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cnn breaking news. >> tonight. vice president harris appears to be consolidating many of the democratic party's factions and leaders behind her candidacy for president of the united states, just hours after president biden shock the political world with his sudden announcement that he would not in fact seek a second term. all 50 democratic party state chairs have signaled their support for the vice president, as have a number of potential opponents, potential ones for the democratic presidential nomination. and moments ago, the democratically aligned pac act blue said today has been their biggest fundraising day of the 2024 cycle. they said grassroots supporters have raised $46.7 million for vice president harris is presidential campaign the vice president tonight says in a statement, quote, i am honored to have the president's endorsement and my intention is to earn and win this nomination. she also said quite what i will do, everything in my power to unite the democratic party and unite our nation to defeat donald trump

and his extreme project 2025. agenda biden's exit from the race comes almost four weeks exactly before the democratic national convention begins. and after biden had suffered dozens of defections from democratic congressional lawmakers unhappy with his debate performance and persistent concern turns about his ability to serve another four years in office, or phil mattingly reported a short time ago, there's sources to a biden's closest advisers presented him data on saturday that showed him a path to victory was quote, basically non-existent. >> we start tonight with massachusetts democratic congressman seth moulton, who had called for president biden to exit the race. it's congressman moulton, thanks for joining us. you endorsed vice president harris this afternoon. how does this nomination process play out in an ideal scenario? and who is your favorite to be her running mate? >> well, we don't know exactly how it's going to play out. a lot of people are calling for an open process. i think that's fine. i think that a vice president harris is going to earn and win this nomination

as she said, it doesn't mean it's going to be a coronation. i think that's good for the democratic party, but it's amazing how much support she's already consolidated. she has tremendous resources. she can tap into all the campaign infrastructure that the president already has on the ground across the country. and she has the experience of shadowing him for four years in the white house. she's she's clearly the most ready to take up the reins here and ensure that we have a good chance of winning this election. >> the republican speaker of the house, mike johnson, wrote in a statement, quote, as second in command and a completely inept a borders are harris has been a gleeful accomplice, not only in the destruction of american sovereignty, security and prosperity, but also in the largest political cover up in us history, she has known for as long as anyone of president biden's income aucity to serve, it is clear that republicans are going to pounce on both harris's record on immigration. but what do you make of this cover up line of attack, which was also highlighted today by the republican national committee and vice presidential nominee, j.d. vance. you yourself have

said publicly that when you saw president biden at normandy few weeks ago, he didn't seem to recognize who you were well, look, i think there are some questions that people will ask here, but if this is the best argument that they can come up with against the vice president. >> it shows that republicans are already in on the defensive here, that they're concerned. they clearly wanted to run against biden. they now have a nominee or a potential nominee they least who brings tremendous energy, courage, vision, and the experience of a career prosecutor to run to prosecute this case against donald trump. i think donald trump's in for a real run for his money. as soon as they see vice president harris on the debate stage, they're going to be very concerned. and she also has this amazing position should of being able to embrace the best parts of the president's legacy, like the chips and science act, the bipartisan infrastructure law that republicans across the country are praising, even though many of them voted against it, of course, while also having the freedom to

distance herself from policies where she might have disagreed with president biden. that's a great position to be in. and as she unfolds her platform in the coming days, i think you're going to see she's in a very strong position to prosecute this case against donald trump given what you described in your piece in the boston globe about president biden not recognizing you given accounts from people like george clooney who say that when he saw president biden in los angeles june, it was the same person that everybody else saw on the debate stage, given the debate performance, given other accounts of president biden seeming to have cognitive issues, do you have any doubts about his ability to finish out the remainder of his term? from, everything we've seen today, jake, he's able to make the decisions that he needs to make as commander in chief, i think this is a legitimate question. i'm not going to deny that this is a legitimate question, but i have confidence in the president today to continue doing his job as president of the united states. >> all right. congressman seth moulton. thank you so much for your time. good to see you.

>> good, to see you too, jake we're joined now by our jeff zeleny for more on harris's candidacy. >> so what are you hearing from democratic sources about prison biden's decision and what it means for vice president harris i, understand vice president harris began the day as joe biden's running mate. she's ending the day looking for one of her own. >> and that really ends this extraordinary bookend of american politics that up ended this presidential campaign. >> but it's been extraordinary to watch hour by hour by hour since president biden and offered his endorsement, other democratic endorsements also kept coming through. let's take a look at just a few of those. it started with former president bill clinton, and secretary hillary clinton john kerry, of course, the former secretary of state and democratic presidential nominee back in aufor, pete buttigieg, senator patty murray, some 25 senators, more than 60 house members but perhaps more importantly, of all some of her rivals are people who thought that would be the rivals also offer their endorsement and gavin newsom, for example,

