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joined by phone it is so good to hear our president's voice, joe, i know you still on the call and we've been talking every day. >> you probably you guys heard it from doug's voice. we love joe and jill. we really do. they truly are like family and we everybody mutual after that in some remarks thanking staffers for their work so far and work yet to come, the vice president, a former prosecutor, made her opening statement in her case against donald trump. as many of you know, before i was elected as vice president, before i was elected as the united states senator i was the elected attorney general as i've mentioned, a california before that aos a courtroom prosecutor in those roles, i took on perpetrators of all kinds redditors who abused
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women fraudsters, who ripped off consumers cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type let's caps and day, there's all nearly every bump in turn in her road to the democratic presidential nomination. smooth doubt straightened and cleared of traffic. cnn has learned the top senate and house democrats, chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries are said to endorse her perhaps tomorrow that's according to multiple sources familiar with their decision and it follows house speaker emerita nancy pelosi's endorsement today, along with a string of other influential democratic lawmakers and the commitment of nearly 1,300 delegates and superdelegates just about half the number needed to secure the nomination. if superdelegates are allowed to vote significantly more than half they aren't on top of that. many who might have challenged
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the vice president for the nomination of taking themselves out of the running by endorsing harris, michigan governor gretchen whitmer also bowed out of consideration as a potential harris running mate and kentucky governor andy bashir sounded to some political observers as though he was auditioning for the job so the vice president is ready. she has my full endorsement. i'm going to do everything i can to support her well, whoever she chooses, if she's the nominee, new polling shows the democrats are reacting positively to her boss's decision about into her top of the ticket, harry enten joins us shortly with that, we'll also talk about the earliest stages of the republican case against her, including a racially loaded insinuation that's been pushed by right-wing broadcaster is in today from tennessee republican congressman tim burchett are you suggesting she's dc was a dei hire 100%. >> she was idea hire. >> joining us now vermont independent senator and former democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders. senator sanders, when you hear
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phrases like that, dei hire already being used, or are you here? you're an ohio state senator today, jd vance's rally warning. it would take us civil war to save the country of trump is not elected. what does it tell you about why, what lies ahead in the next few months in this campaign? >> well, it's going to be a brutal campaign i believe that kamala harris is going to be the next president of the united states and i think anderson, she has a chance to win the selection big if we can focus on the serious problems facing working families all over this country, politics is not a game, it's thought about polls or misstatements. what it's about is what we can do to address the fact that 60% of our people are living paycheck to paycheck, while the people on top have never, ever had it. so good 50% of our seniors are living on $30,000 a year or less i believe president biden believes that i think the vice
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president believes that we should expand social security, raise those benefits to make it easier for the elderly to get buy-in, pay the paid for the prescription drugs that they need. we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of almost any nation on earth. and what we've got to do is do what we did in the american rescue plan is make the child tax credit permanent that's $300 a month per kid. we cut childhood poverty by 40%. we got to bring that back because it's really tough. to raise the kid if the cost of childcare and everything else in this country got workers out there making ten bucks an hour, nobody yet by and 1011 bucks an hour got a raise. the minimum wage to a living wage if the vice president campaigns on an economic agenda among other things, she's going to win and win big. >> i have you talked to her since since president biden dropped out? and if so, what did you say to her? >> well, i did talk to her but, you know, those compensations,
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all private i figured out, but again, i think yeah vice president harris though, has now been endorsed by at least 41 democratic senators, 186 democratic representatives, 23 democratic governors. you've yet to endorse her. you'd previously supported president biden staying in the race will you what's going to what's going to take for you to endorse the vice president? >> well, i'm sure that ai well, that i wanted to just chat with her and i want to make sure look, this is a consequential campaign it is, you know when we talk about the future of the planet and climate change we have to make sure that we elect the vice president when we talk about economic rights, we got to make sure that we elect the vice president. i just want to make sure that her campaign understands that for too many people in this country, when they look at washington dc they feel ignored they feel insulted
