that as the director stated, they were resources that were provided which indicates to me that they resource that out to local and state law enforcement. sure extremely capable officers. and i've worked with many of them. but why wasn't there counter-surveillance by us secret service, which would have eased to communication flow back from the command post that is my question. appear to be some kind of a perfect storm. one of the things he said was i know that our people have been asking for more people consistently and not getting them. i do wonder whether there'll be a course correction from here. daniel brunner, so important to hear your perspective as we're all wondering what the communications failure is, where and how to prevent this from ever happening. again, thank you for your time my blood and i want to thank you all for watching as well. anderson cooper at 360 starts right now tonight on 360, kamalaharris all but locks up the democratic nomination and

hits the road. what her first campaign day look like. and what new polling shows and how the former president has started reshaping his campaign. if there's new opponent in mind also tonight another republican lawmaker using racially loaded language to describe the vice president center of cory booker joins us to talk about it. and later as the secret service director resigns, new video emerges of the aftermath of the attempted assassination of donald trump good evening. thanks for joining us. it took barely more than, more than a day for the democratic party to make kamala harris their presumptive nominee for president. in fact, by the time the top house and senate democrats endorsed her today enough biden delegate. delegates had pledged their support to put her over the top, a process the party insiders and pundits expected might take till tomorrow r0 or perhaps all week is now done leaving vice president harris free to build on that momentum if she can, in her first day on the campaign trail in the swing state of wisconsin, speak in milwaukee. she touched on many of the themes she previewed last night campaign headquarters in delaware,

including her line about having seen donald trump's type before back when she was prosecutor. again today, she went at trump head-on and his extreme project 2025. agenda will weaken the middle-class, like we know, we got to take this serious thing. can you believe they put that thing in writing when you read it, you will see donald trump tends to cut social security and medicare he intends to give tax breaks to billionaires and big corporations and make working families foot the bill america has tried these failed economic policies before but we are not going back to that new polling done in the last two days shows her with a two percentage point lead among registered voters nationwide. that is within the polls margin of error, meaning

there's no clear leader. a top trump campaign pollster today said he expected she'll soon be gaining ground or even out ahead due to what he calls the harris honeymoon. as for his boss, the former president, he phoned into a reporters conference call today and launched several attacks, including this factually challenged one as a result of her dangerously extreme immigration policies the largest invasion in history is now taking place at our southern border. >> and it's getting worse, not better well, keeping them on, i said is getting better and not worse according to customs and border protection, the number of people entering the country illegally has fallen by 25% since the white house announced asylum restrictions early last month. >> also like them or not, they are president biden's border policies not actually kamala harris's. she's not the administration's border czar as the former president also claimed on the call today. in 2021, she was charged with leading diplomatic efforts to address the root causes of migration from central america to the u.s additionally, as we and others reported at the time

by partisan border legislation negotiated with one of the senate's most conservative members failed earlier this year at the former president's behalf yes because he wanted to deny president biden any election-year victory, particularly on immigration the former president also talked about his vice president pick on tuesdays call, saying he'd still have chosen senator j.d. vance, had he known he'd be running against vice president harris? quoting him now, i do the same pick. he's doing really well. he is really caught on how do you speaking of senator vance, this clip of him surfaced recently is getting a lot of attention today. it's from an interview he did with tucker carlson back in 2021 we are effectively run in this country via the democrats be via our corporate oligarch's by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. >> and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too. and it's just a basic facts you look, kamala harris pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children for the record, pete

buttigieg and his husband chest and now have two children. >> additionally, vice president harris has two stepchildren, donald trump has had five children with three wives, george washington had no children, but did help martha washington's to, from previous marriage. as for president biden, he had four children, sadly buried two. he'll speak tomorrow night at 8:00 from the white house about his decision to bow out of the race. cnn's eva mckend was at today's first harris rally joins us now from milwaukee is what more did the vice president have to say? >> anderson. she told voters that the path to the white house goes through wisconsin really indicating that she is going to prioritize this she also took time to thank president joe biden for what she characterized as his legacy of accomplishment but she really wants to frame this contests in very specific terms. >> her as the former prosecutor going up against former president donald trump a convicted felon, she argues that trump represents the past

