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and welcome. it's time to break down the big stories with some smart people. >> today, we're asking while everyone waits to see if president biden drops out of the race is kamala harris? >> for also sure. to replace them at the top of the ticket. does the same old same old. did donald trump's shifted his speed from reflect job to vindictive win him any new supporters and going retro young married couples ripping a page out of the i love lucy playbook in a surprising trend, experts say is healthy. the panel is here and ready to go. so sit back, relax, and let's talk about up first, president biden is in delaware. this weekend physically isolated fighting because of covid and politically isolated from many in his party who want him to quit the race. but while his campaign says he is not

dropping out, that's not stopping some democrats from pushing him both privately and very publicly some the pass the torch and let us choose a new nominee democrats hitting the airwaves with a new wow, pushing biden to leave the race, ai country's future is in your hands. the latest salvo in a barrage of pressure on the president as he recovers from covid at his beach house and his campaign continues to push back on democratic defectors, joe biden is more committed than ever to beat donald trump, the top democrats in congress, telling biden privately, than leaking to the media that he is not only going to lose, but possibly hand the house and senate to republicans. >> i think he ultimately knows the stakes, but if biden steps aside the bill good question is, what happens next? >> i think we ought to go ahead and nominate our nominee, yet the convention, like we're supposed to, and who will take the baton from biden? >> i just think that that camilla is the person, but others don't think the vice

president is the best bet to beat trump. >> huge amount of these folks in these rooms that i see that are pushing for president biden to not be the nominee also are not interested in seeing the vice president being the nominee here with me today, podcaster and author kara swisher, reihan salam, president of the manhattan institute and national review, contributing editor new york times journalist and podcast host lulu garcia garcia-navarro, and editor of the dispatch and columnist at the la times, jonah goldberg. >> welcome back, everyone. jonah is biden in or out. >> i think biden thinks he's in and he's going to be out i think they've gone they've left the phase where they tried to quietly pressure him and give him some dignity, persuade him to persuasion phase is over and now they are going to make it as painful as possible for him and force him out. and that's a different process and it's a much uglier one and you think they can force him out of

his hell bent on staying in the race. i think if they look, first of all, if i'm going to bet on somebody, i bet more on nancy pelosi than i would on joe biden. i think nancy pelosi is sort of like in the godfather, it was bart barzini all along. i think hello, see behind all of this and i think that, you know, the money's turning off and the poll numbers are not going to get to the point where biden, because biden is set a standard that can't be met because we're so polarized. but at some point, i think we're going pricey. some staffers quit and the pressure is just going to get so bad and the ability to get him to do this in a face saving way, i think is over, but i think he's going to go, we've got this puzzle where unnamed sources say the president has begun. i love this phrase has begun to accept the idea. he may have to drop out, but yesterday, he released this statement i look forward to getting back on the campaign trail next week. >> lula as biden in or out, i think he's out. >> i think it's inevitable at

this point. ai too would back nancy pelosi i think once you see people leaving her, discussions that is a signal to the entire democratic party that it's pretty much over for joe biden. he doesn't have the support anymore of the people that he needs. we talked about this earlier. we were all saying, if senior leadership, if we see senior members of the democratic party actually go and talk to him and trying and push them out, then that is the sign that he is on his way out and we have seen that. and so we are at the end game two would do my bad biden impression. >> he still there. >> he's still there. and can i just say this? i think is incredibly sad this is a man who has given his entire career to, for this country he has behaved honorably. what you're seeing is people on his enemies calling him vilifying him and saying that he is evil. and the people who are supposed to be

his friends saying that he needs to be kicked out. it's a very ignominious end to quite a storied career that said it is an end if biden drops out, repeat if the next question is, who's going to replace him a new poll finds 56% of democrats want the best nominee, no matter who while 33% back vice president harris kara is harris a sure thing to replace biden if he drops out as close to a sure thing as possible, i think it'd be very hard to dislodge her. she's got the backing of a lot of people in silicon valley and in media is very close to them. that's where all the money, as i always follow the money. and i think it would just be a cycle with terrible news stories to knock her out. she's she is kind of the next in line. >> do you think that she is the strongest candidate to take on donald trump? >> if she if she has a strong vice president, someone who i think will match her well the