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that people are not understanding what is going on in their lives life expectancy for working class people is ten years shorter than it is for the rich and working-class people want a government that represents them and not corporate america. and i just want to make sure that the vice president, as i'm sure, she will be, will stand up strongly with an agenda that speaks to the long neglected needs of working families. and if she does that, she's going to win and win big. >> would you have liked to have seen more of their there were some people who had talked about sort of some sort of short and primary process. would you have liked to have seen more people having a chance to kind of throw their hat in the ring, debate these issues talk about these issues, make their case. all the issues that you've just discussed to the american people well, this has been a really weird election process that goes without saying i have not been
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overjoyed to see the kind of attacks against the president, president biden, by the corporate media and bikes some of the wealthy donors, forcing him to leave the campaign and i think a lot of that was just not right. >> but he is out of the race right now kamala harris is going to be the candidate, and i will do everything i can to make sure that trump is defeated and that she is elected and just briefly, several names have obviously been floated as possible running mates. arizona senator mark kelly, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, north carolina governor roy cooper. dr. governor andy bashir. do you have somebody you would recommend? >> look at a time when we are moving toward an oligarchic society where a small number of billionaires exercise incredible power over our economic and political systems
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i want a ticket which is prepared to stand up and fight for working class people. that's what i want. and there are a number of people out there who are prepared to do that. but that's who i would like to be part of that ticket. >> senator sanders. thank you for your time thank you. before turning to the panel, i want to play another moment from this evening's harris event to add her newly minted campaign headquarters all of this is to say building up the middleclass will be a defining goal of my presidency because we hear know when our middle class is strong, america is strong and we know that's not the future donald trump is fighting for he and his he and his extreme project 2025 will weaken the middle-class and bring us
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backward joining me now cnn political commentators, david axelrod and kate bedingfield, she's, he is a former obama senior adviser. >> she served as president biden's white house communications director, also joining us. ashley etienne, former senior advisor to the 2020 biden-harris campaign. david, first of all, what do you make of what we heard from vice president harris today? >> look, i thought this was i remember her campaign from 2020 and it wasn't a good campaign. she wasn't she'd seemed uncertain her message was unclear this was a different person who we saw today and it shows what four years of experience has done. i mean, she knows what she's fighting for and she made it very clear. she wove her biography as a prosecutor and attorney general into the narrative and drawing a contrasts with donald trump on values and on vision and eye really, i think a lot of people were heartened by what for somebody who just got i mean
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injected into the biggest stage in the universe. and in this very strange as what senator sanders calls this very weird situation, she would seem remarkably at ease, at ease you know, there was a comfort and it's like enjoying it. them? yes. and that was something that we didn't see four years ago i think she's grown in this role and she's been on the trail now for a year and i think that shows as well. i'm sure this wasn't new all new material, but it was really, really strong kickoff and reintroduction to the american people in this new role with nancy pelosi's endorsement today, the expected endorsement of all the other democratic congressional leadership soon in any potential rivals declining to enter the race. >> i mean, is this now a done deal? >> i mean, it feels like we're very close to that. and i think not only are you seeing elected officials, governors, significant names in the
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democratic party. i mean, senator sanders was just saying, i'm going to do everything i can to get her elected not only are you seeing that support, but i think you're seeing it from voters. i mean, they campaign announced $80 million in the first 20 four hours, including a lot of new donations. people on the ground who are clearly excited about her candidacy, who feel energized. so i think it's, you know, it's not just the support from the top of the party that we're seeing, but i think the harris campaign is making a good case that they're seeing that support from voters. so i think look, i wouldn't say done in deal because as you have just discussed, this has been an incredibly weird campaign, but i think we are very, very close and i think there's an enormous amount of energy for her democrats who are excited to put the last month of infighting behind them and move forward focusing on donald trump in the way that that vice president harris was doing very effectively this afternoon? >> actually, we just heard a republican member of congress state claiming the vice president harris was that it was a dei hire something. a lot of cable news talkers have been
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saying of late is this just the beginning of of what to expect in the next couple of months absolutely. >> it's only the beginning and unfortunately, it's only the beginning, but the good thing is that commonly harris has been the first set every job in position she's ever had from the ag to the senate. so she's very accustomed to this incoming these attacks. i worked with her as her communications director the first year was crazy on slot from conservative media republicans and fox news, and she became very fortified in that herself and who she is. and it created this armor and so now you can look at the vice president now and to dave david axelrod's point, you can see where this is, all that stuff is starting to roll off of her in a way that it's sort of stuck in the first first year or so. so you can tell she's just become accustomed to this, but i will make this point. i do believe where the
