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region at vice president kamala harris is campaigning in the battleground state of georgia and issuing a dare to donald trump this is cnn breaking news we have breaking news overnight. the political leader of hamas, ismail haniah, is dead, according to hamas officials and irans revolutionary guard who nia was killed in tehran after attending an event honoring irans new president. any his death sparking and fears of a growing regional conflict between israel and its neighbors. it's something secretary of defense lloyd austin says, the u.s is working to avoid it. certainly what we've seen along the border the northern border with israel, overtime, that's that's been a concern of ours. again we're gonna do everything we can to make sure that we keep things from
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turning into a broader conflict throughout the region. >> and earlier this morning, iran supreme leader vowing to avenge the killing of haniah, writing quote, you killed our dear guests in our house and now have paved the way for your harsh punishment. we consider it our duty to ask for the blood of our dear guests. cnn has reporters all across the regions. cnn's ben wedeman is in lebanon, but let's start first with cnn's jeremy diamond, who's in israel. jeremy israel has not taken credit for this operation yet, but what do we know about this operation and how are israeli officials responding? >> well, jessica, this is an extremely significant development coming at a critical moment in this region. iranian state media as well as hamas saying that ismail haniah, the head of hamas's political bureau, was assassinated in the heart of the iranian capital. iranian state media saying that it was an airborne guided projectile that was fired at the building where he was staying, hamas
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calling it an airstrike, a number of questions to still be answered about the exact nature of the of what killed the hamas is a political leader. and more importantly, perhaps are the questions about what this means for this region. as i mentioned, this is it's already a very tense time in this region. we saw over the course of just the last 24 hours, not only was this smile haniah apparently assassinated in the iranian capital, but also a senior hezbollah military commander was killed overnight in the lebanese capital of a senior adviser hassan nasrallah, the head of hezbollah responsible for the group's military operations, the targeting of israeli towns and cities and military bases in northern israel over the course of the last ten months and so already with just that strike in beirut, there were already questions about whether or not this could tip the region jen tip this conflict between israel and hezbollah
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into all out war. and now, of course those questions are heightened. in addition to that question about where this leaves those ceasefire negotiations where we have seen some momentum recently, the qatari prime minister, one of the key mediators in these discussions, saying political assassinations and continue targeting of civilians in gaza, while talks continue can you leads us to ask how can mediation succeed when one party assassin assassinates the negotiator on the other side, at least in the short-term, it seems very clear that those negotiations are going to go nowhere. jessica jeremy diamond for us there in israel. >> thanks so much in this breaking news coming just hours after a hezbollah commander was killed in lebanon according to israeli defense forces, an airstrike near beirut killed hezbollah commander fu'ad shukr an idf spokesperson saying the strike was in retaliation for an attack earlier this week in the golan heights that killed 12 children at a soccer field cnn has ben wedeman is joining us now from beirut. ben, what are you hearing this morning in beirut well, where there still
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digging through the remains of the building that was struck by israel well, yesterday that we believe led to the death of fu'ad shukr, that senior hezbollah military commander, but hezbollah has yet to actually acknowledge he was killed regarding the assassination of its mayan haniah in tat on. >> we are seeing here sina statement from his butler saying that he was one of the great leaders of the resistance in our presence present era and he said that the statement goes on to say we in his butler share with our dear brothers in the hamas movement all the feelings of pain over the loss of this great leader, the feelings of anger at the enemy he's crimes. now, of course, if you take the hit, the strike in beirut yesterday and in the early morning of the hours the
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assessment nation of the hamas leader in to add on it certainly amounts to a serious escalation of the situation. and we did here at a press conference by the iranian ambassador to beijing routes saying that iran does not seek war, but does not accept that the region falls prey to israel. and the united jessica all right. >> ben wedeman for us in beirut, lebanon this morning. thank you so much. and i want to bring in now cnn military analysts and retired air force, air force colonel cedric leighton and cnn's chief international security correspondent, nick paton walsh and nick, we just outlined it, but you back up a little bit to this weekend where you have this strike that. killed 12 children in the golan heights in israel, then you have the strike against that commander of hezbollah in lebanon now, we have this top hamas political leader killed intake in tehran. and you put it all together and
