about the bosley guarantee. >> the situation room with wolf blitzer denied it six points. cnn it's wednesday, august 7, right now on cnn this morning don't ever underestimate teachers teacher a coach, national guardsman. >> now candidate for vice president tim walz introduced himself to america plus but the fact that couple what harris selected him, i think shows really, really poor judgment. donald trump and j.d. vance trying to define walz on their terms, giving us a sneak peek at there the plan of attack. >> and this know what else i love i love being your governor why it didn't go oh, to josh shapiro, who at one point seemed to be the vp favorite plus debby

all right. 6:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at the white house on this wednesday morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us. this morning. the newly minted democratic ticket heading out onto the campaign trail with a jolt of energy i was in the room in philadelphia last night and i have to say the excitement was at a level that has just been quite frankly completely missing from democratic events in recent cycles. basically, since president obama was running for reelection, here's a little bit of what it looked like that was the moment that walz and harris took the stage together, minnesota governor tim walz, and the current vice president

introducing her pick for her own number two to a country that doesn't know him yet. >> to his fellow veterans. he is sergeant major walz to his former high school students. he was mr. wall and to his former high school football players, he was coach and 91 days by another name vice president of the united states. walz talked about his midwestern roots, his military service, his record as governor, but it was one of those attacks against donald trump and running mate j.d. vance the drew roars from the crowd if trump gets a chance to return, he's going to pick up exactly where he left off four years ago. and i got to tell you his running mate shares his dangerous and backward agenda for this country. >> these guys are creepy and

yes, just weird as hell. that's what you see that's what you see so you know what's out there. >> so say it with me we aren't going back going back all right our panel is here to discuss jeff mason, white house correspondent for reuters, mo elleithee, the former communications director for the dnc, and jonah goldberg, cnn political commentator, co-founder of the dispatch. >> good morning to all of you so i have to say the big mo was with the democrats last night in a way that i did not see on the trail with hillary clinton, quite frankly, joe biden similarly struggled to get a crowd going like this. what was your sense of how walz and the presumptive nominee herself harris, rose to this moment or not? >> yeah. i mean, holy smokes. this was i almost didn't recognize my own party right. last night. this was you know, i remember when we were in

milwaukee for the republican convention talking yes. and talking about the energy that an excitement that you felt there. and i remember thinking to myself got like, how do we come back from this? how do we combat it was no way to do it with biden. >> this is how we do it, right? last night, we so not just two, but three national political figures on that stage with an energy and an excitement and a crowd that was fueling it it's a whole new, it's a whole new ballgame. and i think both of the party's nominees last night rose to the occasion and tim walz introduced himself in a way that for those who didn't know him, really connected, i think with a lot of folks. so everyone i know in the party is 11 life today. >> jonah goldberg, ahead this rally, there were a lot of i republicans who don't like donald trump, who were lamenting that this did not go to josh shapiro, the

pennsylvania governor. we're going to show a little bit of what he had to say later on in the show. but i'm curious how you think walz acquitted, himself last night. if you still i feel like there was a shift from oh, they should have picked shapiro. well, okay. this guy has a profile that perhaps will appeal to rural americans in a way that maybe shapiro actually wouldn't what is your sense of how he performed and the way they're trying to present him? >> yes, it's funny. i was recording my podcast yesterday morning, right around the time this was announced and i was telling jonathan rausch that when the atlantic well, i think this is a big mistake like this is the first missteps since the rollout of kamala harris. i think i've changed my mind about it a little bit that's before we get to that just at stipulate. if they lose pennsylvania. this was a terrible and that will be remembered as a terrible pick simply because if the governor can bring you 10,000 votes, well, you know, has a ground game that helps you carry the state. you have to win and you don't carry it. there's going

to be recriminations that said i keep i've been saying for two years that this is a vibes election and every time i try to come up with another mode of analysis, i'm proven wrong, right the right, the trump campaign will go hard at his progressive record and they should, because there's a lot of the stuff there that is worthy of attacking from a conservative point of view. but on the vibes level, he just comes across as a as a midwestern good dude, right? and i think that that is a really good balance for harris. i think it is a good opposition to j.d. vance and i think the most telling line, but i think is more important, isn't a weird thing. and i thought the couch thing was a false note is when he talks about how commonly brings the joy whether you love trump or hate trump. it's always so unbelievably dark and dour and to have an optimistic candidate who's ticket that it's enjoying things. i think sends a really good message electorally, but

