announcement that he'll stay on, but in a reduced role well, i don't know if that's true or not, but the question is, then who does play that role and that's very important in the last hundred and five days of this campaign, i just wanted to take a little bit of a diverse to send a shout out to everybody at this head. their flights canceled. there's been sleeping in these airports because of what's going on with the glitches and to make a point that we don't make nearly enough, which is this all leading airlines can ruin your day in leave you stuck and lose your bags and everything else. and they don't ever have to give you your money back i can't think of any other business in the world where they can mess up everything that's going for you and you don't at least get 50% on aging secretary, pete right? >> you got is not been you talked to him a much more about that, everyone. >> thank you so much for joining us and thank you for watching us here knights stated races. dan, laura coates live starts right now well, the

scenario republicans dreamed up it turns out it might be a nightmare. >> they can't shake tonight on laura coates live okay, so riddle me this. how is it that a campaign that spent literally month arguing the president biden was not fit to run and should not be running appears to now be caught flat-footed when he decides to get out of the race. you really didn't follow what that thread could possibly mean. it's like kamala harris came out of nowhere, right? i mean, she is the sitting vice president. her name it was on the bumper stickers and for months, candidates just been a vote for biden was a vote for harris so what was the republican political strategy to perhaps combat the possibility that it might in fact be her. they appear to be starting from scratch and the itch seems crudely familiar step one, find a nickname. but trump hasn't

seemed decide on one as of yet. he seems to go back and forth between insulting her as laughing camila, and lyon camila step to define her, or at least try to define her in the first 72 hours since biden side is not run for reelection, republicans have been all over the map on how to define her exactly, including debating whether to ignorant lee attack her as some deep ei kennedy, rather acknowledging her formidable resume is worthwhile i don't think we didn't even say stuff like that. >> don't think so look commonly issan because her record is abysmal. >> we are just repeating way but joe biden himself said, and i dropped the receipts well, vice president harris for her part, she seems to be paying none of this any mind. >> she hit the ground running today as the de facto nominee. we there was so much buzz around her first rally in milwaukee and you can hear the beyond saved soon, right? freedom that has been apparently allowed for her to

use as well. there was so much momentum and energy and crowd size. they actually had to move it to a larger venue. and her message, well, it was exactly what the crowd seemed to want to hear donald trump wants to take our country backward, but we are not going back are not going look, there's no doubt the democrats are undeniably energized. they now see a race that was dismissed to them as somehow out of reach and suddenly now it appears to be a jump ball and look at them that latest it's a national poll. it is indeed a competitive race. hillary clinton tonight putting it this way, the next 15 weeks will be like nothing this country has ever experienced politically but have no doubt this is a race democrats can and must win but

if that's the shot here comes the chaser. in a memo, the trump campaign points out the policy issues like inflation and immigration that dragged biden down in the first place won't be erased overnight by a new nominee saying quote before long harris is honeymoon, we'll end. voters will refocus on her role as biden's partner and copilot well, i want to bring in the mayor of milwaukee, cavalier johnson. he met harris at the airport upon her arrival to milwaukee, mayor johnson, so good to see. we were all in your city just last week. how are you i'm doing great. >> nice to see you again well, you were at the rally today in the crowd. >> i mean, they sounded energized completely. do you have an impression that there is more enthusiasm now for harris than there was for biden well, let me tell you this that this was certainly a shot in

the arm i was an enthusiastic supporter of president biden's from the beginning and remained until the and respected his decision to stay in the race respected his decision to bow out of the race, but vice president harris his presence on this stage and in this city and on in this state has totally changed the game has totally energetic democrats on the ground here in milwaukee throughout wisconsin, like we are really pumped, we are amped, we're sight to see vice president kamala harris take this all the way to election day. i mean, we remember that biden only won wisconsin by little over, i think 20,000 votes back in 2020. and most of the recent state polling has shown that biden trump or tied. now of course this is different ballgame. now, biden's not on the top of the ticket, but one of biden's biggest vulnerabilities was the cost of living. does harris inherit that association? and perhaps liability?