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it seems like we are right there at the edge looking over at a potential escalation here that that could result in a much bigger conflict. >> yeah. look, i think it's important to separate perhaps the motivation or purpose behind the response to southern beirut. seemingly by israel against key hezbollah commander after the attack on the golan heights. and then this separate instance in northern terror on, against the hamas political leader ismail haniyeh. now, while obviously can't speak entirely for israeli motivations and they haven't claimed responsibility for the northern tehran attack. it goes an extra stage further, it is essentially them on the offense. you can see potentially an argument for the southern beirut attack as having been their response the horrors inflicted on it seemed mostly children, druze children, golan heights, over the weekend, but the assassination, as it appears to be of here, very direct bid to perhaps curtail political negotiations to take somebody out who's always been on israel's most wanted list
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since october the seventh through indeed celebrated those attacks himself, despite it seems not being involved, that's essentially in their planning. so stark move here by israel and one that throws a certainly into an area of deep uncertainty. we do not know what iran is capable of. they have hezbollah to the north of israel in lebanon, but they have it seems being reluctant so far to launch them into a false gayle war. it will be hugely devastating for both israeli and lebanese civilians if that were indeed launched. and it would probably leave hezbollah significantly weakened afterwards and probably israel as well. so iran reluctant to play that card so far, they've also seen their drones and missiles in april launched directly at israel, not really get through intercepted by israel well, and its western allies. so their options are limited. also, the supreme leader ayatollah khomeini, while saying harsh punishment is due, israel at this time. well, he's 85. he's just sworn in a president who is more moderate than perhaps he would like after years of unrest so is he in an optimal position to start a
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broader conflict? really unclear here, i would say probably know. and so huge embarrassment for iran, this has happened right inside the security bubble against the guests they would consider to be distinguished like kenya, but ultimately what can they do will have to wait and see their options are limited? but a phenomenally fibro region here, where we simply do not know what next action can spur. their response onwards towards and a deeply troubling warning certainly it seemed bad when southern beirut was hit the death of haniah takes us to a whole new area yes. >> certainly in cedric nic makes a very valid point and an important point that this strike happened in tehran to a guest that was there in tehran talk to us a little bit about the capabilities. if it is in fact israel that did this, the capabilities big to do something like that. >> yeah, jessica, this is one of those areas where intelligence, plays a key role with precision strikes like this, it makes all the
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difference. and when you look at the way in which the hamas leadership, who was quartered in tehran. yes, they were guests of the iranian regime but the israelis clearly knew where they were living. they knew probably more about the we'll structure of the house then the people who were living there and that becomes really critical because what the israelis did was they used a weapon system that was extremely precise that went in and took out honea and his bodyguard and nobody else as far as we know at this this point in time, what this means is that the israelis are basically saying, we can find your leadership wherever they may be, and we can destroy them if we choose to do so. >> i'm so what does this mean for this trying to put it all together, this broader conflict, you have israel and hamas is still fighting in gaza. you have the northern front there with lebanon and now also two and those are all obviously iran proxy groups that are fighting men and now you have this direct strike in
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iran. how does that all fit together? >> so the proxy groups and we also probably should add the houthis in yemen were also rainy and proxies. so you have in essence three different proxy groups that are directly in conflict, either with israel or with the west. all of them have connections to the iranians and the big connection is that many of them are, while all of them are funded we're supported in one way or another, either through money or training or both. i by the iranians, it specifically by the iranian revolutionary guard corps, the irgc is really a critical, critical component to all of this. the irgc and essences of masterminding a lot of the attacks that these groups are put together there at least worried king in concert with them to some extent. and then what happens after that is the irgc is really looking at extending iran's influence throughout the region. so these proxies serve as a means of really extending iranian influence. they've done it very much in iraq. they're doing it and syria.
