incredible runs public reaction and what does it tell us about what might come next anderson, it tells us that there is going to be a strong response. >> it is likely to be a direct response. it may well be in conjunction with hezbollah previously, we saw what happened back in april 3 hundred fred projectiles fired towards israel. this quick look different. it could look even more intense first award. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. that's it for us. the news continues right here on cnn outfront next, donald trump questioning whether kamala harris is black in front of a packed room of black journalists. we're going to speak to one of them. was there and just moments from now, harris will be responding live. and the veepstakes right now, rampant speculation over who kamala harris will choose new details we are learning

this hour about who will, and now we're learning. it won't be. and donald trump's nephew is out front speaking out, talking about trump's comments that he made to him about his disabled son. and does use of the n-word. and now he's breaking with the family going for kamala harris. let's go outfront good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. trump asking quote, is she indian? or is she blacked the former president during a combative appearance at the national association of black journalists conference went after the democrats presumptive nominee, questioning whether the first black president vice president of the united states it is in fact, black do you believe that vice president kamala harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman. well, i can say no, i think it's maybe a little bit different, so i've known her a long time indirectly, not directly, very much. and she was always of indian heritage and she was only promoting

indian heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black so i don't know if she indian or she blacks. >> he has always has a black eye recent college, i respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because he was indian well, the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a black just to be clear, sir i think somebody should look into that too. >> alright. said somebody should look into that too. and at this hour, trump is tripling down on the attacks against harris, just to be clear, harris's of other words you make and her mother was indian. she is both black and indian descent. and trump is now posting crazy camilla's saying she's indian, not black. this is a big deal, stone cold phony. she uses everybody including her racial identity. and that is rally in pennsylvania, the campaign showed headlines that identify harris as an indian american, will trump's appearance was 35 minutes at the nabj of nonstop

insults. it was a packed room. hundreds of journalists were there. he faced questions from three moderators from the abc news reporter rachel scott harris faulkner, a fox news and kadia goba from semaphore, who is joining us in just a moment. but firstly trump went off the rails almost immediately in this room, which by the way, he was there by choice. i mean, no one forced him to be there. he chose to be there as president harris was not there, he chose to go. and here's how it went from the first question you have pushed false claims about some of your rivals from nikki haley to former president barak obama, saying that they were not born in the united states it's not true. you have told for congress when women of color, who were american citizens to go back to where they came from. >> you have used words like animal and rabbit to describe i black district attorney's. you've attack black journalists calling them a loser, saying the questions that they asked, quote stupid and racist you've had dinner with white supremacy this that you're mar-a-lago resort so my question, sir now that you were

asking black supporters to vote for you, why should black voters trust you? after you have used language like that well, first of all, i don't think i've ever been asked the question. >> so in such a horrible manner first question, you don't even say hello. how are you? >> are you with abc? because i think they're a fake news network at terrible and i think it's disgraceful that i came here in good spirit. i think it's a very rude introduction. i don't know exactly why you would do something like that. i think it's very narrow all right. >> so that's how it started tonight. kamala harris's campaign is responding, writing the hostility donald trump showed on stage today is the same. hostility has shown throughout his life, throughout his term in office and throughout his campaign for president donald trump has already proven he did not unite america, so he attempts to

divide us now that was the written statement, but i want to be clear, vice president harris will be speaking momentarily in houston at a rally where she'll have the first opportunity to respond. and let's listen right now. trump at a rally taking the stage in pennsylvania, let's see if he addresses this he just took the stage and we didn't need anybody to get the people here. we didn't need its star we didn't need some entertainer and fill it up and then she goes on last night in about six minutes. everyone but what is leaving? they were pouring at wait and made that we've got our star. star is all of you people that are star, you, the star and i mean that hello, harrisburg a very special hello to pennsylvania. i'm thrilled to be back in this beautiful commonwealth. hard hardworking american patriots. >> thank you very much as you