and she represents the future let's listen do we want to live in a country of freedom compassion and rule of law country of chaos, fear and hate and in this campaign, i promised you, i will proudly put my record against his any day of the week but her pitch to voters wasn't only about trump. she also talked about how a defining goal of hers for a harris presidency what really be focusing on building up the middleclass anderson any more focus on who the main contenders are for the vp slot well we're learning from our colleague jeff zeleny that governor roy cooper of north carolina, and governor shapiro of pennsylvania and arizona

senator mark kelly, that they were all asked to submit personal information to the democratic lawyers involved in this vetting process for harris's future running mate. but we know that harris is considering a list of ten total names, but at least those three have been asked to submit this vital information that they of course, will comb through before she ultimately makes her decision. >> again, thanks so much perspective now from democratic strategist james carville, also former trump white house communications director alyssa farah griffin, and robby mook, who served as campaign manager for hillary clinton. james yoo warned against democrats anointing vice president harris as the nominee. you talked about wanting to see town halls all over the country with multiple candidates as clearly they not going to happen. are you okay with what's happening hundred percent. >> and people have coalesced around a vice president and i'm sure with her at up to 100% two weeks ago might have been a different environment.

is power wilson said in politics, week is a year it was two years ago. but i am totally comfortable with delegates already coalesce around her to donors that there i think she's doing very well and i'm glad to be 100% behind alyssa how do you think j.d. vance is doing? do you think prison trump is rethinking that? >> i didn't particularly when because the sheer volume of his old statements against donald trump are quite low fiercest never trumpers have used against him. there's also as you played earlier, him saying things that if you play in a suburban swing district of female voters is just radioactive in a general election, but he's also not really catching steam on the campaign trail as first but i mean, statements he made fell flat. >> there was kind of tepid applause throughout and i think you're seeing oftentimes when people go from a people liked

his mountain i didn't even get it to be honest. >> i was like i'm clearly not based enough, but you see if you take some from mega junior senator is putting them on the national stage. they often fall flat and now you have a much more competitive race than even just just a week ago. and j.d vance does not add votes, is just doubling down on maga rubbing it in a new york times op-ed published tonight, hillary clinton rights. i know a thing or two about how hard it can be for a strong women candidates to fight through the sexism and double-standards american politics i've been called a witch, a nasty woman and much worse, i was even burned in effigy. what lessons from 2016 do you think harris should apply to this campaign? >> yeah. >> look, i think female candidates do face certain barriers and among those is i think they're judged more harshly for appearing too ambitious are striving too much. and i think they've played this incredibly while you saw she came out right out the gate that i want to earn this nomination. they proved they had the delta he gets to

get the nomination at which point then she pivoted to being the presumptive nominee and i think we're going to hear all kinds of sexist tropes. you just heard that the end of the cat lady comments coming from j.d. vance. and so those will come. but i think the most important hurdle from her coming out the gate was to show that this she she wasn't just trying to grab this. she earned it. it's hers it's stunning how quickly she assembled the political coalition to get this nomination. and i think democrats are very united going into this james, who do you think she should pick his running but i don't mean to sound so political. >> and it's trying a ton of people. and i have, i have every confidence that she's going to make a wise choice. remain deaf seven people i could think of a way you couldn't go wrong what, any of them so i think they have little suspense in this and

they dominate and that dominate in the press. now and trump qatar know said that he's been dominated but i think robbie are a little bit a small number around. we're enough to note it scroll turn and she'll have some rough days ahead, but for right now, what a ride in robbie, just in terms of what issues she may be most vulnerable on. i mean, obviously immigration is something that's already that she's being going to be attacked for. there's also this, this dei hire a line that's being used a lot by right-wing talkers on radio and television. a couple of congressmen are now using it as well. >> well. it's obviously absurd. i mean, she she is just as accomplished is any vice president. and again, i can't emphasize enough. and i think james mentioned this earlier.

