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also kurmasheva, and vladimir kara-murza are expected to land on us soil. this evening. actually kara-murza will be heading to germany, but the other three will be arriving at joint and base andrews. >> we want to share with you this photo posted by president joe biden on social media showing the released prisoners, families with him in the oval office. you see two young women, they're huddled over a phone extensively speaking with a loved one over the speakerphone there, the families then joined the president as he addressed the american people confirmed coming the elaborate and historic deal that he reached with multiple allies, at least seven nations involved in making this day happen and this is the first photo of the now freed gershkovich and whelan holding up an american flag shared on social media shortly before they boarded their flight home from turkey, which is where the swap actually happened standing between them, we should point out is russian american journalist alsu
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kurmasheva. she and prominent putin critic vladimir kara murza, who is a us resident, are all on a flight right now heading to the west as bianna pointed out, karamurza is headed to germany where he will meet his family at alito your point in time, let's get you to the white house right now with cnn's mj lee, mj, obviously a very emotional day. even jake sullivan getting emotional, the national security adviser talking about what these families have endured that's right. and that first photo that you just show it from the oval office really captures what a joyful and emotional mourning that has been at the white house. >> the president was in the oval office with these family members. and once they got the word that these four had been on the tarmac and ankara, that's when the president was able to get on the phone and speak with each of them and then give an opportunity for all of the family members to hear the voices of their loved ones as well as they were now safely out of detention of the
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president did say in remarks earlier that he very much planned to be at joint base andrews when these for arrive on us soil, i should say three corrections since three of them are going to be returning to the u.s but he's certainly going to be there to greet them as the end of their sort of tribulation really comes to an end. now, this was of course, really complicated and multi nations deal that in some way please has been years in the making, particularly if you consider how long paul whelan has been in detention and what's remarkable is that this deal was really brought in for a landing as president biden himself was really on the cusp of making this big political announcement here at home that he was ending his 2024 campaign. we had learned that one phone call he made was to the prime minister of slovenia, just hours before he announced the american public that he was going to be ending its 2024 campaign. and that phone call has now been described as
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having made the final piece of this deal fall into place. now, boris and brianna, as you mentioned, jake sullivan has been briefing reporters here white house about how this agreement came to be. and he did grow emotional as he talked about everything that this moment signifies and everything that went into getting this deal across the finish line. take a listen from the president on down. we've stayed in regular and routine touch with them i spent a lot of time with the families of evan and paul and all sue and most of the time, as you can imagine, those are tough conversations but not today. today excuse me today was very good day and we're going to build on it, drawing inspiration and continued courage from it for all of those who are held hostage or wrongfully detained around the world but as these emotions are running high again, at the white house and the celebrations aside, there's
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also been this somber acknowledgement of the work that remains. we should talk about, for example, marc fogel. this is an american who was sentenced to 14 years in labor camp russia. he had been teaching at a school in moscow. officials had said that they had certainly pushed for foegele's relief as a part of released as a part of this deal were unsuccessful. but jake sullivan did notably in this briefing labeled him as wrongfully detained. that is a formal label that typically comes from the state department and he did also tell our colleague, kayla tausche in this briefing that in getting this deal done, there was no direct contact with vladimir putin, but of course, the number of russian officials were involved in negotiating this. and us officials are very much stressing that none of this means that there is going to be a change in the u.s. russian relations, which of course remains credibly tense mj lee live from the white house. >> thank you so much. and we want to share with you a photo just in a new photo showing
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whalen gershkovich and kurmasheva on the plane bringing them back to the united states. all smiles on what is a historic and emotional day for these folks and their families? actually want. to discuss with someone who's had a personal stake in evan gershkovich being held in russia, and that is almar latour, the ceo of dow jones, and the publisher of the wall street journal. thank you so much for being with us first just what's going through your mind right now, especially seeing pictures like that of evan smiling and on his way back home well, it's a joyous day, not just for me, but obviously for evan, for his family for his newsroom family, for colleagues at the wall street journal on dow jones and i would say also for the community the off news media around the world, we've all worked toward this day four so long, each in our own way and it's wonderful to see it come