know, this is my first return to pennsylvania this is our rally in butler. >> we're going back to butler too, by the way people said to me are you serious? i said i'm serious. we're going back to great place 18 days ago where we had a very terrible day when a rough day, i will tell by all accounts, i should not be with you today. i shouldn't be with you but i am i wanted to thank all of the people of pennsylvania for there extraordinary love and support. it is incredible. we're going to win this thing so big. >> we're going to win it big and putting everyone at butler memorial hospital, they were fantastic as sec wow wow, they saw they saw some pretty bad things thank you thank you know

they they did an amazing job and we have, by the way, we have the doctor or one of the great doctors was there it worked on cori actually was gori had a hard time bari is factual thank you, doctor. appreciate it very much great great doctors, great doctors, that job they did and david dutch and james copenhaver was just incredible and as you know, they brought them back from very, very seriously wounded. they were going to be maybe not with us, who is a group of us? >> but they are doing really well now, they're making it, they're going to be fine not going to be perfect. maybe but who is who? >> as we get older, who is perfect but the doctors were so great they had two great

doctors also. most of all, we lift the remember er membrane to the brave firefighter who were so cruelly taken from us, corey comperatore. corey comperatore very brave guy, loved by his family and his friends. you really love in his last act on this if cory threw themselves over his wife and daughters and died shielding them from the beloved, the bullets of the very disturbed guy korea a hero to all of us first, all of us i, want to thank a friend of mine to i'm not you got to mention his name because he's pretty well known and he came up to me. he said

would it be okay by presented corey's wife and family with a check and i said, yeah, it would be okay with me it's certainly okay. and he handed me a check for 1 million, 1 million thank you, dan so he was very generous in addition, we have a go fund me that's it's really been great i think we're that's six-billion-doll ar mark for the three of them plus some other people you know what corey's wife said. i'd rather have my husband isn't that good i know a lot of lives that would not say that i'm sorry they would not say that but now it's a great family. he was a great man who was a brave man. he saw what was happening and he jumped then top and he got hit but we will

carry korea spirit of love and devotion and patriotism with us for all time and we will never ever forget corey are as beautiful family and maybe let's have a brief moment of silence in memory of corey, great pennsylvania thank you very much. thank everyone beautiful that is the most quiet i have ever heard and arena i have never heard. you could hear a pin drop know it's amazing it's a beautiful thing in the wake of this

heinous attack we gather tonight more determined than ever, our resolve is unbroken and our will is undeterred good. nothing will stop us on our mission to make america great again, nothing is going to stop going badly all right you're listening to the former president of the stump there, i pennsylvania and we were waiting to see if he was going to respond directly to what happened today at the national association of black journalists in chicago with that incredibly combative and intense time there in that packed room, of vice president kamala harris is going to be speaking live momentarily. >> we're gonna bring that to you live as well, and we're going to continue to monitor this to see if he responds. in the meantime, our sara sidner with they're in that room and sara, what we're going to see if he responds in a very well may hear given what happened. but you were there. what what actually was the feeling in that room?

>> disappointment, sometimes shock. and frustration. i think those are the three things that you heard, sir. certainly, you know, your hearing, donald trump in front of a crowd of his adoring fans that was not what the situation was like. hear donald trump showed up to the nabj conference you know, giving credit for showing up, but he took some questions from journalists and the journalists had some very tough questions to ask him questions that the american public may want to ask. kim and he was here most believed, because he is trying to encourage more black americans to vote for him. but his performance may have done just the opposite. what's it donald trump's appearance at the national association of black journalists convention, turning contentious right from the beginning, look if i came onto a stage you're like this and i got treated so rudely as this woman coming. and i'm fine with it because she does issue is very rude, sir very as the

former president attempts to broaden his appeal with black voters speaking to a room full of black journalists in chicago, trump invoking kamala harris's race sleep questioning the vice president's black heritage. i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black i don't know if she indian or shibli. >> she has always i know as a black eye college, i respect either one, but she obviously doesn't because he was indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a black with running mate j.d. vance, drawing scrutiny for past comments he made about childless women trump was asked about his decision to pick the ohio senator and whether he would be ready to serve on day one. >> but you're not voting that way. are you voting for the president? you voted for me, if you like me, i'm gonna win if you don't like me, i'm not going to win on policy trump focusing his attacks on inflation and the biden