possible candidates that have been put out, gretchen whitmer and gavin newsom's specific quickly have specifically said to me they would backer. i think that they would they're not going to go to his backer. well, that's the question. i think i think she becomes more interesting and substantive one, she runs right when she's there. and so it changes your status? if you're the front person right away, there are several factors that certainly favor or harrah's getting the nomination. again, if biden decides to drop out, the $91 million in the biden campaign war chest can easily be transferred to harris, but no one else and are democrats. as kara suggested, willing to pass over the first black woman vice president rayan. same question is harris the sure thing to replace biden if he drops out of the race? >> know i don't think she is the sure thing. i think if you're going to do something

this dramatic, ambitious, and drastic, people are going to want to maximize their chances. do i think it's the most likely, yes. there's a lot of inertia. people are going to be anxious. that's going to seem like a safe bet. but if you are going to these extreme lengths, let me tell you. if you go from trump i'm call it a 25% chance of winning, go to camila. maybe it's 35, 40%. if you go to someone like a josh shapiro, who represents a very high risk for the left of the party. but you have a much, much stronger chance of winning. and that's the dilemma they face. if you see what's happening right now around the politics of who is saying, what about a joe biden? you'll notice it's bernie sanders. it's aoc, it's illinois backing who are backing biden? why are they doing that? jamaal bowman just lost a big primary in new york. part of that was abet israel, but part of her squad, member of the squad, newer part of it was this perception that he was not a loyal democrat. he did invite for the bipartisan infrastructure law. i think that way but they're trying to show is that we're the loyal ones. we're here, we're sticking with joe. joe is given the hard left, a huge amount.

the so-called unity platform staffers from the elizabeth warren network. they know they owe him a huge amount and they think heads i win tails, you lose either way, even if trump loses, they're going to be very well positioned. if it's like a josh shapiro, suddenly they don't have those deep ties, those deep connections, that deep obligation. and that's going to be really interesting, right? >> let's play this out. jonah, let's say biden sometime in the next few days, people are suggesting as early as sunday announces i'm out. now he may endorse or he may not endorse. what is the could you in the course of the next month before the democratic convention begins, have a real open, many primary with four or five candidates and town halls or debates or whatever, and go to chicago and have an open convention well, that's, that's our dream, right? i mean, that's a fantasy baseball kind of thing of it. i do think there's a, there's a hybrid approach, a split the baby approach, which is to go,

through the formalism of having an open process, but biden endorses kamala releases his delegates endorses harris i think you would see a whole bunch as one dead, one prominent democrat told me you would see a super friends effect where a lot of prominent democrats would rally to her, but she would still have to technically fight for it. and when it on her own, which would actually make her stronger without it sounding like she's just given the keys to the kingdom. >> one reason that democrats and congress are pushing so hard for biden to drop out is the fear that he will take them down with them listen to this in 2016 and 2020, just one senate candidate and 69 races one in a state that went for the other party's presidential candidate. so tickets flooding is not very common how much trouble are democrats down ballot in if either with or without biden at the top of the ticket like everything in american politics depends where you are. i think where it

matters, which is in races that are tight and races that are in swing states, they are in a lot of trouble, right now. what you're seeing more than anything, what this is doing is really affecting not just independents, but the people who are the base of the democratic et party. i mean, there's this joke that they would vote for joe biden even if he was you know, even if it was weekend at bernie's and he was being reanimated from the dead because they're committed democrats. but there is a lot of dissatisfaction right now. i've heard it from people saying, you know what, we want something different, we want change and this it's in infighting is really hurting the democratic party. i don't know what they stand for right now. they have to go in guns blazing and this isn't something that actually is happening there. instead, they're fighting each other instead of actually aiming so to speak, at the opposition. >> then there's donald trump's remarkable week. polls show he's leading the race by a growing margin. but a biden

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trump and hold hogan ripping off his shirt but it was the nominee who raised some questions, reminding voters why they either love or loathe him donald trump labour today, making his first campaign stops since the assassination attempt at an indoor arena in michigan and the first since accepting the gop nomination would the speeches team said would be more reflective and focused on unity. it started that way. >> i am running to be president for all of america, not half of america than telling the story of his near death experience in gripping detail. >> i'm not supposed to be here tonight i stand before you in this arena only by the grace of almighty god, but that didn't last long as he quickly reverted to airing old grievances and re-litigating 2020 crazy nancy pelosi, if the election result would never