we weren't sure how this was going to go going into this. we weren't sure how quickly the party would coalesce. there were certainly people demanding that there be a process and she locked this up instantly and that wasn't that wasn't by twisting arms. i mean, the outpouring that we're seeing on social media has been incredible. and one of the things i worried about was would the online space be a safe space for kamala harris, the safe space for people to express their support for her. and it overwhelmingly he has, so i'm confident she can push through these barriers that will be there. it is harder for candidates of color, it is harder for women candidates, but i'm really impressed with what i'm seeing right now. this for a campaign manager, this was a perfect 48 hours alyssa, where do you think she is most vulnerable? >> the attack points are pretty clear right now. there's obviously going to be more developed. >> i think the trump campaign is going to frame her as too left for a general election. they're going to hit her on border security and say that the biden administration drag their feet for some time.

they're going to pull up the fact that during 2020, she said that rioters should be bailed out in the summer of protests and tried to frame her as somebody who's maybe soft on i'm protecting law enforcement, but she's ready for these attacks. this the reason she she's probably the best candidate democrats could put up as we know exactly what the playbook is. and i've said this before and i'll say it again. trump is going to overplay his hand. he is going to lean too hard into sexist misogynistic and racist attacks. and it's going to turn off the very voters you need to win this election swing voters do not want to hear the name calling. they do not want to hear that an attorney general senator, and vice president as a dei hire who didn't earn her way to being on the ticket. >> there's this reuters ipsos poll shows no clear leader in the trump-harris matchup. there's this campaign pollster for trump predicting that harris is going to, there's the honeymoon for harris do you think that indicates i mean, do you think he's just trying to get ahead of setting there's some expectation setting here, but i do think there's a bump

here of just people wanted someone other than the two candidates that were on the ticket and somebody who's taking the case to donald trump and she is very effectively in the last 72 hours first laid out the case. he's got the leyen. she's the prosecutor going against the perpetrator like the tagline is there, the social media and digital operation has been great. this has been faster rapid response than we've seen from the biden campaign this entire election, even though it's a lot of the same team. so i do think she's gonna get a bump. it's going to be sustaining it for the next three months. we'll, the world has dumped on her and that's where i think a vp who could sustain her and other democratic surrogates are going to be a priority robbie, when do you think of vp needs to get selected or noun? >> i mean, would you wait till the actual convention? >> yes normally, you do wait till the weekend before i could see it happening earlier. >> hear the question is the vetting, right? there's just a practical issue of getting throughout betting and when i went through this process with hillary, the number one thing when you're picking a vice president, is it someone you think is qualified? is it someone you want serving with you? due to be a partner with

you in being president. and that takes a little time to establish. so i think they'd be foolish to rush it. but if they have someone ready to get out the door, i do it. i keep the momentum going, keep owning the news cycle. as jen said earlier, these have been some really good days. there's going to be really hard days, but that's a special moment. and if you could have that between now and the convention, that would be great. >> ravid, let me just ask you, just in terms of vetting i mean, do i'm not going to ask for any details, but like do you find stuff on potential people that didn't i mean, if most if they've won, if they're a governor or there are a member or senator haven't they already been vetted? >> well, and she's looking at people like that who definitely have been vetted and certainly from a talent standpoint and a record stand-point, have been vetted, but yeah. look, you occasionally find some things, but the names that you mentioned, any of these folks would be would be taught here and i think it's traditional to have your list of ten. my guess is they're looking at very shortlist, three or four

