play this for everyone what do we have today with president biden? >> what's he focused on? he's focused on pronouns he's focused on renaming basis. he's focused on dei and here's my favorite. he's focused on building electric tanks. >> has anybody seen any charging stations in the middle east for the for the biden's electric tanks that's republican congressman from florida what do you find on this? does that check out it does not. >> i found that this electric tanks thing is complete fiction. not only is it not biden's favorite, it is not happening. what is true? a tiny kernel of truth is that the army in 2022 came out with a climate strategy in which it called for electrifying some kinds of vehicles, such as tactical vehicles. but there was no push whatsoever to electrify us army tanks. this is completely made up some of this as daniel said, in the

foreign policy talk last night, of the fact check doozy, that was the program. it's good to see you, daniel. thank you very much. a new hour. cnn news central starts now hello, everyone. it is the top of the hour. >> i'm kate bolduan here in milwaukee, wisconsin, live at the republican national convention. >> the final day of the republican gathering here. and the day that donald trump officially accepts the party's nomination, this will be his first speech since the assassination, assassination attempt on him. one, where he promised will the speech will now focus more on unity. but even before that tonight we are now hearing some more from donald trump new video of trump speaking to a crowd here in milwaukee. this is new video obtained by pbs news, showing trump telling the group he got

lucky, and that god was on his side i got lucky guy who was with me, ai in many ways it changes your your attitude, your viewpoint are live and i think honestly but i think you appreciate god even more are really doing something something happened all right that a cabled was there for us in milwaukee. i'm sara sidner with john berman here in new york this morning. we have potentially major shift in the 2024 race as covid has not president biden off the campaign trail for now and we have this new extraordinary reporting from our jeff zeleny that says that biden is now and i'm quoting here more receptive to hearing from the people calling on him to bow out. that comes from a senior democratic adviser. also, according to the adviser he has gone from saying camila cannot win to do you think kamala can

win? let's get right to cnn's priscilla alvarez, who is live in rehoboth beach, where the president is isolating because of the covid diagnosis. priscilla is he receptive enough at this hour mean what are we hearing? as to whether he might bow out, especially given the news of nancy pelosi, chuck schumer and adam schiff well, sara, that is certainly the question on the mind of multiple democratic lawmakers and even donors who have grown increasingly anxious about the president's chances against former president donald trump. >> but two things can be happening at once here and they certainly are. that includes the president being receptive to those conversations, having those private discussions. but simultaneously also being quite defenses sources tell cnn that former house speaker nancy pelosi, showed president biden pulling that he can't defeat the former president, and that it could destroy the chances of democrats running in house

races if he continues down this path those sources didn't indicate whether the former house speaker did ask him to drop out of the race, but the president in that conversation was defensive, sort of noting his own polling. that's jos that he can defeat the former president. and at one point in that conversation, the former house speaker asked to get the president's senior adviser, mike donilon on the phone to walk through the data so you can see some of the tension here within the party happening in this private conversation. now, when asked about this, the white house maintain that president biden is the nominee of the party the end that he can win. the former house speaker's office saying that she went is in california, has been since friday and has not spoken to the president since, but this is the second known conversation. shin between the two. and it is of course notable that this is a high profile democrat that is showing the president polling and polling is important to him. i mean, last week during the nato summit, during his solo news conference, he said that he had not yet seen

polling that shows that he can defeat donald trump many left the door open that if he did, he could be receptive. so certainly you could see that there are so many questions that are still circling the democratic party in terms of what the president's next and it is no small thing that the president had to be pulled off the campaign trail because he was diagnosed with covid. the president was using the those moments, those campaign appearances in nevada, not only to shore up black and latino voters, but also to show that he has the vigor to be on the campaign kane trial, to be the democratic candidate, and to eventually be the nominees. so the president being pulled off of that right? when democrats want him out front certainly a dent in his campaign policy string, right? >> right. as donald trump is getting more and more momentum and he's about to speak tonight at the rnc. what is the president though saying about his covid19 nosis and how he's doing this all happened very suddenly.

