continues. john identifying the mindset of the shooter is a key part of that that is important. >> new information. zach cohen, thanks for digging will let you get back to a keep us posted. a new hour of cnn, new central starts now breaking news. delta airlines now pausing think it's global flights scheduled because of the tech outage wreaking havoc on airlines, businesses, hospitals, and emergency systems around the world. >> we have live coverage of the chaos that has caused. >> so donald trump's acceptance speech, a caps in historic week. why some democrats though seen this as a sign heat is beatable by somewhat at least. and new voices calling for president biden to drop out of the race this morning, including a new democratic senator, one biden an aid, apparently saying it feels like it's game over.

i'm john berman with sara sidner. we're in new york. kate bolduan is in milwaukee and this is cnn new central cnn breaking news we of course begin with the breaking news. >> there were very good chance that your life is going to be touched by this at some point, a massive global tech outage impacting businesses and governments around the world and stranding millions of passengers at airports. that one is boston logan international, just stuffed with people with nowhere to go because the flights aren't going out but minutes ago, delta announced it has paused. it's global flight scheduled because of the issues giving you a live look there again, at frustrated passengers. this is happening all over the world. the white house now looking into this global issue microsoft says the underlying cause of the adage has been fixed, but the backlog i mean, you could see it with your own eyes so cnn's tom foreman is in washington, isabel rosellas at the world's busiest airport which is atlanta's hartsfield, jackson international airport. >> a mess on a good day. anna

stewart is at heathrow airport in london. let's get to tom foreman first, tom what's going? on here? >> what's going on is that it seems like this fix is is there, but it has to spread to all these systems and exactly what you were pointing out, this is affected so many different places out there at the airports are easy to look at, harder to see are the banks, the hospitals that are now oh, announcing that they're delaying surgeries are saying if you have an appointment today, don't come in or come in, but be prepared to wait various all sorts of services like 911 services and various places have been affected. and in some cases they haven't been directly affected. but something near it has been affected. now, the ceo of crowdstrike which is the company that had this update that apparently triggered. some if not all of this with microsoft appeared on nbc a short while ago and he said, yeah, the fix is in at this point so we know what the issue

is were resolving and have resolved the issue now it's recovering systems that are out there and we identify this very quickly and remediated the issue and assistance come back online as they're rebooted there coming up and they're working now we are working with each and every customer to make sure that we can bring them back online. >> but that was the extent of an issue. the issue in terms of a bug that was related to are update so the problem now is the backlog in all of this look, if you run a grocery store in, somebody shows up too by a roasted chicken and they can't because of this. they're not going to sit in the aisle and say, i'm not leaving without my chicken. that's not true of airlines and hospitals and train lines. a lot of them now have a baked in problem that could take hours, maybe the whole weekend i took note to the roasted chicken and the baked-in problems. >> i hear you, tom foreman you're a tricky man and i love

it. all right. but this is a problem that people are not going to be getting out of quickly. isabel you are at i think atlanta hartsfield my goodness, what a mess. i see it behind you. what should people expect if they decide? i'm going to take a chance to go to the airport and try to get my flight a lot of headaches, sara, they're going to be waiting in line for a long time. this is serious, is having serious real life implications for these travelers. a lot of them just waiting in these massive lines like this, barely moving in inch forward and look over here, every carrier just routed the kiosks. they're not going to help them. they're unavailable. that's part of the outage. so what's happening here? we've seen is that airline staff right here at the front or having to manually check people in, they have called them out by states. kentucky, alaska, come on over manually checking their details one by one by one. clearly the airline some workers here, they are overwhelmed and so are the

passengers understandably frustrated? because so sorry, right on through because hartsfield jackson is difficult enough on a regular day. this is the world's busiest airport. now they're having to deal with this also, some travelers are going places and they're time sensitive. let me introduce you to tie kelly tie. what is the purpose? of your travel? >> so tomorrow i have a funeral in the afternoon and then on sunday, i have my sisters 50th birthday party so you have places to be how would you describe what you've encountered today here at the airport? i would say it's really chaotic. it's frustrating and i've never experienced anything like this before at this airport. >> when i first saw you, you were sitting down. honestly anxious about all right. >> i had an i was having anxiety like i think zaidi attack, so i had to sit out. my legs were shaking so it was just really it's bad. >> and you actually got to the front over here to be checked