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yesterday, former trump economic advisor larry kudlow said something similar on fox telling senator tommy tuberville, quote, her whole history is dei joining us now is new jersey democratic senator cory booker center, i assume you're not surprised by this line of attack but it is right out of the gate. >> this is what they're using. what do you make of it? >> well their calls for unity and bringing our country together clearly didn't last long, took them 48 hours to get where they are right now. but more than that, i think it's a strategy that's going to backfire. the majority of americans, women know what this feels like. to do. everything you can to get your credentials, college education, advanced degrees. and no matter what you do, people say you're not enough or that you don't belong in that room and so here's kamala harris, one of the most accomplished people ever to run for president united states. she was district attorney, elected twice statewide. encounter california, which is bigger than most countries in the world she became a senator

served here nobili and ably and distinguished herself. she was a vice president for four years and helped usher in some of the greatest legislative achievements have any kind of white house and now there are people that aren't worthy to sit at the same table with her really tried to demean and degrade her. well, to me, we don't need leadership in this country anymore. that demeans and degrades other americans, republican, democratic, democrat, or independent, have your policy disagreements? but to attack people in such a heinous personal way shows more about who you are than who you're talking about. >> the fact that i mean, this is the first line of attack. what does that tell you about how nasty potentially this is going to get? >> well, again, it just exposes these republican leaders who really don't, i don't think represent the heart of the country republican base, but it shows really who these people are. and if this is the way they're going to try to inspire and lead this country. and this is really who donald

trump is. it reflects this kind of trumpism, which is about taking anybody even fellow republicans, look at what donald trump has done to every woman that has ever challenged him from women in the media during presidential debates. to people like nikki haley. he constantly demeans and degrades and belittles and puts people down. it's time that we as a nation turn this page once and for all start to support leaders from any party that inspire us the look to the future that call us to are higher angels of our nature, not to the low quicksand of political demonization. it's enough is enough. we need in our country from both parties people that are willing to reach across the aisle find common ground and build from there. >> i want to ask you about something about senator j.d. vance. this is what he said about vice president harris at his first official solo campaign rally yesterday she talks about the history of this country, not with appreciation, but with condemnation and look,

of course, every country, just like every family, certainly mine has its pockmarks, right? not everything is perfect. it's never going to be but you, if you want to lead this country, you should feel grateful for it. you should feel a sense of gratitude and i never hear that gratitude come through when i listened to kamala harris i'm, not? >> even sure what that means, but i how do you interpret it? and everyone is nodding their head in the background like they know exactly what he's talking about. like there's some that she has said. >> i mean, does it make sense to you doesn't make sense to me is it's absurd first of all, i know kamala harris, i've served with calmer harris. who's our friend she's in many ways as a sole sister, somebody that i have gotten to know really well, if you want to know about a value that she has is a sense of gratitude. this sense of thanks knowing that this is the country that could have a woman there with a black father, an indian immigrant mother, that this is a nation that could elevate someone like this to the vice presidency and soon to the president she loves

this nation incredibly. and unlike j.d. vance, it seems to want to support things like book banning and obscuring or disney ifying our history. she thinks we are great not because we had no challenges or no racism or sexism or anti-immigrant, anti italian, anti-irish history, anti-union history. now we are great because we overcame that, that every generation knuckle down with grit and overcame our imperfections and made this a more perfect union. the story of america is great because of the challenges we have overcome she believes in this country the way that john lewis believed in this country. though he's still talked about him getting beat down on the edmund pettus bridge. she believes in this country because fannie lou hamer agree, believed in this country participate in the political process and said proudly, ani, a woman to shouldn't i be include. she believes in this nation the way martin luther king believed in this nation. man that was jailed and in prison, but still was willing to dream of better days for

everybody. that's who kamala harris is that's kind of leadership america needs enough of these people that want to divide us against one another. let's bring us together now, once and for all and i tell you, she reminds me of his great poem by maya angelou you may try to write me down in history with your bitter, twisted lies. you may try to trot be in the very dirt, but still i rise. what watch kamel arise. she's going to rise to these challenges. this negativity, this kind of city mr. demonization, and show america that we, all of us can overcome this kind of politics. >> is that her cory booker thank you for your time thank you. >> thank you so much for having me joining us now from the left and right, respectfully, cnn political commentators ashley allison, and scott jennings. >> ashley what do you i mean, when you hear dei hire some of these other things being said about kamala harris at this stage in the race. what does that tell you i wish i could