>> sara, in fact, just moments before the president was expected at the need event in nevada is when the president or the president of the group came on the stage and said that he couldn't be there because he had tested positive for covid. now the president has since weighed in when he was heading back here to rehoboth, delaware or where he has a residence. take a listen to what he told reporters now the president has had mild symptoms according to a white house official, this is not the first bout of covid for the president. he also how did it in 2022, he received paxlovid, later had a rebound case. the president also receiving paxlovid now and again self-isolating here in delaware priscilla russ, thank you so much. >> appreciate there live for us from rehoboth beach kate joining us now is republican governor of new hampshire,

chris sununu, governor. >> it is good to see you. thank you so much for being here. you are not in the business of giving advice to democrats that's for sure, but what do you make of all of this new reporting that is coming out, especially that the former speaker, nancy pelosi, met with biden to show him polling that she and the reporting isn't she told him that the polling shows he cannot beat donald trump? what do you make of it? well, look? >> i i was on i was on this very show cnn over a year ago. and i said biden would not be the nominee on the ticket and no one loves an i told you so moment more than a politician. but i think this is the reality. i think the pressures are really there. there's a lot of emphasis and a lot of positive unity on the republic looking sight as republican, i think that's great that we're having a tremendous week, but as soon as the conventions done around monday, tuesday, all the attention is going to focus right on joe biden. and they're going to say, what are you going to do now? because now we're in real trouble. and as was just noted, you guys have

talked about he's they're trying to they're finally forcing him to look at the data. so i still very much believe biden will not be the nominee. kamala harris will be there. and my warning to republicans is, don't take that for granted. that's not an easy race. if kamala were smart, she's going to pick a republican or a democrat governor like a shapiro or andy bashir, something like that. that's a new refresh ticket. it's a short timeline, but don't count them out by any means in and report publicans up and down the ticket. are going to have to run hard to close this deal so we can win in november you have been around politics your whole life. >> you have run hard campaigns when a, when a campaign gets to the point of reporting that's coming out like this can i campaign fight through it successfully flip through it. you have reporting coming out and this pelosi and schumer and then on top of it the president is authe campaign trail because he has covid no, you bring up a

great point once it hits leadership, once the leadership has absolutely acknowledged that they cannot win, what that is now told all of america is they don't even believe in their own ticket, right? >> so anyone, anyone on the fence is going well, they don't even like their own guys. there's a question whether they're going to house supportive, they're going to be clearly that that that confidence is just cracked right through the party, the democrat party is in a complete mess right now if biden wants to stay, he's going to stay and that's going to be a real problem for them. i'd love it if he stayed because i think he's very easy for republicans to beat, but my, my role here is to hopefully find republicans what's really happening? on the ground. and if the powers that be in the democrat party can convince him to move off it's going to be a very different race here in just a month and it's going to be a nail-biter. i still think trump can win. i still think republicans can be very successful, but we're going to have to work really, really hard. take nothing for granted. i think jd vance is a great pick he brings a whole different kind of energy and background to the top of the ticket. that'll that'll help a lot of our congressional senate

governor seats, even the state seats on the republican side, cal benefit from that. but at the end of the day, if the republic, if the democrats actually get their act together, we've got a race on our hands and i've said it, i said i said it for over a year. i just i just think that that's that's the reality we're going to be facing in november. it can be a wild hundred days as if the last hundred hasn't been wild the big speech tonight the former president accepting his acceptance speech, accepting the nomination, it's going to be his first real substantive, real speech since the assassination attempt. >> one that since he has said himself that he now wants to, he's putting up the speech and he wants to focus more on unity you have not always been a fan of donald trump. you have shader, shared your her criticism of him and his policies and his and his red rector with me. yeah, there you rhetoric but what does unity

