up training for a successor to someday take control of north korea's growing clear arsenal kim jong un is actually the third son of the late kim jong-il. he was reportedly chosen as the successor on his eighth birthday, but the outside world didn't know about it until many years later, erin this very public reveal of kim ju-ae, just a year-and-a-half ago, maybe the beginning experts say they have a personality cult for kim's daughter, his health. one reason experts believe this might be happening now, but many people now know her that the crucial challenges for her to build credibility, especially with the military air and that is crucial to maintaining the kim family's power. >> incredible, especially when you consider, i know it's a long process, but to pick a female and she is a girl. she's a child. alright. thank you very much and thanks to all of you for joining us. ac360 starts now tonight on 316 the

harris campaign doubles down on calling their opponents weird and j.d vance claims his childless cat ladies comments are being taken out of context while the latest the campaign trail. also tonight breaking news, the democratic veepstakes and other big name says no thanks. and new reporting on just how long donald trump's would-be assassin was on law enforcement's radar before he pulled the trigger? good evening. thanks for joining us. this is starting out to be another big week for kamala harris and donald trump. she trying to build on last week's momentum. he figuring out how to refocus his campaign on her and not joe biden. both are in a race to define or be defined in the case of vice president harris and the democrats, that definition is in a word weird. we're talking about donald trump and j.d. vance. here's pennsylvania governor and potential running mate, josh shapiro, using that word about the former president at a joint appearance this evening with michigan's governor gretchen whitmer. >> the left, you see this god like when he's on stage, he

like kind of meanders over, can't really walk well and he goes over to the flag and he like hugs the flag them i loved the flag, but it's a weird thing. he does right well, a focus on the word weird began with another possible vp pick minnesota governor tim walz and has become the chosen democratic definition of donald trump and j.d. >> vance my observation on this, have you ever seen the guy laugh that seems very weird to me that a, that an adult can go through 6.5 years of being in the public eye if he has laughed, it's at someone not with someone that that is weird behavior. and i don't think you call it anything else every day, vance, it comes out vance has done some the more extreme, more weird, more erratic vance seems to be more erratic and more extreme than president trump. >> it demonstrates, that shows us exactly what he believes then by selecting a j.d. vance, who is quite you know, as the

campaign said, weird, but also pretty pretty unprepared very scary in many respects. >> i mean, on the other side, they're just weird i mean, they really are the things that they stand for. >> well, it's already raising questions that word including from new york times columnist thomas friedman, who weighed in today under the headline, democrats could regret calling trump and his supporters weird, quoting him now, i cannot think of a silly or more playground, more foolish and counterproductive political tanf for democrats to seize on. then calling trump and his supporters weird as for trump and his running mate here is the sample of their attack lines from over the weekend she was a bum three weeks ago. >> she was a bum a failed vice president, and a failed administration with millions of people crossing and she was the borders are now we have a new candidate to defeat the most incompetent, unpopular, and far-left vice president in

american history, the people are going to learn her record. they're going to learn that she's a radical what they're going to learn that she's basically san francisco liberal who wants to take sanford cisco policies to the entire country also over the weekend, senator vance, who still seems to be trying to explain why he ever started talking about childless cat ladies here he is on fox last night shortly after host trey gowdy in his lead and said, quote, the american people are forgiving if we ask senator vance did not ask if you look at what the left is done. they have radically taken this out of context and in fact aggressively lied about what i've said given them on us doesn't seem it's being taken out of context. >> they've his remarks have been widely played here on cnn and elsewhere, showing both his use of the phrase, childless cat ladies and the overall notion he seems to be trying to convey were effectively run in this country via the democrats, via our corporate oligarch's by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. and so they want

to make the rest of the country miserable too. it's just a basic fact you look at kamala harris pete buttigieg, aoc, the entire future of the democrats is controlled by people without children. >> let's give votes to all children in this country. >> but let's give control over those votes to the parents of those children when you go to the polls in this country as a parent you should have more power. you should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic, than people who don't have kids. people will say j.d. >> vance in context. and here's the former president on fox defending him just moments ago what can you say to our viewers tonight to reassure them that this was an excellent pick? well, first of all, he's got tremendous support and he really does among a certain group of people, people that like families he made a

