first first lady of minnesota. have an office inside the capital oh she's been an educator for her whole career. she's worked on prison reform. she's worked on getting education inside of prisons in order to like, cut back on recidivism rates. she's been fighting for kids and for the community for a long time and lgbtq plus rights and she is going to be a secret weapon that people do not see coming. all right. >> coleman, i think it's possible that kamala harris lost the election today with her decision to forgo josh shapiro. can't be stated enough. there's no path to victory really without pennsylvania, she was handed on a silver silver platter, the extremely popular governor going to read pennsylvania that could get him getter that one extra percentage point that could determine the election. there's a chance. we look back on this as a huge mistake. >> see natasha, we'll see. i don't agree with that, but that's okay my call to action is that more teachers run for office people who have served, who served america's children, who know the weight of it, who

know the pressure that's experience that i think qualifies, love. >> teachers are out here. everyone. thank you very much. we appreciate you joining us and thank you for watching newsnight. laura coates live starts right now. >> we are the underdogs. that's vice president kamala harris told governor tim walz this morning when she phoned him to offer him the job of her running mate, harris, do exactly what she was doing when she used those words no one had her name at the top of the ticket, maybe a month ago. no one had his name. i'll take it at all, perhaps even two weeks ago and with about 90 days to go, they've got approved. their name should have always been there in the first place. now, leave it to vegas to decide whether the odds are against them or in their favor. but say harris is now betting that coach waltz, as she called him tonight, can help her run a political offense that can somehow pierce trump's

coalition and went over some of those critical voters come november much easier said than done. but tonight in philadelphia, >> tim walz will be ready on day one but don't forget, this is not just about a resume i mean, he looks good on paper, just doesn't in any context right? >> towards tell us the name that harrison walls actually hit it off during the vetting process. they had political chemistry and perhaps most importantly walls told the vetting team he had zero ambition to become president. >> now i find that particularly

intriguing the same could not be said about governor josh shapiro, reportedly came across this quote, unquote overly ambitious during the vetting process. still he tonight delivered a rousing speech, praise using this new ticket. now walls, it seems understands the assignment and has seemingly are inserted for quite some time now, voters, they want credibility as much as authenticity you know, it, you feel it. >> these guys are creepy and yes, just where it is, hell and make no mistake. >> violent crime was up under donald trump that's not even counting the crimes he committed in minnesota. >> we respect our neighbors in their personal choices that they make even if we wouldn't

make the same choice for ourselves, there's a golden rule. mind your own business that's a golden rule in golden book, my kids didn't have in their library, but i might add it. >> now reports suggests that jump the trump campaign is breathing. get this a sigh of relief tonight, they see falls is progressive record as a total political liability for harris and walls is a much easier opponent made thank you but is it sincerity? >> or bravado joining me tonight, former temp deputy communications director brian lanza, cnn political commentator, and republican pollster at christian sold these anderson and cnn legal commentator karen finney, also here, mehdi hasan, editor in chief. i was at io news who endorsed walls on the program, just laughed as week. apparently it was on his bingo card and former new york democratic congressman joe crowley, who i'm going to credit right now, is telling me over a month ago that you

thought he would be the pec. and so bravo, my friend, how did you know this was the right one? >> i just knew that the temperament that he has the comes from minnesota. he speaks the language born in nebraska he speaks a language i think of midwestern america and he brings that kind of, can do positive attitude football coach takes a losing team that won the state championship. it's like a movie being written right in front of us. so somebody's hearts being a slow. clap all of a sudden during this campaign, it will be a friday night light. third of movie no doubt, but the thing is that i go to him for 18 years. >> i saw him perform in the house representatives. i saw as the chair of the veterans committee, i saw him pass legislation on behalf of veterans that that's coming to light now that he's given credit for so he wasn't a backbencher. he was also who someone who participated in the democratic caucus. i was the chair at one point. i know you

have people talk all the time. it kinda turn them off because he hit the wall time tim was very smart about how we would address his colleagues and was always always respected. >> many how do you see it? but as you you also, you were advocating for him. i think you were saying that you were all in and thought it was the right choice, but there were many people who were talking about a hold on. it's in philadelphia. that means it's a shoe in for shapiro ignoring three of philadelphia in american politics and none of the constitution. let me ask you, what do you think now that it's out there? and of course first republicans have already tried to seize on this and putting trump saying, thank you yeah, coming, they're going to try and season. >> i never buy this. this is good for us not since trump also, i think posted today, volz brings hell on earth. unlike anyone has seen the guy hell on earth is not when you think, when you see him holding a piglet while hugging children after he's guaranteed them free school meals one, of the things i pushed i mentioned to you last week was his record. joe mentioned his record on the house. his record as a governor, i know appeal to kamala harris. that's the kind of record she wants to have in the white house where he's