look like? do you think from donald trump, do you do you believe that i mean, what are you expecting from tonight? >> yeah i think unity from the former president is unity for america, and it's not just going to be a message shoe the maga base or one part of the party clearly, everybody has come on board on the republican side, folks that had their doubts and all that sort of thing. folks like myself who worked really hard to get another nominee in there. and we worked charter. we had our primary and the voters chose, unlike the democrats on the republican side, the voters made their choice, wasn't my choice, but the voters made their choice. and now it's down to a versus b. that's biden versus trump today. so i think the opportunity for the former president is to talk to all of america to even talk to those democrats that are still hanging on the democrat ticket it with all fingernail saying, please give me a better option than joe biden. he's going to be talking to them. he's going to be talking to a lot of folks in the rust belt in michigan and in pennsylvania back in georgia, all those swing states, those folks that might have walked away in 2020, but

realize that we got to bring this case country together. so i think it's going to be a good speech. i think what you've seen in the last hundred days well, even well before the assassination attempt, the debate showed a sense of professionalism from his campaign, a sense of discipline, if you will, on messaging, not just being completely blustery and going out there and just shooting from the hip. he's keeping his measures fairly controlled. and that's exactly what you want to see an a candidate at this point. and i think it's going to resonate tonight, be very successful you mentioned jd vance. you think he's a good running mate? one thing that we heard from jd vance last night, especially in talking about the economy, is the way he he pitched it. it did not sound it did not sound like something you'd hear from donald from donald trump, from a republican he went after the wall street barons. he went after big business he one line that really stuck was america's ruling class ruling class wrote

the checks and then it was our communities that paid the price trashing free trade. i mean, this was, this was all a bernie sanders which was noted last night afterward is that is, that is that going to have broad appeal? is that the new position of the new republican party? do you see that a successful, you know i don't know if those how broad of an appeal those exact positions have. but what does have an appeal is the contrast between him and donald trump. they clearly get along and what you, what you're you're seeing is not someone that just agrees necessarily with every position in every stands at donald trump has taken. or i've taken or anyone's taken, and that's okay. it saying that within the party we can have a variety of ideas and a variety of approaches here. so donald trump clearly born with a silver spoon in his mouth and obviously at a lot of economic advantages, jb didn't and talking about that that background and about that contrast that connects with folks at struggled with drug addiction, had that have been kind of suffering in poverty for too many years. he's lived

it. that's a real life experience that could now be at 1,600 pennsylvania avenue. that's an amazing opportunity that i think a lot of families are going to connect with. and yes, it's not donald trump's story, it's not every position but every republican necessarily wants to take. but saying we're going to put these ideas on the table. we're going to challenge the status quo. we're going to challenge that establishment. and i think 24 is all about that. people want the washington establishment to washington elite, to be disrupted and challenge that's why trump won in 16. i think that's why he's going to do very well again, in 24 does that kind of nature and that kind of disruption, i think that as a team they bring to the table and resonates very well with a lot of spectrum of american families governor sununu, good to see you. >> thank you. >> john thank you all right. donald trump is set to take the stage tonight. is will be as kate was saying, his first public speech since surviving an assassination attempt. we've got new good reporting on what we expect to hear and then breaking just moments ago, house minority leader hakeem jeffries really says response

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now is democratic senator alex padilla from california senator. thank you so much for coming coming. >> adam schiff, who is running for the other senate seat in your state. >> he has called on biden to step aside, and now you have this reporting from the former house speaker, nancy pelosi you have stuck with biden throughout, but do you think the walls are closing in around him now i do not. >> kate. i mean, i have tremendous respect for nancy pelosi. have a good relationship with my soon to be colleague, adam schiff, i just happen to disagree when it comes to their assessment. i'm not just looking at the numbers, looking at the polls. i'm talking to people as well. here's what i take away. number one, there's a big disconnect between the chattering class and the working class in terms of what's going on with this race. this is going to be a close race in november. this is a worst for you in this