particularly for the democrats. >> i mean, that does seem to be jeff, the biggest. it honestly feels like the biggest difference what jonah just hit on kind of the vibes, quote, unquote. i mean, they're different from what hillary was running. i mean, even then, i mean, democrats struggled to get excited about her campaign. and then with biden, there was just a sense of dread you know, by the end of room was just hoping that nothing bad happened. this is so completely different and the contrast with the trump side of it is also stark as john assess i remember in 2016 when trump was getting these big crowds and making such a big deal of it that there were was some counter spinning saying that crowds don't matter. it doesn't matter that he's getting these big groups and that's not necessarily a sign that things aren't going very well on the other side. and then of course he won i think some crowds and energy really do matter. and i think that that what most was getting to there is a sin and

it's also something that we're seeing in terms of money. we're seeing in terms of volunteers coming out. and now you're seeing this voter enthusiasm in the stadiums. >> i remember at the conclusion, about a week, we can have before four election day in 2016, i said something on the air about how covering hillary clinton didn't feel like covering a winning campaign in the final weeks and basically got laughed at by the hillary team because they were so sure that they were going to win. there is, i think very much something to what you can feel, energy xi wise and the camila team, the kamala harris team, actually put this up on truth, social. so that's trump's platform. okay, if we're going to talk about crowd sizes, they're comparing the crowd in that this is the same arena in philly. and they're arguing that is. a little bit hard to see, but they're arguing that the trump crowd is smaller than the harris walz crowd was last night in

philadelphia i will say that if we're going to go by crowd size they hadn't could night. i had a good night and look i think jonah's point is one that can't be said enough. >> i think every election frankly, is a vibes election in some way or another. and i think there are really only two vibes that matter in american politics. one is hope and joy, and the other is fear and anger. at what you saw last night was a party that is betting on the fact that people are tired of fear and anger. and so they're going to give to them the hope and the joy. a good campaign is one where the candidate and the crowd and the voters feed off of one another's energy. and if last night can be sustained, like that's a good place to go into the fall and trump 2016, jonah was not devoid of fun. it just wasn't. whereas now it's considerably different from that.

>> yeah. that's in part because trump doesn't have a lot of new material, right? so it's like a lot of really terrible things that happened in a lot of terrible things have happened in trump's trump's you know, i'm kind bidder and all that kind of stuff. but the people who show up at his rallies are like the guys shouted free bird, and skinner concert. i just want to hear the greatest hits over and over again. i don't know that that attract new people to it, that energy now is kind of kitschy i will also say just say you know, what i'm talking about here in a second, but this is the first democratic ticket since jimmy carter. that doesn't have a lawyer without a lawyer one of the spots, right. i mean, like waltz is the first one who doesn't come from that slice of the meritocracy of the democratic side. the talks like a lawyer, and i think that that's part of the vibes thing, too. he talks about the normal person. and also, can we put up that just the wio of that the video that tim walz i had. where they were talking so kamala harris calls

tim walz, right? tim walz takes the phone call from him. he's wearing a camouflage hat right there, right and he's not this is something he also seems to wearing his normal life. >> they start selling these hats on harris hq website, like right away, they apparently spell out immediately. i mean, jonah, this is something that like walz can do authentically, but not a lot of democrats and national office can these days. >> yeah. >> and i don't think people should get ahead of themselves. >> they're not going to win the white non-college educated working class vote, right? >> they're not going to take that demographic away from trump. but they might limit how much how bad the damage right at this whole election is going be at the margins in a handful of states. if you can just keep trump's loss games to put a ceiling on them. that's and i think that that sort of helps. >> yeah, really interesting. alright, coming up next here on cnn this morning, a very

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nasty and i'll be honest, i was still good but there were a couple of times that you know, it's started getting to me a little bit at the center of the race was bushes stance on the israel hamas war. bush was targeted by the pro-israel group aipac. the group spent almost $9 million criticizing bush and boosting her opponent. aipac, also played in the race that ousted new york congressman jamaal bowman at six weeks ago, bush vowed to use her remaining time in congress to fight back some strings that i attached as much as i love my job but they did was radicalized. manson there's a lot there jonah goldberg, r-mo, actually, i

should probably give this one to you your party. i feel like i see there why she was so polarizing and why this result played out the way it did. >> yeah. look yes her position on israel or gaza drew in a lot of outside attention and aipac gotten involved in understandable to some point, right? like you can end should be pro-palestinian and still be able to say hamas is a terror organization which she had troubled, say right. so i get that part of it. but the thing that she and jamaal bowman had in common besides the attention from apac was they were both also really bad candidates and flawed candidates for other reasons. she was under investigation by the doj and house ethics for improper use of funds and she was really