>> well, i think what we saw in the biden administration was that inflation in the united states wasn't a much better position than what inflation has been in developed countries all around the world so if if we're talking about president biden's record and reflecting on kamala harris the fact of the matter is that the u.s. is in a much stronger position than countries all around the world. the question i would ask, talking about president biden, folks ask questions about his age. is now donald trump is actually the oldest presidential nominee in american history. those the questions i think folks should be asking now. >> i certainly think they will be asking that question. and also, it'll be curious if the same issue that biden had, the economy which was on the one hand touting his successes the other hand, trying to deal with what i call the feel a nomics problem that he will feel as though they had the success, they could trickle down to themselves. that'll be the challenge to convey that same sentiment here. also, what's challenging though, mayor, for me to try to comprehend is this

accusation this ignorant attack of harris as somehow a dei, hire, ignoring the qualifications that she has listened to a republican wyoming congresswoman harriet higman had to say i mean, intellectually, just really kind of the bottom of the barrel. i think she was a dei hire i want to see that beryl because if the bottom is a former attorney general, former senator, and vice president, that's a hell of a barrel maire it's quite the barrel. >> and look, kamala harris's record speaks for itself, right? she's got a history of sticking up for the little guy, of fighting for the people this vice president has a history of taking on fraudsters, of taken on perpetrators of taken on criminals sheets, right? that's why she is the best position to prosecute the case against donald trump. if republicans want to talk about dei will on january 20, 2025 kamala harris is going to make

them understand that dei mayor it's duly elected incumbent, and that's directly from my friend mayor brandon scott in baltimore i love a good was it call them that we call an acronym. thank you. see there was the anagram owl now acronym. look, it's 11 seven. okay. mayor jonathan, thank you for joining me today. i appreciate it thank you. with me now, liam donovan, republican strategist and former national republicans the toilet committee aide, also with me now and misha cross, a democratic strategist and former obama campaign adviser, glad to have you both here. first of all, i want to focus on this idea that it seems like there was no plan for the republicans to try to go at effectively the possibility that it could have been someone other than biden, was the plan really just to dangle the possibility that he should not be there and that was the end of the consideration. >> well, you mentioned the the dream turned into a nightmare. i think this was your right-wing uncles fever dream for him, playing out at every

step of the way over the last month, biden got up there and fell apart on the debate stage. they were going to come around and switch him out, but the expectation was always going to be somebody else is going to be michelle obama is going to the gavin newsom, who's going to be gretchen whitmer. i think republicans are still struggling with the idea that democrats not only have rallied around kamala harris, but their cindy really excited about this and in an environment where republicans over recent years are mostly happy when democrats are sad, i think there's a fundamentally disorienting experience to watch as the plan comes to fruition wait, everybody's happy, it's like the grinch stole christmas and the whose or senior around the christmas tree. i think that's what thrown them. there's a messaging vacuum right now into that space. you're having people coming out in front of the mics and st. really dumb things. i do think you're starting to see the real attacks start to percolate. david mccormick's messaging and pennsylvania are some of the the as you're going to start to see, and i think that'll be followed. but speaker johnson is right when saying republicans are stepping on their own messaging and actually it's the best favor that you could do for comment

harris is to insult her in personal terms because people don't think that they're being reintroduced to her, that maybe assess they can do is attack her personally that no, no, i'm saying what but what's the message for republicans to be able to the jazz? but what is the issue you can't assume that people consume the same right-wing media that files her away. in the way that you think they are as a republican member, you have to be reintroducing them to her record. she was the 50 verse vote for the biden spending that brought on inflation. she was the borders are at a time when the border is out of control. these are the sorts of message i think you're going to see them hit her on every position she took out of step with in extreme in 2019 in the context of the 2020 primaries. that's we're going to see over and over, but stay away from the personality stuff that's only going to blow back for you and republicans. >> i mean, speaker johnson seems to agree with that philosophy but the policies, not the personality, but then again, tell a baby not to cry. and these politics, i mean, already talking about a dei hire. i have no idea what that is supposed to mean other than the acronym that was us but i do wonder from your perspective and misha, i mean, this is