statement having to do with families joining us. >> now cnn political commentators, bakari sellers, david urban, ashley allison, also former hillary clinton campaign manager, robby mook. so robby, what do you make of this weird attack line that democrats have been focusing on for j.d vance and trump well, i think a lot of what donald trump does and a lot of what j.d. vance has been saying is indeed weird and been weird for some time. i think part of the challenge that vance has been having is he's not really for anything at all what he said years ago about trump was that he thought he was a nazi it's, were his words, that's what he called him. and all of a sudden now he wants to be his vice president. and so i think vance just doesn't have a strong bet of credibility to fall back on. all that. i would say and i know you mentioned the friedman piece here is the two things can be true at the same time, there were republicans can be weird. j.d. vance can be full of it but also as democrats, we have to go out and say what

we're for. and so i don't think this is an either or here we really need to get out and make our case. i'm confident that the harris campaign is going to do that in the coming days. >> according, do you think these comments from vance mean does it turn off independents according to new abc poll? harris is favourability rating among independent voters at 44%, which is up from only 28% a week ago. meanwhile, vance's overall favorability didn't change last week, although his unfavorability rating went up yeah. >> i mean, i think what most people look at, just smart people, not, not anybody who's on any particular aisle or anyone who watches nightly news consistently, but most people would simply say nikki haley was right there. like that was the choice for donald trump to make a nikki haley lee or glenn youngkin. but that would only be right. >> and that's not what donald trump did. >> donald trump went out and just doubled down on who donald trump is and so when we going

through this, it's more than just in robbie's absolutely correct. it's more than a simple fact of j.d. vance being weird are the things that he says being weird. in fact, i kind of want to move away from that. it's more than the history of kamala harris. i want to move away from that. but it's what democrats can do for you. and the funny part about it is, as i hear david with this kind of cackle in the background, the funny part about that is that, you know, republicans call names, republicans called names consistently they've called her dumb. they've called her a dei hire. they called her a bum. they caught her unqualified. they called her everything but a child of god, and they're going to continue to do that. they're going to go willie horton. they're going to say that a woman, a black a woman shouldn't be in this office. they're going to go to the underbelly of the united states of america. and i'm not saying when they go low, we go high because when they go low, we go to hell. that's what we say in south carolina. but when they go low, we are going to punch him in the mouth, but we're going to remind people what a

future looks like under donald trump versus what a future looks like on a kamala harris, david, the washington post reporting tonight that while speaking at a private fundraiser over the weekend, vance referred to president biden withdrawing from the race as quote, a political sucker punch. reportedly admitted that harris does not have the same baggage of joe biden wonder what you make of those remarks. and i mean do you think they are worried about running against do you think they've found the kind of the message that they are going to stick with now running against harris, yet no so let me just address couple of things. so at robbie and bakari both said, okay, i think calling half the united states weird knock, not a winner. i think tom friedman exactly correct when robbie says and bakari said, let's let's talk about the record. bakari, listen, i'm cool with the t-shirt, just like you said, let's have the strategy hey, let's have the strategy. let's, let's focus on kamala harris's record. she ran for president before and ran miserably ran miserably her own

campaign staff said, listen, we quit. this is the worst run campaign ever. i've been involved in three campaigns are state director of three campaigns. no one's i've never been treated, seen staff treated worse than any campaign she quit the editor of the sacramento bee, who worked for kamala harris previously said, if you can't run a campaign, how do you expect to run the country when you look at her words, we don't have to guess what she's going to run on. we can look at her own words and hurt positions are incredibly extreme. i agree with bakari. listen, i don't want to attack kamala harris. is individuate. let's look at the bait about commonly, but you are point exactly. that's telling me body that's my point exactly the fact is, the fact is her name is kamila, but if you call a war who was okay, i'm saying i dei wrong according me. >> know. okay. >> first of all, let's not