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and of course, what they're trying to do is they're trying to tie down israel in what amounts to a two front war. >> and just quickly before we, we have to go the risk of the u.s. getting pulled into this really high. >> remember, we still have troops in iraq and in syria also enjoy all of these places have vested us interests and the real problem is, is that the iranians could very well drag us into something that we don't want to be drug into that includes the persian gulf. all of these all of these parts of the middle east are really areas where the united states fuels it has to exert some degree of influence. the ukrainians want us out of there. >> all right, colonel cedric leighton, nick paton walsh. our thanks to both of you, nic, we'll be back with us a little bit later to talk more about this. so a calm on cnn this morning, kamala harris and j.d. vance campaigning in key battleground states, plus more details on the overnight assassination of the top hamas political leader in iran hugs
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you've got something to say j.d. >> vance also hitting the trail campaigning in nevada, trump and battles running mate trying to own the narrative on law and order and the border they sit bended deportations. they stopped building the wall. they reinstated catch and release. that's how every state became a border state. she wants to in cash bail. so if you assault a police officer, you can be back on the street the next day. she wants to confiscate firearms for law abiding citizens just 98 days now until america votes, let's bring in alex thompson, national political reporter for axios, new york times journalist lulu garcia navarro and matt gorman, former communications director for the national republican congressional committee. >> good morning, everyone great to have you here. alex, let's let's start at the beginning of all of those clips will
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trump ultimately debate kamala harris, do you think his team is saying that he's going to and this is sort of a bit of a negotiating tactic that essentially he agreed to debate joe biden on abc and now they're going back and forth and saying, well now it's a different candidate will see, i bet you we still will have multiple debates and clearly kamala harris is team, wants to have them. they she's said that she thinks that they're the underdog in this race. they want to get her and right next to amman a debate stage, she's younger. she can articulate a case. she has the prosecution background. she can deliver the sort of canned lines and debates. i expect we'll have one or maybe two and matt, it's worth noting that rally last night was in atlanta, georgia, a place that are a state that looked like it was out of going to be out a reached for democrats that now potentially democrats are hoping maybe they can get back and win as they did in 2020. what does that say to you that one of the first places she's going is down to georgia and
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next week, as he be doing a little tour on the swing states or there's a springsteen lyric about pocan, a dog deceiving it gets up and run. if i'm hurry of a new campaign, you have excite me of a new candidate go and see if these states that were essentially dead or close off the table for joe biden, if they get up and run a little bit the polls move in a way that is separate from purely the excitement of having a new candidate and kind of pie of the last week. i think what you saw also was i'm seeing shades a little bit of her announcement in january 2019, where it was electric announcement, lots of people. but what commons always been very, very good at is when she controls the variables and she's able to like, have a lot of preparation as a prosecutor enter. i think she's able to succeed well, she gets in her backfoot a lot is when she has is unkind of prepared interactions that are supporters. other candidates like tulsi gabbard on the debate stage. so that's gonna be the tell for me when she starts with interviews maybe debate. maybe can get through that with canned lines, but this reminds me a little bit more of her announcement when she first ran for president. >> yeah and then we get to the issue of immigration and the
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border crisis, which of course republicans really want this to be a huge piece of this campaign. >> and they really want to pin it on kamala harris. we heard j.d. vance school when after her i want to play what she said to that. let's listen went after transnational gangs, drug cartels, and human traffickers that came into our country illegally i prosecuted them in case after case, and i won donald trump donald trump on the other hand, has been talking a big game about securing our border. >> but he does not walk the walk or as my friend quavo would say, he does not walk it like he talks how effective is that pushback?
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>> because republicans really want to hang this all on her. it's a vulnerability for democrats. it has been do you think she can effectively counter that? >> well, i think what was very interesting last night as she's trying to get ahead of it, right? she's trying to have a narrative which is don't think about the three-and-a-half years of joe biden and what's happened at the border? i'm going to talk to you about the person i was before i joined the ticket. and again, it's that process it's a cuter it's trying to talk about what she did in california of course, the counter narrative coming from the republicans is that you were borders, are she wasn't, but that's the kind of thing that they're trying to pin on her. listen, this is a bad issue for democrats. it's a bad issue for kamala harris she has a narrative here. she's trying to push it that there is a bill that failed and because of donald trump and she would sign it if she comes into office. but the fact is that the more you talk about it, the more that her record and the record of this administration is going to come into the focus, and i don't think she's going to win on the merits on this.