say i was surprised, but i'm not i think most people, particularly people of color, particularly women of color are used to sometimes being put into a box as though me having this platform right now is if i haven't worked very hard to deserve it and earn it and to have a voice here. >> i'm not saying that the majority of people think that way, but there are people in this country clearly, some elected officials who are saying that i guess i would just talk to americans and not those individuals those who are calling her a dei and say we have an opportunity in this moment to be better than that, to just as much as you deserve to live and thrive in this country. so do i. and that is what the vice president represents. now, you don't have to agree with her policy and how we get to a point to live and thrive. but you should see her our humanity, you should see her hard work. you should see that in your neighbors and we will see it and you, but until we have leaders that are willing to actually lead like

that, i'm worried that our country continues to just be more divided more insulting of each other and we have a moment to be better. and i just hope we do it. >> scott before she was vice president, she was a prosecutor in san francisco, the attorney general of california, us senator. is that the resume of a dei hire, whatever that means yeah. >> look, i believe kamala harris paris is qualified to be the president. she has been the vice president. she was elected official in california. she shared in the served in the united states senate. so i believe she's qualified. i do think some of this though, dates back to joe biden himself. i mean, remember when he was picking a vice president back in 2020 if he didn't promise he heavily implied publicly that his principal criteria for choosing a running mate were gender and then race, and he got a lot of pressure from democrats to do that. and i think he unfairly stuck her with that when he went through his process because she is qualified. i think the correct way for republicans to go after

this candidacy though, is is that all this aside and focus on what she said? she said crazy things during her 2020 short-lived campaign for president. her record is standing, with joe biden during an administration that has a mid-30s approval rating, you don't have to go down this road. you can say someone's qualified and you can also say, and the reason she was chosen really is because she was a super liberal who has crazy liberal well ideas that have led the country off into the ditch. that's the right way to politically attack it. >> the fact though that they are choosing to go down this route, though, and right away and j.d. vance when he says that kamala harris hasn't shown gratitude to america. i mean, not only is that a ridiculously broad allegation, but it does sort of i mean, you know, it rings of it doesn't sound good i mean, it it do you think that's a wise does that make sense to you as an argument, scott? >> know what makes sense to me

is for republicans to focus on the issues that have put trump in the lead in the first place, cost of living immigration, all the things you don't like about joe biden. she has been number two in the administration that gave it to you. everything else? is off target and maybe even out of bounds. so my advice would be stay over the target they've put trump on his way to the white house in the first place you'd get off that message and that will be a recipe for a rocky road in the fall ashley, what do you make of j.d. >> vance sort of playing this role because this, clip surface we're going back to 2020 21 of him talking to tucker carlson that let's just play that were effectively run in this country via the democrats be via our corporate oligarch's by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. >> and so they want to make the rest of the country trouble too. and it's just a basic fact you look, kamala harris, pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children i'm going. again just

sort of that's weird. i mean, it just sort of an it's kind of a surprising line of attack. i mean, like what's wrong with cats. >> i take great offense because i'm a childless dog lady. you know, i'm not a cat person actually have a strong allergy to cats, but look i love this country. i am a former public school, educator of our non-profits. my family loves this country. my sister loves this country. my friends who are childless love this country. that is not a qualification on whether or not you are a leader or whether or not you have a love for this country it's absurd for j.d. vance to make that argument. but again, i'm not surprised i think though what we're seeing i agree with scott has gotten agree with on this. let's talk about policy. but when people go to identifying folks, they used to be blameless of being the party of identity politics. but it seems like the republicans are doing a lot of that right now where they're using race and gender and