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republicans are going to make their biggest mistake is they're going to attack her on to on two fronts. one is hurt being a woman and her being a woman of color and both of those are actually some of her biggest advantages going into this election. i don't know any other election that is more right for a woman to win especially with the gop's assault on women secondly, her candidacy is clearly energize young people, people of color, black folks are just energized about her. i was on a call last night, 50,000 women were on the call in a matter of hours with $7 million raised. so, you know, the republicans are going to continue to go down this path to their peril. it's going to turn off that one to 2%. that's going to make the decision in this election david, i just want to play a little bit more from vice president harris today. this campaign is not just about us versus donald trump there is more to this campaign, and that
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our campaign has always been to different versions of what we see as the future of our country. two different visions for the future of our country one focused on the future the other focused on the past you know, one of the things obviously this election boils down to a certain number of key states and getting enough joe biden had a very close election in wisconsin and michigan elsewhere how does she do you think in those states? well, this is a question. i mean, what we saw today was that she's ready to go. she's ready to perform and take the case to trump but this is in some ways have van jones was saying the other night? a math problem you need to get 200 270 electoral votes. you need to do it state-by-state as it was. the
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biden campaign had a very, very small window to get to 270 and it ran through pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. and one district in nebraska because it alex by districts and that is that is sort of where she is right now and it's not clear yet how she will play in those states. i think the choice of a running mate will be important and it's not clear that she can open up other fronts that are sufficient so you know today is a day in which democrats are excited, but everybody has to buckle down there because this is not going to be an easy battle. >> everyone stay with us after the break. we're going to talk about new polling on what has changed for democrats since yesterday. harry enten joins us for that also bestselling author and columnist, tom friedman to take on the president's issues and bow out and the prospects of a harris campaign welcome to the now way to network.
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establishment that was trying to get joe biden out of the race. >> but the fact is democratic voters love this move. we have fresh polling. it's amazing how fast we can conduct as polling from cbs news yougov, that shows two things. number one, democratic voters, the vast majority of them are approve of the idea that joe biden has gotten out of the race. you see it right there. any 3% and more than that, nearly the same percentage, agree with the idea that kamala harris should in fact be the democratic nominee? he is well on our way right now. she is adding up those delegates across the different states will see if she gets it by the end of the week and senator sanders was just on in him is sort of pointing the finger at what he said his corporate media and big money donors kind of making biden dropped out the polls show people wanted them. >> the polls show that people want a democratic voters approved that this look, you can say everything you want from the top trying to tell the bottom what to do. but the fact is, if the voters, we're in a board that democratic establishment wouldn't have come aboard on getting, what about harris, his fundraising? yes. so you're talking about fundraising, right. and joe
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biden's campaign had a big problem from racing towards the end of its campaign you know how much money kamala harris raised in her first day of fundraising. get this she raised at $81 million. that is the largest amount ever raised in a single day compare that to donald trump's campaign where it was all that stocks post-conviction, he raised all that money, but he raised $53 million in a day afterwards, 81 million crushed it. the kamala harris campaign will have no problem. mr. cooper raising the money necessary to compete against donald trump, harry enten, stay there. i want to bring back the panel, ashley, what do you make of the level of democratic enthusiasm and fundraising, right now for vice president harris. and i mean, is that sustainable? >> well, it's clear that folks wanted an alternative and now they've gotten that and kamala harris and people are on fire for her and it's not just the fundraising numbers, but the campaign announced today that they signed up 30,000 new volunteers. i mean, 30,000 new volunteers in one day. so to me it just suggests that there's a level of excitement, enthusiasm for the vice president that's off the charts. i don't i'm not surprised by it at all. i think
