kamala harris's a campaign event quavo was there. here's the thing, there's been a lot of critique right now on why was she torque and you can work and still take on this she wasn't she was she was for meg. she was very classy. okay. and i appreciate kaltura me and she had a beautiful outfit on. she did her thing, but i think i appreciate culture showing up to politics. it's how you meet people where they are. but i will also say it's not like she just jumped on the bandwagon because now the vice president is at the top of the ticket. she has been an advocate on abortion rights, quavo has been an advocate for gun violence prevention. their citizens to they get to have a voice and this is how they want to show up and engage in democracy. and i love it's an interesting, it's we're not going to debate the torquing part of this at all. but i'm just saying the tapping into the culture is definitely something that is happening now, there was not happening about a month ago. everyone. thank you so much for being here at the table and thank you for watching at home news tonight.

state of the race is done. laura coates, live though, starts right now where do i begin tonight? >> you know what i'm holding in my hand two books one is the art of the deal, and the other written by american businessman dale carnegie, how to win friends and influence people now this one promises, you can go after the job you want, and you can get it. you can take the job. you have and improve it. you could take any situation and make it work for you. how you might ask. well, it tells you there are six ways to make people like you, 12 ways to win people over nine ways to change people without arousing resentment add it up. that's 27 rules to follow to try to get it right. well, guess how many donald trump followed today in front of the national association of black journalists yeah let's see how

he did with some of the most famous of the principals. >> go into one do not criticize, condemn, or complain don't even say hello, how are you? are you with abc? because i think they're a fake news network at terrible that you were half an hour well, i so we understand, i have too much respect for you to be laid. they couldn't get their equipment working or something well, the complaints they kept coming and coming, so we're going to put an x for that particular principle. >> let's go to another one. >> principle number two remember their name kamala and camila definitely didn't follow that principle x. by the way, in a previous rally, he said he doesn't care less if he mispronouncing her name let's move on to principle number three. >> be quick to acknowledge your

own mistakes you have told for congress when women of color, who were american citizens to go back to where they came from you have used words like animal and rabbit to describe black district attorney's you attack black journalists calling them losers, saying the questions that they asked. >> our quote stupid and racist you've had dinner with a white supremacist that you're mar-a-lago resort. so my question, sir now that you were asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you after you have used language like that well, first of all, i don't think i've ever been asked that question. >> so in such a horrible manner, first question and i think it's disgraceful that i came here in good spirit i love the black population of this country. i've done so much for the black population of this country including employment

including opportunity zones with senator tim scott of south carolina, which is one of the greatest programs ever for a black one. markers and black entrepreneurs, a dozen so much the old focus on the way you said it. >> not what you said routine. i got to give two exes for the deflection aspect of his answer principle number four. of this is a good one have others believe your conclusion? pollution is their own conclusion do you believe that vice president kamala harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman. well, i can say no, i think it's maybe a little bit different, so i've known her a long time, indirectly, not directly, very much. and she was always of indian heritage and she was only promoted putting indian heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. so i don't know if she indian are received

he is a black eye college. i respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because he was indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made attack and she went she became a black just to be clear, sir, i take somebody should look into that too, when you ask a continuing a very hostile nasty it's a direct question, sir, do you believe that vice president kamala harris is a dei hire somebody really i mean, i really don't know could be could made. >> there are some and there are plenty. >> hold on. i'm looking in the back is there a way that one can turn black? hold on is in this book neither i. guess birtherism wasn't enough of an unfounded rabbit hole preoccupation that detracted from the real issues americans care about yeah, give a big x for that one and also for thinking that anyone in that room would have reached your same inclusion, we're almost there. last one of the big ones

a hot principle, number five, make people feel important and do it since dearly i will tell you that coming coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happened to be taken in black jobs. >> you had the best what exactly is a black jobs are a black job is anybody that has a job that's what it is anybody that has a all right. does that mean he has a black job oh, hey, how about i get a point for actually having a black job x for him though so overall, womp, womp when it comes to this book for him not to great. well, there's always the other one. the art of the deal. but maybe choose between both, maybe next time, you just read the room or just maybe you focus on the policy differences where you could perhaps make a convincing case no, a room full