election, not just the record and the leadership of president biden and the biden harris administration. but the contrast couldn't be clear and were hearing it all week long. this republican convention what's at risk should donald trump win? and this november, so the polls show, but joe biden more than in the ballgame, what we need to do is make sure every democrat is doing their part for the next hundred and nine days and we will win this november there is the chattering class, but nancy pelosi is anyone who has watched her followed her and knows her career. she has much more she's not chattering. she is a tactician and she is one of the smartest, most astute politicians out there. she knows the way the wind is blowing and she knows how to read it. if you have nancy pelosi saying to joe biden that he cannot be trump and the biden could destroy democrats chances of winning the house in november. how do you think he can he can successfully sustain

this campaign? >> again, i hear you. my assessment is very different. look, it's been several weeks now since the debate that started this whole conversation, a debate performance that president biden himself has acknowledged was that his best night. but what have we seen since then? not just a successful nato summit? the, speeches and the unscripted press conference at people were asking for, we've had energetic rallies in north carolina and wisconsin. and in michigan and beyond for anybody wondering if joe biden is up for the job, just take a good look. he's doing it and look, we've also had a primary season? so there's 14 million democrats that voted unless or until joe biden decides and says otherwise, he is our nominee. and yes, if every democrat pulls their weight in terms of campaigning voter outreach organizing, and mobilizing to turn out the

vote. we will win this november we also have new reporting that biden is appearing more receptive to listening to calls, to step aside. not that he's close to agreeing with it at all, but the way that it's put is that it's a senior democratic adviser telling cnn the here's the quote from this adviser. he's gone from saying camila can't win to do you think at kamala can win? it's still unclear where he's going to land, but he seems to be listening do you have that sense that he's listening look in my conversations with the president, he hasn't gone there. >> these private conversation, folks have to record it makes you wonder what the full context is look joe biden's been around the block more than once or twice, so he's going to not hesitate to the server. >> here's the thing. if none of this was true, if all of this was wrong and if all of this was off, i mean, we would

hear more firm and stronger denial if this is not what nancy pelosi said, if this is not the sense amongst smart politicians who are real allies and friends of joe biden saying this to him they would, we would have the firm denials, which we don't look i hear you i hear you, but here's i wish we were paying equal attention, kate, to, for example, the letter that president biden center congress won more than a week ago after a couple of weeks have hearing it from folks, he made his decision, he sent a letter to congress that he is absolutely committed not just to the campaign, but committed to winning wish we would spend equal time assessing joe biden's performance during nato. >> and a tremendous agreement it's necessary agreements that came out of that. again, we're here at the republican convention in milwaukee. look at the contrast under president biden united states has retaken

its leadership, leadership position in the world. if donald trump were to get elected this november, we go backwards not just on democracy domestically but democracy around the globe. the stakes are too high. this november, we need to make sure we're maximizing the next 109 days communicating that contrast, president biden's record. president biden's leadership to the future, to voters this november the president also in the midst of all valdes senator has gotten covid, so he's now in isolation for the next couple of days in delaware. >> how does that impact the campaign? >> yeah. look at unfortunate minor setback for the moment but it shouldn't surprise anybody. like i represent the great state of california where covid, numbers are on the upswing again, because it's summer and we're out and about but don't think that president biden having to isolate for. a few days because of covid is going to keep them from working. remember, he's got a

significant day job. let's not lose sight of that. and he'll continue to communicate to not just members of congress leaders around the country and the voters and whatever way he can, including virtual, including radio, including a lot of but other things he's going to continue to stay active. during both the work of the president of the united states and the work of the democratic nominee for president of the united states for four more years. >> senator alex padilla. always good to see you. thank you for coming in sir. >> thank you, kate all right. >> there were tears mixed with harsh criticism of president biden as a republican convention. gold star families who lost loved ones in the afghanistan withdrawal took to the stage. that's ahead you have chronic kidney disease. >> you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with par sega because they're places like to be for seekers can cause