somebody who is likely going to inherit some of the ill-will, if not all, towards biden as being a part of the ticket. this mud biden had to contend with if in terms of his association with former president barak obama, are there obvious s to contend with and she could distinguish herself from her well, her running mate yesterday year? >> absolutely. i think to your point, it might have been a smarter track for them to go after policy. however, i would argue that they are going to stay in a very uncomfortable blame for a lot of people in the eye attacks in the black woman hood attacks because they love to concert and racism that is where they get their excitement from, even though isolates many minorities across this country as well as younger populations who are not comfortable with that language at all. i think that what we're seeing here is someone who in kamala harris knew exactly the underpinnings of being on this ticket originally because she saw the polls, americans were largely do not like the current

economic status and the mayor was right we stand as a exemplar to the world when it comes to bring the economy back from the pandemic. but moms go into the grocery stores are not comparing their tickets now to what european mom's hand they are looking at the cost today versus the cost 56 years ago. i think that she's going to have to be able to wrap around and economic message of progress yes, in growth, but also actually speak to where people are lean in on the fact that folks are having a really hard time with the cost of living right now, rent increases, things like that, bringing that to bear, having those voices also on the campaign and talking about strategies, working with communities to alleviate that pain. those are things she is going to have to do. we're already seeing her move forward in some of the some of the agenda item, specifically around what we see with the protests related to israel and gaza. she is not going to be at that joint session of congress obviously, she's want to have a separate meeting with it. yahoo, but she's not going to be at that joint session. >> that problematic for her not to attend me. there are some who are going to characterize that as a boycott and there are those who are actively saying

they're not attending because they will do it as a boycott. she has been intimated in some respects that maybe it elevates her that she's not somebody simply an a perfunctory role who was just overseeing, but instead, she will meet personally with netanyahu, a world leader. how do you think she needs to? dress that point of her absence? >> well, i think it's just that first and foremost, she said she had another engagement, but beyond that, i think that it is she is having this meeting with him one-on-one. if she is to be the next leader of the free world well, those are the types of meetings that she's going to have to engage in as a vice president. she did not have to do that regularly of course, she met with nation state leaders across the globe, but to be the person who may in fact be the next commander in chief, it matters that she is exemplifying that power and that strengthen that positioning right now. >> and that's precisely what they're going to try to attack her on if they were to focus on policy and that at being second in command is not the same thing as being first and command. and that's interesting because they're suggests miss, you haven't somehow she was running the country because of cognitive decline of president biden, which there's no evidence since i've but how do

you focus on the issues of policy when there is an appetite for so many to go against her and attacker on culture wars issues on race and gender. there are echoes of birtherism, although, albeit for different reasons, but that same philosophy behind it how do you get the republicans to focus on those? issues and not alienated as me, she's talking about those who have no appetite for that. well malarky, the campaign has set the tone. >> i think that's part of the issue here is they've been awfully quiet out of the gate and i don't think that's because they were unprepared, but i do think they're trying to get their bearings before they get the message out. i think that's part of the key is getting people on the same page. i don't think that this sort of talking points are going now to the surrogates are going out to the hill that needs to change. i will say this, the trump campaign over the last 910 months has been the most organized and disciplined has been the candidate is always going to be he's a candidate, but even for donald trump, he has been trying to step away from some of these land mines. he's listening to his campaign and i think that needs to come from

the top and we'll have to see if they can pull it off. for the next 15 weeks. >> also, this time is so crucial to expand the tent for both republicans and democrats and listen to what susan rice had to say when she was addressing this ignorance right? claim of harris being a dei candidate that's extremely offensive and dehumanizing. >> and let me tell you what it means when somebody calls a person like me for anybody else that dei hire, what that means is, if you are a woman of any background if you are a person of color if you are an immigrant, if you are lgbtq if you are disabled, if you're religious minority if you're a veteran and you achieved success rose to a position of leadership. you didn't deserve it she expanded the ten to the notion of who you're thinking about for dei, is that going to be problematic for republicans?