north carolina governor roy cooper the list goes on and on, but really the extraordinary support also is extending out to the state delegations, 50 chairs, all democratic chairs have endorsed her in a phone call the tennessee delegation endorsed her. i spoke with the tennessee chair earlier and he said he believes it's important to show the country that the democratic party is unified around someone, but particularly the ones that the people we are looking at tonight potential running mates. we know that north carolina governor roy cooper is someone who has a relationship with vice president harris. they served as attorney general's together. those two spoke on the phone earlier today. also, governor josh shapiro, of course, of pennsylvania, mark kelly of arizona. certainly he has a strong life story. governor gretchen whitmer is the only a person on this screen there who has not offered her endorsement yet of the harris campaign. however, she did speak on a staff call in michigan and she said it's all time to get in

behind the harris campaign. so even as all this was going on it has now called a harris for president campaign literally the name on the door has changed. so anderson, it's been an extraordinary david, as we near an end to it, she's coalesced so much support. there is still time, of course, for other democrats to throw their names in but that looks like an increasingly closing window here for the idea of an open convention. >> yeah, let's talk about that time. i mean, how soon? what other democratic candidates have to declare in order to be competitive for the vice president look, it's a bit of a moving target here. >> this a virtual roll call that we've been talking about so much is likely to happen between august 1st and august 7. that is the windows. so by then, someone would have to do the work that the vice president has been doing all day long so we will see if anyone sort of raises their hand here. but the number of people who would do that, it really is diminishing. so as this week goes along, most democrats were speaking with things that she will have it

wrapped up former president barak obama is one of the democrats. nancy pelosi as well. they have not endorsed her but i am told that is more to make this look like an open process, a competitive process that she needs to sort of win people over. an aide to former president obama tells me tonight that he's going to play the same role he played in the 2020 primary campaign. just sort of wait and be the unifying factor. should he need to be after all this process, anderson, but we cannot state enough how much work that the vice president has done throughout the day of course, this is a contingency plan has been put into place, just only thanks very much. >> joined once again by our reporters and political analysts also join me empty scaramucci, white house communications director briefly under former the former president anthony. first of all, what's your reaction to this remarkable events today? and do you think moderate republicans independents would be on board with kamala harris

candidacy? >> i mean, my first reaction is a little bit of sadness for president biden, given his long tenure and career and then my second reaction is he's a very faithful patriot and public servant, and i would call on other public servants. so which would include people like governor romney even some of the generals like general kelly and others to think about the sacrifice that president biden just made and to recognize the danger of a return of a donald trump presidency. and i think he led here in a way that will be long remembered. and there are a group of people that know the danger of donald trump they need to speak out now the same way. joe biden made this sacrifice on behalf of the american people. these other public servants and political leaders need to do the same thing. those are the thoughts that i haven't of course, the independence will coalesce around the vice president remember there are 14 states now anderson that you can no longer have reproductive freedom in. and i think this is

a very big danger for the republican party. i think they've miscalculated this. and there's a big opportunity here for vice president harris they take the mantle of leadership for the democrats and beat donald trump in november. >> okay, then obviously the trump campaign wanted, it seems, president biden to be the candidate. what is their next move? >> and they're going to be watching closely. i mean, we're seeing tonight the forces that are kind of coalescing behind vice president harris. it's still not 100% that she is going to be the nominee. but a but they're already looking at if you look at what campaign aides to donald trump and his allies are posting on twitter. there already finding everything that she said and democratic debates in the 2020 prime democratic primary, anything that she said any moment from her first year in office as vice president, there resurrecting all of that. so i do think it is a known quantity of what it is that they're going to try to use against her. what did she say about fracking? what did she say about electric vehicles? all of these other issues they're going to be pulling all of that. but they're also watching really closely to see what this

means. what did the numbers look like when you actually can see polling? there's hypothetical polling of what a head-to-head matchup with donald trump would look like. but if that becomes a reality and she's the nominee, what does that look like? and i don't want hillary clinton came out and got behind harris as the nominee earlier. she is a woman who knows what it's like to run against donald trump for the presidency to be on that debate stage with him. and so i thought that was notable as well because that's a question of what that dynamic looks like for donald trump. he knows how to run been against joe biden. he already did it in 2020. he was preparing to do it now. and after that debate, thought it would go well, it's an open question of what it would be like to have him against vice president harris know one thing is very interesting. >> we have spent three-and-a-half years talking about what kaitlan just mentioned of people talking about kamala harris's i bowls or any flaws she may have had an speech or what her laugh is like i think we're just not used to hearing women laugh who are in power, but but did we hear all these questions about her, here's the thing. no one

