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children. >> i can see the look on their faces and it broke my heart because my kids are looking at their eyes are watery. they don't know what's happening to their dad. he's got a handcuffs on. nobody explained to them what was going on. and i was powerless. i couldn't do anything about it and davis did say that there was a man sitting by the window in the row in front of him that did corroborate what he said happened so that he didn't hit him. >> he said, of course not. >> but what the davis family really wants here, erin is we're there to be accountability and for there to be some process to make take the safer for flyers because after all, not everyone, as he says, has the same platform as well. >> davis and maybe it doesn't have to super bowl rings to his name and in which case can make the case and get the resources to make something happened here. so it doesn't happen again. to anybody else, erin. >> all right. stephanie, thank you very much. and thanks so much as always to all of you for being with us as well. see you back here tomorrow ac360 starts now tonight on 360,
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kamala harris all but locks up the democratic nomination and hits the road. what her first campaign day looked like, what new polling shows, and how the former president has started reshaping his campaign with his new opponent in mind. also tonight, another republican lawmaker using racially loaded language to describe the vice president, senator cory booker, joins us to talk about that and later as the secret service director resigns new details emerge about just how much time the former president would be assassin had after being spotted by local police officer to start firing. good evening. thanks for joining us. it took barely more than a day for the democratic party to make kamala harris their presumptive nominee for president. in fact, by the time the top house and senate democrats endorsed her enough, biden delegates had pledged their support to put her over the top a process the party insiders and pundits expected might take till tomorrow or perhaps it's all week is now done, leaving vice president harris free to build on that momentum if she can, in her first day on the campaign
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trail in the swing state of wisconsin, speaking milwaukee, she touched on many of the themes she previewed last night at campaign headquarters in delaware including her line about having seen donald trump's type before back when she was a prosecutor and again today she went at trump head-on and his extreme project, 2025. >> agenda will weaken the middle-class we know we got to take the series. thank you. believe they put that thing in writing when you read it, you will see donald trump intends to cut social security and medicare he intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations and make work looking families foot the bill america has tried these failed economic policies before but we are not going back our not up to that new polling done in the
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last two days shows her with a two percentage point lead among registered voters nationwide. >> that is within the polls margin of error, meaning there's no clear leader. a top trump campaign pollster today said he expects shall soon be gaining ground or even out ahead due to what he calls the harris honeymoon. as for his boss, the former for president, he phoned into a reporters conference call today and launched several attacks, including this factually challenged one as a result of her dangerously extreme immigration policies, the largest invasion in history is now taking place at our southern border. >> and it's getting worse, not better well keeping them honest, it is getting better, not worse according to customs and border protection, the number of people entering the country illegally has fallen by 25% since the white house announced asylum restrictions early last month also like them or not, they are president biden's border policies, not actually kamala harris's. >> she's not the administration's borders are as the former president also claimed on and call today in 2021, she was charged with
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leading diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from central america to the u.s additionally, as we and others reported at the time by partisan border legislation negotiated with one of the senate's most conservative members failed earlier this year at the former president's behest because he wanted to deny president biden any election-year victory, particularly on immigration. the former president also talked about his vice president pick on tuesdays call saying he'd still have chosen senator j.d. vance, had he known he'd be running against vice president harris, quoting him now, i do the same pick. he's doing really well. he's really caught on. how do you speaking of senator vance, this clip of him surfaced recently is getting a lot of attention today. it's from an interview he did with tucker carlson back in 2021 we are effectively run in this country via the democrats, via our corporate oligarchs by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives. >> and the choices that they've made. and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too. and it's just a
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basic fact you look kamala harris, pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children for the record, pete buttigieg and his husband chest and now have two children. >> additionally, if vice president harris has two stepchildren, donald trump has had five children with three wives. george washington had no children, but did help martha washington two from a previous marriage. as for president biden, he had four children, sadly, very to he'll speak tomorrow night at 8:00 from the white house about his decision to bow out of the race. cnn's eva mckend was at today's first harris rally joins us now from milwaukee is what more did the vice president have to say? >> anderson. she told voters that the path to the white house goes through wisconsin really indicating that she is going to prioritize this the state she also took time to thank president joe biden for what she characterized as his legacy of accomplishment but she really wants to frame this contest in very specific terms, her as the former prosecutor,