of journalists who want to report on the things you've said that could have a direct line to the electorate that boats. and what 97 days now, harris hasn't seem bothered by it all. when she reacted to it, she was in a room full of black sawers who she simply said to the american people deserve better i want to bring in cnn political commentator van jones, washington correspondent, atlanta journal-constitution, tia mitchell, she currently serves as chair of the political task force for the national association of black journalists also joining us former executive director of the national diversity coalition for trump, bruce lavelle, and former senior adviser to donald trump omarosa manigault, newman. she is the author of unhinged glad to have all of you here, particularly for laura coates's book club night taylor, who begin with you for a moment here because tia, you helped organize today's event and you have

been at the receiving end of a lot of criticism am i saw your tweets and the tweet threads and you said that you are not okay in this moment. and i want to give you an opportunity as my respected friend and colleague to week two, the experience that you have had based on the decision to have him attend and speak at this event so i will say i'm doing much better. >> thank you for asking. thank you for your concern. but you, know there was just a lot of negative energy sent my way because i chose the publicly identified myself as someone who helped to organize today's event and i also chose to publicly say that i stood behind the decision to invite president trump, former president trump, possibly future president trump, to address the national association of black journalists but to ask, you know, you asked how i'm feeling about it all. >> i come back to i am trying to do the work of creating

opportunities for black journalists, for increasing the pipeline of black journalists we're creating exposure to black journalists. >> in black journalism and that's what nabj is about. and when we have a newsmaker plenary is like this we are giving the journalists in the audience a chance to hear directly from a notable figure that many of them might not have ever had an opportunity to see in person. and again, that's part of our mission. we do it every convention year and then every four years, we focus on the candidates for president. and i think it's important. i think i understand trump is a different type of political figure. one we've never seen before but i think that makes it even more important. that we're aware of the stakes. and quite frankly, the questions that were asked today by those three black women journalists. that's a different experience than i think trump has ever had. and that's important too, if he's going to lead this nation tia well sad and frankly, many of

the questions that were asked, if not all, had been on the minds of journalists all across the country, all across the globe. and they were asked at this event in chicago for the national association of black journalists. let me turn to you, bruce just because trump has made headlines once again, i can't think of an opportunity when he has not made headlines, one of the big issues is that he was challenging the racial identity vice president kamala harris. and i wonder from your perspective, why would that be the vehicle to attack her identity when there could possibly be policy differences? that he could illuminate for the betterment of his own campaign yeah. >> well, thanks for having me. good good afternoon. good evening. should i say, listen, i i look at it in this perspective and i just want to shout out to kevin lemon for the president of nabj for putting on this great event and you know, giving kudos and to

everyone that was involved, kudos a tia and putting this together, i think it's important. i've been a frequent visitor of the atlanta association of black journalism here in atlanta. and i have family that have benefited off of that program because let's be frankly, i'm one of the oldest person on this the on this panel, i remember the 80s. it was the true conduit to get through to be a journalist, to get in turn jobs here at cnn and other places. so the answer your question as it relates to that you know, we all know when camila vice president kamala harris ran for attorney general and you can track check me on this news outlet said she's the first indian american. she did run as indian american okay. then she was chosen for the vice president nominee is the candidate for joe biden. and there he was told that you will get a black woman. so then she says, well, here is a black one so in all fairness in white she when she asked that question to president trump, that's a valid answer because that's

based on her where she was in her life she chose to be at that time. so that's where that answer comes in. so she's the one that did it he's the one thing i'll do hold on one second. >> i want to just make clear. i know excuse me. >> excuse me do not owe me and i'm going to give you excuse me. do not overtop me on my way to get here. so that's why if you would allow me to speak, i would clarify the opportunities for each of you on the panel to have a chance to speak and have your own point heard to an audience who's eager, as you can with baden the breath to hear your opinion, but you cannot talk over each other. i want everyone to hear. so when i hear you hear this voice or this ding, ding, ding of the laura coates down, please stop. van. >> let me go to you because you are reacting to what was being said and i want you to have a chance to react to this thought that kamala harris only lately revealed herself as a black woman well look i'm i'm a