has spent $1 defending kamala harris, democratic party. we've never had a promotional add about kamala harris and a democratic party, yet she is in the margin of error with donald trump au, many of these polls, i think there's a lot of room to grow for the vice president to get more popular ones. people actually start a concerted effort to defend her, which we haven't really seen yet. >> i think there are three contests are happening right now. there's a contest. so who's going to be nominated by the democratic party right now, looks like kamala harris is running away with it right now. she's a steamroller somebody might be able to stop. we're not clear contest. who's going to be number two? allow the people who we thought were going to be challenging now for number one, might be actually going for number two number three, there is a contest to define kamala harris. and i think that republicans are in for a surprise because we're seeing energy now that is shocking to a lot of people before it was going to be the old man versus the con man. that was the frame. now it's going to be the prosecutor versus the prosecuted. that's going to be the frame. i don't think they're ready there are

19,000 wins on a phone call, right now. so take a eddie's organization, a win with black women has 19,000 women tonight nobody saw that coming. and it's not going to be just black folks. you also have young people that you can't just win with just lifeboats, netflix, but they matter the mere fact that some of the the tiktok upsurge is happening right now. people remixing kamala harris is dance moves, taking her statements and remixing it with they not like us. there's something happening as a volcano and i think it's because when you think you're going to lose and you spend three weeks miserable sad, upset, imagining what it's going to be like to have non-trump president. and you have a tiny crack of hope. it just explodes and you're right now you seeing an explosion? >> yeah. i think these things are so presidential campaigns are so interesting because the dynamics can shift you know, in ways that you never anticipate

very, very quickly we left milwaukee on friday g, they had this was quite a week. >> it has escaped death. he he had this convention that was well, produced and it looks like they've got their act together whether they're unified and so on. and this thing is it feels like it's over and then and now just listening to you van, i'm like i expect there'll be a parade outside i mean, we should but it also should be a good day tomorrow election to that these that we really don't know what's going to happen. i'm here, but what we do know is that this is now a race and it wasn't yesterday that may shook up the soda bottle and well i'm pretty frankly stunned by this. democrats coalescing how quickly this happened in this whip operation and that she's very likely going to go on contested and because its the short-run window, it's really it's 33 months in a week until election

day. i think that you're going to see a lot of these people that she's, you know, vetting as vice president were senators who have come out and endorse her. they're going to be deploying them to swing states. one of my frustrations with the biden campaign is they had surrogates, but the operation wasn't strong. this feels like democrats being like all hands on a person every time i'll in the party is going to go out and make the case and they finally have something forward looking to talk about, which is a young, vibrant candidate. >> this is going to be a big test of whether or not the trump campaign is really about biden's policies, or whether it's about joe biden being old and i think there's actually a lot of evidence in the data that suggests that biden's age, his fitness for office this has been the major dragging force of his approval rating for the last couple of years now. and so there is something that changes the race about that, even though they want to run on the same record, they want to say kamala harris is joe biden, same record. she's a completely different person and that does different things. it's to the base, it's going to do different things to moderate voters. and talking to

democrats. obviously, we've been talking about her options for the second person on the ticket, but there's a lot of consensus, even among progressives is actually kind of hilarious to me liberals, very left-wing people are like, okay she needs a moderate white guy democratic kind of wildly pragmatic in this moment because we got a day or so desperate for something that changes the dynamic of this race and allows it and to have a shot at beating trump. >> give me, give me a skunk at the garden party moment. he has just as an admonition first of all, yes, you're absolutely right. the age issue was the issue that drove a lot, but the way the message worked was he is too old. he is not in command and things are out of control and under that heading came inflation, came the border they're depiction of crime despite whatever the crime

statistics actually our but crime in the cities those issues are still going to be potent. they may rotate them in some way. and so she has to be prepared for how she's going to deal with those issues. the second thing is what i've i've said through at this night, which is a barack obama used to say when we were running i am proudly of the black community, but i'm not limited to it. and i'm running to be president of the whole country you know, i've heard people who are advocating for the vice president tonight and sometimes in the context of very narrow kind of parameters and she she needs and she can get more votes than simply the base. and that's where their focus should be because i think it's going to be easier in certain ways to rally the base than it is to get the additional votes they need everywhere should we haven't mentioned yesterday, i

gotta go is abortion. and i do think david brings up all these other issues around the economy and immigration and whatever. but in 2020 that was the ation abortion that was the issue. abortion and then freedom and democracy that really moved voters in the last mid-term and i think people are still banking on those, those issues moving again this year, anthony, what do you think vice president harris is biggest vulnerabilities are as a candidate i did number one thing they're going to pray on is the immigration issues. >> they they they think she owns that butt up against that. is there wanting to deport 15 million people once that reality sets in for the american people those communities are not going to want that, but i think it's the immigration issue. but think of the positive you for one second anderson, she has joe biden's record to run on. and it is a very good record. he has onshoring manufacturing. he's building bridges, roads, and

