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monday, july 20th, second right now on cnn this morning it difficult and historic decision, president joe biden is not seeking reelection, becoming the first president to do so in over 50 years and upending the 20 24 race. >> now, vice president kamala harris, hoping to make the move into the oval office, how she plans to earn and win the vote of the people plus this i do think she's the best candidate here for calm because pamela, it's been here for the american people several top party leaders backing harris, one big name hasn't given an endorsement just yet though, and that is barack obama. plus, could senator i'm joe manchin, you preparing to check?
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all right. >> 6:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at the white house on this historic monday, the race to earn the right to live there, to run the country completely upended this morning. as history has unfolded fast and furious over the course of the last 20 some odd days. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us years of history unfolding in just 24 days on sunday president joe biden stepping aside vice president kamala harris stepping in. that moment, coming 106 days before election day and over a half a century since the last time a sitting president decided to end his bid for reelection. that was president lyndon b.
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johnson in march of 1968 i shall not seek and i will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president president biden's decision coming less than one month after he faced off against donald trump. >> at that debate, right here on cnn, a debate where biden started off like this thank you. >> sure. that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do with the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with what if we finally beat medicare biden's performance scene live by over 50 million people. >> and it's so alarmed democrats that conversations about replacing him began before he even stepped off that
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stage. and within weeks, they were becoming impossible to ignore until a man with a gun climbed atop a building in pennsylvania you something they said, take a look at what happened that assassination attempts, the first time an american president or candidate had been injured since ronald reagan was shot in 1981. a harrowing historic moment that led to this battle cry at the republican national convention, just days later i raised my right arm, looked at the thousands and thousands of people that were breathlessly waiting and started shouting, fight fight, fight rejected democrats watching an ecstatic rnc. and at the same time
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learning that there man was leaving the campaign trail biden sidelined by a covid diagnosis as the president isolated at his home in delaware, we learned that he began to rethink his place atop the democratic ticket. and now, just days later biden put out this letter yesterday. this is what he wrote, quote, it has been the greatest honor of my life to serve as your president and while it has been my intention to seek reelection, i believe it is in the best interest of my party and the country for me to stand down history made repeatedly, an election radically transformed in weeks so we watch and wonder together, what is history's next turn? our panelists here, alex thompson, national political correspondent for axios, elliot williams, cnn legal analysts, former deputy assistant attorney general, during the obama administration. kate bedingfield, former white house communications director for
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president biden, and jonah goal the editor in chief of the dispatch. thank you all for being here on this momentous day. i'm kate, i want to hear your reflections in a second, but alex, i just want to start with you on the reporting how we got here, how the president got here, because this was a very long, very long time coming yeah. >> i mean and while a lot of people are praising his decision today, let's be clear, this was not something that joe biden wanted to do. this was a reluctant seating of power that happened because that the fact that joe biden decided to do that debate early, the fact that whether or not you believe the reasons of travel schedule was the reason for the bad performance or something else that basically led to a panic and the party that nancy pelosi and other democratic leaders basically decided that this is not our guy as someone in the white house basically told me it was this was this was the party decided situation and joe biden, who has long long been a party man, has basically been in some ways the median
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democrat for his entire career basically said the party does not want me and came through inclusion that there was no path forward. >> kate bedingfield, a very difficult day for a lot of people that have worked for joe biden for many years. you are among them. >> but it did become i'm clear in the final days that there really was no path for president biden to win reelection. what do you know? what have you heard? how are you understanding everything that's unfolded? yeah. it is a really difficult day for the people who work with him and who've worked with him for a long time and who believe in what he was able to achieve in defeating trump? than 2020 and what he's been able to do in the first four years as president so it's an emotional time but i think he ultimately looked at the the lay of the land and said i accept that i can't win. and i think actually the fact that he didn't want to make the decision in some ways means he should get more credit for it, but he put country ahead of self that he said, i'm not the