out by frontier. how was that process you've got a ticket, right? >> it's pretty fast, but it's inconvenient. so tomorrow i'm leaving an 820. i am going to cincinnati and from cincinnati to philly, and i won't arrive into philadelphia until 30 and the funeral will be ongoing when i get there. >> so clearly making it in time, what a nightmare scenario tie, wishing you the best of luck and thank you for speaking to us. thank you so much. much also letting you guys know with the major carriers, including delta airlines, this is the hub for delta. they are pausing all flights as quote, we worked through a vendor tech issue. so a lot to be worked out here, a huge headache for passengers guys all right. >> isabel, thank you so much. let's go to london. anna stewart, let's get a quick read on london and what's happening in europe why you're seeing the same picture played out across the world at this stage. >> and i think many airports and airlines are really begging customers this stage to check with the airline before they head to an airport to try and avoid some of the scenes that you are seeing in places like atlanta at this stage. and

actually this data was about an hour and a half ago at least 1,400 flights have been canceled at this stage and pause many, hundreds more have been delayed is unclear how long it's going to take all that backlog it was the work itself out as well so at this stage, so many customers impacted betting into context in terms of big global it outages, we've seen in the past when we had the deltas one and 2017 can we had to be won in 2016? this blows that out of the water. this is disruption right across the board, all across the world. and it's not just airlines. i mean, today we're going to see it i think people will feel it the most at airports like heathrow, that wake stand said and a all across europe. but of course this is also impacting banks telecommunications, uk news network will sky news was actually the early this morning. so really far-reaching consequences. right? >> anna stewart, thanks to you, isabel rosales, tom foreman, we thank all of you obviously, we will keep everyone updated on every twist and turn here in

the meantime, let's get back to kate in milwaukee and in the meantime, i mean, that is such a huge story whenever any updates are coming in, when everything is getting back on online, that breaking news we will bring to you. it was the speech that kept going, like record breaking, breaking, going, even donald trump formerly accepting his party's nomination for president with a historically long speech last night trump promised to call for national unity, and that's speech which he did until he did not quickly transitioning away from unity and toward a more classic donald trump campaign speech when he was onstage with the republican national convention. now wrapped the focus. now does shift to president biden and the mounting pressure for him to step aside according to multiple sources familiar with the dynamics inside the white house and the campaign there is now widespread acceptance that biden remaining in the 2024 race is wholly untenable. now, while president biden remains in covid isolation, we are told that he is in a contemplate of state about his political

future. cnn's jeff zeleny and mark preston are here with me now. i think there are a lot of people in a contemplate of state about the state of things right now, jeff, what would you describe? i don't know if you wouldn't call it the feeling, the sense, the gut check, or the momentum where it is, where is it right now? there's so many new reports new incremental and important developments of how, where things are, where the winds are blowing. what do you, what you're sensing right now this morning, look, i think taken all together as we head into the weekend today, two things. one time is running out because democrats are beginning the process to start of voting for their own nominee, which is happening virtually which we can explain in a minute, but to the walls are closing in. i mean, president biden has many, many admirers. he has many people who respect him. they've been trying to give him space. the people we talked to are saying, look, you're out of time to make this decision. so it is still his decision. there is no doubt, but we know oh,

from a variety of people, it is hard to find a supportive democrat who wants him to stay in the race officially anyway, there are certainly voters rank and file who wonder why replace him. but from former house speaker nancy pelosi to former president barak obama, to many others in the party. it is a sense that they believe he can't win. that is underlying all of this, and that the democrats worry that he will take down their chances of reclaiming the house and holding control the senate, which were longshot in the first place. but now a variety of senators, the majority of senators are very worried about that and marc david axelrod acts last night said after trump's speech, wrap his, his kind of gut take on what he saw was this was that speech he heard was the first good news. the first good thing that happened for democrats in weeks in light of everything that's swirling around biden, do you think what happened here last night in the convention hall and what's happened? this week

changes the conversation inside the biden campaign and among democrats about, about joe biden, you know, geoff and i were talking about this last night, he had made this point that the debate, the cnn debate that really began all this in blue would open, happened three weeks ago we then have come into a convention where there has been dominated about donald trump. he almost is assassinated joe biden has had plenty of time to try to figure this out. his aides have had plenty of time to try to figure this out. they are now in a situation where democrats kept quiet until this convention was over. give him that space, and now that space is now gone. that is why we started seeing these stories pop up the barak obama and nancy pelosi, all of these things have started coming up within 24 hours at the end of that convention, do you think do you really is that there's how many times have we talked about the dam is about to break and that was some of the reporting. but is there a sense that people were really holding off because they did not want this to come out

during the republican convention. >> i mean, it's my sense talking to variety of people that they've been trying to give him the space to make a decision and it's more than just am i going to stay in or not? it's what comes after that. yes. so that i think is where this is heading today. many conversations, not necessarily the president is related to these, but democratic elders wise men and women in the party, if you will, are thinking about plan b. it's not just i'm stepping aside then. are you remaining in the presidency? the answer to that? we're told is yes, it's likely, obviously and then who comes next the process that this opens up, it's more complicated than just one decision. joe biden has dropped out of presidential races before 1988 and 2008. entirely different story here, obviously, because he's president, but again, still as he is he's isolating from covid. he's isolated from his party, right? >> how much does money play into this? is it is it they have, they've raised a ton of money, they've got a ton of money. but it if it is drying up, is that could that be the

last straw? >> you can't have you can't have nancy pelosi and former president barak obama basically telling the party leaders that he can't win and that all the money that they have raised up to this point is for not it can no longer be a vanity project. the party has got to be bigger than one person okay. now we saw last night in here that the party is one person right now on the republican side. but the democrats right now, if they want to have some sustainability moving forward then they've got to realize that it is not about one person, nancy pelosi clearly understands that it's it really does it really, really app comparison. it's great to see you guys, great to see you john, back to all right. we do have breaking news just in from russia of verdict in what some would call a sham trial of falsely accused wall street journal journalists evan gershkovich he has been found guilty by a russian court and sentenced to 16 years the

32-year-old was arrested when he was on a reporting trip in russia last year this trial has been going on behind closed doors since june 26. he's charged again, the wall street journal says falsely he was charged with espionage. gershkovich, and the journal have always strongly denied these charges. just moments ago, found guilty and sentenced to 16 years. we'll have much more on this as it comes in all right. convicted for reporting that is exactly what happened in their heart goes out to evan gershkovich and his family, and hopefully there there'll be a resolution on this soon and getting ammo, they've been fighting a really long time to try to get him home and this is a real disappointment and sadness for them and the rest of the country and the wall street journal alright. >> he said he ripped up as humdinger of a speech to instead focus on unity after the assassination attempt. well, donald trump flipping the script again he's. back on the attack going back to his dark rhetoric, we will talk about

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business easily with freelancers fiverr my father chose me to succeed him no matter the consequences house of the dragon streaming exclusively on max this morning as the 2024 race moves on from milwaukee but what about last night, donald trump took the stage to officially accept his party's nomination. remarks that were also his first speech

since the assassination attempt and his first detailed accounting of what he experienced at on that rally stage. trump hit that theme of unity that he and the campaign promise was coming a change and a shift that he wanted to make after the near-death experience i am running to be president for all of america, not half of america. because there is no victory in winning were half of america donald trump also proved he is still classic. >> trump tone, shifting away from that unity message during his speech and toward a more is more divisive rhetoric in that very same speech so what does it all add up to today, joining us right now, republican governor of north dakota, doug barbara, it's good to see you. governor. thank you so much for being here so added all up for me. >> if there's one message that you think comes out of the convention this week that you

hope voters take from it. what is it? >> what i think the place we have to start is where present sharp trump started last night. and that's the recounting of of his near death experience. i mean, think about it only delivering a national speech, only five days away from when he was a millimeter or a quarter of an inch or less away from not being with us. yeah, it it's just too hard to think because there would not have been a convention the nation would be in mourning both parties would be in chaos instead of just one party being in chaos. and i think it would have been a very scary time for america because it'd be like, who's leading us. and the two leading candidates. it would it would, it would have put in a spot that we wouldn't have been in 250 years. so i think for for many people last night, seeing him walk on stage come out the way the way he was honoring kory who died at the rally. i mean, i think that alone was a unifying experience and then then i think the

humanizing, i mean, just sharing the story. i mean, when he said he reported earlier in an interview that i shouldn't be here and then the crowd started chanting. >> it decided donald trump vulnerability, if you well, that we've not seen in his past campaigns, that's what you saw, what happened, which is, you know, the crowd is saying yes, you should yes, you should coming back at them. so there's a the that i think before you even if he gets into policy, are saying, i mean, this is this can clinch it is going to be remembered for its relationship to an assassination attempt. the near proximity, you know, him being here showing up on monday night within 48 hours of that happening? and part of what this campaign has been about just because the two, the two players that personify the two administration that hasn't been about strength versus weakness. and last night, i mean, president trump and the recounting of the stories and what he did in the aftermath of the rally, standing up i think there's a yearning for people

right now with the with the chaos abroad, challenges at home is strength versus weakness, i think is a big theme and i think that it was played perfectly. and then unity party unity is unity within your own party and truly clear there's not ever been a republican party, but part of this is the behind the scenes, the plot, former president trump drove any, any sort of made going to say, made light of both parties having these 50 or 100 page long platforms that no american reads. and he's got it down to the 20 promises that any american can read. and those are things that they're hard to disagree with, whether you're independent, you're a democrat or republican. i mean, i think all of us would say, hey, let's inflation should be now in interest rate should be down, economic growth in real wages should be up. peace abroad. that's a good thing. >> it's how you got there. that's where these that's where the two parties i want to read for you how axios can describe the speech, because there's who is the donald trump? the sides of donald trump that we're going to see in the campaign going forward

as a question, i think today, which is the new donald trump's soothed and silence. silence the nation for 28 minutes last night, than the old trump returned and bellowed, barked, and board america for 64 minutes more. does last night proved that donald trump is not changed it's the word change because that is how he has described what has happened to him, how the campaign is described when they said that if there tearing up the speech and they were going to be rewriting it, he went from that and that he did fall, not full-back. he went to classic donald trump, which do you fear it when it comes to voters, they can read it as he's only projecting unity in name, only not in practice because we heard that crazy nancy's and we heard the words that he has used in the past that people describe as division well, i think there's a change and i think we use staff to go back to people's experience. not many of us know people, some people know people who've had near-death experiences and they've seen

how that's changed him. but go back to the night before when i was sitting next to them and his granddaughter, kai trump comes on stage as 16-year-old no, you're sitting x don't want guy was on stage and he's sitting there and it would be just in anything if just pick any grandfather in america and then you're watching, you're 16-year-old granddaughter that you know, that you love, that you've got a relationship with your golf you call and you check on or about grades that that person is delivering this speech to the nation and just doing a fantastic job. i would say that some of the programming choices were artful and very smart this week now, but i would just say, you're doing that just as a grandfather, that would be amazing. >> within you're doing it as someone who in the back of your mind is, i could have missed this because i might have been killed if my head had been like a quarter turn other direction. >> so i think there's a gratitude and a presence in the moment. >> and last night near the end of his speech, she said you know, each day is precious any

any any any referenced the grace of god, divine providence multiple times. and i think these are things that really hit home because there is no other explanation because it is literally a miracle that he turned his head at that moment in time. >> you know, you talked, about pointing if the slide on immigration that was the only slide he had at the whole row is wild. but when he put that up less than i was like, that is a really interesting but it wasn't like he had 20 slides. >> he brought one slide. >> you don't want 20 slides, you need a powerpoint presentation at around you, but i'm saying it's the one that is why it has that it was the onetime when he would turn and look away. >> do you do you know how close you came to being vp i have a pretty good idea. >> yes. >> please tell us how close this close. well, i think it was an honor to be under closed consideration. >> i know the decision was made till till monday and i know there was a lot of back-and-forth between a lot of people, but i think that president trump's made a great choice and jd vance, you saw the reception here. and of course, we do get back to policy all it takes quickly yeah. to win this race. we've

got to win. we gotta win. iowa. we've got to win pence. >> how are you going to be utilized? here? are you going to go was used. what is doug burgum best? >> how are you best use? what states and how for this campaign, where are you going next? >> well i ran on going as north dakota. i mean, i've got to 148 days left as governor of north dakota, we got a lot of stuff you can walk and chew gum at the same time. well, i have been doing that for the last year or so and were kept north dakota moving forward and we participated heavily and trying to shape the national dialogue. but i think part of what you see is that the three things that we've talked about when i watched for president of the year you're an algo, you're in a month ago was the economy energy and national security and how those three things are completely unrelated. and i think that what i'm excited about is that you see republican candidates around the country senators, congressman president trump last night clearly tying all those together at the end of his speech. this is another historic thing. he's the first

presidential candidate that's ever uttered the words ai in a convention speech and he was talking about how we need how we need energy to power artificial intelligence jargon, the ai embed the ais are an ambassador in the next, in a coming joe administration, ai is going to change every job, every industry and every, every company but we're in an ai arms race with china. >> and this cold war will be different than past cold wars because it's not just a military arms race. it's an ai computer in china is building power plant. they're opening up a couple of weeks. they have over 400 gigawatts under construction. >> here's my big tech doug. doug burgum has got going back to north dakota. doug burgum is gonna be back on the campaign trail for donald trump very well while we, we have to, because if we're, if we're going the wrong direction on the economy, energy, national security that matters to every american does what party you're in. thank you. we can lift it up for everybody. thank you so much. thank you. >> john. >> all i can say is wow to the question-and-answer of do you know how close you came to being the vice presidential pick? the answer. i have a pretty good idea. if he can put

his ear most on the look on his face when he said it. wow, he knows. i guess he came pretty close. kate, that was awesome. thank you. very much. yeah. >> i got an eyebrow raised that tells me, yes. >> yes. pretty close hi, nice to see you, governor, have gone back in north dakota. we appreciate it this cannot go on much longer. that is what one insider is saying new reporting that some canada the pain officials now think president biden has no choice but to abandon his reelection bid and in a new interview moments ago, the ceo crowdstrike the company behind the huge tech outages that are affecting thousands and thousands of people right now around the world. they say they've resolve the issue and are working with each and every customer to get back online welcome to the now way to network they switch to junipers, ai native network and now everyone is still productive. they're operating at a higher gear that's the

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than 1,100 canceled. that's in the u.s. alone one family chicago o hare said, they are now going to have to drive 10.5 bowers to baltimore, but they don't have their bags, their a check their bags we got the notification after we got through security that it was delayed. >> and then less than 510 minutes, it was canceled and they were having issues with the system already. they took our luggage and now we can't get our luggage all right. with us now, lance ulanoff editor-at-large at tech radar. lance great to see you explained to us this tech outage what's happened here with crowdstrike is it fixed? and if it's really fixed, how long will it take for everything to be okay. again? >> but i'm glad you said crowdstrike and not of microsoft outage because a lot of people have said that. and they are connected crowdstrike

is a major cybersecurity. global cybersecurity firm that works on basically works on most windows system at infrastructure level and enterprise level systems crowdstrike was doing an upgrade and seems like they were doing a soft freight software upgrade overnight, which is not uncommon. that's kind of what you do when not a lot of people are using the system. they did it, maybe they didn't regression tested enough and it brought systems down and it brought systems down around the world because crowdstrike is used all over the world. he has 3,300 customers, their lives with 82% of us state governments, many major cities. and of course, all of these infrastructure level of things. when that went down because it works with windows, windows at the most popular operating system in the world that cascaded, that went down. you saw the blue screen of death all over the place. microsoft office 365, which is a sound pr popular cloud-based office suite that everyone uses connected, went down xbox live went down. so all of these things went down crowdstrike,

did recognize the issue they issued the updated with a rapid updates, probably a few hours ago but they also offered some manual updates that people could do again, only it level people are going to do that. most people did not they tried rebooting, but now things are coming back, but it takes time because it's a global system. everything's interconnected. you can't just flip a switch, it doesn't all just come back. they have to get the systems running again. i have seen some signs that things are coming back, but it's going to probably take at least a few more hours for us to get back to normal lands. >> when you say everything's connected. and this one company has 3,300 clients. if you will, including these are no small, these are no small companies. these are bank these are airlines. these are government agencies. do we need to be concerned about this? should there be a real thought of a shift from having one company have that much power. this was just an update yeah.

