how i mean, i don't think anybody in america, especially in hearing in the media complex, would have ever thought that donald trump, a former president, could be more humanized. but that's exactly what this convention has done. i think it showed different sided donald trump, it's aside that i witnessed when i served with him while in congress, and i think the world's starting to see it. and that's why i think you're seeing donald trump become the clear front runner in this race so brad, i mean, what is your would you be surprised, for example, if we saw a speech from donald trump where joe biden's name was never mentioned. well, i think joe biden's name will be mentioned, but i think you're going to see a very different tone from donald trump tonight. when the two, these two men, they're there, they're old war horses, right? and they've the public knows a lot about them, have very detailed opinions and the key voters in this election not happy with

either one and what that means, the tie break, we will be which one of these guys can show a second act? it's very hard for a seasoned elected official to show a second act. i think tonight you're going to see a second act from donald trump. i think you're going to see more reflective, more unifying donald trump that might be the thing he needs to focus this election on the future. and that's always the challenge presidential elections america are one on the future, not on the past when you have two incumbents is very tempting to run on the past. i think tonight's his best chance to move this to the future. >> alex thompson. one thing, honestly, we haven't heard yet from donald trump on camera is his sort of reflections or experienced explaining of his experience of what happened on saturday. we have he has done he did some interviews. he called a salena zito, who was at the rally and very close to everything that happened. i he talked to the new york post, you know, we have a little bit of that, but we haven't heard him actually say it. we saw his face on monday night when he first came to the crowd was remarkably different. one i'm

listening honestly for his recollections of the day. >> are you watching for that? and what else are you looking for? >> yeah, absolutely. there's a real question of how authentic this really is when we're in a presidential campaign, how much is this is tactical versus genuine? i mean, i feel like i've been hearing about the coming trump pivot. now for ten in years, but also an assassination attempt is a traumatic thing that can really affect someone and the thing is the trump campaign has been very strategic about making little tweaks around him throughout this convention. the fact that he had his granddaughter speak last night and referred to him as a grandpa trump, who is often really tried to make this alpha male strength versus not, versus weakness the fact that they are letting him soften his image at all, which is something he has resisted clearly is a strategic decision. >> it's interesting. i mean, it's stuck out to me when jd vance last night on stage talked about donald trump

giving his son's kisses on the jake. what ami was a little bit like oh, that feels a little bit awkward, but it does underscore you're humanizing point. >> all right, let's turn back now to president biden. >> he is off the campaign trail following a covid diagnosis. biden facing growing pressure to leave the race for the white house, and that has been coming privately from democratic leaders, including the former house speaker, nancy pelosi. and according to abc, from senate majority leader chuck schumer pelosi and schumer, it seems have been convinced by bad polling. the new york times reports that according to a poll from blue rose research, affirm that formed from but no longer affiliated with future forward a super pac supporting mr. biden just 18% of voters and only 36% of people who voted for mr. biden in 2020 believe he's mentally fit and up to the job of being president. mr. schumer, according to the democrat close to him, was also given data from a leading democratic super pac showing mr. biden's deficit growing to five

percentage points or more in the must-win states of pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. and his deficit in three other key states, nevada, georgia, and arizona, outside the margin of sampling error. congressman davis these not i mean these numbers are devastating for him and yet he is still digging in yeah, certainly this and i think it's indicative of who joe biden is. >> joe biden's always been a fighter. i don't see him exiting this race. i mean, as a republican, i would love to see the democrats open up the process and have an open convention. i would just sit back with popcorn morning be ready to ready to watch what happens. we did this on a smaller scale in 2004 with some unknown states senator running for us senate, brock obama, when we had a great candidate, jack ryan. but the geniuses of the illinois republican party thought, no, we can find better. and then the party, the party leaders at the time, got all this attention and they decided no one in illinois well, it was good enough. they chose alan keyes from maryland to come take on then state senator barack obama. i hope