talk over each other because nobody bakari, i'm talking about and you know, shame on you, bakari, because you know me better than that. so shame on you. i'm saying, let's talk about her. let's talk about her record, which she calls about when she asked her mandatory gun buyback next says, we're going to have met her. when you says, i'm going to do away with private insurance, which she says people in pennsylvania, i'm banned fracking. okay. my plan for you is that let you transition to get another job. those are her words. we got to focus on those things. not who she is. okay. bakari, i do want to go to you because you're pointing out the mispronouncing the name which maybe it was a slip from david, but is something that everybody is not going to need do we're going to text after this absolutely loved david urban. >> so that's neither here nor there. but my point is simply this. when you call a woman who is this accomplished a dei hire, right? when you utilize those slurs? when you call her a bum. and i love thomas friedman's just saying that half the country is offended. my point to you, david, is don't you believe that women

in this country are equally offended because there are women right now who don't get an opportunity, who to choose what they want to do, what their body, there are women right now in this case i don't wait you got to get back to do a back-and-forth between you guys. >> so mccarthy and i actually want to go to briefly and athletes definitely more suited to this, then both david and exactly what i would just say, that their women in this country who have different names, who get mispronounced, often. and all i'm trying to do is level set and have a level of awe respectful. kamala harris, the same level of spec for kamala harris that you and i have for each other, davids. so that's my only point ashley what do you make of this conversation? well. look, i think that i do hear some things. i think the cat lady thing was weird. i'm sorry, i don't understand it. and maybe j.d. vance should have taken the opportunity to walk that back, but that's not what politicians do. fine. okay? but

i do think it's important that we actually have a conversation about who kamala harris is, who she can be as the president xi might not have had a successful presidential run, but she has definitely been a great senators. he's definitely been a great attorney general and she's been a great vice president. what i just also want to say to the conversation we're just having about saying her name. i look, i have a name. people call me alice and all the time, it's one of my biggest pet peeves. take the time and no, my name. if you don't want to understand who i am as a person, at least know my under be able to pronounce my name correctly or say my name correctly. that is my identity. that's how i am called. so let's, let's take the time. the woman is the second highest office let's learn her name. >> the other thing is that for women out there, look whether you're childless, whether you have a family, some of the things that the republicans, donald trump included are saying it's not just offensive to half the population, which are women. >> its offensive two men horror in relation with women. and so to think that we shouldn't have

bodily autonomy, that we shouldn't be able to be at the top of the ticket that you can call us names like unqualified of bump. it probably is not the first time women who had been treated like this, but as come less says, i won't be the i might not be the first. i might be the first, but i won't be the last or we're going to pick up the conversation. >> i was quick break next. how is kamala harris viewed in the swing states a political strategist? sarah longwell joins us with what swing-state voters in her focus groups are saying about harris for president also tied cnn investigates how a right-wing group for the history of peddling debunked voter fraud theories is using an app to challenge hundreds of thousands of voter registrations and cast doubt on the november election if you're living with hiv imagine being good to go without daily hiv pills good to go off the grid good to go non-stop with kevin uva. there's no pausing for daley hiv pills for ultra undetectable cabinet. >> the only complete long-acting hiv treatment you can get every other month.

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reduce urges to you're in nick, find it at walmart. are these retailers hybrid solar, alvarez at the white house and this is cnn there's breaking news in the question of whether there's going to be a second presidential debate. now that half the first debate is no longer running just moments ago on fox, the foreign president said, quote, i'll probably end up debating vice president harris adding quote, i think it should take place before the votes are cast joining us now, sarah longwell, political strategist, publisher of the bulwark and co-founder of defending democracy together, whose projects include the republican accountability project and republican voters against trump. so sorry, you've been talking to undecided swing state voters in your focus groups about vice president harris moving the top of the