passing, securing abortion rights, expanding voting rights, expanding child tax credit, getting gun-control legislation done, free school breakfasts and lunches with a one seat majority 30 in the state senate. it's a phenomenal record. it's the record joe biden almost got to had it not been for the manchin and sinema of this world. and i think that's what she wants. she also, as you mentioned, the intro, she gels with them. they look good together. they have a rapport. he's going to be the attack dog. i love all that stuff. we just watched. i've love for my hat off during that. >> well, let me ask you, and i 20 bucks as you said this is good for us. ryan let's listen at the end of the day, you've known him for 18 years, you congressman you some evolve from a moderate democrat to a radical leftist as ran for governor of minnesota. >> him and he ran as a leftist politician for governor of minnesota. he's certainly, he's certainly ran away from the nra, who previously endorsed it's done when he ran for congress, he supported sanctuary cities, he supported legal, he supported you. what is it amnesty for illegal aliens. he supported health care for illegal aliens.

that's outside the mainstream of americans, certainly outside the mainstream of the midwest. so it's great that they chose a midwesterner. they just chose the furthest left of the midwest. who's going to not going to moderate calm was going the continue to push it to the left, which is her problem. >> is it outside of in your a pollster? is what he's describing. something that's anathema to the mainstream voters, so to speak, will right now the trump campaign in my view, is still trying to settle on what's their primary line of attack going to be against kamala harris and it seems as though with this pick, they're now going to be nudged more toward she's far left. she's out of the mainstream and more ideological approach. and what i wonder is, do voters think of a term like moderate as being about ideology or about temperament? i think about a clip where governor walz said socialism is one man's neighborliness it's the sort of thing where if you're thinking about it purely ideologically, well, that sounds like a really nice spin on socialism. that sounds like maybe pretty far to the left. but talking about late

neighborliness maybe doesn't code as political extremism. and so i'm going to be interested to see do voters look at things like that and think? wow, his views and his policy positions are very progressives really love him for that. maybe he is too far to the left or do they say, you know, he's more moderate coded because he's talking about hunting and fishing and all those sorts of things. >> he's also doing those things and living that life. i mean, the thing about tim walz to me, he's just nor like he just seems like a nice, normal guy, even tim pawlenty earlier this evening said, he's a good guy, right? they may disagree on policy, but they these genuinely a good guy. and if my friend byron wants to have a conversation about how donald trump wants to use government to enact his retribution agenda. and tim walz says, hey mike i job as a governor was kids don't go hungry putting $545 million back into people's pockets which is what? well, if you want to talk over me, that's fine but he

did it. the child tax credit, which supposedly j.d. vance favors. we're securing reproductive freedom are women. these are actually mainstream ideas. $35, insulin capping those costs that people want, that those are not liberal ideas. but i think as many said, like you look at him holding a piglet or that video of him on the ride. but daughter that's not the boogeyman is going to come still your halloween candy for having said is holding a pellet the new kissing babies the pancake breakfast happening, right. and i think that's where we're but i want can you address his point though, because it's traqline. she was giving a list of things that are attributes she believes to this candidate. and as a running mate you pointed out sanctuary cities, which strikes me as what would be a knee-jerk reaction to try to undercut that. how does he counteract it again? >> and i think they have a conversation about what have been the policies of the biden-harris administration when when you join a ticket,

you say, i'm going to back my the number one, right? that's the job above the number two. and if you look at what has happened under the biden-harris administration now, we're seeing a number of the things that president biden has done. we're seeing lower crossings, we're seeing i think people still want common sense humane in full comprehensive immigration reform. i think you have that conversation and again, i think he can talk about what was the right thing for him to do for his state and what did his people want versus what's right for the country. >> also say that it's one of the top states in the country deliver right now. number five, with a fundamental assault in business and to do, i would have thought administration so montana so got to be very clear different. >> m go ahead. >> but think about it that i think that's something to really hang your hat on as the governor, he's he takes all the bad news he has to take the blame for that. he should get the credit for the somewhat