californian. i voted for her as district attorney voted for her as attorney general. i voted for her for senate vice president on both for our us president. and she was black and every election. so i'm not quite sure what this rumor that there may have been some people in the business press were confused or in the bay area yes. silicon valley press. that was confused, but nobody in california was confused. i but i do want to speak to what trump was doing the day he was doing three things. he was trying to steal, dampen and divide. he was trying to steal attention from kamala harris because she's just been running over i mean, getting all the attention which he can't stand and so by showing up there, he got attention. we're talking about him and not her for the first time in about a week-and-a-half he's now the subject obs that he's also trying to dampen enthusiasm for black voters by raising these questions. is she really black? she really wanted to view. she tells other people she's not that's all i'll try to dampen black enthusiasm because the

country is just in love with kamala harris is commonly mania is taking over. he's trying to figure out where to dampen than the last thing he's trying to do is to divide by his his main attack was trying to divide black people from immigrants and trying to throw common in that same bucket as being an immigrant. she's not one of you so he's stealing he's dampening, he's dividing. in other words, he's the same old negative donald trump facing a rising sun of commonly harris who's bringing joy and unity and excitement is and he's terrified and what you saw was an old week an old week fading brand struggling for attention today and losing and losing ground. >> oh morose. i want to get you back. again. i want you to respond as well, bruce, to this point. i do want to play a clip from back in 2019 which predated, by the way, this discussion of when she announced her heritage. listen to this i'm black and i'm proud of being black and i was born black. i will die black and i'm proud of being black, and i'm not going to make any excuses for anybody because

they don't understand that's right. >> i'm rosa, i wonder what your reaction has been to this statement that she's only pandering for political benefit well, i think i probably know donald better than anyone on this panel. forgive me if anyone thinks differently, but i recall in his book, the art of the deal, laura, when donald trump identified himself as swedish, right because he didn't want to acknowledge that his father was german and his mother was irish, and he thought that that would play better to those who were patronizing his businesses. so can we call the question his past of self identifying as first swedish then german, and then irish whenever it's convenient, donald doesn't know the difference between ancestry and race he doesn't want to know the differences nor does he understand the nuances of how people self-identify and so

i believe that that's disqualifying the fighting for him. >> and when he mispronouncing her name, laura, he does it as a slur. >> he doesn't intentionally to harm her to make people see the otherness of kamala harris and so i posed the question to bruise when he says, oh, at some point she identified as this and at some point she identified as as this are you going to hold donald trump to the fire? or identifying himself as sweden, swedish, even though he has no swedish roots in his best-selling book, the art of the deal, bruce bruce you're happy to welcome to respond. you have a copy of the book is the final passage. >> i don't know about that, but this is all i know double standard. but the abc reporting you're asked a specific question. it is true and van you know this from california she did say identify as indian-american. now, i don't listen. i don't really care one way or the other, and i know president trump didn't care, but the specific question was asked. and then why did

charlemagne tha god asked? that specific way? because he's asking the same thing. okay. which one is it what are you running? are you running as a black american or you run as any american? that's why charlemagne asked that question in any, no one cares for his there are and she said, yes, you finished answering my question. it must have been either or to your point, must it be, you know, it doesn't matter, but she asked the question, where did it come from and listen, biden said, when he was running, i'm going to pick a black woman. i'm going to pick a black supreme court. so you want to, you want to talk about identity? the politics and pandering. i mean, let's go deep into this, but to ask a question, he answered it truthfully and guys know this man, you're from california, you know, she used that to her advantage in or and that's cool. tears, but that's the that's the correct answer. she benefited by being indian american. she won his attorney general and then she benefited by being a black bear, been chosen as the vp. so and that's, that's fair. >> tia, what's your response

you a couple of things. >> number one, i do think it's just important for us to acknowledge that people can be both a black american and an indian american. if you have one parent who's have indian descent and another parent who's up jamaican black jamaican descent. i think it's i think we need to be clear that she has always identified as both and she went to a black college and pledged a black sorority. when she was in her either late teens or early 20s. this is not something that she just came up. all of a sudden said, by the way, black. and that's it. think we need to be, does really clear about that because we want to deal in the truth and i think of the wider conversation is something that the trump-vance campaign is really, i think having a hard time dealing with is dealing with what modern families look like, people can