going to let that happen again. they use covid to cheat. >> and while by camp payne said, trump wouldn't mention joe biden by name. he couldn't help himself. >> if you took the ten worst presidents in the history of the united states, they will not have done the damage that biden has done in the end, it was the longest acceptance speech on record at 92 minutes. boring some and missing an opportunity to set a new tone. >> this really reminded everyone why donald trump is fundamentally unpopular outside this rule rayan with apologies to the who is the new trump? >> same as the old trump. >> i do think that there is a material difference when it comes to how he's approached this campaign. i think as a general matter, he has been a lot more disciplined and since the assassination attempt, i think that he has been a bit more somber is expressed a bit more gratitude but certainly look, 92 minutes that was that was not a wise choice. you have this one moment where he had the public's attention. i think that this was a display

of unity and a lot of ways the production values were strong, having ordinary americans really take center stage for much of the convention was a really smart move. the downside is that there was some hubris here. there was some over-confidence, and i think that was reflected in some of trump's choices this week. so i think that's yes, trump. and then there's real trump. i mean, there's the there's the 15 minutes of like actually he was reading the teleprompter and couldn't talk about this speech. and it was gripping as you said. and then there's what happened. the rest, which was kind of like wild harp hyperbole. he was talking about what's happened. >> they press the factory reset that he went back there was a concerted effort at the convention, not only by trump, but by the choice of gas the soften the hard edges of trump's image from a grand daughters love to talk of divine providence saving him from death the media makes my

grandpa seem like a different person, but i know him for who he is he's very caring and loving. >> he truly wants the best for this country. >> god almighty intervened because america is one nation and under god and he is certainly not finished with president trump era. did the convention succeed in softening some of the edges and presenting a different trump to voters until he got up. >> yeah, it worked well. i thought that granddaughter was charming, was lovely. sarah huckabee, same and there's not so much that she was very good, but they tried to do it and they tried to do it in lots of different ways. and but some of the speakers seemed off kilter. you guys were there, you heard them i would say it worked a little bit and then trump showed up. and was trump that we know him as and you're like, oh, that guy, again, i remember i was watching that speech and he was great. until he and then it was off the rails. and hannibal lecter, i mean, it was talking about hannibal lecter,

all these shacks. >> i was sort of disarray honestly, i think a lot of that stuff comes across as pretty charming and funny to those who are open to him. those were inclined his way. i think that it certainly was too long. i think there's no getting around that. i don't want it wasn't talking about, you know, immigrants it's being violent criminals and i'm sorry, but his whole brand is the idea that he's a truth teller. >> he says things that other greatest hits. >> i a lot of people i know that are independent were like, why didn't believe the media about his rallies. and now i believe that that's on a nominations which it wasn't and it became a rally the inherent tension in the convention, all conventions these days are essentially infomercials. it was a great infomercial. >> they did a really good job. it was it was planned the images that are going to stick with people were really good. the gold-star families, all of that au colgan was sort of force the problem is is that trump is the schism that ran through the whole convention was the people who understood

that the audience was the tv audience versus the people who thought the audience were the people in the room. >> and trump aide, his spinach for the first 25 minutes. and did what the professionals want them to do. >> and then he was like now it's time for dessert i'm going to talk to people around me, do my route. >> there was a trump campaign tried to cast a wider net at the convention featuring a number of black and hispanic speakers and a major speech at a republican convention by the head of the teamsters union jonah do you think trump won you talk about this between the audience and the hall and the tv audience of millions of people. do you think he attracted new voters with the convention trying attract new voters who are just energized the trump base. well, i don't think any huge number of people were watching the convention on traditional television the convention 1,820 million people. a lot of them like trump, i mean, i'd like a lot of persuadables. i don't think we're we're watching what i think they generated an enormous amount of content for was to cut up the teamsters

speech, to cut up the hulk hogan thing. that's gonna go out on tiktok and youtube and all these places and those images are going to, are going i do a lot of work from also the first 24 minutes of his speech. that's the stuff most local news channels are covering. they're not covering the crazy rally stuff. it's so they got the sound bites out of this. i think they needed kara from has been preparing for months to run against joe biden. >> how do you think the race changes? >> if biden does in the next few days drop out and he suddenly got whether it's harris or tba, tbd, a whole new opponent well, i think it probably unsettling. we'll see what happens. i think he's more used to harris. he has all his different lines about harris. i think if it's someone like newsome, i think it will disturb him because he's such a look ist and gavin isn't it looks better than i'm i'm sorry to tell you, but i mean, i think he gets rattled by physicality and so we'll see but that happens and i think you get very easily rattled by someone like that.