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going up against former president donald trump, a convicted felon, she argued is that trump represents past and she represents the future. let's listen we want to live in a country of freedom, compassion, and rule of law a country of chaos, fear and hate and in this campaign, i promise you, i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week but her pitch to voters wasn't only about trump. >> she also talked about how a defining goal of hers for a harris presidency would really be focusing on building up the middleclass. anderson anymore, focus on who the main contenders? here's are for the vp slot well, we're learning
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from our colleague jeff zeleny that governor roy cooper of north carolina and governor shapiro of pennsylvania and arizona senator mark kelly that they were all asked to submit personal information to the democratic lawyers involved in this vetting process? >> process for harris's future running mate. but we know that harris is considering a list of ten total names, but at least those three have been the asked to submit this vital information that they of course, will come through before she ultimately makes her decision again, thanks so much perspective now from democratic strategist james which carville also former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin, and robby mook, who served as campaign manager for hillary clinton. >> james yoo warned against democrats anointing vice president harris as the nominee you talked about wanting to see town halls all over the country with multiple candidates. that's clearly not going to happen. are you okay with what's happening hundred percent and people have
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coalesced around a vice president and i sure with her at up to 100%. >> two weeks ago might have been a different environment. is power wilson said in politics or week is a year so that was two years it's ago. but i am totally comfortable or delegates already coalesce around her donors that there i think she's doing very well and i'm glad to be 100% binder. >> alyssa, how do you think j.d. vance is doing? do you think prison trump is rethinking that? >> i didn't particularly when because the sheer volume of his old statements against donald trump are quite large, there's a bit of a twofold problem. >> there's these past statements that are very recent using critical language of trump, that even the fiercest never trumpers have used against him. there's also, as you played earlier him saying things that if you play in a suburban swing district to female voters is just radioactive in a general election, but he's also not really catching steam on the
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campaign trail as first event, i mean statements he made fell flat. there was kind of tepid applause throughout, and i think you're seeing oftentimes when people go from people like to his mountain, i didn't even get it to be honest. >> i was like i'm clearly not based enough, but you see if you take some from mega junior senator is putting them on the national stage. they often fall flat and now you have a much more competitive race than even just a week ago. in j.d. vance does not add votes, is just doubling down on maga rubbing it in a new york times op-ed published an ai, hillary clinton rights. i know a thing you're too about how hard it can be for a strong women candidates to fight through the sexism and double standards american politics, i've been called a witch, a nasty woman and much worse, i was even burned in effigy. what lessons from 2016 do you think harris should apply? to this campaign yeah. >> look, i think female candidates do face certain barriers and among those is i think they're judged more harshly for appearing to ambitious are striving too much
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and i think they played this incredibly well. >> you saw she came out right out the gate, said, i want to earn this nomination and they proved they had the delegates to get the nomination, at which point then she pivoted to being the presumptive nominee and i think we're going to hear all kinds of sexist tropes. you just heard that the end of the cat lady comments coming from j.d. vance. and so those will come but i think the most important hurt hello. from her coming out the gate was just show that this wasn't just trying to grab this. she earned it. it's hers. it's stunning how quickly she assembled the political coalition to get this nomination. and i think democrats are very united going into this. >> james, who do you think? you should pick his running but i don't mean i'm to sound so political and it's trying a ton of people and i have, i have every confidence that
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she's going to make a wise choice to make deaf seven people i could think of way, you couldn't go wrong what do any of them so i think they have little suspense in this and the they dominate and that dominate in the press. >> now and trump qatar know said that he's been dominated but i think robbie are live a smart number around long enough to know that scroll turn and she'll have some rough days ahead, but for right now. and what a ride in russia just in terms of what issues she may be most vulnerable on. i mean, obviously immigration is something that's already that she's being going to be attacked act four, there's also this, this dei hire a line that's been used a lot by right-wing talkers on radio and television. a couple of congressman are now using it as well. >> well, it's obviously