be of mixed race, multiple racist in their families. people might not have children. there might be blended families, there might be lgbtq families. that is what america has started the look like. and when former president trump appears that he doesn't really understand that intersectionali ty of someone being mixed race, it comes across that he's out of touch of what modern american families can look like. and i think it's really something that the trump-vance campaign is really going to have to deal with, or they're going the lose people are vance, i see your eyes, van. i know you want to interject amoroso. i'll give you the last four as well. go ahead i just want to say you can be you can be black, you can be an immigrant you can be indian, you can be a female, and you can be present united states. >> and she is about to be all those things. and that's why donald trump is scared that's why we're talking about this foolishness and such talking about the fact that she snuck cici stole immigration from him today, ran a brilliant ad

taking his main issue away from him. she is on a path to victory and donald trump is talking foolishness as usual. >> first, you see it that way. well, quick know, i see her as devastating our country and letting in being the borders are letting in tens of millions of illegal immigrants flooding our school system, especially in black culture. >> it right here in atlanta. so yeah, you're right, she is broad the immigrant issue because she's allowed it to open the floodgates to kill jobs? yes. to kill schools in chicago, oakland, and many other cities. so yeah, you are 100%, right? she has she has robbed it and stolen and open the gates and kill this economy omarov's, i'll give you the final word, quick laura. listen a vice president kamala harris, has donald trump on the ropes. i'm saying get hearing now on cnn. he will never debate her because he's scared of her because he knows that she will clean the floor, mop the floor with him. and so the bottom line is today was about distraction it's not about

getting votes. he knew that those folks in the room would hold him to account. and so he distracted by attacking, insulting, and going below the belt that's what he did. that's what he's about and people saw clearly that donald trump's should never get anywhere close to the oval office ever again call me a voter, but i like to hear about the issues thank you, everyone so much for joining me. >> it's great to hear from all of you. >> thanks well, vice president kamala harris was responding donald trump tonight so wasn't having any of it and let me just say the american people deserve better. the american people deserve better we've got a guest tonight who says he knows what the american people deserve. >> georgia democratic senator raphael warnock is here with me next when i was diagnosed with

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at the annual meeting of the national associates jason of black journalists and it was the same old show vice president kamala harris is to sink respond to donald trump's off the rails interview at the national association of black journalists annual convention earlier today, the same place where he falsely claimed the vice president. i think the phrase was happened to turn black for more reaction, i want to bring in democratic senator from georgia, reverend raphael warnock, senator, a pleasure to have you with us today. i have to know your reaction to some of the statements. in fact, many of them that donald trump was speaking, it was a reminder of in many ways what that administration was like. tell me about your reaction that's right. >> and look as disappointing as it is to hear this if it's anything, it's certainly not surprising this is who donald trump is. and he reminds us time and time again the only

thing he knows is the politics of division and hatred and this is what we're confronted with again, and he doesn't even recognize the sad irony of his remark in a real sense kamala harris's story is an iteration of the american story the diversity that is among us and often within us and that is the american story out of many one, he put this on them and she, she carries that literally in her veins and in that sense, he didn't know who we are and if you don't know when she can't represent us, you certainly can't lead us there are many people who watched that and thought is he fixated on quote unquote, what she is as opposed to what she stands for as an approach for his campaign. >> it struck me as an odd departure from a policy-focused

opportunity that he could have had in front of a roomful of noted journalists. >> well, the man has no agenda he has no vision. and so people who have no vision, traffic and division they don't know how to lead us. and so they're focused on dividing us. we should not forget how donald trump entered into the world of politics in the first place. remember, it was literally challenging the he birth certificate. a barack obama, he literally wrote in on division even before he announced his his candidacy. and then he came down that escalator and later on as he announced that he was running for the presidency, and he spent all of his time trying to convince each of us to be afraid of other people who are neighbors to be afraid of our neighbors and we should always be afraid of politicians would tell us to be afraid of our neighbors. we should be warry of those politicians at the debate. saying that these