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folks think that she's ready. she's gonna be ready day one. she's a partner to the president and his, his accomplishments, and she laid out in incredible powerful vision today for america freedom, opportunity in the promise of america. and i think that's what the american people want to hear and it's resonating with them kate, i mean, as someone who's deputy campaign manager for the 2020 biden campaign what do you think the top priorities for democrats need to be right now? >> how do you translate this enthusiasm into enough votes in the key swing states? >> yeah, well, the volunteer numbers are encouraging. i mean, the number one thing that the campaign needs to do from an operational standpoint from now through november, even through early september, when early voting starts is to get their volunteer shifts and to get people knocking doors, to get people on the phone to make sure that that community outreach is happening. obviously, the paid media it will happen, the earned media will happen. the narrative is important, no doubt about it, but to take this energy in this moment and this excitement that people are feeling, that the campaigns challenge is to translate that into people out
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in their communities, getting people to the polls mean one of the challenges that we saw on the democratic side and frankly, i think they see it on the republican side. auto, but that we've seen across the course of this campaign before president biden step down is an overall lack of enthusiasm from voters. a sense that, you know, that up until this, up until yesterday, this was going to be a rematch of two candidates. they weren't excited about who didn't have positive favorables that had a lot of negatives there, was just a lot of apathy from voters about, about this choice in front of them. and so this in, this infusion of energy from voters that the harris campaigns challenges to take that turn it into people out in their communities, getting people to the polls david, i mean, how different is this campaign now for the trump campaign from the trump campaign's perspective and how the trump au listen, i think this was not scenario they wanted. i mean, i think that they you know ashley said
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she that she can she can take credit for part of the biden accomplishments they're going to try and give her credit for the elements of biden's program that people. are unhappy about and this is not going to be her her numbers are not great either. so one of the questions is do you does she pick up now? does this enthusiasm translate, especially with independent voters? i mean, clearly she's jazzing the democratic base. does she, does that translate? the independent voters in terms of trump? he was his whole campaign was crafted around joe biden. and now he has a whole new canada and you saw her today. i mean, she she is vibrant in a way that the president obviously wasn't and she can talk about the future in a different way than the president did in a compelling way. and all of a sudden donald trump is the 78-year-old guy who sounds a little bit more like yesterday.
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>> he's the guy who's now rambling in long rally. >> the contrast is going to be stark between what you saw today and what you see in donald trump thanks so much more on the historic nature of vice president harris's candidacy and the uncertain bumpy road it took to get there with new york times in this tom friedman. >> that's next weekend from when you're working with a small footprint and bobs turns your dining space into a super productive workspace and she can sleep parties faced that's as livable as it stylish, but there's only one thing to say my discount furniture if you're living with hiv, imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills good to go unscripted good to go on a whim with kevin uva. >> there's no pausing for daily hiv pills for it saltz undetectable. kevin uva is the only complete long-acting hiv treatment you can get every
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historic moment. >> the proverbial torch has been passed never so late in the presidential season, never after such political drama never someone who could potentially be the first black woman in asian-american as president. i'm joined now by pulitzer prize-winning new york times columnist tom friedman, who is also the author of a number we're a bestsellers, including from beirut to jerusalem. so tom, do you think vice president harris did or what do you make a pro-first talk today? >> yeah. i was impressed actually, andersen i've actually never spoken to the vice president since she's been in office. so governing biden, i just never attended any of her speeches either. i was really impressed that at how well she spoke. there seemed to be a lot of growth there and most importantly, i am impressed by the incredible energy she unlocked from the base of the party, which was clearly starved. all these months for a leader to express their passion and to take on
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donald trump. you've just seen this explosion of energy and money and that i think is a really good sign as well. i think the real question is, as someone who maybe would define his own politics is somewhere between a conservative democrat and an independent a pro-business democrat as it were. i'm interested in how she's going to be able to appeal to that segment of the population because that's really, i think where the future of this election is going to reside and places like pennsylvania and michigan with those independents and more conservative voters. but she's done what she needed to do to get off to a good start. and i think that's really unlock the energy of the party and give people that voice they were looking forward to take on donald trump there was a lot of discussion over the last several strange weeks about some sort of an open primary. perhaps we're for people competing, doing town halls do you think it's wise that that didn't happen? >> that basically everybody