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best standard bearer to defeat somebody who i think poses an existential threat to our country. and so i'm going to do something. i don't want to do, and i'm going to step aside and there aren't that many moments, at least in modern political history where a candidate that it, a political figure says, i don't believe that i am the solution. that's a really rare that is a really rare thing. and so i just as somebody who worked for him for a long time cares about him personally knows how hard this decision is and also just how hard the last three-and-a-half weeks have been. i mean, this is somebody who as always so saying as has been a loyal democrat his entire life and has had to watch as you know, a lot of people that he's worked very closely with have been very critical in a really sometimes personally humiliating way over the last three-and-a-half weeks. that is a really hard thing for anyone to have to endure. >> jonah, you're a student of history what do you see first
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of all we have to for the rest of our lives, we can't just glibly say as i normally do, debates, don't matter right? that's over and i kinda the most consequential one in history that you should i mean, i think the most consequential 15 second moment in debate history that sort of moment that the beat medical we saw i think he is cumulative performance and i think the sort of argumentum ad jon meacham to try to find historical parallels here and against like, i mean, we're gonna go back to britain for behaves or something. >> would you actually is a good historical parallel, but this is why i asked, you know, i think what ai i think that one of the problems we deal with in this age is that reserve a rule of thumb that says, if you don't know how something works, you think there's a conspiracy going on and this is
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true about people's theories about the media, theories about all sorts of things in politics, curious about in the presidential assassination attempt i think there are a lot of legitimate questions about how this whole thing rolled out and i agree that the party decides which just for viewers is a big insider police tsai term that applies here, but it's sort of like hemingway's bankruptcy. the party decided very, very slowly and then suddenly right because this is not something that biden wanted to do voters were telling elites in washington and in the party for two years, this is a real problem and then it was only at ms cascade effect at the very end. and that's going to be studied for a long time to your historical point. and just think about to speak with almost a tale of two speeches in august. imagine if president biden had stayed in the speech, he would have given on the final day of the convention. just think about how everyone in the country would have picked that speech apart every flub he made any mistake, even
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though the substance might have been perfectly defensible even if ever the same subs is that kamala harris. or whoever else might have given it would have been eviscerated. that speech compare that to joe biden on the first night of the democratic national convention in essentially essentially giving george washington's farewell address saying for the good of my country, i am stepping down in handing over to a new generation, even if it's painful for people who are around him to watch that as a historic moment that we are never going to forget as a country, whether you like joe biden or not, this he created here something that might've been personally difficult, but it's going to create a moment that will be in the highlight reels forever. >> yeah we are just a remarkable morning now i will say we have done this serious history coming up here on cnn this morning, we're going to go with a little bit of art imitating life i'm not leaving potus is leaving not going to run for a second term. >> i'm going yes what did not
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see that coming kamala harris, hoping to be the next democratic nominee, top leaders already lining up behind her plus later on this hour, senator joe manchin joins me live for his first interview since biden announced this news, will manchin throw his name? and the ring no, at your help that i seek first as today i announced my candidacy for president of the united states of america on the edge, moments that shaped our culture coming this fall on cnn so don't let that chip spoil your trade that
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wednesday night dynamite aid on tbs carrie. >> yeah it's course. >> you are. i mean, there's always hope, ma'am, we've got plenty of hope in this war no, no. >> i mean if back to become breadth already imitating life. kamala harris, be crude vice president, waking up this morning to an entirely new reality in the presidential race one that could put her on the path to become the first black woman. and first asian american to lead a major political party ticket. now america has gotten to know her over the past four years as she has served as president biden's number two but many were first introduced to her
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when she ran for president against him in the democratic primary in 2020, just a little flashback to that i stand before you today. clear-eyed about the fight ahead. and what has to be done. iskandar for you today? >> to announce my candidacy president of the united so of course, to all of you kamala harris has been very busy working the phones behind the scenes for statement said very clearly, if she wants to earn the democratic nomination, jonah and i think that that says a lot about the fears in her camp. >> i mean, they have been very careful as they have approached this not to show that they are entitled to it. what kind of job you think she's doing around that so far do you think this is locked down? what's next? >> yeah. >> i think she's going to be the nominee you leave seen this. i think it was very smart