administration's handling of the economy, a top concern for all voters. >> say, what do i do that? and i drill, baby drill, i bring energy way down. i bring interest rates are down, i bring inflation way down. so people can biden bacon again, so people can buy a ham sandwich again. so the people can go to a restaurant and afforded. because right now, people can't buy food. >> the former president i also asked about his pledge to pardon rioters involved with the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol, if they're innocent, i would pardon them. they've been convicted by the way, the supreme court justice well, they were convicted by a very, very tough system. and in a case that has touched the black community deeply, and illinois mother shot and killed her own home earlier this month by a sheriff's deputy after calling 9-1-1 for help. trump saying he was unfamiliar with the specifics of the case. >> i don't know the exact case, but i saw something and it didn't love it didn't look good to me. it didn't look

good to me. >> so why should receive immunity while he might not i mean, it depends it depends on what happened i'm talking about people that are much different cases then that we need people to protect ourselves he was asked about immunity and he sort of wavered on that and you couldn't quite tell exactly what he meant, but i do want to address something that he said about kamala harris. >> kamala harris went to a historically black university. she also is a member of the first black sea 40 alpha kappa alpha. and has long presented herself as a black woman. so this lie about her presenting herself differently in times past is just it's just untrue i think perhaps the best thing that he did for himself was slow. erin. >> right? i mean why he chose to do that, i guess that's the big unknown. >> alright, sara, thank you very much. >> and i want to go well outfront now to kadia goba. she was one of the moderators you saw on the stage there and that

discussion with trump at the nabj and i know i could hear you're a political reporter. your report for semaphore so when you're sitting out there, trump comes out. he had chosen to come to this. obviously vice president harris did not come. he came he wanted to be there and then it started out as we just heard what was your reaction? were you surprised yeah, i was shocked. >> i didn't anticipate that because i've figured if the former president made the effort to come to chicago in front of a bunch of journalists, black journalists, he would anticipate certain questions. i was you know, i was excited to do the interview and then immediately sink in my seat. once he started essentially bashing the panel so okay. >> so you're saying there and he's doing that then i'm just trying to i was trying to listen as we were hearing those sound bites play a couple of times at one point, it seemed

like people were almost some were laughing, then they were clearly upset. >> how did the audience receive him? and did that sort of shift in those first few minutes you are right. >> they were very responsive to first his attacks but there will also some last throughout the course of the 35 minutes, there were audible gasp at one point, especially when he talked about vice president kamala harris not being black, which was i think to a room full of black journalists was sort of off putting, but also like confusing as well which is always presented herself as black, but it was, it was very interesting. the crowd was very responsive. >> yes. i mean, it wasn't as you because at one point i did hear some laughter and then then those audible gasps that you just referred to, there you obviously were part one of the moderators as you talk about sinking in your seat when you

realize how this was going to go you then of course we're asking questions and i wanted to play one of the exchanges that you had with trump, here it is. >> would you consider taking a cognitive test, mr. fortson, i would look at making public well, i've already taken two of them, but i'll do it again. >> mr. and i suggested harris that let's take one. i should joe and i will go and take a cognitive test now. i do it with her too. i would do it with her also, you know what? she failed her law exam. she didn't pass her law exam, so maybe she wouldn't passed a cognitive test just to your point, facts, she did fail the bar exam the first time she took she did pass it. >> then it was district attorney in san francisco, attorney general of california. >> so what did you make of that response in the moment also very surprising and i just immediately remember thinking, oh, is this going to be at an attack line on the campaign? i just i just didn't it was

surprising. i didn't know where come from. i also didn't understand where, you know, not calling her saying that she wasn't black. it was just very surprising. but i was happy we have politifact there to just got to push back, if not in real time online, right. >> to do the facts we surprise the state all 35 minutes given how this went yeah. yeah. we were promised an hour, but i it was clear that he had like sort of in a hard out, but obviously because you if you're going to pennsylvania yeah. >> no, i was i anticipated him to spend the time he in the time they actually told us he would have to depart, that he did that. i anticipated. i just didn't think that he would come all the way to chicago and not do this, right? >> and to come up with chicago and do what he did that that is what seems a bit confounding here in terms of the audience could hear. thank you very much. i appreciate it. and as i