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>> yeah we'll and makes a great point because there was that legislation, bipartisan legislation that was killed. >> but explaining that alex to the american people, it takes a minute to walk through all of that. it's not as simple answer. do you think that they can you know, it's it's just it's not easy to message all of that. >> she tried to make that argument yesterday that we want to secure the border. donald trump killed the bill that was the main argument who is also interesting is i covered the 2020 20 democratic primary that was not the same. kamala harris to she was not talking about her prosecutorial record in that way about going after central american gangs this is a different calmly as you've seen, basically, her run away from her 2019 campaign, she's no longer running on medicare for all she's running on and her prosecution will record, whereas before the comma as a cop mean from the left wing, really bothered her. so she wasn't running as a prosecutor. now, she's a general election candidate. she's running on that record. it will be interesting to see if voters follow along are also democrats i mean, this is a
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problem for her with democrats because the tougher you are on issues on the border, there is a big part of the base. there, including latinos who are like, we are, we weren't happy with that. bill were not happy with the positions at joe biden has taken, and we certainly don't embrace some of the things that kamala harris saying to, alright, we're going to leave it there, but you're going to stay with us. we'll come back to you all in just a minute. thank you so much. and up next on cnn this morning, hamas, top political leader assassinated in iran we have new details just in about his funeral. plus, get ready to the non-stop political ads because the ad wars are underway 1968, sunday at nine on cnn can reveal support your brain health. very janet, hey eddy, know, fraser, frank, frank bred. >> how are you? >> fred, fuel up to seven brain health indicators, including your memory? joined the nerivan brain health challenge so who
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will be buried in doha on friday after a funeral procession in tehran, thursday, iranian officials saying he was killed in tehran, by a guided airborne projectile which hit the house where he was staying and joining us now with more on this, nick paton walsh, cnn's chief international security correspondent. nick, what is israel saying at this hour and what more are you learning as we continue to get more details and still have a lot of questions out there. >> yeah, certainly so far, israel only saying that they don't comment on foreign media reports now that is i think a sort of code that we've heard in the past when an event occurs or an act like this occurs, the potentially has the hand of israel behind it, their way of not denying involvement, but also not concerned firming it were in that curious position here, but that hasn't stopped. the iranian president. the iranian government, the iranian supreme leader, pointing the finger directly at israel, essentially saying that a guest in their house had been killed and israel should wait
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for harsh punishment for doing this. quite what form that will take is key. and i think in order to enable a around a fashion that response they're going to carefully construct the details of exactly how this happened. we know very little about this apparent explosion strike depending on what report you read that seems to have hit a special veterans guest house in northern iran where is melania was staying? now? it isn't clear quite the extent of the damage the building. there are some reports saying it was limited, which would suggest an exceptionally targeted strike. and indeed, the only other casualty is one of hani as bodyguards. that's currently talked about the phrase being used as an airborne guided projectile, which frankly could be anything. does seem to point away though from saudi immediately accusing israel of using a jet and an airstrike in all of this. so they've gravity in which iran portrays its sovereignties haven't been violated here. that will be key in what they say they're going to do in spots. and so we're waiting, i think for more
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details from iran and also potentially some greater clarity from israel and and the extent of its involvement here. >> just right. nick paton walsh for us. thank you so much for that reporting. >> still ahead on cnn this morning the killing of ismail haniah is furthering sirens of an all-out war in the middle east former alabama senator doug jones also joins us to discuss the presidential candidates newest attack. when we come back thank you. >> one to treat bitcoin plus oil plus gold plus so much
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she just lied. >> the border is secure and kamala harris failed dangerously liberal. >> kamala harris supports increasing the number of border patrol agents. >> donald trump blocked a bill to increase the number of border patrol agents. >> there's two choices in this election. the one who will fix oh, broken immigration system and the one who's trying to stop her the one thing kamala harris has always been fearless as a prosecutor. >> she put murderers and abusers behind bars joining us now is former democratic senator from alabama, doug jones, senator great to have you here this morning. >> good to be with let's talk about some of those ads first, i think it is important to note just for clarity that she was not officially border czar. >> she did have a job at trying to who spur economic development and some of those countries but just taking a look at what we just played, we see the trump campaign clearly