ticket what are you hearing so broadly, there's been an impression about vice president harris for a long time that people don't know what she does. >> they don't see her that much. and so to the extent that she's had a negative impression prior to this, it really stems not from people knowing a lot of powder, but feeling like they just don't see her in, just don't know what she's all about, which means that in this moment, she's given the chance to re-introduce herself. 2 millions of american voters and can really sort of remake her image, which is why there is a race on to define kamala harris and the trump administration wants to make sure that swing-state voters here, that she is a progressive from san francisco, that's what they want to drill into people's heads. but kamala harris is pivoting to the middle. she is today she came out and said that she does not believe in a ban on fracking does not believe in medicare for all. and a lot of these issues are actually she talked about funding the border these, are

not things or positions that she took back when she was running for president in 2020 and a democratic primary but i think one can argue that we see this from a lot of politicians, right? people pivot to the center in general elections, mitt romney certainly did it when he kind of remade himself as a moderate governor for massachusetts to much more conservative presidential candidate, donald trump j.d. vance has done to say trump did it i mean, look, this is i think part of it. >> if j.d. vance can go from saying that donald trump is america's hitler to being his vice presidential candidate. i think there's some room for kamala harris to pivot to the center but i do think she understands the assignments. she understands who she is trying to win over. and when you listen to these voters, they're very clear on the issues that move them and that they're interested in hearing. and so when i've done focus groups this week with swing voters, they say, hey, make me your pitch. i'm ready to hear what kamala harris is talking about because furlough how did

these swimmers they do not like trump. they have disliked trump now for a while, many of them voted, voted against him not for joe biden, but against him in 2020, and then by default for joe biden. but they didn't want to vote for joe biden this time around because they felt like he was too old and so they're given camila are really hard. first look, what are their the way the choppers house? >> yeah what are their top issues and also how to third party candidates play well. >> so number one, top issue was always inflation in the economy the second issue is almost always immigration. and so that there's a clear reason i think why she's talking about funding the border right now because that it's something that is going to be important to these sort of in the blue wall states, immigration is still very much an issue that they are concerned about but she's got to have a message on the economy. she's got to find a way to say, hey, look, we've had the best economic recovery of any industrialized country, but also talk to those voters who don't just want to hear good news because they're still

getting hit really hard at the grocery store at the gas pump and so i think that's where biden was struggling as a messenger. and so that's that's i think where she's got to go right now. sorry. was there a second part of your question just a third-party candidates oh, the third-party candidates, right. just i mean, look, i think when there was when you had double well, haters is your main persuadable group. third parties factored in a lot. she's got to eat into that margins by giving people something, not just to vote against, but to vote for a cr longwell, it's great talking to you. thank you. back with the panel, ashley, let me start with you, vice for his narrows. i mean, she has a limited amount of time to define herself and what her presidency would look like. david urban was talking about and we've heard from other republicans, obviously, they are going to be using the material of what she ran with when she was initially running for president back in 2020, what what do you think she needs to do? i mean, this week? >> i think she should do exactly what she's still doing,

getting on the road activating every surrogate look. two years ago, people didn't think the democratic party had the been event. now we see vice president harris on the top of the ticket. most likely the top of the ticket. all these governors, senators out they're stumping for what the democratic message she doesn't have to carry this by herself, use the coalition around her that really represents who, who and what america is to tell the story. i also think i agree with sarah inflation and immigration are important issues, but voters are no longer single issue. voters, voters understand abortion is an economic no issue. voters understand democracy is at stake, and most elections, since 2022, 2022, 2023 have proven that point. >> so talk to the whole person that is going to go to the ballot and not just speak to what to be afraid of, but what opportunities she can provide in a harris presidency robby, i mean, it is interesting, obviously trump-vance, republicans want to use all the

more progressive positions and she ran with the last time which it was actually running in the democratic primary obviously you have trump who's changed his positions and certainly j.d. vance, how much of a liability is it for company? while harris this time well, you just pointed out the thing here, which is i mean j.d. >> vance is probably the worst possible example of someone who has flip-flopped. and so i think any, any nuances in her position that she's changing are going to pale in comparison to his i also think it's important to point out to go back to a point ashley made in terms of the opportunities that harris has. this is a chance to turn a new page. she's her own person. this is going to be a brand new administration, a historic administration and so i think she has a chance to take all the best parts of what president biden has done but then set out on her own path as well. and so i think distinguishing herself as her own person is gonna be really important in this, and she's