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to come out to leak, which clearly they did. the list of potential vp's and all of a sudden that kind of changed the game theory for a lot of people who said, you know, i'm probably not going to win this but i should come out early so that i'm in consideration and there is sort of a galvanic effective about all of that i think it would be good for her and i think they kind of know it to have some sort of competitive process here. even if it was a kabuki theater kind of thing you're going to talk to joe manchin about this but i don't know what that looks like at this point. you know, joe manchin is not going to be the guy so i don't think kamala harris is the best candidate for the democratic party, but she is the path of least resistance candidate and she's going to be the nominee. >> well, i think look, i don't sure. i would just define her as only the path of least resistance canada. there's no question, there's going to be a close race. i mean, this is i think this is sort of been the delusion that has hung over this conversation over the last 3.5 weeks. this is going to be
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a close race, regardless of who the democrats have at the top of the ticket. and so yes, joe biden had what was probably a fatal wound and i think he made the right and selfless decision to pull out but i don't think democrats should delude themselves that there's somebody that they can slot in at the top of the ticket given the way trump motivates his base, given the calcification of polarization in this country. so i think we should just stipulate that at the top. i do think she has done a really good job this last 24 hours of showing that she is reaching out, that she's trying to earn support, that she's not sort of sitting back and saying, well, it has to be me. and so therefore, it will be you know, and she's had some important some important support, including some of the state delegations which remember at the end of the day what she's trying to do here is locked down the delegates and she's had state delegations come, i think north carolina, i think maybe louisiana double-check that, but who've come out and said there with her so she's she's she's doing the work. >> all right. well, we're going to talk a lot more about kamala
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democratic nominee who might she chose as her running mate already speculation swirling over a list of names that include swing state governors popular senators, and administration officials. >> this is a little bit, this graphic has two big, well, we're shortening for you in a second. >> just this past week, harris offered her praise for two of the room and contenders pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, north carolina governor roy cooper i'll tell you it's good to be back here in pennsylvania with the governor who has been a great partner to the president and me and it is so good to be back with so many incredible leader hey my dear friend roy cooper you know, ryan i, sir? >> together when i was attorney general and california and he was attorney down on north carolina, i've known him for almost two decades and he is an extraordinary leader alright, panel is back elliot. >> there really are four names. it's my understanding on the list right now, mark kelly, the
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senator from arizona, andy beshear in kentucky roy cooper in north carolina, who you heard harris talking about there and josh shapiro of pennsylvania i didn't ask my team to produce it because i kind of thought better of it, but there it is. look at those faces. what do those words having you to widen faces no beautiful, boring, white faces. and i think heart of the exercises, look at those poll numbers shaina point on meuron, a squeeze it, but no, but there's something to that. and i think throughout history, vice presence have very rarely flipped a state for their candidate, other than i think lbj in 1960, it doesn't really happen what, what the vp does is sort of launder some aspect of the president or the you know, the nominees background it helps the democrats here and potentially vice president harris to have someone that, that a boring white guy on the ticket that can perhaps attract
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voters in pennsylvania, michigan, or whatever else that may be this is all the most bizarre election in our lives shaping up already. and it's hard to know if any of the conventional wisdom on any of this stuff will play out. but those are likely obvious faces that i think we end up. >> well, actually think there's anyone higher, high-low at this point. >> i think those are the choice the main candidates, kamala harris, has often been a risk averse politician, but there is definitely a line of thought within some parts of the democratic party that yes, you are completely right, usually the vp is a balance, but occasionally you double-down, right? like clinton gore, both southern, southern democrats, 22 just recently trump j.d. vance, you doubled down maybe you actually pick another woman, you pick gretchen whitmer. you basically say, okay, you're going to have hulk hogan and the chair of the ufc introduce you right before the your speech at the rnc. okay. we're going to go full like boys versus girls here but
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frankly for you both i do ask the question of is america ready to c2 women on a ticket? yes. >> i think it's a particularly when when the top kennedy is a black woman, i just it's a simple reality about the sad america we live in. and i just wonder if deep down when people go to pull that lever, if they're ready to do that, i heard somebody who used to work for donald trump also say that camila be kamala harris being a black woman is going to bring out the worst trump as well which would raise the specter of more ugliness there, right? elliot, thank you. always great to have you. >> alright. still ahead here on cnn this morning, a wave of elected democrats supporting kamala harris following joe biden's stunning decision to leave the race, we're going to talk to one of her supporters, congresswoman annie kuster from the maybe swing state of new hampshire plus later senator joe manchin joins us live will heat shoes two challenge kamala harris for president harris polls well against trump, i think she has a real shot at winning. it feels pretty hopeless. at the moment. >> it's exciting, however, i still don't know.