good stuff as well, that it's a wholesome place to live. and i think he's one of those kind of like kitchen table he will kinds of people that he tells you exactly how he feels, what he's thinking. now, people often miss took him and eye on the house floor. i'm five feet, five inches tall on him. is that a lot better looking? but now i really appreciate it more he timmons he's that kind of he is what he is and i think that's something refreshing in american politics. we haven't seen that for a long time. >> hold on one second. we have some breaking news coming out right now because congresswoman bush losing her congressional seat and missouri's first district so-called squad member, faced a fierce primary challenge from democratic opponent wesley bell. that's after his campaigns on influx of cash from the israel aligned to per pac, a pac along with other similar lobbying groups together, a decade more than $8 into the campaign, making this one of the most expensive house

primaries in history. we'll have more on this story later this hour. our many, this is interesting news. what's your reaction as you mentioned, just said, one of the most expensive house primaries in recent history, the most expensive of course, was jamal bowman, who just lost a few weeks ago to canada, also backed by aipac, superpac, we talk a lot about democracy on this show on our networks i think if we're gonna have a conversation about democracy, have to talk about the role of money, unlimited money, dark money in our races. >> $23 million. i think spent in jamaal bowman's race, eight-and-a-half million dollars by the united democracy project here. but that's an apac aligned super pac which gets a lot of money from republicans according to politico is the biggest source of republican money in democratic primaries. so the system has to be fix. you can like cori bush, abdullah get a lot of people don't like would you like or not? i don't think anyone is okay with a system where you spend these groups spent millions and millions of dollars on an issue that clearly what's your reaction given not only the money, but also this is somebody with her particular viewpoint. son is one of the progressive members of the house now losing her seat. that in addition to now jamaal bowman well. i do agree.

>> i think that money plays a terrible role in terms of the election and the election process. and i think that citizens united i was a horrible decision by the supreme court. there's really setback the american body politics in terms of, you know, i think the person shield forced against she wants to deceiving the records are probably going be very, very close, very, very similar as mike yossi's is very, very close as well. so in that sense, it's not that, but i think it's more of a push back on maybe some of the extremes that we're seeing in the far left or the far right. i think we're seeing a pushback further and the democratic caucus then unfortunately i wish i wish we'd see more pushback on the far far right and these people who are bowed down to the dear leader of a time, you don't see that really happening on our side, we push back more on our side. >> ryan get reaction. >> it was like, listen, i think it's a good thing i happen to work for citizens united. i support speech. i think speeches important thing of the constitution and we don't have enough of it in our campaign.

somewhere to defend that, but listen, she she she was out of wax with their district. you shoot. she picks them very powerful enemies that came back and sort of pushed, pushed against her more successful against that. i mean, that is the democratic process. you pick your pick your enemies, you pick your friends, you pick your alliances, and you let the voters choose and she picked she was very anti-israel. so i mean, she's very much an anti-israel member of congress and that's what you see. you see, you see the israel the pro israel people in the united states sort of flexing their muscle and saying enough of these types of candidates in the democratic party, we need, we need somebody who's going to work as a consensus, not continuing sort of move the party to the far left, at least that's what i've seen and the voters have made the decision today. >> karen, i hear you're reacting. >> well, i'm not going to speak to the particulars of this race, but one of the things that i think we have lost in this conversation about having just spent a week in the west bank and in israel is there should be no issue with

saying i am pro the palestinian people. i am anti hamas, which is evil. i am pro the israeli people. i do not think that prime minister benjamin netanyahu is making israel safer and we've sort of lost some of those that part, those nuances in this conversation. and it's, and it's become just very your pro, or you're anti know, i'm actually the people and i'm anti people who use their position to hold onto power to escape being held accountable really quick, i wonder if you, kristin, it. >> did voters here are pulsar, devolder, see the nuance, and isn't an either or and assessing how they feel about candidates on these issues. so in general, this is not an issue that is a top issue for the vast majority of voters, but you are seeing it pop up in democratic primaries as motivational. think about the uncommitted movement during the democratic primary, where within the party, when biden was still considered these incumbent president and he's

going to be renominated there was a movement to try to make the case. no, we think he's wrong on this. so it's the sort of thing that i actually don't see making a big difference with swing voters, but it's certainly is playing a role in terms of motivating democratic progressive voters. >> well, certainly as motivated in this pecker democratic primary standby, everyone ahead. we'll talk more about this and look from a high school teacher to now, a vice presidential running mate and candidate, how did tim walz go to where he is now and will his folksy sort of minnesota background help democrats in november or not? next, a friend who went on morning runs with him in congress. i'm talking about beto o'rourke. he joins me in just a moment when his my allergies freaking if you can you need ask the pro as to its faster roe, eight times faster than flonase. it's faster faster, faster. >> well, it's mom to you as to pro starts working in 30 minutes. as to pro and only