got a vp nominee and then a convention which are great opportunities to really put that out there in a big way so that i think that's that's going to be critical for her, david, you were the first verse i heard talking about kamala harris's position on fracking and pennsylvania. i don't know. like right after her shoe it was clear she was going to be the nominee. she now seems to be changing that position there's certainly a wise move, i guess in pennsylvania, do you think voters will penalize her for positions that she changes yes. >> so anderson, look, what robbie says, nuanced, it's not nuanced. it's a complete one ad, right? you can't say i'm for the green new deal. i oppose fracking. i will banned fracking people will be, you can say, this guy's americans, hitler and now he's the greatest thing. so anderson. >> yeah, no, but anderson where he said i was wrong, i made a mistake and here's why and he

explained it went until the vice president comes out and says, i was wrong. i was wrong about fracking i was wrong about the green new deal. i was wrong about gun buyback, mandatory gun buybacks. i was wrong about single-payer health care. there's a long list of things she's gonna have to say she was wrong about. and i still want to hear the answer, anderson, andrew ross sorkin asked her a question at dealbook and new york times deal book interview, where he said madam vice president who or to become aware that the president was somehow incapacitated. would you tell the american people? and she said, sure, i'd tell the american people. it's my ethical obligation to tell the american people. so what was she just not in the loop on that, was she not in the loop that joe biden was kind of out of it for a long time. now that we're reading about it, and so many publications or she just a part of complicit in covering up for the former president. that's a question i'd like to hear answer as well. so but these aren't nuanced positions. these are very, very big policy positions, which she now throwing on the scrap heap

and starting over cari, i want to give you the final word no, i think what my good friend david is showing is that republicans really don't know how to deal with kamala harris. and i think that whether or not she chooses josh shapiro, mark kelly whether or not she chooses any of the other individuals we will see a campaign that is reset itself she came out and said she was against an all out ban on fracking. i think most people in pennsylvania, we'll hear that i will leave the pennsylvania politics today that but what i will say is that bob casey is up in pennsylvania by double-digits right now, kamala harris his favorability in pennsylvania is greater than that of donald trump. but there's a long way ago. she still has an underdog in one of the things to ashley's point. and ashely's been probably the most consistently right person on this panel, including you, even anderson. i'll share that. >> but she has said that kamala harris, we don't have to focus on the history of who kamala harris is we don't have to talk about that. >> we don't have to talk about these specific things. we have

to tell people what she's going to do for them and the difference in why people should vote for kamala harris and not against donald trump? i don't think the republicans are prepared for it because if they were, they wouldn't have waited eight days to figure out how to deal with there instill david it is throwing things against the wall hoping they work, but i owe him a beer, so we'll see but you're asking people to divorce themselves from reality. >> there will have more voted for trump, will have more on the high-stakes speech stays. we got contender north carolina democratic governor roy cooper has removed himself from being considered. will also take a look at some of those who are still in the running and speak to someone who's been in their shoes before the write that with priceline vip family, you can unlock deals five times faster. >> you don't even have to be an actual family the dad on the day physically, it's clear that i'm the dad okay. so which dad is paying you're knock-knock. number one, broke her here for the number one

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all of us when we head to the polls in november, we know that there is a person who will stand shoulder to shoulder with us to fight for our freedoms. >> and that is kamala harris let's wake up in november and say the words madam president the most important lesson you taught me on those doors is the importance of being for the people standing up for the people over the power. you know, who else stands up for the people every day kamala harris stands up for the people every day for what voters think can do abc ipsos poll finds that most people still don't have much of a view the 66% have no opinion of arizona senator mark kelly, 70% say the same about governor shapiro and 87% have no opinion about minnesota governor tim walz joins me now is cnn senior data reporter has an opinion about everything so i mean, if most adults nationally have no