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together like this. >> today's it is a very special day. needless to say the almar that the journal kept such a spotlight on evan's wrongful detention. we saw this on the front page repeatedly we saw this in outreach to other journalists and other outlets, really keeping him top of mind, which in turn kept the focus on other wrongfully detained individuals as well. how much did that contribute to this release well it's hard to gauge exactly, but but we definitely know that putting a spotlight on wrongful detention makes it part of a broader discussion makes it front of mind for a decision makers and that facilitates done ultimately, more energy, more
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effort going into something as complex and delicate as this is hard to say exactly how much it contributed, but suffice it to say that the very topic of an assault on free press and needs to be part of a national and global discussion. >> we need to expose autocratic dictators who are pushing reliable information out the door often with violence or with incarcerating innocence. reporters like evan we need to put a spotlight on them. we need to condemn that. and this day is very joyous, but the task remains ahead to fight that with all our might it bears repeating that journalism is not a crime i want to share with our viewers this photo. >> omar, because you were with evan gershkovich, his family just before they went to the
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white house today. i'm wondering if you could share some of what the conversations were like, how they were feeling, what they expressed to you well the beauty of this day is that evan consumed speak for himself and a family can speak more freely. >> and so i hope you'll connect with them as well, but yes, it was an emotional moment. we obviously spent a lot of time but together often at moments throughout this 16 month ordeal, that we're a very intense said have been ups and downs this morning getting together for breakfast and washington, as we had before another moments that was a lot of humor comer but also heavy load of emotion in the room. a lot of hugs might general counsel brought tissues and i
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can confirm that those were used but it wasn't emotional moment for them and one that they deserve a deserved seeing. their son again and their brother it's a marvel to witness that and to be part of that with them. they have fought so hard and they were heroic our heroic and they're stoicism there resilience and their commitment to evan, but also to the broader cause. if traveled the world met with world leaders they made themselves available day and night to differ for their has caused and the honor of a lifetime to work with them. >> as the journal notes today that his fiercest advocate was his mom. so obviously a big day
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for his family and for her. i don't know if you were there, but can you give us i know you've heard about certainly how it went down. can you give us a sense of what it was like in newsroom at the journal when the news broke well i was in the washington bureau and so witnessed it on camera, but it was it was beautiful to hear the cheers. >> i know the emotional charge because we've had gatherings before where the news was not so good. the one year anniversary of evan being, incarcerated was a very emotional moment where we all got together that was very hard to mark. and so to see that relief release of emotion today was set great and it was somewhat similar here and washington porter's an editor's were also gathered we then had a global town hall and
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talk to all the colleagues at worldwide and that too is marked with emotion celebration an acknowledgment of how much people i sit in unless they invested there, time thousands of hours that have gone into the advocacy and the quiet and diplomacy thousands of hours of promoting his cause and social media reporting that has gone into this. and so everyone contribute we did to this lived with evan and his family toward this moment and here we finally weren't so it was beautiful to see, beautiful to be part of it. and can't wait for evan to come back and tell his own story and have agency again, which was taken away from him and tell a story that he wants to tell about himself, about
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russia. and about everything that he's been through. that's now up to him, not to two spokespeople for him certainly, omar. >> thank you so much for taking the time obviously, this is so meaningful to you the, ceo of dow jones. and certainly as a former news assistant at the journal in washington, dc, i know that you have paid so much attention and put so much into this, so we thank you for being with us today to talk about it. >> such a pleasure and thank you for your support we have much more coverage on the prison swap ahead we'll be joined by our panel of experts . ubi on the edge, moments that shaped our culture coming this fall on cnn, when i want to be in active. so why don't you act like a good sister and get
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directv. >> never thought i'd see the day or lifespans are quite short, extreme directv without a satellite dish, are you gonna do this thing with biden? >> nic just for a bit i'm natasha bertrand at the pentagon and this is cnn we're returning to our top story, the historic prisoner swap that is bringing home three americans and a green card holder. so let's bring in our experts to talk about this. we have cnn's chief national security correspondent, alex marquardt. required cnn chief national security analyst jim sciutto, and julia yaffa, who was a founding partner and washington correspondent for puck. jim just to you first here on the timing of what we are seeing, how are you seeing this with this exchange? >> it took a long time to get here, right? given the number of players involved, we know the administration was working to get the merits hurricane is released virtually from the day that they were taken right in this goes back years in the case of paul whelan, evan gershkovich concerns along the way about kara-murza's life,