they open this process actually, i'm thinking about the last segment. >> i got to tell you as somebody who aos, there is a brain tumor survivor who now has a paralyzed left vocal cord and it changed my whole life. thinking, i do hope that the president in his speech tonight former president, i hope we do hear that pivot, but i also hope it's not just about tonight. it's about what happens in the coming months. and so i certainly hope, regardless of what happens with president biden, that if if donald trump has certainly faced a change, i hope it's real, and i hope i hope it maintains itself. i hope we see that we did here even jd vance last night attack joe biden and some pretty harsh ways. so i hope we don't hear that tonight. i hope we hear again a conversation about real differences on the issues karen, one of the things that i you know, it's a very difficult conversation to have, of course, in the wake of an assassination attempt. >> but they're certainly were private conversations about how, if in fact this danger is real and after what happened played out that it made it even

more likely that donald trump becomes president in november if he does manage to show people convinced, people, shall i say that he has changed by this? do you think that makes it that much more likely that he'll win in the fall. >> well, i certainly think it makes it easier for him to make an argument to those double-haters and to those moderates and independents, particularly suburban women who have said consider this deadly. they do not like his tone. they have not like the meanness. they have not liked the attacks. i think those voters are still very concerned when it comes to reproductive freedom. but at the same time, it may create an opening for him. honestly, very interesting. >> alright, coming up next here, republican congresswoman nancy mace joins me to discuss the latest in the investigation into the attempted assassination of donald trump, plus special counsel jack smith, appealing the dismissal of donald trump's classified documents, case, while more on that in our morning round-up if

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joining me now republican congresswoman nancy mace of south carolina. >> she is a member of the house oversight committee, which of course has some jurisdiction and interest in pursuing this matter. congresswoman, thank you very much for being here. >> good morning. >> would you join calls for the secret service director to resign after saturday? >> absolutely. and i'm also urging the oversight committee chairman james comer, to subpoena the director of the secret service whether she's still the director. >> i believe he that was also happened yesterday. and i fully support that she should resign and she got to show up. we had a briefing yesterday. we didn't hear from her on the brief time i was on the call with members of congress. we did not hear from her and she was here and said she shouldn't be in dc getting to the bottom of this everyone running for president should be protected and americans want answers i mean, i will say the conventions are, they have a special classification as national security events and typically the director is expected, i think comer has

asked for her to be to appear in dc on monday, yeah. >> which there was some back-and-forth about because she initially said she couldn't do that. it lasted perhaps i think it was about half an hour before she had reversed course and said, well, actually her schedule will accommodate her showing up on monday. what's your first question for her if in the event that actually unfolds, well, i'm going to get a read out from the briefing yesterday. i'm going to reserve figuring out what questions i want to ask until i know the more information i don't want to speculate. i want to make sure i have all the information and listen to questions from both sides of the aisle because this is something that both sides should care about. in fact, just a month ago, oversight committee was investigating an issue with the secret service under kamala harris. there was an outbreak or a meltdown and it delayed her scheduled by over an hour and so it should be a nonpartisan thing. democrats republicans should be coming together to get to the bottom of it and make sure that whether there are morales shoes protocol issues, hiring issues, figuring out what it is we know that the building wasn't swept. the guy had a ladder, how they climb up on it. there were local rallygoers that were

there telling and informing law enforcement there was someone on the run roof with a rifle, no one doing anything i'd like to hear from all the law enforcement agencies that were on-site and how this how this happened congressman, you are the first female graduate of the citadel. >> there are some republican lawmakers on the right who have suggested that part of the reason we saw what happened on saturday was because of too many he women in the secret service agency. you can see a number of women in the frame as they rushed donald trump. once these shops start to be fired, i think it's important to understand that certainly on i found it important underscore as much as we're talking about the failures at the top of the agency that there was clear heroism from the agents that were on the scene. there. i'm wondering, do you share concerns that some are voicing about these women agents? and their willingness to step in. one of them at apparently protected eric trump, who had to speak out publicly and say that he had faith in her, right. >> now, i've first of all, thank our law enforcement on