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trying to define her and tie her to all of the issues at the border and you have the harris campaign really trying to go on offense how do you think that's going to play out with our viewers in battleground states, we're going to see those, you know, frankly, i think ultimately it is not going to be the defining issue of this campaign. >> you don't? no, absolutely not. i mean, look, there are too many other issues. the economy and i think character and integrity. i mean, look at the contrast between kamala harris and donald trump and j.d. vance. i mean, j.d. vance is essential shelley warning to start another three-fifths compromise for childless couples from the constitution where you only count votes with people who chalice couple accounted less than votes with people that you love children. so i think there's gonna be some now make no mistake. it's an an issue that the border is an issue. there's no question. what kamala harris did and what her role was was not as a borders are what she was trying to do was to try to spur economic development. so there wasn't that mass influx of
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people trying to get a better life and escape the poverty and the gangs in central america i think as we go forward and i think once that border bill that donald trump did defeat almost single-handedly. and j.d vance voted against to who by the way, i think it's going to even out a little bit. i don't think it's going to be as big an issue. it is certainly a concern for the american people that needs to be addressed. i think both sides are going to try to play it. but at ultimately, i think there's going to be a lot of other issues in this campaign. >> how do you think voters internalize these sorts of ads? because we watched them, we talk about them, obviously, if you're watching tv, they're in your home how. much of a difference do they actually mean? >> i think they make some difference, but, you know, look at america today. we are so polarized. there is a camp that is going to vote for donald trump and republican party regardless, there's a kansas going to vote for kamala harris ended didn't really matter. there's a lot of democrats don't like that border bill
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that was killed, but they're going to vote for kamala harris and they're not going to stay home and let donald trump win. it's the middle of voters the double haters that people have talked about now for so long, that didn't like trump or biden. i think are going to kind of drift now toward kamala harris and whoever she picks as her running mate so i think the ads make a difference, but they also just kind of reinforce a lot of what people already believe. and it's the issues that i think are the intangibles that really are going to make the difference? france in this election, and it's been interesting to see the polling on double-haters go down since she's absolutely okay. former senator doug jones, stay right here. let's turn to this. now, former president trump sharpening his language against jewish democrats and claiming vice president kamala harris does not like jews, despite the fact that she's married to one if you are jewish regardless of israel, if you're jewish if you vote for a democrat, you're a fool.
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>> an absolute fool. number one, she doesn't like israel. number two, she doesn't like jewish people, you know, it i know everybody knows it and nobody wants to say it in that same interview, trump appears to agree with a conservative radio host who makes disparaging remarks about harris's husband, doug emhoff they told me that they saw this harris's husband, doug emhoff, mr. president, is jewish. >> he's jewish like bernie sanders is jewish. so you kidding me, he's a crappy job. he's a horrible job okay. >> our panel is back matt, they're calling people call someone a horrible jew or horrible catholic fill in the blank pretty offensive in my advice is don't overthink kind of the messaging on this race, right? >> like this, this, go back to what you were going to run the campaign. you got to run on june 26, the day before that fateful cnn debate, right? economy, crime, immigration, right? i think it also mix in some of the policies that we
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see kind of camo running from since you ran for president 20, 2020, when you get into somebody's other issues it complicates it. it owns news cycles in ways that you don't want to write. it takes time away from talking about immigration. so over complicating, over thinking it and not sticking to some of the core issues. i think is a little bit the danger out. >> i just i'm just laughing because how many times we had to hear someone explain something that donald trump has said that is utterly offensive terrible and say, he should just stick to the issues. he should stay on message. you should talk about the things that republicans really want him to talk about. and unfortunately that's not the man that's at the top of the ticket. and this is isn't it incredibly offensive thing that he said, there's a big trope especially for jews in this country where there's like the loyal jew and the disloyal jew that, you know, the person who is actually loyal to this country and someone who is a bad jew. and i don't think donald trump really should be talking about that. i think it is offensive to many people of faith in this it's coming up and alex, it's not it's not the first time he's gone after jewish democrats in particular
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criticizing them for their choice. if that's their choice to vote for the democratic ticket. >> yeah. i mean, what's so ironic about this? i remember every trump official on ally was telling calling me for two weeks ago that he has changed demand after this escalation attempt that we were finally going to see the long-promised trump pivot to a general election candidate. he was going going to be more disciplined and that the shooting really had changed and he felt blessed by god. and now we're all the way back here. just two weeks later and he's saying these things that he was saying right before the you talk about the trump pivot again, can we come back actually now to never talk about the trump pivot percent so i want to read what the harris campaign reacted with this because their statement, donald trump thinks he can score points with jewish voters by denigrating them he is wrong. >> the disgusting comments are below the dignity of anyone, let alone someone who will bleed our country senator it's just again like the fact that we're even talking about this