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right? because they weren't just concerned that he would stay in prison. they were concerned he might die in prison. his wife certainly was, and of course, you have the case of alexey navalny. this is not an unfounded fear and caramel murza was twice poisoned before. so they're fighting not just for freedom, they're fighting to save lives here and they were really efforting this. and the number of countries involved speaks to the difficulty of this negotiation because it wasn't just one-on-one. the u.s. to russia, you had to bring in the germans, had to give someone up an fsb assassin who was attempting to kill on their soil, norway had to give something up. someone who is in prison for good reason, and they didn't get anything in return, right. and we were talking about this in the break that this is the nature of alliances in the joe biden view of the world, right? is that these are relationships that you form and you maintain over time and they aren't, they don't necessarily give a return on the day that i give you something you give me something? we build trust. we're on the same side and we're going to take care of each other when we can notably, alex. >> good. >> there were so many twists and turns of this with the administration trying so many different permutations i was
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told that you know, year-and-a-half ago, they offered to russian spies the ones that were being held in slovenia for paul whelan, and then evidence gershkovich was arrested and then they tried a different formula where it would be these two americans for, for russians adding to spies in other countries and to jim's point that the germans are the russians rather are quite adamant that they get back. vadim krasikov, this fsb assassin who was being held by germany and germany it was really holding out. they didn't want to give this guy up. the u.s. was shopping, if you will, for russian prisoners around the world to try to cobble together this deal because they knew that it wasn't going to just be between russia and the u.s. and in the end who was seven countries all together. and it took a long time for the u.s. to get germany to a place where they would give up krasikov, someone who is so important for putin, they both came from this, this kgb world is really important for putin to get him back. they had started talking about getting alexei navalny in
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exchange for vadim krasikov and then navalny dies in february. and so biden and sullivan and the cia director bill burns and roger carstens, all trying to push germany on the cross. a foot cough question. while trying to assemble this cast of other russians, they could exchange in the end, we're told the white house confirmed today that scholtz, the chancellor of germany, told biden for you, i will do this. so when we see sullivan and crying, i don't think it's just because of the emotion of the day and these americans coming home and that he's so close to this, but it's also because they'd been working so incredibly hard for so long to get to hear. >> it struck me though, julia, that when we saw sullivan and human he was asked about where this idea of making this a large-scale swap originate. he wouldn't give a direct response. he wouldn't give the united states credit for making this such a large deal. do you think it originated with russia well, we know that russia wanted krasikov to alex's
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point. >> he's a uniformed fsb officer the others were either assets are kind of working for the russian government. they were not as important to putin, who is a former kgb man, a former fsb man. and this is part of the draw of the organization, is that no man is left behind, behind enemy lines. he get everyone back and it did take a lot of effort for the administration to get germany to release krasikov again, let's remember what he did. he killed somebody at 2:00 p.m. and berlin, tiergarten, there were moms and toddlers around. i mean, in broad daylight and he has just he was just convicted of murder and was serving a life sentence. he was just convicted and i believe in 2021 or 2019, very recently, right and so they've really had to lean on the germans who had, who did not want to give him up to alex's point and to jim's point? >> you have a former president donald trump talking about alliances as basically like
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transactional racketeering style things, right? >> you give me something, i give you something. and nato is all about money and how putin can have his way with you if you don't spend 2%. and now his allies they're saying maybe it'll be 5% of spending. and this just shows, again, this is what alliance has are that it takes a lot of work you put in a lot and eventually down the line, you might get something. and i think this is also a message like i like what olaf scholtz said, that he would do this for biden, but would he have done this for 20? so that is the doubt way into vladimir putin's calculus. in this, we don't know but i would speculate that absolutely. >> i think what i've been hearing over the last few months for moscow, from sources close to the kremlin is that there's deep frustration and bitterness toward trump on one hand, they would love trump to win because as one former adviser to president medvedev told me once that they see donald trump as our wrecking