whether or not you have a child or not as a disqualifying factor. again, we can be better than that. but when people do that senator booker just quoted one poem for my angelou. i'll quote another quote from her, is that when people show you who they are believe you. so there are a lot of black, brown, white, childless people out there. and so when he's talking about kamala harris, he's also talking about you. i'm not sure that's how you build a winning coalition ashley allison, scott jennings. >> thanks so much coming up more attacks on vice president or citizenship raised the misinformation and smear are spreading online about her donie o'sullivan has more on that next what does a robot know about love it takes a human to translate that leap in our hearts into something we can see and hold etsy grit, god's glory. you've got some

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what have you been seeing out there? >> anderson? and look, a lot of this is what you'd expect. this, it runs the gamut a lot of folks pushing this are trying to hide their racism more senators and other folks are just being very blatant about it. so it's the stuff like photoshopped images, videos, and new birther conspiracy theory that she is in some way nasa eligible to be president of the united states, which is false a lot of it's literally they're doing the birthers. >> oh, yeah. it's really at this, but i mean, it's quite interesting to see because it's you can see they're just trying everything out there and seeing what sticks also as well play into this idea that this was a coup that she organized a coup or that she is working for the clintons are the obamas because in this kind of right-wing online sphere they are the most evil if you can tie harris them, then it makes life a bit easier. >> i want to show you one photoshopped image. we don't know what it was. ai photoshopped or otherwise, but it's pretty crude. this is the

sort of thing going around the original image there. obviously harris with the second gentleman, and there you can see epstein falsely put into an image. so there's all that they're seeing because there are actual pictures of donald trump with jeffrey epstein, who he did hang out with socially. >> yet and the irony is lost on people listening there in a way i felt but you don't look something like that. you see in this context, it's obviously stupid, but you've even seen yourself on unreported on q anon and things where we're all these things in the future in months later can get grabbed and put together, presented in a kind of people believe this stuff they do they do seem totally normal. believe this done, they do. there's also conspiracy theories both on the right and the left about the assassination attempt on former president trump. >> yeah the amount of people on the left who initially, i mean, literally hours looking at stuff online didn't believe it was real. >> it was incredible to me and

still don't believe they believe they're still hanging on to that. that it was staged and actually last week at the rnc, we were at an anti-trump protest and we spoke to some democratic voters and here's what they had to say. >> i think it is a terrible comments on the country state right now that anyone with these anywhere that it's appropriate to shoot at any political candidate? but i couldn't help but wonder because we've been lied to over and over by this man. the way he came up and raised his fist and active like it was nothing he wants to make it into something big you're saying well, maybe it was a state's assassination attempt that i hate that that's what i'm doing i hate it that's where i have bought. and i wonder why i've gone there and what really frightens me in scares me and makes me angry suddenly now, i'm in on a conspiracy theory you know, understand it was really fascinating to speak to those ladies because as you can see there, mary man was her name and wisconsin she knows that

what they're engaging in, what they're speaking about is irrational. >> run. yes. >> she's being honest with us. she was like, look, this is what i still believe because i cannot believe this man and i think a really paints a pretty bleak picture. i think of where we are in this country right now where people really don't know what to believe yeah, it is fascinating i mean, yeah, it's also i mean, this is just the beginning. this is absolutely. >> and look look, obviously any, you know, we're still talking about the jfk assassination many years later. so look, i should point out that on the rice, lots of folks including alex jones who still out there on twitter, despite all the lawsuits and everything else almost 3 million followers. he's saying it was the deep state that tried to kill trump and importantly, pushing this idea that the deep state are going to continue to try again. but just one final 0.1 thing i would mention is that last week we were at the rnc as well as they're being cnn and the other big global news organizations. there is

just this whole world now of the likes of where steve bannon broadcasts mike lindell, the my pillow guy has its own media empire. and these are all organizations that are pushing propaganda, that are pushing lies at the same time as news organizations are letting go journalists world donie, donie o'sullivan, thanks so much coming up. the secret service director response to critics demanding she stepped down, plus new revelations about the security lapses in the attempted assassination of the former president jury hearing today saturday on the, whole story, political violence has always threatened our democracy after the attempt on trump's life. where does america goes from here? the whole story with anderson cooper, political violence, america as bloody history, saturday at 8:00 on cnn. nothing dems my light like a migraine with nortech ott. i found relief. >> the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent all-in-one so those with