tunnels around the country. we even have microprocessor factories being built in the country economy is. healing and growing. and it's the most powerful economy in the world right now. and she is very bright and very articulate and she can energetically tell that story. and all of those swing states kaitlan, cnn is learning that the, the trump campaign, they've been researching dnc rules and bylaws. >> do you know to what effect what they were worried that they find themselves in this scenario. i mean, it's a shock to everyone that this actually happened. i think even though you could see that drumbeat building, but they were looking out to be prepared for this. this was something they were watching closely when they were their own convention. we've seen how they've changed their own rules to benefit donald trump and one. thing if you notice, if you paid attention to the other speeches, they weren't all aired in primetime last week at the republican convention, but they started hours before that. harris was brought up so many times and people speeches, peter navarro, other allies of donald trump's,

a lot of them mispronounced her name probably intentionally, which is something you often see a lot of hard to track jurors do on other outlets. and i think that they were preparing for this moment kind of laying the groundwork of what this could look like if this moment did arrive, where it was clear that potentially people would get behind her. i think people or we could go thought there would be more of a competitive race to take the nominee than what we're seeing play out seven hours since biden announced he is not going to be in the race i will note one other thing though, is harris is going to be leaning on these top democratic allies, the ones that have been having these very blunt conversations with president biden. i'm told tonight that senator schumer and harris plan to meet soon. obviously, they had a conversation earlier. all of those moments will be critical and to what the next few weeks look like for her eye on the on the trump campaign and they're concerned about the dnc rules. one of the things that they've been looking at is whether or not they have grounds to challenge a change at the top of the democratic ticket i i'm not a lawyer, but but but at

this stage, it's early enough that democrats seem well within their rights to do that. but i don't think we can take off the table an attempt at any number of lawsuits, legal challenges, all kinds of things. they might just throw spaghetti at the wall to try to muck up the works on this one. ai in a conversation with top trump campaign official to ask about this and the answer was, we're not we're not going to talk about that, but we are we're going to keep all of our options. this is something that they're they have a plan for as well. but the timing of this, i think works out best in democrats favor if they can get this locked up before that august 1 to seventh window, it will allow them to be well within their own rules to establish a nominee, to have the delegates vote, and to go into their convention knowing what that looks like and the challenges. if there are any would be frivolous just say a word about this i've heard speaker of the house and others

in the last 24 hours talk about what was in affront to democracy brasil if, if they, if biden were taken off the ballot and the disenfranchiseme nt of voters think this is a weird argument for this ending. >> what happened on january 6, i think i would stay away from it if i thank everybody money talks big. bucks democratic donors have had a lot to say now that biden is out the 2024 race. pamela brown on the money moves being made after the president's endorsement of vice president harris, that's next we bad up for a minute boys and girls were going to go to c-word, chad mecca academy class size is one start your free trial and save $100 today

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weeknights at seven on cnn just to demonstrate how. democrats are coalescing or on a potential harris for president campaign. the biden-harris campaign store is now listing various camila merchandise under its what's new section, including a t-shirts, stickers and a mug featuring a picture of a young kamala harris hello brown joins us now with more on. tonight's breaking news. what have you been hearing from donors memo well, i was speaking to several donors along with my colleague jamie gangel and what the sense is from speaking to them is that money is now rolling in. >> one donor told us tonight, i'm going to go in big, the since we got from several donors, some of them were big ticket donors, others were on the while her side also fundraisers. we spoke to. was that there had been a lot of hesitation after the debate. people were holding their money, they even withheld money that they had already pledged. and now they are essentially opening up their purses again with this news about joe biden stepping aside in the presidential race and his endorsement of kamala harris

and they are putting money behind kamala harris right now. now, it is important to note as well that strategy behind this anderson. a lot of the people we spoke to admitted that, yes, it is important to in these early hours raise a lot of money for kamala harris to send the signal that she should be atop the ticket. we did speak to some though who are uneasy about this saying, look, there should be a more competitive process that should play out here, but there's still going to donate. so there is that dynamic at play. but the bottom line is that the biden-harris campaign formally amended filings with the fec to declare her as a candidate for president. and as she remains on the ticket, she could assume the war chest from the campaign by the end of june, it was 96 million. and what you're seeing here is just a reinvigoration from these donors and people who would stop their fund raising plans for july and august, those are back on as well so certainly a new energy today. >> and what about small-dollar donors?