i think it will be problematic for republicans long term, but more importantly, it's going to be a real tough spot in some of these battleground states, because i do think that republicans have been using that the dei framework that anti-dei framework for quiet some time now, eliminating it across multiple states and colleges and universities we saw at be led to the forceful removal of the first black president of harvard university. we also saw those attacks on the secretary lloyd austin. you named the black successful person. they'd been attacked as a dei hire irrespective of all the work they did to get to the positions they are i think it's really frustrating to watch, but i also feel like america as a wolf going around what this is, is being used as they student him for the inward when we're talking about black people, but we're also seeing attacks on white women as well. we just saw it with the with the secret service, the head of the secret service, she would was described as one too. i think that there is something to be said about a push to isolate women and minority groups. and this conversation that expands the definition of dei to also include the people that it does veterans, a disabled populations, immigrant populations. you're attacking

so many people that are not hetero well sexual white males under one umbrella. and i don't think america is going to sail for that. you're shifting in your seat. why? >> i think it is a difficult minefield to walk through at a time when the incentive structures on the right our are geared towards some bombastic rhetoric that doesn't play to the sorts of voters that are necessary to win this election. i will say, i think at a time when president trump is banking on making significant inroads with people who don't typically vote republican with diverse audiences. it absolutely asked me something they're attuned to. they need to watch their message and i think if they can keep it to policy well, see that's their best to opportunity. >> well, we'll see how it all unfold. thank you, both of you so much less in president biden is back at the white house preparing to speak to the american people directly for the first time since he dropped out of the race. but what will he say and how will it be received i'll ask obama's former speech writer and the white house bureau chief for the washington imposed max we

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can save erin burnett outfront tomorrow at seven on cnn? i do not believe that i should devote an hour or a day of my time to any the personal partisan causes or to any duties other than the awesome duties of this office? the presidency of your country well, that speech helped define the legacy of president lyndon b. >> johnson. he decided not to run for reelection back in 1960 the aid after division in discord from the vietnam war and civil rights movement swept

across the country. tomorrow night. >> a similar speech could define president biden's political legacy when he reveals why he's withdrawing from the race he is the first president since lbj to not seek reelection. >> the president arriving back in washington tonight after recovering from covid with me now to lou olorunnipa, white house bureau chief for the washington post and teres sues plaid, who is here as well, a former speech writer for president obama and author of the upcoming book. say it. well glad to have both of you here that we got this sort of political dear john letter that came on sunday it was not lengthy by any stretch. we heard his voice yesterday on that campaign headquarters call and moment. but to lou, this will be the first time we're going to hear president biden speaking to the american audience about his decision. and i wonder what are you hearing about the nature and substance of what he will say? >> well, first the context of the president's speech, just a

couple of weeks ago, he was being accused of being too selfish, putting his self-interests ahead of the party ahead of the country, that has totally flipped on its head. now, a lot of the people in the democratic party are saying that this is an act of selflessness. he is a statesman and i imagine that's what you're going to hear from him as his speaks to the country, talking about his legacy, talking about what he's done over the last three-and-a-half years and also putting it in the context context of his 50 years in public life and talking about the importance of saving the democracy seeing the types of things that were part of his reelection pitch are now going to be a part of his legacy pitch. and talking about how he wants to make sure that his legacy is remembered as someone who stood up for democracy, stood up for these various ideals. but at the same time, he has to remember that he is now a lame duck, and that means that he is going to be competing against history beating against his own vice president, who's going to be soaking up more of the spotlight. so this may be the last opportunity that he adds this huge platform to give his message to because very soon this problem it's going to be shifting much more onto kamala harris and he's not going to