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minutes. prime members can listen to biden things ad-free on amazon music and emotional moment at the republican convention, gold-star families on their loved ones who were killed during the afghanistan withdrawal and they placed the blame directly on president biden's seen as tausche bertrand at the pentagon with the latest on this. >> good morning. and tausche good morning, john. >> yeah. this was really highlighting one of the lowest and darkest moments of joe biden's presidency when a suicide bomber killed 13 us service members as well as 60 afghans in a suicide bombing at abbey the gate during that very chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. and some of the families of those service members did speak at the rnc last night and they say that they blame joe biden really for the deaths of their loved ones, something of course that president biden has repeatedly said was not the fault of his own, that the u.s was basically forced to withdraw from afghanistan because of a deal that president trump had made

during his administration with the taliban. but take a listen to what some of the families said just last night about how devastating they say this has been for them over the last few years while joe biden has refused to recognize their sacrifice donald trump spent six hours in bedminster with us. jill biden said the withdrawal from afghanistan was an extraordinary success. >> joe biden may have forgotten that are children died, but we have not forgotten donald trump has not forgotten we're not turning the other service members bodies were returned to the u.s. >> in dover delaware, joe biden met the plane, but he made the occasion more about his son loss of cancer than our sons and daughters, loss on his watch worse than that. because never said their names out loud and during during last it's month's debate, he claimed no

service members have died during his administration now the national security council did release a statement saying, quote, president biden cares deeply about our service members, their families and the immense sacrifices they have made and they noted the president biden did attend that dignified transfer of those service members at dover in 2021. >> but look, this whole event last night was really an implicit rebuke to president biden's repeated statements that president trump does not respect us service members harkening back many times as he has during the campaign to those comments that trump's former chief of staff said that he made about service members that they were suckers and losers of course, something that president trump has denied at many times, john. >> all right, natasha bertrand at the pentagon, thanks to tausche thank you so much, john. >> let's start right there joining us right now, cnn political commentator, former communications director for hillary clinton, karen finney, and cnn senior political commentator and former special assistant to president george w bush scott jennings is here with us that was

heart-wrenching. to listen to in the hall, you could see people crying, their stories, their pain. so real it was a brutal what they said against against joe biden went from the human level, the impact is the same and all of us, it is absolutely horrible. >> absolutely. but the point of it being on the stage is that they wanted to have a political impact as well. >> what as a democrat, what is the political impact pack? do you see? and how do democrats counter it? >> look, i think many democrats would acknowledge that the withdrawal from afghanistan while it was an important step, it was, it was messy, it was not appropriate. and obviously, any loss of life is unacceptable. and certainly, i think how could you not hear their stories and not just be heartbroken? my heart breaks for them and i, you know, if there's a way to rectify those situation, i hope the president takes it. i don't know what that would be at this moment because i'm not sure they would want it. but it was also

looking important moment for the former, former president trump to be able to have the acknowledgement that they are supporting him. and that's honestly that's what conventions are about right there about telling the story, about the individual, about what their platform stands for. about the issues. and so that was was an opportunity, a very poignant opportunity for them to do so you've seen it, you've been to a lot of conventions. >> you spend a lot of republican conventions what do you think of that moment and the impact would be i have never seen something that devastating and impactful on a convention stage. it was the atmosphere in this arena people were emotional. >> i mean angry heartbroken for these families. and it was the most searing indictment of joe biden i could imagine when this happened, by the way, in august of 2021, this was the original sin of joe biden's job

approval dropping when the afghanistan withdrawal happen, he went underwater and he's never come back and there's really two issues. there's the, you know, he failed as commander in chief on the withdrawal, but then he failed as commander in chief on the acknowledgment of these families. they don't remember them. they don't say their names, they haven't properly memorialize these soldiers and i've not i've not seen anything at a convention that will linger on the way that will over 25 years ago, one of these things yeah, it really was it had it had an impact. it really did i just had democratic senator alex padilla. >> he is a, he is a supporter of joe biden's, of course. >> and he is still with joe because i wanted to get his sense. what is also potentially really important reporting coming out about the private conversations that nancy pelosi has had with joe biden to say she sees to show him pulling