said, there in the center, there a moderating that debate are monitoring that conversation with trump. david urban, and i ishmael's is with me now, is just so you know, you heard kadia he was supposed to come for an hour, but we saw for the 35 minutes, i just i just can't emphasize enough that he chose to be there he wanted to be there, and he took his time to go there, right. all of those things are true so what do you think is the outcome of this everywhere he goes there he is. >> okay. donald trump is going to donald trump everywhere he goes, he's going to be donald trump he has always been just disrespectful and had such disdain for the media first of all, for black people in general. and certainly for black women who are members of the media, you can just roll the tapes back and see how he's treated everybody pretty much he was black in his interest room, but specifically someone who was a friend of cnn april ryan, the nasty things that he has come out and said

about her. so i wasn't surprised at all that donald trump sat there and was so frustrated and just evil buhle to the people who were questioning him and expecting him to answer an account for himself because that is something that he doesn't do well, he has such vitriol and a horrible record boiling at anyone who ever questioned his judgment, who asked him to explain himself, who asked him to back up with facts. his positions is attitudes is beliefs, and certainly when it's coming from black women, he doesn't have any patients are tolerance for, and that's what we saw on display. >> david, what did, what did we what was the point of making a whole thing about whether kamala harris was indian or black when she's both and frankly has always openly discussed that she's both. what was the what was the point of that? >> yeah. erin, i'm not quite so sure what the point is. indian black what donald trump just said, her race is irrelevant. her gender is irrelevant. >> her performance is why i want to talk about her

positions are what i would talk about and it should have delved into those. >> he should have said, listen when he was asked what he did for why she black americans listening or trust him now, he got into it a bit and talked about funding to hbcus. and the first step act and lowest unemployment african community empowerment zones, things that his administration did stick to the facts he had yet. trump had a good record. the president had a good record as president where the african american beauty and he should have spoken about that. don't, don't get down and getting these petty grievances about things that are relevant when we're talking about about kamala harris dissent we're not talking about the things that matter to people. there hurt her policies. talk about whether she's for fracking, what that's going to mean to the people in western pennsylvania, whether she went to take your guns away and states let's have a debate on the merits. and i would have challenged ever said, listen, your journalists in this room. no one's asked her a question yet since she's been a candidate, i hope you ask her

some really tough questions moving forward. i think it was a missed opportunity i mean, there's no question. >> i mean, it sounds i should that that's true. and david, obviously is his analysis as somebody who sees the politics of this and the policy of this very differently than you do. but instead, we're actually now he's saying, well, she was she was indian and then she turned black. is that how we put it so just to go back here and this is i know david, you're frustration, but then we have to fact check it. so back when she was running last time, did she indeed identified only as as indian heritage or not. and so back in 2019 here's what she said about being black i'm black and i'm proud of being black and i was born black. i will die black. and i'm proud of him. and i'm not going to make any excuses for anybody because they don't understand okay i could go from that but i would say equally go back, pull

the tapes, look at the sacramento bee, which is i think the paper record, california touts you know, first indian american senator sworn in and the senate in 2016. >> i mean, there are, there are some articles out there that you can hang your hat on that says that she's she was southeast asian descent and really played that part up and look, she's she's i think i think he was moving when i say that she's right. she's boat. right? she's she's she's whatever at any moment i'm sure. like anybody when you think about where you came from, sometimes you feel more one of my ancestors my ancestors, or half italian, half polish on both not talking about ancestors that can we just talk about how ignorant this whole conversation is yeah. >> yeah, woman in america should be about ancestors off of a boat we're talking about a woman whose father was a black jamaican man, whose mother happened to be an indian woman. there are many people in this country who are by racial people who absolutely identify as the fullness of who they are