really striking on some things like infrastructure. >> and so it's, it's one of those things where i think you can definitely see some national lessons here. >> but also the biggest lesson is candidate to actually matter. don't think she was the best for that district. >> hard to say it better than mo i mean, that that matters a lot is the strength of the candidate. but i think it also underscores the importance of money in an election. i mean, the fact that a group like apec was able to come in and have that sort of an impact if millions of dollars just underscores how much that influence and how much impact that can have. yeah. >> yeah. i'm skeptical about the money part. i don't know but the cori bush raise that the boosted her opponent. yeah. no, but in the jamaal bowman thing, i think if they pac had an interview at all moment who stole yeah. >> i think first of all, i think nature's healing what happens a lot in this happens with roe level as well, is that when they have really good years, some really bad candidates are swept in on

waves. >> and then when the tide goes back out, you're left saying, how do we get this to dry this and i think that cori bush was reasons having nothing to do with israel stuff a bad congressman, very radical, very left wing and the democratic party is better off without her alright coming up next here, talk about a hazard. >> next, a golfer in california nearly hit by a crashing plane. surprise, nobody put the word for in this he's this is one this morning. plus america see getting to know kamala harris's newly minted running mates but, then we're going to go get some food, corn dog i'm beds here in turkey, them and their needs not a minnesota turkey special five, things brought to you by karwan. >> karwan, dale drive you happy

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bakersfield the edge hill fire destroying properties and injuring a firefighter in san bernardino county, california. it is now fully contained with firefighters forced to battle the flames in 109 degree temperatures. on tuesday alright. hurt tropical storm debby continues its path across the east coast. here you see damage in parts of sarasota, florida where more than 17 inches of rain fell from saturday morning to tuesday night. and we are not done with it yet. time now for weather, debby is expected to make a second landfall on thursday after it regained strength off the georgia south carolina coast. let's get to our meteorologist, allison chinchar with more on this. allison. good morning. >> and good morning. and you said thursday, i think that's the key point. it's going to sit here for at least another day before it finally makes that second landfall, which means it's got a lot of time to dump even more rainfall on a

lot of these areas that have seen plenty enough. its tropical storm debby still has sustained winds of 45 miles per hour. that is actually up from the overnight because now that its backup over open water, it's able to intensify a little bit more, very early into thursday, we anticipate that to make a second landfall before finally getting picked up through that front and sliding up into the northeast in the short term, still the potential for some extra flooding across portions of the carolinas, not only today, but also tomorrow. we see it shift little bit farther inland as the storm itself begins to move inland as well. but adding more rain as the last thing we need, take a look at this video from hilton head, south carolina. we can see the sheer weight of that rain collapsing the roof here. and very similar stories of all of that rain for much of both of the state's here, both south and north carolina forecast rain accumulation is still looking at widespread totals of at least four inches. some spots could pick up an additional six inches or even more, but it's also not just the southeast look at how much that moisture spreads into the mid-atlantic and the northeast.

so even some of those areas can expect several more inches as well all right. >> allison chinchar for us this morning, allison, thank you very much. >> all right. coming up next here on cnn this morning she is battle tested and ready to go tim walz, kamala harris, his choice for vice president. why did she pass over josh shapiro plus one of arizona's fake 2020 electors takes a plea deal. that's in the roundup

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of you pennsylvania. governor josh shapiro introducing his good friend now vp candidate, tim walz in philly last night, he's the hometown hero. their shapiro had been a top contender for the role, but ultimately, his vetting conversations with harris just didn't go as well as they did between her and tim walz. regardless, they showed a united front at last night's rally when shapiro took the stage, hyping up the crowd and look, this was a performance that underscore why shapiro is going to be someone who was a rising star in the democratic party, why he was considered for this role. it also may tell us something about why he ultimately wasn't chosen. his mannerisms and his delivery reminded us quite a bit of someone else let's just remember because i think there's some folks out there. >> it still have a little bit of brain fog let's remember

what century it is over the last two-and-a-half centuries. it's been ordinary americans taking up the baton from those patriots there's a reason why generations americans fought and died for our democracy. >> kamala harris and tim walz believe in a real freedom. >> where you can marry who you love and joe biden shrine in our founding documents, a few miles from here a clarion call for freedom i mean it is pretty inescapable moe who he is modeling himself after. and i know he has said when people have pointed this out, like, hey, barack obama is one of the best orders that we've seen in politics. certainly of his generation. but the ambition is