>> can i just get rattled by women to women, this is what i was about to say. >> we're not talking about the gender issue. i mean, if you look at what that entire convention was about they were not talking about abortion. they were trying to soft pedal there the positions. and the fact of the matter is is that this is an in many ways an anti-woman in the way that it's viewed movement that donald trump has. it appeals to men. it tries to build up this idea of retrograde masculinity. and so by having a woman at the head of the ticket, in fact, i don't think it should be josh shapiro. it should be maybe a gretchen whitmer and have the ticket be all women because i think at this point if the democrats want to do something, they should try and show that they are doing something. >> i just want to bring one other element into this raihan, the generational issue if. you even if it's harris, who is in her late 50s or some of these other people who were considerably younger than that,

wouldn't that be an effective way to run against trump and, and to a certain degree against biden to say you know, it's a whole new game. it's a new, new generation. we're going to forget about the boomers and their fights and let's talk about the future and perhaps portray donald trump and his issues and his concerns and his history as old news, the most dangerous opponent for donald trump would be governor josh shapiro for this reason, when he spoke about that firefighter corey comperatore, who died at that trump rally. he spoken about him warmly as a human being, as a citizen, as a great dad in a way that felt very authentic. i think it would be really hard to find another prominent democrat and national politics who could really sell that after having really worked the progressive base for a long time and the trump era. and i think that that's why shapiro is someone who really represents a threat the shapiro campaign to make see disagreement x marks the spot on a controversial new state law which sets schools and

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first in the nation bill that says schools can't notify parents if a child changes their gender identity or tell parents up their child's sexual orientation is conservatives say the law violates parental rights, but lgbtq groups praised the decision saying it protects kids with unsupportive families here's a taste of the debate some unfortunately continue to face rejection and are exposed to serious harm if prematurely for us to reveal their identity, the state does not own our children. >> they have no business getting between parents and children especially on something as potentially damaging as this now, one school district has already sued governor newsom over the law and elon musk called it the final straw and vowed to move the headquarters of two of his companies acts and spacex from california to texas, reihan

should for rental notification be banned in schools on these issues? i think this is a really, really bad decision on many levels. first on the substance, i think that this doesn't reflect the best evidence we have about so-called social transition. i think this is something and where it really is important to get the parents involved. but i also think separately from that, even if you might disagree with that subsidiarity makes sense here let's let schools decide, let's, let communities and school districts work this out on their own terms in a way that makes sense to all of those stakeholders, rather than have state-level preemption about something where there's lot of uncertainty and a lot of risk for families torn apart. >> talking about as part of what caused this law to be path, there was a push for the law after more than a dozen school boards in california required schools to notify parents if students asked you use it, that it's time but that's my i'm sorry. was it i'm going to stop you because this happened to me and this is

something schools should stay out of relationships between parents and their children, especially on these issues. >> you cannot force a teacher to have to intervene and a family issue, he was trying to keep keep government out of schools. not exactly. >> these know, because it's, because it's not what does it doesn't does it's not great spin for grim news. it doesn't force teachers to insert themselves in family discussions and let me say for most people who are gay and lesbian and especially it is very difficult because you have your parents against you at the same time. and in some of these families, it's very dangerous for these kids. >> but let's close she will stay out of this but i agree that the state should stay out of this decision plates, chris, but the state is in the decision if it's banning parents. >> i mean, that's a state decision. >> will look, i think i think that what you'd want to do is be very careful about creating the presumption that you were necessarily an abusive parent. if you have concerns about kids

were very impressionable, kids were very vulnerable in a lot of cases when you have folks who are not clinicians, these are not people who are trained and educated and how to handle the look at another part of this issue. and it almost flips it on a tad 25 states now, have laws that bar transgender minors under 18 from having gender affirming care such as puberty blockers or hormones, or in rare cases, surgery. even with their parents consent, jonah should parental rights be limited in this area what this is much more with ryan on on school stuff, but on this stuff, i think having parents parental involvement about surgical questions for their kids is legitimate. >> i don't think the science is where a lot of people on the trans rights universe say it is fury blockers stuff, has real dramatic consequences. and there's a lot of sort of social contagion stuff involved