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coalesced around kamala harris i wish it had happened. i think, you know, still sharpen still. i would love to have heard different voices. i think it could you know, maybe given the party the kind of maybe different, diverse direction needed going forward. again, particularly appeal to those independent voters. but it clearly wasn't going to happen and if i'm impressed by one thing, you're one of the criticisms of vice president harris early on was that she wasn't particularly organized wow, i tell you you're joe biden resigned sunday afternoon and by every indication, she had no more than anybody else and she got a whip operation going in 24 hours that boy, if she was running a war, i'd be pretty impressed early in the program and mentioned comment and ohio republican state senator told the crowd at a republican vice president nominee jd vance's for a solo rally is trump's running mate and i just want to play this
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for our viewers i believe wholeheartedly, donald trump in butler counties, jd vance are the last chance to save our country politically. >> i'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil war to save the country will be saying you also now already have, you your vote. >> tennessee congressman today is saying that vice president harris is dei candidate essentially, dei diversity, equity and inclusion how nasty do you think this is going to get all these get your real nasty anderson and it's going to get real nasty from the top down i was really struck by when president biden announced he wasn't running again. >> i'm wondering i wonder what trump and j.d. vance will say the remarks were so repulsive so ungenerous to a man who
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served his country as vice president for two terms and present couldn't just say, you know what? we've had our big differences with president biden, but he's a decent man, a good family man. he did his best for the country move on. no, it had to be you never should have been president. you're the worst human being in the world to that effect. what is wrong with you people really, i mean, no sense of charity at all. and i hope americans were paying attention to that. >> do you think i mean, obviously this is going to boil down to a handful of battleground states and it was very close that the last time around real pays attention to the popular vote. but obviously the votes in those states are the ones that matter and make up the electoral college. so i mean, can vice president harris when in pennsylvania in michigan, in some of these days i hope so. >> obviously, i think she can i
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think a lot will depend on who she chooses as vice president. i think it's a real good choices out there. people like mark, kelly and jim cooper, and in particular but it's going to take a both and presidency or both and you know, i'm for a high wall on the border with a big game. high well, with the big gate. okay. i'm for growing the pie and read dividing the pie. i wanted to agenda of abundance. and if we do an either or thing, if democrats do that, i don't think they're going to get anywhere i think where we re anderson we're on the eve of an ai revolution. >> what, what do we need most in this country? >> we need immigrants of energy at, but also immigrants of great talent look at these ai companies almost everybody there's a foreign born a scientist and if you listen to donald trump and you listen to j.d. vance today what is their message to the world? get the hell off my lawn yeah, that's actually not asking pertains to check their message. >> yeah. furniture for the age
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of ai. so i think there's a lot of ways to take them on, but i also think has been missing from democrats. and you're seeing this explosion of energy for kamala harris because of it isn't biden just because he was old, he couldn't actually rebut trump in real time. listening type debate in atlanta, when trump was saying the economy has been a disaster for four years, which is dying for trump to say, you know, for biden to say to trump, you know, mr. trump? lost in $88,000,000 judgment e. jean carroll had you taken that $88 million and put it in an s&p index fund an hour after i was sworn in, you'll be up 40% today. >> tom friedman. thanks very much. good to talk to you coming up now that she appears to have the inside track to the democratic nomination for president, can she re-energize democratic voters in swing states a look at the battleground state of georgia next i agree with latch, the
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president harris laid out her vision for the next three plus months of campaigning. >> unite the party and win the election a day after trump's allies debuted their first attack video against her in key battleground states including the swing state of georgia, polls this month and last month had president biden trailing the former president, thereby four and five points, almost four years after biden earned a narrow win, there. ryan young has more on whether harris can re-energize a key group of swing state voters i think she's definitely has the ability to be a great leader of this country, being 100 and 70s or less away from the election is kind of scary. but i do think a shakeup immediate to happen in the critical battleground state of georgia, where black voters are a key voting bloc for democrats. we spoke to many who express enthusiasm for vice president kamala harris and our prospects for the white house. >> i'm excited and i think that she will continue to build momentum. >> i didn't think it was real okay pastor jamal bryant leaves new birth missionary baptist
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church, one of inland is largest and just recently met with the vice president. >> history was made within six hours she was able to raise 63 million dollars. >> georgia was crucial to biden's win in 2020 when he became the first democrat to win the state since 1992 defeating donald trump by fewer than 12,000 votes, black voters made up nearly 30% of the electorate and backed biden by more than 70 points. >> the most consistent holding bloc for the democratic party has been black women. those numbers are not lost on either campaign. >> trump's allies quickly launch ads attacking vice president kamala harris in the wake of biden's exit from the race, they know camila some voters here tell us they have a renewed energy about their presidential race. >> i was energized by, this is the political discourse that one, to see our community half and then also just reinvigorate