have the same kind of focus that he has had as president thus far. >> i mean, it's very, it's a, it's a needle to thread on the one hand wanting to have your legacy be on your own terms and then not be boisterous bombastic, or narcissistic about your approach to relaying it to people. as tulum rightly points out, he is a layman duck, but he also because his vice president will be the democratic nominee, he's aware that his words could have an impact on her own candidacy what would you write for this? president to say sure. >> well, you know, when i was in the white house, i always sort of struggled to in folks in the outside told us how to write our speeches because we were in there beech riders, president biden's speech writers know him best. they know his voice, which is really the job of a speech writer to make sure you're channeling the voice of the person you're running for me i've always speeches are stories. every speech has a story and i think this one probably has four big parts. i think the opening part is you'll recount. i would

expect him to recap now, his record of achievement and they're significant over the past four years and as you said, the past 50 years, i will expect him to. secondly describe in in very personal terms why he is doing this. obviously, he said in a letter the other day why he did, but now we can see and we can look at him, we can hear his voice he can explain to us why he's doing this third he still has six months as president. a lot can happen in six months, both on the campaign and presence can sometimes times have great achievements in six months. so i think you'll probably lay out what his goals are for the next six months. and then i think finally he'll frame this moment in american history. he'll frame this election as a defining moment for our democracy and expect a forceful endorsement and defense and support for his vice president, kamala harris. >> i mean, you've got truman lbj and now, of course course biden different reasons and of course, historians could quibble with it truly being magnanimous or not. there's

greater context rounding why lbj and of course vietnam and all the things were going on when you look at this, the idea that a lame duck, i mean, is he sort of unshackled now as a lame duck, even though his running mate is now going to be the candidate with you executive order is becoming into play. well, there'll be more action a little bit more of a a bite and a bark. >> well, he doesn't have to think about reelection anymore. he is somewhat unshackled he can do the types of things that may be politically risky. but because he's not running for reelection, he is not facing the voters anymore. he could do some things with executive actions. i do expect us to see the some of that, but we also have to remember that he's done quite a lot of executive actions over the past three years because he's had especially over the last two years, he's had a congress that has not been willing to pass very much just very tight margins over the course of his presidency. and so he's result resorted to executive action over and over and over again. and so some of that has already been exhausted. there are some things that he hasn't yet done in some people who are more progressive, i've been pushing him to do things like declaring

a climate emergency, for example, and he could do those things that are a lot of things on foreign policy that he may do but as well. so i wouldn't be surprised if we see him using his pen and has phone in the last six months of his presidency, a new type of bully pulpit, perhaps when there's little bit embroiled, i do wonder if your perspective did terry with him deciding to essentially retire at the end of this term? there are those who are in his peer group immediately who are stepping down from leadership positions just to name a few is this an end of an kind of era? is that part of the legacy that this will mark i think, you know, one of the things they talk about in the book is sort of what makes a great leader, what makes a great speaker, and so often we hear but speeches, but that are not backed by words. >> and deeds. ted sorensen, jfk speech writer, famously said that a speech, even an eloquent elevated speech, is still just a speech saying it's so does it make it so so another way to think about that, words have to be backed up by deeds. and so i

think what we're seeing right now is a leader, joe biden, actually backing up his words with deeds. we've heard that we read the words, yes, in the letter. he's actually backing up with most profound deed of all, something that leaders in this country and around the world almost never do. which is to give up power. that is a profound act of sacrifice where the republican or democrat, that is they profound act. it's rare. and i think it immediately takes joe biden out of these sort of partisan politics. the daily fights that we're surrounded by i think it has a potential to elevate him. i think his speech tomorrow could be one of the more significant speeches in american history. because again, it's being matched by deeds, ad that is so profound. >> i'll be curious to see. it will be a kind of a war shock test. and we'll be looking for his mentioned and cognitive decline or anything else. he of course, i was unlucky to mention any of that it's his reason for wanting to step aside. but you're right. this is a particular point in american history and the entire