opinion of his possible running mates how did they fare in their home states? you ever feel like you're going crazy, anderson, i feel like i've been going crazy over the past few days with all the talk about the vice president's because the fact is, you look at these home states, right? and you look at how these guys did in their last election compared to the parson baseline, how joe biden did back in 2020 and look at this. what do you see? you see josh shapiro. did so much better in his last election than joe biden. look at that by 14 points, mark kelly did pretty good as well, five points, of course, he was running for federal office. so that's i think a little bit of a different baseline. then governor, but a lot of folks been talking about tim walz, the fact is tim walz may be folks that he may be good on the trail, but when it came to the minnesota voters, who knew him best, he only did slightly better better than joe biden did in 2020. so as you sort of focus this back out, you say to yourself, okay, if i want somebody who actually does best with the voters who know them best, josh shapiro, the clearwater in a way winter, and mark kelly not too far from paul bagala was on the other night. he said he doesn't buy the whole idea of selecting a vice presidential nominee based

on thinking in that, that person can help you win, the state. is there evidence that a vp candidate can actually help the president carry their state? okay. so we can go into the political science right here. we can run some models. we can look at past elections and yes, there is, it is small, mr. begala's right? it is small, but if you look over time, there does in fact seem to be some impact. we're talking about half a, point to two points on average, sometimes there's a fact of course, when you're talking about average won't necessarily be there. but when we're talking about on average, yes, there is that impact more than that? it's really only impact that we know that's measurable. the only thing that a vice president can do, you think about these elections that we've had in this country, anderson, they are fought by the closest the margins, right? pennsylvania last time around was about a point. michigan was a little less than three points. wisconsin was a little bit less than a point. the fact that elections are decided by the smallest of margin. so even a change of just half a point to two points could make all the difference in the world and could help somebody carry a state. and in terms of home states with potential vice

presidential nominees pennsylvania, arizona probably be the most important absolutely right. if you were essentially look and say, okay, is there once state that is going to determine who wins this election, pennsylvania is the one runaway winner, 30% of the time, it determines who ends up winning this potential 2024 election. and you combine that with the fact that shapira is so well liked in that say, a 61 favorable rating. the fact that he did so well in 2022, i feel like again, i'm going crazy because folks don't seem to recognize he's to clear one away winner. if you're going to choose somebody, you actually want to help you win this election. all right, harry enten, thank you very much for joining me as virginia democratic senator tim kaine at 20:16, vice presidential nominee for us under hillary clinton senator good to have you on what do you make you public always on the other night, he said he doesn't buy this whole notion of presidential candidates selecting a vp pick based on their stayed thinking that they can win the state, that there should be a somebody who can obviously lead the country, but also somebody who they like and

get along with and have reported with and want to campaign with what do you think the criteria is yeah. >> anderson, i think you've got to get over a bunch of hurdles i think compelling bio helping in a state that's a key state somebody who has a proven track record who will immediately hit the campaign trail running, especially in the short campaign like this but, but the dems have many people who will get over those hurdles. and so then the question is is common law has got to have somebody that she feels comfortable with can be in the room with her one-on-one giver, brutally candid advice, even to say, madam president, i think you're going the wrong direction but then when the when you're out in the public and the klieg lights are on will be completely supportive of you. and that is such a personal chemistry question that was why hillary and i bonded. she knew i'd be candid with her behind closed doors. i had been a

lieutenant governor in a supporting role to a great governor, mark warner. and i shown that ai could be candid behind closed doors and then supportive in public. and that's what she's going to be looking for. the good news is on the democratic side, we've got an embarrassment of riches many people can be very, very good in that role. and she's got to make a decision that is ultimately about personal chemistry. >> i understand you've spoken with several people who are currently being vetted. i would ask you who you spoke to. i assume you probably wouldn't say, but what kind of advice did you give them? >> well, i gave him advice like this. don't do a pressure campaign, don't get folks to lean in because you want vice president harris to pick the person that will most help her win? not pick the person that is flooding or emails and voice messages just with a lobbying campaign stand out go out and speak for the campaign. speak for camila and you can

emphasize your own bonafidies, but it shouldn't be a pressure campaign. and i think those who can very ambitious politicians and we all are not appear overly ambitious, have an inside track. >> hear a lot about the vetting, obviously, i mean, pretty much everybody has been vetted, has already been vetted. there were senator there there were governor is the vetting a lot different that you had to go through? yes, it is. >> yes. >> it is an intent in a very, very intense i went through it with senator obama in 08 and then secretary clinton 2016. it's extremely intense. the difference in those years are now, is it those were two month events. this is a two week that and what does that mean? it's going to be equally searching, but the universe shrinks so in obama away, clinton 16, it was 30 than 20 than 15105 to one. but this is like six or seven.

and then you get down to the choice by august 7, which is the date that the vice president she wants to make the pick. it is very, very intense. anything in your life that's ever happened will likely be public, and it is super intense, but it's an honor to be asked because if you are the one chosen, you have the ability to be the last person in the room to give advice to a president to help them be a great president for our great country. >> senator kaine, thank you for your time glad to do it up next. a cnn investigation into how a right-wing group that has long peddled, debunked voter fraud theories, has challenged hundreds of thousands of voter registrations ahead of the november election using pretty simple app this is the home for the world's most essential stories in journalism. and now, cnn has been recognized with the most me no the nations of any guns organization this year

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of people who shouldn't be voting. >> i was, i was pretty off. >> how did moss a legally registered american voter in the state of texas and, uh, you university administrator end up having his voter registration challenged because of the efforts of one group, hi there. >> i'm katherine angle wreck with true the vote. >> true the vote a right-wing organization fueled by the maga movement, all of a sudden in certain states, they found all these votes i totally rigged election. >> and the lies that the 2020 election was stolen with illegal ballots welcome to the iv three project you have arrived in the nick of time. this is a groups online training session for iv three, a user-friendly app pushed by true the vote recruiting and training thousands of private citizens on how to submit challenges to local election offices. >> we've got to report what we can and get it as accurate as we can. and it is making an enormous impact, adding up to about 700,000 challenges to voters across the country so

far, documents obtained by cnn and so many of them, use the exact same language daniel moss's challenge came from someone he doesn't even know. >> i want to say it his nancy. >> nancy lives in the same county and single-handedly sent in thousands of challenges this year. we asked around for hurting. >> i'm trying to talk to nancy, but she did not come to the door. nancy sends me something every day. >> bring phillips is that in county's elections administrator as november looms, it's not just nancy setting and challenges now, there have been that is where i've received a couple of thousand, names. >> isn't it overwhelming to get thousands of names every day? >> it can be i've had to look each of those voters up one-by-one, roughly 75 80% of the names that gave me. we have already dealt with and the rest of the names. >> well you would catch them

anyway. they're safeguards built into the whole system for any issue you can dream. meaning any of these questionable voters, like the people who have moved away, the system would eventually catch them anyway, more than a dozen election official cnn spoke with say they're getting the same challenges, many from iv three users when there's already a system in place that prevents fraud but that's not stopping the leader from claiming here in the space of elections you know, the fraud has been institutionalized through the vote is based in texas first, we went to try and find true the votes office location, the one it lists on its website, as well as federal tax forms. but we didn't find a brick-and-mortar office instead, we ended up here at a post office with a bunch of po boxes next, we came here to this strip mall that the state of texas lists as the her an address for true the vote but

looks like it's a business that biles income taxes it's a function in office. >> but no truth up. these mass voter challenges are definitely a page out of the election denial playbook, there is a bigger picture impact on our democracy, which is that weakening trust in elections and creating an environment where you can cast out or question the results of an election after the fact back in denton county, daniel moss will be allowed to vote elections administrator frank phillips found the challenge was wrong for the people who are making all these endless challenges. he's chosen patients and education and their mind. >> they think you've got thousands of people on your roles that shouldn't be there, which turned out not to be the case. they come in with a preconceived notion. my job is to explain reality can joins us

now so we saw that you never actually found the truth vote office. did you ever managed to reach anyone there? >> oh, we did reach them electronically and they did send us a statement and it says about his app, quote, it has developed a specialized processing he's technologies and methodologies that have been affirmed by experts and courts, but they wouldn't specify who those experts and courts are, nor were they answer specific questions from cnn. we did speak with election administrators across this country who say a lot of the challenges coming from this app or just repetitive is sometimes, as you saw in our story, anderson flat-out wrong despite all this, the 2020 election and all of the information and misinformation surrounding it has been a cash windfall for true the vote and the last three years of publicly available records to the vote has pulled in some 12 million as despite having as he saw, no offices and only a handful of staff, anderson