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absurd. i mean, she she is just as accomplished is any vice president. and again, i can't emphasize enough and i think james mentioned this earlier. we weren't sure how this was going to go going into this. we weren't sure how quickly the party would coalesce. there were certainly people demanding that there be a process and she locked this up instantly and that wasn't that wasn't by twisting arms i mean, the outpouring that we're seeing on social media has been incredible. and one of the things i worried about was the online space be a safe space for kamala harris? the safe space for people to express their support for her. and it overwhelm phil mattingly has so i'm confident she can push through these barriers that will be there. it is harder for candidates of color, it is harder for women candidates, but i'm really impressed with what i'm seeing right now. did this for campaign manager, this is a perfect 48 hours alyssa, where do you think she is most vulnerable? >> the attack points are pretty clear, right now. there's obviously going to be more
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developed. >> i think the trump campaign is going to frame her as too left for a general election. they're going to hit her on border security and say that the biden administration drag their feet for some time. they're going to pull up the fact that during 2020, she said that rioters should be bailed out in the summer of protests and try to frame her as somebody who's maybe soft on protecting law enforcement, but she's ready for these attacks. this the reason she she's probably the best candidate democrats could put up, as we know exactly what the playbook is and i've said this before and i'll say it again. trump is going to overplay his hand. he is going to lean too hard into sexist misogynistic and racist attacks. and it's going to turn off the very voters you need to win this election. swing voters do not want to hear the name name-calling. they do not want to hear that an attorney general, senator, and vice president as a dei hire didn't earn her way to being on the ticket there's this reuters ipsos poll shows no clear leader in the trump-harris matchup. >> there's this campaign pollster for trump predicting that harris is going to, there's the honeymoon for him harris, do you think that indicates i mean, do you think
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he's just trying to get ahead of setting there's some expectation setting here, but i do think there's a bump here of just people wanted someone other than the two candidates that were on the ticket and somebody who is taking the case to donald trump and she is very effectively in the last 72 do hours laid out the case. she's got the leyen, she's the prosecutor going against the perpetrator, like the tagline is there, the social media and digital operation has been great. this has been faster rapid response than we've seen from the biden campaign this entire election, even though it's a lot of the same team. so i do think she's gonna get a bump. it's going to be sustaining it for the next three months. we'll, the world has dumped on her and that's where i think a vp who could sustain her and other democratic surrogates are going to be a priority. >> robbie, when do you think of vp needs to get selected or now and so would you wait till the actual convention? >> yeah normally, you do wait until the weekend before i could see it happening earlier. >> hear the question is the vetting, right? there's just a practical issue of getting throughout betting. >> and when i went through this
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process with hillary, the number one thing when you're picking a vice president, is it someone you think is qualified? >> is it someone you want serving with you? it'd be a partner with you in being president. and that takes a little time to establish. so i think they'd be foolish to rush it. but if they have someone ready to get out the door, i do it. i'd keep the momentum going, keep owning the news cycle. as jen said earlier, these have been some really good days. there's going to be really hard days, but that's a special moment. and if you could have that between now and the convention, that would be great. >> ravid, let me just ask you, just in terms of vetting i mean, i'm not going to ask for any details, but like do you find stuff on potential people that didn't i mean, if most if they've won, if they're a governor or they're a member or senator, haven't they already been vetted? >> well, and she's looking at people like that who definitely happened vetted and certainly from a talent standpoint and a record stand-point, have been vetted, but yeah. look, you occasionally find some things, but the names that you
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mentioned, any of these folks would be would be top-tier and i think it's traditional to have your list of ten. my guess is they're looking at a very very shortlist, three or four folks very seriously, robby mook, james carville was more griffin. thank you all so much. appreciate it. coming up next more on the racially coded attack line we've been hearing another republican congressman is called kamala harris, a quote, dei hire we'll talk about that and other things with her new jersey democratic senator cory booker later with the secret service director stepping down, what a former agent makes of new details revealed today about just how long former president trump's would-be assassin had to take his shots after he was spotted by a police officer, shockingly longer than we'd been led to believe initial were driving your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. >> nothing beats it. i recommend pro enamel active shields because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a game changer for my patients. it really works when they saw