world is really watching what's happening in this country. >> we're going to hear something tomorrow that we've rarely heard we certainly well, thank you both so much. well, how is trump handling this big campaign shakeup will get inside his mind with the one and only anthony scaramucci lucci, plus the secret service director resigning today as we get the first look at body cam video from officers who were on the scene, right after and assassination attempt on donald john saturday on the whole story, political violence has always threatened our democracy after the attempt on trump's life. where does america go from here? the whole story with anderson cooper, political violence america as bloody history, saturday at 8:00 on cnn excuse me. >> can i get die? >> when people couldn't buy some popcorn?

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his new presidential rival trump, calling vice president kamala harris different versions of lyon camila apparently on truth, social, at least four times. and that's just since midnight. trump also vows to debate her, but he wants to switch networks from abc to fox news it's quite clear the ticket shake-up is forcing the trump campaign to make maybe rethink their campaign strategy instead of going after another white man of a similar age, he must campaign against women of color who is 20 years younger than me history shows his attacks can be viewed as downright sexist and racist what we want to do is to replenish the searching fund. >> purposely mix up like a name like birdbrain, you know who birdbrain is, right? nikki would that she pelosi. i i put them in because they're interchangeable in my in the wings. they've got a local racist democrat district attorney in atlanta who is

doing everything in her power to indict me over an absolutely perfect phone call well, joining me now, anthony scaramucci, former white house communications director under trump, anthony good to see you tonight. >> a lot has changed in the last time you and eyes folks, there's now somebody who is going to be the new presumptive democratic nominee. and kamala harris. and frankly, just playing those clips just now, we saw how trump campaign against hillary clinton. how do you think he'll handle campaigning against kamala harris? >> so i don't think he's figured it out yet, and i think when you look at the data, she's at the tail end of the baby boom or gen z person and, you know, like it or not, we've lost about 20 million baby boomers since the 2016 election at the same time, about 40 million gen z-ers have become eligible for voting so this mix has his team very upset because

going up against an 81 81-year-old, you could do that type of behavior. but now you've got gen z interested in yeah. yeah. i mean, i'm sorry. i meant to say gen x, but the point i'm making is that the demographics have now changed in terms of who is going to be voting in the election. and so they have to redo their calculus. he spending a rubik's cube of word salads in his head right now and he can't find the right buttons, the push, and he's got people like susie wiles saying, you better cool it out on the racist and sexist stuff whose you'll have legions of women miles deep voting, waiting eight to 12 hours a vote for kamala harris. so he's he's not very yet, laura, i don't think he's panicking. that's not as the personality. you think he's more worried about j.d. >> vance well, speaking of j.d. vance, i mean, that when she ascended to the top of the ticket, obviously change that dynamic and the atlantic reports that trump campaign officials acknowledged that

choosing j.d. vance was well meant to run up the margins with the base and a blow out rather than persuade twin voters in a nail biter. so he is saying that he still would have chosen vance, but do you think that he has any kind of sort of buyers remorse on his selection well, it's 100%. >> he does. i know his personality very well, and there's three quick things. he absolutely hated that acceptance speech at the convention. >> if you're going to work for mr. trump, it's one minute on you 35 minutes on mr. trump. >> and that wasn't that speech we hated that number to trump sees himself as a casting director and these are actors on a stage. and j.d. vance doesn't look the part he doesn't sound the port i mean, his nickname now is like just all vance. he's just very dull up there. and there's one thing that donald trump hates is daus you could be behind the scenes like mike pence and you're going to look like a senior statesman and get away with it with donald trump. but you