and the fact that you have someone who is a former president is running for president again, that is making a mockery of the heritage of anybody is really the fine point on all of this that we should be talking talking about here, it is ridiculous. >> well, i will say i i agree with you. it is, it is ridiculous. we're talking about it and not talking about kamala harris's record and president trump put himself in that position. so instead to hear tonight of debating her failed policies of the biden administration, we're talking about this and it's a distraction. is distraction in the american people object to the strategy, when it's ever talking about ai. >> so i want to give you the last question though, because j.d. vance came out and defended trump, but it defending was he raised one point that i want to give you a chance to respond to. he said well, harris offered to address the group virtually did not offer to go to chicago because her schedule could not accommodate a virtual or in-person appearance this week should she have made the time here's the thing. >> i don't speak for the harris campaign and what her schedule is, but i will just

say this. i think that i would just say shame on the national association no black journalist for inviting trump to have this platform period because everybody knew how this was going to go. now, if they wanted to have the vice president come and speak, they should have figured out by the other side of that. they're both running for president. why not happen? and he did to david's point, he could come out and make an argument and vice never showed up at the way this isn't the first time that donald trump was ever invited. he didn't actually show up in 16, 17, 18, like this wasn't the first invitation, but to your point about whether vice president harris is going to address them can address some come virtually. that's all a matter of their scheduling. the invitation was extended. she here's the thing though kamala harris has a very deep relationship with black media, with black people so this is not the be-all, end-all plant, maybe not worth her time farther time, but it's not worth their time. not worth their time. i'm erin not worth their time. are you kidding me?

>> well, you've got i said that to lightly, but you've got to make choices about where you spend your time and if it's a group of people, you know very well, trying to introduce yourself to others and it can't be represented johnson leaves funeral that is coming off this weekend, houston. that's what she's doing. >> all right. well, thank you both very much and next, trump's nephew is speaking out live outfront. he is now all in for kamala harris and he takes us inside the family dynamics of what he will describe it's trump's. he says cruelty towards disabled person in his own life and his alleged use of the n word plus new reporting tonight on how trump is reacting behind closed doors to jail diddy vance's history of disparaging people who don't have kids. and then a story you'll see first outfront pennsylvania officers are now speaking out for the first time, various at the secret service, accusing the agency of blaming them for their failures and the attempted assassination it's extremely misleading to the american people i, mean, it makes our guys look pink competent no application fee.

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ready to campaign for her, saying that she is the only person who could move the country forward. >> fred trump is publicly for the first time breaking ranks with his it's family. writing about his relationship with donald trump and his new book all in the family and fred trump is outfront with me now is fred i really appreciate your time. my pleasure i know that you've never publicly endorsed your your uncle's opponent before. >> you know, this is this is the first time that you have chosen to be public about this and speak out you've said you'll campaign now for harris if you're asked, so you've offered that can you tell me why you feel so? strongly about doing this and why do you feel so strongly about doing it now? and you didn't before when he was first running part of the family, just thought it truly was a branding exercise and he didn't think he was going to win and perhaps he didn't want to win. >> it was about getting his, his brand out there and he did when and we didn't i think he

could do much damage. this was new. i mean, he knows the wheels of politics, but certainly didn't think things would turn out the way they did. and now the reason i am endorsing kamala harris, things have gotten to a level of craziness that is unacceptable. and i firmly believe that our freedoms are on the line. kamala harris is the only one standing between his divisiveness and rolling back freedoms and democracy. >> do you speak at all to your cousins or have they respond to this? >> don junior ivanka, eric eric has put out a statement and he says things about me and that's fine. i just asked people to read the book and find out what the real story is. >> i want to talk to you about something you write in the book, there's a moment, you're young, someone vandalized is donald trump's car because that's the setup. and then

about this moment, right? you say n words is, this is you. i recall him saying disgustedly, look what the n-words did. and then you add quote donald hadn't seen whoever did this so it's two-fold. it's one that he didn't say who did it. he makes an assumption about who it is, what color they are, and then refers to them as the n word his campaign says this is a fabricated story. i just want to give you a chance to respond and tell me how this story has lived in your life it's the absolute truth, and i remembered as if it were yesterday he had a black roof, he had a role of electrical tape taping up the probably the slashes about this long, two of them and he was he was pest and again he just assumed it was black people who had done that around the same time, i had a bike stolen i lived in jamaica, queens and three young black