the ground who are really willing to cover present then trump with their bodies, put their own lives in danger. number one, we have, please and law enforcement all across the country that put their lives in danger. every single day. and we want to thank them but when it comes to hiring practices, one of the things that i have heard and again, i want to fact check it and make sure that's right, that there are quote is within the secret service about hiring certain and types of people, male, female, et cetera. i want to make sure that we're hiring the best qualified people, regardless of gender, that should be the case and everything, especially you're dealing with national security law enforcement or even our military. so there will likely be questions related to hiring practices. i would imagine on monday, congressman the president tonight it's expected to take a different tone. he has, his advisers have told us that he ripped up his old speech after what happened on saturday, that we are likely to hear a more unifying tone. you have criticized donald trump in the past, at times do you feel

americans will be convinced by him taking a tone such as that after having experienced what it was like in his administration and now his campaign in recent years or not, he literally took a bullet for our country on saturday. i think any kind of moment meant like that changes a man. i think he was built for this moment. i've looked at what he was saying over the weekend, him and melania had a very unifying message. speaker mike johnson conveyed that message from president trump that he wants our party to have a unifying message everywhere we go and talk about and i'll tell you, i come from a purple district last weekend people were literally pulling their cars over on the side of the road, stopping traffic blacks, whites, republicans, democrats, independents everyone had something to say. it was all very positive. people want to see us come together for the betterment of our communities, our states and our country. and he's gonna do that tonight. he's going to unify and this

is a moment, it's a historic moment and i support him. obviously, and he had us on stage last night. we're deeply appreciative. i understand the gravity of this moment. i believe he does too also on politics, president biden obviously facing more pressure from inside his party to step aside at the top of the ticket. if president biden stays at the top of the democratic ticket, do you do republican leaders believe you will hold onto the house of representatives in the fall? >> i do. i think we can have a super majority. now the question is, do we, in when we win in november, i want to make sure that we put our money where our mouth is, that we make good on campaign promises. i've been working really hard for three years the one of the reasons i got into this thing to begin with, as i was tired of politicians saying one thing and then doing another. inflation is very high going to the grocery store is expensive. gas is almost $4 a gallon in south carolina. >> we've got women's issues that we want to address. >> i talked about that a little bit in my speech last night, there are a lot of things that we need to do to make our communities better across the country. and i want to make

sure that we do that. >> all right. congresswoman nancy mace. thanks very much for your time this morning. >> thank you. i really appreciate you being here. >> all right. 52 minutes past the hour. here is your morning roundup. special counsel, jack smith, appealing the dismissal of donald trump's classified documents case, the formal appeal comes just days after judge aileen cannon throughout the case it's against trump. the appeal will be reviewed by judges in the 11th circuit court of appeals french officials save the sun he is clean enough to swim in for the olympics and they are trying to prove it. the paris mayor, anne hidalgo dove in his day to show efforts to clean the river of e coli, are paying off cnn's melissa bell also playing the hero dog and offered her own assessment actually, really not a as many as i thought it would be. >> and feels clean but certainly swivel oh my god okay

then there's this paraguay carrying out the largest cocaine bust in the country's history four tons were found inside a sugar ship i meant to europe. >> this, this is for the video that, that is a lot of cocaine. indeed, jack blacks company rock band tenacious d, has canceled its remaining for dates after band member kyle gass made an onstage joke about the assassination attempt on former president trump both black and gass have since apologized can we talk about the sun for a second? like would you swim in the sense zero chance like, i mean, radical agreement on that front. you what i want to do it every day by every fine doing it justice cnn just reported summable. >> okay. but it's not as smelly as i thought it would be. >> i'm sorry, but that's for you. start it's really even for a golden medal. >> no, thanks i know i know my

gosh. >> okay anyway let's take a moment to talk about something that i think struck a lot of us who were in the hall last night for the rnc and that was gold-star families who addressed the crowd they remember their loved ones, and they also harshly criticized president biden our son corporal hunter lopez, whose named joe biden, has refused to say out loud, was killed on august 26, 2021 he died during joe biden's disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan and during last month's debate, he claimed no service members have died during his administration none not hurt us all deeply he. >> went on to name need 13 service members who were killed