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i need the experience that's what that's what he's trying to say there was a lot in that clip, kamala harris quickly racking up support from any key democrats in the hours following joe biden's announcement, including dozens of governors, senators, and representatives from across the country. >> i do think she's the best candidate just prepared candidate at this particular juncture i think the american people will see that in that, in her. and they will compare her to the alternative just as joe biden often ask people to do with him and donald trump, she gets that opportunity vice president harris has been working the phones with groups on capitol hill, reportedly making more than 200 phone calls on sunday alone. >> one of those calls reportedly to congresswoman annie kuster of new hampshire. she leads the new democratic new democratic coalition, which represents members in swing districts across the country. she joins us now, congresswoman, so grateful to have you. can you tell us a
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little bit about that phone call? >> sure great to be with you. very exciting to hear from kamala harris. i was one of the first out of the gate to endorse her as soon as i heard the news and then i was making my own calls to the new democrats were 100 center left democrats that's pragmatic. people, people often call us the biden dems. we had the zoom last weekend with the president and then a number of our members have been coming out asking the president to step aside and are members were very, very excited about kamala harris. so when she called, i said we're all in for you we'll be there for you will campaign across the country. were very, very excited to have you at the top of our ticket congresswoman, you're from new hampshire, which is one of the states that when president biden was still in the race, many democrats were starting to worry, might be in play for donald trump in the fall. >> it's obviously up in blue
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and in most of the recent then elections, do you think kamala harris will win new hampshire now yes, i definitely do. >> and i think it's the energy that's been lacking on the ground. people are very excited getting young people back into this race, i think is critical i've been hearing from young people, my own son's and people across the country throughout my district at getting women energize kamala harris will be able to bring the dobbs decision. are reproductive freedom to the fore. not just that, but just the understanding of what's happening saying across our country donald trump takes total credit for overturning roe v wade, and people's lives are at stake. their pregnancies, birth control is at stake ivf, these are very important personal decisions
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kamala harris has been fantastic out on the trail motivating voters. and then of course, people of color that's not such a big issue in new hampshire. pick people care a lot barak obama did very, very well here. i expect she'll win handily here. >> congressman, one emerging criticism from republicans already and one that my source is telling me maybe something when they look at polling data that could be a challenge for vice president harris, assuming she becomes the nominee, if she becomes a nominee, and that's the idea that she may have had more knowledge than the american public about the state of president biden's health ahead of that debate, how do you respond to people who are going to criticize her and say she knew she was in on it the whole time. >> i mean, look, this is what's challenging for all of us and i'm just being very honest with you and with the viewers. this is what was difficult for us, particularly over the last three weeks since the debate. i spent time myself
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with president biden back in the spring. i had the opportunity to fly with him on air force one, and i could tell that he was aging. it's not i think he has acuity in his thought process. i'm not worried about that. it's not about his memory. i think it was the burden of campaigning and governing at the same time and so there was never any doubt nor is there a doubt now about his ability to continue as term finishes term but she was being very loyal to the ticket. i'm not concerned about that. criticism. i think that's going to be gone within the within the week in terms of moving on, the excitement of having her at the top of the ticket and just where we go from here, frankly, the republicans are going to throw a lot up. they have a flawed candidate, which would you rather have a prosecutor or a felon? and they're very, very
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nervous about how strong this blue wave is going to be. we've got fantastic battleground candidates now, members that are going to win their seats. we've got recruits that i've been out campaigning for and raising funds for all across the country. we're going to win the house they'll hold the senate. and that means the supreme court for tyre generation and we've got a great shot now at the white house. and i think we're going to get it done all right. >> congresswoman annie kuster for us this morning. congressman, so grateful for your time. thank you very much. >> great to be with you. >> thanks, guys. >> see you soon all right. >> everyone is rallying to action here to try to support kamalaharris, shall we say including the lincoln project, which is a group of moderate conservatives and former republican party members who oppose donald trump. they've unveiled this new ad thanking joe biden for his service, endorsing kamala harris for president. let's watch time