immigrants are coming across the border taking black jobs. so whether it's trying to separate brown people from black people trying to somehow lift up part of kamala harris's identity over against the other part is if she has to choose as if we have to choose between who we embrace. i mean, it's a very narrow bigoted short-sighted vision is who is who he is and i think the more we are at reminded of it, the more we know what's at stake, the very soul of our country. >> one of the familiar messages and conversations that we've had for frankly, decades not even more intensely in recent years, has been the issue of police brutality officer involved shootings and the loss of life at the hands of law enforcement and a recent example is this tragic death of sonya massey and we're all been increasingly familiar, either interviewed her father. it's just hard breaking the

thing with the body camera footage coming out as well. >> i want to play for you a little bit about what trump said on the topic of whether officers should enjoy immunity unity. >> listen to this i don't know the exact case, but i saw something and it didn't love it didn't look good to me. >> it didn't look good to me. >> or you talking with the water? right? yeah. well, i mean, police unions are not backing this person either. but again, they're going to be a charging the officer, i guess they charging the officer. >> so why should he received immunity while he might not i mean, it depends it depends on what happens some are shocked that there wasn't a more full-throated response in the wake of the fact that this is somebody who has been charged, that as she mentioned, that police unions are not behind him, although he has said that he feared for his life, watching the body cam footage, it's incredulous to imagine how what do you make of his response? well, first of all, what happened to this young

woman? when saw sonya massey is just tragic and heart wrenching and heartbreaking. i've seen this, you know, as a pastor i've presided over the funerals of first persons who've experienced this or this kind of tragedy and we saw donald trump when he was president we saw how he responded in the wake of george floyd's killing this tragic death which happened at the hands of those sworn to protect and who, by the way, don't represent the lion's share of police officers. we've got them in my church there in our community. they do their job but we have this this ongoing tragedy in america and when he was president donald trump responded to the protesters by literally marching out of the white house and trampling over people and holding the bible. i

don't know what that message was all about. he should have opened up that bible where it says love your neighbor as yourself where it says in as much as you've done it unto the least of these, you've done it also unto me. this is who he is and the choice the stark choice between these two candidates is more than obvious. you literally have a criminal running against somebody who has spent much of her career prosecuting criminals. >> i do want to ask you, you touched on this point a comment made by trump doubling down or trying to explain the so-called black jobs comment. you described the pitting against brown and black people. frankly, this is a tale historically as old hold as america. and the idea of trying to alienate and create division among those who have been similarly situated in america talk to me about what you think that messaging will do in a place like georgia, where

frankly all eyes remain. won't work. >> you see me sitting in this chair is united states senator representing the great state of georgia. and it is a multiracial coalition of conscience that place me there red yellow brown black and white. these are the folks who poured out into our streets responding to the tragedy of george floyd. these other folks multi-generational, who have a vision of america that embraces all of us. they believe in an america where a child's outcome is not based on their parents income where there's a recognition that god has an equal opportunity employer, that there's genius and talent and brilliance all over the country, all over town on both sides of the track that is my america about 97 days to go far less were talking about early voting. >> senator, always a pleasure to have you here. thank you. >> thank you very much while the middle east. >> so the u.s. are on edge

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its enemies in just the last few days one of those blows was against the iranian backed proxy hezbollah israel killed that group's senior most military commander in a strike in beirut hours before the assassination to ron, i want to bring in retired brigadier general steve anderson and jameel jaffer, who was associate white house counsel to president george w bush, handling national security me issues. thank you both for being here, but the at this time, general and begin with you because the times is reporting about iran's supreme leader ordering a direct attack against israel do you expect that response? and what might that look like? >> well, i think that we saw back in april about 300 missiles were launched from iraq or iran rather that took quite a while to get to israel so that i think the next time that they do this, they're going to launch it from a place much closer to israel don't like lebanon, or it may be iraq or syria. but i would be really most concerned i think about an indirect attack on a soft