that. she says says shows he cannot win against biden against donald trump padilla said the following. >> i just happen to disagree with it when it comes to the assessment, i'm not just looking at the numbers and looking at the polls. >> i'm talking to people as well. >> yeah. >> can these two things be true? >> yes, absolutely. and i think it's important we've been talking a lot about the high-profile people who, who boldface names, who have voice their opposition. but president biden does have very strong support still within members of congress, as we've been talking about, 20 members out of about 200, i can tell you that have come out publicly, but that makes a big difference whether or not you're willing to say it publicly and i can tell you that there's a letter that's going to be coming out today from a prominent group of african-american women leaders. we saw the president at the naacp this week at one though. so there are groups who are trying to rally around the

president and make their voices heard and so i think we need to hear both of it. look, here's the other thing and i've said this before if the president makes the decision that he wants to get out, which i don't see that happening because he still has the delegates. >> right it's not it's we need to give him the space to make that decision. >> and so that's what anthropos who has been trying to do and maybe this isn't the next step in it. >> i don't know i don't so i know scott wants to get out. no, i'm actually not going to let scott get in the breaking news that you have actually been waiting for yes. has been it has been confirmed. i will now read it and i will fully acknowledged. i do not know why he is so excited, but i'm going to read it nonetheless. good because i like you sometimes whole cogen, au according to kristen holmes, with single-source approval, hold cogen will speak at the final on the final night of the republican national convention in milwaukee. warning to a source familiar with his

schedule why this making your mind first of all, my childhood hero, yes. grew up watching whole cogen. i think it's super awesome. i don't get is really funny to something about this convention. >> the republicans have become the fund party we had amber rose, we've got whole your definition where one party now. and what you're going to do, brother, with a largest arms in the world, encourage you to get your ballot in a timely fashion. >> that's the point i didn super fun. >> and a throwback. what's hope coke and getting them? >> superstar celebrity look. >> i remember the days when the most famous person that came to our convention was like jon voight. now we have instagram stars. we've got a whole cogen, we've got the ufc where the fund party where the party america. if the fund party, karen, you can come i'm here just saying you're ms moment.

i know. >> you're fine. he's actually levitating. i mean, it was it is something and i needed a new five-hour energy shot and i just got it got thank you both you say never do anything for you. you see what i did. i got we got to nice forgot it can for me move on, sara, please take it. >> it seems to me that you guys are in the middle of a wwe smackdown and i am concerned wait wait wait important important. if we were who would win, sara, my mind. okay okay isolating and off the campaign trail because he tested positive for covid. what might this mean for his candidacy? see for his campaigning and where do we stand in this country with the numbers of people getting covid, we will have details from our sanjay gupta ahead for kids?

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81-years-old, but kind of impact does that have? his age, have on the fact that he has covid now yeah. >> i think when you're this age, there is going to be more cause for concern. >> i mean, that's remained true. but as you pointed out, i mean, it's very different time in the pandemic compared to few. years ago, there's also the concern about with repeated infections the possibility of long covid later on. so there are these concerns, but overall, i think the indications are pretty favorable. what we know is that he had some symptoms, upper respiratory symptoms he was feeling pretty tired that's what prompted the covid tests in the first place did not have a fever, is oxygenation it is okay. so those are important indicators. he's also vaccinated he's boosted and he's had covid before back in 2022. all of that provides layers of protection one thing sara the guidance on what to do if you get a positive covid test has changed so many times, we're getting a lot of questions about this so

basically, think of it like this when you are likely to be country tejas, that is when you should be in isolation. if people have symptoms, they should be in isolation and they shouldn't come out until they are fever-free for at least 24 hours without medications. again, he doesn't have a fever, so that's not really a concern. after you come out of isolation, the recommendation is five days with a mask that's the current recommendations from the cdc. one thing to look out for it, he is taking a medication known as pat paxlovid and he took this before back in 2022, it can be helpful. but one of the things that they're going to be probably looking out for is something known as rebound, doesn't happen often, but it can happen. it happened to president biden had happened to dr. fauci in the past. basically, he tested positive and then he tested negative for several days. then he tested positive again. that's something that they're probably going to look out for to make sure he doesn't have resurgence of symptoms. they may not be testing him