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and the burden of the office means it's time to step aside to put a warrior into the political arena, ready to take on donald trump? >> to face up to the un-american plan, trump and project 2025 will impose vice president kamala harris is ready, experienced and does a tough prosecutor, kamala harris, done with men like trump over time, rapists, continent, frauds, criminals she's used to guys like trump alright, panel is back. >> we're joined by isaac dovere of cnn. isaac this group of course is one that formed while trump was still president we also saw nikki haley groups supporting nikki haley vote representing nikki haley, voters come out and endorse kamala harris, is her profile, one that that that offers an opening to these kinds of voters, republicans who don't want donald trump to get elected, or is it, is there
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does she have more specific challenges that this is one of the questions that was looming over the last couple of weeks of whether joe biden for all that would be able to make a better case to those kinds of voters. >> then harris would be, if it comes down to the question of, do you want donald trump to be president yes or no? then those voters and those groups presumably will move toward harris, but she is not a person who has been seen as the moderate middle of the road white guy that joe biden was right sort of it's like is it policy or is it present it might be a little above jonah. >> what do you think about this? >> question? >> yeah, it all depends. i mean, some of it depends on forces outside of her control, but a lot of it depends on how she decides to run the previous conversation we had about whether or not she should double down with another female running mate i think that would be a bad idea solely in the sense that she should the identity politics will speak for itself. she should not lean
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into those kinds of arguments that i think that that turns off a lot of middle of the road voters and she has not been willing to lean into her prosecutorial record for very long time. there was there used to be the case that, you know, kamala is a cop. was this argument that she was actually tough law and order candidate after blm riots and all that kinds of she kind of walked away from all that. it'd be really interesting to see if she can reconstitute something that's, that's the plan. and actually as her team has been working on this actually for even before the debate. and i've got some new reporting this morning about this, that it is prosecutors fallon, that's the plan here. but what you hear from people is not just, let's go up against the guy who was accused of rape, had the settlement against him, versus the woman woman who locked up, right. this big banks versus the person who went after the big banks, but is about whether she can push back on the progressives who want to move her in that direction. >> and did successfully for campaign in 2019 right away
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from being the prosecutor. >> yeah, some of it i think is just about bolstering the case for her as strong i mean, part of what biden had struggled with in the contrast with trump as trump was presenting this notion of strength and biden because of age and what we saw unfold over the last month in particular, was being received by voters as weak. and so, you know what the lincoln project ad is doing it's almost less about the specifics of her records read more about just doing everything in their power everybody who wants to see her win and donald trump lose. to bolster her as straight as strong. >> when that's why this first week is so critical for her because she's consolidated a bunch of the party, but not all of the party. nancy pelosi, who came jeffries, chuck schumer, baraka obama, have not explicitly endorsed her and the fact is that i have some new reporting this morning that part of the reason that joe biden hesitated is he had himself and his senior aides had serious concerns whether or not she was more electable than he was and bass all the 2020
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primary, kate remembers 2020 primary kamala harris didn't make it they, have a caucus. there are some serious concerns about how she can do this campaign this first week is really critical to try and assuage those where's geoffrey palmer? he's the guy who won american samoa. he's the person out there with delegates and he deserves a shot all right. coming up next here. could senator joe manchin be preparing to jump into the race? i will ask him he is here next plus president biden becoming just the third sitting president in the last 75 years to decide not to seek reelection. to talk about what history is taught us about this moment i'm stepping down, i'm not running for president said what what mr. president. >> people say you're awake they will see where your
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turned independent now, weighing whether to re-register as a democrat and challenge harris for the party's nomination. manchin is a centrist, retiring from his senate seat this winter, he never endorsed biden and his considering his own presidential campaign. here's what he told me back in the fall when i asked him about the race i'm not going to be a spoiler. i've never been a spoiler. i've never run to be a smaller i whatever i run for, i intend to win. so my my game plan would be, how do you win the whole darn thing, whatever you're involved in right now, being 14 months out or 12 months out, 13 months out to the next election is that just ludicrous senator manchin joins me now for his first tv interview since biden announced he is dropping out of the race. >> that was a lifetime ago morning good morning. >> i'm well, thank you for doing this so, senator, are you running for president? >> let me just put it this way. calls and everything that's coming in is it's not quite sure unless they see a process where they really are things