can't be dull. and you can't be ineffectual, which is jd vance's display right now over the last ten or so days, i don't understand why that wasn't clear that that would have been his persona as you describe prior to now, this was a very lengthy vp veepstakes. >> why is it just accrington that might be an issue so it's a really good question. >> do not underestimate the impact of that assassination attempt. it was a very unfortunate thing, and i'm glad the secret service is admitted. they're false and she's resigned over it. it's a disaster for the country, but don't underestimate what happened to him. the trauma of all that and then how certain things could have probably fallen by the wayside at the same time, he was getting a power surge in the polls and so vance was sort of that double down on the bass mode as opposed to picking somebody like a nikki haley that would have spread them out. and increase the likelihood of a

victory. so he's in a box right now. and he is again, remember, never forget this about donald trump. he is a television performer and he's an actor. and he does not like his supporting actor right now, it'll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple of months the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, and a possible vp pick his name is on this spoke to our own kaitlan collins earlier tonight about the debate. listen to what he said ben so you think he's ok afraid to debate her? >> what do you think so? because i think she is going to be so effective and she's going to lay bare his inability to talk about anything but himself and his past do you agree i do. end. he has to debate or and does not gonna be on fox and may maybe on another network other than abc but he has no choice but to debater it'll demolish him if he doesn't do that. and it's also his egos in it, laura, so he's

definitely going to debate her but we'll see he is vowing to do so at least on truth, social will see what that debate looks like. >> she's not pulling any punches, expecting that split screen. anthony scaramucci. thank you so much good to be here. well, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, speaking to congress to barro already in washington dc tonight. but some key people will be skipping out on that particular speech, including vice president harris. so what does her absence signal? well, if anything, will talk about it after this it's hard to watch yourself we pulled out of a building but a tornado doug someone needs to customize and saved hundreds and car insurance with liberty mutual let's, fly i thought you were

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minister benjamin netanyahu is addressed to congress tomorrow, though. >> she will meet with him separately later this week. a harris aide saying the vp will be traveling to indianapolis for a previously scheduled event joining me now cnn political and national security analyst, david sanger. he is the author of new cold wars, china's rise, russia's invasion, and america's struggle to save the west. david good to have you here is house republican leader is saying that her absence is akin to a boycott. do you read anything into her absence? >> well, first of all, she does have this other campaign event to go to, but >> not in the owl, not only over the war in gaza. she's been on the phone with many of these conversations that the president has engaged with them. so she understands the degree of tension but she's

also got to meet him at the white house because she's gotta begin to do things that look presidential as if she is separated from the president's presence here. and so she's meeting them separately. and then he's going to morrow logo to meet donald trump is there daylight between kinda harris's viewpoints and stance on the israel hamas war or gaza specifically from president biden we don't know yet and i suspect that in the campaign and the interviews, we're going to begin to flush that out. she gave a speech that was very sympathetic to the palestinians who had been under attack by the israelis, saying many innocence died in the effort to go root out hamas us. she gave it a little more forcefully and powerfully than the president did. but that doesn't mean that there's a big difference in their view the problem that she has and the president has is

there in precisely the difficult spot in the middle, which is to say that by canceling just. one order of weaponry from israel that they did not want used against civilians. 2000 pound bombs they the administration enraged the pro-israel crowd. but in general, the pro-palestinian crowd things that the united states shouldn't be provided to conduct the war in gaza. so they're in a tough spot. she's going to have to define where on that spectrum she fits. >> now only will the american voters wanted to have that definition clear and quickly world leaders are looking at obviously the distinction between what harris administration would look like and a trump administration. how do you think the world would see those distinctions? >> well, it depends who in the world you're talking about. if you're vladimir putin, your interest here is pretty clear. you want president trump to return to office? the president has said he would solve the ukraine war in 24 hours.