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congresswoman who defeated liz cheney. >> and it appears to be a gop talking point. here is the tennessee republican congressman who said it yesterday. >> are you suggesting she's d she was a dei hire 100%. >> she was idea seems to be the talking point also yesterday, former trump economic advisor larry kudlow said something similar on fox telling senator tommy tuberville, quote, her whole history is dei joining us now is new jersey democratic senator cory booker, senator, i assume you're not surprised by this line of attack but it is right out of the gate. >> this is what they're using. what do you make of it? >> while there are calls for unity and bringing our country together clearly didn't last long, took them 48 hours to get where they are right now. but more than that, i think it's a strategy that's going to backfire the majority of americans, women know what this feels like to do. everything you can to get your credentials, college education advanced degrees and no matter what you do, people say you're
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not enough or that you don't belong in that room and so here's kamala harris one of the most accomplished people ever to run for president united states. she was a district attorney, elected twice statewide in california, which is bigger than most countries in the world. she became a senator, served here novelly and ably and distinguished herself. she was a vice president for four years and helped usher in some of the greatest legislative achievements have any kind of whitehouse and now there are people that aren't worthy to sit at the same table with her really trying to demean and degrade her. well, to me, we don't need leadership in this country anymore. that demeans and degrades other americans. republican, democratic democrat, or independent, have your policy disagreements but to attack people in such a heinous personal way shows more about who you are than who you're talking about it fact that i mean, this is the first line of attack. >> what does that tell you about how nasty potentially
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this is going to get? >> well, again, it just exposes these republican leaders who really don't. i don't think represent the heart of the country republican base, but it shows really who these people are. and if this is the way they're going to try to inspire and lead this country. this is really who donald trump is. it reflects this kind of trumpism, which is about taking anybody, even fellow republicans, look at what donald trump has done to every woman that has ever challenged him from women in the media during presidential debates. two people like nikki haley, he constantly demeans and degrades and the belittles and puts people down it's time that we as a nation turn this page once and for all and start to support leaders from any party that inspire us. the look to the future the call us to our higher angels of our nature, not to the low quicksand of political demonization. it's enough is enough. we need in our country from both parties, people that are willing to reach across the aisle find
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common ground and build from there. >> i want to ask you about something that senator j.d. vance, this is what he said about vice president harris at his first officials solo campaign rally yesterday she talks about the history of this country, not with appreciation, but with condemnation and look, of course, every country, just like every family, certainly mine has its pockmarks, right? >> not everything is perfect. it's never going to be but you, if you want to lead this country, you should feel grateful for it. you should feel a sense of gratitude and i never hear that gratitude come through when i listen to kamala harris i'm not even sure what that means, but how do you interpret it? >> and everyone's nodding their head in the background like they know exactly what he's talking about. like there's something that she has said i mean, does it make sense to you? >> doesn't make sense to me is it's absurd first of all, i know kamala harris, i've served with calmly harris who's our friend she's in many ways as a sole sister, somebody that i
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have gotten to know really well, if you want to know about a value that she has, is this sense of gratitude, this sense of thanks, knowing that this is the contrary that could have a woman there with a black father, an indian immigrant mother, that this is a nation that could elevate someone like this to the vice presidency and soon to the president so she loves so this nation incredibly. and unlike j.d. vance, it seems to want to support things like book banning and obscuring or disney ifying our history she thinks we are great, not because we had no challenges or no racism or sexism or anti-immigrant, anti italian, anti-irish history anti-union history. now we are great because we overcame that. that every generation knuckle down with grit and overcame our imperfections and made this a more perfect union. the story of america is great because of the challenges we have overcome. she believes in this country the way that john lewis believed in this country. though he still talked about him getting beat down on the edmund pettus bridge. she
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believes in this country because fannie lou hamer agree, believed in this country participate in the political process and said proudly, ani, a woman too, should i be include, she believes in this nation the way martin luther king believed in this nation. man that was jailed and in prison, but still was willing to dream of better days for everybody. that's who kamala harris is that's kind of leadership america needs enough of these people that want to divide us against one another. let's bring us together now, once and for all and i tell you, she reminds me of this great poem by maya angelou you may try to write be down in history with your bitter, twisted lies. you may try to trot be in the very dirt, but still i rise what watch camila rise? she's going to rise to these challenges. this negativity, this kind of sinister demonization, and show america that we all of us can overcome this kind of politics. >> is that record, booker? thank you for your time thank you. >> thank you so much for having