kids about my age took my bike. >> that wasn't going to put up a fight and the police called my mom and said we found the bike and the person one of the people who had done it. and she called donald because my father unfortunately was not around. >> we went to the police station and donald was adamant about the kid being thrown in jail, which i just couldn't take. i mean, he was a kid my age i didn't want to be responsible for you are we're happy. routine. i was ten i was back then. i didn't want to be responsible for this kid's life being changed flash forward 17 years or so? central park five. same thing. he has no evidence that those five young men were guilty of what they were charged with. yet he puts out a full-page ad asking for their execution. >> would you use the word racist? to describe him? >> i think he just believes in things that's racist. people say i wouldn't call him a racist, but he, he will espouse

beliefs? >> and by that i mean anybody who he he needs, hill hill take on and whatever it is and then he'll cast them aside. and to me that's that's really not the way people should be traded. >> so he he was talking about kamala harris today and race came up, right? he's talking about whether she's black or indian and the entire conversation seem to him japan that i'll just play that one of the main clips for you, fred i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black so i don't know if she indian are you black does that surprise you know, i wish she had said she's a woman set of whether she was black or india no, it doesn't surprise me that he was playing to the crowd. i assume from what i understand the reaction was

very mixed which it seems to be happening lately. he's is in many instances misreading the crowd doubt which is in some that is a shift from what we had seen before. i will find i appreciate your time and thank you very much. you know, as i said, i know your book out and families out now and you can read more of these stories in fred's experience with his uncle all right. next, vice president kamala harris is about to speak for the first time since trump questioned whether she was blacked that sound bite that i just played fred plus new reporting tonight about who from trump's inner circle is now bad mouthing j.d. vance behind the scenes. so it's inside the trump camp internal fire it is a name that all of you watching nowell course how do you sleep at night on a matches from at this firm? >> do you have a low price guarantee so isolated get

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the bosley guarantee rahel solomon in new york is cnn breaking news, vice president kamala harris expected to take the stage at any moment at a campaign event in houston? >> in texas. and we'll be watching to see whether she responds to what trump said today. he said that she happened to turn black. trump also refusing to condemn republicans, calling her a quote, dei hire how do you define dei? go ahead how do you

define diversity, equity, inclusion. >> okay. yeah, go ahead. is that what your definition? >> that that is a definite would you give me a definitely give me a definition there. >> i'm asking you a question to find the define it for me just to find it, sir, do you believe that vice president kamala harris is a dei hire somebody who really does that. i mean, i really don't know, could be could made. there are some arlette sines is outfront live from houston and arlette harris's husband died is coming to her defense size. >> we await her remarks. what is he saying? >> yeah, erin, second gentleman, doug emhoff is forcefully pushing back on former president donald trump's comments falsely? questioning harris his identity as a black woman? >> doug emhoff was speaking at a fundraiser in maine tonight, and according to the washington post, he said that donald trump quote, showed a worse version of an already horrible person. >> the insults the bs shows a lack of character, but it's a

distraction that guy i should never be in the white house. again, these comments coming from someone probably the most close vice president kamala harris, who yet has. to, who has yet to weigh in specifically please, on these comments from trump. now, harris, at this moment is at a fundraiser and that she set to speak here at a boule for sigma gamma rho, a key sorority of this part of the divine nine, a her campaign today did not directly address those comments from trump, but they did criticize his appearance at his overall comments at the nabj convention they tried to portray trump's comments as divisive and chaotic. michael tyler, a communications director for the harris campaign, said in a statement two today's high rate is simply taste of the chaos and division that has been a hallmark of trump's maga rallies. this entire campaign. now, tonight's speech here in houston will be closely watched. it's important to note the group that she is speaking to. she is speaking to sigma gamma rho, that is a key black sorority. this part of the divine nine harris herself