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trademark been western flair. >> it was a critical moment to define who he is and what he stands for. because up until the past couple of weeks, maybe you have never heard much about him joining me now is someone who knows tim walz well from their time in congress together, former democratic congressman and presidential candidate, beto o'rourke. thank you so much for joining us this evening. i mean, you know, governor walz, you went on runs with him. i understand you talked music with them. you both served in the same committee, the veteran affairs committee hot effect them to handle this rule well, let me tell you a little bit about the time that i spent with tim and congress the house veterans affairs committee is where members of congress are sent as a form of punishment few, if any, choose to be on that committee because there are no pac dollar to be raised, there are no big ribbon cutting ceremony. >> it's not sexy. you don't make the headlines in the newspapers. but tim was one of those rare members. one of these rare human beings who

wanted to be there because he wanted to help and serve those who had literally put their lives on the line for this country. i think that has something to do with his upbringing, with his character and the fact that he served 24 years in the army national guard, leaving as a command sergeant major, i think the highest enlisted rank of any member who's ever served in the house of representatives that says a lot about tim walz to me and to the countless veterans that he served across this country. and yes, we got to know each other as friends. we sat next to each other. we talked to music, the replacements, husker du prince, bob dylan, lizzo, all the great stuff coming out of minnesota and early morning runs. and i remember distinctly it being freezing cold in february in dc, single-digits. and i show up in seven layers. everything that i've got on because i'm a kid from the desert southwest and el paso and tim walz is standing there in running shorts and a t-shirt, just

ready to go. the guy is as tough as an ox and the kindest human being you'll ever meet. and as joe was just saying earlier he is the person that you see up there when you talked to him privately. he's just as folksy. he's just the same tim walz that you see up on that stage or behind that microphone. and the reason that most of us have never heard of tim walz unless we served with him or unless we live in the state of minnesota, is a guy is not a blowhard. he's not a bloviator. he's not a grandstander. he's not touting his own record. he's just getting the job done. and i saw him do that for veterans day in day out first guy in the committee hearing, last guy to leave shook every witnesses hands, listened to all the veterans service organizations and got legislation passed and yet after what you've described, there are right-wing critics who are hitting him hard on his military record there saying he should be crazy as these never been deployed to iraq and contrast with senator j.d. >> vance, who did deploy, as you mentioned, he served 24

years the national guard. so what do you make of this particular line of attack with respect to your friend? and of course, the governor of minnesota it's an extraordinarily weak line of attack. >> this guy put his life on the line just like everyone else had no idea where he would be deployed to what would be asked of him. but signed a blank check to the united states government said do with me what you will. that guy in his service in the guard was there to respond to his fellow americans and minnesotans in times of national disaster when neighbors needed a helping hand, something that he talked about today in his speech and you add that to his exemplary service as a high school social studies teacher, a football coach, and when he was making fun of himself for looking older than kamala harris, even though they're about the same age, the years that it took off him to be the lunch room monitor at the high school where he taught. i mean, this guy is all about now community. he's all about family. he's

all about doing the right thing. and he's been the most consistent person that i've known in my time in public service, and i've known him over a decade. and i think he's the perfect contrast to perhaps one of the biggest frauds to ever hit the scene, j.d. vance, i who knows what that guy really believes or who? that guy really is at his core. he's been so many different things and he's just become a trump lover in his most latest incarnation, tim walz is tim walz in tim walz is all about serving the people around them in the guard as a high school teacher, a member of congress, a governor. and yes. now, as the next vice president of the united states of america, well, but he has said that he is excited, can't wait to debate senator j.d. vance. and of course, the critique that j.d. vance has experienced is about changing. he would call it an epiphany or a revelation, maybe a change of heart that should be praised and applauded. you suggest that he is a conformance in that respect? but i am wondering