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me. >> joining us now from the left and right, respectfully, cnn political commentators ashley allison and scott jennings. ashley, what do you hear? dei, hire some of these other things being said about kamala harris at this stage in the race. what does that tell you i wish i could say i was surprised, but i'm not i think most people, particularly people of color, particularly women of color are used to sometimes being put into a box as though me having this platform right now is if i haven't worked very hard to deserve it and earn it and to have a voice here. >> i'm not saying that the majority of people think that way, but there are people in this country clearly, some elected officials who are saying that i guess i would just talk to americans and not individuals who are calling her a dei and say, we have an opportunity in this moment to be better than that, to just as much as you deserve to live and thrive in this country. so to
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why and that is what the vice president represents. now, you don't have to agree with there are policy and how we get to a point to live and thrive. but you should see her humanity. you should see her hard work. you should see that in your neighbors and we will see it and you, but until we have leaders that are willing to actually lead like that, i'm worried that our country continues to just be more divided more insulting of each other. and we have a moment to be better. and i just hope we do it scott before she was vice president, she was a prosecutor in san francisco, the attorney general of california, us senator. >> is that the resume of a dei hire, whatever that means. >> yeah. look, i believe calmly harris is qualified to be the president. she has been the vice president. she was elected official in california. she shared in the served in the united states senate. so i believe she's qualified. i do think some of this though, dates back to joe biden himself. i mean, remember when he was picking a vice president back in 2020 if he didn't promise he heavily implied
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publicly that his principal criteria for choosing a running mate were gender and then race, and he got a lot of pressure from democrats to do that. and i think he unfairly stuck her with that when he went through his process because she is qualified i think the correct way for republicans to go after this candidacy though, is to set all this aside and focus on what she said. she said crazy things during her 2020 short-lived campaign for president. her record is standing with joe biden during an administration that has a mid-30s approval rating, you don't have to go down this road. you can say someone's qualified and you can also say, and the reason she was chosen really is because she was a super liberal who has crazy liberal ideas that have led the country off into the ditch. that's the right way to politically attack it. >> the fact though that they are choosing to go down this route, though, and right away and j.d vance, when he says that kamala harris has shown gratitude to america i mean, not only is that a ridiculously broad allegation, but it does
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sort of i mean you know, it rings of it doesn't, sound good. i mean it i mean, do you think that's a wise does that make sense to you as an argument, scott? >> know what makes sense to me is for republicans to focus on the issues that have put trump in the lead in the first place. cost of living, immigration, all the things you don't like about joe biden. she has been numbered for two and the administration that gave it to you, everything else is off target and maybe even out of bounds. so my advice would be stay over the target they've put trump on his way to the white house in the first place you get off that message. and that will be a recipe for a rocky road in the fall ashley, what do you make of j.d. vance? sort of playing this role because this, this clip surface we're going back to 2021 of him talking to tucker carlson that let's just play that we are effectively run in this country via the democrats via our corporate oligarch's by a
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bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. >> and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too. and it's just a basic facts you look at kamala harris, pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children i'm what i'm going again, just sort of that's weird. i mean, it just sort of its kind of a surprising line of attack i mean, like what's wrong with cats? >> you know, i take great offense because i'm a childless dog lady. you know, i'm not a cat person actually have a strong allergy to cats. but look, i love this country. i am a former public school, educator of worked at non-profits my family loves this country. my sister loves this country. my friends who are childless love this country. that is not a qualification on whether or not you are a leader or whether or not you have a love for this country. >> it's absurd for j.d vance to make that argument. >> but again, i'm not surprised. i think though what
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we're seeing i agree with scott has gotten agree with on this. let's talk about policy. but when people go to identifying folks, they used to be blameless of being the party of identity politics. but it seems like the republicans are doing a lot of that right now where they're using race and gender and whether or not you have a child or not as a disqualifying factor. again, we can be better than that. but when people do that senator booker just quoted one poem for my angelou. i'll quote another quote from her, is that when people show you who they are, believe you, there are a lot of black, brown, white, childless people out there. and so when he's talking about kamala harris, he's also talking about you. i'm not sure that's how you build a winning coalition. >> ashley allison, scott jennings. thanks so much coming up more attacks on the vice president are citizenship, raise the misinformation and smear are spreading online about her donie o. sullivan has more on that next welcome to the now way to network.