right there at centers state is that why kamala harris went with tim walz instead of josh shapiro? >> first, i got to say, i'm such a huge fan of governor shapiro. he is so good out there and you're right. he is a rising star in the party and he's his voice is going to be one that that is hurt for a while to come. but look, i got a hot take on this. okay. go my god, take on what if the decision to overlook josh shapiro actually had nothing to do with josh shapiro and it was just that kamala harris clicked better with tim walz. she had two great choices there at the end. she's got to pick one. what if she just said? i like this folksy guy from the midwest. i like this guy who grew up in rural america. i like his joyful vibe. i think he can speak to people in a way that in an authentic way that's different than any other voice that's out there right now. i like his progressive populist policies and the juxtaposition against

the other guys running mate, what if it was an affirmative choice for walz and not so much any other concerns that people keep voicing about josh shapiro. >> i think that's entirely possible. i'm going even probable. >> it doesn't so first of all, i just think it was weird. it turned out not to be as a false notice. i thought it might be to do this rollout in shapiro's home state if you're not going to pick shapiro, they could have done this rollout. name should get it. they could have done this rollout and wisconsin someplace where there wasn't one of the finalists, wasn't from. so wouldn't seem like in your face, move but also even if it's a second-order, third-order issue, the fact that a lot of people sometimes boosted by the trump campaign, we're now learning. but a lot of people in the democratic party and on the very online left singled out because he's jewish and they did single them out because it's jewish. he

doesn't have any positions on israel. there are different from any other people who's competing with or from kamala harris? but the whole genocide josh thing, the fact that walt's seem seems like the safer pick. ben shapiro tells you something about the problems running through the democratic party. >> well, and, you know, there has been some polling that has shown that there are higher negatives among especially young democratic voters, force shapiro than there were for some of these other choices. and one of the things that stood out to me the most jonah about shapiro's dress last night was when he looked at the camera and talks about his faith and the role that it played. let's watch that moment. >> i lean on my family and i lean on my faith which caused me to serve and i am proud of my faith i'm not here to preach hit job, but i want to tell you what my faith teaches me. >> my faith teaches me that no

one no one is required to complete the task, but neither are we free to refrain from it? that means that means that each of us has a responsibility to get off the sidelines, to get in the game, and to do our part. are you ready to do your part? >> i mean, jeff mason, he clearly saw this as something that he wanted to address directly, and i will say that crowd when he said i'm not going to preach you, the crowd started yelling, preach, breach. >> yeah. >> no. absolutely. wanted to address it. and i think he also wanted to just not become a thing for this party and for vice president harris, i remember just briefly thinking yesterday morning when the news came out that it was waltz wondering, oh, i wonder if shapiro is going to show up to the rally tonight and he he did not only did he, but he he even a big way in a way which makes

you almost wonder in some ways whether, wow, she's going to, she's going to be able to benefit from him even without having him on the ticket he made very clear that he's all in for her, despite being passed over. well, i mean, if being it's very clare, he has presidential ambitions, right and there is no way that you buttress those ambitions if you don't go all in for the ticket one thing that i think was also interesting about this is that we were reporting here at cnn that one of the reasons that conversation didn't go so well between shapiro and harris was that he was asking about the extent of his role as vice president, wanting making clear that he wanted more responsibility. and this was a contrast with what walz said to her. i asked cedric richmond about tim walz personal ambitions, how that came across in their meeting, and he had somewhat startling admission. let's watch one of the things that governor walz said was

that he actually didn't have ambitions to be president himself. >> is that the case? and what role did that play in her decision well i'll tell you what. >> the most important thing was. he wanted someone who would always put the american people first. she wanted someone who understood the role of the vice president of the united states, and she wanted someone she had chemistry with because they're going to have to do a lot of bold things. and they're going to have to be on the same page. and governor walz fit that mold and he expressed that he didn't have ambition to be president so there we go. >> someone who understood the role yeah. >> look, i mean, i take all the most points about how they probably just click better and i think that's probably right, but i also think going. >> back to my vibes thing, which i'm just going to always remember to stick with, is that shapiro comes across. i mean, the comparisons obama are good and at but that's not what you

want and no vice president, i pity the person who had barack obama as a vice president, right out shining them all the time. and like everyone saying oh, i wish he was a top of the ticket that kind of thing. no one looks at walton, says oh, my god, this guy is going to be the leader of the democratic party one day. and that's something you might actually want them to vice president it seems, seems, seems so. >> all right. coming up here on cnn this morning, prisoner who didn't come home, american marc fogel's heartbreaking conversation with his family from inside a russian prison, plus under those friday night lights coach wall motivated his players get ready to hear coach walz a lot. >> why the harrison campaign really loves that moniker the