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cheatle, resigned today, saying the agency fell short. >> her words ten days ago when a gunman was able to place himself on a rooftop, aim and nearly assassinate the former president's by an extensive security presence. she'd rejected by bipartisan calls for her resignation as of monday the services deputy director will now lead the embattled agency, turning now to the investigation though of the actual security breakdown pennsylvania state police commissioner testified today before homeland security committee, the two local law enforcement officers were inside a building with vantage points looking points overlooking, i should say, the roof where the gunman and would soon fire, but they left to look for a suspicious individual that turned turned out to be him he also said the length of time between when a police officer encountered the gunman on that roof and when the shots were fired at the former president, was much longer than needed. once indicated my father first shots rang out at 18:11 hours the hoisting up of the officer

occurred probably no more again i'm going to give you a time, but i want to just put it to understand that specific sequence of events. i would say at most two-and-a-half to three minutes before that first shot wrong? it was minutes. it was a very short period of time even for his ability, not seconds. i would say minutes that's remarkable for more on what we heard today. i'm joined by senior justice correspondent evan perez and former secret service agent jonathan wackrow evan, i mean, the idea that it was minutes from a police officer hoisting up, seeing a guy with a gun, and then not engaging with them and then that guy is still being able to be up there as incredible i understand you have new video just released from the scene of the shooting. >> yeah. anderson, we just got this video that was released by senator chuck grassley and one of the things that we learned in this new video is you're seeing the aftermath of the shooting and you see secret service agent of there talking

to some of the local officers who were on the scene. and you can see the body of the gunman. you can see the blood trailing on the on the roof there. and you also see a shot there of the building nearby, which is what the pennsylvania police commissioner there was talking about that's where these officers first spotted this man and took video or took took a pictures rather that they sent out to police they saw him on a bicycle, they saw a bag and considered him to be suspicious. and that's the reason why they sent out that video. now, senator grassley has sent a letter to the homeland security department, enter the secret service asking for more information. one of the things you also see in this video that was released by the beaver county emergency management emergency services unit what one of the things you hear is someone saying they want access to a drone to take a look at the scene. and again, this is in the aftermath of the

shooting of the shooting. now, anderson you remember that the secret service director said that they did not use a drone to provide security for the rally and we do know that the shooter did use a drone to essentially look at the scene that he was about to attack later that day. >> and evan, there were more details about the aftermath of the shooting that came out during that hearing right. >> and so the christopher parris, the pennsylvania state police commissioner, who testified about, by the way, anderson, they invited other public officials to testify and he is the only one that showed up to provide that testimony. one of the things he did, correct. himself there when he refers to those two to three minutes, he's saying the amount of time that the shooter was on that roof he later clarified that there was only seconds from the time that one officer takes takes a look at him and the time that the shots were actually fired, but it really does raise the question.

going back to what you what you played earlier in the segment here. the police, who were supposed to be in that building and might have had a view you of him getting on that on that roof could have made a difference, could have made a difference in obviously him getting access to it and having enough time to fire those shots. that is going to be a big part of this investigation going forward. >> so i just want to be clear because i misunderstood or the way he phrased it, maybe he phrased it wrong. it is not it was not minutes between the police officer seeing the guy and dropping down and the shots. it was seconds, but it was that the shooter was on the roof itself that's correct. >> and he wasn't seen there because those officers who did have a view of that of that roof had left to try to go find him. >> johnson and what stands out to you about this video and also the details that have come out now well, listen, i think the details are really important here.