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president biden and the democratic party rallied around kamala harris is there now presumptive nominee for the presidency? >> misinformation about her has been spreading fast online, questioning her citizenship and raised and smearing her reputation with altered videos and photoshopped images. donie o'sullivan joins us now. so what have you been seeing out there? >> anderson, look, a lot of this is what you'd expect if it runs the gamut a lot of folks pushing this or trying to hide their racism. more senators and other folks are just being very blatant about it. so it's the stuff like photoshopped images, videos, and new birther conspiracy theory that she is in some way eligible to be president of the united states, which has faults. a lot of it's literally they're doing the birthers. >> oh, yeah. >> it's really at this but i mean, it's quite interesting to see because it's, you can see they're just trying everything out. there and seeing what sticks. also as well. playing into this idea that this was coup that she organized a coup, or that she is working for the clintons are the obamas because in this kind
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of right-wing online sphere, they are the most evil. if you can tie harris to them, then it makes life a bit easier. i want to show you one photoshopped image. we don't know what it was ai photoshopped or otherwise, but it's pretty crude this is the sort of thing going around the original image there. obviously harris with the second gentleman, and there you can see epstein falsely put into an image. there's all that because there are actual pictures of donald trump with jeffrey epstein, who he did hang out with socially yet know the irony is lost on people missing. >> know why i felt. >> like even something like that. you see in this context, it's obviously stupid, but you've even seen yourself on and reporting on q anon and things for for all these things in the future in months later can get grabbed and put together presented in a kind of people believe this stuff and they do, they do seem totally normal. believe this stuff they do. there's also conspiracy
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theories, both on the right and the left about the assassination attempt on former president trump. >> yeah. >> the amount of people in the left to initially i mean, literally i was looking at stuff online, didn't believe it was real. it was incredible to me and still don't believe they believe they're still hanging on to them. >> that it was staged. >> and actually last week at the rnc, we were at an anti-trump protest and we spoke to some democratic voters and here's what they had to say i think it is a terrible comments on the country state right now that anyone would anywhere that it's appropriate to shoot at any political candidate but i couldn't help but wonder because we've been lied to over and over by this man. the way he came up and raised his fist and act did like it was nothing. he wants to make it into something big. >> you're saying. >> well, maybe it was a state's assassination attempt that i hate that that's what i'm doing. i hate that.