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ball. so he is invaluable to them and that sense that he's, they're wrecking ball from the inside. on the other hand, he talks a big game about sanctions, relief for the russians but then his administration rolls out more sanctions. he talks about no more aid for ukraine, no more blank checks to ukraine. but then he doesn't do anything in moscow's view to lean on speaker mike johnson and keep the ukraine supplemental from coming to a vote on the floor and people are still very bitter about that in moscow so it's kind of like, okay, you want to have a transactional relationship, donald, but what have you done for us lately? i then the second thing is sorry, the braggadocio. you see coming from trump. the way he spoke about the release of evan gershkovich, he said he said vladimir putin will absolutely do this after i'm elected before him sworn and we won't have to pay anything and he'll do it for me, but he won't do it for anyone else and i imagined vladimir putin sitting in the kremlin hearing that and saying, oh, really? nobody tells me what to do. i'm the
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senior partner here. i am not the lap dog. and so i see this as a bit of bird former middle finger that's right of the perception of the american first view of the world is perception as advertised by trump and his allies, that china and russia see him as fundamentally stronger and more dangerous to them when in fact, the read is, well at least for instance, on ukraine and taiwan, that trump is less likely to defend ukraine and taiwan a biden or even a old school republican administration. >> and it, when you say wrecking ball, right, that part of their intention is to weaken the u.s. and the weekend us alliances and the weakest weekend the, u.s. lead international order and they see trump is helping that goal more so than a traditional, what used to be a republican a by partisan view of the world, but does now have largely represented by the biden-harris can kind of view as opposed to the trump america first view of
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the world. >> but you know, i was, i was talking to somebody who is quite close to the kremlin a couple of weeks ago, about about this, about ukraine and about donald trump's foreign policy. and they were saying that the view and moscow is basically if trump is coming in there with this attitude of, you know, putting wouldn't have dared to invade if invade if i were president. and when i'm in office, he's going to do this and i'm going to get them to the table in a way, joe biden can't and this source said to me, you know, if that's how he's going to act, if he's going to act like he is so cool and so strong and so much stronger than vladimir putin. and the source says that is a big, fast road to nowhere. >> i wonder if this reconstruct some of that narrative that donald trump has tried to build, which is, you know, he tries to portray himself as the strong one. yet in this moment, this idea of building alliances with nato against say a russia or another foe of the u.s. that's actually the strength kowtowing to a putin is
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actually seen as a weakness. and here in this regard putin was able to maybe see it a different way. what do you think? well, i think julia's point about sort of putin wanting to flip the narrative on its head earliest trump's own narrative it is absolutely right, and we're seeing subtle jabs from the biden folks say biden himself, jake sullivan, and i'm sure we'll continue to see it about the value of the alliances. >> and these are things that they say all the time over this throughout the nato summit, a couple of weeks ago, this is something they truly believe, but it's also a jab at at trump who doesn't value this and when you look at this seven country deal today it's not just germany rush in the united states, but you've got to have the four others as well. i mean, it does take an extraordinary amount of coordination to get this done. and when you hear olaf scholtz say something like for you, joe, i will do this i think that really does speak to the personal relationships on the one hand i think the biden camp truly does believe in believe in this and they believe in the
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strength and health of these relationships. but it's also political season. we can't forget that we've got the democratic convention just a couple of weeks, so they really are, are painting a strong contrast here. and i should just note later on today, we're going to be seeing the arrival at joint base andrews president is going to be there. i imagine jake sullivan is going to be there. i'm not sure about harris, the cia director. i'm told is going to be there this is not sort of like past events when the prisoners came home in the middle of the night and they went to texas to get medical and psychological support. i mean, this is going to be a big moment. this is certainly a moment to celebrate, but of course, also it comes against this political backdrop. >> hugs on the tarmac. yeah, it's going to be powerful, will be alex, jim, julia. >> thank you so much to all of you. you still ahead. we're learning some new details about the role of vice president kamala harris in negotiating this prisoner swap. certainly the white house is putting a lot of details out there publicly. she's expected to speak any moment from texas where she will deliver the
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beautiful natural coverage. learn more at laura gueler.com newsnight with abby phillip. tonight at ten eastern on cnn we are following breaking news and new details now about what was going on behind the scenes to make today's historic prisoner exchange with russia happen. >> we're learning that president biden was working the phones on the deal, even just an hour before he dropped out of the 20 2024 race? yeah.