>> and what this is, what we really wanted to start hearing yesterday during the testimony by the director of the secret service but what you're really starting to see, especially when you're talking about the two officers that left their posts to go try to address a threat when i hear that to me, it signals that the roles and responsibility of the local law enforcement there specific posts was not clearly understood stood prior to this event ever taking place. again, if those two officers were there providing the overwatch and surveillance of those rooftops as they should have been, they would have identified this individual right away and most likely would have been able to stop this type of attack prior to happening to me. it's the roles and responsibilities during the advanced were not articulated properly by the secret service with their local law enforcement partners. again, law enforcement was probably doing the right thing. they had the right intent to try to go find in address a threat. however, these posts are

carefully curated to overwatch critical locations. this was a critical location so by the fact that these officers left in left that area of vulnerable, we see the tragic consequences that it caused. >> we've been looking wackrow evan perez. thank you. appreciate it. next, kamala harris's husband, second gentleman, doug emhoff, on the campaign trail for her today and firing back at donald trump as well. take a look at his enduring relationship with harris my father chose me to succeed him he held to his deficient until we have the budget the dragon the war will he fold and many will die house of the dragon streaming exclusively on max well, i have

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is cnn next week, kamala harris's husband will headline to fundraisers for her presidential campaign. second gentleman, doug emhoff, could become the first ever first gentlemen if his wife wounds the election, he's already busy helping the campaign, even firing back today at her republic and opponent with more on that and their relationship. here's our randi kaye that's all he's got. that was second gentleman, doug emhoff today in response to questions about former president donald trump's attacks on his wife, vice president kamala harris emhoff, promise that team harris will prosecute the case against donald trump and his lies has gaslighting his during covid dereliction of duty inciting an insurrection. and all those other things. >> his loyalty unmistakable as it has been for more than a decade. the 59-year-old emhoff proudly plays the role of plus one at harris his side when she

was california's attorney general, us senator, and later the country's first female vice president. >> i'm married to the first woman ever to hold this role. so first of all, as second gentleman, that means i'm her husband first and be supportive husband. >> so she can do her job as vice president united states emhoff for his part, has been rallying voters on two key issues, reproductive rights an antisemitism emhoff is the first jewish spouse of any vice president or president for that matter. a role he has taken very seriously since early in the administration, part of the work that we had done prior to october 7 was the first ever national strategy to combat antisemitism. all of us must be against this, must be against anti-semitism. i will not remain silent and i'm proud to be jewish i'm proud to live openly as a jew and i'm not afraid. we cannot live in fear. we refuse to be afraid on

reproductive rights. he's worked to engage both women and men around the country. >> this is a issue of fairness to women. women are dying emhoff and harris first met on a blind date in 2013. >> i left this ridiculous voicemail which she has saved and plays back to me on an anniversary every year, i thought i never hear from her again, but but it was just it was adorable. >> we did go on that first day love at first sight. i we were literally talking about our future at the, by the end of that first date and that next morning, i'm sending her an email. here are my availabilities for the next six months and years later 11 years later here we are emhoff and harris married in 2014. >> they're blended family includes two adult children from emhoff's marriage to his first wife for harris, the title of stepmom just didn't

fit their word for me as mom ola and so they call me mom ella in 2019 during the campaign emhoff sprang to his feet to help protect his wife from an animal rights activist who had rushed the stage. he later tweeted this we're good. i love kamala harris and would do anything for her. emhoff was born in brooklyn, new york and raised in new jersey he has a law degree from the university of southern california and since moving to dc, has taught at georgetown law school. now with his wife unofficially at the top of the ticket. doug emhoff could become the country's inaugural first gentleman. and anderson emhoff schedule could get a whole lot busier. we understand that he will be headlining two fundraisers next week. he will actually be stepping in for first lady jill biden and headlining those one is july 29. that is set to include a conversation with david letterman that will take place in vineyard haven. message the truce, it's the ote