in a lot of this that you don't want to make permanent life life-changing surgical alterations to people, make it impossible for them to have kids unless you really understand what's going on. and that's going to have to be sort of on a case let me bring live with, but this is this is what i love about hearing the two sides of this debate from you. is that on the one hand, you don't want the state to be involved when it has to do with kids you know, coming out and having them be protected and on the other hand, no actually, we're going to have this state legislate that it is it is not right for parents in supporting their children in this journey and so you can't i think what is so disingenuous about this debate is that you can't have it both ways. you can't say on the one hand you don't want parents involved in on the other hand, you do on parents. >> i just disagree with that first of all i said it's complicated and i didn't want to freeze parents completely out of this. parents should be involved in having a say-so about the surgical procedures

for kids at the same time, one can draw distinctions between life changing permanent surgical operations, right? if parents want to, i know it's a bad analogy. but if a kid wanted to have his arm cut off, the state, we would all agree the state should intervene. >> isn't fast. isn't that analogy, but i why make it? >> it's the government should stay out of these decisions. >> this is not the government staying not at the sciences where the government and its unclear under nurse and i'll just say that i don't think the evidence is there, and i think that it actually is entirely reasonable states to say that we're going to protect children from dangerous irreversible procedures when this when the proof is there, but the bottom five, what i was saying in the case of california is that look, you know, short of having this preemption which are brennan communities from working this out. i would object to that, but actually do think the 25 states one other aspect to this because we did talk about it in the introduction. elon musk, who says the california parental notification bannon's

goals is the final straw pushing him to move some of his headquarters to texas. musk posted this the goal of this diabolical law is to break the parent-child relationship and put the state in charge of your children, kara, as you well know musk has a trans daughter and he blames the progressive school that she went to for the breakdown of their relationship what do you make of that? and this whole question of whether or not schools should be keeping information or being forced to give information. >> i think what he's saying is absolutely nonsensical has to do with taxes for elon musk. he wants to he wants to tax situation. he tends to do these things. he does have from people close to him, he's quite enraged about his his trans daughter, i think he's terrible how he's behaving and the things he says because he says a lot of anti-trans things on top of this. and then it gets in this self-righteous mode, which i think is nonsensical. i think elon musk does. what's good for elon musk and everything.

>> we're is seeing this is a tension here. >> these are children who are indeed vulnerable and we know from statistics and everything that children who are vulnerable, who are transgender or often excluded from their family, they're often people who are on the street are very vulnerable and so, and so this is people are not going to settle this today. i'm not going to sell this here, but speaking of laws, why did the mayor of paris do something that's been illegal there for a century. plus, you know, the old saying, ice cream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream, but which flavor? the nation's top pick. >> next tomorrow on the whole story, political violence has always threatened microsoft after the attempt on trump's life. where does america go from here? the whole story with anderson cooper, political violence, america as bloody history tomorrow at ten and on cnn right now, pet dander skin

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unbelievable i'm bill, we're on the california coast and this is cnn once again, is somebody get our group's yea or nay, on some big talkers up first using the d word to catch csm xi's. we're talking about a growing trend, especially among millennial couples called sleep divorce, where partner to sleep in separate rooms to get a better night's rest. >> the american academy of sleep medicine says 35% of americans now sleep and another room sometimes are always. and there are benefits including improved sleep quality and overall health. reduced nighttime disturbances, but from things like snoring and potential for a better mood and

function during the day. kara, are you yea or nay, on sleep divorcing your spouse? >> i'm going to get a big day, but i do like sleeping. >> i do ai sometimes go in the other room and go to sleep largely because the toddler comes in and starts kicking me. but i do like sleeping alone. >> so when you leave your wife with a toddler and you go sleep by yourself, correct? >> that is correct. >> now, than taking the toddler so that you can let your wife sleep by herself? >> i don't know what to tell you. i this is the way this is the situation she's a saint we already knew that jonah do the goldberg's ever sleep in separate rooms. so we have a problem. i'm a snore. i have a superpower. i can sleep on command and my wife, if she gets can up, she cannot get back to sleep. and so we will often sleep separately. i don't think it's ideal in the platonic realm of ideals. i think couples should sleep together. but in real reality, it can't always be that way.