what you make of the potential matchup in a debate between the two, particularly given that you know that the issues on the border are going to be top of mind, they're going to be a very important aspect of any debate at any evaluation by voters harris is trying to appear tough on the border. republicans are attacking her record while supports a path to citizenship for some undocumented immigrants. but not much is known about his views on border security specifically, what can you tell us about this pairing on that issue? >> i cannot wait for this debate and specifically on this issue, i think governor walz is going to be able to show this country that president biden and vice president kamala harris worked with democrats and republicans alike. to put forward one of the most comprehensive border security and immigration proposals at this country has ever seen. they got buy-in from hardcore right-wing republicans. it was ready to pass and it was

spiked, it was blown up at the end of the day by donald trump because he doesn't want the solution he doesn't want to solve these problems. he wants to be able to run on the problem. and that's jd vance's record as well. so tim walz kamala harris, joe biden have offered the american public solutions to a problem that we've had long before. joe biden was president, before even trump or obama. this has been with us for the decades since it's we last had comprehensive immigration reform you elect kamala harris and tim walz as a president and vice president. the united states of america. and i promise you, they will make this a priority and they will get it done. >> you have to wonder how they will articulate that to the american public, as many states feel that they are increasingly becoming so-called border states with the influx of migrants and there is polling to suggest that there is not much confidence in democrats ability to get the job done, but they'll have to make that very case. let me ask you, harris and walz. they have now how raised $20 million since the vp announcement that was

like less than 12 hours ago. well, maybe a little more than 12 hours ago if my math is correct, there's a lot of enthusiasm. in other words, but we saw what it took to get here. it took biden stepping aside it took a decision and coalescing around the vice presidential pick as the top of the ticket about the delegates as well. how are you seeing biden's decision today you and i would not be having this conversation, but for the selflessness and the courage of president joe biden, who put this country before any interest in including his own and help to elevate the vice president that he first selected in 2020 and historic decision back then that is making possible and historic future for this country going forward. >> so i just, i just want to say i'm so grateful to the president for what he has done and what he has made possible. but to your point about the money raised, i think it's a reflection of the enthusiasm

the energy, the electricity that is coursing through the democratic party. and really the country at large right now. i mean, at that rally in pennsylvania, you saw smiles on people's faces. you saw joy in that room. that is not something that democrats have felt recently. it's been a long time since we've had something like this, a future that we are so excited for people willing to work so hard for were registering voters across the state of texas with a group called powered by people right now we have had hundreds of new volunteers flock and just today saying sign me up to be a volunteer deputy registrar, get me in front of young eligible voters that we can add to the roles we want to put texas and play and make this competitive. i mean, just a couple of months ago, people were talking about perhaps a total wipeout for democrats in remember election. now, we're going on offense everywhere. and that starts with president joe biden. and the extraordinary campaign that vice president kamala harris is running right now, including

this amazing pick that she made an announced a day of tim walz of minnesota well, we shall see how it all ends up. we have been 90 days until the election day. better work. thank you so much thank you. well, we just spoke about some senator, j.d. vance attacks on governor walz. but what's trump saying about him we'll discuss next? >> violent earth with liev schreiber, back-to-back episodes sunday at nine on cnn you're the leader was asked to clean up and restoration how do you make like it never even happened happened right whatever comes your way.

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today. >> the word they're landing on radical did just highlights how medical kamala harris is. this is a person who listened to the hamas wing of her own party and selecting a nominee, kamala harris, just doubled down on her radical vision for america by tapping another left wing extremist as her vp nominee, tim waltz will be a rubber stamp or kamala's dangerously liberal agenda trump going a step further a tying supporters in an email that walz would unleash, quote, hell on earth, my panel is back with me right now. >> let me first begin for a second here though just the optics of this mean you now have brian, a newly announced ticket. it's now going to be the harris whilst ticket. we are the republicans. and yet you see j.d. vance going around actually campaigning and rallying. trump has not done anything all week. he has one rally and that's in deep red montana. why is this strategy needless, i'd say the strategy

right now is for them to raise money and that's what trump's doing right now. >> he's i happen to know the schedule. it's a very busy schedule raising money montana there's a great place to raise money, apparently. but i mean this and this is jd's job. i mean, this is the job of a vice presidential nominee to be the attack dog. and that's what you're going to see. it's you know, trump trump is different in the fact that he became the attack dog for himself. but if you remember the politics before trump, it was usually the vp was either chain or somebody else that was sort of sticking the knife to the opponent and that's where you can see jd we continue to do. and by the way, there's plenty of ammunition. they have. i mean, at the end of the day, that dynamic, so the race are still the same. inflation still devastated in the middle class, the biden-harris administration have no answer for that. you still have immigration, you've been flooded by the border, you have 15 illegal, 15 million illegal aliens, illegally, and who have come into this country, the biden-harris has no answer for that. you have wars in the middle police have wars in ukraine, you have other war started like the dynamics still exist even though they've changed the main course. it's still a problem for them, karen, i'm watching you literally like move your hands and trying to find those are great talking points. and i'm sure we'll hear them more