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reaching a plea deal in the state's 2020 election subversion case. lorraine pellegrino, pleading guilty to a reduced charge of signing false documents in order to get the rest of the counts against her dismissed. she was facing multiple felonies all right. >> let's turn now back to 2024 but we respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves. there's a golden rule. mind your own business minnesota governor tim walz, hitting on one of the elections, most significant issues as his first rally as the democratic vice president candidate, presidential candidate last night, reproductive rights for walz, it's personal. >> this is something that we rarely see from male politicians. he shared on a national stage, his family's

journey with fertility treatment and this gets personal for me and my family when my wife and i decided to have children, we spent years going through infertility treatments and i remember praying every night for a call for good news. the pit in my stomach when the phone rang and the agony when we heard that the treatments hadn't worked she wasn't by chance that when we welcome our daughter into the world, we named our hope all right, joining me now to discuss is democratic congresswoman angie craig of minnesota. >> she had endorsed walz during the vice presidential selection process because she has long worked with the governor in their home-state congresswoman. thank you so much for being here. >> great, great to be with you this morning. >> i want to start with that moment at from governor walz about his family. it was a very personal one. it's something that we have started to see. i know i've spoken with a number of your colleagues, other women in public life who have touched on this but it's not as common

that we hear it from men who obviously are partners to many people who go through this. so it stood out to me that he mentioned it and it is also a contrast with how many republicans talk about ivf. what did you make of how he presented? did that last night and how would you like him to continue? how would you like him to continue addressing going forward well this was what we see all the time in minnesota. >> it was just tim being honest, tim be an open with voters. tim telling his life story and i think that's what makes him so unique as a candidate. for vice president and as a politician as he's, he is who he is and just speaking from the heart, no matter what situation he's in so i wasn't surprising to me at all that he used his own personal connection to ivf to these issues, to reproductive rights to make his point. and i think that's what the country is

about to see. they're about to see a man who is going to bring, you know, every bit of himself with a level of energy that has just been extraordinary to campaign with two times while running for congress congresswoman, you are in a frontline district. one of the districts that is most at risk in this very consequential election for democrats who are trying to retake the house of representatives. we've already seen republicans focus on what they say is the liberal nature of tim walz's governorship in minnesota, how that works in tandem with kamala harris has record in san francisco, is this a challenge? how big of a challenge is this for you in running your own race? >> well, i can say tried and tested and failed in minnesota. tim ran for reelection in 2022. he won my swing seat district

and this was exactly what i was saying and why i endorsed him is because he is battle tested in swing seats, which i think is going to translate really well to battleground states it's across the country. anyone is own red seat in congress multiple times. so i think tim can relate to just about anybody in what makes him unique. is that, you know, i can remember a weekend where we were turkey hunting in the morning, tim and i and then i think there was a gay rights event and then in the same weekend, tim can go anywhere, he could talk to anybody. he is somebody who's gonna make you feel excited about the future and this is exactly what i believe we needed a thrust of hope in the election and we've got it incident congresswoman, one thing that republicans are already at focusing in on is his decision to call in the national guard in the wake of

the protests, what had been peaceful protests in the wake of george floyd's death that turned violent and there is an argument mean his critics say he waited too long. >> what do you say to those critics well, you know, again, republicans tried that and his reelection and they failed. >> so that's what has happened in minnesota. tim scott, just an extraordinary record of working on behalf of all minnesotans you know, he truly believes exactly what he says. he's going to tell you what he thinks and it wouldn't matter who we ran. they're going to dredge up something and criticize it. that's what republicans did minnesota been trying and failing to do. timms entire time in office. so i have no doubt that tim is going to be able to go anywhere in this country. he's going to be able to talk about the issues with them and you know, republicans are going to do what they do and it's all for the point of us trying to make