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that's where i have gone i wonder why i've gone there and what really frightens me in scares me and makes me angry suddenly now, i'm in on a conspiracy st. theory understand it was really fascinating to speak to those ladies because as you can see there, mary man was her name and wisconsin she knows that what they're engaging in, what they're speaking about is irrational. >> run yes. she's being honest with us. she was like, look, this is what i still believe because i cannot believe this and i think a really paints a pretty bleak picture. i think of where we are in this country right now where people really don't know what to believe yeah, it is fascinating. >> i mean, yeah, it's also i mean, this is just the beginning of the disease absolutely. >> and look, look, obviously any we're still talking about the jfk fascination many years later. so look, i should point out that on the rice, lots of folks including alex jones who still out there on twitter, despite all the lawsuits and everything has almost 3 million followers, he's saying it was the deep states that tried to
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kill trump and importantly, pushing this idea that the deep state are going to continue to try again, but just one final 0.1 thing i would mention is that last week we were at the rnc as well as they're being cnn and the other big global news organizations. there is just this whole world now of the likes of where steve bannon broadcast mike lindell, the my pillow guy hears his own media empire and these are all organizations that are pushing propaganda, that are pushing lies at the same time as news organizations are letting go. a journalist world donie, donie o'sullivan, thanks so much coming up. >> the secret service director response to her critics demanding she stepped down plus new revelations about the security lapses in the attempted assassination of the former president jury hearing today to me, harlem is the home, is also your body last one, i ask myself, why does it pilates exist in harlem so i
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secret service, kimberly cheatle, resigned today, saying the agency fell short. her words ten days ago when a gunman was able to place himself on a rooftop, aim and nearly assassinated the former president's biden extensive security many presidents, she'd rejected bipartisan calls for her resignation as of monday. the services deputy director will now lead the embattled agency, turning now to the investigation though would the actual security breakdown, pennsylvania state police commissioner testified today before homeland security committee, the two local law enforcement officers were inside a building with vanish judge points looking points overlooking, i should say, the roof where the gunman would soon fire, but they left to look for suspicious individual that turned turned out to be him. he also said the length of time between when a police officer encountered the gunman on that roof and when the shots were fired at the former president, was much longer than he had once indicated the first shots rang out at 18:11 hours the hoisting up of the officer
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occurred probably no more again, i'm going to give you a time, but i want to just put it we understand it. >> specific sequence of events. i would say at most two-and-a-half to three minutes before that first shot wrong? it was minutes. it was a very short period of time even for his ability, not seconds. i would say minutes that's remarkable for more on what we heard today. i'm joined by senior justice correspondent evan perez and former secret service agent jonathan wackrow evan, i mean, the idea that it was minutes from a police officer hoisting up, seeing a guy with a gun, and then you know, not engaging with them and then that guy is still being able to be up there as incredible i understand you have new video just released from the scene of the shooting yeah. >> anderson, we just got this video that was released by senator chuck grassley, and one of the things that that we, learned in this new video, you're seeing the aftermath of the shooting and you see secret service agent of there talking
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to some of the local officers who were on the scene and you can see the body of the gunman. you can see the blood trailing on the on the roof there and you also see a shot there of the building nearby, which is what the pennsylvania police commissioner there was talking about. but that's where these officers first spotted this man and took video or took took a pictures rather that they sent out to police did they saw him on a bicycle? they saw a bag and considered him to be suspicious. and that's the reason why they sent out that video. now center ground i say sent a letter to the homeland security department, enter the secret service asking for more information. one of the things you also see in this video that was released by the beaver county emergency management emergency services unit what one of the things you hear is someone saying they want access to a drone to take a look at the scene. and again, and this
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is in the aftermath of the shooting of the shooting. now, anderson, you remember that the secret service director said that they did not use a drone to provide security for us the rally and we do know that the shooter did use a drone to essentially look at the scene that he was about to attack later that day. >> and evan, there were more details about the aftermath of the shooting that came out during that hearing, right. >> and so the christopher parris, the pennsylvania state police commissioner, who testified quite about, by the way, i understand they invited other public officials to testify and he's the only one that showed up to provide that testimony. one of the things he did, correct. himself there when he refers to those two to three minutes, he saying the amount of time that the shooter was on that roof. he later clarified that there was only seconds from the time that one officer takes takes a look at him and the time that the shots were but actually fired, but it really does raise the question
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going back to what you, what you played earlier in the segment here the police, who were supposed to be in that building and might have had a view of him getting on that on that roof could have made a difference, could have made a difference in obviously him getting access to it and having enough time to fire those shots. that is going to be a big part of this investigation going forward. >> and so i just want to be clear because i misunderstood or the way he phrased it, maybe he phrased it wrong. it is not it was not minutes between the police officer seeing the guy and dropping down and the shots. it was seconds but it was that the shooter was on the roof itself that's correct. >> and he wasn't seen there because those officers who did have a view of that roof had left to try to go find him johnson and what stands out to you about this video and also the details that have come out now well, listen, i think the details are really important
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here. >> and what this is, what we really wanted to start hearing yesterday during the testimony by the director of the secret service but what you're really starting to see, especially when you're talking about the two officers that left their posts to go try to address a threat when i hear that to me, it signals that the roles and responsibility of the local law enforcement there specific post was not clearly understood but prior to this event ever taking place, again, if those two officers were there providing the overwatch and surveillance of those rooftops as they should have been. they would have identified this individual right away and most likely would have been able to stop this type of attack prior to happening to me. it's the roles and responsibilities during the advanced were not articulated properly by the secret service with their local law enforcement partners. again, law enforcement was probably doing the right thing. they had the right intent to try to go find in address a threat.