>> yeah. i mean, there's there's definitely been some discussions about diversification of software. this tends to happen, you get a company that does well and then becomes the sole provider for many of these things. it's easy also because of the interconnection when you're working with other companies, if you find that to solve for but your partners are working with, you tend to choose that thing, but it is kind of funny because, kaspersky, which is a software security software company, said our software would never do this, which is kind of silly to say. but the truth of the matter is it has to be if you have this much control, this much power which crowdstrike ends up having, then they have to be extra careful i will say that's not the first time we've seen something like this in the year we had the at&t outage, which was ultimately caused by a software update. so people are not double checking these things. i understand the systems are incredibly complex. the complexity grows every day by the way, they have crowdstrike has an ai system. they could have tested this against that might have helped them.

>> i felt like your system just i feel like there is a tech got out there and you're shot drop lance ulanoff his freeze you you just used appeared. that is because as i said karma, is in television unless you all thank you so much for being with us this morning. there it is by violence. now, we can hear you. we just can't see you. this is all because of this problem that's what we think, right? all right. well democrats saw an opening for them to remind voters of the dark and angry donald trump that they've come to know oh they are scrambling this morning instead with calls for joe biden to step aside, growing louder each day, including donors making a big big, bush where checking the numbers on the democratic party's top choices too possibly if it happens, take over the ticket et me

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on polling publicly before all of this. and one source says that he has been defensive about the polling privately since all of this. what do the polls say? let me bring in cnn's harry enten for more on this. harry lay the groundwork where is biden's polling right now? what? because everyone, what are they looking at? >> there have been a lot of ways that we've sort of looked at the polling. we know he's down in the swing states where he's note we know he's down nationally, but i want to just compare this to the 2020 campaign and just give you an idea of the consistency of joe biden's deficit to donald trump. so what we have here is every single day of the 2024 calendar year joe biden has been trailing down trump 100% of the days on any day you take a national average, joe biden has been trailing down trump. compare that to where we were back in the 2020 campaign, where every single day up to this point in the campaign, joe biden was ahead of donald trump on 100% of the devil really exactly. so it's the complete

and polar opposite of where we were four years ago. the fact is joe biden's very well well-known. donald trump is very well-known and the voters have been very consistent on how they feel about this race. they may not love either one of the candidates, but the fact is at this particular zero point, they have consistently said that they would prefer donald trump to be the next president as opposed to joe biden, which is the total and complete opposite of what we saw four years ago. >> so that speaks to the polling that nancy pelosi is said to have likely shown? yes. joe biden, when he was at some of it, when they are in private and she was speaking to him about but if again, we don't know where things are going to go, it is up to joe biden. he decides if he would step aside. what is the precedent, especially when you're looking at the timing? >> there is no precedent there is no precedent. the two examples of incumbent presidents in the modern era who could have run for reelection and decided not to, or harry s truman in 1952. and lyndon baines johnson back in

1,968. but remember, they got out at the beginning of the primary process after the new hampshire primary. if you look right now, there's just a month to go until the democratic national convention. there is no precedent and even less, depending on what exactly exactly, depending on when they do that roll call went johnson and truman got out, there was over 100 days to go until the democratic national convention. >> now, we're a month ago. if they're going to act, it seems like they should do it fast, but the fact is every single day that we wait they just seems that the chance of biden being the nominee increases because the fact is time is running out i mean, there also i mean it's unprecedent, right. >> so you can't say you go to make it already that the time has run out like that's because when you look at what we've just looking at the past and the president that you just talked about so there's been a lot of talk if joe biden would step aside, who would then be best to replace him what where what's the read on that