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changed any at all and in coordination and it doesn't always basically produce i think the strongest if you will, the strongest team very well common could be that person. and i think going through some sort of a process would have been very enlightening to everybody. so i'm pursuing the process. i really believe strongly along with i think that's former president obama and speaker nancy pelosi both think there should be a process. they spoke out about that. >> and you're going to find out as number two, you have your own views, but you're basically part of that team. >> and what's her own views on some of these issues? and it's going to be whether the border, you knows, going to be a hot contentious situation. is anyone taking serious the debt that we have, the educational opportunities or lack of educational opportunities, or student basically performance, things of this sort. these all need to be talked about and we seem to be basically cope. people who are opposed to donald trump is thinking
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that's going to carry the day. it's not people want issues. >> you said i'm pursuing the process. are you going to i'm just continued to push this process there's people were pushing in that direction and it's something if they're pushing that direction, i've said that's pass the torch to a new generation there's an awful lot of people that you shown on the screen that now they're considering as vice president, nobody has been through a process knowing really where they stand. joe biden went through a process in 2020 against an awful lot of left parts of our party. and the party went with someone centrist that felt like it could win are we in that same category right now are we in a centrist category? are we are in a far-left category. think about this. kasie. i'm an independent now 51% of people participating in electoral process are registered independents. only 23% of registered democrats, only 25% are registered republicans. if
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either side can't capture that middle, which is where the center of this country, where the common sense and just, they just want to tap it down a little bit and not push onto me. even though you think that's part of the policy senior playing to the base, is that where the country is? i don't think wiser 51% like me. how do they win back democrats like me? >> do you think you could win the nomination at a democratic convention? >> it's almost impossible for anybody at this point in time once it's been anointed? first of all, i want to thank the president. president biden i've known for a long time, i've considered him a friend and i truly i said with heavy heart yesterday. but here's a person that can put every minute of his remaining term towards doing the job of president, trying to bring peace in the middle east, trying to maysoon secure our position with ukraine to defend itself and fight for the freedoms that we want them to have. and they want. and then make sure that we show with grace and dignity
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how you transfer power superpower of the world. he can do all of that and had the greatest legacy. i thank him for everything he's done. i haven't always agreed. he knows that, but we've worked through our differences i haven't worked with camila any at all, to be honest with you, so we'll see what happened. >> would you consider being kamala harris as vice president. >> au? >> no, i'm not it's a new generation you know, want to 76-year-old vice president, right now, do we want to 76-year-old president? >> well, if he feels like he's 50, maybe. >> do you feel like you're let me just say this. >> the process for the democrats try to win back that center. joe biden became president because the center believed that he was in the center. you always have been but if i believe it probably did, he's got a run against kamala harris. >> is that going to be you? >> well, i don't think that's i don't know. i just will say we'll just have to say this system, you would like to see some sort i have some debates have something there's plenty of time we act like there's no
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time at all european countries are uk, they have him within two or three months and do very well six weeks, basically, yeah. >> would you run as an independent well, bernie tried that, but he said he couldn't be an independence, so he had to be an independent democrat a socialist, independent democrat is what i respect were bernie came from and he's still an independent and if i was going to do that, you know, what i changed back to a democrat those are things have been talked about. >> this just came about so quickly. i haven't really processed that are going through it. i have been very humbled by people calling and asking, would you be considered would you consider would you talk about us as my main thing is that we have a voice. i want the middle to have a voice. i went the center of this country to be able to say we have a voice. we're not extreme left or extreme right. i don't read my life that way, right. why do i have to only have two choices of a party that basically technic dreams, you've mentioned bernie, have you explored the process, what it would take for you to be able
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to push that rain to any of that right now, know, are you willing to re-register as a democrat if you need to? >> i haven't i haven't given serious thought right now. i can tell you why i left and not becoming that we underground, you know, because of this, i was raised as a democrat, lifelong democrat. nothing but that. but i was always fiscally responsible and socially compassionate. always want to give people a hand up and i believe they had to earn everything and basically not being given out. i believe in john kennedy asked not what your country can do for you, what you can do for your country and not the premise now, how much more can my country do for me we've gotten off course and we need to get back on course and the country wants to get back on course. and i hope people have enough courage there is going to keep us on the wrong course i have no idea. you don't know that because there's no process to go through. it has basically full steam ahead is basically some adjustment. i think it would help camila to have a little bit of a process to where she could explain articulate and have a dialogue all right.