>> yeah, that is really important to note what we are hearing from small dollar donors, from act blue, which, which of course gets donations from those small donations, $5, $10. they got $27.5 million in the first five hours of harris presidential campaign. then get this anderson just two hours later at blue said 46.7 million donations have rolled in. that is an increase of $19 million. in a two hour span to help drive this, you're also seen members of congress like adam schiff, send out fundraising emails pushing those grassroots voters to actblue. but certainly that is also sending a very strong message here of the support among not just the big ticket donors, but the small ticket donors as well behind kamala harris in these early hours, anderson, thanks so much. >> all right let's discuss with our panel, bakari, let's start with pam pamela brown, new reporting. are you

surprised at how much money is coming in so quickly? no, not at all. one of the things kamala harris has always been from district attorney attorney general, a united states senator, to candidate for president of the united states was a great fundraiser yesterday when they were in i forget where they where it was one of the rich parts of the country. cape cod, i think it was i think that's the way it was like martha's vineyard of cape cod somewhere where we don't really travel much from south carolina, but shout out to all those folks up there. they were supposed to raise $1 million, but they raised $2 yesterday. she secretary buttigieg and so you now it's also energy. i mean, grassroots don't i just had one of my good friends, janicia load, who takes me. she's a delta but she's a part of the divine nine. she's like i just contributed. not tell me how to get tickets to the dnc. i mean, it's just a new energy for the past four weeks. we just give our busted and had kicked in democrats. it's just not a whole lot to be excited about. we always find ourselves fighting and fighting and trying to tell a message and talk about project 25 to 2025. but whenever that happens you know just the headwinds we were facing and those of us out there who really want it to

stand with joe biden. it was it was a difficult job because of the headwinds we were facing. those headwinds are not there anymore. and so now we get the envelop are and doing something, joe biden said he wanted done, which has finished the job. and i think kamala harris is going to be able to do that and raise the money to do it. okay. >> yet more evidence that we're living in a simulation. of vice president harris is going to speak tomorrow at the white house. she'll be honoring the nc ncaa championship teams. like if he thought this was being written by aaron sorkin i assume you think we're going to hear something that might be related to her running for president. >> i would imagine all those she's doing in an official event, so i wouldn't expect it to be like a real campaign speech. and i think she wants to give president biden the space to talk to the american people about his decision beyond the letter that he sent today to step down from this race, but she's you really want to save it? >> saying it was already it was already on the president's schedule. she just stepping in as vice president. >> he's he's not going to be there because he's still convalescing from kaitlyn one more day in rehoboth instead, we're living in a simulation

yes. i would imagine, obviously we're going to pay a lot more attention to the sentencing up lave and we ever thought we were going to be paying attention tomorrow. i see now are college league betsy klein notes that they've re-branded the rapid response social media operation under now, camila hq they're calling it instead of biden-harris hq. so all the mechanics, all that infrastructure that we've talked about, about why it logistically is this is the path of least resistance we're seeing that come to fruition. i also think jake, in addition, we talked about all her potential opponents that may have thrown their hat in the ring that aren't endorsing her. we've talked about the union groups that have certain coalition groups and it's also interesting me, just watch the vulnerable incumbents, senators who were up for reelection this cheers bob casey in pennsylvania, sherrod brown in ohio, just within these first few hours getting out there and making it clear that they are also with kamala harris, even though they are part of the reason biden made this move,

right? that they were assessing what does this do to my chances on the ballot. and yet they're coming in in support of her now, i said to you earlier that for kamala harris and her team, it's really like creating the plane while you fly it but maybe not so much because there has been some quiet a modeling of the plane just to keep the analogy going. >> as the as it had been more and more clear over the past couple of weeks that president biden is like would be likely to get out, although obviously i didn't think i didn't think it was likely to. >> i was just gonna say it was a roller coaster of sorts. one day was yes i really did was wrong well, let me say that. >> i mean, you can speak to this, but the preparation has obviously paid off because features to kind of take a step back and this is sort of where it was going with my point the fact that we all not only woke

up this morning, you had a great show on state of the union with all this great news and all, all of this incoming and nobody including apparently the vice president, the united states, knew that this was going to happen until like 1:00 this afternoon eastern time. and the fact that here we are nine hours later, un all of this has happened, which is not just her work, but also the energy the change on a dime inside the democratic party from woe is me and i can't believe this too. who energy is exactly what democrats wanted and i do think, i mean, i haven't had a chance to say this. it is a testament to your former boss and the fact that this is not an easy thing to do. it was hard to get him there. he clearly was not understandably, was not happy about the way that many of his colleagues and people who did