regularly because it's not part of the recommendations. but they may be looking out for a recurrence of symptoms, sara. >> all right. and can just give us a sense of what the current status is of covid in the country right now, you talked about the things that you need to do if you get it, because more people are, are we're getting a spike yeah. >> there's a spike. i mean, if you look at the map we see these summer spikes with covid that's different than for example, with flu. it's not a huge spike, but it is they're about 45 states now all showing that the numbers are actually increasing. that's a number of infections overall. the truest sort of measures really people who are going to the hospital, going to the er are going to but being admitted to the hospital and that's gone up in some places as well primarily in the west and in the south. so it's something that people are keeping an eye on. but i will say this this is coming off some of the lowest numbers of covid in may of this year that we've seen really since the beginning of the pandemic. so while the numbers are going up, they're starting from a

very low baseline, something to keep an eye on over the next few weeks and months sara i know you will. and thank you so much for coming on again this morning for us. sanjay, can this morning with growing calls from higher ranking democrat that president biden bow out of the presidential race. new reporting and, he may be starting to open up these been more receptive to hearing this type of thing chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta. >> listen wherever you get your podcasts, the best things in life come into two scoops of ice cream, two thumbs up, and now quite any phone when you switch to consumer cellular and get two months of service free, that's right, two months free all the fast, reliable nationwide coverage make this switch today this is my coffee shop. >> we just moved into a bigger space, brought on another employee, an order new branded gear for the team. it was so easy just chose my products, added our logo and placed my order. bring your own team

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are quote speculative and uninformed. >> that's what our friend carl bernstein might call a non denial, denial. >> there was earlier reporting that jeffries went to the president with concerns from the democratic caucus with us now, david frum, staff writer for the atlantic, former speech for george w bush. i just want to ask you about a bit of new reporting from jeff zeleny here, who says that blue rose research was a democratic research for ms sending around research, talking about concerns among down-ballot democrats that say, quote defending biden's fitness for office is an untenable position for down ballot democrats what do you think about that well, i find the whole political year, so strange 2024 tight us job market since the 90s, maybe since the 60s inflation is now subsiding. >> in fact, we may be heading into disinflation and even price drops. housing starts up, marriages, up number of births, up american troops in combat, zero it's the safest and most

prosperous year america's scene. and the fourth ever president since i don't know, maybe wrongly reagan in 1984 meanwhile, that the republican convention, there's an attempt to sell in histology for the trump administration, who's fourth-year, was the most disastrous and american history since 1932. and it's a fascinating contrast and puzzle. how can the one conventions held nostalgia for when things are terrible? and the other convention cannot say well satisfaction when things are good it is an industry could under debris. >> sure. i'm one that democrats are facing in need to face and come to some kind of conclusion with, i was happy to mention that you are a speech for george w bush, won the one hand because i think it's a lost art and i'd love to see it comeback. but number two, because it means you listen to language and he listened to war as maybe more closely than most. you've noted. when you're listening to president biden, you hear a lot of i me what do you mean by that? >> and what's the importance?

>> when you are asked the question, why do you want to serve another term as president? your answer needs not to be about what you, how you feel, and what you want to accomplish. it's how you can serve i think often the story, a colleague of mine at the bush white house told she was walking on the beach and saw sign those advertising fires behind an airplane instead, jill come back by miserable without you. and she thought love jack and she's got bad message jack too much about you, not enough about her. >> when you are selling a second term, it has to be about you. >> it has to be about us. and i'm president biden's phone into a bad habit of time talking about himself and the things he wants to accomplish and do you mean that specifically in reference over the last few weeks for the calls for him to withdraw from the race. >> when he says things and i'm paraphrasing here, like who's done more on foreign policy? then i have that kind of thing that's exactly the kind of thing. >> the answer to why do you want to serve another four

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