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stunning yeah. >> i mean, it's just done again, a matter the one thing i disagree with you a little but i don't think even before that the debate, the trump campaign was going to talk about the issues this is just typical. he had to pivot if he pivoted at all, it was pivot to combo harris and other attacks and not joe biden anymore. this is, this is donald trump's conduct campaign. this is all he's going to talk about. and if you disagree three with him, he is going to belittle you. he was going to call you names and that is just i really believe and maybe i'm wrong guys, but i really believed that's going to have more effect on the american people who are ready for a change and ready to get that kind of crap over with. and really get to governing and having democracy and having people try to come together he is incredibly divisive language that is, i believe going to backfire on his campaign. >> and matt just quickly before we go obviously, there's a lot of eyes on harris. is a vp
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pick. we now know that whoever it is will be going on at tour with her next week, starting in philadelphia. what do you make of all of these tea leaves reading first? >> i think i think it's kind of funny. there is a little bit imitation going on. we saw a lot of republicans doing a lot of media. sunday shows, like doing a little bit of tour while they were going through the vp process. we're seeing no, no duplicate the democratic side. he's seen their peak doing sunday shows. mark kelly is on other networks as well, where they really weren't doing a lot of medium that's number one. but number two is the, doing this tour of the swing states. they're doing a lot more events together. i looked at things to be very interesting. it tells me also, they're going commonly harris is putting a lot of emphasis on chemistry relationship when when she picks up a possible vice president. okay. so we will see who it will be. a thanks to our panel. always good to see all of you. thanks so much coming up on cnn this morning, breaking news out. i've iran as hamas is political leader, is assassinated. we're going to talk to a former spokesperson for the israeli military. plus what tuesday's arizona primary results could mean for the
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in the heart of the hit on. and to send a very strong message to the iranian puppeteers who behind the scenes have been actually controlling and monitoring and managing this entire situation that israel has been facing since october 7 it is definitely tense. i agree with you that now israel will be bracing for both hezbollah attacks, hamas attacks, and possibly and iranian attack against it because in a matter of about ten or 11 hours is what was able to assassinate both a very senior hezbollah militant commander, fu'ad shukr in beirut and the political leader and one of the key figures of key architects of the the tobar seventh massacre is melania interferon and as such, i think it's fair to assume that there will be some kind of iranian or hezbollah, or hamas response and he was very involved in
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these ceasefire and hostage negotiations to try to get a deal. now that he's been assassinated, the thought is that that is very much stalled, that it means that there's a very low chance for any deal what do you say to that first of all, i don't think that it's right to describe him as someone who has been trying to reach a deal. >> he's been part of negotiations because he's the head of the political wing. i'm not sure that he has been trying to reach a deal. i think that he's been stalling. like what a restaurant hamas has been doing and we can see this one of two ways. the one way that you said that this might hurt negotiations, there's logic behind that. on the other hand, this might also send a clear message to your hair sinwar. the remaining summer senior terrorists in gaza that the clock is ticking and that any day that they do not do a
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deal and they don't release the hostages. his fate might be the same as ismail haniyeh's which means that this might also actually motivate them to actually agree to the terms and to go ahead and releases israeli hostages. we can see it in any of the both ways. understand that the lots of people around the world will want to focus on this not be conducive of releasing the hostages. but i think that if we looked at the general situation that hamas finds itself in after ten months of war they're not in a very good position when it comes to their military capabilities. a lot of pressure. they're not defeated yet, but it's what has made good progress in that sense. >> all right. jonathan conricus, we appreciate your time this morning. thanks so much thank you. all right. >> and i believe we want to bring in cnn's nick paton walsh, who is standing by nic. are you with us? >> yeah absolutely. >> all right. i will tell us what israel is saying at this