support him were publicly pressuring him but he got there and this feels like a completely different region and we now have to see if that energy that you're talking about inside the democratic party translates broadly to the general election electorate. and does this change up actually change the game of this race, right you know, better than anybody it has to start with the energy and the energy isn't there with from within. >> it almost doesn't matter what the suburban swing voter is going to do. if you don't have the base, who's, who's going to get out there if they'd rather just sit home what's your understanding of how just as a former staffer who still has friends that work in the white house, what's your understanding? >> of of how difficult this was and is your is your understanding of the same as what phil mattingly reported that ultimately richetti and donlan, his two longest time aides, longest serving aides, i think since the 1980s, right? >> true. for mike. yeah. >> i came and just like presented him with data,

didn't say you have to drop out, but it's just data saying there's no path, it's done. and basically, he was confronted with you're not going to be president in january 2025. it's just a question of how you're not going to be president in january 20. yeah. >> i look at this. was this was an excruciating period of time, this three weeks was excruciating for joe biden, for the people who worked for him. i think you know, in my mind that actually just further underscores how significant it is that he made this decision and to dana's point, i mean, energy. we have seen energy kind of regenerate in the party tonight, which i think again, only goes to show you that he, you know, he really he did make a selfless decision here there's nobody that he, nobody is political acumen that he trusts more than mike donilon and steve richetti. we mike donilon has really been with him since 1981 and has been with him through every single up and out of his political career and so, you know, having having worked for him at times when he was in a political valley and looking mike and

steve and others for advice. i think i imagine that what happened that finally had him reckon with this was was mic saying to him i don't i don't see a path here and i think look, i think that's a testament to the fact that biden has people around him who he trust us, who care about him. i don't think we should take it lightly that he ultimately got to this place because i just think this was an incredibly hard decision and you can't i mean, here's the other thing about polling, right? i mean, this is kind of, we've talked about this over the course of this three weeks i mean, you can't look at a poll and say definitively, you will not be successful three-and-a-half. yeah, you can absolutely say your coalition of support is eroding the key voters you need to get there aren't going to get there, but you can't look at a head to head and say definitively, you cannot win this race in three-and-a-half, which is why i was told that he was it's telling some of his closest advisers, look back at this

point, bill clinton was third behind ross perot and georgia and as a reasonable. >> that's a reasonable thing to do if you're looking at the data. but again, i would just say i really think that reflects well, on the president that he was able to accept and get to this place and recognize that he didn't have the best shot to defeat donald he believes that donald trump cannot be president of the united states is certainly a contrast with how donald trump reacted when he actually lost an election in 2021 of the things i was going to say is david chalian and dana always bring up good points, but i think they brought up the central point of where we go from here, which is that this plane is being billed, as you said, in the air and we have that energy within the party and it's something that acts talks to me about all the time, just how to be a better elected official, how to see the world of politics, how to be a better public servant is how do you go out there and pull more people into your orbit? and one of the things i would say to kamala harris or whenever i have an opportunity to speak with her again is this campaign has to throw all caution to the wind

this campaign has to be big. it has to be magnanimous. that means that in one day, you have to go talk to white women in the suburbs of philadelphia that same day, you have to have a town hall with black men in detroit. you also have to go eat cheese curds in milwaukee, right? you have to be able to do those seems that some people were concerned about whether joe biden could actually do hit this stop, hit this stop, hit this stop, meet these people because at the end of the day, what is going to sell kamala harris is they're going to they're going to say she was a who they're going to talk about her laughter. they're going to talk about her being black. you're going to say intense, they're going to announce her name au and i hate that. oh my god, i hate that. that is so disrespectful. i don't know. it's smart people and they're going to say she's not born here. i mean, i hope the american public is really set on seeing what the underbelly of america, i don't want to just castigate the republican party. looks like she's going to have to be strong in the face of that. and do something that democrats do not do well, we sometimes find ourselves in this ivory tower.

kamala harris has to destroy them that ivory tower and meet voters where they are i mean, look, let's look at the real clear politics poll average unfavorable, 52.3% for the vice president. >> 38.1% favorability. that is a problem beyond the democratic base we know that this election will not be one would just a base alone. you are to your point going to have to reach beyond and move some of those swing voters. we have talked a little bit about some of the nikki haley voters. john king was talking about some of those voters are saying, we aren't comfortable necessarily avoiding for vice president harris. we don't think that she's up to the job. can she maintain that same coalition from 2020 that gave president biden the 81,000 vote difference across four states that led him to the white house. and that's a very serious mathematical and strategic questions to ask that democrats going to have to figure out. >> and it's also the burden of being vice president, right? because as vice president of the united states, i mean that job is just difficult because you don't get the charges are on course the messaging you get for the day is not what kamala harris feels in our heart that day and just naturally her gut,