is a member of they black sorority alpha kappa alpha, also a divide night. she's here to try to bove allies, black women voters heading into this election. but the event is taking on additional significance in the wake of these comments from trump trump based baselessly questioning harris his identity as a black woman alright, arlette, thank you very much at that rally where i didn't momentarily we'll see the vice president harris and will listen to see if she responds to that. >> will listen with you would take that live also tonight, donald trump is facing growing questions about j.d. vance and downplaying the impact of a number two on his ticket historically, the vice president in terms of the election, does not have any impact. i mean, virtually no impact okay. >> that actually it's historically true, right? it's just you don't want to be in a position where would you just made that choice? that's the argument you're making. thinking about your own choice to state the obvious. >> it comes as the bulwark marc caputo is reporting tonight that former trump campaign manager, kellyanne conway, who is one of donald trump's most

steadfast supporters. is questioning trump's choice for vp and being accused by it doesn't top allies of actively bad mouthing vance behind the scenes. conway denies it, says, quote, comes to concern people questioning the vetting or selection of j.d. vance. the calls are coming in, not going out. >> so let's go straight to the bulwark. >> marc caputo who broke this story mark, i mean, obviously trump trump's saying, by the way, the number two doesn't matter, is not an argument that you want to be making when you just picked her number two. okay. so let me just ask you your reporting here on kellyanne conway how much of this is real, how much of this is stirring the pot well, i think what it really speaks to is this is up until this point, the trump 2024 campaign and trump's broader orbit has been sort of leak-free and internal drama free and we're starting to see that change. >> and we're starting to see trump world sort of look like the way it looked in 20 16, and 2020 and points in-between when

he was in the white house i can't say whether kellyanne conway is really doing leaking or not. she's denying it but there are so many people in trump's upper orbit and inner orbit who believe in that it speaks to this deeper truth that for the first time in trump's campaign, there are a lot of people who are communicating through their body language and their suspicions and their infighting that they feel like they're starting to lose momentum in their losing ground. >> yeah. i mean, that's that's what it would seem like, right. you start having that internal sniping when things turn weeks so that the fact that you're reporting it, that they're feeling that weakness, they're feeling that they're losing ground it is interesting obviously what's caused a lot of the issue with j.d. vance and there's been multiple things, but the comments about childless people are first and foremost among them kellyanne conway has spoken about this issue. i mean, he or she is back in december 2016 i would just note to you that some people have attacked meet our moms, but a lot of them who have attacked me are either childless interns born in the

1990s, the author, or i noticed women who have cats as their twitter pictures. >> i'm not going to really just lose my mind over people attacking me in 104 40 characters. i can assure you that all right. >> taylor lorenz, washington post reporter in her book, here's the deal said the unmarried and childless, i'm sorry. kellyanne conway said of tillersons, the unmarried and childless doran spends most days trolling other people's kids on social media. i mean, i got to say it takes a lot to find a fit there that the thing they have in common is childless cat ladies yeah, they seem to really not like cats. i wonder what they say about dogs. i'm more of a cat person to be perfectly honest, but joking aside, i think beyond sort of the cost of rhetoric, this points to a deeper issue in the public party, where they have increasingly talked about the need for people to have more children. in fact, j.d. vance talks about that and he says, look, that is where my comments should be read.

that's the context in which they should be read. the problem that vance is having, which a number of commentators both within the center and on the left are pointing out, is republican party policies overall haven't been very conducive to helping people have kids, raise kids, and be able to take care of them. and that's really what starting to cause them problems on the policy end. >> all right. mark. thank you very much. i appreciate it thank you. all right. >> and next, we've got breaking news at the middle east bracing iran vowing to retaliate. they direct attack, direct attack on israel plus local police in pennsylvania right now accusing the secret service of pointing the finger at them after trump's attempted assassination always consider ourselves partners in the mission of the secret service doug lima someone needs to customize and saved hundreds