>> i'm not entirely sure how you do that lower the only way no one clear and i don't think that trump knows either. i suspect he's got a pretty good idea, which is that, you go to the ukrainians and say you're gonna let the russians take the part of the the country they already have, which is roughly 20%. and if you don't do that, we're going to cut off your aid. >> right? but if you do do that, you'll get continued aid. so my guess is he'll try to do something very different than what president biden and vice president harris has done, which is to say nothing about ukraine without ukraine. >> but there are other areas is vice president harris is going to be as tough on cutting off semiconductors and advanced equipment to try and the trying to containment effort. >> if she's going to be as vocal as president biden was in saying that if china invades taiwan, the u.s. will send groups. >> is she going to work as hard on the japan, south korea relationship or is she going to

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hollered what should have happened and why wasn't trump? removed from the stage that's an excellent question. >> there's i think a clear failure of communication and my opinion and what happened here, between the civilians seeing the shooter on the roof, and they obviously clearly communicated that to local law enforcement. and according to did the pennsylvania state police, that communication was then relayed to the secret service command post. what happened after that? that is really the question on what the investigation is going to reveal. why wasn't something acted upon and where the failure of communication, the failure to act really indicated i think of that communication umbrella as quite large at this point in time. let me ask you because the secret service director cheatle has now resigned, has been ten days since that assassination attempt. and you say that the culture needs to change at the secret service. >> what do you mean?

>> well, clearly that there is indications from their own people that the secret service isn't a place that is really desirable. its ranks very low on the locations of federal employees on their yearly climate survey. so clearly something is wrong there. if there is a failure communication failure, this, these many failures at which occurred at the incident at the site and pennsylvania clearly something needs to change and the director clearly had a very, very poor outing in front of congress and her resignation or her resignation was definitely needed. and it was absolutely called for one of the few instances of true bipartisanship and unity, both sides calling for that to happen. also, the washington post's reporting tonight, the secret service is encouraging the trump campaign to stop holding outdoor rallies is that enough of a course correction? will that ultimately lead to safer results? is that the only

criteria only time will really tell if moving indoors is the right correction. >> i believe that with the the looming threat or the threat from foreign governments such as iran against former president trump. i think it's only prudent to move it indoors until a new idea of what occurred in pennsylvania is resolved. that investigation is completed to find out what failures occurred and correct of course of action. so everything is done from here on out. eventually, i think we will get back to outdoor rallies. but i think an indoor move is the right choice. >> i wonder if that will extend to not only his candidacy and campaign, but others who were having rallies, including now the presumptive democratic nominee donald trump. tonight is saying that his team they had been requesting more manpower for security at events. listen to what he said

i know that our people have been asking for more people consistently and not getting them well, cheatle has testified that manpower is not the only resource, but will this fuel conspiracy is after he said apparently that he had been requesting that manpower and in essentially been denied so people who are in close with who are have information from the secret service. >> i've heard that too, according to obviously from from news sources like yourself, that there was a request in my understanding, is obviously the heart area which is where the stage is located that was protected by secret service. and the secondary area where the roof located would have been a secondary or that was not covered by magnetometers, but normally, counter-surveillance units by us secret service, who are trained to look for such suspicious activity, such as this individual and would know

how to act were not present that as the director stated, they were resources that were provided which indicates to me that they resource that out to local and state law enforcement. sure extremely capable officers. and i've worked with many of them. but why wasn't there counter-surveillance by us secret service, which would have eased to communication flow back from the command post that is my question. appear to be some kind of a perfect storm. one of the things he said was i know that our people have been asking for more people consistently and not getting them. i do wonder whether there'll be a course correction from here. daniel brunner, so important to hear your perspective as we're all wondering what the communications failure is, where and how to prevent this from ever happening. again, thank you for your time my blood and i want to thank you all for watching as well. anderson cooper at 360 starts right now tonight on 360, kamalaharris all but locks up

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