sure that donald trump is never in the white house again. and i think, you know, democrats are excited around this country and there's nothing that's going to be able to tamp that down all right. >> congresswoman angie craig for us this morning. congresswoman, very grateful for your time. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you alright. >> let's turn now to this this game is not over this battle is not over so let's. hear. it one more time together. player is. full. hearts. >> go kamala harris is camp reportedly hoping her pick of tim walz will remind people of that guy. >> we should put him back on the screen. eric taylor, he was the fictional high school football coach from the tv show friday night lights, the harris campaign i have some questions

about the hair i honestly in terms of this comparison, i have to say, however, the harris campaign really leaning into the coach title at the rally last night, watch yes. >> they are just getting a no coach walz. this story. coach walz taught social studies and to his former high school football players, he was coach. it's like a matchup between the varsity team and the jv squad under those friday night lights coach walz some democrats telling cnn they think the moniker can help them this fall with the election home stretch overlapping with football season, allies expect those teacher coach attributes to be on full display, particularly across the south, who doesn't want someone radiating positivity from the sidelines? >> one quipped in a text message, i will say i was texting with kayla who wrote

the story about, i mean, maybe i'm letting my crush on coach taylor show a little too much because i'm like a little trouble about a little trouble with this comparison but it is interesting let me that this is what they seem to want to lean into the most about walz i think you're going to see them lean into a lot about him because i think there's a lot there, but what i like, look, i'm calling him coach, right. >> not for any political reasons. i just think he's can connect with people in a way, right? people connect with a coach much more than they do with a governor or a congressman is right? >> and so i just think he comes across and it's authentic if what we saw last night, we keep seeing throughout this campaign it's authentic key is a very relatable guy. he is a down to earth guy. he is maybe not coach taylor but he is not goofy right relatable, more

likely cheers exactly. >> so you know, i love it jeff mason, i mean, this is i will say, a relatively rare biography we were talking in the break. mo was pointing out this is the first time in decades that we have seen a ticket that doesn't have a bush or clinton or a biden on the top of the ticket? >> this is also situation where he's not a lawyer. >> the last time there was a vice presidential candidate wasn't a lawyer was back to the 19th i have to go back to jimmy carter before there wasn't a lawyer on the ticket. someone who who was an anwar who was on one of these presidential tickets. this was a guy who was enlisted in the military as opposed to being an officer i mean, typically we often see you know, military officers in public life. it's much less common to cece. he's the highest ranking enlisted person to be. and this is a picture of him. he talked about being able to go to school because he used the gi bill. he

does have a different profile from a lot of the people that we are you used to covering here in washington. >> i think the the piece about not having two lawyers on the ticket as actually a really important detail. people like to see someone on their on the ticket who they can have a drink with. i mean, how how well did that work for george w bush when he was running? they can, people could imagine sitting down and having a chat in the backyard and a drink or whatever it is. and i think that same ideas certainly applies to him. he's a coach, she's a, he's a guy you can imagine chat with your kids, chatting with your wife, chat with your husband. and it's not it's not something that seemed it was unrealistic or seems in an authentic, he's got hot this recipes yes. i'll pull it out. the kyle chandler, the guy who plays the coach from friday night lights, is only two years younger than tim walz that some hollywood help. but look political scientists say that vice presidential picks don't

matter, which was kind of a funny point for donald trump to be making recently. but the one example where people, the one point plays, the one exception that political scientists debate about was the sarah palin pick by john mccain. and some say didn't matter. some say it did. >> people forget? mckinnon got a big bounce from palin. it wasn't till later that she turned into a problem the extent that she was a problem for mccain, it wasn't that people didn't want to vote for a ticket with her on it. it was that they didn't they thought it said something about mccain's judgment in picking her, right? and i think that's the thing to look at here. i don't think tim waltz is going to carry by himself pennsylvania one of the battleground states but it's the signaling from harris that she is leaning into a different different vibe, a different messaging about more momala than career lawyer thing, having to prosecutors on the ticket would feel like overkill with shapiro, i think is the thinking and it's this appeal towards normie voters that i

think on the vibes level, wasn't the republicans are going to have a lot of ammo though, about his actual progressive record on the policy stuff. and if that does matter, it could be it could hurt him. >> i'll see vibes. the fives election yes, we'll find out. all right. i want to leave you with these kinds of vibes. watch delicate authentic charismatic sensitive but what even are these vibes you're watching an ad rollout for dolce and gabbana is new perfume for dogs. it is called pfeffer. >> i think according to the company, it is a tender and embracing fragrance crafted for a playful beauty routine it has woody, creamy undertones. >> you can get a 3.4 ounce bottle for your, for babies, for just $108. if you're not, it includes a dolce and gabbana dog collar and tag