>> this is turning out to be a real thing all right, next proving the paris olympics are readily by doing something that's been illegal for more than a century. the mayor of paris this week swam in the seine river trying to show the water is pollution-free and ready to host some swimming events when the summer games kicked, go off next week, the city has invested one-and-a-half billion dollars to improve water quality but many experts say it's still not safe. and some olympic athletes are worried lulu is swimming very proud of this is swimming in the seine insane okay. >> first, let me just acknowledge that beautiful pun and i covered many olympics and the only good thing about the olympics i'm not olympics fan because i've covered it, covered rio bankrupt at this city is that it causes a lot of money to go flow into the coffers of the city to enact things like this. and so i am a big yay on this because it even

if it's not perfect, it's much better than it was. and that's going to have long term benefits for the inhabitants of badly ryan quickly here, because i want to get to our third story. there. they're going to hold the triathlon part of it there in the river, the marathon swim. but the problem is that when it rains, the e coli level rises. so are you dive in in or not? >> i am. sorry. but, you know, in 2028, it's going to be in sunny los angeles. the beautiful, wide open pacific or in a beautiful chlorinated pool, i say wait until 2028 to get your swimming fix. >> finally, after a week of record heat in parts of the country, we want to end our yea or night in a cool way tomorrow is nationalized scream dei, which gives us an excuse to discuss what is the best flavor and believe it or not? there's a group that tracks this the nation's top pick is vanilla, which comes in first in 19 states chocolate is a close second. my favorite chocolate chip is not tops in any state,

but mint chocolate chip is in force au gang what's your favorite player and how do you like to enjoy it? lula pistachio, because it reminds me of italy like gelato and in a cup because i liked it with fudge. and that's jonah. >> i have been a coffee ice cream guy since i was a little kid and i've never been shaken off of it. i prefer it on a cone because i eat at fast enough that i don't get my hands dirty choice, kara the classic. >> i'm a classic out and i have a classic ice cream. the ice cream sandwich best thing ever right? i'm proud to say that my wife is an accomplished scooper who has a teenager worked for many years at greater ice cream in louisville, kentucky, and she turned me on to the delicious, delicious bourbon brown butter pecan in a cone of course, as john mclaughlin would say, wrong, the best is chocolate chip. >> in a cop. the panel is back with their takes on hot stories or what will be in the news before its knows.

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>> okay. i'll put down my ice cream my best shot is another nod to the convention. one of the things that really struck me as an iconic moment was of course, the rap song that was played there. let's watch you know who we don't we vote in donald trump baby ever me safe yes, that is for geode blow and amber rose, the former progressive feminist, who is now a trump supporter. >> and that was trump, trump baby. and if you if you can name that tune, it is based on ice. ice baby from that iconic player of vanilla ice, which is part of the part of the, part of the ice cream. >> okay. rayan bibi netanyahu israeli prime minister, is going to be in town this week. you said you could have some impact on domestic american politics. >> i think he can. this is going to be a really big test

for democrats right now, because over 200 congressional staffers have said they are going to protest his address before congress now, if democrats can keep this under wraps, that's going to be a big part of them convincing folks that they are not incredibly divided and incredibly radical on a foreign policy issue that matters to a lot of americans and a lot of swing voters kara best shot, i was going to talk about all the tech bros that are giving money to trump, but i think i'm going to focus on kamala harris here because she has a lot of ties in among tech people, rich tech billionaires and i think she, and also in hollywood. >> so i think one of the things that will be important for her is show me the money she is an ability to raise he's vast sums of money from them and jonah, you have another of your fearless protections as you sit there ice cream cone in hand, that's right. so back to the conventions there was a lot of chatter, not on front of cameras about how jd vance's speech was somewhat lackluster.

not a lot of cadence, not a lot of charisma. and it was assigned for some people that this guy, maybe he doesn't have the experience and the national limelight that some might have hoped. and this coronation that he's the future of maga, he's the shoe in for 2028 and all that kind of stuff. i think that's going to get a pretty serious reappraisal over the next couple of months is people see him campaign and have to learn on the job a bit why, what's, what are they going to find out about them? >> well, look, he's only one run a political race and you want it in a state where the republican governor of ohio overperformed him by, by 20 points, right? and we're trump over performed him as well. he doesn't have natural chops as a politician you don't want to this is the, only, the second race he's ever done 18 months later or something like that. and i just think we're going to see some stumbles and heavens explaining his differences with donald trump, his conversion story, talking to the mainstream media in a way that actually converts voters. he doesn't have a lot of experience talking to audiences that don't alter ego agree with him. >> well, that's part of the front of a presidential campaign. and i bet he knows

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