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however, these posts are carefully curated to overwatch critical locations. this was a critical location so by the fact that these officers left in left that area of vulnerable, we see the tragic consequences that it caused. >> we've been looking wackrow, evan perez. thank you. appreciate it. next, kamala harris's husband, second gentleman, doug emhoff, on the campaign trail for her today and firing back at donald trump as well. take a look at his enduring relationship with harris nothing dems my light, like a migraine with nortech ott. >> i found really the only migraine medications and that helps treat and prevent all-in-one to those with migraine. i see you for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults don't take if allergic to near teco d team allergic reactions can occur even days after using most common side effects are nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. >> it's time. we option talk to a health care provider about nortech ott from pfizer.
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former president donald trump's attacks on his wife vice president kamala harris. emhoff promise that team harris will prosecute the case against donald trump and his lies, his gaslighting his during covid the dereliction of duty inciting an insurrection. and all those other things. he's loyalty unmistakable as it has been for more than a decade. >> the 59-year-old emhoff proudly plays the role of plus one at harris his side when she was california's attorney general, us senator, and later the country's first female vice president. >> i'm married to the first woman ever to hold this role. so first of all as second gentleman, that means i'm her husband first and it'd be supportive husband so she can do her job as vice president united states emhoff for his part has been rallying voters on two key issues, reproductive rights and anti antisemitism. >> emhoff is the first jewish
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spouse of any vice president or president for that matter. a role he has taken very seriously since early in the administration, part of the work that we had done prior to october 7 was the first ever national strategy to combat and eye semitism. all of us must be against this, must be against anti-semitism. i will not remain silent and i'm proud to be jewish i'm proud to live openly as a jew and i'm not afraid. we cannot live in fear. we refuse to be afraid on reproductive rights. >> he's worked to engage both women and men around the country. this is a issue of fairness to women. women are dying emhoff and harris first met on a blind date in 2013. i left this ridiculous voicemail which she has saved and plays back to me on your anniversary every year, i thought i never hear from her again, but but it
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was just it was adorable. >> we did go on that first day a love at first sight i we were literally talking about our future at the end of that first date and that next morning, i'm sending her an email. here are my availabilities for the next six months and ten years later, 11 years later. here we are emhoff in harris, married in 2014. they're blended family includes two adult children from emhoff's marriage to his first wife for harris, the title of stepmom just didn't fit their word for me as mom allah and so they call me mom ella in 2019 during the campaign, emhoff's sprang to his feet to help protect his wife from an animal rights activist who had rushed the stage. he later tweeted this we are good. i love kamala harris and would do anything for her. emhoff was born in brooklyn, new york and raised in new jersey he has a law degree from the university of southern california and since moving to dc, has taught at georgetown
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law school. now with his wife unofficially at the top of the ticket. doug emhoff could become the country's inaugural first gentleman. >> and anderson emhoff schedule could get a whole lot busier. >> we understand that he will be headlining two fundraisers next week. he will actually be stepping in for first lady jill biden and headlining those one is july 29. that is set to include a conversation with david letterman that will take place in vineyard haven massachusetts. the other one is just a couple of days later in yarmouth main. we also understand that the governor of hawaii, josh green will be at that first fund raiser on july 29. again, he is stepping in for first lady jill biden, but anderson, this really shouldn't surprise us. we expect that his schedule will ramp up because certainly in 2020 on the campaign trail, he spoke at a lot of rally he was very active on social media and he was really out there. >> randi kaye, thanks so much. the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts no