i'll see that the venezuelan government acknowledge that basically biden-harris was trying to relax things that failed it failed miserably in its blown up in the faces of venezuelans and people throughout the western hemisphere. all right? >> and at last word, we've had over 60 years of embargo with cuba. we have had 25 years now of venezuela with oboe chavez and maduro. it's up to those people in those countries to rise up courageously, that people have been as well as dead. so yesterday and i think we need to stand in solidarity with them and not making a political point wait for us, alright, everyone, we'll see how that turns out it's an interesting point and really important what's going on in venezuela. thank you so much here at the table for joining us. and thank you for watching newsnight state of the race. laura coates live starts, right? yeah while the trump world finds itself on defense

as the kamala harris universe goes on the offensive. >> but how long will this surge laugh? that's tonight on laura coates live well, the harris campaigns, sugar high might be giving the trump campaign a bit of a stomach ache, at least for now, the man who once said he was excited to debate, now sending a little bit of a different tune just tonight alone, trump stopped short of committing to a debate saying he probably end up debating her. >> he also had to defend his own vp pick senator j.d. vance over his comments that childless women don't have as much of a stake as mothers i think they understand it. >> know i think they understand it. the democrats are good at spinning things differently from what they were. all he said is he, he does like me he likes family isn't always said

trump defending his running mate is not exactly where you want to be. >> 99 days before the election, particularly if you are on the top of that ticket at the polls, they do show an incredibly tight race and the trump campaign is ready to throw the kitchen sink, maybe even though all house and harris hitting her on everything from the border surge in inflation during her time as the vice president to what trump calls her radical record as a prosecutor in fact, trump tonight plane, he's happy. he's running against her no, i have i would rather run against her than him i think she's easier than he is well, it looks like he's running mate j.d. >> vance may not have gotten that same messaging memo. listen to what he had to say. we talked to private donors in just private last week all of us were a little bit of a political sucker punch the bad news is the kamala harris does not have the same baggage as job biden think does whatever

we might say, calm, there's a lot younger and kamala harris is obviously not struggling in the same ways that joe biden well, certainly harris has not struggling when it comes to enthusiasm. tonight tens of thousands of self-proclaimed white dudes were harris joined a zoom call to rally support for her. they raised about 3 million bucks in it even featured a cameo from the dude himself. >> jeff bridges count is just so certainly are our girl, you know, i can see her being present so excited a woman president man, how exciting? >> if only he was in the role black, the big lebowski north carolina, though, the governor there, roy cooper, he was also on that call. and remember he actually was on the vp shortlist and i do mean was until tonight when cnn learned that he took himself out of the running a source says that he had concerns about going

through the vetting process at the age of 67? >> well, joining me now, one of cooper is fellow state executives, the democratic governor of colorado, jared polis, governor. >> thank you so much for joining. i want to begin right there because you and i have previously had this conversation. you said that you like the idea of a governor for her running mate. what do you make of the decision for governor cooper to take himself out of consideration? >> well, i haven't had a chance to talk to roy since he made that decision, but i'm sure he went through a lot of soul searching and made an important decision. there's a lot to learn from different kinds of experience, whether it's experiencing the business sector, with its experienced governors position, united states senate, i think kamala harris is going to really surround herself, not just with biden he's president or frankly with a cabinet. it really represents the best of america are you possibly going to surround that ticket? >> would you be an asset to it well, there's a lot to learn from the colorado model, right? >> we took a state that was a net, you a tide state neck and

neck i won reelection with a 20 point margin. we've cut the income tax three times in colorado. we cut property taxes and kept it. we've really focused on really growing our economy and an abundance agenda that lifts all boats. we've removed barriers to housing to help reduce housing prices and make our state more affordable. and i think the joe biden's leading to some of those same policies. i'm confident kamala harris this will do in terms of removing barriers to building apartments and new starter homes. i'm excited. i'm excited about continuing the tax cuts to make sure that the middle-class americans don't pay any more in taxes and providing additional reductions in tariffs to help grow trade opportunities for grown in america and made in america products. >> governor, have you been asked to we're running mate, are you being vetted well, again, i don't know exactly what the process is. >> i want to share with them and i have shared with them that what we've done here in colorado we've taken a state that was neck and neck to a 20

point democratic margin. in my reelect. but you've got to earn it every day. it's not about what you have done a lot of my advice to the vice president is don't focus on the accomplishments of the last four years. they're great. we can talk about them for hours, but the voters want to know what you're going to do for them tomorrow. and as long as she runs an agenda, protecting on expanding our freedoms versus donald trump, rolling them back on, reducing costs for everyday americans versus donald trump's ten percent tariff, increasing the cost of everyday items by 10% in causing a recession with retaliatory terrorists, it'll destroy manufacturing in our country versus kamala harris, expanding opportunities for made in america products overseas. that's how you win. and i think she has a lot of camila momentum so far, but 99 days ago, we're going to keep it up 99 sort days are very long days. >> and as janet jackson went said to put a finer point and what you've just said, i know you used to do nice things for me, but what have you done for me lately? that'll be the question for many of the voters because part of the republican good message seems to be that

voters don't exactly know. they say what harris stands for. and in fact, trump tonight, governor suggested that the more progressive kamala harris from 2020 and her campaign is still that same harris today. even though she's now the vice president. other critics say that her policy positions are not crystal so clear. does she need to do more work to define herself and the eyes of the electorate now that she's the top of that ticket first of all, you know, everybody is going to be playing these games of what people said ten years ago, five years ago, j.d. >> vance was critical of donald trump, has anybody and said he didn't have the character to lead and was a failure. he said a lot of terrorists the whole thing about donald trump and areas as his running mate, a look kamala harris has a lot of experience. she was a prosecutor. she's tough as nails, but criminals behind bars, frankly, she got attacked from the left by being too tough on criminals. that's something that will serve her well as she moves into the chief executive office of course, she read on certain things when she ran for president. she's now now albin vice president. she's worked alongside joe biden. she's

grown, she's developed a lot of international experience overseas as our vice president and domestic experienced here and she's a chance to carve out her own agenda to protect our freedoms, and to grow our economy, to make america an even better place for everybody at the same time though, obviously it's a campaign and the messaging will have to also tell voters why she believes that he should not vote for the trump-vance ticket there seems to have been a messaging shift over just the last week which democrats calling that trump-vance ticket, the word of the day and the week seems to be well weird. listen some of what he is running mate are saying well, it's just plain weird thanks, guys were just weird. >> that's i mean, it's like weird one he does right. >> i mean, on the other side, they're just weird no matter what kind of weird stuff they keep saying, what was weird was him joking about racism today? and then talk about diet mountain dew i mean, there's a lot of words one could choose. i wonder if weird as, as

impactful to the calls to suggest that trump is an existential threat to democracy. why is this the new vehicle? >> look all's fair in love and politics existential threat to democracy, convicted felon weird. they're all fair. but again, i think we have to keep the focus on what the guy would do that would hurt the quality of life of the average american, right? when he talks about raising terrorists and percent, it's, you know, i'm a parent of a 12-year-old, a ten-year-old, were doing back-to-school clothing dropping every single thing we by 98% of clothing imported would cost 10% more under donald trump, it would cause a recession that would devastate american manufacturing destroy agriculture and foreign jobs with grown in american produce with retaliatory tariffs. so i think we need a president is going to focus on expanding markets for grown and made in america. products reduce costs it's rather than increase costs like donald trump's agenda would do whatever names people call one another and obviously in politics, people are going to do that. i like to bring it back to what the policies would mean for everyday american families sitting around the kitchen

table and american families are going to be better off under a kamala harris presidency, but under a second donald trump presidency, we know but what happened last time, record, unemployment inflation started to grow. joe biden has started to tame inflation. kamala harris will continue. that was strong monetary policy expanding trade opportunities, and making sure that we can continue all the middle-class tax cuts. >> well, governor jared polis, our kids are about the same age, so as back-to-school shopping continues, i'll see you at target next time. thank you so much for joining see you there well in that white dudes for harris called all minnesota governor and potential vp candidate tim walz, making the case for continued harris momentum how often 100 days to get to change the trajectory of the world, how often 100 days do you get to do something that's going to impact generations to come and hoffman the world. >> do you make that wake up afterwards and know that a black woman kicked his and sent him on the road that might have

to be a t-shirt for something with me now, cnn political commentator, republican strategist shermichael singleton and democratic strategist and former senior adviser for bernie sanders is presidential campaigns chuck rocha, glad to have you both here right now. >> let me begin with you. check 99 days left. that just sounds crazy to me. 99 days left to governor walz find the right message yes. >> i think he did not. in nine days left the vp only has one job if you want to know the wrong way to do it, watch j.d vance, because the only job of vice president has do no harm. go stand over there, be quiet look nice, sharp when you spoke to show up and be quiet if the vice president shown up in press clips are doing the wrong thing. tim walz is trying to make a voice for himself. i said this earlier today. tim walz was a high school teacher and he was a hostile school football coach now, for anybody who has 30 seconds to guess, you can tell i play a little high school football, a lot of us reminisce about that every day that's the kind of person you want to be. the vice

president, somebody, somebody can relate with, with real language and some real skills, you missed your albani moment and tell the world how great you were at football. nolan kids stay in texas, don't get me started easy let's the resume i mean, i got to use your michael next because of course, i'm sure you had your own glory days as well, but let me ask you about this. the washington post reporting the advanced told donors that this was a sucker political sucker punch to have to harris. now there that's quite the word choice to me that suggests there's a vulnerability. how do you see it? >> every look it suggests that the vice presidential running mate is objectively aware that vibe as president harris is not going to be a cake walk the way president biden was. she's not older. she's younger. she has obviously energized black woman, a cohort of black men, younger voters, $200 million in a week, 170,000 volunteers i'm a strategist objectively speaking, when i look at metrics like that, i'm saying to myself, we have to bring our a game if we're going to compete against this person as having someone on the campaign

that recognizes this, not just a strategist, but one of the running mates. i think that's a very good thing. >> well, so what is the game letter you would assign to the childless cat comment that was made by j.d. vance. but more importantly, the fact that donald trump has to defend, in fact, listen to we had to say tonight, even address this moment he made a statement having to do with families that doesn't mean that people that are a member of a big and beautiful family with 400 children around and everything else. >> it doesn't mean that a person doesn't have he's not against anything. but he he loves family. it's very important to him. he grew up in a very interesting family situation and he feels family as good and i don't think there's anything wrong in saying that is that enough no. it's just not there's only a small little group shermichael knows this. >> any politician anybody who's run campaigns for 30 seconds knows that there's just a small little group of people

who actually going to make the decisions on who's going to be the president. and a lot of them are women a lot of them are single women. and just so happens, a lot of them are single women who have cats. that's why this thing gets at the root of what he shouldn't be doing. he can talk about or trade policies like chumaka ndozi could talk about crop, but don't talk about single women with cats. that's the last thing you want to be doing right now. >> i'm not a fan of cats but look, but look it could be seeing would news with whatever, but when i feel you about the idea of the whole cat thing, but let me say it tonight. >> my colleague and friend erin burnett she spoke to sophia nelson, who is a former yale law school classmate. if senator jd but the full vetting process are not. and sofia was extruded that vance was extremely critical of trump in the at emails, the 80 emails that they actually exchanged

over the course of their friendship. but now vance is can tell you different person today, listen to what she had to say what i've seen is a chameleon, someone who is able to change their positions and their values depending on what will a mask them? >> political power and wealth and i think that's really unfortunate because it reflects a lack of integrity so sophia is point there that many were wondering as to why there was the 180 degree shift. >> now, at the rnc, the entire narrative was an epiphany. he will have the right to change if their minds and we should not vilify and condemn that for that. but as more and more comments are coming out, not just the anecdotes are isolated incidents this if you have a point over, look, i think strategically speaking, his friendship with sophia, i would say as a net benefit if he doesn't run away from it sophia represents a percent of the country that i would probably argue most people

would say republicans have not been open to and here is a vice presidential running mate on the republican side with i think a ten year friendship with sophia, if i remember correctly, i think that's a positive thing. i wouldn't run away from it i would say this is a new version, a new iteration of the republican party that's open to all americans, which they should be. >> that's putting form over substance i mean, they had a friendship versus what was actually said in the correspondence. that's the focus. >> and everybody is trying to figure out who this guy is, who is jd. and every time something else happens, whether it's cat, ladies, whether it's sofia's comments, like you get to learn more about jd. people are trying to learn more about vice president harris as well. we've got to your 0.99 days left people forget. we're going to start voting in this country and 65 days people get there. it's happening now, this whole thing about momentum, it's happening now in the more we learn, the more we see, more folks are going to be with u.s president. >> important points 65 days away, 99 days. shermichael. chuck, thank you both so much. pay up next, a sitting republican mayor from arizona who says that he is choosing

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of georgia, who speaks out quite frequently about the former president. and one thing in common with those three will none are currently in office. so it's exceptionally rare. are sitting republicans who do speak out and even more rare sitting republicans who speak out and men go on to endorse a democrat. but tonight we have that for you here. the republican mayor of mesa, arizona, john giles, with a piece out today endorsing kamala harris and he's here with me now, mayor giles. welcome you're really perhaps putting yourself out there with this endorsement. i do wonder what has compelled you to do so you know, it was with a lot of thought you know, certainly not anxious. i am a republican and i enjoy endorsing republicans. so this was a very considered the step to take and i also as

a mayor, i love to not get involved in partisan politics at all when i can avoid it, mayors like to focus on solving problems and on on city issues and on been in the middle of between the 20 yard lines on all the things that there are consensus on. so this was not something that i was excited to do or are necessarily looking to do, but occasionally there are issues and questions that were presented with in life that are just too compelling to be silent. and i knew that if i had to sleep at night and that i couldn't do that. well, if i didn't speak out and express my disappointment in the republican nominee, have there been some who have expressed his appointment in your decision to come forward and endorsed kamala harris? >> absolutely. >> yeah. and that's that's to be expected. but what what i didn't necessarily expect was

the tremendous response that we got today from people in my party and in my community, expressing support for the op-ed that i published let's talk about the why, why you are supporting kamala harris and rejecting donald trump, who is a republican, what is the reason that you find her to be the preference and the preferred candidate over even trump well, i think that there's a minimum bar for an elected officials in this country and having to do with character, having to do with commitment to the rule of law and the constitution. and i don't feel like mr. trump gets over that, that low bar and at the same time, i do think that the vice president is a good alternative. that the contrast between the two of them is stark and president trump does not compare well there are many issues that again, have been a republican. i differ with the vice president on but what to

me is the compelling reason to support her is that i don't question that at the top of her agenda. is what is in the best interest of the united states i honestly can't say that. i think that's the case with mr. trump your words speak volumes and i know you've written and talked about election denialism as perhaps one reason to reject them and you know, trump made comments over the weekend saying, christians won't have to vote. >> again, if he gets back in the white house. here he is by the way, tonight trying to clean up those remarks. mare, listen and i think everybody understood it. i didn't know there was an hour. >> well, because it's the constant refrain. i mean, he's after they have done all the things that we've talked about tolerable, all of the russia, russia, russia, and all the things we and dumped their guy at 52 years is dump him the side so they do all that and then they say, well know you can't vote for him because he's literally never going to leave office they're actually still saying it's just

unbelievable well, what you will leave office after ford here, this one away and i did last time. >> do you think that he would leave office the end of his term if he is elected, given your concerns about election denialism and his comments about voting today? >> no, i don't. as i was writing this op-ed that ran in there is on republic this morning. i remember at one point i had a phrase in the op-ed where i said, if donald trump selected, i fear this might be the last free and fair election of my lifetime, and i struck it out because i thought, you know what that's a little hyperbolic. that's that's more than needs to be said. and then he makes this statement saying that the onetime elected and i'm enthroned, we won't need elections any longer. so sometimes donald trump's says the quiet part out loud and we have to believe him. and i think this is one of those occasions that we got some real insight into what his priorities are there are many who will say that the

conversation itself is hyperbolic and then you hear statements that he's made and you have to wonder which came first the chicken or the egg. in these conversations one of harris is potential contenders for her running mate happens to come from your state. mark kelly, the senator. would you want to see him in that vp spot absolutely i've had the privilege of working with senator kelly he he's the real john glenn, right. >> stuff person. and he would he would make an excellent vice president's. so i haven't spoken to him about this, but i do know him well, he's very talented he he does a deep dive into everything he would this would not be the type of vice president. you just send to funerals that he's a very capable person. i could see him being in the secretary of defense and the vice president at the same time because he's he's very, very caring people well, that would be too

daunting task that one, let's see, maybe you can do either or if in fact she chooses him in the end, mayor giles, nice to speak with you. >> thank you for joining me. >> thank you for the invitation up next, president biden makes a bold move against unpopular court. >> how his proposals to reform the supreme in ct are enraging the right and maybe even rallying the left even if they have very little chance of passing this is the home for the world's most essential stories in journalism and now, cnn has been recognized with the most emmy nominations of any guns the session this year cnn, here's why you should switch from google to duckduckgo on all your devices. >> duckduckgo comes with a built-in search engine like google, but it's private and doesn't spy on your searches. and duckduckgo lets you browse like chrome but it blocks cookies and creepy ads that follow you around from google

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term limit that would help ensure the country would not have wanted has now an extreme court as the proud of an attack on a confirmation process that's weaponized are those seeking to carry out an extreme agenda for decades to come but just a few years ago, then presidential candidate biden, well, he felt pretty differently no, no, no, no, no there there is a question about whether or not it's a lifetime appointment. >> i'm not going to attempt to change that at all. >> well, that, was, before, the. election, right. but joining me now, former assistant us attorney kim wehle, she's the author of the new column, biden's last project, fix the supreme court in desperate need of reform. kim. so good to see you. i do wonder, is this too little too late or as my dad always said, a day late and $1 short while the immunity system decision, laura changed everything. i mean, the court really did almost amend the constitution

and turned it into a monarchy when it comes to committing crimes with the massive power our of the office. so this is really an amendment to go back to where we were prior to the court manufacturing something that doesn't exist in the constitution. and remember, these are purported textualists that are supposed to read the plain language. it's not in there and they actually read some things out of the constitution. i think it's really, really important according to protect democracy this way. >> and yet your statement i think would give ammunition to some to suggest it was the opinion that made people angry to say, okay, now you can't see on the court. what do you say to those who will say no, you can't impose these changes because you only get decision, but because it's the right thing for the court. >> well, i've been teaching constitutional law for a long time and it's getting harder and harder to teach basic principles of constitutional law because this court is departing from precedent to parting from the plain language of the constitution, to parting from basic grounds for taking cases. they're reaching out

into culture wars, into politics and really it's it's very difficult to be intellectually honest to students about what the court is doing. it's a very, very different court than it was 3510 years ago. >> you make a great point because one of the things why the laws on the books we were always taught in law school is about deterrence because you knew what the law of the land was. it would change in shape behaviors and no one can expect something different. but now bianna precedent, it's hard to predict those issues as well. but what do you make of these changes would term limits, correct. that behavior? would it changed the public opinion which is at a really an all time low for this court, i should add. i mean, we're talking talking in the mid teens at this point, which used to be a very storied institution. >> well, it's very unusual to have this lifetime appointment for the highest courts other democracies don't, don't have that. and so it's very anti-democratic entity. there's no accountability

there, there forever. so the term limit idea with president's doing to appointments every two years would be more reflective of the country, more reflective of the people, and these people would be more accountable. they wouldn't really be kings and queens on there for life appointed very young with arbitrary numbers depending on which president will brock obama got to. donald trump got three and obama was there twice as long. so there are other ways of addressing the supreme court. this isn't the only one, but this is the one one president biden has advanced. and i think something needs to be done and it's urgent. i mean, speaker johnson has called this essentially doa dead on arrival. >> so in terms of legislation, what could be done to do this differently? >> well legislatively, you could expand the size of the court. it's been anywhere from five to ten ten. that is within congress's authority congress could decide to rotate other judges through the supreme court. and it doesn't say in the constitution it has to be supreme court justices, those

other federal judges are there for life the same way, the supreme court is. there are other things that congress could do. a code of ethics that's enforceable, ensuring that these justices don't have these egregious conflicts of interest, don't have political flags on their frontlines. things like that. most other pretty much every other federal actor in the system has checks and balances. that's why we don't have a market monarchy anymore, laura and the supreme court is a little drunk with its own power. i think the majority would this cut both ways to try to silence the craig's? i would say this might be good for democrats today, but then down the road, horrible. >> well, the idea is it's up to the voters, right? so elections matter. and if every president gets to rotate two justices and what these 18 year term, if that's the particular thing that goes through, then the idea is voters can decide on president's that they want to have that authority. so if it's a republican for many terms and yeah, you're going to

have many justices that are republican or democrat. but right now, it's really, really stacked against frankly the populace where under mitch mcconnell, there was no filibuster for the last three justices. so really the, the democrats and the united states had no buy-in for the last three justices that are now wiping out constitutional rights, getting rid of affirmative action in education, greenlighting racial gerrymandering, and now again, rewriting this foundational principle that no one's above the law and every, every branch gets their papers graded by the there are two branches, not if you're committing crimes using official power. now, in the oval office a lot of food for thought. we'll see how the congress acts now that it's been said and what happens in the last of this term, kim wehle, always great to talk to you. thank you so much. >> well ahead the newly revealed text messages that suggests law enforcement saw the trump shooter more than 90 minutes before his attack plus

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they being the event command center are asking for a direction of travel someone else responds, quote, not sure. he was up against the building if i had to guess towards the back away from the event. >> now we learn more about what law enforce was actually doing before the attack, determining the shooter's motive appears as elusive as ever the fbi revealing its conducted more than 450 interviews to try and figure out what he may have been thinking and why today we got some insight on what's been discovered. >> the fbi says that he was a loner and so circle was limited to his immediate family he used encrypted email accounts and aliases to buy firearms, and he searched for information on power plants mass shooting events in improvised explosive devices, and the attempted assassination of slovakia's prime minister joining me now, former senior fbi profiler, mary ellen o'toole mary ellen, thank you so much for joining

me. you just heard about those additional details on the shooter's search history. he looked up the kennedy assassination as well. we understand what all of this tell you about the shooter in terms of maybe a profile well, what it tells me is that he was preoccupied with finding somebody that he could shoot somebody that he could assassinate, that he wasn't necessarily just focused on former for president trump. >> and i think that's very interesting because if you get just a laser-focus on a particular person that really is a different type of motivation, i think with him, once he realized that trump was going to be basically in his backyard in an area. where he could access, then that made his victimology come up quite a bit. but i think that he was looking at other people as well who just as easily could have been a target for him. so he was preoccupied with being able to shoot people with being able to build explosives and and

possibly use those as well. so i think his his thinking in his ideology was a lot broader than just one particular victim. >> harder to deter and prevent that broad spectrum of focus as well. i mean, the fbi saying the shooter was, quote, highly intelligent, and that he was also a loner, both online and in person, and we still don't know a motive how hard is it to solve given his lack of contacts in this short or the small social circle? >> that can make it very difficult. but the fact of the matter is he is a loner, which means he wasn't trying to be by himself that he was a loner by personality. and when that happens, he prefers to operate by himself and it's not likely that he would have brought in or even wanted to bring somebody in to his plants. and so that makes it difficult. but he also made a concerted effort to cover up his searches and to cover up how he was going about planning this crime. it's

pretty clear to me that the planning was very enjoyable to him. when you look at crime. and how much effort and time the person puts into the planning or carrying out the act itself. if the effort is in the planning that's the part that they really enjoyed. and i think for him that is something that he enjoyed very much, but he wasn't perfect at it. and the reason that i say wasn't part perfect because he engaged in behavior of the rally that drew attention to him from members of the tactical teams. he was not an experienced assassin. he wasn't an experienced strategic swap person. he sat on picnic tables, he drew attention to himself in on any other day? i would be very surprised that law enforcement would not have come down from where they were and said, what are you doing here? talk to us about what you're doing and he would have been arrested, but not that day i think saying because some republicans are saying that they would be shocked to find out this 20-year-old acted alone because of his age. >> what it really be so unusual

for somebody that age 20-years-old to pull off and plan this solo well i think i think it's unusual. i do, but i also think that his personality. i don't think he was trying to be a loner. i don't think he was trying to be an isolationist. i think his being a loner was so severe that it could have bordered on an undiagnosed mental health issue i'm not saying out of touch with reality, but he was very comfortable being alone or so for him to bring somebody else in to planning an event that he was really enjoyed, makes absolutely no sense. the only persons he would have brought in are people close to him that would have been his family, but i think he clearly opted that this was going to be just an event for so we've seen that in other cases, is it unusual? yes. but is it likely at the 11th hour this person who is a loner throughout his entire lifetime, brings in a buddy not going to happen.

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are free from discrimination we can and must be protected and expand our civil rights in america. >> we can and must prevent the abuse of presidential power he restore faith in the supreme court. we can and must strengthen the guardrails of democracy. they must have to remind ourselves who we are we're the united states of america well, joining me now, assistant attorney general for civil rights at the u.s. department of justice. ms kristin clarke, so glad to have you here. thank you for joining me this evening i'm an alum of the doj, obviously in your very prominent role, we all look to you for guidance and for your thoughts on what the state of america really is. as a woman of color, and somebody has a part of the department of justice. i wonder, what does the 60th anniversary of civil rights mean to you? the act itself? knowing the work that needs to be done. >> yeah. >> well, it's such a great moment to take stock of the tremendous progress that we've

made over the past six decades you know, we hold our heads down and do the work at the civil rights division the justice department, and the civil rights act of 1964 is one of the main tools that we are using to stand up to discrimination and it's a moment to take stock of the progress the two really remember that there's still a lot of work that needs to be done discrimination sadly, is alive and well in this country and it's a laws, like the civil rights act that gives us the ability to continue to make sure that we're making progress gress you yourself, were an alum, so you know, certainly the work that needs to be done this the rights division and the work that actually is do, it's actually doing. >> but you've heard a lot of people describe the work that promotes diversity or equity, or inclusion, or the acronym of dei it's leveled as an insult. >> it's suggested that somehow it is not only not needed, but that it is counterproductive to trying to achieve true equality

what do you say to those who are suggesting that there is no work to be done in that space. and that dei frankly, is unnecessary yeah. it's needed diversity matters. it matters now, more than ever, and we can and go back. one area of our work that i think provides a powerful example of the work that still needs to be done as hate crimes. hate crimes are alive and well in our country, we continue sadly to see anti-semitic violence, anti-arab violence, white supremacy it's fueled violence, islamophobia, homophobia our office has been prosecuting cases everything from the tree of life massacre in pittsburgh pennsylvania. the massacres of 23 latino people at a walmart in el paso, texas. we are prosecuting the defendant responsible for the deaths of ten black people at a top supermarket in buffalo, new york i don't see how anyone

can take a step back and look at the hate that we are wrestling with in america today and say that we should abandon the project of working to ensure that we have a diverse and inclusive america now you have project 2025 that is top of mind for many people in the electorate. i do wonder if that initiative concerns you in the doj we've been down this path before where we've made progress and we have suffered setback but we remain undeterred in our commitment to using the laws that we have and relying on the precedents that have been set by the courts to make sure that we are standing up for justice in this country. >> we we've experienced a setbacks, but we're not going to let us slow us down, or is there a frustration with the supreme court or other courts that chip away it seems at some of that progress and can create some setbacks we have seen

disappointing rulings that have made it harder to do this work. but it's important that we dust ourselves off and that we continue to use the tools that we have to make sure that people can have a voice in our democracy to make sure that people have equal access to jobs two homes, it's important that we fight red redlining by banks another crisis that we continue to see today. so we don't let the setbacks slowed down the project of continuing to fight for a just and equitable erica. >> finally, when i when i think about the work that needs to be done, and obviously we're in an election year and many people are focused on who will be the president united states the department of justice has often attacked as being a vehicle of weapons, of weaponizing politics or political you know, axes to grind. how do you stay above the fray and keep focused on the mission not only of the

department of justice, but the civil rights division, which has really been something there's only as evolve, but it's so necessary as you described in this country. yeah politics has no place in the way we carry out our work. the justice department, we hold our heads down. we follow the law and the facts. we filed cases to stand up for victims of discrimination, period. point blank. i have a poster of justice thurgood marshall that sits in my office civil rights american hero who dedicated his life and his career to standing up for the cause for justice. and is frankly, folks like thurgood marshall and constance baker motley, who shaped the way that we carry out our work today. it is about standing up for the voiceless and making sure that we're doing everything that we can to beat back the discrimination that we

sadly continue to see today, the pursuit of justice seems not to have yet caught it, but maybe one day. thank you so much for joining us. thank you thanks for watching anderson cooper 360 starts right now. tonight on 360 to harris campaign doubles down on calling their opponents weird and j.d vance claims his childless cat, ladies comments are being taken out of context while the latest from the campaign trail also tonight, breaking news, the democratic veepstakes and other big name says no thanks and new reporting on just how long donald trump's would-be assassin was on law enforcement's radar before he pulled the trigger. good evening. thanks for joining us. this is starting out to be another big week for kamala harris and daughter donald trump. she trying to build on last week's momentum. he figuring out how to refocus his campaign on her and not joe biden. both are in a race to define or be defined in the case of vice president harris and the democrats, that definition is in a word weird when talking about donald trump and