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arrived, and that never happened. so i think that that was probably a pivotal point where i started thinking things were wrong because that never happened. and we had no communication with the secret service let cnn's evan perez joins us. >> now is former secret service agent jonathan wackrow so evan, senator chuck grassley's office that what the new timeline revealing law enforcement first became aware of the shooter over 90 minutes before he opened fire. can you walk us through that that's right. >> anderson and key a key part of this is also what communication there was between those local law enforcement officers. some of whom talked to abc and the secret service, which is of course, in charges it security for the former president. but one of the first things that happens is it for 20, 6:00 p.m. a. beaver county sniper who is finishing his shift, walks out and he sees the gunman for the first time and he sees him as at a picnic table. he notices like a couple of other law enforcement officers later, they noticed

that he is not trying to get into the rally. that was the first thing that set him off. and so he averts beaver county and some of the other law enforcement people about his presence five-thirty 8:00 p.m. the sniper sends a photos of the shooter again, to other law enforcement officials but it's not clear how quickly that gets to the secret service of 5:45 p.m. you see another law enforcement person sending sniper this sending photos of crooks again, to other law enforcement people. the big question that will be pursued, i think anderson, after all of this is whether the local law enforcement people were communicating and how quickly that information was getting to the secret service and whether there should have been more unified way for information to flow, especially because again, for 90 minutes they knew he was there and that he was officials. >> jonathan, what stands out to you about this well, what

stands out to me is when we look at this timeline, it's really disturbing because what we're seeing now are multiple points of intervention that potentially could have occurred by local law enforcement or the secret service, had there been brought aware? >> fairness of this individual right into evan's point? the communication we're just don't know how that communication flow went from the local esu team the state police, and the secret service, to make everybody aware of one anomalous behavior by somebody in to when this individual did raise two two, a threat level, how a unified approach was going to be applied to address that threat and evan, earlier you ask, like, is this the case know they're always should be a unified common operating communications platform at any type of large scale security events. why that wasn't applied, and why that wasn't in place for this specific event is important to understand from the secret service.

>> jonathan, just let me ask you. i mean, isn't any big event like this, isn't normal that there would be communications of like, look, there's a weird guy over there or here's a picture of a guy who looks kind of weird. i mean, is that standard that's standard in the secret service is well versed in how to address those types of individuals that are exhibiting anomalous behavior. >> they have protective intelligence teams. they work with local law enforcement, may be local law enforcement knows who this individual is and maybe there are no facts after, but this is very, very common practice that the secret service does engage when, but the whole point here, anderson, is for the agents and officers to work in a unified, coordinated manner to address these this anomalous behavior, to ensure that it's not a threat. and now when we look at a timeline, you know, that that has multiple we'll points that they could have intervened in, didn't that's really disturbing and evan did the documents released by the senator's office have anything about a contingency plan for an

active shooter situation yes, they do and that's one of the things that you watch. they have a plan for looking out for drones this is something that the shooter dead. he was flying a drone about two hours before the former president took the stage we also know that one of the things that they were preparing for what was alone, active shooter. this is exactly what crooks was and you don't one of the things you see in the plan, you see that. do you see them trying to lay out what the plans were for dealing with this contingency, anderson and it appears all of that fell apart? >> no jonathan wackrow, appreciate it. >> evan perez as well. thanks so much. that's it for us. the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts. now see you tomorrow breaking news from the source tonight, a political sucker punch, jd vance's candid admission and i pride fundraiser about facing kamala harris instead of joe biden in 2024, listen for herself to hi