but it's what the president wants you to do and she's been, she's been extremely loyal, but my pushback to you, michael, and when people get an opportunity to know her she's going to have to overcome a lot of those things that women in politics have to overcome, right? because she's been da, she's been attorney general. she's been united and a state senator, and she's been the first female who's been vice president of the united states of america. and if i put that on a table and you still want to choose somebody who went bankrupt. all of these times, who had trump's stakes, who had a non-profit or for profit college, et cetera, et cetera, and was a tv star then that is one thing. but she has to be able to make that case in show people the full body you know, who she is. >> and i think that's a fair point. i'm not going to go to the michael. he has never defaulted. i'm not going to go through the knee, but he does have trust did you buy those trumps sneakers know i like a nicer sneak not going to go to the things that you've just mentioned. >> but again, bakari we cannot, i suppose ignore that

consistent data that showcases some of the issues for the former vice president. and i want to be sensitive of the moment because this is a big moment for current vice president had this is a big moment for her. i don't want to take that away, but i'm a strategist. i have to be and look at the data and the data showcases this is not a shoo-in for her. know, but it does showcase that there are some hurdles. >> listen. >> he's going to have to overcome your echoing that i've had a lot of i've had a lot of black folk call me today and a lot of women call me today and say, well, if hillary clinton can't do it, then nobody can do it. they're not going to elect a black like person. they're not going to elect a black woman. and my response is always been you know, we have to believe in the things that have unseen. that's what makes this country great. and i believe she's going to have to tap into that and it's going to take a lot of luck. it's going to take a lot of quality campaigning, but we have to give you all have dreams that doesn't mean that dream will become a real thank you, everyone. >> more on how the public in playbook for winning back the white house could change. now the president biden has decided not to run in 2024, stay with us this situation with wolf

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amount of these folks in these rooms that i see that are pushing for president biden to not be the nominee also are not interested in seeing the vice president been the nominee know, aoc this evening has endorsed vice president harris. there there has been a wave of democrats rallying behind her. there are some notable democrats who have not yet come out in support of vice president harris. do you think that she vice president harris is the best democrat to take on trump? >> i do. i do because she's a prosecutor if mr. trump wants to know what's coming google the tape of when she was senator harris and she took on bill barr, then trump's attorney general, brilliant lawyer. bill barr is and she carved him up in the senate judiciary committee. absolutely. cardinal. right now, i guaranteed you donald trump than know whether the scratches, watch or wind is been okay. he has no idea what's about to come. this woman is going to put him on trial and she's already got

the frame. i first met her. she was a local prosecutor california running for attorney general, and she had this great stump speech. she's say my proudest moment is when i walk into a courtroom and i look at that, judge and say, your honor, on her kamala harris, for the people, well, there's her slogan and she's going to say, trump is for himself. i'm for the people. >> trump is for himself and i'm sure she's just going to she's going to tear into him and i just can't as a democrat cannot wait. >> this is why i think you're seeing so much enthusiasm david urban, i want to play something that was said by former republican presidential candidate governor nikki haley in january. take a listen the first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election she right now, she's wrong and listed jake, you'll remember if paul wants to talk about going watch the tape and watching how vice president kamala harris is going to do during debate. why don't you remind him, jake is you were the moderator of how tulsi

gabbard dismembered literally dismembered the now vice president and you're debate. and i think that was the end of her of her career as a presidential candidate. so paul may want to go back and look at some other tapes also, jake, as you know, and paul knows this too. and the commonwealth of pennsylvania, pennsylvania, and energy state might as well be texas and the vice president is vocally and vociferously see a poll host of fracking. she said, i will do everything in the same. you're not gonna be able to run bob casey. he's not going to able to run down-ballot. she's going to have to either have a pit funny and change your position on fracking or get some religion someplace else? >> paul begala, we heard from house speaker mike johnson talking about fracking. well, at least it's a policy issue, larry as paul, it's a policy issue speaker johnson today said the republican real yeah, i would likely to file legal challenges if president biden should, it should exit the race. biden hasn't been formally nominated potentially legal challenges concern you at all know the party has had

these rules for decades, maybe even over a century. >> this is how parties pick their nominees. and it tells you something that the republicans want to run to the courts. now, it tells you first they believed that the courts are rigged and they may be right about that. i don't know. >> but it also tells you that they're scared this is the thing you can always tell that zell miller, one of my mentors used to say a hit dog will holler. okay, when they're squealing like this is because they're scared if they weren't worried about comma whip in their guy, they'd be saying what we welcome her to the race and we wish her the best in the sort of thing that people used to say when politics was a little more of a genteel sport they're really, really worried and i don't diminish for accusation, but it's not a top of mind issue. you know, what is kamala harris going to turn it to trump into mr. vance, senator vance, his running mate and say, you're soft on putin, but hell on women almost take on vladimir putin and stand up to him. and defend americans, women who you're attacks and i just think that's a hell of a thing for somebody so dynamic and a woman like kamala harris to be