in a suicide bombing during the us withdrawal from afghanistan alex thompson, can you help us understand? i mean, my heart goes out to all of these people for who have lost their family members. obviously, it was also very political in that they had this message against president biden. i remember this withdrawal from afghanistan as well as being a turning point for the president in terms of public sentiment it happened in the late summer of 2021, not that long into the beginning of his term. how do how does the biden team explained? in what these families were there to try to say that they don't feel the president has acknowledged their sacrifices. >> i mean, you're right that his polling has never, ever recovered. if you look at his approval, disapproval rating, it crosses. and at that time, they've gaston withdrawal and has never recovered in terms of what happened last night. this is a completely self-inflicted they're on the president's part in the region has nothing to do with his advisers. this goes to the president himself,

the president is incredibly defensive about his decision to withdraw from afghanistan and the criticism that came after the fact is that joe biden, who is known and has plenty of evidence of having you have great empathy for people in grief. it was clear at the moment that that happened that he did not meet the moment he learned his watch while people came off, while the bodies came off that plane. afterward, the families complained that he was talking too much about his own son, not about their sons. and in response to the criticism because i'm from those families, he did not reach back out and don't trump to quick advantage starting in september of 2021, donald trump was on the phone with these families, meeting with them, spending time with them, and that's why they were on that stage last night, is because joe biden, who is supposed to be this is supposed to be the thing he is greatest yeah. was chewed offensive to reach out to those families. and that's why this is now a political problem.

foremost for the election, au can i, can i just say one point of view that you made that donald trump took advantage of this situation, this is a side of donald trump that a lot of people don't see that this wasn't in his eyes taking advantage of a situation duration. >> this is how he is and there's a lot of instances and you've heard it a couple times over the last few days where he has reached out not wanting the attention of him reaching out and taking care of people. he wanted to do this and that's what these families wanted. they just wanted to acknowledgement that they're sad her face, and that their families sacrifice is meant something to the people that they're serving. >> i mean, look, i think i think it is worth noting that former president trump did denigrate john mccain's pow service. that's reported that he called people, americans who died in world war ii, suckers and losers. he has his own vulnerabilities in terms of meeting to demonstrate what was demonstrated last night. and i

think brad todd the this there have been a number of moments they've been labeling people like this every day americans, right? they've been bringing them into the convention and there have been a number of strong moments around this, but i mean the way that they did this at the convention last night was honestly very powerful. it was a powerful move to me. >> it was conventions are contrived and i don't say that in a bad way. it's important to convey what your, what you want the public to see in the public needs to see what you want them to see. but that's news and it's important. but this was not contrived. these were real people it was raw emotion and it was authentic and to see an authentic moment like that, it's something as scripted as a convention. i think it was moving to everyone. and i think it goes to joe biden's very real problem. he's why he's never recovered from afghanistan. most americans agreed with him that if we should get out of afghanistan, but i felt he did it in competently and then he treated these fans emily says if their sacrifice was acceptable collateral damage, that's a real problem. >> and it just one last point on that, but brad, from my side, but is that last night

when that the father read the names? it was not in the script for him to pause and have the audience read the names and to a person, they read the names out loud and you could see the emotion on the family's faces, the tears coming down the lips, quivering. it was pretty impactful. >> mary well, i appreciate the point that president biden has made a mistake when it comes to these families. >> obviously, kasie, as you mentioned, former president trump has had his own. one thing i would say, i mean, as brad says, conventions about storytelling, and certainly both whether it's a republican convention or democratic convention moments when we honor the sacrifice of people who have lost their loved ones, particularly these goals star families, which again, you'll see that at the democratic convention i hope it's a moment that brings us together as americans to recognize that there are people who are out there fighting for us who make that ultimate sacrifice. >> its part of why i wanted to make sure we touched on it today on the show, i have to say, alright, thank you al