actually, i'm not going to do that. i'm going to say that i think it's an interesting choice to see j.d. vance going after tim again, this language that he's just this radical, liberal. i mean, he just doesn't look the part. he just doesn't. i mean, they're going to have to get some better camera work or something. i think the more people learn about tim walz, the more they're going to like him, the more they're going it feel confident that come on harris made a governing decision. she decided that because the vice president in the constitution has one job be ready. that's it. that's all you got to do. however you choose to be ready, you just got to be ready if something god forbid happened to her. i think people will see. yeah, we feel good about tim walz leaving if something should happen to balance trump, who, by the way, now the way these two tickets have been sorted out, he seems even older than not what we were talking about before with joe biden in the race really jd the vance,

who's been in the senate a minute, who has no foreign policy experience, granit, he's served our country. that's admirable but he has i know what relationships does he have with world leaders? how would he manage any of these crises? how would he, what does his answer? we don't know because as others have pointed out, he's kind of been all over the map. >> what do you say to this characterization? payments says radical liberal on, and i do know what the camerawork to really put you right in the face of the person. i mean, that's the criteria to be radical. it's got to be camera work right here. dark pictures. >> you look, i've known tim as i said before for a long, long time he is what he is. he's decent, he's honorable. he's a person of character he's a lot like joe biden, i think in many respects he tells it like he sees it. and i think that's what really scares trump because trump has none of those things none of them i don't know jd vance enough, but trope i know i've known for a long, long time. i don't know him personally of momentum, but i know i know his character for new york city and tim is the exact opposite of wholesome,

someone who has flipped on a farm, someone who lost his dad and early age didn't get $70 million invest in some in some couple of corporations by his mom and dad. this is a guy lost his brother sadly, it's people he's, he's no tragedy. he's known laws. he's known struggles of his own person the life that he's overcome, he's got a wonderful wife in gwen, had beautiful children, hope, and gus, just a great family. i think that's what he brings to this, but i think people going to learn about this, you could arguably say a lot of those same things about j.d. vance, right? lovely wife, lovely family came from hard beginnings, has experienced lots of personnel they'll tragedy. i will be interested to see how the campaigns use these two men who are very different in many ways to try to appeal to the same kind of voter interestingly, i feel like the big ten suburban dad is now the key swing voter in this election. and so you've seen j.d. vance already been deployed by the trump campaign to go talk especially younger men. i will be fascinated to see does tim walz pop up on

every football podcast under the sun this coming year, they are both fighting for the same kind of key swing voters that they all want to get on the kelce brothers podcast, reasons that might run with baylor miffed think looks like me. >> can have the same position as is tim walz, and not just fall back that i have to like donald trump or i have to be like j.d. vance. i think that's refreshing for midwest and for the rest of the country as well. although you better looking at, you remind much better when we i mean, one thing has been said and then we'll just gonna leave it there full. stop. there you go. >> but i want to ask you, maddie, because as you pointed out, governing the decision that she made is also being used to criticize her and her viewpoint is democratic party. >> they're talking less from republican side about tim walz and more about the decision not to choose. josh shapiro is the governor and the word anti-semitism is coming up as some basis to substantiate that criticism what's your reaction i mean, it's one of the most

it's one of the dumbest and most dangerous lies that we've heard from the republicans in recent days. >> obviously, the call went out, whatever right wing whatsapp group because they're all doing ari fleischer, newt gingrich, they will be like nikki haley, ted cruz ever it been piling in, but it's anti-semitic. i think erick erickson said today there's no jews at the top of the democratic party the allowed to which chuck schumer responded news to me and it's not just the senate majority leader who is jewish democrat by the way all ten jewish senators in the united states senate, democrats 24 of the 27 house members who are jewish are democrats. all for governors in america who are jewish or democrats? the secretary of state, the treasury secretary, the attorney general, the homeland security pretty secretary. and the second gentleman are all jewish democrats. so it's a nonsense lie. that's the democratic party's record. look at the republican party record. vance is saying this is anti-semitic. the guy is running alongside donald trump, the most openly anti-semitic presidential candidate. we've seen in our lifetimes. this is a guy who hosted a holocaust denier for dinner. it is homeless than two years ago, who says, american jews? it's a disloyal to israel constantly says that who famously praised nazi saying jews will not

replace us has very fine people who last week was on a radio show where he agreed with the host calling doug emhoff, a crappy jew today equaled adam schiff, shifty schiff republicans willing to sit this one out. i mean, vance himself has defended marjorie taylor greene. she of jewish space lasers fame so the idea that they want to make this an issue, good luck to them brian, what is your reaction to that? because obviously trump has come back to say that he is not antisymmetric, that this is something that he'll point to his daughter, obviously a son-in-law as well. but one example of his love for them, what's your reaction to how this is playing politically? >> you know, listen, i think the republicans have sort of step back and watch the democrats eat each other up with what the democrats call him genocide josh. there wasn't a republican term that came up. those a democratic term, a democrat came up with that term to describe josh shapiro, a jewish, a jewish democratic governor. so we're watching this debate take place. we're seeing them rip each other apart based it's done whether you can be pro israel or anti, or anti palestine, ohio over the situation works out, but it's not the republicans that are sort of pushing that genocide. josh came from the democratic

party, from a democrat operative to try to slander, to try to slow josh, so he would be disqualified of carmel harris. there wasn't a republican think that's where the democratic party is now you can look look at the, look at the colleges, campuses where they were, where it was primarily democratic young activist. that were very much anti-israel. there is saying, we don't care well, i was just saying just you don't care that you were attacked, you don't care that there's still american hostages in israel that are being held against her will. and there are protesting this is coming from within the democratic party to try to play it off. off as a republican thing is just disingenuous and there was a holocaust denier and donald trump's home less than two years. >> i'm sure they're absolutely wasn't that person's in idiot. >> i'll be the first to tell you that, but we're talking about right now trump's an idiot for the person, the person who, the person who's this anti holocaust denier, he's an idiot. i saw it. i asked, why was he and donald trump's home in mar-a-lago, he invites a lot of non non-traditional media folks, people that guy owns podcast or he does upon guess is my understand was comey an f1 test, both holocaust like i said, he goes to a lot of non-traditional media podcasts and have these conversations. i

wouldn't do it, but that's what the campaign has made. the decision. it's clearly worked. remember, we got to the first debate with joe biden and donald trump. joe biden dropped out. he demanded the debate because he's behind these holocaust deniers, all these things, language wasn't working. he needed a hail mary and the hail mary failed. so all these things that are coming up landed a democratic party first, something tells me that this topic is going to continue and won't be resolved. this particular evening. thank you so much, everyone. there's another attack that's coming. walls his way. he is handling of the george floyd riots to get a check how people there, the wednesdays actually saw this and his at the time. i'll talk to st. paul's mayor melvin carter after this if you're 50 year over, you can be taking advantage of everything aarp has to offer right now, join aarp for $12 for one year and you're second membership is free you get instant access to discounts on everyday purchases. >> i care in prescriptions and

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>> now, the sharp critiques are over whether or not walls deployed the minnesota national guard at the appropriate time. the naysayers are saying that he waited too long. >> republic look into minnesota, put out a report, in fact, saying over 1,500 businesses and buildings were burned approximately 500 million in property damage occurred and community morale was deeply affected. my next guest was in the thick of things let me bring in the mayor of st. paul, minnesota, melvin carter. he is a supporter of the governor, tim walz, mayor carter, so good to see you. i want to understand from you, you are the mayor of the capital city of minnesota. you were also at the time of the aftermath and protests around the killing of george floyd. we know how that rock the name patient did you get enough support from the governor during those protests i am the mayor of the capital city of minnesota. >> it's the city that produced a great americans like governor tim walz as suni lee, joe mauer, and even the great laura

coates. so we're excited to, for everything that's going on, i had to i had to jump that in you that was a rough time. >> yeah. >> you know, it's coming out, so that was a rough time for us and that's one of the things about being a leader, someone who's been in the trenches, someone who's done the hard work is that people who haven't get a chance to sit on the sidelines and criticize all day long i was the mayor during those times i got a chance to work with the governor, who i was on the phone with all day long, every day who was very present, who was very active, and who was engaged he mobilized the largest mobilization of our minnesota national guard since world war ii. and i think there were folks who thought that those soldiers could get a call at work and check out a work and kiss their spouses and pack a bag and drive to st. paul and get mobilize all sort of a magical moment that those things take time. i was on the phone with the governor during those days. we asked the