according to voters? >> yes. so you know, there has been actually very limited data on who democratic voters would prefer. >> there's been a lot of data on if you match up these potentially other democrats against donald i'm from, but we haven't seen who democratic voters prefer. and i think that's rather important because keep in mind that democratic voters selected joe biden to be their nominee. so we have limited data, but in fact, there was a recent poll that just came out in the last 48 hours from the state of new hampshire and you would have expected that that state would not necessarily be one of harris's best day given i think there's a lot of people who think her base it's would be black voters within the democratic party if, you know anything about new hampshire, it a very white state. but in fact, older, whiter, older whiter, but in fact, she blows away the field. she gets 50% of registered democrats in the state of new hampshire, a state that wouldn't necessarily be too friendly to her. pete buttigieg. a second and he is way back in the path. so at this particular point, when you fit good, that she's the vice president, you figured that she has easy access to the money for the biden harris campaign and the other candidates don't. and the fact that voters do in fact prefer her. i think it's

going to be very difficult to take the nomination away from her if joe biden does, in fact step down, that is very interesting. it's great to see you here, great to see you. >> thank you. thank you. >> john sara. >> all right. with us now, republican strategist, shermichael singleton and the former communications director for vice president harris jamal simmons. jamal, i want to start with you. i kind of have one ask you to happen the question first and you're not going to like before her has harris world reached out to you in the last week? >> has there been any outreach to people about the possibility of a presidential campaign? >> listen, they are doing absolutely zero inside the white house i'm harris land to focus on this because commonly harris is position the entire time i was there and i think sense is that she's wants to be the best partner to joe biden possible. and the truth is, this is one of these places where your personal values about being loyal and being good partner actually go very well with your perfect, your political needs what says that if she's going to be successful, it's going to be because the president views her

as a partner and decides to help endorse her and all of his people follow. >> i had to i had to ask so no, or at least not really or not, you're good at telling me i give everybody is buzzing there are a lot of alumni were all night my hope because i do think this is a searing, every man agree this is being discussed. this isn't made up i want to know jamaal not whether it should or shouldn't happen but if it is going to happen, how how does it happen at this point? so if it was going to happen, i think the president got gets out and he says, i would like my like my delegates to endorse him to go with kamala harris they go with kamala harris and then they will still have to have a vote, right? they'll have to still be the all the same voting mechanisms that existed before. you have a vote, even if someone else wants to run, you got to assume she's going to get a big chunk of those. i also would expect people there's a great need and the democratic party ai, desire people are talking well to end this quickly. so what i would

call the super friends, you probably probably will see some cohort of the super friends come together that would be like nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, hakeem jeffries, maybe even barack obama or bill, bill and hillary clinton. you will starting to see those people move pretty quickly to endorse whoever the nominee is gonna be, that will pretty much shut down the debate about who it's going to be. and then you start to get into the conversation about who the vice president would be. and i think that is probably going to be a much more contested process. then picking the top of the ticket. >> john was going to ask to see your phone and see your tech going to go to he has done so many good morning with me. >> but anyway shermichael, i want to talk to you about what we saw on the stage from donald trump. i mean, it was like a wwe matchup being literally you had whole cogen there but which trump do we get? which trump does the country get? because you saw the principled reading the prompter, and then you saw the trump when it was dark tax and he went back to what he has always done i mean, look, the

first part of the speech i thought came off very well strong. >> i thought the speech was a bit long. i was telling jim all i probably we would have kept that at around 30 minutes. i think the good news though, sara is attention spans are short, so most people probably saw the first 15, 20 minutes of that. it was late. i even eventually said all right. i'm follow this up tomorrow. that's because it was so media has a lot and you'll see a little clips here and there, but it, but i'll say this republican voters, after this convention, i would say, generally speaking, are excited and energized democratic voters are demoralized by president biden. trump is coming off as politically strong. president biden is coming off as politically week. he's being abandoned by democratic donors. he's been abandoned by democratic leadership on the hill and at least half of democratic voters are saying it's time for the president to step away and go with someone else. if you're republicans right now, you're looking at the next three-and-a-half months as being very positive, not only in terms of winning