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the fire within my son so i think she's going to have overwhelming support in atlanta and, you know but i think she should have overwhelming support in general with women especially when she announced her bid for presidency and oakland years ago. and so it's come full circle at his ear. blanche, again, as really exciting others expressing caution and concern overall general opinion is yes, but it is going to take some effort and a lot of hard work. >> i think most people don't know perhaps what she's done for the country so far. >> but harris supporters say they are optimistic about the road ahead. >> last night we did a zoom call to black women, 47,000 black women on one call, i and some telling you is really a movement that is taken complex 100 days to go. it's going to be something that america has never seen before yeah, anderson, even right now, and watching a zoom call with black men last night black women,
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over 20,000 black men are involved in the zoom call. >> they've already raised over $100,000. so you can see that energy sort of streaming online that we have to make something clear, especially for the young african americans that we talked to here lana they wanted to make it clear to the vice president. they wanted a renewed conversation with them about how they would move the party forward in the future because that's something they want to talk about and over again, over and over again, we heard about reparations. that's something that black men kept bringing up. so it'd be interesting to see how they bridge this divide, especially along age lines. >> anderson, thanks very much. i'm joined now by cnn political commentator bakari sellers is back in the vice president and it is co-hosting that phone call the ryan just mentioned. so talk a little bit about the call tonight. are you confident and vice president harris's ability to do build enthusiasm, restore enthusiasm among black voters, young voters and others. and in georgia honestly anderson, i think the numbers speak for themselves to be completely honest with you. tonight, we have over 20,000 black man. we
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tried to we have to raise the limit from 1000020000. we've already raised over $50,000 in this call literally started with four people he started with myself it started with the organization that blackman vote. it started with quentin james and it started with roland martin. we were able to come together as a group for today. that number expanded to the cbc. it expanded to entertainers, actors, it expanded the businessman and what we're all saying, a few things the first thing is where not only do we support kamala harris, but we're going to push back on these attacks that are the underbelly of the united states of america one, where people are here calling our auhow there saying that she made it through some other means other than your intellect and acumen? they're saying she's not qualified for the job. they're calling her anything but being from this country, there are burglarizing her. >> and what we're saying is black men as the head of our communities are going to stand arm-in-arm, lag women. >> and we're going to be a formidable voting bloc. is that going to be enough to win the
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presidency of the united states? no. >> but does that give very strong base from which to go out and bring other voters in. the answers because i think the yes obviously the trump campaign spent time ensuring there their convention trying to reach out to black man two black women. they had a lot of that, a number of ministers speaking others, members of congress in your view, what should vice president harris and the party do to try to solidify support? >> i mean, the first thing is you have to look at black man holistically anderson, we've had enough of these conversations that really black man, they only get talked to about things like criminal justice reform there was only a conversation with black man when they're trying to figure out how we either stay out of jail or keep our friends at a jail. >> but what we're talking about on the call this economic mobility. >> we're talking about how to educate our kids, how to make sure we have health care. >> and commonly, harrison and our brother-in-law, tony and jen o'malley and julie
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rodriguez, not only do they have two black men in a forward-facing position on the campaign. >> but they also have to listen to black man and talk about these issues. >> as you've mentioned, republican congressman burchett today from tennessee, referred to vice president harris is a dei hire suggesting prison biden chose her as vp simply because of her race and gender obviously, that is just the beginning of what to expect yeah. i mean, he should have just called. >> i mean, to be honest with you, that's what he wanted to do. >> but the thing about collins that she's seen all of those things she heard all of those epithets. >> but she's fought through all of those things. we can see the history of who kamala harris is, right? because it was going to be able to go to these places, to these excerpts to be suburbs, to be able to talk to rural workers, to farmers. you saw the labor unions come around her and support one of the things people didn't know that would happen kamala harris was the energy happening this fast whenever you able to put 40,000 people on one call or