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>> and the white house has been putting forward details showing that vice president kamala harris was also a key player holding private conversations on the prisoner swap back in february with top officials. cnn's arlette saenz joins us now live from houston, where the vice president is soon to speak arlette first talk to us about her role in helping to broker this deal wellbore as vice president kamala harris today is celebrating the release of these three three americans and the permanent us residents. >> but we're also learning a bit more about the diplomatic role that the vice president had to play herself in this month's long process to secure the deal. now, the vice president posted on social media a bit earlier today celebrating this releasing so today we celebrate the release of paul evan all also volodymyr and others who were unjustly held in russia. it gives me great comfort to know that they're horrible deal is over and that they will soon be reunited with their families.
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she added potus and i will not stop working until every american who was wrongly, wrongfully detained or held hostage is brought home. we are also learning that earlier today, while the vice president was here in houston, texas, she actually spoke by phone with yulia navalnaya yeah, that is the widow of alexey navalny, who died while in russian custody earlier this year. now several staff who had worked closely with navalny were part of this release deal with russia and earlier today national security adviser jake sullivan had revealed that he was in fact part of an earlier iteration of a swap that the u.s. had tried to be work was trying to work on before his death in russian custody. now, we are also learning that the behind the scenes, the vice president did have a role to play on the diplomatic front. white house officials are citing two key meetings that she had at the munich security conference back in february 1 of those meetings? was with the german prime minister olaf scholtz, who the harris had
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been the working closely having this bilateral meeting. and then she actually asked staff to step out of the room and with a one-on-one meeting with staff from each side. and in that meeting, she made clear how the u.s. felt that the russian assassin krasikov would be key to any deal going forward. white house officials saying that she really emphasized the need for schultz to try to facilitate the transaction to secure ensure his release as part of any future of prisoner swap. we are also learning that the vice president had a meeting with the prime minister of slovenia where she adds outlines that there were two russian nationals that the u.s. believed were high priorities for the russian in any potential deal. and so she talked about the potential release of those individuals as well. it all comes as you heard, vice president biden a bit earlier today, stressing the importance of allies and partnerships. that is something the vice president's a likely will lead in on herself in the coming days as we potentially could hear more from her perspective about this deal.
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now, the white house has also said that vice president will be on hand when though because americans arrived here on us soil, president biden, vice president, planning to meet the two of them together at a time when both are celebrating the return of these americans back to there families here in the u.s and arlette harris is about to deliver the eulogy for the late congresswoman sheila jackson lee, who lost her battle with pancreatic cancer answer earlier this month. >> it's a big opportunity for harris to step into a new role as consoler in chief yeah, it'll be very interesting to watch how she embraces this moment at the vice president and the lake congresswoman sheila jackson lee, were actually close personal friends. >> they were both numbers of the same alpha kappa alpha a sorority. so this will give the vice president an opportunity to celebrate her life and legacy, but it also could be a moment for her to step into that role of consoler in chief. i will also note that there are several other notables who are here at this homegoing service
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for jackson lee that includes former president bill clinton and former secretary of state, hillary clinton both of the clintons spoke about her legacy in their remarks here at the service, but they also linked jackson lee's legacy to vice president kamala harris, both making a nod to their belief that she will be able to carry the torch of her legacy, carry the torch of a younger generation. if she is alive that did in november, we will watch this very closely to see how the vice president eulogizing her close personal friends, sheila jackson lee, and what kind of message she could have for voters it says, well, alright, arlette saens, thank you so much for that report. live for us from houston. and still ahead, we'll have much more on what is a historic prisoner exchange for journalists and dissidents. three of them, american won a green card holder freed from russian prisons. they are now on their way home along with the release of many russian
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a guest house. a source tells cnn, cnn's jeremy diamond is live with this breaking story. jeremy, what are you learning well brianna yesterday, iranian state media as well as hamas, were reporting that haniah was likely killed from some kind of a rocket attack. >> but have now spoken with a source who was briefed on the matter, who tells me that the hernia was actually assassinated using a bomb that was covertly planted in the guest house in which he was staying and it was planted about two months ago before this assassination actually took place and that's just a tremendous operation when you just think about the layers of security that had to be breached in order to make this happen. quite a remarkable situation and obviously a tremendous security failure for the iranian irans islamic revolutionary guard corps, which was responsible for running this guest house. so i'm told that this bomb was