able to say, david, does this make this does what happens in today, make it tougher, easier or the same for donald trump to win in november? >> wasn't i think it's about it's a little it's the same, right, jake. listen, i will give you the enthusiasm and energy bakari was right before there was no the party was flat, people were rejected. now look, there's a glimmer of hope. it's, it reminds me of that. the line in dumb and dumber. so you're saying i got a chance there still a chance, right? that's where the party is right now. i'd paul listen. i know you haven't run a race and pennsylvania in a long time, but come on back to the state and see fracking is a big deal, buddy. it's a big deal, is a deal breaker. it cost hilary the election. so let's kamala harris, changes the stripes she's not going to win the commonwealth and neither is bob casey if he hopes his wagon door all right. >> david and paul. thank you so much. anderson, in the last hour, presidential historian doris kearns goodwin reminded us that lyndon b johnson was the last president to drop out of a reelection race. the year

was 1968 doors told me that johnson felt quote, relief and accolades after his decision and the same might be for president biden goodwin also talked with our randi kaye about johnson's surprise announcement. here's her report i do not believe that i should devote an hour. or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes, 56 years ago, president lyndon b johnson suddenly ended his campaign as joe biden didn today i shall not see and i will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president. that stunning announcement during what was billed as a speech about vietnam, shock to the country when he withdrew from the race. he talked about the fact that he just wanted to use those remains any months for presidential duties, hoping to bring the war in vietnam to a close rather than campaigning and the response was extraordinary at the time, there was widespread

disappointment and johnson's handling of the vietnam war and his approval ratings were down. like with joe biden, there were concerns about lbj's health and there were doubts he could win a second term. >> he'd done something for an ambition for the country rather than himself. that in all of his 37 years, he had never sacrificed himself this way. >> after johnson withdrew vice president hubert humphrey announced his candidacy senator robert f. kennedy of new york was also in the running for the nomination, but wouldn't survive the primary we season after declaring victory in the california primary in june 1968, kennedy was assassinated in los angeles at the ambassador hotel bobby kennedy was killed and then that summer they go to the democratic convention with the wars still going on chaos reigns the 1968 democratic convention, which also happened to be in chicago like this year's convention, followed not only the assassination of robert f kennedy, but also martin luther

king. >> the country he was in turmoil and protests have broken out over the vietnam war chicago mayor richard daley called up the national guard to protect the convention arena and put thousands of chicago police on 12 hour shifts. there were also tense moments on the convention floor among competing sets of delegates pushing to be seated. even some of the media was roughed up, including cbs's dan rather, while trying to talk with anchor walter cronkite from the convention floor workers. >> you can say i don't know what's going on, but this these are security people apparently around dan. obviously getting rough down what happened as a georgia delegate at least georgia delegate sign-on was being hauled out of the hall. >> we tried to talk to him to see why who he was and what the situation was. >> and at that instant for security people well, as you could say, put me on the deck i

didn't do very well i think we've got a bunch of thugs. here, dan if i may be promoted to say so well, module water, i'm alright. it's it's all in days worth in the end, hubert humphrey won enough support from delegates to become the nominee. >> but after all the upheaval in the party it wasn't in the cards for democrats that year republican richard nixon ultimately defeated humphrey to become the 37th president randi joins me now, did lbj give his aides much notice that he was going to drop out of the race well anderson back in 1968, president johnson had actually prepared to versions of that very famous speech, one that included his withdrawal from the race and one that did not. actually, nobody really knew which way he was going to go, including his vice president hubert humphrey. but years later, one of his former aides wrote in a memoir that even earlier your that day, the day of the speech, johnson still didn't know if he was actually going to end his campaign. in

fact, according to the book, johnson had said, i won't know whether i'm going to do this until i get to the last line of my speech. so apparently anderson, he figured it out just before he got to that last line and he did pull out. but it didn't end so well for his vice president at the time randi, thanks so much. the news continues. florida coates next this is what you want. >> this is what you that's a good day at the office for me. >> but iphone 12 with superfast 5g in a dual camera system then get real on limited data on the silver unlimited plan for just $20 a month for a whole year? >> that's $300 in savings, less dollars, more sense. >> now with straight talk, i was so excited to buy my first home, but i needed a lot of work done on it. >> i went on to angie, jamie with the first person to call. >> i explained to her some of the things i could do and shoulder some pictures. >> he's resurfaced my floor again, he's done plumbing work. he's refinished this beautiful

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