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20,000 people on another call. that means the energy is real, but we still have questions to answer. >> anderson i'll be brief with this story, but i was going to call 2008 or 2007, excuse me, with michelle obama is detailed a brand and the leadership from the south carolina campaign to elect barack obama. >> i was co-chair of that call and i go to michelle obama and steve hildebrand at that time, the two fears the people in my community had, the one was white voters weren't going to vote the bronco number two was that they were going to kill him. >> there was a real fear from amongst black voters that there was going to be some level of martyrdom with barack obama he had to go out and assuage those fears even in the black community and so what commonly harris has to do is be able to assuage those fears and say, look, we can, when we can actually win this race in the way she does, that is by broadening her coalition and going out and bringing other voters into the mix. >> a car sellers. thanks very much coming up the secret service director testimony about the security lapses that
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dizziness and spinning. take back control with lipo flavonoid rahel solomon in new york is cnn there's a lot of anger at a hearing on capitol hill today and was bipartisan. >> the house oversight committee trying to get answers from secret service director kimberly cheatle over the attempt on former president trump's life at a rally in pennsylvania, which killed one person, wounded two others on july 13 we failed i take full responsibility for any security lapse. i will move heaven and earth to ensure that an incident like july 13 does not happen. again, the job description your task was to make sure it never happens period. why didn't they put a security hold on president trump going on stage at that rally at a number of our protective sites. they're suspicious individuals that are
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identified all the time isn't necessarily mean that they constitute a threat. your full of today, you're just being completely dishonest. >> it is my firm belief director cheatle, that you should resign. >> the director has lost the confidence of congress at a very urgent and tender moment in the history of the country. and we need to very quickly move beyond this that's. >> the top republican and democrat on the committee, each calling for the directors resignation, cheatle told lawmakers she thinks she's quote, the best person to lead the secret service at this time. driven now is former homeland security secretary jay johnson does it make sense to you? how this happened? i mean, this stage? >> no, it does not let me begin with this. the secret service, given its mission, has to go out and pitch a no-hitter every game. and if anybody gets on base, the results were catastrophic. another way of saying it is one failure as the equivalent of 10,000 successes.
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in my experience, the secret service performed admirably. i was there cabinet level oversight. i was a protectee of that agency for three years i personally made the decision that donald trump should have secret service protection when he was a candidate in 2050 or the one who made that go and he needed it at the time given the threat streams directed at him at the time having said all that, i have no good explanation for why they did not. >> the secret service, not local law enforcement. >> the secret service did not take care to secure any direct line of fire at an open-air event at their protectee. we learned this of course, november 22, 1963 people saw lee harvey oswald in the open window of the texas book depository with the rifle moments before he shot kennedy so it's the secret service's job to, of course secure the
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immediate perimeter of the event with magnetometers. but you also have to secure rooftops. terrorists is windows that have a direct line of sight, certainly within the range of 148 yards at the protectee. why that did not happen? i do not know why, given the timeline there weren't law enforcement screaming in the ear of the earpiece, just like the cops of the immediate detail or right, because then trump seen gun gone, don't let him get out of the gift. >> she testified today that the agency was told of a suspicious individual in her words, somewhere between two and five times. source told cnn 19 minutes before the shooting, law enforcement was trying to locate the shooter. the fact they allowed him to go on the stage and get out of the armored vehicle is i did not hear a good explanation for that today. normally the secret service would end should err on the side of being overly
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cautious with the protect d. and requiring him to stay in the armored vehicle, if not, leave the site entirely, if there's some sort of unexplained potential threat, it is extraordinary that a i think 20-year-old person could there not any military experience could could fine line of sight could, could do all of this. do you think she should resign? >> i don't know her. i don't know her relationship with the secretary of the president so i don't have a judgment on that. i will say this sometimes the person who was in the chair when the mistake occurred is the best person to fix the problem sometimes the loss of credibility is so bad. you need to have a fresh start with a new leader. i don't know quite where on the scale this situation fits ten about ten years ago the director of the
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secret service then resigned it was suggested or that she resigned because of a series of mishaps that it occurred with the agency this could be the same or it could be something very different. i'm not there. i'm not in a position to know it's rare to see. i mean bipartisanship on capitol hill these days to see what democrats and republicans saying she's should resign, democrats and republicans on the house oversight committee are both screaming for your resignation. that's a problem it's also extraordinary i mean, how would, would she wait till the investigation is done before stepping down? i think that if she stays on for the next 48, 72 hours she's probably there for the time being. that's my instinct. it's only an instinctive if she survives the next 48,