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>> senator joe manchin, always grateful to have always good to be with you, kasie, i've never done and it just seems to keep happening. it does indeed. all right, senator, thank you so much for coming in all right. >> as we've been discussing all morning, this is the first time in more than half a century that a sitting president is giving up a run for a second term? i do not believe that i should devote an hour or a day of my time to any personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office the last time we all saw this was 1968 when lyndon b. >> johnson stunned the nation, vowing to spend the remainder of his time in office focusing on ending the vietnam war instead of running for reelection, johnson's vice president hubert humphrey went onto win the nomination during a contested convention in chicago but ultimately lost that race too. richard nixon joining me now to offer her
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perspective, the pulitzer prize winning presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, she's also the author of an unfinished love personal history of the 1960s. doris, i am so grateful to have you just walk us through mean as we all experienced this stunning moment unfold yesterday, what it means to you in terms of the long ark of history and what you think we may see happen next. >> well, what it showed to me was what happened with lyndon johnson as well. the hardest decision a president has to make is whether to relinquish power or not. and particularly to run for a second term, they all want that second term to endorse the first arm that's what lincoln said. it was more important to him to win the second than the first to show that people had cared it's about what he had done for lyndon johnson and was even more dramatic because he knew he was making a speech to the nation on march 31 to say he was hoping to wind down the vietnam war after the tet offensive, it would prove that it had to be wind down. it couldn't be won the way it was a stalemate was all that was
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possible. so he had witnessed speech where he would talk about stopping the bombing, negotiating with the north vietnamese and then he attacked on an ending which would be the withdrawal that we just saw, an even the people closest to him are never sure he'd reached that withdrawal part because he had been known to do that before lady bird said all day she was watching the clock she watched the tension in his face. however kind of release as he went up to give that speech, my husband was up in new hampshire and he was watching it with teddy white, the great journalists. and teddy white said something was up even before he said it, because he could see the last time he had seen him five days before, there was such tension. his voice was so soft it could hardly be heard his eyes look terrible. he was weary. now he looked composed and i think maybe that happened with president biden as well. once you make that decision, so hard to relinquish it, but you think it's for the good of the country than the tension comes away and there's a composure to him. and then the accolades come as they did for lyndon johnson. it was putting sacrifice i'm going for his
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ambition for the greater good rather than himself doing the things that he had never done in 37 years, his disapproval rating was at 57%. all of a sudden it was 57% approval. i think that combination will happen for joe biden as well. and it'll be interesting to see how he looks the next time we see him having gone through that betrayal fail in the sense of anger and desire. and he come back so many times before and thought maybe he could come back again until it seemed like age and health or something that you can't just will to come back from they are not something that you can just will come back from. doris kearns goodwin. i'm so sorry that we're out of time. i'm so grateful for your reflections this morning. i want to thank our panel. i want to thank you for joining us. i want to leave you with this moment. i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere after this. cnn new central, we're start, but let's remember together 15 years ago we said that the key to restoring confidence in our traditions and our institution

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