the white house potentially went in the senate and also winning the house. and for my democratic friends. this is complete chaos. the houses on fire and they have to figure out how they can extinguish it as quickly as possible. >> i have a little bit of an alternate vision of how this might be working i'm sure another great i'm not saying i will stipulate all the facts here, but i will say i imagined donald trump is looked, look this and he's not very happy right now, because what i saw earlier, you've got a split-screen happening. here's donald trump's speech. what's happening with joe biden and donald trump likes to control the media narrative and one thing that couldn't be true is that the democrats are having a lot of chaotic drama right now. but people are attached to this drama. it's riveting, like what's going to happen. going to say soap-opera, we're in a reality tv nation. what happens if we get at the democrats, get a candidate that's pretty decent out of this process. that's a big payoff for people who stuck with the saga. donald trump understands the reality of modern television. the rest of us keeps trying to go back to some previous era of normalcy. we don't live in an

era anymore. donald trump knows that i got to believe he's looking at this and he's worried about the amount of attention the democrats. >> but one contrasting view here i would say you're looking at 81,000 votes what's across four states that made the difference in 2022 benefits to president biden were the covid pandemic. you had completely high a vote by mail that's something that was unheard of unprecedented in the history of our country. those factors will not be the case this november what you really saw during the convention this week was that republicans were really focused on voters who typically don't vote. they don't really turn out in most elections. they're eligible. maybe there even are registered it specifically, younger men, i think you're looking at places like wisconsin, arizona, georgia, you're talking about differences of 11,000 votes, 22,000 votes, those numbers will absolutely matters. so i agree with you in terms of the intrigue, in terms of the television spectacle here. but at the end of the day, you still have to have the operations in place to turn out those voters what is it we're seeing a much more disciplined campaign from donald trump this time compared to the last two times.

>> well, the difference here is also the democrats have been running a lot of discipline campaigns for a lot of years. and so so while the biden campaign has offices all over the country, has got mountains, here is all of the countries got paid staff all over the country. and there are people who are actually good at turning out voters are registering them republicans are not good good at putting together vote by mail programs because you've been running against him for so long. >> jamal simmons, shermichael singleton. thank you for that. thanks, guys. very kind. and unified conversation morning. >> we're going to see this morning stuck an airport in milwaukee her happy about all right? this morning, cnn heroes is helping hundreds of girls in the african country of togo attend school. paton mcgriff turned her college project into a non-profit that provides uniforms and supplies to girls whose family simply can't afford them. here's more on her unique way to stretcher resources when a girl enters our program she not only receives a new school uniform, but she receives a full tuition

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start your will. i trust and will.com and make it count if you work in spaceflight, this is the worst thing i could happen space shuttle columbia, the final flight. >> now streaming on max donald trump taking center stage at the republican convention here in milwaukee. it all led up to the big moment last night when he accepted officially his party's presidential nomination. and there's a lot of talk about that speech, a lot of talk about the speech today, and even leading up to it, was the shift even temporarily to a more unifying message that he did deliver at times, trump spoke for more than 90 minutes, a historically long convention speech. and with it making more than 20 false statements to voters, cnn's daniel dale tracking all of it for us, and he's back with us now. daniel, let's start with what donald trump said last night about times of war and times of peace. let's, let's play this the world was

at peace. >> our opponents inherited a world at peace and turned it into a planet of war were to planet of war, don, whole world was at peace and now the world is blowing up around does what does your fact check find daniel? >> this is one of the easier fact checks i've done in my nine years of fact checking former president trump. he did not leave joe biden a world at peace. there was an ongoing civil war in syria and ongoing civil war in yemen. of course, a very much unresolved israeli palestinian conflict is israeli iranian conflict. there was a war in ethiopia. i could go on at length, one research institution found that there were 51 nation states in which they were active, aren't armed conflicts 2020. and again, 51 nation states in which they were active armed conflicts in 2021. so this claim that there was world peace under trump, or when he left office in january 2021. just clearly not not true on one of the topics that the foreign president hits on quite

a lot on crime. >> let's play some of what he said last night crime rate is going up while crime statistics all over the world are going down how does that check out absolutely false. our crime rate is not going up. in fact, it is declining sharply of violent crime declined approximately please. 6% in 2023, according to preliminary national fbi figures. and then another 15% in the first quarter of 2024. so we're talking steep declines even steeper decline in murder in particular. and now, both murder and violent crime overall are at lower levels than in 2020. trump's own last final calendar year in office daniel inflation is a huge issue for both campaigns and the country. >> let's play what donald trump said about that last time you can go back to any country that suffered great inflation. we've suffered the worst