target. i think that they're going to be looking at terrorists type activity. i think that that's probably the most effective way to make their point i just think your israelis are too strong to fight toe to toe. and i think that they're going to look at some kind of a soft target. and i would also look at a terrorist attack, perhaps even the united states, because we have some afforded israeli every step of the way and they know that and they want to make us pay for it. >> are you suggesting that there could be something like that happening on american soil or you mean absolutely, i think it's something that we should be thinking about. i'd be most concerned probably with us troops already stationed in the region we have troops in syria, we have troops and qatar we have troops out in the med, in the red sea. and of course we had al-udeid airbase, places like that are american soldiers over there are exposed and that would of course put it in extreme danger right now but i would not rule out some kind of attack and the united states, god bless and protect our troops. absolutely my goodness,

thinking half or bleeding that robotyne, that response is and jamil, based on what the general is saying. it makes sense perhaps secretary of state antony blinken is urging qatar to appeal not only to iran, but also to hezbollah secretary defense austin is also urging for calm how does this even complicate the u.s.'s position in this entirety. >> we'll look at a lot of ways. it's pretty straightforward, right israel's attacked on october 7, 1,100 people plus people were killed, 250 people kidnapped. some americans still being held hostage in gaza. if you have an opportunity to take out the leader of the group that direct attack, you take it, you take it every time. and the nicest should back that up at the same time, take that shot in iran and tehran, surely provocative, but makes a point because at the end of the day, who paid for those attacks iran, who has been paying for that hezbollah rocket attacks on israel iran who has been paying for the red sea attacks by the houthis against international shipping. iran. so let's be honest iran got what a desert with an attack into iran. and the killing of

one of its proxy leaders. at the end of day. that's the bottom line. and so whoever else can get them on board with understanding if they keep doing this, this is going to keep happening. and so they should be surprised and they shouldn't respond because this is their own making on that part of strength and expectation. i do wonder if iran, given that somebody was killed in their own capital, that they will factor that into their response to have the proceed foreign bravado. >> well, they've got to think twice about that because you're israelis have shown that they had the ability to conduct precision strikes in the middle of tehran. and they took out he nia, they can also take out senior leaders in iranian leadership to i mean, the fact that they were opposed well, this office is absolutely stunning. laura you know, 1,000 miles away to be able to penetrate airspace no matter how they launched the attack, be it locally or firm, a long distance using precision guided munitions or some kind of a drone attack no matter how they did it, the fact that they were able to pull this off is absolutely stunning and it puts everybody on notice in that

region that israel has he capability to take them out all our eyes and minds are of course on the hostages and the civilians who are in the wake of all of this. thank you both so much. steve anderson, jamil, jaffer ahead. he was in prison for 34 for years for a murder that he did not commit. >> and then spent another week to add insult to injury behind bars after his conviction was overturned. now the man you see there smiling, christopher dunn, he is finally free and he joins me next it dissipated them are prosecution what's the greatest invention of all time, new hands-free sketches? >> for slip ends, you just slipped in and they're on it's like they have an invisible built-in shoehorn. so your foot slides into place so that bending down or touching your shoes, then he'll pillow technology keeps your foot coffee and secure, hands-free sketcher slip, thorn and

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introduce you to christopher dunn, who is finally a free man. he served 34 years in jail for a murder. he did not commit him just last week we spoke to his wife and attorney on the day he was set to be released from prison. i say supposed to be because he was not released last week and it was all because the state attorney general, andrew bailey filed an appeal to try and keep done, locked up, and just like that dunn was ordered back behind bars. let me just listen to his wife explaining how close he was to freedom last week he was literally 50 feet away from the parking lot and was dressed in civilian clothing that we'd prepared and picked out months before he was doing a final signature and in the meantime, gotten rid of all his property either given it away or heat actually thrown away his toothbrush just a few moments before knowing he would need

that toothbrush anymore. thank you. back done was initially convicted of first-degree murder for the shooting of 15-year-old ricco rogers in 1990. that conviction was largely based on the testimony of two boys who in 2018 said there testimony had and coerced after reviewing dense case, the st. louis circuit attorney filed a motion earlier just this year to vacate the guilty verdict. >> now after 34 years and won excruciating lee, i'm sure painful week done has finally been released from prison christopher dunn and his attorney from the middle west innocence project, tricia rojo bushnell, join me now mr. dunn. thank you so much for being here after 34 years. you who are finally a free man sir, what is it like to be on the outside now for as i like to say, thanks for having me what it's like to be out now is so