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hour about these reports simply because they haven't said that they are responsible for this just yet, although jonathan conricus former idf spokesperson, said it's certainly appears that they are yeah. >> look, i mean, this is not uncommon for a situation like this for israel to say they don't comment on foreign media reports and that's pretty much all we've got out of them at the moment. and that has normally been as a result of some sort of operation that israel has carried out, but doesn't want its fingerprints on or has been able to perhaps the stage hide its direct involvement and it might suggest that we're talking less about something overt, like an israeli jets launching an airstrike, it might tend towards this being a more covert operation by israeli agents on the ground. i'm speculating here entirely, but it would follow a pattern. this kind of israel they statement of that and we've also just heard from a familiar figure, javid zarif, the former iranian foreign minister, that he in his words, he thinks that
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benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, is pushing the region to the brink of catastrophe. so no shortage of fiery rhetoric this morning. but jessica, the ultimate question really here is what is it within iran's capabilities to do as a response? do they want to launch a full scale war using hezbollah, their proxy in lebanon to the north of israel possibly unlikely for normally damaging to that proxy to lebanon israel as well. would it be something they choose to do over this? yes, they've suffered an acute embarrassment and a key guests like kani are being killed and the security bubble of tehran but as they begin to let the details eke out of exactly how this happened. that will also potentially give them off ramps for the extent of the response that they choose to take against israel. israel won't have done this if indeed they were behind it without already pre calculating what that response might necessarily be, but they'll also have the knowledge that perhaps they believe has billard don't want
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to fall girl conflict was quite possible. israel doesn't really in his heart of hearts either. and at the same time, israel has seen in april, iran directly launched 300 drones and missiles against israel and find most of them intercepted by better israeli and western technology on route. and so a lot of questions as to what iran has within its capability to do as response. and will hear i think more details about how this happened will give us more of a clue about what's likely from tehran in the hours ahead, jessica. >> all right. nick paton walsh. thank you so much. we also i also before i let you go though, i do i do want to ask you about i was just asking jonathan conricus about these hostage negotiator she asians and the ceasefire deal. he was making the case that maybe this puts pressure on hamas to come to a deal. but there's also this thought but without with him out of the picture, that these this deal becomes even harder to get yeah. >> look, i mean, it's it's odd to hear people talking about a
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ceasefire deal i after the key hamas negotiate it in that was killed, it seems by israel, yeah, maybe in the long run, certainly in the moderate future, the medium future, there will be continued talks, possibly between hamas and israel because they simply can't it's avoid the fact that at some point negotiation will be how the horrific conflict in gaza winds itself to an end. but right now today, it does seem slightly a tonal to hear secretary of state antony blinken talk about the ceasefire being their main objective half of the negotiating team they're negotiating group. there has been killed by the israelis, and that will certainly undermine a lot of where they got to so far not particularly successful in the most recent history, these talks, but a huge disruption to kill one of the negotiators all right. >> nick paton walsh. thank you very much the redemption tour he's complete. simone biles and team usa gymnastics, clenching gold in the women's team finals yesterday and there when the culmination of what
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the team called their redemption tour after they finished second in the 2020 tokyo games due to a last-minute withdrawal by biles biles officially becoming the most decorated american olympic gymnast with eight metals seven-time olympic medalist shannon miller is joining us now. shan, good morning. thanks so much for being with us. walk us through what goes through a moment like that. when you win gold, when you set a record like simone biles and her teammates did last night you know, i think it's almost surreal and i know that the team is so excited right now, but it'll be ten years from now when it truly thinks in the history that was made last night and we saw a lot of history. we saw brazil get a medal. italy get there metal. are first medal in a very long time, and it was just an incredible competition. but i love these girls. they have each gone individually through some really tough things in the last for eight years on this
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long road. >> so to capture the goal last night and put on a really awesome show of difficulty and skill it was awesome you were part of the magnificent seven of course, that took home gold in the 1996 olympics. olympics. i loved watching that by the way, that was so great what's your reaction to this team named this is there redemption turow and that's kind of how they're going to go down. now what we're talking about it like you said, ten years now i think it's an athlete. >> you always failing, right? you're always, you're fallen off the beam you're missing the mark that's part of the process, right? failure is part of the journey and you learn that early on. so i feel like your career is almost always about redemption and i could do this and every event you mistake and then okay? got to redeem myself when the next event. so it really just goes along with the theme of sports and honestly, the theme of life for all of us are just, you know, when we make a mistake, we're trying to get back up and keep going. and i love what this team did. and by

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