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close observers of the regency israeli leader who now feels unencumbered by a us president who the were prepared for any scenario and will stand united and determined against any threat who is viewed in the region as a lame duck following his withdrawal from the presidential race. >> in the near term, the strike very likely disrupts the tenuous negotiations for a ceasefire and the release of the remaining hostages. president biden has made completing the deal a central feature of this final months in office. more broadly in ordering assassination strikes abroad, the israeli leader is showing his willingness to risk broadening the war a senior us official told me the biden administration views such a risk as limited. the assessment is that none of the players, israel, iran, or its proxies, hezbollah and hamas truly want a regional war on wednesday, white house senior advisor john kirby downplayed escalation fears. >> we relieve that an

escalation is inevitable and there's no signs that an escalation is it's eminent. this is something that we've been concerned about since 7 october. it's not like or brushing off concerns at all. we're watching this very, very closely. >> however, the reason history of the region shows that neither side ever fully understands the other's red lines as each side retaliates against the other. in increasingly aggressive ways, the danger of escalation grows to that point today, a senior iranian official tweeted undoubtedly, the israeli occupying regime will pay a heavy price, enter one final variable to the calculus benjamin netanyahu himself even some israelis questioned whether he wants to extend the fighting to delay any political reckoning for the october 7 attacks at home. jonathan dekel-chen is 35-year-old son, was kidnapped by hamas on october 7. he says hamas and the israeli leader don't truly

want peace and the stalling only helps netanyahu's political future. >> them as i could find, no legitimate reason other than to satisfy his domestic political partners to delaying any kind of progress, real progress soon after the october 7 attacks, as senior israeli intelligence official told me that hamas leaders could no longer feel safe. >> erin, anywhere in the world. and it appears that has turned out to be true with multiple strikes abroad, i will say erin, that if there is a potential silver lining, that there is some thought in israel that by taking out senior hamas and hezbollah leadership, it might allow netanyahu to claim some victory and then therefore move forward to some eventual ceasefire. >> all right. jim sciutto. thank you very much. i'm just reading the iranians are santos telling me there could not have occurred without the authorization of the united states. so we'll obviously see where this goes and more

breaking news tonight as we speak local pennsylvania law enforcement are furious at the secret service and they are lashing out over the accusations that they were responsible for security failures that allowed that gunman to try to assassinate donald trump. and they are speaking out tonight and they are warning that this could happen again. and danny freeman has the interview that you'll see first outfront it's extremely misleading to the american people when it makes our guys look in competent tonight, local law enforcement from western pennsylvania, pushing back hard against the u.s. >> secret service, who blamed them for not stopping a gunman from shooting trump we assumed that the state and locals had it we made an assumption that there was going to be uniform presence out there, that there would be sufficient eyes to cover that, that there was going to be counter-sniper teams in the ajr building and i can assure you that we're not going to make that mistake again detective pat young leads the beaver county emergency services unit, which had a

sniper in the ajr building on july 13, the acting secret service director essentially said we assumed that the local guys on the ground had control of this situation and we're not going to make that mistake again. >> what do you hear when you hear that comment i hear that the acting secret service director has no faith in local law enforcement and we have always considered ourselves partners in the mission of the secret service however that statement really hurts those relationships. detective young and beaver county district attorney nate bible, emphatic that their men followed secret service orders. >> so to me, you're talking about a building that was 150 yards away with a clear line of sight to the stage and for you to just say, well, the local guys have it. everything that was done there by any of the local guys was done at the

direction of the secret service. >> the point of view to local law enforcement leaders specifically took a fence when acting director of the secret service, ronald rowe suggested all the local snipers had to do was look out the window. >> i'm not saying that they should have neutralized him but if they had just held their post and looked left, maybe. and it's a lot of maybes there. a senator, a lot of maybes. >> it's like what's your reaction to that should one of your snipers? look left, was it that simple it was absolutely not that simple and the first thing that comes to mind is that we have not had any contact with secret service since i actually since the last election cycle the acting director to say that this is where our guys were in. >> this is what they seen is a misrepresentation to the american people we were never

asked what we seen or where we were from. secret service, detective young and da bible says this image presented by the secret service to congress is misleading. >> they say it reflects an angle their snipers did not have, and that their sniper was here at the far end of the ajr building looking straight out towards the crowd, their views in no way could have seen crooks without pushing their heads outside the window and looking back. the videos and the exhibits presented to congress are purely wrong. >> now, the concern is looking forward as president trump announced, he's planning another rally in butler county. can you confidently say that? at something like this will not happen again, if that happens i cannot say that at this point mean along