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actually planted there about two months ago, and it was only detonated ones nia was confirmed to be in the room in his room inside that guest house killing him, as well as a bodyguard when that bomb was set off, now is israeli officials have yet to confirm or deny their role in this, but a hamas and iran have obviously accused israel of being behind this attack. and i'm told that yesterday, israeli officials was briefed us officials on this operation only after it had actually happened. it does not appear that the united states had any forewarning for knowledge of this operation before it happened. but obviously this is putting this entire region on edge in the wake of this assassination. we are hearing calls for revenge and there's calls for retaliation from iranian officials, as well as from hamas and hezbollah as well for the killing of its senior military commander, something that happened within a few hours of ismail haniyeh's assassination. >> jeremy, what israel isn't commenting on the death of that
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hamas political leader into ron. it did confirm the killing of a difference hamas military chief in gaza bring us up to speed on that yeah, that's right. >> the israeli military conducted an airstrike nearly three weeks ago that they say was targeting mohammed deif, who is the top military commander for hamas. he leads hamas is qassam brigades the organizations military wing at the time of for, over the course of the last three weeks effectively, israeli said that they had indications that he was successfully targeted, but they didn't know for sure. and i'm told that today when they came out with this announcement that they had confirmed that he was killed in this strike. they did so after learning just hours earlier through new intelligence that he had indeed been killed as a result of that strike hamas for its part, has neither confirmed nor denied this claim from the israeli government, which is interesting in and of itself. but obviously this speaks to
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the number of strikes that israel has taken over. the court course of just the last few weeks, taking out hamas's top military commander in gaza, taking out the senior most hezbollah commander in a strike and now also apparently in a covert operation assassinating hamas's political leader. it speaks to what these, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu described it yesterday as a series of crushing blows delivered against israel's enemies. but it is also those crushing blows that have put this region on edge. and that our putting israel in the crosshairs of those iranian proxies, as well as perhaps of iran itself boris. all right. >> jeremy diamond live for us from haifa. thank you for that report. still ahead. we'll have much more on this historic prisoner exchange that we have been following today. that is next stay with cnn monday. >> i'm so excited to be here in indonesia. >> this is going to be your future room.
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to come up with another solution. to get paul home. evan gershkovich was then arrested in 2023 at the end of march. and this added even more urgency to these us efforts to get them home. and we are told by national security adviser jake sullivan that these were painstaking negotiations over months and months months they involved quiet diplomacy among a number of allies scouring the globe to look for people to include in this swap. and perhaps the most important element, trying to convince germany to include this convicted russian assassin named vadim krasikov who was the key demand from moscow. moscow has made very clear for years that they wanted krasikov back and that they would not release americans until the germans did so, so jake said that this was a lot of efforts to have these conversations with german officials to get them on board with this deal. he actually met with evan's parents in the white house back in february, right around the time that russian distance, alexey navalny passed away and
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this help to them get to this point where they were really determined to get this deal in place that we saw today jennifer, i don't mean to put you on the spot, but you have been sort of the pr you bill you have been you've been the person talking consistently to paul whelan over the years, every time we have an update, you are the person giving us the update you were the person who has been on the phone with him. >> you talked to his family i want you to tell us how his family family is feeling. i also want you to just reflect on what it means is sort of what's on your mind as you're thinking after all this time that he is finally released well, it's rare, brianna, that you actually get to report on good news and today is one of the days that we are actually getting to report on good news, which is incredible. i've spoken to paul a dozen times over the course of his detention, and a lot of those times where around bad news happening being left behind and prisoner swaps feeling that the u.s. wasn't taking his case seriously. but in our recent
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conversations, he has shown a lot more optimism about the efforts that under that were underway. he felt like the u.s. was taking his case seriously and we saw that, of course, happily reflected in the fact that he and evan gershkovich and also criminal and vladimir kara-murza war freed today in terms of the family who haven't heard much from them yet, i can't imagine how overwhelming today is for them. david whelan, who is paul's brother, put out a statement saying, now is the time for paul to tell his own story. meanwhile, elizabeth whelan was there next to president biden earlier today at the white house as they were announcing this news that the americans war coming home in this massive deal, she has been a tireless advocate for her brother. so i have tagine today is absolutely overwhelming for her. >> yeah, absolutely. a welcome reprieve for what has been mostly dark news around the world. this is something very positive. jennifer hansler, thanks so much for it. 40 so vice president kamala harris is
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