governor to mobilize the national guard right away. he began right away. >> i think all of us wish that could have been agile process that folks could have magically materialized in an incident that those those types of things just take time and we were able to move forward. >> by contrast, donald trump was the president at that point in time and let me tell you, i've said this a lot. >> we hear from the biden-harris administration all the time. we've had large snowfalls and they've called and said, hey, mere just checking in. is there anything that you you need? >> by contrast, by the way, the answer is, nobody in washington dc knows about snow as much as our public works supposed to do here in st. >> paul. but by contrast, through all of that, through the covid pandemic through all of the aftermath, math for the murder of george floyd. >> we never once heard from the trump administration. >> the president never caught we never heard from them in the midst of all that and so if we are using that week in tying that as a snapshot to compare and contrast leadership styles. well, i'll go with governor walz all day that's a fascinating notion that you did not hear especially because

this republican report points to an 18 hour delay between when i think the minneapolis mayor request the national garden when it was actually sent obviously it's called the twin cities. >> you're from st. paul. people want to lump it together. but how do you think people should be evaluating this contrast? >> and laura, i maybe i misspoke. we did hear from the president. we heard from him on the news saying talking about shooting protesters and talking all kinds of nonsense that only escalated tensions. we didn't hear anything from him to say, how can we help, how can we be supportive? how can the federal government be a partner to you guys on the ground? or that's sorry yes, it takes there is a delay, it takes time from tell him, i think 7,000 folks. we need you to show up and the time they are able to show up in materialize and mobilized and be ready to deploy. that takes time. and the truth is, i would have loved for it to take for it to go faster, but to try to lay that on the blame. the governor, i think i think is

poor form. >> it also dishonors the troops in our national guard and dishonors the police officers and law enforcement folks who were on the front line for us that week trying to make sure that they are putting themselves in harm's way. you are uniquely positioned coming from law enforcement family as well and serving as the mayor of st. paul. i'll never forget being on the ground there and watching those troops and tanks actually on the streets in places that are a part of our childhood. it was stunning to say the least, but it's minnesota is now going to be, it's been catapulted into the forefront. a lot of people people might be becoming familiar with the governor, but he has certainly the resume that he has been speaking about and introducing himself and minnesota policy on the forefront of legislation for reproductive rights and voting rights and gun safety. as recently as this past june that you were a part of as well, how do you think those will all play on the national stage given the divisive? nature of each of those issues i think what folks will see as someone who's been very successful, very impactful, very effective

at translating progressive values into operationalize policy and public investments like you said, whether it's reproductive rights or whether it's workers rights, whether it's restoring voting rights to 55 thousand minnesotans who were formerly incarcerated. >> he's been on the front lines while we hear the republicans always talk about how to limit rights i've gotten a chance to see my governor say, how do we expand rights and make sure that every single person in our community gets a chance to enjoy all of those rights. we've gotten a chance to see a governor who has prioritized things like making sure that every child can have a free school lunch, make sure that college is accessible. three colleges accessible to low-income students. and i think a whole lot of people will see themselves and their families in those priorities. but i'll tell you one of the other things that i know. every time a leader steps forward to take credit for something, there's somebody who wants to jump forward and say, you didn't do that by yourself? i, think about governor walz is it's him who jumps forward to say that if he was on this call, he'd want me to remind you that he has a fantastic

lieutenant governor. he has an incredible set of legislative leaders to work with. and a whole bunch of kind of community organizers and campaign organizers and the folks on the ground who helped make that magic happen in minnesota. i'm looking forward to a little bit of that minnesota value that minnesota organizing make its way to washington, dc. >> well, for once people will look at it as opposed to just being quote, unquote minnesota, nice. mayor melvin carter. so nice to see you. thank you for joining me this evening. >> thanks for having me on and happy birthday, papa. later abby, right. >> andy. thank you so much, mayor thank you all for watching. before we go tonight powerful words from the most decorated gymnast in team usa history, simone biles telling girls girls of the world, be who you are and don't look back this iconic moment out. >> this games. oh, my opinion is when you clap back as some people talking about your

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