surreal is something that is very difficult for me to sit fully explained in words because my emotions like on ten. >> so it's unreal. this ai feels i can only imagine the joy, the mixed emotion at times. i mean, can you, can you take us all back to the moment last week you were i think 50 feet from freedom. u were steps from the parking lot. you were about to leave prison then you were taken back after all of the injustice you have experienced. can you take me back to what that moment felt like after china described it as being like on death row this exactly when it felt like it felt as ziv, there was uncertainty dealing with tomorrow and then taken it out and send me back to the general

population only to bring me back to execute me that's exactly what it felt like it was painful and i can't say how much that it got to the point where i just wanted to crawl up balled up exist. >> they'd beat about self how did you stop yourself from losing that hope? well, to be honest with you it's kind of, it's kind of difficult for me to say her that i have hope that the system i have hope that this outcome when it came about because i lost hope and assist them a long time ago when he gave up on me but what made me go was the fact that i don't know how not to fight for what's right it took them 34 years. to figure this one

out even though i can to explain to them from the first day but when you have others zeolite, that means more to you than anything, you will fight for them not just you self i'm going to remember those words. you don't know how not to fight for what is right, trisha, i mean, the words of mr. done it unbelievable and so poignant. take me behind the scenes here though, legally what has been happening over the last week to try to get him out and is this a done deal or is there anything that's on the horizon that could potentially put him behind bars again and have this nightmare continue. >> well, we believe it's a done deal at issue. what's been happening and what would happened last week as the attorney general's office has argued they believe they have a right to appeal a decision in this case. and this is the kind of case where the prosecutor is

the person who brought the motion to overturn chris this conviction. we don't believe the statute says that regardless they have in fact filed what's called a notice of appeal and are attempting to make that process which only the court will decide that question. but until then, chris is a free man. he has no conviction. he had no conviction a week ago when he was still in prison because the attorney general had directed the prison not to comply with the court's order this isn't the first time the missouri attorney general, trisha andrew bailey has tried to keep him behind bars even after the overturning of a murder conviction what's going on here i think that's the question we all would like the answer to. >> i mean, i don't think anyone i would like to believe that no one would want to keep it in as a person in prison. but unfortunately, we've now seen that not only does this attorney general fight every innocence case, fights the opportunity for even someone to get in to court, he is now fighting the very court orders that say someone must be released and in chris, this

case to courts actually found that chris was in isn't back in 2020. a court said he had met the standard for innocence, but in missouri, a defendant cannot use innocence as a reason to get out of prison unless your sentenced to death. and chris was not sentenced to death in 2020. that court said, i believe you've met the standard for innocence, but there's nothing i can do about it and fast-forward, another court finds that same thing, and the attorney general still fights i it's mind-boggling to think mr. dan, that you have been through any of this and that it was 34 years in the making. yet we all heard you standing outside that prison saying that you forgive those who were involved in your prosecution. many people hearing you aspire to have that level of grace that you have displayed. what makes you forgive you have to learn to the gear because as i keep saying, that if you hold

on to it you hold onto that anger that bitterness, the hate it was just consume you and i'm trying to move follow with my life and the longer that i hold on to what was stagnate me towards the past i would never be able to move forward so i had to let go of all the abilities, all the hate and a daughter. >> so you got to learn, forgive now, that said i'm going to forget what happened but i wanted to could give what's happened christopher, if i can call you that sir. what will you do now? what's your plan on how to live your best life? well, what should she just talk to you my life right now is the level because we don't know exactly what, will follow them after this appeal by the attorney general however, for

the moments that i'm here, i'm going to enjoy my life and in the process, if i can i would love to try to look looking to going back to college well i'm telling you something. i think so many people are cheering you, supporting you, and wishing only the best for you unbelievable and justice has occurred. mr. christopher dunn. sir, it was a pleasure to meet you and i'm glad you're home. thank you thank you trisha. thank you so much for being here and thank you all for watching anderson cooper 360 is next what would you like to pay for your hotel room today 185, 169, or $155? >> same room. >> same service, just different prices it's really up to you nobody asked you this a perception but that's exactly what you're vargo does. chavaga compares hotel prices

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